Turbo Overkill - It's Not Quite Doom Eternal (demo review)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Turbo Overkill has some real potential to stand above the other Boomer Shooters of the 2020s. Let's talk about it!
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Seeing games like this, Shadow Warrior 3 and Ultrakill really make me realise that Doom Eternal is doing to the FPS genre exactly what Doom 1 did on its release - completely revolutionise the genre in ways we didn’t think possible. We’re at that transitional phase where games with similar mechanics are almost being labelled as “doom eternal clones”, just like the “doom clone” phenomenon in the 90’s, but before we know it this style of resource management and specific weapon usage is gonna be an established formula for most fps games (again, just like Doom 1), I bet you anything 😎
Ultrakill demo was published half a year before Eternal
@@cyber_combat_dev Well damn, I’m surprised. Idk what it is then, but there seems to have just been a sudden switch in the genre in recent years where devs decided to completely shake up the fps formula, with it all being rolled into a perfect package with Doom Eternal’s release. Either way, it definitely looks like games are starting to follow in its gameplay formula now 🤘
@@Flump-Master The game which imo really reserructed the genre was doom 2016, the push forward combat is truly revolutionary. Eternal added few more dimensions to it, sure, but I think 2016 deserves the credit.
@@cyber_combat_dev Yeah I can get behind that tbh
I wish the influence was stronger though. The public only knows of shadow warrior and maybe serious Sam. Right? I don't know much about society so I keep my guard up
Thank you for becoming poggers again, mayo.
Thank you for putting out some serious cringe into the world.
:(
Mayo has always been poggers fam, no cap.
"creative solutions are far more interesting than free-styling in a vacuum" nailed it mayo!
Damn, talk about perfect timing. I've read your quote at the exact same time he said it in the video.
Literally just personal taste.
This is definitely more based ;)
Doom Eternal's brilliance is showing on how it is affecting the FPS ganre as a whole, seeing new games having weapon combos is incredibly satisfying
I won't be playing much of these doom games.
I prefer less jumping and changing weapons.
But elden ring tho ahh thats something that can piss me off anyday
It's cool now but I'm already feeling the effects of over saturation.
Totally agree. I'm glad that DE is having this much influence this quickly. It is giving a very good refresh to the genre as a whole, especially since it's been so driven towards Tactical and Halo shooters as a whole the last decade.
Unfortunately game designers are missing the most important lesson of doom eternal, which is player engagement through challenging AI, not really "make a fast fps with weapon combos"
@@placeadrien5566 I agree, that is disappointing
Saw Oyff play this one and it looks sick. Btw Mayo, have any more thoughts on prodeus since its release?
Chances are he'll cover it once it's out of early access.
@@keever8305 thats possible yeah
I hope it comes to console I'd love to support something like this because it's my dream to be doing it in the future. And it looks really fun.
"I sincerely believe that limitless freedom is not conducive to creativity"
This is not really true though. The easiest example of this is Dwarf Fortress. That game allows you to do anything you want. Sure, its another genre, but the amount of freedom that games gives and what a lot of people do just to exploit that freedom to the maximum amount possible is amazing.
Doom eternal tried to make the problem solving about giving multiple options and you having to decide which ones are the most optimal, if what you usually do doesn't seem to work nicely for your situation then you should try another thing, Turbo Overkill seems more of a sandbox approach of "Here are all the tools for you, try to discover all the possible ways to use them yourself", not for solving problems, but to let people who wants to try stuff do it because they can.
The thing about Dwarf Fortress though is that it's not in a vacuum. You're given the freedom to do anything you want, but you still have to meet the needs of your clan as it grows and expands - which means that the game gives you problems that you have to use your freedom to solve or else everyone dies. There's still consequences to your actions regardless of how free you are to use them.
The needs in DF are easily met, its been like 10 years since your fort would fall because you didn't had socks.
And I'm talking about the bigger projects, like those people who use necromancy to maximize the amount of fat and muscle the farm animals have, when you can exceed what you normally need by doing nothing in particular.
Or when people started chaining mermaids so they would have babies that would fall into their deaths so they could sell the bones to merchants when having 2 or 3 legendary cookers meant that you could buy the whole wagon with a few cooked foods.
Nobody needed to do any of those stuff but still they did because the game hints that doing it is a possibility.
And the game is filled with things like this, from using forbidden beast to any other weird stuff just because they want to do it.
The problem isn't in giving the player the freedom to use a wide variety of weapons in situations of their choosing, it's making a wide variety of weapons that are so strong that any one of them can carry the player, or designing them so that there are weapons that are clearly, objectively better than others. That's freedom, but the fact that everyone will either use a single weapon to carry them or that the whole player base will have the same exact loadout is certainly not creative.
I've never played Dwarf Fortress, but the way you're describing it, it seems like it incentivizes playing with your options until you find the optimal approach to different situations. Am I right?
I would word it better. Having the freedom options is pointless if each of those options are meaningless. Many open word and even singleplayer games fuck this up by making every option work all the time or overpowered which in turn makes every option feel hollow and pointless. There is no real tangible effects on the game or player reward. Fallout New Vegas was one of the few open world games that actually had massive meaningful consequences in the game on player options and that's why its soo revered. The "here's bunch tools have fun" approach only really works imo for pure sandbox games. I have yet to see a singleplayer fps with a crafted campaign that has broken combat balancing were nothing matters fun to play.
Finally DOOM clones are back, I hope the game improves because I really like it
Me too,and I hope Doom clones are getting more attention instead of just milsim and BR games. :)
"what about speedrunners ?"
Isn't the art of speedrun to get good and exploit the game outside the box to beat it fast ? And pandering to speedrun would make it boring ?
Yep! And isn't the point that people loved the game first and then wanted to speed run it?
You didn't need to say doom eternal references incoming, it's an under the mayo video. 😁
8:15 I think what youre referring to with the level design is a terrible use of lighting. It looks nice as an art piece, but not as a video game. Light, including reflections, should be used to manage player's focus, and only very lightly as decoration in combat sections.
The one big problem I have is that on the second highest difficulty it starts pushing you into playing well. But at the same time it gets borderline frustrating to get oneshot offscreen so often. And on the highest it is full on frustrating. So if the damage stays like that I dont even want to have smart ai on top of that or it gets super frustrating.
Next video: Minesweeper it’s not quite Doom Eternal
The comparisons to Doom Eternal are necessary because we're definitely going into a new era of Doom clones which is pretty awesome.
I really liked the ammo limitation in doom eternal. it made me realize a game balanced around infinite ammo is better than a game with ammo limitation but too much available ammo (not talking about ultrakill, which I haven't played yet. just in general). aside from a strict but purposeful ammo limitation which is probably the best case scenario for a shooters.
about Ultrakill
if anything, i feel waaay more pressured and stressed out to switch between weapons in Ultrakill than any other fps tbh
sure the ammo is infinite but the game severely punishes your score if you spam weapons mindlessly, since the style meter is always in the face right on your screen all the time and scoring high score is literally the selling point in ultrakill.
example; you can still use your pistols base attack even after you use the charge attack and while it is om cooldown but that's just really hampers your score gains since "weapon freshness" gets into the "stale" state and hampers your scores.
if anything, utrakill is better to be approached as a stylish fighting/action game than a straight up fps, and especially the main bosses really makes it even more feel like a fighting game than a fps
i had this issue with Cultic. i love it.
but the game gives you waaay too much ammo.
like you can use environments against the enemies, Throw/sh^^t lanterns, set traps with unlit dynamite, Use/move explosive barrels, kick/sh^^t enemy's dynamites , a solid melee system, bait enemy attacks int friendly fire but the game gives you so much ammo that all the other things you dont even end up trying after a while. cuz u just have too much ammo. you can literally go through the whole game only with the handgun once u upgrade its accuracy u wont even need to rely on rifles lmao
48 seconds in I had to pause your video to listen to the killer instinct theme.
It’s still in early access, but I recommend Viscerafest. It has similar appeal as Dusk but with more Build Engine influence, especially from Blood.
Fun fact this game started off as a DOOM 2 mod
great review Mayo, you raise really good points and I agree that ammo shop is pointless. what I ask you is, what do you think about cost of upgrades? I felt they were too expensive for the ammount of coins they give you at (seemingly?) random times. do they drop off overkill damage? or what?
on an unrelated note, there's a demo out there of yet another retro FPS called INCISION, this one gives me some DUSK vibes, but guns also have alternate fires. if you check it out I'd love to hear your thoughts, or read them at least if you don't make a video on it. thanks!
Definitely a demo I'll check out.
What is the native FOV on this? This gameplay looks like I'm watching a Hmmmp video...
Imagine if they had a double barrel shotgun where you remove the stock and just shove the back of the gun into a box of shotgun shells, hold fire and it starts to spin line a Gatling barrel from the shotgun shell box and starts shooting rapid fire shells.
I love him acknowledging his status as a Doom Eternal fan (which pisses off people for no discernable reason) to the point that there has to be a "disclaimer".
I love it so much.
Maybe add Greenlights to signify where to go?
i think this game is more fun then Ultrakill. and Ultrakill is one of the most fun games iv'e played
under the mayo describes everything on a scale from "polar opposite to doom eternal" to "doom eternal"
take a shot every time he references doom eternal
great video btw
Honestly I'm just happy to see Doom Eternal having such an impact
Thinking is fun (c) Under The Mayo, 2022
Not even ONE MINUTE IN to the video and I already hear Mick Gordon. That's pretty poggers, Mayo
I love your videos man. The only channel I watch at max resolution. Hope that conveys how enjoyable your content is
You are based
These reviews are setting up a good list of games for me to play when I grow old enough for my parents to let me play them!
In summary, Turbo Overkill is a fast-paced first-person shooter that is decent but has its flaws. Well, it's still in the demo. Yeah, I know that saying "it's still in a demo" is not an argument but at least we know that there is a possibility that in time it will improve. Ok, that doesn't sound like a good argument either. Let's at least hope that it will improve...ok?
Hey Mayo,
If you think that Crative solutions are more fun than freestyling in a vacuum you should probably try out Divinity Original Sin II. It's an openworld RPG with DnD influences and round based combat. I know that sounds like a ton of red flags and when someone described the game to me i was very skeptical because i really don't enjoy openworld games, and round based RPGs. But it's actually REALLY GOOOD. The player is constantly held accountable for his actions and once you make a choice you can't go back
Creativity born from constraint is one of the most important things. Games with too much freedom just a result in identification of a dominant strategy and ultimately a game that doesn't feel fun. As you've said, it's not my job to have fun, it's the game's job to make sure I have fun.
It really seems like a lot of your arguments in regards to gameplay is: "The game allows me to play it in a way that I find boring, therefore the game is bad." If you dislike a certain playstyle so much then just dont use it. Why take off points for having more options?
Where do you want the pickles
Hey, did you know the guy who made that 3d scary mod for og doom actually made this game
We will soon be talking about “Doom Eternal-likes” the same way we talk about “Souls-likes” because it is simply so influential.
While i enjoy a lot when games allow me to free style shit. I gotta agree that creativity comes from restriction, there was a related saying that went like "the worst thing you can do to an artist is to let them do everything" or something like that.
I really like hearing your constructive criticism, it makes me feel smarter as a gamer to have your point of view in the back of my mind while playing lol. Also, holding devs accountable for how fun the game could be and addressing concerns and critiques to them, rather than just using your audience to shit all over a game is really refreshing. It’s an aspect of your videos that gets me excited when I see a new upload 👍
I'm on board with almost everything you said, except for "we need big arenas". I heavily disagree. I mean, of course, two or three big arenas per level would be cool, but don't change the game into just a string of arenas with platforming in between. This is what Shadow Warrior 3 did and it's very underwhelming. Turbo Overkill feels really great as a natural progression of smaller and bigger fights, platforming, a little bit of exploration and backtracking to gain access to new locations. The last of level of the demo is just fucking amazing, very satisfying to navigate. Can't wait for the full game.
With that said, here's my list of fixes:
1. Get rid of the second dash - to make the fights more balanced. Double dash, especially upgraded, is waaay too overpowered. It works in Doom Eternal, but here it's just a get out of jail free card. Especially when you consider the fact, that pressing crouch in mid-air kinda works like a dash anyway.
2. Add very mobile enemies (high jumping, flying, dashing, maybe even wallrunning).
3. Add enemies with long-range attacks.
4. Make enemies stand out from the environment. The art style is very busy and sometimes everything just blends together, easy to miss some guy with a shotgun standing in the corner.
5. Heavily nerf the ground stomp and the aimbot pistol mode (both are basically free multikills and require little to no skill).
I totally agree. I don't think it needs to be an arena game. But a couple big wave fights per level would add some spice.
its so crazy that the doom eternal chainsaw was so awesome that they made it into a real thing
Mayo: *Sees any rapid fire dual wield weapon* “Is this an Uzi?”
Mayo keep an eye on a game called Selaco, it's made in a modified GzDoom engine, it genuinely looks amazing. I've talked to the developers on the Steam Forums and Ai seems like a big focus for them since it's inspired by F.E.A.R.
Not really a suggestion but maybe something to keep an eye on. The Ghostrunner Hel DLC came out today, with an all new campaign playing a supposedly more combat-focused character. I haven't played it myself yet, but with the dev team being more experienced with the game than before and there very likely being no cybervoid, it might be worth checking out idk
Nevermind its not out yet, my b
standalone?
@@digivagrant yeah. New levels, music, enemies, all that. Its called project hel
We ARE listening. Lot's of great comments. Note that this demo was super rushed, and there's definitely a lot of polish and fine-tuning and all of that to still be done.
i'd love this type of games to be more popular, i want my crosshairs to work, i want rocket launchers to be more than a boring trade killer, i want actual music instead of the same "epic" trumpets that play on every single modern game, im not saying this things are necessarily bad; look at bioshock infinite for example, tho that game made every modernized part feel natural and actually good, i didn't know how putting 2 rockets instead of a single one made a gun so much fun to use, and the crosshairs are an example of a perfect middle ground: wanna aim? then aim, don't wanna aim? then don't, simple as that, i know i sound like a greasy white monster addict but i do like some modern videogames, tho not much that i own... only ones i could say are bf4 and 1, clownfield 2042 (yes, THAT clownfield that costs less than a dollar and ironically it's better than cod and bf) and a lotta far cry's. I just hope devs make games around being fun instead of realistic-ish, because if the game has red dot sights on an era where they didn't exist why make the game realistic, because people aren't even playing because of that; if people want immersion they're gonna play something immersive, not a game with drum mag lugers with 30 different types of gadgets in it.
also, nice video, glad to see apogee's at it again!
Under The Mayo, patron saint of boomer shooters. Now that he's done with Sifu, devs pray for their demo so that he may review.
I'm really looking forward to this. The demo had me hooked. I enjoyed this waaaaay more than Shadow Warrior 3. I found that game way too easy.
I usually don't like the constant suggestion for resource management in games like this, but for Turbo Overkill i think it makes sense; from what i can see, Trigger Happy is not promoting the game as a "style shooter" like Ultrakill, where unlimited ammo make sense.
Most of the points you listed are fair, except for the comparisons with Ultrakill, which are still either incorrect or/and incomplete.
I appreciate the point you made with the invisible wall on the first level; easter eggs and secrets are my favourite thing to look for in games like this, and i too would've been disappointed to see that.
Creativity comes from limitations. Or more accurately, creativity comes from trying to solve the same problem with tighter limitations.
Creativity also comes from not having a limit/having very loose limits. Or would you like to tell me that people who built massive structures in sandbox games or create insane combos in DMC aren't creative?
I think games like this, along with others, is a good way to get a feel for what DOOM ETERNAL may be like, but not go too balls deep into what DOOM ETERNAL's mechanics are like.
Thankfully, the video is about the demo and the full version is subject to many and major changes before it comes out.
I have to play this as soon as I finish playing other games. I love Quake, and mayo makes interesting points. And this just looks just like what the doctor ordered.
That was poggers no cap
This looks great, definite purchase when it drops on PS. But once again, I'm reminded what a masterpiece of game design Doom Eternal is.
Mayo, I think you might enjoy Stack Gun Heroes. It has a very interesting set of mobility mechanics and fast paced gameplay with pros and cons to every weapon upgrade. Really interesting if for nothing else than proof of concept.
For some reason I want to see Mayo critique a Zelda game. Like twilight princess or something. I’ve always felt the combat in those traditional Zelda games are lacking and could be improved so much.
I’ve been playing a lot of dusk lately so
this reminds me of dusk a lot
love that doom eternal month ! always hype for your videos
Love how the SB ammo is little Mayo jars.
The Legend of ZazMan continues.
no shit it's not like doom eternal, it's not trying to be
Hard disagree on the arena design. Not every shooter needs that. This isn't Painkiller.
I didn't mean that it's gotta be full of arenas. But a couple sweaty multi wave rooms per level would be nice.
When hard-core players want hard-core things lol. I love it. Was watching Oyff and this was next on recommended lol
So basically this is Doom Eternal, ultra kill and Serious Sam rolled up into one burrito...
too much ammo oh no
anyway
Anyone else get a strong Smart Pistol from Titanfall vibe from that lock-on alt fire? This game looks like it's got a lot of potential, who's the dev?
Trigger happy interactive
Hmmm... Played the demo twice and never got lost.
I'd be interested in seeing your thoughts on Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. It's quite different from your usual stuff, but I think you'd enjoy it all the same.
XD man really did say refereces in the thumbnail.
Hey, I feel offended, I played Infinite exactly like it was in those trailers, on hard. Nobody will see this but Halo players, we can do it.
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.
Tempered by the fires of Hell, his iron will remained steadfast through the passage that preys upon the weak. For he alone was the Hell Walker, the Unchained Predator, who sought retribution in all quarters, dark and light, fire and ice, in the beginning and the end, and he hunted the slaves of Doom with barbarous cruelty; for he passed through the divide as none but demon had before.
And in his conquest against the blackened souls of the doomed, his prowess was shown. In his crusade, the seraphim bestowed upon him terrible power and speed, and with his might he crushed the obsidian pillars of the Blood Temples. He set forth without pity upon the beasts of the nine circles. Unbreakable, incorruptible, unyielding, the Doom Slayer sought to end the dominion of the dark realm.
he age of his reckoning was uncounted. The scribes carved his name deep in the tablets of Hell across eons, and each battle etched terror in the hearts of the demons. They knew he would come, as he always had, as he always will, to feast on the blood of the wicked. For he alone could draw strength from his fallen foes, and ever his power grew, swift and unrelenting.
None could stand before the horde but the Doom Slayer. Despair spread before him like a plague, striking fear into the shadow-dwellers, driving them to deeper and darker pits. But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan, of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer, and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains. The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed.
And in his terrible rancor between worlds and through time, the Hell Walker found the wretch who shall not be named, but in his heresy was loyal to his evil cause. The wretch adorned the Doom Slayer in a mighty armor, wrought in the forges of Hell, impenetrable and unyielding. With sword and shield of adamantine strength, the Doom Slayer set to banishing all that were left unbroken by his savagery to the void. Yet as the mighty Titan fell and dread engulfed the armies of Doom, the demon priests of the Blood Temples laid a trap to capture this scourge of Hell. Insatiable, even by the vanquishing of the Great One, the Hell Walker sought prey in the tombs of the Blood Keep. And blinded by his fervor, the lure drew him in. The priests brought down the temple upon the Doom Slayer, and in his defeat entombed him in the cursed sarcophagus. The mark of the Doom Slayer was burned upon his crypt, a warning to all of Hell that the terror within must never be freed. There he lies still, and ever more, in silent suffering.
I start to like it. Looking forward to relase date!
I thought switching guns to avoid cooldown was a bug, but its .. a feature? Lol
love that streets of rage 4 theme on background.:))
The game is great to play, but the shotgun stun + SSG combo in its current state absolutely decimates the larger enemies, and kinda makes everything cheeseable. I've managed to beat the entire demo on the new murder machine difficulty in less than 5 minutes. Granted, it's only 3 levels, but the fact I can skip over all but 2 fights in the entire game, and the 2 fights you need to go through take less than a minute each, it almost makes the fights not worth doing
Other than that, the game feels amazing to play and it has a LOT of potential
Demo was enough to get me to buy it. Full game is great and 100% gives you bigger fights with more targets...my primary complaint is that its easy to get lost in some areas on the first playthrough. Its not a fun game when you're not engaged in combat...but then again I don't like platforming that much.
That sounded like the terminator theme
Great video as always! I hear Batman NES music…great choice!
Honestly, everything this guy praises (and whines) about have me interested in the game. I don't care if there's near infinite ammo. I don't care if the AI is somewhat dumb and bumbling. I don't care about nitpicking weapon cooldown exploits. The only thing I might agree on based on the video is the level design allowing one to get lost and turned around at times.
I loved DOOM Eternal until the Marauder showed up (yeah, I'm one of those guys. Eat me.). The frenetic gameplay was great until he appeared, completely slowing everything down to a crawl. What I'm looking for in these clones is the frenetic gameplay without the enemies that are going to mess that up. I may go back to Eternal one day, but only if I can find a "no marauder" mod. Call me any name you want, I really don't care.
If you're going to complain that a game basically isn't your holy grail ballwashing title that everyone makes Eternal out to be, then just go play that.
Can we play doom?
We have doom at home
*Doom at home*
i've been seeing teasers for this and i have to say i'm hyped
I want to play this game so badly!! It looks so perfect!!
Can you do a tips or a guide on yang in sifu I am stuck on human I have spared all the bosses but I can't beat yang
I totally agree on all your points. I had a good time with the demo but the biggest problem was readability of enemies in the environment. I think it has a good foundation to improve on.
Mayo have you Ever played F.E.A.R? if not you should AI, weapons, and gameplay still holds up!
Love FEAR. I'll talk about it some day
Have you played Rage 2? You will love the combat.
After playing the EA release, I can solidly say I'm very much not a fan of the way they balanced the game. It's not clear how much damage you'll take and it far too often feels like you get cheap shot instakilled out of no where. This mainly becomes a problem on the last level where you don't even get space to dodge attacks. There's a lot of promise but man they have a ton of qol changes to make before it truly becomes a good game.
Aside from adjusting damage and projectile speed modifiers, what would you suggest? And what difficulty are you running?
@@underthemayo Honestly, changing difficulty modes doesn't really do a whole lot. You can get melted instantly on basically any of the difficulties. The main thing I would change is to make it more obvious that you're taking damage. It's pretty easy to not notice since you won't be staring at your health bar in combat. The other big problem is a lot of the arenas don't really give you much room to move so it makes the issue worse. This is mainly a bigger problem later on in the game. I found the train level straight up unfun for many reasons, that being one of them.
Glad to see more movement shooter games on the market these days, but I gotta say there is a trend I'm seeing that I don't like. Maybe its just me, but I think that some of the movement games that I'm seeing come out are overdoing it a bit. By that I mean they are perhaps a little TOO fast. Part of why I like movement shooters is the amount of controll you have, but when you make movement too fast you start to lose that control a bit. Things like the dash being way bigger than it has to be, the slide being Uncontrolably fast, or base movment being ridiculously high. You look at Doom eternal and all the controlls are tight and precise, but you look at games like ultrakill and it feels like your playing first person pinball. Maybe it's just a preference thing, but i'd like to see some movement games that bring it back down a notch to a more controllable level. I think Ghost runner did this pretty well. Nice tight movement that felt fast without being unwieldy or disorienting.
10:48 I don’t like you even mentioning speedrunners as a point to be made. No game developer should consider speedrunners and their wants in the game’s design. It’s a hobby and style of play completely disconnected from the focus of whatever experience the game is trying to give you
I honestly don't get Mayo's point here. I haven't seen speedrunners asking to be able to skip arenas in games at all, they just find a way to deal with those quickly (glitchless) or glitch through those if they can.
Also, there are literally games built around speedrunning. Additionally, some simple QoLs like quick respawn or skip cutscene would help speedrunners while keeping the core experience intact so it'd be nice if game devs can keep those in mind.
Referece
Ey mayo did you ever play prodeus?
I did. I have a video on it from 2020.
Mayo comparing turbo overkill to doom eternal NICE
In case the devs are watching, regardless of what mayo said the game is fun, on my wishlist already
Yeah, it is fun. I said I'm excited for the full version.
@@underthemayo now that i got your attention please check "incision" demo, my favorite demo from the steam festival.
Won't provide you any expectations so you start fresh
@@eduardosolorzano5020 I heard about that one! I wanna try it out.
Take a look on enter the gungeon it's unreal
where do you play the demo
have you tried the other side of the first person shooter the more slower type of games i recommend insurgency sandstorm as its less tactical and let you move freely without the need to stick with your team
From what I gather that's not his style of games. He enjoys older style, 2D, fighting games a lot and fast paced doom style games. Some others here and there but he's extremely picky lol.
@@BeatMyMeatSkeetSkeet i know that that but he also try any game that people recommend even of its a style of games he doesn't enjoy and also he does play a lot of RE so maybe a slower passed game wouldn't be wired for him except maybe the fact that its online
If we're going for "slower" shooters, how about GTFO?
I want this and i want it now
Does everything have to be doom eternal jesus christ is nothing allowed to be its own thing anymore?
The dev agreed and made the changes sowwy! :)
Yes
It also reminds me of ghostrunner