EXPLORING ENGLAND'S CANALS & preparing to join the River Avon
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- [099] A good week's cruising but one thing after another is breaking on the boat.
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We were not disappointed watching you Wesley, for me you are an inspiration, level headed accepting of what life offers you and what you take, I hope 2024 continues with you making us laugh out loud with your funnies, enjoy Xmas with your family, look forward to the new arrival next year, keep that chin up, keep driving forward and enjoy more time with your wonderful brother god bless x
Thanks for the lovely comment!
🎃 If you want an easier way to remove pumpkin from its rind, cut it in half and bake it on a medium low heat until it is soft. Make sure to keep about an inch of water in your roasting pan. It's so easy to remove the rind. I've been doing this for decades. Great for pumpkin soup, smoothies or to make pumpkin butter. If I'm making pumpkin pie I strain it for several hours to drain off the juice.
Oooooh thanks for the tip!
Though the farting was hilarious at the end Joe, Lol, fell off my chair. Keep up your channel I watch them all, you're a great couple that put up with the trials and tribulations of boating
😂😂, thank you!
Going out on the Avon it will be interesting to see in a coming film if you make it under the very low bridge in Stratford if you plan to join the canal from there.
We’re on the Avon a bit further south for the time being - will have to search for that bridge for the future though!
I just had your vlog playing whilst i was making breakfast (a great way to start the day BTW) and i almost choked on my toast when i thought i heard Danni say... "I just put my pants in the sun, i don't feel like they have had much sun the last couple of days." The somerset accent is easily misheard sometimes and even when i replayed it to check it still sounds like that to me! 😂
😂😂😂 When editing the video that's what I thought Danni said as wel!!
Nice one Joe Teething probs dude you will get um sorted you have done a top job on that build lad I have loved watching it come along Dani done a belting job painting she got a good eye for things Cheers staysafe 🙂🦢🦆✌️
Thank you very much appreciate it!
Don't forget to get the spurlash for the anchor.
What a lovely vlog today showing how beautiful the UK countryside is 😊 So nice to see you cruising the cut!
Thanks so much! 😊
The painting looks ace cannot wait until next week 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Awesome vlog and cruise. Watched it twice. Love it. Whilst things will go wrong it’s be boring if they didn’t lol. What a huge achievement. Huge congratulations. 🎉
Definitely!! 😂 Thank you!
My favourite journeys are on a river! Winter time might be a bit more tidal and windy - and of course there are less moorings than on canals - but the scenery is amazing. Having watched you both from the beginning and seem your capabiliities I know that by the time you reach the Avon you will be fine. You've got the necessary 'bitts and never be afraid to ask for advice those you meet on route - and enjoy!
Yes something special about the rivers! Thank you!
Great video. It’s considered good luck / prosperity if a black cat comes to visit your house. Old wives tale but would be a very nice sentiment for your boat (and you both as well).
Ahh we'd only heard of the crossing your path one. That's good to hear!
Nice to see you two out and about on the canals and rivers, the biggest learning curve you will have , hence the old saying, you learn something new every day, good luck with your adventures, 😁👍
Thank you! It's been great so far
B.O.A.T = Break Out Another Thousand
and another and another...😂
I love Danni's ' I'm concentrating but I'm smiling face.' The cruising was lovely and the cat was beautiful! Did Rosemary survive?
😂 - John the rosemary still alive!!
Pumpkin soup is lush😊😊😊
Very seasonal 😂🙂
Bless you both. Now the fun starts. You're in my stomping ground of old. Sydney Gardens. Pulteney Arms, Henrietta park, Bath as a whole. Lovely. Your endeavours have now paid off and you're on your way. Enjoy. Bless. Love.
My Mum (Joe's) grew up & worked up Bath, well Batheaston but worked on Milsom St in Scarpino's Salon, probably in the 70's. It's a beautiful city.
Love the bird cowl. You can clean the glass in your fires door with kitchen paper towel and water when it's cool
Thank you! Yes cleaned it just after I filmed, I thought it looked a bit grubby 😂
Relax -- rosemary is very hardy!
John is still alive for now 😂
What a fantastic vlog you have both done so much to your boat well done and thankyou for sharing. By the way is that song on the back ground by Rufus Wainright take care be safe 🙏 ❤
Thank you! Ohh can hear the resemblance, will have to have a look back at the edit!
Hey, Joe - I wouldn't give up you day job for a singing career just yet🤣
😂😂
My Favourite Narrowboat couple you both worked so hard enjoy your boat and cruising thankyoi for Sharing your journey love ❤ from Australia Blue Mountains 🇦🇺 🌻🌻🌈🌻
Thanks so much!
Tis great to see you doing what Lady Penny was built to do!! As I recall, the most problematic part of my tiny house build was trying to keep the water pumps happy and running well. Whenever we sought advice from suppliers...the answer was always the same..' oh we have never had that happen before'...!!!???? Yeah right. Ended up using relays to power the pumps, activated by external pressure switch, cos the built in pressure microswitch wasn't up to the job.....etc etc....
Thanks for the tips! Will have a look into that!
Aren’t you supposed to take out the ashes before lightning a new fire haha 😂
We do occasionally but as we don't have fire bricks (they used up too much space) - the ash acts as a kind of insulation against the steel burner
@@DanniandJoe 👍understand
One of your best video's, love the cruising part guys.
Thank you! So nice to be cruising for a bit, July onwards next year will be the start of our 'proper' journey!
You know that old saying ?
BOAT = Break Out Another Thousand
100% 😫
Aw bless you both what a lovely cruse on your first full move. Hope you get everything sorted take care
Thank you we had a blast!
Omg you both are amazing, I have watched you both as you have put life back into your boat! I admire you both for what you have achieved.... One day this will be me.... Maybe not what you have achieved but never the less I want to retire on to a narrowboat with in the next 6 years! Wow you both are just insperitional!!! You know what I mean 😏😏😏
Thank you so much! We bit the bullet and never looked back, seeing more and more people giving it a try. Nothing to lose!
Very nice volg hopefully your dad enjoy his birthday on board,
👍👍👍👍💤💤💤💤
We had a lovely day thank you!
I have just found your channel and it's great 👍😃 thank you for the effort you put into the videos. I used to work full time on narrow boats and really miss it, interesting work and a lovely community
Thank you for sharing your adventures with us!
It's our pleasure!
At least you have a nice cycle down the Bristol/Bath cycle path from Keynsham! I cycled through there a lot when I lived in Bristol. Also I know you'll know this but be very careful setting an anchor from the stern of the boat. It's ok in very slow-moving water but in faster rivers you should always drop the anchor to the bow so the boat turns into the flow rather than having the water hitting the stern. Also it should be central so the water flows around the boat.
At 24:08 there are some leaves in the engine bay water runoff and mine is exactly the same and it runs into the engine room if the runoff is blocked.
I'll stop lecturing now. 😉
We've cycled from Bath up to Warmley once before it was lovely (we stopped at Bath Ales brewery!). That makes sense on faster flowing rivers! Yes those pesky leaves, we sweep them every few days but a bad time of year for them at the minute
@@DanniandJoe It's a great way to get between Bris and Bath, especially after an ale! ☺️ Yeah, the leaves are a nightmare this time of year. I let mine build up and ended up with water in the bilges! 🫤
fantastic, you two are a huge breath of fresh air, keep it up
That's lovely to hear, thank you very much!
Excellent video! The drone shots were amazing with your boat sliding peacefully in the trees. Nice use of film speed. I’ve been to BoA many times to go to place where Moulton bicycles are made and cycled the towpath to the Angelfish cafe.
Another interesting vlog good to see you both seem better good luck on the journey you both tc all the best from the oldies👍😉👋
Thanks guys we had a blast and are feeling much better!
So great to see you guys cruising, and the boat looks awesome, 👌
Thank you!
Great video 👍
Do remember to wear life preservers once on the river Avon.
Great to see you're on the move and such a beautiful cat.
Just a point, it's usually safer to have your anchor on the bow as if you have it on the stern, there’s a chance of wrapping the line around the propeller.
I say this through experience.
Oh that sounds like a pain! Thank you.
Spot on never seen a ship with an anchor on the stern ✋
@@dianebowker1531 the problem is (with our limited understanding at least) - when coming downstream with the anchor on the bow, once deployed the current could cause the stern to spin round and get you lodged into the river bed (unless you’re on the broads or somewhere wider than 50ft+)
Hi there, the chandlery guy was right about the rope attachment to your cleat. I’m just a bit concerned about your anchor shackles. You have the right ones. Now please take out the pins, put a little bit of grease on the thread. Replace and tighten as hard as you can with a spanner. Then you should “mouse” the shackles, just with a cable tie will do. Through the hole in the end of the pin and back through the shackle.
If you do these things, the shackles can’t come undone in the water, but the grease means you can undo them when you want to.
Good luck on the river, hope you don’t actually need the anchor!
Thank you that's a good call, we'll go and grease them asap!
Had a thought with your alternator, is the engine vibration slackening the locknut? Try a self-locking nut. Love the bird on your chimney, by the way.
Yes quite possibly it could be! Will give that a try thank you. Ahh yes it's from Smokey Joe's (not Joe's company unfortunately 😂)
Hi Danni and Joe, beautiful cruise.
Thank you! we really enjoyed it
Hi Danni, Joe. What a lovely cruise. Some amazing scenery. The Black Cat was very cute. Did he/she make it on board (as cats are so nosy). Hoping you have now sorted out your battery issues. Danni, well done on your navigation. Looking forward to seeing you both on the Avon next week. Great Vlog as always. Thank you. Have a great week. Take care.
Thank you! The cat had a quick tour of the boat and made it's way out through the bow 😂
Really like your build, but carnt wait till you start boating, as your background music just works well, 👍👍😎
Thank you!
Have you got an accumulator on your cold water system? I'm guessing not because the water is pulsating.
Yes accumulator fitted, have tried various PSI's in it and not solving the problem (system was working fine for 3/4 months but believe pump is dead.
@@DanniandJoe is the blader still charged? If the pump runs and is pulsating it suggests the bladder on the accumulator is under inflated or failed. There should be a Schreiber valve you can check the pressure like a car tyre. Might be worth also checking the flow rate the pump is actually managing. Other question is, are you getting air as well as water? In which case there is a poor joint on the suction side of the pump can draw air in while not leaking water out. It's worth just checking each part stage by stage. Another question is do you have a filter between the tank and the pump to stop debris in the tank mucking the pump up?
Great to see you out on the cut and soon to be the river. Did you remember to wire the pins in the anchor shackles so they can unscrew ?
Cheers! & no we didn't but will get to it asap!
Acronym: BOAT- Bust Out Another Thousand. It Never Ends, just like Twofootitis - If Only I had Two More Feet. LoL🎃
A almost truble free trip. It's nice isn't it?
😂 Yes!
Loved the vlog you have earned this trip bless you have a great week 😊
Thank you!
Really enjoyed the vlog. Lovely drone views. Thank you.
Really great video guys, super drone work, thanks
Thank you!
Love watching you both fantastic videos
Thank you!
Love the channel, i never subscribe but i have with you guys. Looking forward to the journey.
Ahh thank you so much!
Great video would love to see you cruise more of the system.
Hi Danni and Joe, it's great to see you are finally getting a chance to cruise! At the same time, it looks like you are wading through novice narrowboater problems via the school of hard knocks (the best teacher). By the way, the new paint looks very nice in the video.
Joe, that looks like about an 80 amp alternator. Note that most alternators are rated at a 5,000 rpm shaft speed and infinite input power available at the alternator shaft. It looks like you have about a 2.5 to 1 speed step up going from the engine to the alternator. Alternators do not have current limiting or over heat protection, the design is based around charging a single car battery. With the number of leisure batteries you have, that alternator will kill itself trying to charge that many discharged batteries, especially at low engine speeds. I don't know if this feature is available or not with your setup but, I would start the engine with the leisure batteries disconnected, run the engine at 2,000 rpm, then connect the leisure batteries. The slower the engine runs, the more torque is required to turn the alternator. Also, when the batteries are discharged, running the engine slow can easily cause over heating of the windings and rectifiers in the alternator. I don't know if it is available or not but, you need some device that will limit alternator output current to about 40 amps. Another reason for the belt squealing is the alternator pulley is so small, you don't get that much belt-to-pulley contact area.
Lead-acid batteries don't like to be discharged. If the charge level is below 90%, the plates in the battery deteriorate much faster. Also, the 50% discharge rule assumes the batteries will be immediately recharged once reaching the 50% charge level (or SOC; State Of Charge).
Cooler temperatures cause the battery voltage to rise for a fixed SOC. So, if the battery monitoring circuit doesn't take temperature into account, there will an exponential SOC error as temperatures depart from room temperature (of 20 to 25 degrees Celsius). When charging the batteries, the case temperature needs to be monitored. If it rises to 32C, you need to stop and let it cool off before resuming the charge. If the battery get above this temperature, the life plummets and there is a good chance of the battery exploding.
Hi Bill, thanks so much for taking your time to type that out. Will go through your comment and diagnose what the issue is. Thanks again!
@@DanniandJoe I found an article that is quite informative about your particular problem. Unfortunately, I discovered the hard way that RUclips won't let a person that is commenting, place a link in their text. You can post it but, you later find it, the posting vanishes. Anyway, 15 minutes lost.
There are a large number of people experiencing the same problem you are having when they switch their leisure batteries over to Lithium from Lead-Acid. Do a Google search using the term "Alternator current limiting", which directly addresses the problem you are seeing. Most narrowboat installation seem to have 3 to 4 lead-acid leisure batteries. I notice your system has more than that so, when deeply discharged, you are far exceeding the capability of your alternator.
Car alternators were originally designed to charge a single flooded lead-acid battery (the type with caps that need water added every year). Car alternators are set to output a fixed voltage. In the past (I have been working with car alternators since 1974, lead-acid batteries since 1968), the output voltage tolerance was quite wide: 13.7 to 15.0 volts. Sealed lead-acid batteries (or AGM batteries) can't tolerate more than 14.2 volts In your climate for a long term charge; it boils the water out of them. You will note that your solar charger will exceed this voltage by 0.1 to 0.2 volt until the charge is finished, then will drop the charge voltage down to 13.3 to 13.7 volts (all voltages specified at room temperature). During a cruise, the alternator will try to keep the output at its output voltage setting.
I found several companies that address the alternator shortcomings; Balmar and Victron to name a few. Balmar specializes in marine alternators and has types that monitors/controls alternator temperature, output, current, and output voltage.
with something so important, possibly thicker pullys on the alternator and engine? i can imagine when the altenator is under load, that tiny thin belt wont last long, have you got a dedicated video for your electrics? its a nice overkill sytem id like to learn more about, most are tiny and/or rely on hookups.
We've been meaning to tidy up all the cables etc as was installed in a bit of a rush to get us by. Will try and film that & go over the system in more detail. Think you could be right on the pulley & belt though.
@@DanniandJoe Thanks buddy, look forward to it.
Fab to see you on your travels at last! Enjoy the Avon, it is absolutely lovely!
Thank you!
Hi just thought I might say that you should check the cable size to your water pump if the cable is under size it will burn the pump out or the pressure switch.If you need help with cable sizing go to 12volt planet voltage drop calculator.We have overflowed the peepot twice now so we got one twice the size but we still forget and have nearly done it again several times it is amazing how much you do
We double/triple checked the voltage drop before fitting and was working for 3/4 months but believe the two weeks in the dock with lack of voltage in the batteries is probably what's killed it. We'll try a new pump and check the cable size once more to be safe
Hi Guys, you will be passing us very soon (if you haven't already) we are in a big grey widebeam just after Swineford lock, moor up and give us a knock, we fitted ours out from a shell and have victron setup so can have a chat if you like? regarding your monitor, don't go by the percentage too much, keep an eye on your amps, once the amps going in is between 1 & 9 percent of your total battery bank capacity for about 30 mins they can be classed as charged. The percentage does depend on condition of batteries. Better discussed over a beer 🙂
We came through Swineford around 5pm yesterday that's typical! Was just about getting dark and we haven't wired the tunnel light back up yet 😂😂 We're in Keynsham for the next 9 months now so will have try to meet for a beer!
@@DanniandJoe I think I heard you go by, hungover so didn’t get up to look. Yeah anytime 👍🏻
Nice one guys!!!
Keep em coming 👍👍👍
Never trust what your battery monitor says as far as percentage. The only correct reading is when fully charged.
Just never let them go below 12.2v ,which is 50percent and you will be fine.
I suspect by now you will be running on full power again and all your pressure issues will have gone away.
Thank you. Yes mainly focusing on the V & amps, still having a few issues but will get to the bottom of it.
Have you heard of a mud weight? Search for a 56lb weight, I got mine from a local market. If you have your anchor on the stern, have the mud weight on the bow, just on a length of rope. It will help to keep the boat stable should you need it.
Will take a look! Cheers
i have same water pump in my caravan i had to buy a Pre-Pressurized Accumulator Tank and sorted the problems out.
also love watching your videos :)
We've got an accumulator & system was working fine for a few months but definitely pump related unfortunately,
Hi Danny Joe,so nice to see you both out and about cruising,by the way you never use the anchor on the rear I have seen narrowboats flooded because as the tide comes up it will pull the stern down and the water will come over the stern please believe me on this you have plenty of room to turn round if you end up facing the wrong way ,when you want to pull the anchor up you go ahead slowly and pull the rope chain in if it stuck keep going forward the power of the engine will free the anchor after all it’s for emergency only yes ,you have done a good job painting the boat well done both of you so if you get,a mooring at Bristol how far is it to work for jo ,have you a cold Danny you sound a bit horse 🐴 lol love the drone shots excellent the music is good to see you got your pumpkins ready for Halloween 👻 I have never tried pumpkin what’s it like don’t say pumpkin lol 😊,got to say jo you doing a great job on the tiller well great blog so till next time take care keep yourself safe,John 😂👌🇬🇧😋🫣🌹👀🤩🎃🎃👻👻👍🤫
put the steel rope in to the bolt shacle!!!!!....because with the vibrations you open the bolt and goodbye again!!!
will do!
New sub here. Love your videos, good luck to both :) 😀
Ahh thank you! welcome to the channel!
The anchor on the stern and not the bow, that’s a new one on me, better think that one again. Have you ever watched a yacht at anchor or on a mooring buoy on a river. They swing from the bow so that the boat is always pointing against the flow of the tide and not with the tide, it’s why the bow is higher out of the water than the stern, that way you don’t flood your boat when the tide turns. Just saying.
Great video! How is the paint holding up guys? It looks very pretty!
Yes not too bad, a little soft though and it's not as hard wearing as we'd like - may be re-doing parts in the summer but it's been a good learning curve.
@@DanniandJoe I am a Dutch schipper and we use a brand called Epifanes in the Netherlands, the multi marine primer is especially good to fix an old layer or to start as a new base. We use this on inland River vessels. I don't know if it's available in England but it's worth a try if it doesn't work out with this paint.
Hey we are currently doing up a narrow boat in Trowbridge so it’s so nice to see what’s around us on the water ways I have a quick question what did you get your mooring ropes ?
Ahh cool! We got the lines from eBay - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283335095053
Your altimeter kinda looked like it was just slightly out of line with the pulley. That might be the reason why you’re having problems.
Will take a look at that, quite possible! cheers
If you watch your vlog you should be able to see it the second time your engine is being filmed
brill vid should come to nottingham :) via river
Yes we will, one day!
@@DanniandJoe good good
I cannot recall from when you fitted that green alternator .. is it a super high power output? Or does the victron DC:DC charger do current limiting? The alternator won't be current limited I think. Instead it relies on you not putting a load on it that exceeds the current rating of the alternator. Whether or not this has anything to do with your belt coming loose I don't know.
Can you share the victron DC:DC charger model number?
We fitted the alternator near the beginning but it’s had minimal run time in the grand scheme of things. Think it’s a 70a unit, the Victron DC:DC is the Orion Tr Smart 30
@@DanniandJoe ok the smart tr 12:12 30 looks to be fixed at 35A maximum input current which would be fine if the alternator is 70A.
During the video you said you were seeing 650W I think. That would be much more than 35 x 14 = 490W. Is it possible that was combined alternator and solar?
@@robiniddon7582 Yes so the solar was adding to that wattage. When the alternator is working it’s outputting around 20a or so, even with the new belt it’s now intermittent with no obvious slipping. I’ll get in the engine bay and just check the vibration isn’t undoing the bolt. I’ll ge the voltmeter on the alternator itself too
Standard leisure batteries are bloody useless really. The Rolls type lead acid are good but expensive. Really a couple of big lithiums are the best best.
Hey both! I always love your music choices for the videos - bit of a shameless plug here, my childhood bestmate is a musician and think his music will compliment your videos as much as the others do - check him out at “Ollie West and the Wildflowers” keep on doing you guys and look forward to next weeks video!
P.S when I had Covid two weeks ago, I watched all of your videos back to back, love the progress - I feel all inspired!
Sorry to be crude, was it cold lol 😆 or are there piercings 😅 😜 xx
A bit of both!