Why The Term “Sony Check” Has Become Popular In Japan
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This video takes a look at the resurgence of the term "Sony Check" in Japan and what this term means and why it's used.
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Ah yes, censoring games, that are rated for adults. Makes perfect sense. My adult mind might get corrupted by seeing drawings or animations of nudity or violence. Whatever shall I do?
That game wasn't rated for adults dumb fuck adult games are not allowed on console
@@jsmith3946 so why are. Extremely violent games allowed on consoles. After all by your own words it isnt rated for adults. Even though the biggest demographic of console gaming is done by teens and adults
Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy isn't being censored.
so not all game's are
@@Yusei255 "Look this game isn't censored! So all good!"
Because there are games that aren't censored, that doesn't mean that there is no problem.
@Orwellian Future Is Now That's a western game though, everything noted here in this video has been from Japan.
Just wow, imagine treating your mature audience like they are children. What's the point in even having a mature rating anymore seeing how it's meaningless?
It's because of a horde of savage idiots thinking they have the "moral high ground" trying to be all "Pure" [AKA Fragile snowflakes]
I pretty much always assume it's people too damn lazy to parent their own children. They expect companies and governments to do their job for them so they don't have to make critical decisions like not getting the wrong content for their stupid ass children.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I was a kid when the ESRB was made and my parents actually followed the new categories quite well. Now I see little kids complain that their parents aren't getting them a game because of the rating, which some of those parents cave in to their kids to prevent a scene. But I also see the situations you are talking about, I had a customer once ask me why I had to do an age check for a game he was getting, and had to explain that M-rated games and R-rated films have an age restriction to prevent underaged purchases, he said that was stupid.
@@trisertricordoh2127 "Parents" like those don't deserve to parent those kids.
@@Gracetoyou7 Sad but true.
Why would Sony censor M rated games? They're M Rated for a reason.
TLOU2 however...it seems there's western bias.
@@Joshua_N-A of course they make exceptions for their first party studios a bunch of hypocrites if you ask me
@@Joshua_N-A oh
abso-fucking-lutely, its bullshit.
Because the M rating is akin to the R rating, not NC17. (Kids can get into an R rated movie if accompanied by their parents. Whereas not so NC17) If the AO (the gaming equivalent of NC17) rating was in, use then you'd see a lot more games with that rating nowadays instead of M.
Games rated M tend to feature content aimed at an Older Teen crowd (15 to17, not 17+)
@@RaifSeverence well, then that would be the parents fault foe letting their child play Grandiose Automatic Thievery the 5th, not the creators fault, and why don't more AO games exist?
-We can't let adults to see material for adult!
...wait?
The people running Sony, much like most corporate executives and politicians, think that certain forms of media are harmful and that adults aren't capable of making sound decisions without their personal input.
That ridiculous
Censoring 18+ games is literally the dumbest thing Sony has done in recent memory.
Games are for children! Here, have a copy of The last of us 2.
@@linusgustafsson2629 get that shit out of my face
Even Japan is getting annoyed by their anti-weeb measures
@@devastatheseeker9967 explain?
@@devastatheseeker9967 Then explain the sex scene of TLOU2.
It's still rather recent, and the only one that has gotten through in terms of big games.
@Devasta The Seeker
and that should matter? Nobody's forcing anyone to play these games. People like what they like and if you don't like it personally then just look for somewhere else to go to instead of calling people names over something you have a personal distaste for.
@@hatoru17 I wish RUclips didn't delete comments randomly so I could see who you replied to
@@kreedi7758 so for some reason my comment got deleted straight away so I'll try to use less graphic words for youtube.
I won't act like tlou2's scene was well written but it's about context. It's pretty obvious games like nekopara are just softcore ero novels and thst labyrinth omega game had female milk dispensers in the title of the uncensored game and clearly had that in mind from the start building the game around it to appeal to the degenerates.
I can't believe we live in a world where Nintendo is less stricter than Sony. Oh, what time we live in. Gotta raise them birth rates somehow, I guess.
We live in a world where Night Trap is available on a Nintendo system. a game that caused the creation of the ESRB and had the head of Nintendo of America swear under oath it would never be on a Nintendo system. Thats how big a 180 they've pulled in recent years...
@@fanusobscurus correction: he was the Vice President and one of their best lawyers at the time.
Less strict.
I don’t know why the Japanese are so worried about the birth rate dropping. Isn’t that a good thing? That means over population isn’t a threat to their a society. So strange.
I mean Censoring doesn't solve anything at long term.
Man, those “rays of light” looked absolutely God awful! It just looks like they painted white streaks over everything.
They pretty much did
It's also even more suggestive than the uncensored version because the covered up bits are left up to the viewers imagination.
Anime Fans / Weebs: Yup. "God Rays," streaks of darkness, or THICC sentient steam... either one is unbearable.
@@SelecaoOfMidas You fucking knowing, nice to see the fine art and artist's vision uncensored is best.
Reminds me of 4Kids when they censored Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
The more Japanese companies move to less censorious competitors, the better for games.
Hell yeah!!!...wait, movie?😮
@@PerryMcCall18 I was thinking about the fact, most Sony exclusives are interactive movies and you just move the actor from one scene to another to watch play out.
@@MaverickhunterXZero ooohhh okay! XD Makes me think of that one game involving a knight and a dragon!
I don't why even M+ rates games are ever censored, if they think it's so terrible for your 20+ year old then rate A(even though the A rating doesn't mean shit)
I mean, they're already moving to Steam & Nintendo.
Sony: Cracks down on sexual content in games. Mainly when it involves attractive characters, and is sexual only a mild way like panties.
Also Sony: Has the most awkward sex scene between 2 of the ugliest characters in one of their biggest releases in the year. Something no one wanted to see.
Because seeing manbearpig getting shagges is brave and bold, but senran Kagura is evil
Well said! This to me was the clearest, most blatant case of hypocrisy possible. It showed that Sony was not interested in following their own guidelines when the content was in line with their "new, improved" values...
Which game?
@@no64256 The Last Of Us 2
@@brandonmagallanes4582 thought that was multiplatform lol
Adults not being able to see adult content? What’s wrong with you Sony?!
Nintendo at least has common sense for this type of stuff
The desire to control what you consume, that's what they want. Don't buy their "good intenshuns".
Nintendo also has the excuse that their platform is explicitly stated to be for kids. The adults are a bonus but kids are their priority. Sony does not have that excuse.
Decades ago Nintendo was pretty strict but of recent Nintendo has come ot their senses.
@@the8thark Yeah it was the other way around back then
@@SonofKalas22 Plus, Nintendo doesn't interfere when it comes to localizing third-party games. They leave that stuff to the devs/publishers of the title, while they just allow the game to be released for the Switch.
Then why do we even have a game rating system to begin with if T through M rated games need to be censored despite meeting the age rating criteria?
Because pretty much everyone forgets that not everything is for kids. Not all cartoons are kid friendly and frankly not all games are kid friendly. Would you let a kid watch a cartoon movie by the name of Heavy Metal? Or let a kid play Manhunt? Just because 75% of the media is tailored to kids doesn't mean the other 25% has to either, which is sad that thanks to some people that 25% is shrinking. "Would somebody please think of the children!"
@@trisertricordoh2127 Correct it's the reason all the crap with COPPA happened because morons forgot that not all animated shows/movies, and video-games are not kid-friendly.
Because people don’t actually read the age rating and acts like a surprised pikachu afterwards.
@@trisertricordoh2127 reminds of this guy who worked at Gamestop, a mom decided to buy God of War for her 7 year old kid,
Employee "mam this game is for 17+"
Mom "oh but that's just a suggestion my child is mature."
Employee "there's full nudity"
Mom "oh my god why would they make the for kids??"
@@waldrichlee305 That is so wrong it is funny.
“Kojima got in a heated dispute about breast touching” “This occurred during the Sony certification process.”
Me: . . . Oh, the heated dispute.
Probably explains why he separated himself from sony after death stranding.
@@sagejay9816 um
Did the scene make it??
XD
Kojima?
Breast touching?
Should I be worried??
@@Ramsey276one That depends on how worried you were about the previous groping scenes in his games with both males and females lol
@@Shiratto context is VITAL
XD
The entire world is high school, no one ever grows up... they just get older. The hall monitors run your life, the teachers pets get you band... it's all so tiresome.
I've been saying this all my life. People are immature as little kids and then they just get taller and grumpier.
@@flameshana9 taller and grumpier... sigh, yep.
Huh. Never thought of school being a microcosm of larger society. That's interesting.
@@flameshana9 Damnit, I didn't get taller. I only got grumpier...
Sony when Abby getting assrammed in TLOU2 full throttle, nuts-to-butt vs. Sony when 1 nanometer skin of a female character is shown in anime-style games:
I'm so done with people censoring anime-style games and turning around and allowing that same stuff in other releases. Even on Twitch you see it, where anime games get banned while others are allowed to be shown still. If you're going to do it, at least be consistent.
RIP Senran Kagura.
Now dead thanks to Sony and Tencent.
I haven't followed the situation. How did Senran Kagura die exactly?
Censorship.
@@haydenhyde9395 the creator LEFT the studio because of it.
@@Joshua_N-A why did he leave he could have made it pc exclusive
@@denisn8336 if I had to take a guess Marvelous most likely had a contract of some sort with Sony for Senran 7even. That and exclusive PC development isn’t something you regularly see with Japanese devs. Regardless I’ll miss Senran, definitely one of my favorite fan-service series.
Sony's not a real Japanese company anymore, this is just one of many reasons the PlayStation brand has fallen out of favor in Japan.
Didnt sony move their HQ to California or something recently
@@freakyslimedude5266 Yes, among many other things.
@@chemergency ah god damn, they are becoming too woke
@@freakyslimedude5266 their playstation division did, Sony itself still has it's HQ in Japan last I checked
@@Cailan_Mors ah ok, thanks for the info
Good thing we're seeing more PC attention from these Japanese devs. If you combo that with a Switch, the PS5 doesn't have much to offer outside a couple of exclusives.
Exclusives that are more style over substance in recent memory.
Most of those exclusives suck anyway. Majority of the good ones come from the previous generations so no real loss avoiding the ps5.
As more and more Yakuza games come to PC, there’s less and less reason to own a console.
@@johnbuscher then again, the recent prices of pc parts are telling me otherwise
@@megaten666 Yeah, this happens a lot when crypto miners see they can make money, it continues for a while until their meme currency value crashes, again. Add to the mix low stock because less production thanks to the pandemic.
I'm just glad I built my pc just before this shit.
Censorship sucks. As long as Sony keep doing those, you will have lots of content.
And thanks to Sony, Senran Kagura 7ven is dead. FOREVER
not every game that's coming out has been censored
When a company force a game creator to leave the studio, something's wrong, really wrong.
@@Yusei255 Senran Kagura is dead
Pretty sure Seran Kagura is on PC. With mods. I modded the hell out of Valkyrie Drive.
@@Yusei255 correct, like The Last of Us part 2.
Just let the developers release the game how they wish and rate it accordingly, how hard is that Sony?
You are speaking my language man! Kudos!🤝
That's normal thinking if you didn't have an agenda to push.
corporate objects lack a sense of mind
It’s so hard for them that they forget what country they came from. Sony is having a identity crisis
It doesn't matter is Sony eases up on their "quality check" for their Censorstation. There is no coming back from 'Dead To Me' and that is exactly what they have been since moving their HQ to California and forcing JP devs to kowtow to the ways of soy.
US person here: California shouldn't be a US state.
@@ExtremeWreck california should just separate and become its own country so the rest of us don't have to deal with its bullshit.
@@329link Certainly. Or we can just let Japan take over the US as a whole.
329Link This isn’t a California thing. California is not telling Sony to Censor their Anime-style games. This could happen if Sony moved to like say Texas, Florida, Arizona, etc. They just only decided on California since it is 1 of the closest U.S. states to Japan and is just a center of where most of the U.S. videogame business is taken place. Sony is just being Sony no matter where they are located.
@@edtifa *O RLY?*
I'm not surprised, that many game developers would switch to Nintendo and Microsoft because of that Sony Check.
Sony is now like 80's Nintendo and Nintendo is really chill.
@UClJOb-9Sl10W5UwRsTRGFhA that's a different matter, and I still blame them to not have the originality to not use nintendo IPs. How hard it is to make a game without leeching of Nintendo characters?
We really do live in a weird time. Not even 5 years ago Nintendo were the censor happy borderline anti-weebs and Sony were the cool older brother who'd let you stay up and watch TV past 9pm when Mum and Dad weren't home.
Gal Gun was supposed to be on Xbox one, but it was canceled from Microsoft. Wonder why...🤔 twinfinite.net/2020/12/gal-gun-returns-canceled-xbox-one/
Microsoft failed a litmus test with Gal Gun several weeks ago. I wouldn't give them much of a glance anymore either.
@Jebidiah Bushwell then stop making fan games. how hard is that lol.
7:05 Ah yes, got to make sure those 17 year olds aren’t exposed 18 year olds’ content
Comical how age based taboos work.
They function on the Sims mentality.
A 5 year old stays unchanged until turning 18. That's the Sims mentality.
1 year to be worth a damn
Funny thing is, 18 rated games are still censored. Until Dawn, Evil within 2 and the recent Assassin s Creed games.
@Charles Gnarley well. This system is not working either.
@Charles Gnarley I see what you mean. Some people can't handle adult content at like 19 while others are into it at 16. It has to do with more of the person. However, having an age rating system that includes a rating for 17+ and another for restricted to 18+ only is kind of dumb. It's even more dumb when games that are rated 18+ still get censored. Here in the United States, the M rating just means 17+. And the games are always uncensored.
Like Evil Within 2 is rated 17+ and is uncensored in the United States. However, in Japan it's 18+ and its censored. So it has to do with more on censorship rather than age. Age ratings are just a recommendation age. That way parents know what they buy for thier kids. If a game is rated 17+ it's clearly for adults. So an 18+ rating is pointless. Anyone 17 or over that can't handle it can simply not play it and let those who do wanna play it get to experience it uncensored.
and yet the sex scenes in the shit of us part 2 are completely fine
@UC_PTpkoH3_2e7s7gXihZWqg "muh art. Look how deep my game is. Start liking abby. Whamen should look like abby, and if you no like, you hate whamen"
Even though, it's probably the most disgusting sex scene I've ever seen in my life.
It makes the sex scenes in ride to hell look classy. (yes I went there.)
@@denkerbosu3551 Sadly his comment got removed.
Sony was okay with THOSE boob physics it seems >_>
what was the removed comment
i did not see it in time
Because of Sony's censorship policies the past few years, I'm starting to believe PS4 will be my last generation.
I'm switching to PC until some changes are made. I've been a PS fan since I was 6 years old (I'm 29 now).
When Nintendo is censoring less than you, you're doing something wrong. Oh, how times have changed.
I used to be on the Playstation train myself. After I got a good PC I never looked back
JezzmanGAMES Yeah, and I agree and the PS2 was part of my childhood.( Even thought it's bothersome to keep resetting the console and clean the disc until it freaking works.).
Sony just needs to release their exclusive games like Microsoft is doing on PC. I kinda dont want to waste money getting the ps5 just for Ratchet and Clank. When i have a near 600 dollar PC myself and my PS4 is just a dust collector with no hard drive in it lol
Way ahead of you. Ps2 was my last generation with them and had been exclusively retro and PC since the Wii was abandoned.
I got off the PS train when they announced they were charging for online gaming over an internet connection you already paid for. The PS3 was my last console.
Maybe a Switch, but they need to fix the joy con drift and give us the ability to switch accounts between the original and lite versions seamlessly.
Censorship is wrong. It's as simple as that.
And cowardly.
Depends on the censorship. I’d say 85% is bad but like, there are some exceptions.
Like say the guns in yugioh. Ignoring how hacky that dub is in general; the show was made for kids and pointing an actual gun at someone in media for kids is not gonna fly in the west. Also Fe fates, as much as I hate the dubbing on that game I’m not gonna lie and say cutting out Corrin drugging Soliel’s drink without her knowledge wasn’t a good call. Taking out the petting however, debatable honestly.
And yes I know I’m not giving great examples but like I said, most censorship is dumb. I’m just trying to get across that the situation does have SOME nuance to it.
@@dragoncatoverload All censorship is bad period. Companies/governments telling you what you are allowed to watch is just idiotic.
PS: Only because something looks like it's for kids, doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
Yugioh is for kids....One Piece is not. Japan tends to lump kids media into one big pile and you have to guess what age bracket it’s best for. Like you’re telling me a show about a children’s card game, is not for kids (ignoring season zero here). If they didn’t censor it none of its target audience would get to see it cause chances are the parents would stop them from watching it.
Yes, censoring adult content in most cases (Ex: it’s on public televisions where kids might see it but that’s a different thing cause the uncensored version is available elsewhere) is dumb because adults are mature enough to decide what media they want to consume. Kids media it gets a little tricker.
And honestly cultures be different, did you know they had to take out the Quran in Jojo because it’s super offensive to Muslims to have to displayed in media? Should they not be allowed to enjoy the rest of the show because of that tiny detail that has no bearing on the rest of the plot. I think that’s a topic for discussion.
@@dragoncatoverload I respect your opinion but censorship is never the solution to a problem. It massively cripples creative vision in every way. Also, who said Yu-Gi-Oh is for kids? People only assume that because they think that a card game is inherently childish.
Imagine being in a slugging match with Microsoft over consoles, and your response to Microsoft buying bethesda is to ignore a large group of international customers that like Japanese games, and also ignoring japan all together
It just works; for microsoft that is.
And they are surprised why Nintendo Switch are covering the weekly top 10 sales on famitsu lol
If you check the japanese weekly sales chart you see only Switch in the top 10 XD
Also for who want support the free creativity, support the politician yamada taro, also the artist ken akamatsu that want protect the japanese creativity!
Yamada taro. Ken akamatsu, I will remember then
Absofuckin lootley. Keep it up Sony and you're money is gone. Don't forget what made you Sony. Make Sony for Japanese Again! That's what makes Sony, Sony!!!!
10?
From top 30, 29 are Switch games/Switch versions.
Multiple weeks in a row.
@@NGMK you checking too the Famitsu's sales chart very well! °w°
Switch games being in the top 10 of Media Create/Famitsu has nothing to do with this at all.
Sony is the guy who says they used to play videogames.
Any developer that goes back to Soyny just because they TEMPORARILY ease up their restrictions deserves to go broke when said restrictions inevitably come back.
Once I get to game creation with a programmer, since not sure if I can program.... unless I can mange it. Will make games for gamers and fun times. Also No Micro transaction, only DLC (new content DLC), getting ahead of myself.
Watching where its fine to sell the games, once I am there.
It is like returning with your ex who left you a broken nose just because they promised to never do that again. Then you return with a broken eye socket.
That's an idiotic statement. If the PlayStation system at the time has a large player base, why wouldn't you release your games there? Keep your salty emotions in check.
@@MaskDeSmith Some things are more important then money.
@@MasakanSolaris Not for publishers.
This is why my PS5 money is going into a gaming PC.
I recently switched from console gaming to pc as well due to Sony's censorship. Hopefully pc starts to become more popular amongst Japanese developers in the future
@@momomizu4184 it will. I don't think Sony is going to get any better. They are going to have no choice eventually. They may even move to Xbox and switch.
It's such a shame, isn't it?
It's time for Japan to make more than just visual novels for PC.
Jazeen I built a not too bad gaming and streaming pc for pretty much under a grand
@@momomizu4184 Hopefully? r.r;
"niten-does that Sony doesn't"
just say "don't" like the sega commercials because its sounds sharper and catchy
This makes me curious, since Sony has been doing this for so long, if this was one of the reasons Nintendo didn't work with Sony for the 4th gen consoles. Like from what I know, one of the reasons Nintendo left the deal, was because Sony was trying to have power over the system in some way (I think part ownership or perhaps just extra pay for the discs), and maybe they were wanting to be more strict with games, when this was the era that Nintendo was trying move away from their kid-friendly and 3rd party over-controlling image.
@@GBDupree if you're talking about the cartridge to disc transition, it was Nintendo being too conservative (or traditionalist). A common problem in any large successful companies (either internally or due to shareholders).
@@magic_cfw Well I was talking about before that, when they were trying to make the "Nintendo Playstation" and then Nintendo and Sony split. I heard that Sony was greedy and trying to get more out of the deal than neccesary, and that's why Nintendo backstabbed them.
As for the Cartridge thing, that's actually more to do with several factors. 1: they just made enemies with a major disc company and their other choice was the CDi. and 2: they believed that cartridges were still better. And they were right about that considering we still use cartridges in everyday life (flash drives, SD cards), and CDs are basically obsolete. But at the time it wasn't the best choice, since they were more expensive for less storage, but they were still superior otherwise.
It's sad Sony is still censoring Anime/ecchii games. 😓
Thankfully I own a Nintendo Switch and it's modded so I don't have to worry about Nintendo censoring any games there 😎
Your lucky that you have a Nintendo switch but for me my Nintendo account is suspended forever and I tried to get my stuff back with a different account and it didn't save my progress so I'm just stuck playing Playstation.
How do u modded?
@@marin688 No
@@marin688 my brother grab someone's credit spent it on something which I forgot what game it was and there wasn't way how to get my data back.
Nintendo only censors their own games so you don't have to worry about any third party games getting censored on the Switch.
Sony: We can't have too explicit content on our platform!
Also Sony: The Last Of Us 2
Unnecessary censorship i'm always against.
"Necessary" censorship isn't a thing.
@@claire6452 well that depends on the cultures and customs of a certain country. Say a game has imagery (Nazi symbols, certain political topics, etc.) that a certain country finds to be distasteful to outright offensive, it could be censored to avoid causing a stir in the society.
In another case, depending on the game and age rating censoring scenes can make them fit said rating better. For example you have a kids game where a character dies, and the original scene shows the character being killed with blood everywhere. Of course that's too inappropriate for kids so it would be censored during production to be non gory so kids can still see it.
@@heehooobsessor7907 No. You don't sell them your product. Censorship isn't a solution. The vision shouldn't be changed to accommodate anyone.
Do what you want, but don't show it to everyone.
If your kid game has blood and violence, then it's not a kid game. What kind of dumb logic is that? If you want blood and gore, don't sell to kids. It's that simple.
Censoring so you can "sell to everyone" is what make every media feel stale and boring. Everything ends up being the same shit. Make something for a specific audience, and don't bow down to the ones that might get offended. That's all there is to any kind of art or media.
@@claire6452 That's what 4Kids did, and look where that got them.
@@claire6452 I agree..
But Money is their top priority... 🙄
So who's gonna check the SONY Checkers?
And DMC 5 is censored in Europe btw
People needs to kick up a fuss for us on Twitter it's not fair that the United States gets to have it uncensored and we over in Europe don't.
@Orwellian Future Is Now shut it puppet
True
@@otakuthegreat Tell em Great one
@Orwellian Future Is Now be quiet
Unless you are refferring to something else, than DMC 5 was ALSO censored here in America (I'm referring to the lights covering things). But the censorship was only on the PS4, and not on the Xbox. So it should be the same over there.
Later on Sony's going to regret this decision.
Unfortunately I don't think this will happen. These types of VNs, dating sims, jrpgs are still more of a niche thing and Sony seems to want their image to be as a modern high quality graphic focussed and politically correct gaming company, they gonna promote games like the last of us or horizon zero dawn with strong female characters and I think Censored Gaming already has shown that the majority of the japanese market plays on smartphone or PC nowadays, so it won't hit them hard if a few niche games sell worse than their competitors. And as long as they don't touch big mainstream games like GTA, CoD or other popular triple A games, there's not going to be major damage on their image as the majority of people simply don't care because they aren't affected or even approve when fanservice gets removed on a few "weeb games".
@Orwellian Future Is Now Nintendo overtakes them? They’ve got a long way to go. The only reason they can get top of Microsoft and sony is by making sure that they uphold their software sales which means no sales and a potential increase in first party title prices.
@@LucyKosaki it will , they destroyed TLOUS and Nintendo is closing in with the popular Swicth that doesnt censor games and doesnt trash their first party games, little by little Sony has been losing terrain
@@kyzersoze8408 LOL this nonsense, Nintendo is making more profit with cheaper hardware and outselling their competition , it destroyed xbox 1 and its coming for the PS4 , best of all their games sell well for ages and are cheaper to make than triple A games for xbox and PS5 , how long will those 2 be able to keep up with ever raising costs? you think Microsoft is al cozy with Nintendo just because? naah they now the big N is thinking long term , just wait for a more capable Swicth to come for the PS5 and new xbox that despite being out for months have no system seller games to date
@Orwellian Future Is Now can you tell me a game that’s propaganda apart from the last of us 2 that Sony released? Spiderman didn’t flop. Its one of the best selling ps4 games while the spiderman miles morales outsold uncharted the lost legacy which is what was expected of it in the first place.
I'm happy that Censored Gaming exists.
Sony censoring cute girls in bikinis but showing explicit sex with transvestites... typical.
Nintendo once said that Night Trap will never be on one of their systems. Fast foward to 2018 and the anniversary edition on Switch.
I really hope a lot of companies will refuse Sony censorship and no longer make Sony versions. Make those idiots bleed. Go woke, go broke.
I hope they keep getting pressure and will back off.
Once it makes more sense for them profit-wise, they will do a 180. That's why it's important to vote with your wallet.
I don't think so. SIE is based in California and are ideologically driven to censor now. The censorship will only get worse and worse and it will never ease up, even if/when it spells certain doom for the playstation brand.
Same here. Sony needs to stop treating their player base like children.
Except history has shown that no matter how many times they let up, they always tighten back up the first moment they can. Why even bother with them when they have proven incapable of changing?
@@GBDupree And this is why I refuse to buy a PS5.
"the Wall Street Journal is one of the oldest and authoritative source."
lol, 'authoritative' is not really a good descriptor for the publication.
WSJ spun the GME squeeze as being the work of "intolerant white supremacists" trying to gamify the stock market and out gun noble career investors. If that doesn't out the WSJ as having zero credibility, then their usage of completely unrelated identity politics to spin the peasant class beating the hedge funders at their own game should at least signal the publication's baldfaced ambitions as a propaganda source.
authoritative isn't a descriptor to anything in Mainstream Media these days. They lie, misinform and deceive to push their agenda all the time, and they have a huge disdain for us gamers, weebs and fucking degenerates in general.
"Sony check" themself into my no buy list.
Abolish the Sony Check.
Companies, particularly gigantic corporations like Sony, can generally be expected to just do whatever they think will make them more money. If they think they'll get more money by pretending to care about something for PR, then they'll do that, and if they think they'll lose out on money from their competition not doing the same then they won't.
Unfortunately, thus far, Sony's decision has proven to be the correct one for the company. The big sellers these days aren't from Japanese developers, they're from a bunch of Western "AAA" publishers. As long as Spider-Man, Cyberpunk, The Last of Us, God of War, and sports games continue to make all the money, they have little reason to change direction and risk making some of those customers mad when they find out Bullet Girls exists.
Hopefully, if people keep giving them negative attention and press about it, they might be swayed to ease up, but with the PS5 constantly selling out despite having no games and costing $500, things don't seem great for fans of Japanese games on PlayStation consoles in the near future. All the people in charge see is that whatever they're currently doing is working.
Basically. The ps4 has proven to be a massive success in the west. With all the recent 1st party games being more catering to western audience, heck the big Japanese developers/publishers that have a good relationship with Sony are also focusing on a western market.
Perfect example Square enix & their “ethics department” not to mention the recent shift of final fantasy games being action oriented rather than tradition Turn based RPG.
Sony also has proven that they no longer care about AA/budget games, from their japan studios, they’ve never bothered making a new Ape escape game, gravity rush 2, wasn’t promoted enough, & freedom wars online multiplayer shut down in such a short time.
"making some of their customers mad when they find out Bullet Girls exist".
Those weirdos aren't even 1% of the player base, just vocal and in control of/cahoots with the gaming "press" and western devs.
Thanks for your work, mate.
This just reminded me of something, maybe you at censored gaming should take a look at the original Drakengard for the PS2. It became somewhat infamous for just how much of it had been censored for the western release.
Consider me personally intrigued. I've never heard of that game.
@@329link Oh boy.
Let's just say that the game is somewhat infamous among those who know of it. In the original Japanese release it featured things such callous mass murderer, a pedophile, a child cannibal, child abuse, incest and more.
And that's just on the heroes side. It get's worse when you get to the villains.
And then babies start raining from the sky.
I wish I was making that up.
I assume you have heard of Nier Automata? Drakengard was Yoko Taro's directorial debut and is part of Nier's timeline.
Well much of what I mentioned was either censored or severely toned down for the western release. It had to effect of making an already confusing plot even harder to follow.
@@matteste yeah, in my limited experience with his work, censoring Yoko Taro sounds like censoring the creators of saw. Now I really gotta look this game up. Thanks!
@@329link Just avoid Drakengrad 2. Taro had nothing to do with it and Square really tried to turn the series into something more generic with that game.
@@matteste I remember drag-on dragoon 3 had a censored bit for comedic effect but in the JP version it was intact
Nothing surprising here, Playstation has always been following trends and the only reason they took the "mature gaming" attitude was because SEGA was doing that, now that political correctness is the trend they are ready to jump in, their target market is the broadest common denominator so it makes sense they want to avoid going against the current
That surprises me that it was a problem even back in the 6th Gen. Especially remembering God of War 1 & 2. Is that difference because it was an SCEA game?
Nah dude. Soyny is acting all woke. It's not about money anymore it's about power.
They can control the content, but show whatever sexually explicit games they favor.. Ones that push propaganda. Like Last of Us 2.
Well it definitely seems that they aren't strict with their own games, especially when it seems that the problem they have is with anime styled games, and God of War is more realistic. But that being said, even I never knew it was a problem with them for so long now. I know a lot of gaming history, but that slipped past me.
Just DON'T buy Sony products anymore...money talks, and once it hurts their profits they will change.
Indeed, last one I bought was Playstation Vita
Enjoy the Medium or some shit.
@@blaquemann9398 Enjoy Godfall and Destruction All-Stars 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. The Medium is not even shit
Sony is seemingly fine with whatever the hell that was in Last Of Us 2 and they didn't seem to have any problems with the customizable genitals in Cyberpunk 2077 but they're offended by waifu bait.
i cant believe nintendo is more mature friendly than sony now
Rip SIE JapanStudio
Wall St Journal claims that SONY is cracking down on "Explicit Content" in Japanese Games, but what SONY is doing is censoring mild or medium Ecchi content in Japanese Games.
I often considered Explicit Content as something that referred to under the Hentai label, not something that would be considered as mild to medium Ecchi content.
there is the valid concern that people may misunderstand what appears to be a family friendly game for it's cartoonish appearance (there are some misleading media which does this as a gimmick. The combination of Moe and Gore). Though 100% of the time the labelling, description and media around it would give you the impression that it is obviously not.
(I say this as someone who has watched... questionable anime long literally before I was able to understand what fanservice is)
Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be turning to Nintendo for uncensored/original content. 0_o! But I'm sure all other platforms have their own (lesser known) version of the "Sony Check", except Steam/PC.
Steam has a Sony check as well. And of course all consoles defer to ratings boards, and Nintendo is no exception.
@@faiyez In a world where everything is censored to some extent, no-one would argue that Steam is by far the least filtered format and Sony, as of late, being the most.
@@XanderCrease Censorship is censorship, but if there's something 30+ years of gaming taught me, it's that everyone is willing to draw the line somewhere.
Yeah the "Chinese Check" for Steam and GOG.
Nintendo is just smart.
Playstation used to be my go to system for third party games since they look and run better than Nintendo ports, for the most part. But now I'm buying less Playstation games since I'll never reward censorship. Sony might ease up if it affects their bottom line. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
Yeah, but at least PC will always look better, and Nintendo will always be more portable. So Playstation really seems like the budget casual version of a PC without any of the benefits, and really not much cheaper. Plus, outside of Bloodborne and I guess God of War, Sony really doesn't have any good exclusives to make the system compelling (especially when they have become so same-y, like they all play basically the same, its like they have their own version of the "Ubisoft-open-world-game" problem).
And history has shown that Sony will sometimes loosen up their grip on censoring, but will always tighten back up whenever they can. So why bother when they clearly will never change?
Bayonetta 2 and 3 would be censored on PS4/PS5 let's be honest.
As long as Sony continues to censor everything I will just continue to enjoy buying games on My Switch. Gal Gun Returns will be my next purchase!
sony don't censor everything, the upcoming Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy as an exsample, in no way has it been censored, and it's staying that way.
They got extremely heavy blowback before its release. The only reason it wasnt. It got so bad they werent selling the physical collecters edition
@@Yusei255 But they did cancel players that preordered the game physically though and make it exclusively digital in the US.
@@ShinMegamiTensei1 well it's physical regular edition over here for the game in Australia
@@Yusei255 I didn’t know. Cause it’s digital only here...
The only way I can see this getting fixed is Japan makes a concerted effort to not release games on the PS5 until changes are made at Sony.
Many of them already have by releasing games that were on Playstation but future games being for Switch.
That seems to be the case, however Sony likely doesn't care about those because the big AAA 3rd parties are still releasing on their consoles (like Capcom games for instance).
Sony wouldn't care. Ever since the move they're obviously only focusing on Western projects for Western audiences. The better way would be for the Western audience to not purchase these games, but no one here has that level of restraint. At least, not enough people for it to make a difference. Maybe the scalpers did us a favor. With thousands of units being used by no one, maybe sales of games will actually suffer.
Soyny clearly sees their customers as enemies.
Sony is already americanized, they trying to remove any japanese influences, thats why i m also done with playstation, ps1-ps4 has given me a lot of joy, time to move on
Remember kids, if conservatives and christians come and censor the stuff you like, like movies, cartoons, anime, games and music, and you don't like the censorship and fight back against them, call them out and demand your entertainment to be intact and unchanged, you're a hero, doing this is an honor, it's the right thing to stand up for your hobby.
But if liberals, progressives, feminists, censor your entertainment, you're not supposed to fight back, because if you complain, you're an angry nerd, a virgin, a crybaby, an incel, you're worrying too much about small stuff, you act like they are taking away your toys, and your responses just prove that these people really are right.
@Cauliflower That excuse was already debunked, Sony censored all kinds of sexual content regardless of the age of the characters.
And leftist censorship goes way beyond just that.
@Cauliflower Nope, Sony not only should be blamed for listening to the complaints of leftists, who became pretty much the same thing as those people who said violent videogames are turning children into murderers and Pokémon is satanic, and also since the PlayStation headquarters are now in California, it probably means that the leftists themselves are working there and made those censorships on their own will.
Ok, I admit that companies have the right to censor their own products if they do it because they want, not because the government demanded it and they should have that right, but much of the censorship from the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s was not demanded by governments either, and fans also have the right to complain and demand their products intact.
The 1990s and 2000s was a time many games and anime were getting heavy censorship, then they realized that uncensored versions are more profitable, but now, even though those leftists that complaing about everything are not that many people, they keep getting the censorship they want.
And when you realize that Sony owns funnimation and crunchyroll. I hope they don't censor anime too much
Doesn't funimation have a bad reputation?
Idk
It's pretty much guaranteed at this point. They've been on the forefront of anime hating, so that's probably _why_ they bought it--to destroy it.
@@flameshana9 Bingo.
Funimation has been at the forefront of anime censorship, so its already a lost cause. Crunchyroll from what I know has done some stuff too, but never to the degree that Funimation is known for. Funimation used to be so popular because they fought the censorship that 4Kids was so famous for, and now they are just as bad, and much more anti-consumer and corrupt than 4Kids ever was. Not to mention the people working there are the biggest hive of scum and villainy ever. There's a reason that after buying Funimation, Sony immediately bought the more popular competitor. Regretful purchases will do that to a company.
iv never heard someone talk so fast yet take so long to get to the point in my life
Today's Sony Check is quite different than the previous one. Before, it was Sony's platform simply having a generally stricter standard than other platforms such as the Saturn. The standard applies to every game in a generally unbiased way. Today, however, is that Sony shifted their operation to the US from Japan and became a California company, with rampant SJWs attacking everything they don't like. It is no longer a generally stricter standard, but an ideologically-driven, blatant double standard as many gamers have pointed out.
We live in a day and age where the nintendo console has less censorship. Think about that.
Its actually been that way for a LONG time. Nintendo only censored in the NES/SNES era, and mostly due to outside influence (the 80s game crash and the game-violence scare of the 90s). Since the N64 and onward they've been very nice and unrestrictive to 3rd parties and rarely self-censored until Nintendo of America started messing with some WiiU games. But that's been stopped recently. Nintendo just has a family friendly image, and people think that is enforced when its not, its just an image for the company and not something all games have to follow.
@@GBDupree You're right, I suppose nintendo's massive lack of third party support back in the day of the gamecube/wii kind of lowered the amount of examples one could see of them not censoring titles. Still, it's weird how they got known for something that they stopped doing so long ago. Maybe that family friendly image made people think they wouldn't tolerate things like that?
@@329link Yeah, basically. Even recently developers still say things like "I didn't think our game would be fit for the audience" or "I didn't think Nintendo would allow it". Its just this image that has hurt Nintendo for years, and they just can't shake it. Even now people are surprised to be seeing them be so open and willing to have games uncensored.
My best guess is that the Sega commercials were just THAT influential. The "Nintendon't" ones. And couple that with 3rd parties leaving Nintendo in the 64 era, though that is for other reasons, giving the appearance that 3rd parties are hindered by Nintendo's strictness (rather than the real business reasons, such as Catridge space and price over the cheaper PS1 CDs). this was probably kept alive even during the Gamecube era simply because the sentiment was held up by PS fans and disgruntled Sega fans who saw Sega turn 3rd party. Basically the console wars didn't help. And of course Nintendo embracing the casual audience during the Wii didn't help, even though it didn't hurt since they picked up everyone that was pushed out by those same console wars. Nowadays no one really fights against consoles, so Nintendo has been steadily losing that image, but its been so ingrained into game society for so long, the classic definition of a Meme really, that people still haven't let go of it.
But yeah, the history of video games are something I've always enjoyed and its interesting how perceptions and reality often conflict despite clear documentation and the recentness of it all.
I wish you brought up the DLC voted costume issue with Nora Cats here too, just because that was such BS.
Sony just gets on my nerves. Like, what the fuck is your problem? It's totally fine showing a full on dry digging sex scene in TLoU2, but anime girls in skimpy outfits (NOT EVEN NUDE!) have to be ridiculously, puritanically covered?! In what bizarro timeline do we live in?!?
F this, I am leaving the Sony ship, and hopping to Nintendo.
Sony`s decline in Japan started with ps3 even without censoring that gen.
The Japanese prefer handhold consules. But censorship with Sony sped the decline up.
What decline? Your incel is clouding your perception. They are literally risking covid trying to get their hands on their console
@@blaquemann9398 ps3 sales are much lower than ps2 sales in Japan. Your ignorance and degenerate mind can’t comprehend that. Instead, your taking down confederate statues like the BLM supporter you are. Gross, imagine supporting BLM 🤢
@@blaquemann9398 don't judge the group by the actions of a few. Your parents should have thought you that. As it is a basic lesson that everyone should know, this is especially obvious in the recent years.
Eh. I don't really care for The Wall Street Journal, I find journalists especially in the West to be full of shit, but, regardless. I absolutely hate the "Sony Check", it's been such a huge middle finger to Japanese developers that wanna make video games the way THEY 100% made it on Sony's platforms. I really hope someday Sony America will finally lighten up, and not let Japanese games be censored, but, knowing America these days, I'm not holding my breath.
Nintendo should copy Sony and impose stricter, NO SEXUAL CONTENT on their store. Nintendo should be totally safe for Adults and Children alike.
When it comes to wanting physical releases, I hate that it's between PS4 physical 60fps (usually) but censored, or Switch physical but most likely sacrifice performance.
Or you can say F it and just get the PC release (wish these had physical releases again.)
I feel you on that one. No physical releases on PC is why I stopped playing on PC years ago.
Sony forgetting that it's a Japanese company and was appealing for supporting Japanese developers. Now they're just doing what Xbox did, but again and way worse.
Xbox refused gal gun so that says it all
Sony is a garbage platform. Stick to PC and, I guess, the Switch (for now).
@Comander Cosmo don't worry, developers and publishers alike will just change platforms or self publish.
self publishing is in fact better for fans, because the developers get a better cut of your money.
@Comander Cosmo While Steam does censor some games, they do allow Devs to release patches that remove censorship. Just as long as the dev doesn't promote it on the store page. Made even funnier is the fact that you can find uncensored games on Steam as well.
Don't you watch any Sony Pictures movies?
@@gnaurai6251 Microsoft cannot censor animes
Sony is forgetting their Japanese market while fail trying to appeal to western market.
Now microsoft is trying to appeal to Japanese, Sony is in a pinch of loosing exclusive deals right now.
I miss the good ol days where my ps3 and ps4 japanese games don't have unnecessary "western" censorship. Those were playstation gold days where i can enjoy my exclusive in peace.
So the Sony Check killed SK. .-.
Look at the other videos about that game series with the Ninja gals.
No, it was mostly China's fault. Tencent (The oh-so hated company), linked to the Chinese Government, acquired 20% of Marvelous by new shares. That means forcing them to follow their "recomendations" in regards of NSFW in their games, because...you know, Chinese really hate this kind of stuff. Because of this tiranny and censorship, many staple figures of Marvelous like Kenichiro Takaki, the creator of Senran Kagura, regretfully left the company and moved onto other videogame projects. Sony was part of this, too, but they wouldn't care if they released these games on other platforms
@@cristianmastrocicco4552
But...20% of shares doesn't give this kind of power, I think.
@@KarolusTemplareV Well, you're kinda wrong. It still gets them the power to decide Marvelous' actions, and they CAN'T ignore their orders
@@cristianmastrocicco4552 With 20%? And what happens if someone else has say a 20%?
I am loving the irony that Nintendo, who was notorious for censoring games in the 80s and 90s, is now releasing games uncut, while one of their biggest rivals is now getting all the flak for doing that shit. Never has it been more fun to be a Nintendo fan.
PC is the way to go for uncensored games.
@Comander Cosmo It always will be because of mods.
@Comander Cosmo You know you don't need Steam to get games on PC right? There are thousands of marketplaces where you can sell the game, or you can even sell it on your own site. The marketing suffers, but that doesn't stop the game from being released.
Xbox needs to go back to 2009 rules. And Sony back to that "lax" period.
This happen when Sony put their HQ in USA.
But it has happened since the PS1 era. It is based on Sony’s mood not where they are at.
I don't know how I feel about Sony abandoning Japan. It feels like they're ditching their charm, now that they have to abide by the western standards. It's kind of sad to see, honestly.
It really is but PS still get a the bulk of those games.
i couldn't be the only one waiting the whole time to see how they censored Vegeta's ass clapping of Golden Frieza
Was hoping Xbox would be better, especially with how bad Sony has gotten but now the Xbox version of Gal Gun got cancelled. It's bullshit.
Damn.. That sucks and I saw it. Would be much angerier and/or Just as angry as I am with seeing this.
Japan Aways get popular stuff
Such measures are so hypocritical and draconian - censorship doesn't work, people will always find a way to express themselves. Let them be.
In the end, all corporations answer to the money first.
Looks like sony hasn't learned from their beta VS VHS format wars.
I'm a simple man. I see Nekopara in the thumbnail, I click.
basado
You didn't mention that only Japanese or anime styled games are suffering from this. Last of us 2 is the obvious example of how games get a pass if it doesn't feature anime girls.
Ah yes, what's old is new again, but for dumber reasons. 🤦🏿♂️
Never thought I'd see "Sony Check" come back in style (or see a not-negative shout out to Sankaku Complex in a RUclips video).
Even more reason why I refuse to buy a PS5.
Cause if Sony won't respect their audience, why should they respect them?
I will rejoice when the second games industry crash occurs.
Then new game devs rise from the ashes, to create a anti Greedy/inflirateable Industry.
Nah highly unlikely, gaming is larger than movies now. Sony going down bad again might happen tho , did once with ps3 and they had to be a lil more humble at the beginning of ps4 life span and end of ps3 until they hit jackpot again and went back to being assholes
I'm still mad Sony's policies killed the popularity of Zanki Zero in the west.
That was a good game, and we didn't even lose much through the censorship, it just made grinding annoying.
Damn, how is the game series?
@@thecompareablezombie It wasn't a series. Just one game. Zanki Zero: Last Beginning.
It was a fun dungeon real time action dungeon crawler with crazy sci fi elements. You could really feel that the danganronpa developers made it.
@@Inari_the_Fox that’s also the fault of spike chunsoft too. They were complacent to Sony’s regulation.
I’d like to remind you recently that one developer, & top hat studios made sure to voice out they would stand their ground & not censor their product.
Spike could’ve easily just canceled the ps4 release in favor PC, to keep it from getting any alterations. (XSEED recently did this with one of their games, Uppers..which was suppose to be on PS4, but got canceled & just released on PC)
None of these developers have a backbone, XSEED could’ve just found a way to develop SK7 on other platforms, but they didn’t and accepted the series is dead. (Countering what they did with uppers.)
Koei Tecmo, with DoA6 just to get the game taken more seriously as a fighting game, losing a good chunk of the fan base it.
Square enix, and their ethics department.
ATLUS, altering dialogue for Persona 5R, Catherine full body, & 13 sentinels aegis rim.
@@maroXUprising oh My God atlus.( I haven't played aegis rim so take this with a grain of salt) but I'm still mad they changed one dialogue option to imply that a character is non binary. In the original script that character was a simple crossdresser. There aren't enough femboys and crossdressers in games, and they take away that representation for a different one.
@@Inari_the_Fox yeah, Aegis rim should’ve stuck to the original script of the one character being a cross dresser. The Game is solid, but that ridiculous attempt to avoid outrage is just a pity...Atlus of America clearly is trying to avoid getting outrage mobbed on twitter & other social media platforms overall.
Which is unfortunate that they’ve been doing this awhile. It’s funny that with persona 5R, they changed that one scenario with ryuji, & even after that alternated Dialogue scenario, people still ended up getting upset that the dialogue was still not good enough.
I'm confused. How come Tokyo Mirage Sessions on Switch was censored compared to the Wii U version despite Nintendo check not existing. Was that an Atlas decision?
Because it’s a first party title last I checked and some people say it’s because the Wii U version sold more of the censored copies in the west since the console basically bombed everywhere but collectively the censored version was in more regions so it sold more as a result.
@@AtelierGod it's a reason. However iirc the original censorship was a Atlus USA thing. I guess using the censored west version would be easier for localisation. Still a disappointment.
Much like a Sony Check, there is also a Nintendo Check. While they have been more light on it with the Switch, back in the WiiU, 3DS and before there was censorship with many english releases of games. Bravely Default 2, Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates, Fatal Frame, TMS #FE, etc. The reason why they rereleased TMS censored? I don't know, but probalby it is due to copyright.
@@heitorbatista5392 TMS wasn't a copyright issue but its laziness combined with muh global standards (censoring "problematic" elements which would offend twitter / normies overseas) and it being handled by NoA/Atlus USA who tend to be pretty censorious towards JP games if given the opportunity.
the censorship was definitely an Atlus USA thing and Nintendo was alright with it because the Fire Emblem IP was involved. Atlus rereleased the american censored Wii U version on to the Switch because it sold better than the uncensored Wii U version.
Then there is the RGE Sony check.
If a game is on PlayStation, without having an exclusive PlayStation version, assume the game is censored.
I have no reason to waste my money on Sony any more anyway. Never again, their products aren't that great anyway. No need for Sony with a good PC and a Switch anyway.
What song products? Gaming wise they’re great. So many of their exclusives are must plays. For me with ps there’s no need for any other console or PC
Sony*
@@tomasdelcampo2 there exclusives are trash now bloodborne gravity rush and God of war are the only simi decent exclusives in the past 6 years
@@denisn8336 www.gamesradar.com/best-ps4-exclusives/ here u go since u clearly have no idea. Also bloodborne semi decent? it's the best exclusive ever period, arguably best game ever. God of war was also GOTY by a lot
@@tomasdelcampo2 - But, what about _your_ opinion on those games?
Remember when Nintendo and Sony worked together until the collaboration with Phillips that could've been so much better, and how people probably still call out Nintendo for it? With the censorship fiasco going on, I don't think many people would care about those times now.
It’s because of all the npc feminist sjw whining on Twitter an Sony wants there approval more than letting good games be censored
The correlation is whenever Sony is doing really well they get cocky (something Nintendo knows a little something about) and then they think they can just start cracking down on content. During the PS3 and PSP days they wanted as many hands and eyes on their product as possible so clearly especially in Japan they wanted to be the
"cool kid" that allowed edgier more risque content. once the PS4 turned out to be an enormous hit and they basically had no serious competition from either Xbox or the floundering Wii U with Nintendo they knew they could get away with anything. (and let's be honest once they cut ties with Vita and pretty much let it be it's own thing they didn't care what content was on that thing) The other thing is they are moving farther away from their eastern roots. After the HQ was moved to California their entire philosophy shifted immensely (I'm from/currently in California and I can tell you this is a fact) they have embraced the much more puritanical attitudes of the US (and the worst parts of the internet) and are almost entirely now focused on that region. I don't think Sony will ever come back to being itself again not after the changes they've made and the enemies they've created due to their new policies. I'd say for the foreseeable future it's Nintendo and PC. Never thought I'd say those two words together.