2 Basic BJJ Chokes that Are Effective in Competition or a Fight
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- What submissions can you use in a BJJ competition or a street fight or self defense situation? This is the question for today's video.
The question comes from our buddy Bart who is curious about what kind of submissions cross over from the competition realm in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu to a street fight.
In this video I start by sharing that if I am going to use a submission on the street. I'm going to focus on chokes instead of joint locks.
This is a two fold function. 1 most people don't know what grappling is or what they should be feeling with joint locks. And if the person is really aggressive. The joint lock may not work as effectively as desired. Especially if they are are on some sort of drug.
The 2nd reason is, it lets me finish the fight without doing a lot of damage to the person so I can move on with what I was doing. For me, self-defense is about defending myself and not about dishing out excessive amounts of harm to another human.
Another side aspect of a fight situation that I didn't mention is that most often I will do my best just to control the situation using position.
If it's a situation involving a 1 on 1 fight (which isn't always), I will focus my attention on controlling the person till authorities can take it from there.
Back to the video!
In this video I show a standing rear naked choke and a standing guillotine choke. Both of which I have seen work in either my personal experience or the experiences of others in the street and/or mma.
If you watch this video understand that I'm speaking about a very specific situation. Street fights where rules are not recognized present too many variables.
The goal of a fight situation should be to avoid and get out of the situation if at all possible.
Hope you enjoyed the video!
-Chewy
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Typically people that can fight, don't
Mal Mort because they know they can win
And vice versa
wrong
@Mal Mort I know a lot of dudes that practice MMA & that's not the case. Guess there's a lot of douchebag fighters in your area.
Mal Mort I go to a school I’m in grade 8 and there’s a kid that has been doing mma for a month and is calling people out trying to fight them and before this kid didn’t know that I’ve been training for years and tried to fight me but I knew I’d kill the kid even though he was way bigger and everything but I just said oh whatever and walked away but someone told him that I trained I think my friend and now he says he was just trying to spar and stuff the kid is kind of a bully and stuff so I just told him that someone is always bigger and better than you and if he starts attacking a kid that doesn’t wanna fight I’m gonna fight him.
"Just break the wrist, and then walk away. Break the wrist; walk away." - Rex, sole proprietor at Rex Kwon Do self-defense systems
BOW TO YOUR SENSEI
But Rex knows the dim mak
lambynighttrain well that place was a rip of.
hahahaha I love it!
Nobody wants to be roundhouse kicked in these bad boys
Whaaatttt?????
No flying triangle?!?
Steve MacInnis I agree my master instructor pulled it of 69 times! He also did not jump he used his chi to actually fly
Nicolas Sarabia i dont think u wanna flying triangle or anything where u can get slammed onto concrete or something that hard. Maube a regular triangle but not sure
I like how there answering like u actually mean it
@@cesarberrios2731 i once suplexed this guy he got into my gaurd so i triangle choked him but whilst i was doing it i reversed into full mount so that i could start swinging at his face whilst choking him with my legs. This technique is pretty useful on the streets
The trainer at my gym used his chakra to create invisible stairs to help him
Chad’s sense of humor never fails to make me laugh. Such a cutie!
So true
I like how you’re just a realist about how stuff can happen. Some people don’t like talking about this stuff but you really never know when something can happen.
Oh man there's such a positive vibe about your personality!
Thank you.
Also easy to focus to
I wrestled from 6 to 18. I look at the fools ears. Lol
I practiced different types of martial arts and fighting since I was a tod. I usually look them at the eyes or see how they're body is positioned .
Wise man. I made that mistake of fighting a couliflower eared guy only once.
Someone explain
Lazy BatsBerg having cauliflower ear means that certain person has enough nutrients and energy to produce literal cauliflowers where his ears should be. This would mean that person would absolutely beat the shit out of you due to his heightened abilities blessed to him by cauliflower gods.
Lazy BatsBerg cauliflower ears is a result of scar tissue. Typically a person who has trained a lot in wrestling, BJJ, or other martial arts have a lot of scar tissue around their ears from the training.
if he is a grappler we will become friends. Lol ok soooo trueee
Yeah i actually seen that happen on a fight video on reddit. Two guys started grappling each other at walmart or whatever they both found out they trained jujitsu and stopped midway lmao.
Cairo Smith link? Subreddit?
Cairo Smith id like to see this
Sam Royal There’s a GracieBreakdown of this. Look it up.
@@jamesron5625 Fight at target - BJJ vs BJJ
Hey Chewy 2 questions:
1. Ben Askren ( Olympic Wrestler and Bellator MMA champ) went on joe rogan podcast and talked a little bit about why he dislikes the way BJJ schools teach the way they do and how there should be changes made. There's like a 10 minute video on youtube of that part of their discussion. I know you come from a wrestling background what are your thoughts on Ben Askren's rant on how BJJ is taught or your personal criticism of the traditional method of teaching bJJ.
2. I was thinking about this the other day. When it comes to motivation the belt system provides an extrinsic form of motivation as opposed to an intrinsic form of motivation. Do you really feel like the belt system is necessary? I guess it provides extra motivation to come to class more often in order to get the new belt or stripe, but at the same time that shouldn't be what your focus should be on.
3. This is a technical question. I keep getting caught in Guillotines from particular ppl that are good at catching ppl in guillotines from very stange positions. Is there a general rule or tips you can give to avoid getting caught or being susceptible to guillotines?
p.s
I lied about only having 2 questions. I love your channel. Thank you ChewyHulse
answer the damn question Chewy!
I hope the Chewmaster responds
Already filmed the video for this one. I'll get it posted this week. ;)
YEAHHHHHH CHEWYYY RESPONDED AND MADE A RESPONSE VIDEO
You're the man, chewy.
that guillotine counter for the chode-double leg is great. Used it in a bar fight where the guy just went for that sloppy double, arm around his neck and went down in closed guard guillotine. Didn't really choke him unconscious, but left him in a sort of hangover state. Bet he learnt the lesson. Great video.
Don Abbondio it's harder if they come in with the head on the inside. Wrestlers usually go outside and BJJ guys inside.
"why is this mans face beaten down like hamburger meat?" haha classic
Distance is very important but you should really keep your hands off the other person if you are trying to deescalate the situation. Just having your hands up in front of you should be fine and is a better situation to be talking from.
Other than that I completely agree with the choice of a choke in a streetfight as opposed to an armbar or any other snaphappy fun stuff.
Always be careful though! Most people are not alone so watch your six. This is also why choking in a standing position is best for the street.
We appreciate what you share! Drilled the side control movement drills in class all week.
"Dislikes" from the victims of the chokes. Brilliant content! Thanks
Really like your videos. a lot of functional training methods and info! I would say however, that now things are changing , and there are more and more people with training(mma, basic bjj etc) that do get into fights, at bars for example. And even criminals with some training. Also I really like the rear naked , in the way you showed it for bringing someone down. I will say though, I have used it in a street situation before(working in a security related job), and as I was putting it on, and the guy was going for a concealed knife and almost got it out, thankfully I was working with a friend who controlled his hands , with basic grips. It worked out well in that situation , but you need to be very mindful how quick that knife can come out(or any weapon). Thanks for all the good videos and content! Awesome channel
I'm really interested in seeing a video where multiple guys charge one dude and that dude scares them off with a powerful double leg. That sounds awesome.
Crazier things have happened.
Look up cholo vs mma fighter in parking garage
This is great. Just a warning, if you're in any doubt the target has any sharps just keep away from him. Don't be a hero. Closing the distance, especially going for a choke just gives them a chance to shank you in the thigh.
I know this might seem obvious but.. meh.
Instantly subscribed. This is exactly the vid I was looking for to complement the little bit of BJJ practice I have.
That double leg had me cracking up
I've been doing bjj since I was 2 (27 now) Thai boxing for 7 years and incorporated wrestling to be a complete mma fighter and it takes a lot to get me to fight with a stranger out and about in the world. Always walk away unless they are actively attacking you or a loved one. Not worth it any other way. I see it as not having to sit in jail and having to pay medical bills.
You're no ranger, Andrew, only a green boy with the smell of summer still on you
This guy is GREAT. Agree with everything he said. As he said, in a close grapple where you can't choke you're pretty much gonna have to throw: but generally I'd make sure I then go into a front or rear naked choke where I'm mounted so my head isn't close to floor (head kicks) and more importantly, so I can see where other attackers are cos better to disengage than to get them all jump on top of you or head kick you.
5:42 Hesitantly goes for the bite lol
Oh, oh no.
I knew training in my PJs would be useful for a street fight. Sweet, sweet vindication. >:)
My brother learned some grappling in the military and recently one of his coworkers at a roofing job tried to pick a fight with him, they went for the sloppy doable knee and literally all my brother did was guide this guy to his knees and then just held him there. The guy had no leverage and no power, no range of motion and my brother could've still went into chokes from there. That doable knee is the worst. Lolol
I remember Firas zahabi saying though you have to be careful with chokes in a street fight though, you dont want to make him unconscious incase the guy actually dies. If he taps, he might get up and fight with you again.
JustJordan Agree,This is what I was thinking,seems no one cares,but actually this is the cause of many manslaughter cases.
When doing a guillitean you don’t lean back. You take your forearm and turn it towards you while leaning your shoulder towards him. It might seem weird. But it makes an incredible difference. Try it out yourself safely with your partner.
How to make sure or guarantee that your choke will only result in a nap, instead of death?
I am very afraid of choking someone to death, and thats why i am very hesitant to go for chokes, which, obviously, limits my abilities.
Also, as far as i know, you shouldnt put the guys head gently on the ground and walk away, after choking him out. You need to turn his body on the side, otherwise theres a risk he will swallow his own tongue and suffocate
Cutting blood to brain for seconds will cause unconsciousness. You release the choke and blood supply returns. Three to five MINUTES of choking blood to the brain can lead to permanent brain damage. Five or more minutes leads to death.
When you see people in a blood choke for a long time, they aren't actually *in* the choke; they're in an attempted choke. Once they go out and you release the choke, they'll wake up in a few seconds. If they've never been choked, they'll almost always ask how long they were out because, when you're out, it doesn't feel like only a few seconds. You would have to hold an unconscious person in a tight choke for five or so minutes to kill them.
Ive done guillotine with a person doing that exact flimsy takedown ...idropped my shoulders hookedem and lifted. Excellent counter too a double leg takedown.
I tell you now if you get into Street fight in a even remotely Ghetto area and you start submitting somebody all the bystanders will jump in and either kick your ass or just pull you off and tell you to throw hands or leave. If you want to take the fight to the ground make sure you're just subduing the other guy or rearranging his face with Strikes. For the love of God don't start to choke somebody out cause everybody will turn on you cept your ride or die friends. I've seen it happen several times which is why I always just rearranged someone's face from Top Mount in the 2 street fights I've been in.
Last Defender Of Xhotl I agree with you. I grew up in rough neighborhoods as a kid. When someone’s friend gets beat up. The rest join in.
And I wouldn’t pursue any sort of fight in an area like that. If at all possible you should get out of a fight situation on the street. There are just too many variables and no rules.
Also, I’ll do everything in my power not to find myself just hanging out in a bad area. Situational awareness is paramount.
utter made up nonsense
footbalr074
Dude, you have never been in the ghetto
lol sure buddy
footbalr074
> he's subscribed to nothing but gunmeme and cycling channels
Whoa everyone, watch out.
This noguns nerd is super legit
That double leg looked like what Ben Asrkrin was doing
I am training in MMA and always prefer grappling over striking , I think cuz it's more natural to me because of my gymnastics background . Hit like if even you're a more of a grappling person 🙌
Chewy n Chad for president 2020
Multiple attackers
Totally entertaining to watch very educational. Thanks.
Great stuff. One that i like is the arm triangle. Slide under the arm and wrap the neck tight and pull them off balance by stepping behind making sure they have multiple issues. Once there off balance, there being choked. And its natural when off balance to try and write yourself. By the time they figured out whats happening there waking up on the ground. Its nice for a few reasons one it allows you to be able to stay standing or go to the ground depending on whatever is best for the situation. You can use that person as a shield for a short time while you gather what's going around you. But the disadvantages are that your already in a bad situation if this person is swinging and it requires a good deal of timing and understanding of this choke on your part and the chance your going to get hit and laid out. If you don't have a chance to stop it though, generally people throw from the right first. you can kinda prepare for that and go in from there. I've only used this once. And I think a good deal of luck was involved with how smoothly it went. But it worked out. The key thing for me was keeping him off balance. Stepping behind him once i had the choke locked. Honestly didn't think about that. He was just a big guy and im thinking he can probably pick me up or something so i stepped behind him to put myself in a better position and it wound up working great
Chad you were awesome in this video, the thumb across the neck when he called you a killer was funny. Very intimidating lol great video thank you.
This was good and well explained I want to try jiu jitsu, what seems scary to me is closing the distance and going to ground in a street fight I always try and keep distance because I don't want to be hit first. And where I live the ones who will mess with you on the street are probably the type that will stab you, or have a whole pile of scumbag friends and family members who will make your life hell and sometimes you have to swallow your pride and walk away.
I am doing jiu jitsu over the summer and my double leg was super sloppy and i got choked instantly, the next time I ran it i dropped my hips and switched my feet around like I was taught and they could not secure the choke.
Nice video man.This is the first of your videos I watched and I just subscribed!
“Chad’s a killer” *drags👍 across his neck😂😂😂 that was great
simple,basic techniques and beautiful details👍👌
Believe it or not I leaned the same type of off balance technique, grabbing the shoulder . spinning the person top get the back and locking in a rear naked choke we also leaned stepping on the back of the knee to drive them to the ground while the choke is in from my 1st Karate instructor , yes leaned that in Karate (the stuff that some people say doesnt work) OSS
Awesome video! If I ever find myself in your neck of the woods I'll definitely buy you guys a round of beers :)
I love this guy in the red. Have him in more please
Everything Hub he has a youtube channel chad THE BEAST hardy
He's like the Silent Bob of BJJ.
His name is mr chad
My name is Chris; from Fresno,California. I just completed my first bjj class and it was awesome. My professor was great and everyone helped me every step of the way! Quick question, I’m short, 5’3 140lbs. I was learning a couple of positions/moves and it was difficult because my legs are short. What are the pros and cons of being short in bjj? How do I adapt?
Chris
The short dudes I roll with that whoop my ass are always faster than me, usually play pretty aggressive, and have good guard passing. Guard passing and pressure
Fuck Fresno
That’s why I do mma and kickboxing also with bjj. Drunk or not some good tai kicks to legs will take someone off their feet. Especially calf kicks they hurt. 2-3 good calf kicks with shin they will be limping.
Thank you. Generous with your knowledge as always.
First story made me think, Cocaine is a hell of a drug 😂 dude said fuck this arm I’ll hit the bouncer with my other. Great video brother!
Nothing like a good old neck crank
In a multiple attacker scenario is when your edc pistol comes out. Preferably you can run away. If you can flee a fight that's always choice #1
This was really cool mate! thanks for the upload.
Hey man! Loving the videos! Have been watching for a while and it was because of these videos I decided to start BJJ (only started last week)
Just wondering.... would love to rep the Chewjitsu brand over in the UK, do you ship Tshirts over here? If so how much is it? Keep up the good work brother!
Thanks
Ben
BIG thumb up for the choke argument. in 99% i would go for a choke, no matter waht weight, height or so... its good to know all stuff but chokes are the "safe" stuff. for me.
chad is the best comedic background
nice to see you laid his head down, the sensei's at my dojo have similar stories where they are in total control.
chokes are perfect for many street situations but one thing to remember is the lawsuit factor if too many people don´t tell the truth and say that you started it. in the first scenario you actually would have been charged considering you grabbed him first and proceeded to choke him unconscious. during court it would have been known that you were trained and could have done more to avoid what happened.
awesome advice. I'm a Krav Maga instructor so ya, slam them on the ground for sure, but you don't need to be down there with them. throw them down and then stand on their throat or do whatever you need to do, but the ground isn't a nice cushy mat! getting kicked in the head by a buddy can kill you, too.
I haven't seen many street fights but one (and wait until the end) did end up with a takedown and somebody being in the mount position.....
.....sadly for the dude in the mount position (the aggressor), he wasn't a fighter. his opponent (the defender), however, had training and made a series of rapid choices that were super impressive (to me, at least).
1) He (the defender) was able to size up his opponent instantly and figured 'I'm much taller, odds are I have a much longer reach'. He was right.
2) He stayed calm and talked while the other dude (the aggressor) had already started a fight with a teen (who was a punk. long story short: no one was in the right or the wrong. all parties were set up by this teen and he didn't have good intentions). So, he knew his opponent was already tired and full of adrenaline.....not controlling his breath, yelling....he knew his opponent would gas out quickly without much pressure.
3) He knew his opponent wouldn't be able to stay calm and was going to react emotionally...making him easy to bait into a trap.
The aggressor is fighting the teen and the defender, obviously, tells him to stop putting hands on kids. he then invites the aggressor to hit him if he wants to fight somebody. the aggressor yells, takes the bait and starts storming the defender. the defender squared up and left on leg out a bit....then feinted an overhand right. the aggressor immediately took the bait and went for a double leg takedown, but he only got one leg while the defender pulled him down and tried to pull guard, but was still on his back with the aggressor in a low mount.
...the defender, however, employed that reach advantage, held the aggressor's head with on hand and beat the soul out of him with the other. after awhile, dude on top was swinging and hitting the ground while dude on the bott had him by the throat, holding him up, about to knock him out.
.....it worked out in the end but that's one example, albeit anecdotal.
5:36 or so....yep. just like that.
Hello,
I have just begun BJJ in the U.K.
I've had about 8 sessions. I find my self running out of energy at the end of the 1hr sessions, especially during the sparring at the end. I just don't have any more fight left in me.
Any tips on how to conserve me energy during a fight and increase my stamina?
Thanks! (great channel btw!)
Do more cardio
Nice video dude
That's the reason why chokes and leg locks will be so much more efficent than wrist and arm locks. If a guy passes out, he's not gonna keep fighting. If a guy breaks his leg, he can still fight on the ground but not standing up, and he can't follow you.
"We got into something more than we think we... than we could chew off."
And you were doinv so well. XD
This is where the not so trendy japanese Jiu-Jitsu/Ju-Jutsu comes in.
Us BJJ guys... are all part of a big family! Instant comrades, everywhere I go.
However, my experience with wrestlers is a little bit different? They seem to be a bit more high strung?
Let me put it this way... On several different occasions, I've seen wrestlers start unnecessary fights at parties? But, I've never seen a BJJ guy get aggressive, unless it was completely unavoidable.
Chad 😂
Rhowski I know I was looking at him the whole time lol!
Good shit.
A gi is just a shirt that doesn't rip After every technique.
Very helpful, thank you! Hopefully I will never need it. Excellent instructions.
There are loads of videos of strikers knocking out up to three or even four people single handed. But I’m with you on everything else, but it’s a huge misconception that once you’re outnumbered your only option is to run as sometimes you don’t have that. Even basic boxing goes a long way
"This the way it's gone happen" that's how you know your about to hurt somebody lol
Great video guys i subscribed right away 👍🏻
Chad carried the video without saying one word 😂
Keep the ramble...makes more human.gr8 advice
Hey Chewy has anyone ever told you that you sound just like Dane Cook?! Thanks for the video👍🏻👍🏻
Good teaching
“I like to focus on chokes , thats me”
If these chokes don't work you can always try the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique from Kill Bill.
Bro, Dan blizarian stole your look!
Nice!! I was just discussing this at my school. :-) I teach the students not to put the leg over the face for an armbar. In the military they teach us to bite legs, arms and chest when we can.
Good evening Prof.Chewy
Many thanks for yet another GREAT post. You guys ROCK! Or more appropriately ROLL! 🤣
Thanks again for your response to getting back to Jiu Jitsu AFTER a major surgery. Soon it’ll happen.
I know that you’ve said it before, please forgive, I’m not that bright, but WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED AT PLEASE?
There are so many BJJ/GRAPPLING sites online to watch and I’m sure many are great. That said, I truly do enjoy and appreciate the work that you and Prof. Beast put forth. It would be my delight and my privilege to make my way ‘ down south ‘ in the fall/autumn for a little training vacation at your academy.
Thanks again Prof. Chewy & Prof. Beast.
One Love from Toronto
Peace
P.S.
My name is Dave or David NOT the RUclips moniker that you see.
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Steve MacInnis
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As a form bouncer these are great tips for bar or club type situations
The rambling at the end was awesome hahah
Excellent video! Need to drill these again and again and again.
0:45 lol this reminded me of the first time bjj was useful in a street fight for me.
Drunk fight, I was 17, he was 17-20, we went to each other and instantly entered a kind of over-under position. Then I asked if he did bjj and he told me yes, I told him I also did, then he immediately got my back and threw me to the ground. It was a legit bjj-only street fight, it was short tho, I was a white belt and he felt more like a purple belt.
I’m saying bjj was useful for me bc even tho I lasted only like 5 minutes, he never punched me, and he respected the tap (rear naked choke) and didn’t put me to sleep. I really doubt he would have done that if I was just a random jerk asking for a nap (which I prob was) that didn’t know bjj.
I think that another reason why people who train are less likely to get into fights is because you realize from your academy that anyone could be able to fight. There are old people, fat people, or short young women who train where I am who can really fight. Nonetheless, I agree with Chewy that the belligerent, aggressive bipolar types rarely train, otherwise, they would get all that aggression out during their training.
Hey for me personally I don't kno if it's psychological or if it really does have more maneuverability but I personally love wearing MMA shorts or athletic shorts when I grapple...Are you selling the chewjitsu shorts? I'd love to wear those I'm my gym ya know
Chewy! Where is your studio?? I want to come visit some day!
It is important for students of jujitsu to know that a jury of your peers (likely with no understanding of BJJ ) would consider a Rear Naked Choke, or any choke, for that matter, to be a lethal use of force.
In a court of law, it is important to know where a reasonable person draws the line between nonlethal use of force and lethal use of force, and when you can legally use it.
If your opponent is carrying a weapon, and you escalate the flight from non-lethal mutual combat to lethal use of force by attempting a choke of any kind, a jury would likely consider your opponent’s use of his weapon( knife or a gun) to be reasonable under the circumstances.
Lethal use of force also includes BJJ techniques like arm bars, or knee bars or any hold that will likely result in serious injury.
Most states expect you to attempt to retreat from all fights, if you expect to claim self defense. Even in stand your ground states, your self defense must be deemed reasonable and proportionate, before you get to claim self defense. Most jurors would wonder if retreat was possible, why didn’t you use that as a means to end the altercation. Stand your ground or not. Retreat is always deemed reasonable if you can.
If your first defensive technique is lethal use of force and you kill or maime your opponent you WILL go to jail. If your opponent stabs/shoots you while you are choking him will likely go free.
To see how an MMA killer should handle himself, watch Matt Sierra in a restaurant scuffle.
Chewy I am new to BJJ and I love your videos! I have used your techniques in class (to the best of my current ability) and had some success. If you were closer, I'd bring you a 6 pack. What's your fav beer, btw?
Thank you chewy
I live in Utah where we wear a jacket 6-8 months out of the year. Gi chokes are essential. So is the drunk uncle defense, lol.
Chewy, the destroyer of chads
8:15 ahahahaaha chads the man as well
Can you do a video Chewy on defending a standing rear naked choice on the street? Also, can you go over the defense on it and how your height plays in defending and applying the rear naked choke on the street. Thanks.
2nd move is great, first move is risky. If you grab and leave your arm there (just for a second) the other guy can pak sau with his left hand (in your demonstration) among other moves, knock you off center and you are in serious trouble.
I love you guys. Nothing like brotherly love xD
Lmao him waking up from the rnc was the highlight of the video.
Chad is such a chad
So... I am not good at this. When you choke someone does he go to sleep or do you make him unconscious?
Doddo depends, if it’s a windpipe choke, the brain doesn’t get oxygen and can go unconscious but if it’s a blood choke, like a rear naked, it cuts off blood to the brain which also puts someone unconscious. So to answer your question, people go unconscious not to sleep. Going to sleep is a term for knocking someone out weather by a choke or punches.
@@Rrevolutions Thanks for the answer.
Another question: Wouldn't he swallow his tongue, then?
@@domonkosludvig3314 There is a risk they could swallow their tongue, this is why it is good to stick them in the recovery position.
With that said, even if they do it is not your fault or your problem at the end of the day.
I don't know how it works where you are, but for example over here in the UK we have a thing we sometimes refer to as ''secondary injury as a result of your own actions.''
This comes from a multitude of legal doctrines and case laws but one good example would be a legal doctrine called *Ex turpi causa non oritur actio,* (From a dishonourable cause an action does not arise). That basically means that the plaintiff cannot pursue legal remedy against someone for something that arose from his own illegal act.
_You try to stab me and in defence I break your arm, you cannot sue me for breaking your arm_
@@Jonesykins Yeah we have this too. I thank both of you, for taking the time to tell me this.
That was good info guys 👍
"Works like a charm" is the weirdest saying since charms don't work for shit. 😄