I think the TL:DR was that Sam could've teleported to their destination, but used a charge on the staff for something else so when he found out there weren't enough charges.
basically, sam was looking through his items and saw the teleport staff. he tells laura that he "could have done something else". she asked "other than the hole". he saids "I could have just teleported us." then you can hear the next bit ("why the fuck ect ect") he then says" I thoought I didn't know anyone on the moon but forgot they been there like 7 times". Marisha asked" do you have to know where to teleport", sam says no. Laura knows that they can't do it now because using misty step counts as using 1 of the charges. The staff has 7 charges? and to move the entire party you need all the charges cause it's 1 charge per person or something like that. anyway, sam asks why didn't they talk about it, laura says because we are dumb as fuck. Liam asked about the charges ashley catches on. then Ashley asks can they just do it now ect ect you can hear the rest.
Campaign 1 Sam: Smart enough to pretend to fuck up his turn just so he can counterspell Vecna without Matt seeing it coming. Campaign 2 Sam: Drinks Eldermancy cocktail for the bit. Campaign 3 Sam: Forgets he can teleport despite doing it multiple times before. The moral of the story is clear. Eldermancy, not even once.
honestly im happy he forgot - teleporting blindly on enemy territory is a bad idea... sure he could theoretically teleport to the city and land in the laps of the enemies if they need it to get back home, im almost fairly sure theyll have at least one long rest bc i doubt theyll accomplish everything they need without having one long rest
No, it's not. Just teleport a mile in any direction and a mile up into the sky, then cast Feather Fall. Before you fall back into enemies attack range, you will have enough time to activate wind walk and fly away.
Given the fact that the moon is like another earth/planet, I highly doubt they are all evil. So that will give them more than enough places to have a long rest. And also they still have Ira who was meeting with more of the Rilaurens, so it is obvious there is at least one other faction that isn't the ones teamed up with Ludinous.
well legit anywhere but where they were would have been better lmao, FCG could have just glanced at a surrounding mountain and been like *boop* "we're there now"
@@iceman3317 i dont doubt that there are safe places on the moon, i sincerely doubt their luck in landing there - and you know im ok with not being with Ira, we dont trust Ira anyways
Thing as well though, Kiki cast the cloud travel on them too. It lasts 8 hours and can be done at will. So they could have travelled all through the camp at the Malleous Key, and then up the bridge as mist, and avoided everything.
Did it come up that they could ride the bridge as clouds? 'Cause Matt warned them not to go into the storm as clouds, I think the bridge would fuck them up.
And where would they teleport? They don’t know or even have any particular destination, they would have likely teleported to a random location on the Ruidus and wasted more time getting back on track
EXACTLY i think the party acquitted themselves well in this instance! Teleporting was such a big risk, they could have landed in the laps of the enemy for all they knew!! Just learn the lay of the land before blindling teleporting there first!!
They saw the city on the moon they could have teleported there. Cause that is their destination. They are at least going to long rest once or twice on the moon. So it was the perfect time to use it. But the other issue is if they teleport they could end up in another bad situation.
@@Ecdecd34 Honestly, they've probably completely forgotten about Ira being on the moon. They've completely forgotten a lot of NPCs. Green Cloaks and the Airship Crew for one.
simply out of, arguably the most fortified position on that celestial body lmao, legit a surrounding mountain would have been fine, TP'ing out as an exit strategy was brought up by the hell's and Alura and Percy and such several times lmao.
The why is because he simply forgot that he could've teleport everyone away the moment they landed on the moon with the staff(or thought he couldn't on Ruidus). But once he remembered he had already used charges on the pass wall spell and didn't have enough for teleport anymore.
@@FlorentiusIV The Teleport was their way out, when they get back to Exandria. As far as they know, the only way back from the moon is the Bloody Bridge, which will drop them right back in bad guy city central, without any allies causing a distraction or giving them cover, so they needed a way to escape fast. Now they may need to long rest on the moon, which also means they will run out of their Anti-Scry protection.
@@Keyatzinoh but theyre not cover the moon in a single day! they can absolutely have the opportunity to recover those charges - at the very least two long rests those boons were never going to last them this whole trip - it was optimism on the side of foolhardy to think theyd get all they needed done without having one long rest
@@Keyatzin the ended last stream preparing to settle down for a long rest since everyone was near out of spells and it was getting late. They have the entire moon to explore, they'll take a few days on it for sure
@@adoragrayskull They really can't afford to explore the entire moon. The mission is infiltration/ information gathering, behind enemy lines and extraction back through an enemy stronghold. They're already being hunted. When their scry protection runs out, they're on a ticking clock. And the longer they spend on Ruidus, the more time the bad guys have to set up more defenses for both sides of the Bridge; which again, as far as anyone knows, is their only way back. More than 1 long rest, I'd say would be pushing it; but it's probably what they'll end up doing. haha
I don't think it's the responsibility he doesn't like, he had pretty heavy responsibilities before. I just think his spell list is not optimal specially since he didn't want to get the same spells as the last THREE clerics. Like, he put himself in a terrible predicament
@@adoragrayskull Or they're just prioritizing fun/weird builds over optimal ones since they're a party of 7, sometimes 8 players. And good for'em: DMing for 7-8 optimizing players would be a nightmare.
@@20thoughts sam is not though. All I said is what he himself said in an interview. He didn't want to choose any of the spells that were "characteristic" of previous clerics. Guiding bolt for Pike, bless/bane for cad or any really attack heavy like jester's. But that way he is left with no good spells. Watch 4sided dive, it's truly enlightening. He expresses his frustration with not knowing yet how to play a cleric, and specially, how to play HIS cleric since he made everything so unnecessarily hard for himself lol
@@adoragrayskullwell, he’s pretty much stuck, then. Before Imogen, the only class they hadn’t used was Sorcerer and that was probably because of Orion. If they decide to do a fourth campaign on the same scale, he’s either going to be a ranger (without an animal companion) or one of the Bloodhunter subclasses they haven’t done yet (which will basically make him a Witcher).
I could heard the dial-up modem noise in his brain!
1:53
RUclips won't let me comment, so I'll leave it here: this is episode 83, not 84. Had me thinking I missed an episode 😅
Bro I can’t hear their whispers I need subtitles 😭 the automatic ones only pick up the people loudly talking 😢
I think the TL:DR was that Sam could've teleported to their destination, but used a charge on the staff for something else so when he found out there weren't enough charges.
basically, sam was looking through his items and saw the teleport staff. he tells laura that he "could have done something else". she asked "other than the hole". he saids "I could have just teleported us." then you can hear the next bit ("why the fuck ect ect") he then says" I thoought I didn't know anyone on the moon but forgot they been there like 7 times". Marisha asked" do you have to know where to teleport", sam says no. Laura knows that they can't do it now because using misty step counts as using 1 of the charges. The staff has 7 charges? and to move the entire party you need all the charges cause it's 1 charge per person or something like that. anyway, sam asks why didn't they talk about it, laura says because we are dumb as fuck. Liam asked about the charges ashley catches on. then Ashley asks can they just do it now ect ect you can hear the rest.
@@piper67890able thank you 😩🙏
Campaign 1 Sam: Smart enough to pretend to fuck up his turn just so he can counterspell Vecna without Matt seeing it coming.
Campaign 2 Sam: Drinks Eldermancy cocktail for the bit.
Campaign 3 Sam: Forgets he can teleport despite doing it multiple times before.
The moral of the story is clear. Eldermancy, not even once.
Moral of the story is Bard
Moral of the story is everyone fucks up 😂
Also Campaign 2: Forgets how sneak attack works and kills his ally as a result
honestly im happy he forgot - teleporting blindly on enemy territory is a bad idea... sure he could theoretically teleport to the city and land in the laps of the enemies
if they need it to get back home, im almost fairly sure theyll have at least one long rest bc i doubt theyll accomplish everything they need without having one long rest
No, it's not. Just teleport a mile in any direction and a mile up into the sky, then cast Feather Fall. Before you fall back into enemies attack range, you will have enough time to activate wind walk and fly away.
@@malrok5452 well now we're falling for our enemies and thats whole different kinda game
Given the fact that the moon is like another earth/planet, I highly doubt they are all evil. So that will give them more than enough places to have a long rest. And also they still have Ira who was meeting with more of the Rilaurens, so it is obvious there is at least one other faction that isn't the ones teamed up with Ludinous.
well legit anywhere but where they were would have been better lmao, FCG could have just glanced at a surrounding mountain and been like *boop* "we're there now"
@@iceman3317 i dont doubt that there are safe places on the moon, i sincerely doubt their luck in landing there - and you know im ok with not being with Ira, we dont trust Ira anyways
Ashley breaking out into singing daddy's hands by Holly dunn is very wholesome.
Thing as well though, Kiki cast the cloud travel on them too. It lasts 8 hours and can be done at will. So they could have travelled all through the camp at the Malleous Key, and then up the bridge as mist, and avoided everything.
Did it come up that they could ride the bridge as clouds? 'Cause Matt warned them not to go into the storm as clouds, I think the bridge would fuck them up.
I feel like there was a warning not to take the bridge in cloud form. I thinking like the movie The Fly
Being a cleric aint so easy is it! 😂
So to save everyone time...an the title is of course misleading, it starts at 1:54
And where would they teleport? They don’t know or even have any particular destination, they would have likely teleported to a random location on the Ruidus and wasted more time getting back on track
EXACTLY i think the party acquitted themselves well in this instance! Teleporting was such a big risk, they could have landed in the laps of the enemy for all they knew!! Just learn the lay of the land before blindling teleporting there first!!
They could’ve gone to where they saw the Nightmare King enter some rocky abode on the moon 💁♀️
They saw the city on the moon they could have teleported there. Cause that is their destination. They are at least going to long rest once or twice on the moon. So it was the perfect time to use it. But the other issue is if they teleport they could end up in another bad situation.
@@Ecdecd34 Honestly, they've probably completely forgotten about Ira being on the moon. They've completely forgotten a lot of NPCs. Green Cloaks and the Airship Crew for one.
simply out of, arguably the most fortified position on that celestial body lmao, legit a surrounding mountain would have been fine, TP'ing out as an exit strategy was brought up by the hell's and Alura and Percy and such several times lmao.
I was tearing my face off the whole time.. I was screaming internally TELEPORT.
I dont understand why he fucked up?
The why is because he simply forgot that he could've teleport everyone away the moment they landed on the moon with the staff(or thought he couldn't on Ruidus). But once he remembered he had already used charges on the pass wall spell and didn't have enough for teleport anymore.
@@FlorentiusIV The Teleport was their way out, when they get back to Exandria. As far as they know, the only way back from the moon is the Bloody Bridge, which will drop them right back in bad guy city central, without any allies causing a distraction or giving them cover, so they needed a way to escape fast. Now they may need to long rest on the moon, which also means they will run out of their Anti-Scry protection.
@@Keyatzinoh but theyre not cover the moon in a single day! they can absolutely have the opportunity to recover those charges - at the very least two long rests
those boons were never going to last them this whole trip - it was optimism on the side of foolhardy to think theyd get all they needed done without having one long rest
@@Keyatzin the ended last stream preparing to settle down for a long rest since everyone was near out of spells and it was getting late. They have the entire moon to explore, they'll take a few days on it for sure
@@adoragrayskull They really can't afford to explore the entire moon. The mission is infiltration/ information gathering, behind enemy lines and extraction back through an enemy stronghold. They're already being hunted. When their scry protection runs out, they're on a ticking clock. And the longer they spend on Ruidus, the more time the bad guys have to set up more defenses for both sides of the Bridge; which again, as far as anyone knows, is their only way back. More than 1 long rest, I'd say would be pushing it; but it's probably what they'll end up doing. haha
Finally all realizing this. I think part of it is Sam isn't comfortable with hia character. He doesn't like the responsibility.
I don't think it's the responsibility he doesn't like, he had pretty heavy responsibilities before. I just think his spell list is not optimal specially since he didn't want to get the same spells as the last THREE clerics. Like, he put himself in a terrible predicament
@@adoragrayskull exactly my point, he put himself in the situation
@@adoragrayskull Or they're just prioritizing fun/weird builds over optimal ones since they're a party of 7, sometimes 8 players. And good for'em: DMing for 7-8 optimizing players would be a nightmare.
@@20thoughts sam is not though. All I said is what he himself said in an interview. He didn't want to choose any of the spells that were "characteristic" of previous clerics. Guiding bolt for Pike, bless/bane for cad or any really attack heavy like jester's. But that way he is left with no good spells. Watch 4sided dive, it's truly enlightening. He expresses his frustration with not knowing yet how to play a cleric, and specially, how to play HIS cleric since he made everything so unnecessarily hard for himself lol
@@adoragrayskullwell, he’s pretty much stuck, then. Before Imogen, the only class they hadn’t used was Sorcerer and that was probably because of Orion. If they decide to do a fourth campaign on the same scale, he’s either going to be a ranger (without an animal companion) or one of the Bloodhunter subclasses they haven’t done yet (which will basically make him a Witcher).