Fue el Eminentísimo Cardenal Gregoire Pierre Agagianian, luego Patriarca de Cilicia y por tanto Arzobispo Primado de los Católicos Romanos de Rito Armenio, y luego Prefecto de la Sagrada Congregación "de Propaganda Fide", Curia Pontificia. Está enterrado en Roma, en la Iglesia de San Nicola da Tolentino de los católicos romano-armenios, que era su Título Cardenalicio.
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
Thanks so much for asking a very intelligent question. There are factions of the Catholic church who feel that the Vatican II conference made changes that produced a church that was way too "liberal." (Things like changing the language of the Mass from Latin to the local language, encouraging nuns not to wear the old-fashioned long bulky habits, easing fasting rules during Lent, and showing "too much" tolerance for LBGTQ people.) Not all Catholics feel this way of course, but the ones who do can be quite vocal. They would like to use a sort of Wayback Machine to restore the world to the condition that was shown in this film.
He was the last real one because the claimant's to the papal throne since Pius XII have not believed as true Catholics and they therefore could not be the head of the Catholic church. It is not a common opinion but as you learn about the Catholic teaching on the papacy it becomes the only reasonable understanding of the situation.
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
@@johnking5174 well in 1958 Pope Pius the 12th died after that Vatican 2 council was introduced and they started to change the mass and you cannot change something that was instituted by Christ himself and they've been doing that since then they've taken away the traditional Latin mass and put their own twist on it changing the words and the literature something that cannot be done because like I said it is instituted by Jesus Christ you cannot change something that he instituted. Hopefully this helps if you need more info please let me know thank you God bless.
@@Catholic647 Very interesting. I am an Anglican, and never really understood this about catholicism. In the Anglican faith, in terms of liturgy, we have a split between those who feel that our liturgy should only be conducted according to the Book of Common Prayer 1662 edition, which is in the old fashion traditional English language. Whereas there are a lot of people who feel the modern English language should be mostly used, using the Common Worship prayerbook in the contemporary language. Not the same as your problems, but a divide is there. This is why the Prayerbook Society was created, to try and maintain useage of the official BCP 1662.
@@johnking5174these heretics are called sedevacantists. They think 2.000 bishop of the Vatican Council II were wrong and they, the sedevacantist heretics like this one, are right. In fact they're not in spiritual communion with the Church. You as a protestant might be closer to them in communion with us Catholics than they are, mainly if you are from a mainstream protestant church like the Lutheran or some reformed one.
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
@@johnking5174 because after Pope Pius XII all his successors gradually disassembled what had reached its glorious climax under Pius XII, who once stated: "After me the deluge." When John XXIII had been elected he asked for his file from the Holy Office where he had been under observation for many years as a suspected Modernist. One of his first acts was to raised Montini, another Modernist to Cardinal. Montini completed the doctrinal demolition of the Catholic Church by promulgating the Decrees of Vatican II and later destroyed the official succession of bishops by imposing the invalid rite of Anglican bishops (declared so by Pope Leo XIII late 1800s) in 1969--even before imposing the protestantized Novus Ordo Missae in 1970. Only a remnant of faithful clergy and laity retain the valid ancient Rites "in the catechombs."
@@timothymckee1412 Well, as someone who was brought up as an Anglican myself, your words about Anglicans doesn't sit well with me sadly. Here I do have to disagree with you. But parking that issue to the side, I do agree with you that many aspects of your church traditions have been changed for the worse. I am from what is known as "High Church Anglicanism" where they kept all the pomp and splendour of the ancient catholic heritage. We have altar rails. We have vestments. We use incense. We chant Latin at some parts of the Eucharist. We believe Christ is present at Holy Communion, we just do not agree on how that presence takes place. We believe at the words of consecration Jesus presence is imparted onto the bread and wine, but not in the manner your church teaches. We do not believe the Eucharist is a sacrifice. When you receive communion in a High Church Anglican setting, you must kneel down at an altar rail, and receive communion on the tongue. So, I hope you understand, that we do take it to heart when you count us as "invalid".
To any Roman Catholic reading this, I have read that your Pope Pius XII changed a great deal in the liturgy of your church. People say Pope Paul VI made great changes after the Second Vatican Council, but Pius XII made a lot of changes too, which many Catholics seem to ignore.
Actually, a sizable amount of us are aware of the changes, especially to that of Holy Week. There is a growing trend among Trads for the so-called Pre-1955 Missal. A lot of Trads actually retained the Pre-1955 Mass after V2 but the negotiations between the Vatican and the SSPX which led to their adoption of the 1962 Missal entailed its eventual supersession of the Pre-1955 among Trad Communities, especially those under Ecclesia Dei and Summorum Pontificum. However, a few years ago, permission was given for the usage of the Pre-1955 Holy Week within the Ecclesia Dei Communities which was taken into full advantage.
Traditionalist catholics, of sedevacantist position (that recognize all popes untill Pious XII) ignore that the pope Pacelli made the First reforms. Even a "left Wing" feast : "st. Joseph the worker", May First, following the civil feast loved by socialists/communist.
@@johnking5174 i had an italian friend in Rome that was about to be Ordeined as anglican Priest. I asked Him if the cerimony would be at the anglican church of Rome (that's a big church). He told me , he was following a different branch of the anglicanism that After 1977 (?) Refused its reforms. I didn't know that also the anglican church suffered schisms. The catholic church had this phenomenon After the Vatican council (1962/65) with the traditionalist mouvement of MR Lefebvre. I attended in the past for a while traditionalist catholics.
"this is mean future pope may well hail from britain,america or since the election of cardinal chien,even china..." get papa montini instead (italian).and after that catholism destroyed🤣🤣
Peor un arriano moderno, una herejía que el Concilio de Nicea había condenado pero todavía hay herejes que siguen creyendo en esta herejia.@@JasonJacksonJames
@@britanniacountryball.8557 The weight of scriptural evidence supports subordinationism, the Son's total submission to the Father, and God's paternal supremacy over the Son in EVERY aspect. Jehovah's Witnesses acknowledge the Son's high rank at God's right hand, but the Father is still GREATER than the Son in all things! Father, Son, and Spirit all participated in creation and salvation, but that in itself does NOT confirm that the three are each co-equal or co-eternal! God is only explicitly identified as "ONE" in the Bible, and the doctrine of the Trinity, which word literally meaning a set of three, ascribes a co-equal threeness to the being of the infinite God that is NOT SCRIPTURAL!
Pius XII, a great and holy pope.
The Last Pope
Beautiful
Always wonderful to see the glory of Rome. Thanks!
In the Name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST...
Amen.
What about mother and daughter?
@@AndyNyle Abeloth?
"Ad maiorem Dei gloriam"!
Glory To God In The Highest...
True Pope, true Cardinals, true Bishops, true Church!
I miss this so much 😢
Good old days.
the Roman Catholic church ned return to old pomp and ceremony before the Second Vatican Council
ojala que Dios haga que estas tradiciones vuelvan a su Santa Iglesia.
🙏🙏🙏
Per secula seculorum: Christus vincit, Christus Rex
2:54 Este era un cardenal del rito Bizantino?
Fue el Eminentísimo Cardenal Gregoire Pierre Agagianian, luego Patriarca de Cilicia y por tanto Arzobispo Primado de los Católicos Romanos de Rito Armenio, y luego Prefecto de la Sagrada Congregación "de Propaganda Fide", Curia Pontificia. Está enterrado en Roma, en la Iglesia de San Nicola da Tolentino de los católicos romano-armenios, que era su Título Cardenalicio.
Muchas gracias por la aclaración @@sfbrotherbrother9367
alguien sabe el nombre del himno que suena en el minuto? 2:15
De no creer que todas estas escenas teatrales hayan sido filmadas en el siglo 20!!°!!!!!!
Es un consistorio donde se crea cardenales de la Iglesia Romana.
Pues es el único siglo -con este- en el que se podían filmar.
Carnival ! (The music is Robert Schumann's op.9)
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
Thanks so much for asking a very intelligent question. There are factions of the Catholic church who feel that the Vatican II conference made changes that produced a church that was way too "liberal." (Things like changing the language of the Mass from Latin to the local language, encouraging nuns not to wear the old-fashioned long bulky habits, easing fasting rules during Lent, and showing "too much" tolerance for LBGTQ people.) Not all Catholics feel this way of course, but the ones who do can be quite vocal. They would like to use a sort of Wayback Machine to restore the world to the condition that was shown in this film.
He was the last real one because the claimant's to the papal throne since Pius XII have not believed as true Catholics and they therefore could not be the head of the Catholic church.
It is not a common opinion but as you learn about the Catholic teaching on the papacy it becomes the only reasonable understanding of the situation.
@@johnbuggy9188Issue is that if there has been no pope on the throne for years, then the previous Vatican I council’s dogmas are also invalid.
Quando la Chiesa era cattolica apostolica romana... e più non dico!
I komu to przeszkadzało
Our last true Pope Pope Pius the 12th 🙏
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
@@johnking5174 well in 1958 Pope Pius the 12th died after that Vatican 2 council was introduced and they started to change the mass and you cannot change something that was instituted by Christ himself and they've been doing that since then they've taken away the traditional Latin mass and put their own twist on it changing the words and the literature something that cannot be done because like I said it is instituted by Jesus Christ you cannot change something that he instituted. Hopefully this helps if you need more info please let me know thank you God bless.
@@Catholic647 Very interesting. I am an Anglican, and never really understood this about catholicism. In the Anglican faith, in terms of liturgy, we have a split between those who feel that our liturgy should only be conducted according to the Book of Common Prayer 1662 edition, which is in the old fashion traditional English language. Whereas there are a lot of people who feel the modern English language should be mostly used, using the Common Worship prayerbook in the contemporary language. Not the same as your problems, but a divide is there. This is why the Prayerbook Society was created, to try and maintain useage of the official BCP 1662.
This is a heresy. You could very well be excommunicated, just like the extremist Vigano. You better review your views.
@@johnking5174these heretics are called sedevacantists. They think 2.000 bishop of the Vatican Council II were wrong and they, the sedevacantist heretics like this one, are right. In fact they're not in spiritual communion with the Church. You as a protestant might be closer to them in communion with us Catholics than they are, mainly if you are from a mainstream protestant church like the Lutheran or some reformed one.
Yes he was the last Prince of Holy Mother Church then the counterfeit church began. The true church is in the catacombs.
As a protestant, I do not understand why some comments on here say that this pope was the last real one. Why is this a view point? Can anyone explain? I thought all popes were linked together by apostolic succession?
@@johnking5174 they're called "sedevacantists" check them out.
@@ritawing1064 Interesting, I had no idea of this.
@@johnking5174 because after Pope Pius XII all his successors gradually disassembled what had reached its glorious climax under Pius XII, who once stated: "After me the deluge." When John XXIII had been elected he asked for his file from the Holy Office where he had been under observation for many years as a suspected Modernist. One of his first acts was to raised Montini, another Modernist to Cardinal. Montini completed the doctrinal demolition of the Catholic Church by promulgating the Decrees of Vatican II and later destroyed the official succession of bishops by imposing the invalid rite of Anglican bishops (declared so by Pope Leo XIII late 1800s) in 1969--even before imposing the protestantized Novus Ordo Missae in 1970. Only a remnant of faithful clergy and laity retain the valid ancient Rites "in the catechombs."
@@timothymckee1412 Well, as someone who was brought up as an Anglican myself, your words about Anglicans doesn't sit well with me sadly. Here I do have to disagree with you. But parking that issue to the side, I do agree with you that many aspects of your church traditions have been changed for the worse. I am from what is known as "High Church Anglicanism" where they kept all the pomp and splendour of the ancient catholic heritage. We have altar rails. We have vestments. We use incense. We chant Latin at some parts of the Eucharist. We believe Christ is present at Holy Communion, we just do not agree on how that presence takes place. We believe at the words of consecration Jesus presence is imparted onto the bread and wine, but not in the manner your church teaches. We do not believe the Eucharist is a sacrifice. When you receive communion in a High Church Anglican setting, you must kneel down at an altar rail, and receive communion on the tongue. So, I hope you understand, that we do take it to heart when you count us as "invalid".
Kardynal clemens August von galen
21 luty 1946 ....kardynałowie
Go bye bye!!
To any Roman Catholic reading this, I have read that your Pope Pius XII changed a great deal in the liturgy of your church. People say Pope Paul VI made great changes after the Second Vatican Council, but Pius XII made a lot of changes too, which many Catholics seem to ignore.
Actually, a sizable amount of us are aware of the changes, especially to that of Holy Week. There is a growing trend among Trads for the so-called Pre-1955 Missal. A lot of Trads actually retained the Pre-1955 Mass after V2 but the negotiations between the Vatican and the SSPX which led to their adoption of the 1962 Missal entailed its eventual supersession of the Pre-1955 among Trad Communities, especially those under Ecclesia Dei and Summorum Pontificum. However, a few years ago, permission was given for the usage of the Pre-1955 Holy Week within the Ecclesia Dei Communities which was taken into full advantage.
@@justiniand6a788 Most Holy Trinity Seminary and priests retain the pre 55 holy week.
Traditionalist catholics, of sedevacantist position (that recognize all popes untill Pious XII) ignore that the pope Pacelli made the First reforms. Even a "left Wing" feast : "st. Joseph the worker", May First, following the civil feast loved by socialists/communist.
@@Κύμη As an Anglican, born and raised, I do watch and read about your church with interest
@@johnking5174 i had an italian friend in Rome that was about to be Ordeined as anglican Priest. I asked Him if the cerimony would be at the anglican church of Rome (that's a big church). He told me , he was following a different branch of the anglicanism that After 1977 (?) Refused its reforms. I didn't know that also the anglican church suffered schisms.
The catholic church had this phenomenon After the Vatican council (1962/65) with the traditionalist mouvement of MR Lefebvre. I attended in the past for a while traditionalist catholics.
"this is mean future pope may well hail from britain,america or since the election of cardinal chien,even china..."
get papa montini instead (italian).and after that catholism destroyed🤣🤣
Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini
@@junesilvermanb2979 Pope Paul ‘Destroyer of the Church’ Montini. How fitting he should be a Francis-Saint.
No, it is not.
Quelle simplicité !!! 😂
Her and her shiny gold mitre.
What are you implying? Mm?💀
The pope does not exist in the Bible.
Es solo un titulo, pero la biblia si menciona como Jesús le dio la autoridad a los Obispos de Roma de gobernar la Iglesia Cristiana.
MEN HAVE NOT THE CAPACITY TO HIVE IN THIS WAY, ITS A CORRUPT RITUAL
Nadie te obliga a ver el video. Así era sus cerrmonias de antes.
who asks
idolatry
Protestante detectado.
@@britanniacountryball.8557 I'm not a protestant I'm a JW
Peor un arriano moderno, una herejía que el Concilio de Nicea había condenado pero todavía hay herejes que siguen creyendo en esta herejia.@@JasonJacksonJames
@@britanniacountryball.8557 The weight of scriptural evidence supports subordinationism, the Son's total submission to the Father, and God's paternal supremacy over the Son in EVERY aspect.
Jehovah's Witnesses acknowledge the Son's high rank at God's right hand, but the Father is still GREATER than the Son in all things!
Father, Son, and Spirit all participated in creation and salvation, but that in itself does NOT confirm that the three are each co-equal or co-eternal!
God is only explicitly identified as "ONE" in the Bible, and the doctrine of the Trinity, which word literally meaning a set of three, ascribes a co-equal threeness to the being of the infinite God that is NOT SCRIPTURAL!
St Peter's is a basilica.