Why The NEW 2024 Canyon Aeroad Might Be The END Of Exciting Aero Road Bikes
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Ridden and rated: The NEW 2024 Canyon Aeroad CFR with Sram Red AXS. Canyon claim that the new Aeroad is the fastest bike in the Tour de France peloton, we take a look at what's changed and whether it really is in contention to be one of 2024's best road race bikes.
Mathieu Van der Poel and Jasper Phillipsen have already been putting their new aero bike to good use. Here's our review as well as a chat about whether modern aero bikes are just a bit boring.
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Canyon should offer more customization. No option to select crank length, stem length, gears [only a 10-30 cassette option (SRAM) and no mention what the size of the chainrings are]. The flared drops should be selectable as well. They offer good value but if you have to replace all those parts (some of which are proprietary) it will set you back as much as the SL8, Dogma, Madone, ..., but you'd at least have the bike that fits you best!
To be fair, that would be a logistical challenge. You would need to stock tons of parts at the distribution center instead of at their HQ in Germany, and would need to train up lots of more techs at those centers. It would greatly drive up the prices unfortunately. But I agree, this is why I’m not buying a canyon anytime soon, I would need to change out lots of the parts to get my fit and it would be cheaper to go the frameset route.
@@ynie1 Brands such as Orbea and Ridley offer it, to some sort of degree, I admit, but still. Fair enough, they cost a little more but then you wouldn't need to spend any more.
@@Jackster596 Orbea and ridley both cost +€1000 more in a similar spec. Canyon clearly goes for best value. Not everyone wants to cherry pick their components wich obviously is working for canyon.
@@wouter6053 If you're cashing out €10k for a bike, you should... :)
Per rep. Canyon is going to offer more customization in 2025, just like Orbea does
If they allow customers to choose the stem length and crank-arm length (or make the damn stem easily changeable) they'd sell way more of these. Would also be nice to be choose chainring and size, cassette size, and rear der cage type
They should swtich to finishing assembly when bikes are ordered. It doesn't need to add much cost if they do it right - and might actually reduce their costs rather than increasing
We don't care about them sticking some 3M Couch leg floor protector pads onto the forks 😂
Just had a chat with Canyon about not being able to change the stem of the Endurace. It's a deal breaker for me.
You can change the crank arm length and chainrings. Although it would be easier to order the bike with what you want for those options. We all have preferences for crank length and rings.
What is really boring about this bike is the color. So tired of dull, gun metal, primer grey paint. Jeesh!
Totally agree - give me some colour please... cars too!
The colours that Canyon offers are underground. You are already forced to take black or white.
Why would any buy a BMW vehicle, or any vehicle, painted in grey primer gloss?
Have it painted the color that you like. People do it all of the time.
A bit clickbaity title, but good conclusion. They just updated an already really good bike. This just shows that besides weight, there is not much left within the current UCI rules. Updates like the rubber bumpers, torx bolts everywhere, clip on TT bars, rear light mount are just all welcome changes for us amateurs.
And they added the torx 25 bit onto the through axle lever, so no need for a separate tool, a nice little easter egg.
Do like your down to earth approach. Solid review.
Dropout protector: BMC URS. First closed off thru axles: BMC Teammachine SLR01.
Are you a fan of the new Aeroad? Let us know your thoughts on it here!
Not really. Much too expensive for a company with a direct to customer business. I would prefer a BMC, Specialized, Pinarello.
Not being able to choose crank arm and stem length puts me off buying one.
A big benefit of the new cockpit is that it's now easy to put clip on aerobar for triathlons
These mythical cockpit-compatible aerobars have never appeared on sale as far as I can tell.
They were available and in stock on canyons Canadian website last I checked.
@@willishuang3660100%. You can order in Germany
@@willishuang3660GTC just did a video on them & they are stupidly impressive
So now an integrated cockpit has width adjustment, and stack adjustment, now the only thing missing is stem length adjustment. A telescopic like system is probably in the making right now.
More moving parts mean more cracking noises over time
@@myjourneythroughlife2469 Depends how they will pull it off, anything wears eventually and needs to be replaced. Convenience often have additional cost as you rightfully pointed out.
Or like, the system that has existed for decades?
Great! It almost sounds like we're to focus on the riding again rather than the gear
Wish they offered it in frame/fork.
Agreed!
Maybe they will do so later like with the old aeroad
There's something about last version that makes it more classy. Not a fan of the glassy finish and mirror decals. Last head tube looked much nicer. Cleaner bars. And yeah, default should be aero flares on an aero focused bike.
Jamie's reviews are always exciting even if the bike isn't so much. I'd take one if banks (other than mine) are (unwillingly) giving up their content however.
BMC teammachine 01 was the first with most of these things you mention :)
great vid, and bike. In all fairness, the price they are selling this is even lower than it might seem. Nearly all those other "equivalent" bikes come with inferior wheels. Love them or hate them, but Zipp454s are arguably at the peak of available production wheelsets costing $4200USD retail, add another $4200 for a Red groupset with PM, then the other accessories and you're almost getting a frame for free.
the Zipp wheel are not from canyon it's his personnal wheel it's DT swiss ARC 1100 in the original montage still really good whell but not the zipps one
@@buenox1414 Respectfully, that's not true. I think its going to depend on which country you are in. In the USA, the top end SRAM Red Aeroad does come stock with 454's and that build is in stock selling for $10,499USD. It can be quite frustrating seeing Canyon selling preferred builds or paint colors in other countries that they refuse to import/sell to your own country. For example, Canyon does not offer that clip on bar accessory for this or the Grail and has no plans to sell it, but I can cross the border to Canada and buy that same accessory and historically in the USA they have only offered plain black when other countries have more colorful options for the same groupset.
@@kestralrider313 Ok didnt know that in Europe it's only DT Swiss wheel
I know who Canyon is going to quote in their next marketing material.
Hontestly I don't see a problem with it, you can't improve something forever, especially under a set of rules. Good thing is that older bikes are just as good unless you're doing a Tour the Fance and they'll be way more affordable simply because they're an older model
I just got a new CF SLX, after two years on the predecessor, also a CF SLX. The new one is better in every possible way. Most notably more comfortable. The 28 Pirellis are more comfy than the 30 Corsa Pros I had on its predecessor. A very smooth, fast, comfortable bike. Someone asked below about large thighs. My 80cm thighs don't rub anything. I got an M because I have long femurs. Only change I needed was bolting on some Force crankarms in 165. 200 Euros later, and done. Lots of talk and speculation in the comments, just thought word from someone who has one might help. Thanks.
I was just fixing to say "Looks almost the exact same as a 2017 model" and that was just because I picked a year at random since we all know the road bike frame has had a bit over a century to improve and for all intents and purposes it hasn't.
They took out the seat tube and the UCI made them put it back, so what do you want them to do?
@@proffate They should put golf dimples on the front of the seat tube, then little finlets, and finally wax the whole seat tube. In the marketing brochures then can glossy up the verbage with a handsome man with perfect teeth and a mean scowl in a $17,000 skin suit, with a claim that it saves "1 watt *".
And at the bottom behind the "*".... "when ridden in a swirling 17kph crosswind on a 3% slope on a cloudless weekday in a month ending in "t" with a 62kg bald rider."
Good looking but I wouldn’t buy one with hookless Zipps…or hookless anything. Canyon need to adapt their model to allow customers to spec a choice of wheels.
The zipp rims that canyon uses aren’t hookless. Zipp produces hooked rims for Canyon. I have one, and also have 3 sets of zipp hookless rims, all have been flawless. Just saying.
Hookless is great. Nothing wrong with it. You shouldn't let the youtube personalities scare you so much. You're turning into a sheep.
@@roadcyclist1 it’s nothing to do with RUclips. It’s physics. The only benefit to hookless is ease of manufacture, which is of no benefit to me as a rider (especially as the cost savings aren’t passed on). Sounds like you’re the one with sheep tendencies.
@@skidooboondocker I didn’t know zipp still made hooked rims; I thought they’d planted their flag firmly on ‘hookless hill’.
@@mt5150e only for Canyon, which is why all their bikes ship with tubed tires.
Yeah, weight savings is where Canyon did some hand waving, there isn't much improvement over the Gen3 Aeroad. By design, though. Canyon engineers say they just couldn't pull more weight out without being uncomfortable with robustness and safety. So idk, I think it's ok.
What about the Torx bit that’s part of the thruaxle handle?
While I dont think there is a lot of improvements that will be done in form of aerodynamics on the bikes, there is definitely room for improvement on even the latest bikes like this Canyon. Like ease of maintenance, adjustability, customisation. Tyre clearance of 32mm already seems too small the bigger tyre trend. And in addition I would want the weight to be even lower as 7,1kg is excluding pedals, computers etc.
Nah 32 is plenty. People don't want longer forks and chain stays just to benefit some weirdo trying to use a road bike for gravel.
Looks like your chain is too short mate !
Thanks for all your work btw !!
I was thinking the same! But I guess he did that to increase the tension and, probably, reduce the chance of dropping chain on the front chainrings. I am actually about to do the same on my SRAM equipped Cube Aero.
@@kpsig Please don't do that!!! Your back derailleur is not made to support that tension! Just do a good setting on the transmission !
@@hoim75 To be honest, I just finished a limit screws setup, bringing this to the limit. Still, I am thinking of removing one chain link (two, actually). Nevertheless, the setup on the video looks very wrong, I agree with you.
Agreed, it is a bit short, this is how the review bike arrived and it wasn’t bad enough to swap the chain out for a fresh one. Although it works we would personally add another link or two to be comfortable
Oh boy i can already hear Hambini
Who cares what he has to say? He is taking advantage of lemmings.
Fixes up the funky looking front end from the last iteration. I'll take one if you're offering
your man here, I think, is just jealous they flew GCN's man to Koblenz and therefore couldn't go full gush. both reviews are still great ads for Canyon...
The new CFR being heavier than the old one--all things considered equal--is boring. The red and white colourways on the new SLX model are boring as hell too. I'll stick with my 2024 silver Aeroad SLX 8, thanks.
Strangely, the seat post and cockpit issues of the Aeroad models from previous years are not mentioned here. Are they even fixed for good?
Buying a Canyon bike might result in having a bike you cannot ride for >6 months, including massive battles with customer support.
They fixed those issues with this model
@@roadcyclist1how do you know? No one has ridden this bike for more than some weeks. Too early to say.
@@l.d.t.6327 because I own this model and they stated it was fixed
I apologise for the mistake in hearing the weight and that is an impressive weight for an aero bike👍👍 Of course the price is like a sledgehammer to the foot ⚽s but it is significantly cheaper than all the other brands, so buying the other brands could be likened to a wrecking Ball to the ⚽ s 😂😂
SLX version looks to be the version to go for but Canyon ditched the cheapest SL version for this generation :(
Orca Aero is still better, plus you get to fully customize it at no extra cost.
Orca is a babe of a bike ! I was on one last weekend as my friend tried my Milani Icon !
orca is better in what way?
Orca Aero is 1 kg heavier
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
How much of a difference would it be to get this, with the 105 DI2 instead of Ultegra DI2?
Minimal. If you test them side by side but not if you use them individual. I went from Di2 Ultegra to Di2 Dura Ace and the price difference is too much that I will do it again. I recently used the new Di2 105 and it's such a sweet spot of price value.
Less problem with levers brake/functionality and button on top of lever. A Good compromise it's rear/front Derailleur 105, lever/Brake/pedalier ultegra.
What I find odd is that so many non racing club riders , or riders who don't even ride with a club, buy these expensive hard to maintain aero bikes. It's like buying a formulae 1 car for the commute to work.
Exactly, and the real aero effect is marginal at best
Custom crank arm length and stem length, otherwise not interested. They're leaving behind lots of potential clients that are between sizes
I have dropout protectors on a 2017 Merida Scultura 400 SE.
Nice colour and looks sleeker than the outgoing one
If you spend that much, how do you not know what bars you like? The idea one can spend more to make the bars flare and that I've already spent more so I can adjust the width. Kidding me. E.g. I don't spend more to buy cranks that can be adjusted. I just buy the right size.
I just receive mine and I have a cracking noise on the Seat post . It seem that it's untighten After 10 min ride .
Very underwhelming update imo and many of the bikes have a dated design now. I have the ultimate and waited for this release but it seems to be a waste of time, the scott foil RC and orbea orca aero are both better looking bikes imo and will probably be my next purchase unless Canyon reduce the price for this release. Glad to see they did away with the staggered depth wheels for the XS/S sizes, or at least it looks that way for now........
More of a evolution than revolution
Love this review🎉
Would definitely be tempted by the slx
Maybe its the end exciting CANYON aero road bikes... but there is still the Scott Foil, Dare Velocity Ace, Cervélo S5, Ribble Ultra SLR, and many more. Lots of cool, exciting, unapologetically aero bikes out there.
Please review 3T strada italia 2024
Great means the previous version will be available cheaper 🎉
Most successful was base on 2016 models, this models should have been upgraded to a more lighter 2024 carbon material.
I prefed the Scott Foil
Let me guess more aero, stiffer, save watts 😂 I can’t wait to see what they say about the new S Works.
These new aero Bikes aren’t great in cross winds.
This or the scott foil for 2025?
Aero road bike end with last Venge stop production. How many bike now follow the same design to Venge. And its from 2019😂
Or buy the Aeroad cf slx 7 you don't need that 1kg weight advantage if you're not a pro
Never buy a first generation bike, canyon really dropped the ball on the 2020 aeroad. It has a really loud creaking and ticking coming from the seatpost and you can’t fix it. I feel the vibration through my handlebars and it’s so loud I can hear it over my headphones. I’ve contacted canyon several times and they send me non-fixes. They really should have replaced my frame with the newer gen (not the 2024, but the 2022 seatpost fix).
this is hardly the first generation, its honestly closer to the 3rd gen then a gen of its own. Shouldn't have any problems with handlebar or seat post considering the design is almost identical to the outgoing gen and they eventually got that working well.
Nah , Dare's soon to be released new velocity ace is far more mental.
disc for dirt, rim for road enough said
Such a beautiful bike.
Hi, does someone know if they changed their seatpost (which had some problems) ?
The seatpost and seatpost clamp have both been revised
Boring ? I don't think so. It got better!
They’re going for evolution rather than revolution. Bit like the 911 Porsche
How wide exactly is the new top tube? Asking for my fellow cyclists who have thighs. (Also, do you have frame only pricing)
Did not measure, but as a retired track rider now powerlifter I have 80+cm thighs. Nothings rubs anywhere.
So the end of aero bikes is an aero bike that does everything including being aero? And it’s more affordable than similarly speced bikes from other brands. Seems pretty solid all the way around
It’s the end of exciting aero bikes, we can all look forwards to them all looking the same from here on
Like the formula 1 reference. Its 📠
If this is an aero bike, shouldnt the bars be as narrow as possible? Why the flared drops?
The aero position will be on the hoods. if you have made the hoods position narrow, it makes sense to flare the drops for better control on the technical sections when you would use the drops and no bothered about any aero advantage.
@@davemoss6976 Are the drops not also an aero position?
@@michaeldesrosier1068 not really, changing from being tucked in with hands on the hoods to hands on the drops would increase your air resistance more than all the aero changes to the aero frame ,bar shape and hiding cables put together. But being on the drops is better than sitting upright with hands on the top.
Basically, body position and clothing make so much difference that all the supposed aero improvements on the bike are just a money making gimmick for the average rider.
@@davemoss6976 Wait, why? Im just as low and tucked on the drops as I would be on the hoods? Why is it less aerodynamic on drops?
@@michaeldesrosier1068 you are less tucked in on the drops.
I still prefer an orbea ordu or orca
IF bike manufacturers tell you 32mm tires and disc brakes are the way to go You buy it. If aero bikes are the way to go, You buy it. Manufactueres decide what You buy. You no longer have a choice.
50mil wheels just looks so much better than 60
Does the Seatpost squeak on this generation ?
No. The last one didn't either, though after the Canyon fix.
Don't fix if it ain't broken. I am not sure why you want a complete new design for every iteration. Specialized does the same. Sl7 and SL8 are almost exactly the same. You can't bend the rules, you can't bend physics, so why would they change the design completely to deceive people for marketing? Small changes are welcome, new colors, new tech, perhaps, but that is all.
so it's very wise to buy the old one then..cheaper with not much different..
I want one!!!
Riding a bike that looks good is more fun than riding a bike that looks like the most boring piece of wedge shaped carbon on earth.
Beware of buying from Canyon. They have a terrible after sales service.
They refuse to sell a major structural component of the bike like a fork, right after the 3 year replacement service is over, arguing that they have a lack of spare parts. How is it possible not to have a stock of spare parts, right after 3 years?
You're only going to see small changes now as they evolve. No interest in Aero bikes though.
I thought you guys were only interested in E bikes?
when he says SL7 is his favorite. which bike is be talking about? who makes that?
Specialized Tarmac SL7 - There's a better look at it in this video: ruclips.net/video/sPqDyD1wL00/видео.htmlsi=4hyWFuUyiM3PK8xl
@@roadcc ok thank you
great bike
Aero bikes with Alpine gearing, not for me.
That front wheel is a mile away from the downtube but it's aero lol😅😅😅
As proven by the wind tunnel tests and it dominating most of the Tour races this year.
@@roadcyclist1 yeah... Every company says that. More marketing than facts
@jaredfontaine2002 the difference is that canyon released their wind tunnel data where other companies do not. And you can't dispute the bike's dominance in pro peleton this year
@roadcyclist1 If MVDP road a tricycle he would beat everyone. On of the largest causes of drag is the dirty air behind the front wheel.
If you look at aero bikes of old, the front wheel was right next to the downtube.
@@jaredfontaine2002canyon = best engineering. It's German 😘
Finding a buyer in the resale market will be a challenge with a fixed stem length.
You are a race ace on this bike. Very fast. With even a low-ish ftp of 200 W, you will be near 20 mph average on your rides. If you have 250 or 300 W, pedal that much power on this bike and you are FLYING.
All extremely boring color options except for the CFR models at €10k … no customisation, … the price vs competitors is still good but you might as well pump out a little more for a well fitting bike that’s not this boring.
Don't buy this one! Buy the Cube that Biniam Girmay is riding :)
thanks for wearing shorts, like all men probably should when not sitting on the bike
If only you could buy one from Canyon lol
You can. It's super easy.
@@roadcyclist1 really? Show me it’s available in all sizes and all spec levels please
The marketing team all lost their jobs on Monday after the best placed rider on one was 4h and 44min behind the winner 😂😂😂
all bikes are the same, what did you mean boring? what is not boring?
"Suplime"
So how much did Canyon pay for this ad?
It isnt an Aero-Bike!
It’s the same bike, guys 😂
Giant propel Advanced pro is made rather old fashioned way and it's really fast bike. I have it. So canyon and other manufacturers may not be right in every thing. Previous version of aeroad is actually much slower than Giant.
how do you know about old version of aeroad beeing slower than propel??
@@lilfinesse I've seen video in RUclips. There was some third bike also. I don't remember who made it but it was one of these cycling channels like GCN etc.
@@toivotek check wind tunnel ranking of german tour magazine, Aeroad 204 W vs. Propel 209 W ..
Drops that come off😮? Getting ready for the product recall already and the need to hire a decent lawyer
Why? It's user error if they forgot to install it properly, like you know, forgot to put screws... It's like suing car manufacturers because i put diesel into gasoline engine...
Yes just cheep crap from Canyon , Chinese built frame for 300 dollar ! But idiots pay £3500 for one hahaha , this bike looks like a 2005 Giant TCR , old fashioned rubbish now thanks to the UCI , every bike I own is banned by them ( Thank God ) .....
@@curtisducati You sound butthurt.
@@curtisducatiah, another loser who is mad because he can't afford one.
If you had any clue how they attach then you would delete your ridiculously stupid comment.
Full of your negatives - then goes on to say how amazing it is. How it has all the best parts of competitors bikes 😂😂 weirdo
If that weighs 7.07kg I’ll eat my shorts, c,mon that’s an out right lie. Wake up people stop believing this bull.
👍🏻
Trouble is it’s a mail order Canyon. Just so dull tbh.
My 8000 euro Ducati is faster... Sorry
Boring indeed 😢
It's brilliant. I don't want it.
Yes, a very boring bike and a very boring review.
Honestly that's a really stupid comment. It's perfectly priced. You can buy a Ford Bronco Raptor for $100k. Is the Bronco Raptor at least 10 x the value of that bike? Obviously, yes. Comparatively, the Bronco Raptor should probably be $200k. So is $9k a steal? For one of the best bikes in the world? Please, take my money.
We do not want this overpriced dangerous clunker, canyon, goodbye, plenty of other choices