I've been waiting for this to drop for ages! One question: How would the new 105 version compare? Or are all the upgrades and improvements specific to the dura ace version you were riding in the video?
Yes, I agree with the previous comment. It would be great if you could find a way to make an adjustable stem length just like handle bar width and stack height.
Finally some real collaboration from the people that matter to put this machine together, so that's a yes from me, very nice bike but something designed & built as good as this should have a more glorious colour to stand out even further from the rest of the pack
I LOVE my Aeroad. I got it in 2019 with rim brakes. It would be amazing to see a real world test (GCN test loop) of 1) All the generations against eachother. 2) Difference difference between the top an bottom spec Please make this video.
Those last sentences are really honest, good that canyon 'allows' this. Also nice there are no big aero/performance claims, they just made a really good bike a little better and user friendly with some welcome updates (those rubber bumbers and torx screws!!)
Glad you appreciated it, top spec bikes are amazing pieces of kit, but it important to remember they are not forced upon anyone and not always the best option depending on the riding you do.
Great video from Alex as always - I need to book a trip to Canyon as im on my 4th Order in 8 years. New Aeroad is on its way and in Picking from warehouse !!!
All that research and development and yet they still don’t give a shit about their current customer. The most requested thing from current aeroad owners is to be able to buy a different spec handlebar than the one that comes with it. Here i am with a stem that is to short for my long arms and i am stuck with it. For the love of god canyon, let the people have access to different spec handlebar for the cp0018 cockpit. The most frustrating thing is to see racing team having their own custom spec handlebar for them. Just make available for the public god damn it
It can't really be called new. It's just a fix for a failure in the last version. The only thing new is the flared handlebar and pace aerobar. Due to problems with the seatpost and headset design in their first version, they sold bikes for ten thousand euros that had metal bearings that were always exposed to rust. They want to erase the third generation. This is only a minor change, not the 4th generation, but they claim it is the 4th generation in order to bury the failure in history. Only the areas where most consumers suffered were improved. A creaky seatpost, a headset bearing structure that rusts very easily, and individual stem lengths that are uniform but not sold separately. These three things have only been improved, but it's the 4th generation? You should be ashamed of yourself. A German company that buries products that need to be recalled without taking action.
That bumper addition to the fork is brilliant. My bike has chips and lost a bit of paint from when I’ve had the wheel off to put bike into a bike bag for trains here in Japan.
Super interesting video! Love to see the testing of the as-built frames to ensure they are as stiff and aerodynamic as the CAD models. This video definitely helped me understand the price point of a top end frame!
Flared drops for a road bike are fantastic! I run 36cm C-2-C, but recent bought a gravel bike and put on some 38s from Profile Design. Their bars do not flare at the hoods, so you still get the narrow hood position and flare out to 46cm at the drops on the 38s. That is fantastic for comfort, stability and huge leverage for sprinting. Thankfully, they also make a 36cm bar, which will be going on my road bike!
Never buy a first generation bike, wait a year or two. Canyon dropped the ball with the 2020 model, the seatpost design was flawed and makes unbearable noise. I’ve contacted canyon at least 6 diff times complaining about it and they send me a “fix” which doesn’t fix it. So now I’m stuck with a $5000 bike that ticks and creaks no matter what I do. It’s so loud that I can hear it over my headphones, and I can feel the vibration through my handlebars. Canyon won’t take it back so I’m stuck with it which really left a bad taste in my mouth.
@@KillersFromTheWest hi. Sorry to hear you still have this issue. Have you followed the RUclips videos of the guy who successfully fixed his? I also did. You need x2 types of grease and it stops it 💯. One goes deep into the tube with a long paintbrush and the other grease you smear around high inside the rubber stopper
@@KillersFromTheWest I fixed this issue by applying a very sticky grease around the upper seal. The white stuff that came with the bike is completely useless.
Was going to get an Aeroad, but alas, never one in my size and customer service could never say when in my size would be available. Very happy with my BMC Team Machine One.
About time Canyon with headset improvements. Please, please roll this out to other bikes as nearly every ine of your bikes I work on, needs these bearings replaying after a short period of time.
Thanks, GCN, for the New Canyon Aeroad presentation. I enjoyed watching it. I love the PACE bar concept. The missing part is the data supporting Canyon's claim: "Proven in the wind tunnel against its competitors and validated in real-world racing, it’s officially the fastest bike in the WorldTour." Alex mentioned that it was tested against the SL8, S5, and the previous Aeroad. Can we see the comparison data?
It was a jump for me to go from getting a bike from a brick and mortar store to going with one who sells directly to consumers and not having a chance to do a test ride. That leap of faith paid off. 2 years ago, I got the Grizl 7 1by. This year, I bought the Endurace Di2 Aero in February. I have not regretted buying either bike. Every ride is just absolute fun. And seeing how Alex got to visit and ride the new Aeroad-I may be just a little bit jealous! @CanyonBicycles, you have any need for an instructional designer with skills in video and audio recording and editing?
I love❤ Canyon bikes and own the 2020 Aeroad CFR w Matthieu VDP era. I’m super glad I bought this design compared to this new release because of the thicker downtube. I loved its design first and then for the feel, as it’s my first fully carbon fiber road bike.
The Shofter cable snapped on my mates Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8 (or 9 idk) Its a 200€ mechanics bill bc there is no access to the internal routing system and the otherwise fine bottom bracket will have to come out, which means it will have to be replaced and I think that was something pretty easy to avoid by simply modifying the internal routing system slightly. I think when Mechanics ask for a bike thwts easier to work on, they have a point.
i think the 2020 model was the quantum leap making it a superb all-round aero bike - i have it in SLX trim and love it - this feels like marginal gains and at least 3 of of the new features seem a bit "nice to have" - hard to improve a good thing ;)
That seatpost mount looks like the bottle mount from the tri version of the speedmax, so it could be primarily aimed at the tri market for now, especially for hilly courses
When we lived in Germany we stayed a few days in the area and it is beautiful, complete with a castle overlooking the town. I have 5 Canyon bikes, mostly from 2015 to 2020. My favorite is my Canyon CF EVO Ultimate 10.0, 13.2 lbs (5.98 KG) with everything on it except bottles.
thats actually weirdly much. I understand that a carbon bar will absorb some shoch to smoothen the ride. but at this point wouldnt it actually work against the stiffness of the frame, when absorbing your movements that would go otherwise in the pedals?
Think that was a criticism of the new sworks tarmac 8 as well. Some people say it's more comfy but I don't know. Maybe it's good for most people and bad for sprints?
@@IFrancyISantosI yeah and they said it is only the equivalent of 80 kg in force going through it, which doesn't seem like that much for how much it was moving. But I haven't seen other bars tested in the same way so might be normal
@@maxafc4695 how often do you put 80 kg of force on the the handlebars tho? That is the entire weight of a decent sized male adult pushing down on the handle bars, not a common ride scenario.
Almost perfect, but you need to ship it with the aero handlebars as standard and you also need to make a handlebar where you can adjust the stem length.
Well a brilliant looking bike and one that can give any type of rider the benefits that they need for the type of riding that they may be doing. I for one can’t necessarily afford the Canyon aeroad in any of its respective models and specifications, however I do like riding as hard and as fast as I possibly can on flat roads, or down some good local decents and the aeroad fits my riding style perfectly. If had all the money in the world would definitely buy one and for my friends for good measure
So what’s the actual windtunnel numbers. You said they tested against other bikes, but then you didn’t mention the numbers… Plus, what were the configs tested? Aeroad with 35cm handlebar vs SL8 with 40s?
Never unserstood the fascination with Canyon Bikes but after looking at building a Chinese framed bike and the Frame carbon issues reported by youtube channels i was put off. I came across ths new canyon and the pricing seems fair and the engineering behind it seems great so planning on buying one next month when in stock :) ps canyon...dont up the price anymore :D
Frame only price? Since i already have wheels, and the fork, stem, bar, cranks, chainrings, cassette, tires, and saddle are all the wrong size, a complete bike doesn't make sense. But the frame looks nice, good geometry
Hey. Hey Canyon. How about offering up cockpits with a better variety of stem lengths. I would literally buy a bike from you today, but your geometry options are messed.
Should & woulda been on gcn tech channel until recently , but gcn have started putting some tech vids on their normal channel as it has more subscribers.
Beautiful bike! Only disadvantage of the CFR models: Why do they need to have the name written all over the frame, especially the head tube? On the SLX models looks much more clean with their logo
Stainless steel is generally softer, so what you gain in corrosion resistance you give up in bearing hardness and thus long term wear. With all innovations on the handle bars, too bad they didn't go further ergonomically by giving a bit of back sweep and down angle to match the natural position of your hands like the coefficient bars. That stuff said, if I were to get another bike, it'd probably be this one.
Hi ! Thank you for that good video. Please help me with something : i'm about to order the. same bike. The problem is that i'm 1,79m tall (84cm crotch, 74,5cm saddle height). I'm in the middle between the S and M size. I'm like doing races so my position on the bike is "agressive". Can you help me to chose the right frame size ? Maybe S but changing the stem from 90 to 130mm ? Thanks a lot.
really good question and sizing conundrum! Maybe see if someone local to you has one? We know riders who are 1.83m with a 78cm saddle height who ride a M
I love BTS videos. I find how things are made to be fascinating. That new bike is super pretty. I have two Canyon bikes. I feel like I get more bike fit my money, I just don’t need that much bike for hire I ride
The bikes look amazing. Unfortunaly I want to pay extra for the paint job I prefer but they only seem to offer them on the bikes that are just to expansive to me. I really like the shimano di2 grail they did have available until recently for about 4k euro. But it was only in xl and up. While I should be ordering an L according to there website. Now they have a new grail di2 on there website but it cost almost 1500 more. 😢. It seems I'm going to use my 22 year old bike for a little longer 😅
@@stephenp1615 I would expect that because the CFR frames are made in Germany that the tolerances will be spot on. Most of the tolerance issues come from frames made in Asia, but the worst bike brand for tolerance issues are the American brand who started the trend in the first place. Having said that, LBS and team mechanics are divided on the subject based on personal experience and preferences, so have to be taken with a pinch of salt. It's the home mechanics who have a harder time with pressfit because the proper tools for the job are extremely expensive, and a standard workstand that clamps the seatpost is less than ideal for holding the bike - especially on posts with a teardrop profile.
@@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 if pressfit is giving problems that's due to poor quality of the frame, not the bottom bracket design. They should make sure there's a perfect fit in each and every frame before installing the bottom bracket, and reaming the hole if there isn't.
Previously bikes dropped the saddle clamp to improve compliance, this generation raised it to improve “feedback”. Standby for the next generation to lower it again and manufacturers claim it’s an improvement
What are your thoughts on the Canyon Aeroad? 👇
That Torx everywhere idea and its execution is great. The hex bolts and screws are nice but easier to damage.
👍
lower section wheels, very small differences and very disappointing colors, all while it's more expensive.
Same
I've been waiting for this to drop for ages! One question: How would the new 105 version compare? Or are all the upgrades and improvements specific to the dura ace version you were riding in the video?
We're enjoying reading all the new comments and will pass them onto the right people! We hope you enjoy the new bike if you manage to get one. ❤🔥
you guys need to stop with these "one-stem-fits-all" designs.
Yes, I agree with the previous comment. It would be great if you could find a way to make an adjustable stem length just like handle bar width and stack height.
Please release better colors for the SLX 🙏
@@filipe.portesin fact For all variants!!! The paying customers get lousy color choices compared to what the professionals get & what they advertise!!
Stop paying influencers to make ridiculous ads like this..
Finally some real collaboration from the people that matter to put this machine together, so that's a yes from me, very nice bike but something designed & built as good as this should have a more glorious colour to stand out even further from the rest of the pack
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in endurance sports
Unexplained crashes are a matter for the courts
Canyon Aeroad! Canyon Aeroad!
🎶🎶🎶
She blinds everybody with her super high blue sheen
She's a KOM squashing, PR smacking, riding machine!
Just ordered a white SLX, CANNOT WAIT 🎉
I LOVE my Aeroad. I got it in 2019 with rim brakes.
It would be amazing to see a real world test (GCN test loop) of
1) All the generations against eachother.
2) Difference difference between the top an bottom spec
Please make this video.
I doubt that’s happening. I think that there won’t be any differences and that wouldn’t help with sales of the new model.
@@michaelarz277not that you could buy the old ones now :)
Those last sentences are really honest, good that canyon 'allows' this. Also nice there are no big aero/performance claims, they just made a really good bike a little better and user friendly with some welcome updates (those rubber bumbers and torx screws!!)
Glad you appreciated it, top spec bikes are amazing pieces of kit, but it important to remember they are not forced upon anyone and not always the best option depending on the riding you do.
What a beautiful machine. So proud to be a part of Canyon family, love my Endurace! And the colour, blue as sky, so nice
fanboy
@@IK47-d2l yes I am, but I don’t think I should be ashamed of it
@@lock775 you should unless you're a 13 years old teenager
@@IK47-d2l keep me informed
Well, there goes my college fund 😅
This was amazing ! These bikes are piece of Art & Technology .
Insane.
Alex, I need your job. Walking away with an awesome bike is definitely a perk.
My jaw hit the floor..I'm so jealous
This will be my next bike. I can’t wait.
nice!!
I love the aero road. Enjoy
Great video from Alex as always - I need to book a trip to Canyon as im on my 4th Order in 8 years. New Aeroad is on its way and in Picking from warehouse !!!
thanks! enjoy the new bike!
All that research and development and yet they still don’t give a shit about their current customer. The most requested thing from current aeroad owners is to be able to buy a different spec handlebar than the one that comes with it. Here i am with a stem that is to short for my long arms and i am stuck with it. For the love of god canyon, let the people have access to different spec handlebar for the cp0018 cockpit. The most frustrating thing is to see racing team having their own custom spec handlebar for them. Just make available for the public god damn it
It can't really be called new. It's just a fix for a failure in the last version. The only thing new is the flared handlebar and pace aerobar.
Due to problems with the seatpost and headset design in their first version, they sold bikes for ten thousand euros that had metal bearings that were always exposed to rust. They want to erase the third generation. This is only a minor change, not the 4th generation, but they claim it is the 4th generation in order to bury the failure in history. Only the areas where most consumers suffered were improved. A creaky seatpost, a headset bearing structure that rusts very easily, and individual stem lengths that are uniform but not sold separately. These three things have only been improved, but it's the 4th generation? You should be ashamed of yourself. A German company that buries products that need to be recalled without taking action.
Great video! Really interesting seeing the different tests they do on the bikes.
Mega cool video Alex and team!
Great video. I would love to work at Canyon.
That bumper addition to the fork is brilliant. My bike has chips and lost a bit of paint from when I’ve had the wheel off to put bike into a bike bag for trains here in Japan.
Super interesting video! Love to see the testing of the as-built frames to ensure they are as stiff and aerodynamic as the CAD models. This video definitely helped me understand the price point of a top end frame!
Flared drops for a road bike are fantastic! I run 36cm C-2-C, but recent bought a gravel bike and put on some 38s from Profile Design. Their bars do not flare at the hoods, so you still get the narrow hood position and flare out to 46cm at the drops on the 38s. That is fantastic for comfort, stability and huge leverage for sprinting. Thankfully, they also make a 36cm bar, which will be going on my road bike!
Like it but by the time I replace cranks, stem, chainrings and cassette so it fits, I might as well get a Specialized or Cannondale
Love it! Still costly but not the £14k price that’s now common.
Really enjoyed the videography in this show… well done all!
Thanks!
Thanks very much, we had fun making the video and getting to see behind the scenes too !
Holy shit the new team paint is even better than the purple one on the CFR I just bought
I’m jealous you got a purple one
What a bike! 😍
cool bike. high performance enthusiasts will love this.
ainda continuo sonhando com uma canyon
Never buy a first generation bike, wait a year or two. Canyon dropped the ball with the 2020 model, the seatpost design was flawed and makes unbearable noise. I’ve contacted canyon at least 6 diff times complaining about it and they send me a “fix” which doesn’t fix it. So now I’m stuck with a $5000 bike that ticks and creaks no matter what I do. It’s so loud that I can hear it over my headphones, and I can feel the vibration through my handlebars. Canyon won’t take it back so I’m stuck with it which really left a bad taste in my mouth.
Don't buy overpriced garbage ever again
@@KillersFromTheWest hi. Sorry to hear you still have this issue. Have you followed the RUclips videos of the guy who successfully fixed his? I also did. You need x2 types of grease and it stops it 💯. One goes deep into the tube with a long paintbrush and the other grease you smear around high inside the rubber stopper
@@catherineklaffer4651it shouldn't be about a RUclips video. A reputable brand should do more for their customers.
@@lewissmit6547Yes, but he said he's stuck with the bike and Canyon won't do anything, so this information about a potential fix could be helpful.
@@KillersFromTheWest I fixed this issue by applying a very sticky grease around the upper seal. The white stuff that came with the bike is completely useless.
Wow! That’s a great looking bike👍
Well done Hank!!! What cassette did Manon use on her Orbea? Looked massive??
Excellent insite into how a new bike is developed. Now I know why they are so expensive
Was going to get an Aeroad, but alas, never one in my size and customer service could never say when in my size would be available. Very happy with my BMC Team Machine One.
Would also love to see the development/production of their regular commuter bikes like the Roadlite/Pathlite range in the future.
Will the new handlebars (with aero bar mount option) be suitable with the 2022 model of the aeroad?
Unfortunately I don't believe they are backwards compatible, which is a shame as that would have been amazing.
@@alexpatonGCN ah that’s a shame.
Canyon: ‘we’ve designed this bike directly based on requests from pros’
Pros: ‘we want a much lighter bike’
Canyon: ‘…… here’s 40grams’ 😂
canyon "eat less and lose ur weight by 1kg"
Would be good if you guys did the CF SLX as well
Can’t wait for some of that tech to trickle down to lower end models. That handle bar looks sweet.
Can the new cockpit be used on the previous model Aeroad?
About time Canyon with headset improvements. Please, please roll this out to other bikes as nearly every ine of your bikes I work on, needs these bearings replaying after a short period of time.
Thanks, GCN, for the New Canyon Aeroad presentation. I enjoyed watching it. I love the PACE bar concept. The missing part is the data supporting Canyon's claim: "Proven in the wind tunnel against its competitors and validated in real-world racing, it’s officially the fastest bike in the WorldTour." Alex mentioned that it was tested against the SL8, S5, and the previous Aeroad. Can we see the comparison data?
You thank them for watching an advertisement? boy oh boy..
🔥🔥 LOVE IT, is Alex now the fastest presenter on this??
Yes, 100%
we (Alex) printed a certificate for Alex too. It's on his desk in a frame
Are the bars available separately? that'd be interesting .
Hi, it is worth keeping an eye on this page to see what is available www.canyon.com/en-gb/gear/bike-parts/contact-points/handlebars-and-stems/ 👍
I think I saw you at Canyon HQ when I was there to compare bike sizes :D
Hello again in that case!
It was a jump for me to go from getting a bike from a brick and mortar store to going with one who sells directly to consumers and not having a chance to do a test ride. That leap of faith paid off. 2 years ago, I got the Grizl 7 1by. This year, I bought the Endurace Di2 Aero in February. I have not regretted buying either bike. Every ride is just absolute fun. And seeing how Alex got to visit and ride the new Aeroad-I may be just a little bit jealous! @CanyonBicycles, you have any need for an instructional designer with skills in video and audio recording and editing?
Canyon needs to offer me one, as a loyal customer ❤.
I love❤ Canyon bikes and own the 2020 Aeroad CFR w Matthieu VDP era. I’m super glad I bought this design compared to this new release because of the thicker downtube. I loved its design first and then for the feel, as it’s my first fully carbon fiber road bike.
I’m intrigued by the aero bar attachment, it doesn’t seem sturdy. But if it works it is an interesting option for a casual triathlete.
The Shofter cable snapped on my mates Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8 (or 9 idk)
Its a 200€ mechanics bill bc there is no access to the internal routing system and the otherwise fine bottom bracket will have to come out, which means it will have to be replaced and I think that was something pretty easy to avoid by simply modifying the internal routing system slightly.
I think when Mechanics ask for a bike thwts easier to work on, they have a point.
i think the 2020 model was the quantum leap making it a superb all-round aero bike - i have it in SLX trim and love it - this feels like marginal gains and at least 3 of of the new features seem a bit "nice to have" - hard to improve a good thing ;)
That seatpost mount looks like the bottle mount from the tri version of the speedmax, so it could be primarily aimed at the tri market for now, especially for hilly courses
That was nice! It did not feel as artificial as the Pinarello "advert"
When we lived in Germany we stayed a few days in the area and it is beautiful, complete with a castle overlooking the town. I have 5 Canyon bikes, mostly from 2015 to 2020. My favorite is my Canyon CF EVO Ultimate 10.0, 13.2 lbs (5.98 KG) with everything on it except bottles.
That is a lot of flex in that handlebar...
thats actually weirdly much. I understand that a carbon bar will absorb some shoch to smoothen the ride. but at this point wouldnt it actually work against the stiffness of the frame, when absorbing your movements that would go otherwise in the pedals?
Think that was a criticism of the new sworks tarmac 8 as well. Some people say it's more comfy but I don't know. Maybe it's good for most people and bad for sprints?
@@IFrancyISantosI yeah and they said it is only the equivalent of 80 kg in force going through it, which doesn't seem like that much for how much it was moving. But I haven't seen other bars tested in the same way so might be normal
It's true, bars and stems do flex more than most people think. But you have to admit it sprints pretty well in real life!
@@maxafc4695 how often do you put 80 kg of force on the the handlebars tho? That is the entire weight of a decent sized male adult pushing down on the handle bars, not a common ride scenario.
Love the color too!
I expect it is only available if you pay for the most expensive one.😅.
7:50 Alex changes his outfit like superman to super cyclist and then 8:29 back to mild mannered regular guy. Never misses a breath.
I love the Handlebars and the attachment option. Also the torx approach is really good!
Will the new Gen4 cockpit fit the Gen3 frame and fork? 11:23.
…or will the aero drops fit the 3rd Gen cockpit?
Almost perfect, but you need to ship it with the aero handlebars as standard and you also need to make a handlebar where you can adjust the stem length.
My next bike!
Thanks Alex and crew.....too many zero's for me , but amazing !
So these bikes will support Canyon aero bars? Did I catch that correctly?
Correct 😎
Do you know which aero bar extension will bolt onto this? If you have a link +2 points ;)
I’d be interested in knowing if CT scanner is for QC on all Canyon carbon fiber products or just the new Aeroad
Well a brilliant looking bike and one that can give any type of rider the benefits that they need for the type of riding that they may be doing. I for one can’t necessarily afford the Canyon aeroad in any of its respective models and specifications, however I do like riding as hard and as fast as I possibly can on flat roads, or down some good local decents and the aeroad fits my riding style perfectly. If had all the money in the world would definitely buy one and for my friends for good measure
So what’s the actual windtunnel numbers. You said they tested against other bikes, but then you didn’t mention the numbers…
Plus, what were the configs tested? Aeroad with 35cm handlebar vs SL8 with 40s?
Never unserstood the fascination with Canyon Bikes but after looking at building a Chinese framed bike and the Frame carbon issues reported by youtube channels i was put off. I came across ths new canyon and the pricing seems fair and the engineering behind it seems great so planning on buying one next month when in stock :) ps canyon...dont up the price anymore :D
can you use it with indoor trainer? (covered back thru axle)
Frame only price? Since i already have wheels, and the fork, stem, bar, cranks, chainrings, cassette, tires, and saddle are all the wrong size, a complete bike doesn't make sense. But the frame looks nice, good geometry
Hey. Hey Canyon. How about offering up cockpits with a better variety of stem lengths. I would literally buy a bike from you today, but your geometry options are messed.
is that stock seat?
I have the 2023 Aeroad CF SLX and love it!! The new one would be nice but way out of my price range!!
1:50 2024 -2010 is 14 years Alex. Where do you get 20 years from?
How tall are you and what frame size did you ride?
How do you buy this color
Should & woulda been on gcn tech channel until recently , but gcn have started putting some tech vids on their normal channel as it has more subscribers.
Thanks for letting us know what is behind Area 51 😃
Beautiful bike! Only disadvantage of the CFR models: Why do they need to have the name written all over the frame, especially the head tube? On the SLX models looks much more clean with their logo
Stainless steel is generally softer, so what you gain in corrosion resistance you give up in bearing hardness and thus long term wear. With all innovations on the handle bars, too bad they didn't go further ergonomically by giving a bit of back sweep and down angle to match the natural position of your hands like the coefficient bars. That stuff said, if I were to get another bike, it'd probably be this one.
How do I get that color!?!?
I wanna know what beers your drinking there. I got really thirsty watching this lol
Visually only issue i see is the gap between front wheel and bottom tube. Looks like a gravel bike in that section
When it would be available to buy?
It's available now
when ultimate update？
Is efective stack hight actually 1cm lower then old model?so the possition is more aggresive?
How fast be this bike go ?
Hi ! Thank you for that good video.
Please help me with something : i'm about to order the. same bike. The problem is that i'm 1,79m tall (84cm crotch, 74,5cm saddle height). I'm in the middle between the S and M size.
I'm like doing races so my position on the bike is "agressive".
Can you help me to chose the right frame size ? Maybe S but changing the stem from 90 to 130mm ?
Thanks a lot.
really good question and sizing conundrum! Maybe see if someone local to you has one? We know riders who are 1.83m with a 78cm saddle height who ride a M
Sounds great let me win one with ultegra ✌️🇦🇹
This bike is nice. If it would take 35mm wheels I would be sold.
I love BTS videos. I find how things are made to be fascinating. That new bike is super pretty. I have two Canyon bikes. I feel like I get more bike fit my money, I just don’t need that much bike for hire I ride
What I want is 165 cranks on an XS size frame. Doesn’t appear to be possible, meaning more after-purchase expense.
in a strict German accent: "You will get the size we choose and you will like it"
Indeed, although I’m not so sure about the „and you will like it“ bit. It’s even more frustrating and expensive when power meters are involved.
… AND shorter cranks enable a more aero position, so it’s even more in their marketing interest to enable the choice.
The bikes look amazing. Unfortunaly I want to pay extra for the paint job I prefer but they only seem to offer them on the bikes that are just to expansive to me. I really like the shimano di2 grail they did have available until recently for about 4k euro. But it was only in xl and up. While I should be ordering an L according to there website. Now they have a new grail di2 on there website but it cost almost 1500 more. 😢. It seems I'm going to use my 22 year old bike for a little longer 😅
just purchased a cfr aeroad
Return it. Trust me, I am an engineer
❤
@@MS-bw7ytsource? "Trust me bro"
Please compare to similiar spec Ultimate 🙃
Why only a 41mm bb?
“Talked to the mechanics and made a super reliable bike.” - puts PressFit BB on the bike...
As long as the bb is correctly toleranced, press fit brings no disadvantages and means the frame weighs less...
@@stephenp1615 I would expect that because the CFR frames are made in Germany that the tolerances will be spot on. Most of the tolerance issues come from frames made in Asia, but the worst bike brand for tolerance issues are the American brand who started the trend in the first place.
Having said that, LBS and team mechanics are divided on the subject based on personal experience and preferences, so have to be taken with a pinch of salt. It's the home mechanics who have a harder time with pressfit because the proper tools for the job are extremely expensive, and a standard workstand that clamps the seatpost is less than ideal for holding the bike - especially on posts with a teardrop profile.
@@matt_acton-varian "CFR frames are made in Germany"
@@matt_acton-varian "CFR frames are made in Germany" are you sure? Where did you find that information, seriously asking...?
Hi, is that a large or XL ? What are the specs of the rider ? (height, inseam)
Thanks !
The theme was make the bike easier to work on; and they keep the PF86 BB instead of moving to threaded. 😢😢😢😢😢
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@@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 if pressfit is giving problems that's due to poor quality of the frame, not the bottom bracket design. They should make sure there's a perfect fit in each and every frame before installing the bottom bracket, and reaming the hole if there isn't.
Previously bikes dropped the saddle clamp to improve compliance, this generation raised it to improve “feedback”. Standby for the next generation to lower it again and manufacturers claim it’s an improvement
R&D is impressive
As if they are making rocket ships lol. There is no R&D, It's marketing BS..
Gravel bars?