@@mohammednadeemanwar2213 Can't get some love from YT? No sympathy from me, pal. Besides, I am pretty much aware of what you may say, so consider your mission accomplished.
Israel does not understand the streisand effect, the more they try to bully censor defame and ruin anyone in education that condems their genocidal actions. The more they alienate themselves.
Nothing new there. You should go read up about how innocent Irishmen were fitted up for terrorism in the 1970s and the policemen had the crass arrogance to tell the innocent banged-up accused that they knew they were. Not to mention forging forensics, bent judges, corrupt Home Secretaries etc etc. UK legal system isn't squeaky clean, you know.
Just remember that MI5/6 see St Andrews as one of their recruiting grounds in Scotland. You'd hardly expect the spooks to tolerate anything other than what MI6 routinely carries out all over the globe....
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked And Israelis have been elevated to the monsters of the decade, rioters breaking into military court to defend terrorists who were torturing Palestinian hostages to death, that is the kind of sick society Israeli has fostered.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked man you've been copypasting that exact same sentence on this channel for months now. Like 5 months at least. Get a grip or get some new material.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked Israel bombed the third oldest church in the world (Gaza Greek Orthodox Church), civilian convoys, Rafah crossing, refugee camps etc. Israel used white phosphorus in civilian areas.
Unfortunately, in matters of high tension, one person's truth is another person's lies. What is unacceptable is that ACTIONS leading to human death cannot be criticised, since if that is true, then genocide can occur without respite. How words can be banned when bombs can be accepted is beyond sanity.....
@@jimmyquigley7561 I agree with you, but I'm talking about how the real world plays out. I've lived long enough to know that truth is a very rare commodity when wars and genocides take place....
Better to sue the Prime Minister or, better, put him in a dock for 'actively supporting acts of genocide through political influence'. St Andrews is just doing what the Government wants because a lot of its money comes from the Government.
Dr David Miller was dismissed from his position of sociology lecturer at Bristol University for similar reasons. He then took the university to court and eventually won his case, but it cost him thousands of pounds.
As a recent graduate of the uni, I have been disgusted by the university administration. What a joke. Not proud of my university but definitely proud of our morally outstanding rector.
We can say terrible things about Russia but not about israel..this is appalling..i am ashamed of st andrews university..israel invaded and then brutalized Palestine
This is just like the resignation of Claudine Gay - the first black President of Harvard - in January. Free speech is sadly dead both in the US 🇺🇸 and the UK 🇬🇧. 😕
She condemned the war crimes committed by Hamas - and there certainly were some, but far fewer than anyone thought back in November. As we know now, there's even *less* to condemn Hamas for. Unsurprisingly, she's even more vindicated now than she thought she was.
I didn't believe any accusation coming out of Israel even on October 8th without evidence. They had a known track record for lying back then, and anyone believing and repeating those lies (Owen Jones) is quite frankly complicit.
Well, you'd be surprised because my experience of the National Union of Students (NUS) and Student Union (SU) have a hieraof rascism and discrimination (especially at the NUS), this occurs at the university too with some lecturers being threatened because they called for a ceasefire and supporting Palestinian rights. Even the "labour" society of the university attacks those calling out isreals genocide and trys to cause pile on's, doxxing, etc. and get away with it.
Owen, I live in St.Andrews and fully support what you say. St Andrews is the biggest public school in the UK and lives up it's own --se. You'd be hard pressed to find a single Palestinian flag and in the aftermath of 7/10 was plastered with hostage posters. There was no word of intimidation then. Stella's voice was a brave stand. It's the 'court' that should be sacked not Stella.
They clearly wanted a reason to oust a popular black administrator. This is happening all over the United States. And yes, you all should do something about it.
I saw in the comments somebody describing the rector as bold and brave. The sad indictment is the rector of a university shouldn't have to be bold and brave to speak the truth in defense of humanity.
Thanks for this Owen. It's Lady Morag Ross KC! We don't need anyone like Morag in positions of power derailing our sovernity in support of another country. That's what is egregious to me.
The students of St Andrew's have a moral duty to step up and challenge the University and this KC directly to reinstate the rector immediately. We all had a duty to refuse to accept the IHRA definition of anti-semitism in our institutions. If both of these interventions were enacted, this unjust situation would not have arisen, legally or legitimately. It's not too late. Humanity depends on what the majority do. People have the power.
Would love to know Lady Morag Ross KCs position is on individuals going to Gaza and actually committing war crimes!!! The manipulation of anti semitism has to be stopped.
This is insanity. Since when did promoting humanity & peace become a controversial stance ? Well unfortunately we all know the answer to that. It was October 7th 2023.
It's shameful that these entities are being allowed to silence and take away our 1st amendment rights as an American citizen. I hope she can sued all involved in this travesty. She was speaking out against the genocidal slaughtering of defenseless innocent Palatinian. 🤔🤐
oJ, I just want to sincerely thank you, from like the depths of my soul, for your fierce and frank journalism throughout this trauma. You are truly special. We need you, as a long time follower, first time commenter, you deserve at least a short break for self care. ❤
how can she possibly be charged for agreeing with the UN?? Her words were truthful and the Israelis are finding this attrocious behaviour of the IDF etc. just too appalling to be true..
The K.C.'s report is absurd because it prevents a rector criticising literally any atrocity, in case people on one side or another get upset. However, the ban is very obviously unique to atrocities committed by one country. Did anything similar happen in British universities at the time of Apartheid, in case white South African students felt "unsafe"? I'm in Australia, married to a Russian, and I can tell you that nobody in our government said anything about the danger of Russophobia when Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukrainian flags were flying everywhere. I assume it was similar in Britain.
This report will go the way of court proceedings trying to convict Alex Salmond. It will go right to the top of Scottish Government and the KC concerned will unfortunately find that their reputation for legal soundness to have been flushed a very long way down into the depths of somewhat insanitary rabbit holes.....
Owen or someone, please send the link to this EXCELLENT video to everyone in power at this university. I also hope this case be widely reported on. They need to be criticized and shamed.
I'm an alumnus of Aberdeen University. I'm outraged by this decision by the St Andrews University Court. Whoever this KC is should be thinking about her irresponsibility and her position.
She is doing her job. Members of my family have defended murderers and rapists and managed to get some acquitted, its the nature of the job. I presume you are not an ignoramus. Its a job and she gets paid to do it.
Anyone watching war movies from the US will remember how horrifying it is doing field surgery without anesthesia, the soldiers cried like a baby. Contrasted that with Gaza, the movies themselves became abhorrent.
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Palestine will be free
Thank you Owen
Evil is-real
Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has a lot of problems. He has been accused of corruption. His wife is officially a convicted criminal.
Mileikowsky wants to prolong this gen 0 cyde to stay in power.
This decision should be illegal after the ICJ rulling.
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They will disregard it as "driven by hateful antisemitism".
Or something like this.
The University Council is now guilty of Genocide complicity. I do hope they consulted lawyers about all this.
@@talmudovsky Everyone apart from warmongers!
Especially given the United Kingdom is a signatory of the Rome Statute, so unlike either the US or Israel, IS ACTUALLY subject to the ICJ
Absurd! We ALL need to speak up EVERYWHERE! Boycott, divest, sanction!
Let's go and protest!
Z!onism is WORSE than Naz!sm
@@LiamHewitt-oq2oy Millions of us do, every week ...
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106💯💯💯💯💯💯
Well said
Shame on St Andrews. Boycott!
It's appalling but it's not shocking, is it?
Are you thick one word answers like boycott won’t help
@@Beyond_Belief534 That makes it all the more appalling.
Another appauling decision by a so called top university . .
Condemning Israeli war crimes is not antisemitic.
C'mon. Something fresh, please.
I've had enough of that word
Comment received and shredded for sake of humanity @@talmudovsky
@@mohammednadeemanwar2213 Can't get some love from YT? No sympathy from me, pal. Besides, I am pretty much aware of what you may say, so consider your mission accomplished.
@@talmudovsky It is not antisemitic to condemn Israeli war crimes. Fresh enough??
She is a great Rector.
Saying no more than the UN and the now, PM...
She is a strong woman...
So, they go after her.. 😮
Israel does not understand the streisand effect, the more they try to bully censor defame and ruin anyone in education that condems their genocidal actions. The more they alienate themselves.
Shame on all the politicians who are NOT standing with humanity
When the guilty verdict comes (and it will come), they'll all backtrack.
St Andrew's University should hold their heads in shame. Stella Maris message was factual and not anti-semitic. KC was wrong.
Nothing new there. You should go read up about how innocent Irishmen were fitted up for terrorism in the 1970s and the policemen had the crass arrogance to tell the innocent banged-up accused that they knew they were. Not to mention forging forensics, bent judges, corrupt Home Secretaries etc etc. UK legal system isn't squeaky clean, you know.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blockedyeah right.. ignoring 76 years of Genocide?.. get back under your rock..
The intent is what matters and it is there hence arrest warrant. Do your research
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked The intent is what matters and it is there hence arrest warrant. Do your research
@Fish_N_Chips_Dude in the same manner when the word anti-semite is casually thrown around. No idea what it means and when to use it.
Is this not ridiculous... a people in delusion and denial. She should be assured we will stand with HER FULLY!
We have to accept the unexpected, it's expected
I don’t !!
@@richardhead3062NPC
Shame on St.Andrews University for firing Rector who spoke the truth about Gaza
Just remember that MI5/6 see St Andrews as one of their recruiting grounds in Scotland. You'd hardly expect the spooks to tolerate anything other than what MI6 routinely carries out all over the globe....
Bad hasbara. Ta for the engagement @@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked
BUT WILLS AND KATE WILL BE QUIET
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked Yet strangely you provide no counter-evidence.
76 year long apartheid, 17 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. Pure evil
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blockedyou can deny but the world knows the truth
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked And Israelis have been elevated to the monsters of the decade, rioters breaking into military court to defend terrorists who were torturing Palestinian hostages to death, that is the kind of sick society Israeli has fostered.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked man you've been copypasting that exact same sentence on this channel for months now. Like 5 months at least. Get a grip or get some new material.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked Israel bombed the third oldest church in the world (Gaza Greek Orthodox Church), civilian convoys, Rafah crossing, refugee camps etc.
Israel used white phosphorus in civilian areas.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude_Blocked Lancet Study estimates Gaza death toll may exceed 186,000.
We should be able to speak the TRUTH publicly without facing repercussions in our jobs!
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Unfortunately, in matters of high tension, one person's truth is another person's lies. What is unacceptable is that ACTIONS leading to human death cannot be criticised, since if that is true, then genocide can occur without respite. How words can be banned when bombs can be accepted is beyond sanity.....
Or otherwise. There's more to life than being a professional
@@rhysjaggar4677 No, truth is backed by evidence and honesty. If not it's not true. Your right to your opinion doesn't make it true. She spoke truth.
@@jimmyquigley7561 I agree with you, but I'm talking about how the real world plays out. I've lived long enough to know that truth is a very rare commodity when wars and genocides take place....
She should sue University.
Better to sue the Prime Minister or, better, put him in a dock for 'actively supporting acts of genocide through political influence'. St Andrews is just doing what the Government wants because a lot of its money comes from the Government.
The university should sue her for tarnishing their name.
Dr David Miller was dismissed from his position of sociology lecturer at Bristol University for similar reasons. He then took the university to court and eventually won his case, but it cost him thousands of pounds.
shame on the school
Shocking decision but had she remained in place, Starmer would have cut food, water and electricity to the university.
Exactly 👍
Love this response!
Along with her pension top ups.
TO THE UNI
Her bold and brave attitude has to be appreciated
The sad indictment is the rector of a university shouldn't have to be bold and brave to speak the truth in defense of humanity.
This hysteria of fearing for their safety just makes absolutely no sense!
They don’t fear for their safety racists using antisemitism as a weapon
They don't fear for their safety, they just say it.
They needed a 'legitimate ' excuse.
Owen, lots of respect for you for how strong you have been through this disgusting time in our humanity
he's a great journalism
I respect this wonderful journalist 😄
Dreadful throughout the people's pantomime though, wearing face nappies and mocking those that wouldn't
Z!onism is WORSE than Naz!sm
@@Beyond_Belief534Deez Nuts
As a recent graduate of the uni, I have been disgusted by the university administration. What a joke. Not proud of my university but definitely proud of our morally outstanding rector.
We can say terrible things about Russia but not about israel..this is appalling..i am ashamed of st andrews university..israel invaded and then brutalized Palestine
You can say terrible things about Israel, you just have to express it in more subtle ways.
Hamas invaded Israel......... 18 years of rockets etc, grow up!!!
@@AdrianG-sf3leEntering a country from an area that that country is occupying isn't an invasion, it's a defensive tactic
@@repelsteeltje90 Sure.........the fact you are a regular on owen jones bs channel, no need to say more, I won't waste anymore time........
Heart breaking to see what's happening tp the Palestinian People 🙏
and to the ones who defend humanity....
This is just like the resignation of Claudine Gay - the first black President of Harvard - in January.
Free speech is sadly dead both in the US 🇺🇸 and the UK 🇬🇧. 😕
It's at least on life-support.
That young lady is a leader of the future. What an incredibly bright and formidable force.
She condemned the war crimes committed by Hamas - and there certainly were some, but far fewer than anyone thought back in November. As we know now, there's even *less* to condemn Hamas for.
Unsurprisingly, she's even more vindicated now than she thought she was.
I didn't believe any accusation coming out of Israel even on October 8th without evidence. They had a known track record for lying back then, and anyone believing and repeating those lies (Owen Jones) is quite frankly complicit.
One wonders what organisations the KC is a member of and whether any campaigns to have her removed from membership can be successfully prosecuted?
@rhysjaggar4677 I would certainly seek advice re legal redress. I live not far from St Andrews, and I'm disgusted by this
Never realised a UK university could so openly clamp down on free speech
Well, you'd be surprised because my experience of the National Union of Students (NUS) and Student Union (SU) have a hieraof rascism and discrimination (especially at the NUS), this occurs at the university too with some lecturers being threatened because they called for a ceasefire and supporting Palestinian rights. Even the "labour" society of the university attacks those calling out isreals genocide and trys to cause pile on's, doxxing, etc. and get away with it.
Lets hope the students of St. Andrews protest against this injustice towards their Rector!! Its a disgrace!!
Owen, I live in St.Andrews and fully support what you say. St Andrews is the biggest public school in the UK and lives up it's own --se. You'd be hard pressed to find a single Palestinian flag and in the aftermath of 7/10 was plastered with hostage posters. There was no word of intimidation then. Stella's voice was a brave stand. It's the 'court' that should be sacked not Stella.
I can’t believe the unjust vilification of Stella. Wrong Wrong !
So now telling the truth is antisemitic. Huh?
Has been for quite a while now.
Not got the memo? For sometime now all criticism of the state of Israel has been deemed so. It is bollix.
This is Starmer"s default position
Ant isem nonsense
Anything that goes against Israel is apparently considered antisemitic.
All love for her ❤️ Thanks for standing for humanity and justice
Free free Palestine.
Not only do they want to be fully complicit in the horror, but they expect the rest of us to approve of their cruelty. Such selective snowflakery ...
They clearly wanted a reason to oust a popular black administrator. This is happening all over the United States. And yes, you all should do something about it.
I doubt that her skin colour had any relevance.
Israel - offended by everything, ashamed by nothing
There is so much evidence for what she said! How can she still be punished?
Shame on UK leaders, shame on America
British academia had been racist for the longest time (sic)!
clear racism at play here.
Of course, there has been racism in the uK Establishment, the US Deep State and the Israeli State for centuries/since 1948.
Shocking. Keep happening! Who is controlling our country!
You know who
@@boxhedge22
JKTERF Rowling?
Clue=same monsters that own USA
When you go down that road, you abandon any semblance of support for Palestinian liberation.
@@boxhedge22 The capitalist ruling class, of all ethnic and religious backgrounds.
I saw in the comments somebody describing the rector as bold and brave. The sad indictment is the rector of a university shouldn't have to be bold and brave to speak the truth in defense of humanity.
I am a student of st andrews and I remember when she sent that email. I thought it was fantastic of her. I can't believe she's been made to resign.
Please don't let this go! This is shameful!
Thanks for this Owen.
It's Lady Morag Ross KC!
We don't need anyone like Morag in positions of power derailing our sovernity in support of another country. That's what is egregious to me.
It’s absolutely shocking esp after the ICJ apartheid ruling .
Ah, but Israel respects no legal jurisdiction that doesn't let it create Greater Israel by force....
Thank you owen , for your heart felt truth, its disgusting to think that , humanity has stooped so low,
Scandalous. Thanks for putting this under the spotlight
Seems likely that St Andrews has some Israeli donors to consider...
Israel owns the UK. Rothchids and the bunch
Thank you for courageous and righteous journalism.
Respect !❤
Self Righteous more like!
Much respect for this young woman, who stands for truth and righteousness and doesn't crumble under pressure!
If Stella needs to fight any of this stupidity in the courts and sets up a legal fund, let us know and I'll be there ready to donate.
Completely unacceptable on the part of the university. I would expect this will definitely severely damage its reputation throughout the world
The students of St Andrew's have a moral duty to step up and challenge the University and this KC directly to reinstate the rector immediately. We all had a duty to refuse to accept the IHRA definition of anti-semitism in our institutions. If both of these interventions were enacted, this unjust situation would not have arisen, legally or legitimately. It's not too late. Humanity depends on what the majority do. People have the power.
Absolutely brilliant, Owen!
Thank you for being a shining light of truth in these dark times
Less respect for St. Andrews and Scotland. 👎
You'll find similar happening around Oxford, you know. All the safe space nonsense too.
This is OUTRAGEOUS 😡. I know that Zarah Sultana will be deeply angered by this injustice too.
Happy 5th birthday, Ariel. Still held by Jones´ buddies.
This is outrageous.
Well said Owen.
Would love to know Lady Morag Ross KCs position is on individuals going to Gaza and actually committing war crimes!!! The manipulation of anti semitism has to be stopped.
I'd love to know her home address so I could send her a symbol of my affection for her values.....(SARK!!)
This is insanity. Since when did promoting humanity & peace become a controversial stance ?
Well unfortunately we all know the answer to that. It was October 7th 2023.
Well done, Owen!
Sadly you cannot express your worries nowadays without backlash.
Absolutely excellent Owen ❤😊
It's shameful that these entities are being allowed to silence and take away our 1st amendment rights as an American citizen. I hope she can sued all involved in this travesty. She was speaking out against the genocidal slaughtering of defenseless innocent Palatinian. 🤔🤐
She should sue and get millions
If it was not for the fact that this KC is likely to be representative of the entire UK legal system.
This was slanderous behaviour from morag ross..see you In court ross
@@reasontruthandlogicwe still have the ECHR?!
Then put your money where your fingers are. I hope you can cover her’s as well as your own costs. Don’t be a Simpleton all your life.
oJ, I just want to sincerely thank you, from like the depths of my soul, for your fierce and frank journalism throughout this trauma. You are truly special. We need you, as a long time follower, first time commenter, you deserve at least a short break for self care. ❤
Solidarity Stella ✊️✊️✊️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The tribe owns the Universities.
No, the State does, as they provide the most funding. However, the politicians are controlled by the Tribe, so the same outcome eventuates.
@@rhysjaggar4677 Same thing.
The Tribe shame on you, total hypocrites, going on about racism, when you are clearly racists yourselves
Who is the “tribe”? Are you a member of the other “tribe” I know of many “tribes”
@@richardhead3062 you know precisely what I mean, grow up, your @name is spot on!
Just remember “We’re All Palestinians” but most people are just getting to know this fact….❤️🍉🇵🇸
So I'm Palestinian?
@@mannylikestoanimate yup 👍
Elle peut se faire virer, au moins elle a sa conscience pour elle. Merci à cette femme courageuse et humaine ! 😘
So you are not allowed to call out fascists and war crimes in a democracy that "values" free speach?
Yes you are, but only if they are allies of Vladimir Putin!
There is no such thing as free speech the sooner the sheeps realize this the better.
StbAndrews is the most Tory uni in Scotland.
League of its own.
how can she possibly be charged for agreeing with the UN?? Her words were truthful and the Israelis are finding this attrocious behaviour of the IDF etc. just too appalling to be true..
The K.C.'s report is absurd because it prevents a rector criticising literally any atrocity, in case people on one side or another get upset. However, the ban is very obviously unique to atrocities committed by one country. Did anything similar happen in British universities at the time of Apartheid, in case white South African students felt "unsafe"? I'm in Australia, married to a Russian, and I can tell you that nobody in our government said anything about the danger of Russophobia when Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukrainian flags were flying everywhere. I assume it was similar in Britain.
This report will go the way of court proceedings trying to convict Alex Salmond. It will go right to the top of Scottish Government and the KC concerned will unfortunately find that their reputation for legal soundness to have been flushed a very long way down into the depths of somewhat insanitary rabbit holes.....
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 🇬🇧 🇵🇸
Yes, Palestine will be free
@@Thebabadook1313 it's inevitable
@Shiri-Rast from...?
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xxIzreal
Absolutely outrageous what happened to freedom of speech!
Shame on St Andrews
Well done Ms Maris......brave, honorable lady.
Thanks for your awesome reporting as always, Owen; you're one of my best sources now, right up there with Democracy Now! and TYT!
Was it St Andrews friends of Israel that complained LOL
Shin Bet/Mossad junior trainees sent to study there more likely.....
You bet.
Thanks owen always on point!☘️💚
Orwell story unfolds in front of our eyes
More available speaking out is available more hard different interests will try to suppress it
Owen or someone, please send the link to this EXCELLENT video to everyone in power at this
university. I also hope this case be widely reported on. They need to be criticized and shamed.
How much funding does St Andrews get from the Israeli Lobby I wonder 2:07
❤❤❤ bless this brave truth seeking lady 🎉
Owen, I support your valiant efforts absolutely and proudly.
Thank you Owen on behalf of Palestine, on behalf of Justice !
the hypocrysy is sickening!
I'm an alumnus of Aberdeen University. I'm outraged by this decision by the St Andrews University Court. Whoever this KC is should be thinking about her irresponsibility and her position.
She is doing her job. Members of my family have defended murderers and rapists and managed to get some acquitted, its the nature of the job. I presume you are not an ignoramus. Its a job and she gets paid to do it.
Thanks
Owen I love your fire and sense of justice. Fresh air to me. Give me hope for the future.
Evil is-real
Critical of Israel and it's crimes means you lose your job,what hypocrisy,
They only want the kids to learn the war crimes from history, not those they are currently committing.
Thank you for keeping enlightening us and dedending justice and truth
Morag Ross KC and St Andrews - Shameful
Lock her up.
Anyone watching war movies from the US will remember how horrifying it is doing field surgery without anesthesia, the soldiers cried like a baby. Contrasted that with Gaza, the movies themselves became abhorrent.
St Andrew is rotating on his cross, 'This is not what I died for' & 'Shame on those misrepresenting my name and ignoring my teacher's teachings'
He who pays the piper.
People are more united now
it's not enough..... we will be talked like the part of history where we left this happen in our sight.... so sad what the world became.
@shahankhan7685 United, Especially after winning the FA Cup and beating the corrupt 115 club.