The Detroit Pistons Biggest Problem
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2023
- Discussing why the Detroit Pistons are so bad and what’s really holding them back
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I'm sorry, but this take on the Pistons it's really off the mark.
1- Coaching staff NEEDS to be held accountable in large part for this. Monty had no desire to coach and he's showing it clearly. He plays bad line-ups and seems like he's just bidding his time until he gets fired just so he can enjoy that money for his contract sitting confortably at home in his couch. I mean, playing Stewart at the 4? Really? Anyone with eyes can see it's an absolute atrocity. Plus, Monty is known for getting into conflicts with young players and robbing them of their confidence. The shit he did in Phoenix is the same shit he's doing now with Ivey and Ausar. It's just shameful to watch.
2- The front office also needs to be held accountable as well, for trying to force a coach who didn't want the job into getting it, plus making some of the dumbest acquisitions in recent years, like Bagley and Wiseman. They are piss poor players whom their teams soon found out that they were not NBA caliber players and sought to dump them at the first chance they got to any idiot who would have them, which in this case was the Detroit Pistons. They have one pretty decent Center in Duren and then 3 others who are just plain terrible. There is no other way to say this other than this is just a perfect example of what piss poor management looks like.
3- The lack of shooting to provide floor spacing for Cade to operate is another great example at how bad this roster has been assembled. Some people have been taking shots at Cade claiming that maybe he isn't all that good. Guess what, he's the second player in the NBA who suffers more Blitzes, only being topped by Luka. That's how much the other teams don't really respect the remaining squad as it is constructed and quickly realized that if they're able to stop Cade there's nothing the rest of the team can do. Are we really pretending that teams are concerned with guys like Hayes and Stewart when they're sharing the court at the same time as Cade? You just need to watch a game to realise that they just don't care.
Yes, lack of confidence as hit them hard and they're having a hard time getting over the hump, but the main fault is the poor management decisions on roster construction and the absolutely terrible coaching that we're being forced to witness.
@pedromarques2077 - GOSSIP GIRL!!
we already saw the signs w monty on the suns. Burned bridges w ayton after misuing him, blew it in the 2nd round, twice, and the 2021 chokejob
I see all facts. There is no spacing and the actions they be running be 🗑️
THANK YOU!!! How the hell do people expect Cade to operate when he’s sharing the floor w Hayes who stink!! Monty states he doesn’t play players who keep making mistakes… HAYES HAS BEEN GARBAGE AND I CANT DEFEND HIM NOMORE!! He’s stunting Ivey growth and now he’s tarnishing Ausar case to win roty man🤦🏾♂️ how is our best defender and main player that gives 110 percent every night not seeing the floor like before ?? Ridiculous. Sasser is out the rotation now and he was showing promising signs. But everyone will blame Cade lol
Stewart is a 4. He offers ZERO rim protection as a 5. Lineups with him at the five get absolutely roasted. He's even worse than Bagley as a rim protector. But he should be playing like 18-25 very tailored minutes against specific looks now that Bogey is back. He's a sand wedge and Monty is using him like pitching wedge. He's a specialty player, not a utilitarian one.
Cade is definitely part of the problem. Most of those blitzes are from early in the season. Then teams realized Cade can't actually shoot well enough to warrant that coverage. But he also couldn't get anything good out of those traps. Even lesser passers can make that skip pass when they get two on the ball. (Although having Ivey or Ausar as the outlet player would have helped.) Right now he's much better in a multi-ball handler offense where he can work off ball. Especially with Ivey since he can actually get paint touches and they can play off each other.
This roster is certainly not ideal for Cade, but if you need everything set up perfectly for you to succeed, well you're more Jared Goff than Jalen Hurts and I don't think the aspiration was for Cade to be a game manager.
The roster -- I think not having any two-way vets is a problem but you don't pass on talent in the draft for high floor, low ceiling guys who fit a need. That's how we got Luke Kennard over Mitchell and Bam. Give me Ivey and Ausar 1000 times over. Ivey, Cade, Ausar, Duren works fine. Just not if you pretend Cade is Luka. Poor shooting is less of a problem if you have freak athletes who can beat teams on the glass and cut into space when defenders leave them. It's ideal to have a lot of shooting, but you can succeed without it.
That's where Monty comes in. Or doesn't, unfortunately, because his lineup combinations and how he deploys them don't actually accentuate what these players *can* do but instead he puts them in positions where the lack of shooting is exposed. (Though it's been better the last two weeks. Unfortunately Duren and Bogey have played all of two games together.)
Although if Monte Morris were healthy and getting Killian's minutes the offense would run a lot smoother. That was a bad break on a roster that *really* needs a veteran floor general.
I get the sinking feeling that when Monty told the Pistons that he really "didn't want to coach" this year - that he was telling the truth. It seems like in record time under Monty's tutelage this young core has completely lost its confidence - lost its focus and lost any hope for the future.
Bingo. Thanks Tom Gores!
Yup. He doesn’t give af because he got the money he wanted , now he’s gonna ruin our culture
Comment assumes facts not in evidence.
@@J.Ragland-hz1eryour mother assumes facts with no evidence mouth breather
I mean I would do something I wouldn't wanna do for that much $$$$$$$$
The pistons have become the team no one wants to lose to as well.
😂😂😂 for real. Especially the other bad teams to show “we’re bad but not pistons bad”
Yeah, the losing streak has reached the point where no team wants to suffer the embarrassment of being the first team to lose to the Pistons. 😂 They will play with extra focus, compared to if the losing streak was just like 10 games.
As a Pelicans fan, this sounds like exactly the kind of shit the Pelicans would do. It would be hilarious if the Pistons randomly beat a good team to break the streak. I’m hoping we at least see history first.
It's definitely the coach. You can tell he doesn't like his players, doesn't care about the city, and isn't passionate enough about his team. The front office literally said he came for the money and job security. I think he needs a good kick to the butt. Hopefully there is some provisions in his contract to get rid of him
@imnotcrazyforeal2706 - NO. I CANNOT tell what you are telling me to tell. I have this habit. It's called thinking for myself.
Agreed. Just look at the players faces they look finished. They don’t like him
they kept the same core if not upgraded by drafting ausuar. and yet theyre projected to having the worst record in history. theres more hope for the spurs
@@J.Ragland-hz1er You look like Montie's ghost account
@@kenlang1070 But you can't call me a LIAR, MISTAKEN, MISINFORMED, A GOSSIPMONGER, OR DELUSIONAL.
I believe these players have given up on Monty and are actively trying to get him fired.
I believe that happened in Phoenix...
@@husq48 You're right.
Lmao Monty said he didn’t want to be here but they offered him so much money he couldn’t say no, if anything it’s the other way around, the idea that a team consisting of guys who are still trying to establish themselves in the league are purposely willing to go into the record books as the worst team of all time just because they might not like their coach makes no sense
@@matthewcade4249 Same with Deshaun Watson and the Browns!
Should never have been hired in the first place. The Rockets landed the dude worth hiring.
Monty killed this team.
No, Troy did, long before Monty even arrived.
@@scottwickett1273 no! it was u darling. please leave :"(
As a fan, this season feels like a fever dream.
Happened so fast.
I actually have empathy for you guys not sure why
Hmm, don’t you have to blame the coaching staff for the psychology of the team?
I think coaches and players should share the accountability as a whole
I put it on the coach. It’s the coach’s job to get the most out of the players. Right now, he’s getting the absolute minimum. He needs to adjust his teaching and communication and find a way to get through to them. He took the bag, he needs to figure it out.
Partially. These guys are all grown men and professionals who need to take accountability for how they show up and perform as well.
@kneelpdx1 - Don't you have to actually KNOW the players to KNOW their mentality?
😂😂😂 y’all don’t watch pistons games these lineups are terrible. This mf is definitely making things worse than they already are
Fire the coach & GM! I am a huge Pistons fan and this sucks The last decade has been hard for every Detroit team for every major sport tigers, Red Wings lions.
Pretty brutal
Owner sell team too
@@DetroitEast yes immediately!
A "fan" supports the ENTIRE TEAM. One CANNOT support only part of a TEAM and be a truly supportive fan. That is a CONTROL FREAK.
Be patient the wings are coming
This is the problem with the full rebuild. As a Chicago Blackhawks fan, I fear the team coming to the arena expecting to lose every night. It’s no fun, it brings out the worst in everybody in the locker room, and you risk harming the development of your young prospects. Top prospects will likely have no experience losing all the time, and doing it in the pro spotlight will be terrible for the players’ confidence. And when you’re trying to make it as a pro, what’s more important than confidence?
I agree. As a bulls fan this is why I'm not a fan of tanking
Man as a a rockets fan our fanbases were in the trenches together and I really felt a sense of camaraderie with my pistons tank brothers. Now I have survivors guilt whenever I look at box scores
As a pistons fan rooting for y’all to make playoffs❤️
LOL AT "TANK BROTHERS"
Pistons fan here…
Good to see the rockets are playing a winning brand of basketball again. Sengun is looking like that guy
Monty will get paid regardless now. He didn't want to coach but he couldn't turn down 70 million dollars. He's the coach by name but he isn't coaching or developing them.
Exactly
The "he didn't want to coach" garbage rumors came from Marc Stein's ANONYMOUS "NBA INSIDER" and Brian Windhorst's ANONYMOUS "NBA INSIDER". Now WHAT or WHO is an "NBA INSIDER"? The person that scrapes gum off the bottoms of seats in an Arena is an "NBA INSIDER". The person that scrubs toilets is a " NBA INSIDER". A journalist treats a custodian to lunch then says to the custodian: Tell me that Monty Williams doesn't want to Coach.
Custodian: Monty Williams doesn't want to coach.
Journalist: Thank you. You're now an NBA INSIDER.
Custodian: DO FRIES COME WITH THAT?
@@J.Ragland-hz1er but it looks to be true
@@teehud313 Do you know what negotiations are? Did you know that in order for negotiations to be officially underway the initial offer must be turned down? Let that sink in. If turning down the first initial offer means someone didn't want to coach or play, my guess is that would apply to most if not all coaches. How many do you think accepted the very first offer?
@@teehud313 Who doesn't turn down the first offer? That simply means he negotiated a contract. All players and coaches do it. Or should I say their AGENTS DO? It seems like you looking through some white is right tinted glasses. Believing in any source but Tom Gores RUclips channel or other actual Pistons.
A team's psyche is 100% the responsibility of the coach, especially on such a young team. Monty should decide if he actually wants to coach or give the money back and step down.
GET YOUR OWN TEAM. THEN you can CALL THE SHOTS and say who YOU "think" is responsible for a team's supposed psyche. TEAM PSYCHE... sounds like the BORG from Star Trek who all shared thoughts. This ain't STAR TREK! Each Person that plays for the Pistons has their own mind.
Troy Weaver wasted 3 years of the rebuild and got a lot worse tbh.
Record aside, you can't convince me we were better with Drummond and Reggie Jackson as our core
@@noahm7977 Y'all were on purgatory when Drummond Griffin and Reggie were your core of the future. Aussar, Sasser Ivey and Durren should be the present and future.
That team with Drummond and Blake got to the Playoffs after a few years of being a bum team.@@noahm7977
Its clearly coaching. Everytime I see Detroit bring the ball up and 7 seconds into the shot clock someone passes the ball to Isaiah Stewart for a stop & pop 3, I instantly throw up from how much they all STINK!!!
FACTS
@meech6848 - You throw up in advance. Congratulations to you on SENTENCING YOURSELF TO THROW UP... JUDGE. Judge not, lest YOU END UP BEING THE FOOL WHO SERVES THE SENTENCE, which in this case, is throwing up. Stop judging and you won't get sick.
If it is psychological. I blame it on the coaching staff.
and of course the Bulls are one of 2 teams they've beaten so far lmao
Everyday i hope i can get those 5 free wingstop wings 😭
😂😂
Might as well just buy them at this point
Listening to you while watching a brick compilation is hilarious.
As a Toronto fan (who is just waiting for my team to be blown up), I watch Detroit games (and media) for the schadenfreude of watching history be made in the worst possible way.
Question for you though: How long is this streak going to last in your opinion?
😂😂
I put some highlights in there too
Schadenfreude!?😱😱😱
10 thousand dullah wordle, sah 😀
The need a coach that can develop young talent.
@kingsgaurd - The Pistons coach has nothing to do with development. Development occurs at the Pistons Performance Center. What's used during playing time should ALREADY BE DEVELOPED. PLAYING TIME IS WHEN A PLAYER LEARNS WHEN, WHERE, AND WHO TO USE WHAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED AGAINST.
Being a Pistons fan myself is rough 😕
Lol. Embrace da suk
Hang in there bud 😭
@@mr.kwamid-86_43 🤣🤣🤣 it's been like this since they traded away Billups
@@bigbangbasketball I been a Pistons fan my whole life so ofc I'm hanging in there 💀
As a pistons fan, it’s easier to handle it when you take into account what Weaver started his tenure with asset wise. The Pistons rebuild isn’t equal to Magic or Rockets rebuild so I can’t exactly be too upset considering Weaver had to start from literally scratch
Them not having their vets in the lineup hurts a young team who's trying to figure out what it takes to win night in and night out!
I would've like to see how they would've started out if they had Joe Harris, Monte Morris, and Bogdanavic from the start of the season!!
They should have kept Jerami Grant and Bey,
They need to play Ausar more. I don't care if he fouls out. Play him as much as possible. The kid has a motor and is one of your best defenders. 18 minutes a game is WAY too low.
When the coach tells you he didn’t want to come or be there, please believe them. Monty is the problem!
Detroit and Monty Williams need to negotiate a buyout. That will solve lots of problems. Plus other coaches will not demand outrageous salaries when interviewing for a coaching job.
@sting114 - Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but Owners own teams for the rest of their life. For Gores it could easily be another 40 years. You really think a MULTI-BILLIONAIRE will make decisions based on 26 games? Him MULTIBILLIONAIRE, YOU NOT.
@@J.Ragland-hz1er mark Jackson or Stan van gundy would have taken that job for 90 % less money and have a better record
@sting114 - 🎼🎶🎵woulda, could, should
woulda,could, shoulda,
Don't exist. GET REAL(ITY).
@@sting114 FACTS on Mark Jackson
media pundits aren't a good metric for what real ppl think lol
i dont think anyone really thought the pistons would be anything this year
Sure, but even myself, I didn’t think they would be this bad. They have a lot of talent
Adding monty who transformed the suns from being in mid purgatory along with cp3 you would think that he knows how to work with young line ups and work his magic from there but this one is a new low even before monty got here
@@nastyeggplant yeah, monty wasn't gonna be able to save this lol
@@And.One.Hoops1 oh for sure. Not this bad. But it's still early. Maybe the get 30 wins before the season is done 😆
No one expected the Pistons to be good, but they weren't supposed to be worse than last year where they won 17 games
I think by far the biggest issue the pistons are facing is the rotations. After about 5 minutes to start every game, we sub in the entire bench for another 5 minutes. No starters - zero. None. This puts us in a 15-25 point hole every single time we do it, because our bench players are not NBA caliber talents. That is the biggest problem - the spiral is real, but the rotations are the real killer.
It’s part of the process. I’ve seen 17-win teams with a lot less talents turn it around. The good news is they have a lot of young talents. Now it’s a matter of finding the right players to match the young talents.
Well, from what I read before this season, that's what the last 2 seasons were for... and this season they were supposed to be much more improved.
@@TheAmeriCanuck that’s all true. It doesn’t mean next year they won’t make significant improvements. It’s not a guarantee but it can happen. One good free agent signing, with a little bit of luck, continues to draft to fit your system and young players. Next year you can be where you wanted to be this year and go from there. Sometimes you take a step back in order to take two steps forward.
it’s definitely the coaching staff and front office to blame for this
Calling jaden Ivey a steal in present day is blasphemy
You said it isn't the front offices fault but it is. Just like every small market team your job is to put butts in seats. And in the process of being "SORRY" you get lucky in the draft. It's just like Philly all those tanking years. Just "Trust The Process"
Very insightful. More breaking news: water is wet. It is obvious t hey are mentally in a trench. The questions are how did this happen, given the expectations, and how do they get out?
It's honestly a bad perfect storm. Horrible injury luck to key guys since the start of the season, great parity with no one actively tanking, and possibly the wrong coach. I don't doubt the talent on this team (the reason for the solid projections before the year started) but it's snowballed at this point and it's difficult to watch. I think it's a bad idea to fire Troy Weaver because most of the moves have been good. Monty really needs to do something to get this turned around but I'd evaluate that at season's end. Of course we're all outside looking in so we don't actually KNOW what's going on.
It's not even just the lack of tanking teams but the changes the NBA made to make the regular season matter have worked. It feels like teams are playing a lot harder.
Combine that with the fact that teams are so much more efficient now and it's just harder for bad teams to win.
Especially when the coach insists on burying the most talented player on the team. Ivey is the one guy on the roster who can inject some variance.
You lose 1 or 2 games when you have a real chance to win and suddenly you're losing 23 straight
You can’t be a title contender if you can never even sniff the conference finals.
I'm a Rockets fan so I understand. I think it's a mixture of being young, the right kind of vets, Cade is a stud but he hasn't played in 2 years and nowhere close to his full potential.
This losing streak only makes HC Monty's win-loss record looks bad.
These kids need veterans to guide them. Having Bojan Bogdanovic and Joe Harris is not enough
On a team where the majority of players have come from winning teams and championships in High School and College. Going into such an environment of consistent losing, can have a devastating toll on ones mental health and long term abilities. Like a man who has been constantly rejected on Tinder dates over and over, the results are traumatic. You can see the look of, okay guys so how badly are we going to lose tonight? is the ultimate Seinfeld mentality of Serenity Now
You have to at least TRY to play D in order to win in the league..almost nobody plays good D on this team
This dude really said it’s not the coaching or front office.
Sir what in the hell are you talking about? This is literally the worst built roster in the league, and Monty is not putting players in advantageous positions, he just throws Ivey in the corner for twenty minutes. Ivey is one of the most explosive play makers on the team plus he starts Kilian Hayes over him and plays him more.
There is some very bad coaching associated with this team, so I disagree. First of all, 3 point shooting at this level involves motor memory. There is something wrong with their practices. If I had to guess, I would say, there is just not a total emphasis on shooting....too much coaching, as in over coaching. Secondly is that they really don't play defense. Look at the distance between the piston players and the opposing players out in the 3 point area. We are late to guard and don't know how to guard closely. It is weird, but I blame this on the coaching. If someone gets around a piston, he then basically is free to drive to the hoop or pick up a foul, their rotation is terrible. Jaden Ivy does not know how to make a pull up shot and he only drives to his right. He is blocked at the basket routinely. If you took away his lay-ups, you would see a player who cannot score. He is not improving. He needs to develop other shots or he needs to sit. Our tallest player, James Wiseman is told never to drive to the basket. After giving a block, he often stands back, rarely is available for the pick and role....as important, he needs to shoot the 3 point shot. He has a shot. He needs to drive and they need to pass to him. Marcus Sasser, should start as the second guard. They should pass to Ausar Thompson more so that he can be more involved in the offense...........................my point is, coaching sucks. The coach is not making our players better, he is making them scared and they are not playing for him. Consider why he was fired in his last job.
I can't believe u said it's not Troy Weaver or the over paid and over rated Monty Williams. They both play a MAJOR role in this historically bad team. You can talk physique as the main reason, but this team was constructed terribly. Besides Cunningham and Bogdanovic none of the Pistons starters would start for any other NBA team. I could break down every player, but there's not enough room on this comment sheet.
Free Bojan
The Pistons aren't bad the NBA is just that good. Shoot if it's 3-4 years ago the Pistons making the playoffs.
They are the only team that's 5 years away. If they stay together they finna be like that
As a Pistons fan this is cap, this is Monty’s and more so the front offices fault. This team is constructed bad, we literally have no wings, we have no shooting and have no centers that can defend. You draft a guy with the #1 pick and don’t even construct a team around him that compliments his play style. You draft a guy at #5 and then keep him on the bench because he doesn’t “play defense” and then go on to have the worse defense in the league with him on the bench. You play Hayes like he has compromising pictures of you and then to cap it off you have a coach that literally said he only came here for the money lol.
Wow, they paid Monty $78 million for an average coaching job at Phoenix.
It's because the brought back the teal jerseys back last year and that has still cursed this year.
The Pistons are an example of why the NBA used to covet good college players who had 3-4 years of success. Or at least an example of why teams were hesitant to draft young guys.
Pretty much all their lottery guys are ones who never learned how to shoot & were able to just be more athletic and bigger for HS and one year of college. They get to the NBA and it’s not enough to win games.
Thankfully, I think the guys are of better character than Simmons or Zion, but who knows. Once these guys get paid, it usually just gets worse from there.
@PharaohsNews - 22 year old shooters are 22. A 25 yr old shooter that has taken 1K JUMPERS a day has taken over a million more jumpers over those 3 years. There is no SHORTCUT TO THAT EXTRA MILLION JUMPERS.
22yrs on the planet is not 25yrs on the planet.
This equation applies to CARDIO as well, which is why you don't see 22yr olds winning MARATHONS.🤔🤨
I always thought Monty was terrible hire but I actually think it's Cade's job to get them a win. Great players sometimes can just will the team to a win regardless of the coaching staff.
No one expect Cade to carry them every single game but for just 1 game out of 20+?? Come on, if your franchise player can't carry your team to 1 win out of 20+, he's not much of a franchise player.
As much as people bash Lebron, he would singlehandly carry some of those terrible Cavs team to wins
I really hope the pistons break the record
The problem IS the coach that didn't want to be here. Just for the money. The team problem is poor coaching of the offensive structure. Pointing fingers at the players in interviews. Making them feel down on themselves. The bigs do not utilize the midrange game. Constantly open at the foul line for a jump shot. That would open the driving lane for Cade, Ivey and others. The bigs do not know how to play their man and the ball. The coach let the refs think the team is tanking. He is not fighting for his players. They have slow feet on defense. Pass getting through the lane too easily. He need to go for someone that want to be here.
My gut tells me, they should trade either Chris Paul or Patrick Beverley. Someone who can rally a locker room.
Honestly they’re not playing Ivey or Ausur enough, they rather play Strasser, Livers and Hayes
Nobody on the pistons deserve a nba contract, maybe Cunningham can get a mid level contract but no way does he deserve a max contract. All these players r terrible not include the 1st or 2nd yr players they r still too young
He just dropped 40+, you jacka$$
They’re way too dependent on Cade to create when he has shown very little to indicate he’s able to consistently do that at a high level.
@PharaohsNews - You are MISTAKEN! Cade's PLAYMAKING results in OPEN SHOTS. It's not Cade's fault that his teammates miss.
@@J.Ragland-hz1er the reason these guys are open is because teams know they can’t shoot.
@PharaohsNews - This assumes a team and coach would tolerate bad defensive habits. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
Players that just "leave opponents open" will be subbed out, or else VERY HORRIBLE HABITS BECOME INGRAINED. NO COACH ALLOWS IT. THE COACH WOULD LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY, AS SECOND UNIT PLAYERS SIT AND WATCH STARTERS GET AWAY WITH POOR DEFENSE. SEE THE PROBLEM?
Who is going to make the playoffs first lions or pistons
Young studs? Pls show me who is stud? Marvin Bagley III, James Wiseman, they can't even be bench players on other teams... Jaden Ivey, he isn't starter on this team... Isaiah Stewart, Killian Hayes are just bad. Alec Burks, Joe Harris WTF are they still in the league?
They are all bad players and yes this is front office fault, mostly.
When I remember Pistons vs Lakers finals, my God how good it was C. Billups, R. Wallace, B. Wallace, T. Prince, R. Hamilton... I've got tears in my eyes.
that's nonsense. An entire team can't have the yips. Watch them play. The players are comically bad on defense, but a lot of them play very very hard every play. Killian Hayes plays very hard, but he's bad at everything, can't even make layups. James Wiseman is comically bad at defense but he just doesn't know what he's supposed to do. Every single play he's caught in no man's land. Bojan is a vet. He gives you vet effort every game and never gives up. He plays like he's being paid to play. Jaden Ivy though probably lost a lot of his confidence because the coach has no confidence in him. Now of course it's true that the team plays its hardest in the 1st quarter, when they think "Oh we might win this one" but a lot of the reason they get shut down is just how aware the other team is of the piston's deficiencies. Every single team in the NBA knows that they will get that scarlet letter if they are the first loss to this pistons team so they try their best to blow out the pistons in the first half. The other teams are bringing maximum effort to beat this team.
There are two teams that you will find yourself giving maximum effort against. One is the previous champion. You want to beat them. The other is the worst team in the history of the NBA. You don't want to lose to them. Give some props to our opponents. They try hard to beat this terrible pistons team. Of course, after the 1st quarter, when they are ahead by 20 they do start to loaf. But if the pistons ever make a run and threaten to win, the other team puts their foot on the pistons throat and stops it.
I'm convinced this team plays hard. They are just bad. There's only one person on the entire team that can shoot the ball and he's 34 years old.
the reason this team sucks is that at the end of the day this isn't about X's and O's and defense and leaping out of the gym drawing fouls and playing hard. At the end of the day one team puts the ball in the hoop. The other team doesn't. This miserable pistons team can't put the ball in the hoop. They can't even make layups.
@bonerici - The Pistons have played SIX SETS of 3 Games in 4 Nights; WAS and SAN have played only 2 SETS of 3 games in 4 nights.
The Pistons are exhausted, fatigued. Fatigue makes poor defenders of us all.
true. let's get a little rest and then get a win! It would ble nice not to beat that awful philly record for most losses in a row.
@@bonerici Soon I hope. I heard a few games back that Coach Mont had them practicing daily, even on game days. They'll eventually come out stronger.
Great video, but as a fan of this team, you’re forgetting one thing. Ownership. Tom Gores is a horrible owner and us fans would rather have the likes of James Dolan, Glen Taylor, and Robert Sarver. The state of this team’s management makes Bill Davidson roll over in his grave.
I agree that our mental state when it comes to competitiveness is defeated, but we have to look at the source. It’s Monty. Early first 10 games we were still putting up a fight. But Monty bald ass jus ruined the whole teams chemistry. Killed the teams confidence. I believe now they’re losing on purpose to get em outta der. Weaver gotta go too
Is he really that bad? I always thought he was a good coach
@@And.One.Hoops1 I thought the same as well. But I see why Phx got rid of him. The same issues w not making any adjustments , rotations , actually coaching , the things we didn’t speak on in phx he is doing it with us except now we can see it. He even stated he didn’t want to go to Detroit no matter what. But our stupid owners and Gms did whatever it takes and paid this man the most in history just for him to get bought out and he can go home and relax now. Really absurd. And if they trade away Ivey to satisfy a coach who doesn’t give a Fucc I might just have to go to the facility my self
They killed these young guy’s confidence everyone knew Philadelphia was going to be horrible , no one knew Detroit was going to be this god awful …..the talent is their mint lost this locker room.
Poorly constructed roster, bad front office who didn’t capitalize on free agency last year. Like bro the roster if you saw it at the beginning of this season had issue alot. Lack of depth shooters and wings it’s embarrassing
Their injuries have been pretty bad.. cade missed all of last season.. bogy is just now coming back from injury.. Duren has been injured all year.. Killian hayes and marvin bagley both have had serious injuries in their short NBA careers.. not to mention joel harris
yeah but Bagley and Wiseman are BIG BUSTS in the league. Funny how a few years ago they also gambled on Jahlil Okafor. If they're not careful, Duren and Ausar could become huge busts too in their own right.
I remember Detroit Media was talking so much ish about Sacramento for giving them Bagley and Jayden Ivey . Look at you now media 😂
Monty wanna get fired up to get compensation; front office draft and trade is suck for getting wiseman and Bagley when the roster already has Isaiah and Duran, guard use Hayes instead of Ivey, wings is like the worse (bojan is old, Thompson has D only, Knox is like a random player who doesn’t have anymore potential to grow
Players don’t wanna be the student of the game no more.
Monty, the front office, and the owner are to blame 100%. This is all on them.
Team took a bet on Cade and Ivey to be dogs but no there Bust
No wonder they have problems with Eric Andre on the court. You got Kraft Dunk’d!
bro casually added a montage of Isaiah stewart missing threes 😭
Lol, my bad
The words generational talent are thrown around so much these days. Zion, cade, wemby. Even back in the day wiggins, simmons etc.
Generational is once every 20-30 years. Not 5 times every 10 years.
Look at the past champions.
Raptors no lottery picks.
Lakers.
Free agency and a trade.
Bucks best player was pick 15
Second best was a trade.
Third best second round pick.
Warriors was drafted yes. But drafting at picks 7,11 and the second round. Even poole end of first round.
Then the nuggets. Best player was in the second round.
The only teams that draft high and keep their players dont win.
Look at the sixers.
The draft is a crapshoot shopting at blanks most of the time
this is such an annyoing "get to the point" video that you're BLOCKED bruh lol
Cry about it, go watch something else
want to know why this video sucks? Why is it that after making many videos this guy still hasn't figured out how to stop repeating himself ad nauseum so a two minute video becomes ten minutes long? There are a lot of reasons this could be true. Yes, he's bad at videos. But does that really explain why the video is so bad? One minute into the video you wonder, is this going to go on like this? Then, after two minutes, you think it again? What is it that leads someone to make such a shitty video? Maybe he didn't pay attention in school. But does that really explain it? ... @@And.One.Hoops1
@@pkiley111 Satisfaction guaranteed, or your money back! (Asshole.)
Considering the feedback and growth on the channel, I think you're in the minority given people like to background and context behind a given topic. You don't have to like it. Doesn't make it bad video either
3:58 Arent they still trying to tank??? So it does even matter? The team is putting those players on the meat grinder and profiting from their agony like a Darkest Dungeon Campaign. The team is more important, people like Wemby is all that matter, they can be disposed.
I disagree, we have a lot of young talent, top three youngest team in the NBA. Yea a terrible season, not a terrible future though
The owner gm coaches training staff all need to go
No one who actually lives in Detroit talks about Detroit like this. All the viewers and even the people who comment sound like they don't even live in Detroit how would you like it if I talked about how they let Giannis special ed brother play for Milwaukee or how Washington only won like 3 games more than the pistons 😮
These teams who are taking to get the number one pick in the NBA need to get rid of the GMS especially the ones who have big Market teams. Analytics and gang of draft picks they don't need. Learn from the Clippers and OKC do not work
What made you think Ivey was a steal
I say make Ivey your point guard, Bogie, Cade and Ausar your wings, and Duran your center. Period.
Ivey needs to be more used more in general
This team has a ton of talent , they just hella inconsistent
The main issue is Monty Williams.
As a spurs fan I can relate
Maybe fire Pop lol
and on top of all that they paid the coach a BAG
Monty Williams. Easy answer. They had less talent last season, they were more competitive while trying to lose. That should speak volumes. They did not have Cade, or Ausur or Sasser. That is a ton of talent, scoring, and defense to add to a team that was competitive a good portion of last season. Beef Stew as a stretch 4 is a ridiculous experiment (they did do that last season). Hayes as a starter is also ridiculous. Most of these players roles were known, Hayes thrived in his last season. Now he is back to inconsistently contributing, playing lousy team defense but more importantly, he doesn't fit with those players. He is a PG, Cade is a PG. They need to play their natural positions. Ivey is a scoring guard. None of this should be as difficult as this jacka$$ coach has made it. He is an idiot and the actual only real issue. Nothing else matters, it is coaching. These same players, with less help, played better last season. There's no counter argument to that either. It is the coach then and that is blatantly obvious.
Lmfao those Sixers I remember em 😭
Bro wtf are you talking about? Cade was NOT a generational talent. He was a worse prospect than Luka and he went third.
Cade was one of the worst prospects of the last 10 years to go #1. He wasn't in the same stratosphere as actual generational prospects like Victor and LeBron.
Go back and read what people were saying about Cade before he was drafted
You lie, they lost to the Milwaukee Bucks by only 2 a couple weeks ago or maybe a month ago. It was 120-118. Get your facts right, I watched that game I live in Wisconsin
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Hamidou Diallo one he should be on this team for his energy alone. I just feel like Monty Williams isn't a good coach, he went to finals yes with Chris Paul and book but after that season they lost both times in second round badly too, I might add. Ivey and Ayton have a lot in common when it comes to Monty! He walks in the building acting like he's Phil Jackson or Pat riley and loses players that way. just look how he treated Ivey who had a great rookie season and we was better last year and 3 players werent even on the team last year!!! Monty excuse is defense but last i checked everyone is having a career year against us! So what D, is he talking about and i thought your supposed to coach your guy's up!!!
This is the internet now, and youtube. Folks who didn't even play JV basketball are certain they know the problem. I guess this has replaced sports talk radio...
CC is clearly not generational talent, not even close.
One word: Cade
Their biggest problem is Monty Williams.
Wasn’t the bobcats the worst team in history?
They’re lucky it was a lockout season that year Soo this pistons team might surpass them
Yeah, but it was a lockout season. I was referring to the worst team in NBA history for a full 82 game season
@@And.One.Hoops1 ahhhhh okay
As if EVERY TEAM with the WORST W-L RECORD FACED EQUAL TALENT. THESE Pistons are facing FIFTEEN PLAYER TEAMS, and are a FIFTEEN PLAYER TEAM.
OLDER 12 PLAYER TEAMS WITH THE WORST RECORDS OF EACH SEASON WOULD BEAT THE FIFTEEN PLAYER PISTONS?
LUDICROUS CLAIM!!
@And.One.Hoops1 - "NBA HISTORY" OF TWELVE PLAYER TEAMS DOES NOT APPLY TO FIFTEEN PLAYER TEAMS. 🤔🤨
At least with those garbage Sixers teams they took flyers on guys and found some quality role players: Grant, Ish Smith, Saric, Christian Wood, Robert Covington. Low expectation guys who earned their spots.
The Pistons are full of blue chip guys who are not hungry nor willing to compete like that.
The guys who have the biggest attitude problems, are sources of negativity and ultimate contribute to a losing culture are the guys who are invested in by the franchise, i.e. lottery picks.
d book carried Monty so hard 😂
Why the Pistons jump for Marcus Sasser is no good .
Sad our bulls let them get a win
Detroit is stuck with a coach who literally told you all. He is only coaching for the money.
Unless upper management wants to eat 80 million for Monty and not get anything out of it.
You guys are screwed.
And the GM would never do this. Unless they want to be fire, too.
Monty Williams was REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE MONEY OR BE FINED. He could not plead the 5th without risk of punishment. He was HONEST. Only the WICKED of INTENT would hold an OBLIGATORY STATEMENT against him.
That philly team ended up at 19 wins? Pistons might be lucky to get 10
At this point they might not even get 5 wins!