Night of the End | Attack on Titan S4 Ep 25 Reaction
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Waka Flocha bout to be the mini boss before Eren huh
lmaooo, yeah
🤣🤣 Let's goo
Yes
All my homies hate Flocha
@@dominicsizemore5618 floch is ling
Yelenan said "I know I ain't getting judged by some MASS MURDERERS"
Haha and armin is the last one to talk
Period. Lol 😂
@@devontheguy6039 Armin at this point has killed more people than Eren
Yelena really out here instigating
@@devontheguy6039 Nope. It's the warrior crew. They have far more kills than anyone on the squad. Even Armin.
“She was born into a perfectly normal Marleyan family” “oh wow so she’s an Eldian?”
Lmfao
i don't want to do this to lupasan, i love him but *clap* 👏🏼
@@maelpsng bro as soon as he said that i was like yyyyeeeeeaaahhhh nigga
Bruh
Sometimes I wonder if they realize they clapped themselves during the reaction when editing the videos before posting. Or at least their editor tells them.
*I love how everyone’s about to kill each other and Levi woke up in the “Could y’all shut the hell up” pose*
Literally no one was about to kill someone when Levi wake up
@@jonsitoa no sh!t. It was a joke about how intense that moment was lol
@@coolkid7377 i know, i just wanted to be that guy.
@@jonsitoa lmao
@@jonsitoa don’t be that guy
Everyone realized just how dirty they are. There are no longer any innocents around that campfire. But the one that got me the most was actually Magath at the very end. He couldn't bring himself to say it. But it finally clicked with him that his side has been using indoctrinated CHILDREN to fight against their own people with the hopes that his side will grant them forgiveness for a past they had nothing to do with. In that moment Gabi was a little girl with a wish. Not a warrior. And he finally saw it.
What about Falco what has he done
@@nnightkingj i think it just slipped their mind. Falco is a minority in the sense that he's entirely innocent; and so he's easy to forget.
@@nnightkingj Falco has committed the worst offense of all: simping
@@nnightkingj the only guy with no confirmed kills. I think he can actually be considered "innocent" here.
@@comeatmebro8120 nah that's Mikasa
this episode was so intense , didn't even realize half of the scenes were just tree branches and sky sceneries
for me its just their way of saving animation budget, still an effective pacing structure tho
@@p0ppysmic13 considering what they have to animate the next 3 chapters, fair enough ngl. It didn't even look bad
@@jaws9116 yeah, people really be expecting amazing animation for a campfire scene
@@jaws9116 and notice how half the time theyre only animating half a face, disregarding the moving things like the mouth. Yeah theyre trying to give the part 2 ending justice
its not like the animation was BAD just slideshowy. Anyways who wants top tier animation for these kind of eps?
I loved how Jean ignored Annie 😂
Yeah
Me too
Cause fuck her too. She woulda clapped him tho if he tried to give her the Reiner treatment 😂😂
@@zangetsu1597 Nah, she really wouldn't have considering Hitch bodied her the previous episode
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 she’s back to her normal self now though she was weak from just waking up before
I know y'all want a part 3 or a movie asap but the 10 chapters that are gonna be left, are the most dificult chapters to animate in all AOT😭😭 so TRUST ME, the animators REALLY need time
True. Also prettry sure it will be a movie, because 9 chapters are too short for a season, even if they add filler stuff, which they never did in AoT.
It's gonna be a movie. I just hope we get an upgrade in animation tho. It would be a shame if get this type of animation quality on the big screen.
It would be very heavy to animate tho
@@rbkylebacabis6684 yeah, if we get a movie we'll definitely get a boost on the animation (Not that it's bad). I just love the fact that the rumbling is already looking amazing in the anime and on a movie, it would look even better!!!
Imagine we get an anime original ending
3:48 Lupa: “oh I remember you! You were hit by a rock.”
Marco: *gets half-eaten by a Titan* Am I a joke to you?
He probably means Marlo lmao
They tend to forget stuff like that, especially since he's from ss1. Then again, the only resemblance about those two is that they have black hair smh
bruhhh maybe he thought it was obito💀💀💀
@@bb-vj7bp what 😂?
@@JustIce-hs5rx obito got crush by rock
Shoutout to those branches getting more screen time than Historia this season fr
I'm so disappointed with this!! OMG this chapter is truly one of my favs in the manga because you really see the reactions of everyone in each of the confessions they make. And entire conversations were replaced with trees?
@@laurabesoain3766 it ain't that deep, we still see their emotions
@@LORDdrPepper you’re right, it ain’t but it’s kinda sad that the last episodes have basically been panel by panel and this one wasn’t, considering it’s a more character driven episode
@@laurabesoain3766 That was the director's approach. Also seeing the bubbling stew as the argument intensified was a nice touch. What looks good in the manga doesn't always translate well to motion picture. That's why anime isn't always exactly like the manga panels.
She was never the main crew, only in season 3 part 1 to bring the royal family storyline. There’s nothing to be disappointed
Okay the campfire scene with Magath and Jean was frustratingly accurate to real life debate tho. Even to the point where one guy calls the other a child lmao.
More like an internet argument lmao
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 exactly what I was getting. It's straight out of twitter lmao
he said you wanna get historical bout it?? lmao
I think people forget that it's only been 100 years since the Eldian Empire fell. People still talk about colonization and slavery in the USA today (Lupe was joking at the end, but he made a good point). After 2000 years of ruthless tyranny, of course the world would react harshly. Do we not remember what happened to Germany after WW1?
That's why Magath talks the way he does, as his father (maybe) and grandfather (definitely) lived during the Eldian Empire. It doesn't justify his part in Marley or his words, but he's literally a generation, or 2, away from the tyranny on a scale never seen before until now.
This series is so nuanced and realistic (despite the premise), it's crazy.
It's so good seeing the payoff of all the psychological aspects in the show. Jean and Reiner, Gabi and Magath, Mikasa and Annie, Yelena and Pieck. So many interactions in one episode that really draw you into these characters even further.
that's why i think this series is one of the GOATs. the weaving of the story since the BEGINNING and all the payoffs that are about to happen (i read the manga). the story and character development is masterful not just the action/animation/music. it's brilliant.
We didn’t really see much for Pieck. She was able to out Yelena and reveal her bullshit to everyone, but we never really saw Pieck talk much about her own concerns for her family back home, since she still has her dad who she wants to show a better world. We don’t know how she feels about having just lost Porco, her closest friend, and Colt, one of the candidates she cares about. Surely Falco or Gabi would have told her. She cares about the kids we don’t know what she thinks about them dealing with so much themselves. We didn’t see any reaction to Gabi’s breakdown as she protected Reiner, or Reiner’s apologies to Jean, etc. We’ve seen her do plenty in battle and we know she already doesn’t trust Marley, but we don’t really know how she feels about the current events on a more personal level. I hope we get some more character development for her. MAPPA already basically revamped Porco’s character, maybe they’ll do the same with Pieck especially since she’s still alive.
@@bitch8205 agree with bitch, one might even think Pieck was hiding on purpose inside the titan with the excuse of being on guard duty, in order to not show her emotions.
Yeah, it's pretty terrible
@@Drace_The_Ace It would make sense. She’s always been shown to be the most composed member of the Warrior squad, and she grew up with no family besides a sick father, so she probably had to take on a lot of responsibilities from a young age compared to the others. She probably has a lot of emotional baggage.
I’m glad Yelena showed everyone including the Viewers that despite everyone trying to stop Eren to save the world they are not saints
Facts
Exactly was waiting for someone to point that out
A lot of people act like the Paridis crew is blameless in everything when that is just ignorantly not true.
@@Dertlecup well I think they already knew that especially reiner
@@devontheguy6039 For sure, but they're still trying to pretend they're good people with all this "save the world" bullshit. Reiner is the only one really still feeling guilty and not lying to himself about all the stuff they did.
Everyone: Being emotional due to a certain trauma
Levi: Stfu lemme sleep
This episode was so deep and intense that it had no opening lol
It was not deep at all. It was cheaply made and boring af
@@tengenforger4944 Stop watching then. Get out. Simple. It isn't hard. If you don't like something stop watching it. But you will still go through torture and then say its bad. Cry more idiot.
@@tengenforger4944 your pfp tells it all
Wow I didn't realize it had no opening
@@tengenforger4944 So basically you just want mindless action scenes.
12:42 I disagree, Jean for example did nothing wrong or at least not on the scale of murder/attempt genocide whatever, and Marco was his best friend, which explains his reaction against Reiner.
Agreed, Jean deserved to get a couple hits in. Besides Reiner's used to being a punching bag by now.
Yeah, but don't forget... Jean didn't hesitate to kill Falco...
@@BobbyDaDan Pretty sure he DID hesitate and that was the point of the scene.
@@BobbyDaDan He did hesitate. Thats half of the reason why he missed. If he didnt hesitate then falco and the cart titan would be dead. Him hesitating gave Pieck enough time to escape her titan and basically blast the rocket away
@@DeskIsUndead get technical about the word hesitate as much as you want. Fact is he was willing to kill Falco.
"thats too much"
but looking back on s1 of AoT, you would definitely understand how important and how dear Marco was to Jean. Marco made Jean realized how great of a leader he must be, when Jean found Marco's body he was shocked and didn't know what to do. Marco's words of how great a leader Jean will be sticked with him throughout the series.
Okay, how can he still have that rage aftee what 8 years idk anymore
@Elicuu Kit bro. all the story and character development in the entire series are amazing. but reiner's journey in the end is what intrigued me the most. how torn the dude was. PTSD with being a spy and almost losing his mind and memory of who he really is. in a way he was portrayed as the villain in the beginning but somehow in a new perspective he's becoming a hero to stop the original hero turned villain. it's amazing.
@@IAm-zo1bo buried anger always comes back at the sight of the person who hurt you even if it's 20yrs after
@@vangeles11 The ending is hot trash
Jean is such a good character. Marco's death was the reason why he entered to the survey corps and then the others followed him. Jean said "Hey Marco, I can't even tell which are your bones anymore", since then he decided to fight for a future without titans and until now he remembers his dead friend. I love that about Shingeki and Jean, It doesn't matter how much time has passed, they remember and carry their deceased comrades in their hearts.
😪😪😪, eren, Erwin, Gabi,zeke Floch>>>>>>>>>>>
@@Rick-rm9ps Thanks for your comment bro, have a nice day 😙. But we are simping for Jean here. You can do your Floch simping far away 😐
Jean is probably my favourite character, he has grown so much since the show began. I’m glad they’re focusing so much on him in these final episodes.
@@lisa_squared MID
@@kari6891 Floch Goat>>>>>> jeanmid
Jean: *beats up Reiner*
Roshi: That’s too much.
Also Roshi: Yo I’m with Eren turning the world into a parking lot.
Duality of man
Or hypocrisy take your pick 💀
That just shows how hypocrite we are and will always side/believe one of our own and antagonize the rest.
Imagine ignoring context...
right LMAO
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Context justifies Jean, not Eren. The only way you think otherwise is if you think genocide is okay, which is to be expected of someone that supports Eren. Such people are innately genocidal. They are savages that must be trained.
I actually liked the branches during the conversation. Thought it was alluding to Sasha's father speaking about getting out of the forest, but also how everyone's paths were converging.
i agree! i also think it the rapid cuts really amplified the anxiety and tension of the scene. the cuts get faster the more reiner starts to unravel. i was genuinely shocked to see so many people complaining about the scene
Im sure it was just a storyboard decision and people are diving too deep on it, but I saw one interpretation that I liked. The panning shots of the trees is the pov of the characters because they can't look each other in the eyes, especially when theyre talking about heavy topics like marco.
@@zyonith People complain because they took precedence over people's facial expressions during important moments, it's not hard to see why. Show the trees, not as much and not during important scenes = no complaints
Love how Yelena drag everyone one by one lmao she’s like “bitch, i’m not to be judged by freaking mass murderers”
MY SUNDAY AINT COMPLETE WITHOUT THESE REACTIONS 😩
spent the hole day checking for it
😩😩
😩😩😩
Facts 🤌🤌
Yo I love how conflicted this show makes you, everybody has a valid point for their views and actions
Not really, Hange has no points, no plans, no solutions just repeats "durr genocide bad". Jean was the only one making valid points, and asking about what happens after, but she has no idea. She's clueless
@@Dertlecup yeah pretty much
@HealthVeins yea, and the show isn’t just abt “if things go wrong genocide is the answer!” its all abt what would happen if you push the ones you resent any further with hate.
@@Dertlecup the plan is to save billions of people. That’s enough. But I don’t expect much from someone who supports genocide anyway.
@@Dertlecup this is such a lazy way to look at it. she acknowledges she's been unable to come up with a solution, but she refuses to accept genocide as the answer. she chooses to believe in humanity, which would probably get them all killed, but it's worth trying to her. this is a debate there is no definitive right answer to.
Seeing Yelena pet Pieck's titan like a dog felt so weird and cute at the same time.
Lupa really be getting me ready for a jumpscare with his "ATTACK!"
12:17: I think u misunderstood what that scene was supposed to represent. Annie is the one to confront Mikasa because they parallel each other since both understand what it means for one person who holds huge value in your life. It calls back to their tension in season 1 but this time talking instead of fighting highlighting their growth
13:16 It didn't just happen 2000y ago but continuously for 2000y until the 100y year of peace before the wall broke down again
“They ain’t have nothing to do with that” that rings true for the billion of people that are about to get stomped out lol.
Lol eren trying to make them feel and experience what they feel and experience
Yea, but Eren was forced into this position, Marley CHOSE to be pieces of shit. Lot of people are ignoring this crucial detail for the sake of an argument that doesn't hold up
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 The entire world doesnt consist of the Marleyean government/military. Billions will die due to things that had nothing do with them. I’m not defending Marley the government, it’s made up of a military that uses systematic oppression to brainwash its second class citizens and terrorizes paradis with pure titans.
@@neneray310 never forget that it’s not just Marley who wants eldians dead they’re treated worse outside of Marley according to Gabi I don’t understand why people love to act as if it’s only Marley the entire world united to destroy paradis that is a fact of the matter if only Marley was hostile against paradis I guarantee he’d only destroy them
@@neneray310 The entire world is not Marley, but the fact remains that ALL the world leaders gathered and agreed to wipe out the entirety of Paradise and every Eldian. Eren had done NOTHING before they decided to declare war on him, and if you look at the options available, only the rumbling will save Paradise from being eradicated. The citizens of other countries are innocent, true, but the issue is, the rumbling can't just step around these people, not to mention there's no way of telling who all is against Paradise and who would be willing to leave them alone. Like Eren said, there's no time for these conversations, the world already declared war, so Eren has to act NOW. The only other solution is what Zeke wanted and that results in the destruction of Paradise and the extinction of the Eldian race. You may try to argue against what I'm saying, but SPOILERS:
I am right.
Although it sounds like a joke, those frames of the forest represent nicolo's words about trying to get out of the forest of hate and fights, trying to dialogue and get out of that vicious circle.
True but I think that sashas father said that
@@voidprism_studios666 Sasha’s father came up with that concep, niccolo discussed it further.
@@voidprism_studios666 Yes also ! But when gaby saved kaya nicolo said something like that as well.
Dumb excuse to defend Mappa
@@Nano20710 mappa could animate a black screen for an entire episode and they’d say it was to represent how dark the theme of aot is
13:33 Lupa made it too real. That’s a strong rebuttal though🤣
I mean, he'd have a point if anyone had started a worldwide genocide because of it. But he just wanted to get out of pocket. lmao
I wanted to make this comment, let it out of chest, too real
@@Caidezes No, he was using Black Americans as a stand in for Marley. "The people today didn't enslave you, so get over it" is literally what people have been saying about Marley.
The difference here is that slavery ended earlier than the Eldian Empire. People forget that the Empire ended around 100 years ago. People don't forget that quickly. There's so many examples around the world of people not forgetting.
Floch is low-key a bigger simp for Eren than Mikasa is. And that's saying something.
Annie to Mikasa was like : "Hey, I killed your comrades and destroyed your town. So Come on, help me kill your boyfriend to save my dad."
shitty writing at its best
@@Uncle-Ruckus. You wanna tell me how it's shitty writing when the entire point of the episode was them putting aside there difference's and letting everything out cause it's pointless to bitch about it rn?
@@slobertooth1358 me and you need to put our differences aside to stop putin
not really, annie killed levy and eren comrades, those guys had nothing to do with mikasa. Also that city had nothing to do with mikasa either, her home was already destroyed by berthold and reiner.
exactly so stupid no one even calls her out for what she did but lets beat reiner
I ain’t gonna lie, I kinda feel like you guys really didn’t know who Marco was, that whole conversation between Reiner and Jean about it was so much more than just his homie getting clapped, Marco was essential a transcender to Jean, RIP Marco
"Floch is a boss" meanwhile getting beat up by a grandma😍😍😍
pls not only that, he got bodied by gabi and killed by mikasa💀
@@jnktae LMAOOO deserved
I hate how Riener is getting so much suffering while Annie just chilling, she doesn't even get confronted like Reiner and she was unapologetic
She was ignored. It kinda feels worse to know people don't even need you.
@@silversrayliegh5924 I'm nearly certain Annie doesn't Care about that. She only wants to see her dad again
@@mindflex947 if she didn't care she wouldn't ask.
@@silversrayliegh5924 so you're saying Annie kinda suffered worse then Reiner........
@@mindflex947 lol Reiner suffers more from his guilt than some measly punches. Same for Annie. Atleast he was told be Jean that he wouldn't be forgiven. There's closure. There's no closure for Annie, i know it doesn't seem like she cares, but then she wouldn't ask him at all if that were the case. She wouldn't have to confess as if she was guilty either. It's not a case of being physically hurt any more.
Ep 25 in a nutshell: "LETS SIT AROUND THE CAMPFIRE AND SING OUR CAMPFIRE SONG"
Roast session
@@tomhuynh3867 the fire was fueled by rage.
Roshi, get this man: Night of the End (also known as Children of the Forest Part 2) - is easily one of the series' best dialogue episodes. Easy Top 3. The core themes and message of Isayama stands clear. Hope people realize and fans realize this. This is happening to our world folks. Who is in the right? And who is in the wrong? Depends on your perspective truly. Props to the VAs too of the incredible performance!
Cringe
@@scepii didnt ask, dont care
@@scepii if you think NATO is blameless, YOU have issues. Not saying I support Putin though.
Imagine being american
@@scepii It doesn't matter where I'm from, NATO isn't blameless for in this issue. I'm not American btw
A lot of people hate Floch but if you think about it, he is the last real patriot in the Survey Corps, the rest are either dead or turned traitor.
And let's be frank, the conflict will only end when one side exterminates the other, otherwise it's a never-ending battle. Either Eren exterminated the world or the global alliance exterminated them in a few months, it's genocide or genocide at the end of the day.😖
Your comment is one of the only intelligent ones I've read. Floch does have to die at the end of the day because he's an extremist, but despite his rash actions, he is still doing what's necessary to save Paradise. And the ending of the show proves you are right, one side HAS to go for the conflict to end.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 That's. . not what the ending was saying.
SPOILER
The ending wasn't showing that one side of the conflict has to be annihilated for the conflict to end lol, that's what Marley essentially wanted to do to Eldia, and look where it got them. The point was that it's impossible for the cycle of violence to end entirely, because people will always fight, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't strive for peace. Mikasa got to grow old and have a family in peace before war broke out again.
@@artbarge713 Nah, it wasn't about the cycle of violence. If people were just being normally violent then Eren wouldn't have to do the rumbling. People were trying to genocide them, so he retaliated. Cycle of violence is irrelevant in this situation. It's either kill or be killed. If only the people on Paradis are left, then there's no more genocide. THEN you can talk about the cycle of violence because regular violence is manageable. Mikasa and co growing old is irrelevant to the fact that Eldians and Paradis were blown off the map because one side HAD to go. These are the facts.
@@artbarge713 And since I can predict your response since all of you respond the same exact way, what is your solution to the world coming to genocide your entire race when they don't want to talk things through and will only continue to hunt you down until everyone is exterminated? If you don't have a realistic solution to this question, then there's no point in you even arguing. We can both save ourselves the time.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 bro season 3 the government in the wall was overthrown and we had eldians fighting each other. My point is there will always be conflict even if he committed genocide
Mikasa did not pull her blades out proving annie's point lol.
She pulled her blades thinking annie was planning to remove her from te group.
I swear they don’t pay attention to the show at all. It’s so annoying like what’s the point of tuning in. Like… it was pretty straightforward why mikasa got mad. Lupa stays loud and wrong like??
@@crystalhollins9080 then dont watch. you're welcome
@@PhillinRoyal oh snap you got me! Stfu I was just complaining abt how they miss key details which they do.. now move.
@@PhillinRoyal acting like people can’t complain or be irritated with some reactors like???
@@crystalhollins9080 now move? Dang you really thought you had the last word. Children on the tubes i swear. Good night buddy. Bitching on the internet, imagine. Couldnt be me.
Whether you like him or not, Floch going from a character who was too scared to stand up and fight to someone literally willing to take on 2 Ackerman's and several Titan shifters is wild and amazing character development. He's pretty much the Leader when Eren isn't around, and he could've just sent someone else to keep things under control. But he decided to come to the front lines himself because he believes in this mission *THAT* much.
And Yelena just calling everyone out individually was pretty top tier too. This lady has no chill. They tried to call her out so she pulled out the receipts and called everyone else out too.
Loved Yelena this episode, what a G "You're all just trying to make yourself feel better by saying you're saving the world after doing unforgivable things yourself".
Also King Floch
Hes a villain but a great fking villain. Man maybe supporting genocide but hes willing to do it for his people. Flochs motives are very similar to like Eren doing it for his friends. Just a different perspective. Definitely one of my fav villains in fiction. Hes realistic af too given how weak he is.
@@pulinathushan8113 yes, everything for his people, even killing them 🤦🏻♀️
@@ad7265 i think u take for granted that no sacrifices are made in war? Sadly thats how every war happens. And floch only willingly killed the MPs whom theyeagerists and the paradis people had a long grudge for not doing shit. Its not justified but it is what it is. And all the casualites from the rumbling couldnt be helped sadly cuz idont think even eren was expecting for marley to attack then and there and theyd be activatinh the rumbling the same day. The yeagerists do genuinely care about the futurw of paradis people. Its been stuck in his mind ever since the shiganshina charge. Id say hes more like an anti-villain.
Man, that last interaction with you and Lupa before the video ended, god damn, got a good laugh out of that. Y'all are too funny, I appreciate your content very much. Good people here.
Shoutout to whoever is editing these videos. Making sure the sound, the cuts and the graphics in the intro is all good, has to get time consuming. We appreciate you editor
Marlyen Commander: It's like I am talking to a child.
Me: Says the guy who used the "You started it" argument.
Magath is definitely an internet keyboard warrior 😂
I think people forget that it's only been 100 years since the Eldian Empire fell. People still talk about colonization and slavery in the USA today (Lupe was joking at the end, but he made a good point). After 2000 years of ruthless tyranny, of course the world would react harshly. Do we not remember what happened to Germany after WW1?
That's why Magath talks the way he does, as his father (maybe) and grandfather (definitely) lived during the Eldian Empire. It doesn't justify his part in Marley or his words, but he's literally a generation, or 2, away from the tyranny on a scale never seen before until now.
This series is so nuanced and realistic (despite the premise), it's crazy.
I really like the panning shots, the stills. It makes you focus on the dialogue, but at the same time it's jarring- just like the way the characters must feel. It represents the averted gaze of everyone involved. I really think Mappa did a great job.
I agree, a lot of people are complaining about it, and I get it, but I saw it as a directorial choice. Evangelion did a lot of that back in the day
It’s because they have to focus on the movie
@@thaneclark4407 Oh! Has it been confirmed?
I still really like the stills tho
@@lady_raineidv9297 pretty much everything points to it ending on chapter 131, because there are only 3 episodes left this season
I feel like people don't actually realise how recent the Marleyan oppression by Eldians was. It was only approximately 105 years ago when they would have left to go to Paradis which is like the time of WW1 to us but instead of 4 years of fighting, its 1900 years of oppression.
This honestly doesn't make any sense why Hange would even use that statement. If you don't support eren you support "genocide" on smaller scale. And if do support him then you support "genocide" on a larger scale. So... it doesn't matter what side you choose. You will still be supporting "Genocide". The only difference is the scale and reason for doing it.
@@byronicmaren2709 I think she doesn't want it done for her. Not when most her life has been for "saving humanity". It's like she's in a standstill.
She'd rather take the punishment, than deal it out.
Again, people forget that the Eldian Empire was very recent (104-105 years ago). It makes sense why the world hates and fears Eldia, besides Marley using them for war.
@@blackmanwithcomputer Marley invasion on Paradis is still even more recent which is 6 (7?) years ago. People who have their memory erase are long gone since it hundred years ago, but most people on Marley who attack Paradis still exist alive and well. If you saw them as devils and that devils decide to leave you alone and realized what they are doing is wrong, don't keep poking on him or they will show you their evilness again. Cause they will realize "why would we just sit down and not fight back when no amount of good that we do will release us from our sins?
The writing never fails to make me cry... I still can't believe that Jean never got his seconds 😭😭
Jean and Magath using the exact same logic to justify their beliefs and Yelena calling everyone out on their shit is the epitome of this episode. Also, just to clarify, the world's domination from titan power didn't just happen and end 2000 years ago, rather it persisted for 2000 years and ended 109 to 110 years ago.
13:25 he made a great point there. Why expect the marleyans to let it go when we have a great real life example of why you won't let it go
2 key things to note is that 1 Marley was being oppressed for 2000 years and it only truly ended 100 or so years ago so it's still pretty fresh for them. 2nd most people in Marley even Reiner's squad didn't know anything about the people on paradise all they knew was what they were told that their devils that r trying to kill them all, no one other than a few high ups knew that paradise was basically mind wiped and would never attack.
Did the marleyan military know? I thought only the Tybers knew the truth
I have to agree with Jean here. The Eldians may have done horrible things in the past to the Marleyans but no one that suffered through those atrocities is alive now. Marelyans are the ones who know about the past and are still continuing the cycle of hatred and violence. They're living comfortably and in power yet still treat Eldians like trash, segragating them, and even trying to wipe them out if though none of the ones living now had anything to do with the past.
Erin, despite genocide obviously being wrong, is going through with the rumbling as a form of defence. The eldians were minding their own business far away from anyone, yet they were attacked, their walls brought down, their people murdered, and the whole world being recruited to wipe them out. This is all happening NOW not 2000 years ago so Jean's point stands.
I think people forget that it's only been 100 years since the Eldian Empire fell. People still talk about colonization and slavery in the USA today (Lupe was joking at the end, but he made a good point). After 2000 years of ruthless tyranny, of course the world would react harshly. Do we not remember what happened to Germany after WW1?
That's why Magath talks the way he does, as his father (maybe) and grandfather (definitely) lived during the Eldian Empire. It doesn't justify his part in Marley or his words, but he's literally a generation, or 2, away from the tyranny on a scale never seen before until now.
This series is so nuanced and realistic (despite the premise), it's crazy.
This episode encompasses why I think that war in the real world will sadly never end. Ultimately, everyone has their own ideals, thoughts, and desires about how life should be so I honestly don't see how we could ever truly achieve peace. Not to say we shouldn't try to strive for it but it just seems unlikely that it could actually happen.
I think Sheera said this already somewhere, but you can't justify Eren's tragedy and his genocide at the same time. If you accept that him killing the rest of the world is the price they have to pay for saving Paradis, then you also have to accept that Marley sending Titans to Paradis and killing tons of innocent people was also "the price they have to pay" for peace.
You can't call one right and one wrong.
Exactly. Both sides are justified in some way, but both are also unequivocally morally in the wrong.
facts
Damn that's a good point. Surprised this is the first time I've seen someone point this out
It's always "morally" right or "morally" wrong
Marley sending titans to Paradis was the price they have to pay for peace? The world was already at peace when king Fritz flew to the island and made the three walls. The war ended in that moment. It started again when Marley sent Reiner and the others, and now Eren is going on with the rumbling after the whole world declared war on Paradis with Willy Tybur. If Eren didn't start the rumbling, Paradis would have been wiped out. Eren had to choose: the enemy (which is the whole world) or my friends and loved ones. Now he is going to destroy a world that was ready to kill innocent people, just because in the past their ancestors did wrong things, but they have nothing to do with all of that. The rumbling is obviously wrong, but Eren really couldn't do anything else if he wanted to protect Paradis, and it all started because of Marley. Eren is fighting for the peace of his people, Marley just wanted to kill the eldians because of their past
I think people forget that it's only been 100 years since the Eldian Empire fell. People still talk about colonization and slavery in the USA today (Lupe was joking at the end, but he made a good point). After 2000 years of ruthless tyranny, of course the world would react harshly. Do we not remember what happened to Germany after WW1?
That's why Magath talks the way he does, as his father (maybe) and grandfather (definitely) lived during the Eldian Empire. It doesn't justify his part in Marley or his words, but he's literally a generation, or 2, away from the tyranny on a scale never seen before until now.
This series is so nuanced and realistic (despite the premise), it's crazy.
Such a good comment.
11:05 Me and Roshi said “Fuck you” at the same time that was hilarious, I didn’t see that coming
"Genocide is wrong.", everyone waited 4 years for you and Armin to come up with a solution and that's all you can say Hange? GTFO!
However she ain't wrong about that one. It's a fucked situation.
@@KazaiTV Levi turned himself into a one dimensional character ever since he failed to kill Zeke at Shiganshina, so I lost hope in him, but I didn't expect Armin, Erwin's successor and Hange, the commander of the survey corps to be such needy, do-good, hero complex dumb fucks.
@@varunraote6062 Seriously? Armin was always the idealist. Why would he ever agree with genocide?
@@blackmanwithcomputer What do you mean why? Didn't he blow up a whole port killing several thousand people during the infiltration of Marley? All he has to do is sit on his ass while Eren does it this time around to save his homeland.
@@varunraote6062 You just gonna forget the guilt and horror on his face? The look he gave Eren? Armin didn't want to do any of that shit. He only did it because it was "just enough" to get the point across. Remember, he just wanted to destroy the military bases. He wants no part of total slaughter.
The wife in Jean’s dream was Mikasa. You could see the scar on her cheek
Then? It's his dream so its obvious that it will be Mikasa
@@gifhsksbd fucking weirdo Mikasa stan. He didn’t even say anything provoking you psychopath
Fuck, eren 130 and 131 >>>>>>
There are some dumb people in this section (Not u Op)
@@APsGTG I didn't say anything either
"i remember you, you got hit by the rock" damn lupa, cmon now
Ikr LMFAO
YaBoyRoshi Episodes:
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"That's a WHOLE ass -insert noun-"
Repeat at least 5 times per person.
Gabi got kicked, Reiner got his ass handed to him, the trees themselves got a lot of screen time, and Levi was just trying to sleep 😂
"So she's an eldian?" My head was spiraling for 3 minutes trying to figure that statement out
The Annie pie situation from last episode, apparently it’s a subtle nod at Sasha. Like previously Annie was this total badass compared to Mikasa and suddenly she’s stuffing her face like Sasha!
Some people are saying Connie’s laugh was one of pain because it reminded him of her.
Yeah don’t listen to them it’s just that Connie laughs whenever the situation is too much for him like in Season 3 when he laughed when Bertholdt transformed. Would’ve been a flashback or something to show it was because of Sasha if that was true
@@chance258 It can easily be both
I like Floch's character.
he's an amazing antagonist
9:14 Marco was literally his best friend… wym thats enough he over there blaming his mental situation at the time. And how u gon be happy gabi got hit sec after??? 12:27 Annie clearly meant she had to kill Mikasa thats why she reacted that way.. yall have been so off lately
Hurts to see them think about killing Eren, especially when the ending kicks in and shows us little Eren. All he wanted was to be free.
That nigga is free
Lmao Eren never wanted freedom, he just wanted a reason to fight for it. He's always been twisted.
@@nikomiyaminaVODS hes a slave to freedom
@@SurgeonOfDepth
That too yes
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Many people always forget: The Eldian torment of Marley didn't happen 2000 years AGO. It happened for 2000 years and WAS CONTINUOUS UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, which was 100 years ago when Marley finally defeated them. So of course the Marleyans would have a justifiable reason to be afraid of the Eldians. Magath surely had a grandparent or parents living in that aweful time so of course he would feel what he did. Plus, the King was also threatening them with the Rumbling which basically is a nuke threat even though he wont use it, but they dont know that. That said, of course its still not right what the Marleyans did. But it is understandable why they think like that. Many ppl be oversimplifying Magath character as just a salty Marleyan who still hadnt moved on from things that happened a long time ago, when the truth is, it was barely 1-2 generations ago, which is pretty recent.
Hange was right, its pointless to argue abt things that have happened when none of them were there. So the point of this ep was, they all did shitty stuff, but they need to let all of that go to move forward.
But if they stop eren everyone on paradise will die why should they lay down and die but Marley continues they’re monstrous acts hypocritical to say the least
@@LordDarshdan I just said its understandable. I didnt say it was right to do that. Like in real life you know?
@@LordDarshdan Most ppl have moral conscious, they won’t live on the cost of billions of innocent civilians. Even if the lives of the few on Paradis are worth it to some, not all are selfish. Hnage and the rest against genocide are not saying they want to lie down as they get wiped out, they wanted to attack Marley’s military spots with “partial rumbling” as a mean to demonstrate defense until they get further economic strength from international allies like the Azumabitos and those who hate Marley (who are actually a lot). If Eren played “cool” and did the plan they agreed upon (partial rumbling) then they wouldn’t stop him. But, as u may know if u r a manga reader, Eren’s motives were not only or mainly “to save Paradis”, this is a secondary reason, he has a pure selfish motive behind complete and utter genocide to “erase everything beyond the walls”. This psychotic fake image of “freedom” alone should be enough to not take his side.
Now, i hope it’s clearer to u how most ppl are not lunatics, so please kindly stop spamming how it is “dumb” to not support Eren, and just be happy how most folks are peaceful even if it’s regarding an outcome of a fictional work, this gives hope to the world.
Have a nice weekend 🥛
@@uffbss Well said!
@@uffbss If you rewatch season 4 you would know they need Zeke to do the partial rumbling. Hange and the other higher ups were twiddling their thumbs and had no plans on acquiring Zeke. They had no plan at all. For 4 years they didn't come out with a legit plan. Something that would've occurred if Erwin Smith was still alive. But, Hange and the rest were an incompetent mess. You know that if Eren didn't force their hand at destroying Marley's leadership and navy then with a few weeks Paradis would've been destroyed and they all would've died. EREN put a stop to that, Eren went along with Zeke's plan cause it was the only plan.
Don't forget the higher ups were planning to feed Eren to somebody else, that's when the yeagerists acted. Eren did played it cool, but it's with Zeke's plan. No one but the Azumbabitos wanted to ally with them, which means they have no real outside support. If Eren didn't acted then Paradis would've been wiped out because of Hange's and Pykis's incompetence.
So that left with only 2 plans. Zeke's euthanization plan and then the partial rumbling of Marley. But, the whole world has been fooled by Tyber to eradicate the Eldians of Paradis and soon airborne weapons will be developed to easily combat titans and make them ineffective. To ensure Paradis survival, Eren must wiped out the outside world cause they left them no choice.
Eren have to wipe out the rest of the world. The whole world started the war with the same intent. They have no morals so why should Eren restrained himself with morals no one abides by. It is what it is, there are not going to be a happy ending with sunflowers by simply sitting around like a child and be like "but...but... genocide is bad". This is war, and Eren has won, not time to accept the consequences of starting this war for no good reason other than misguided fear.
11:06 I don’t care how many years passed annie you killed the OG Levi squad
Who cares
Who cares tho
maaan the amount of emotions i felt when we saw the veteran members of the survey corps that passed in the earlier seasons was just wild
The Scouts couldn't find a solution.
So Eren gave them a _final_ one.
A bit too extreme one tho......
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 a bit?
The situation was impossible. Erwin couldn't have found a solution to this.
@@chance258 I assure you Armin didn't talk to Annie all 4 years, he was determined to find a plan like Hange but the situtation was impossible. Talking to Annie was an escape for him, he felt comfort in it.
It all boils down to the situation, calling Hange and Armin useless is a very lazy argumemt. What could they have done? Erwin couldn't have made a better decision, I think he would have gone for the partial rumbling plan which only prolongs the issue.
Paradis is doomed in any situtation and Hange said that only achieving freedom for Paradis (which is impossible) is narrow minded and none of the previous scouts, Erwin included, would do it.
And it's not like Eren "gave" them 4 years. We all know how Eren finally came to the Rumbling plan, and it's not like he did it "only" for Paradis or his friends, "...but it was more than that" as Chapter 131 states.
@@bilalahmedsiddiqui9639 Erwin said his plan after would be wiping out any enemies, he’d be willing to go along with Erens plan
This episode is the calm before the storm, they know each other and release the hate what theyre holding, after this night they have to join force to save the world.
Levi really like "shut the fuck up I'm tryna sleep here"
The darkness, the silence and the tension and no opening that was masterpiece
I feel like Annie eating the pie last episode was reminiscent of Sasha stuffing her face and that's why Connie reacted the way he did.
jean was 100% justified in caving reiner’s face in. i can’t imagine the pain of losing your best friend and not knowing how or why he died. especially with reiner saying he didn’t know what was happening. i know he wasn’t looking for sympathy but that was the last thing jean needed to hear after that bombshell was dropped
Annie was sitting right there. Just because Reiner gave her the order doesen't mean she has to follow through it.
Plus, none of them have any superior moral ground over the other now. If anything, Reiner deserves to cave everyone's face in for the death of Bertolt, Porco, Udo, Zofia, The list goes on and on for him.
@@medallionstaywinnin How Marco died and how the others died is totally different.
@@fatimaab7094 Getting crushed by rubble, stomped over by a running mob, being eaten alive by a Titan when you have lost your limbs or half of your face, and have no chance to fight back.
Sure.
Now, You are gonna still argue that it is different right? "Cuz Marley attacked first omg 😱😱😠😠".....Right, Give me a fucking break.
@@medallionstaywinnin Just ignoring the context? After he admitted to killing his best friend, he then goes on talking and takes on a victim complex and so maybe that'd be too much for someone to take.
@@bordan1311 He didn't act like the victim. He literally said "don't forgive me" and we already know that Reiner views himself as pathetic and needing to be killed by those he's wronged. If anything, Reiner kept talking to piss off Jean enough to finally kill him.
Lupa was asking the real questions at the end lmaooo That's some REAL shit, do we let all that shit go????
Fax bro it ain't as clear cut as it seems 😂😂😂😂
HAHAHA that got him, he dono how to react😅😂
I thought the same thing when I watched it😂 but Marley's been had reparations. We haven't, so nah
@@byrant9639 I guess we technically still haven't had reparations yet 😂😂😂
I've been here.. for 5 years... all I got to say is.. that the development of this channel is insane keep up the good work, been here since the dbz super days. 💎♥️
13:10 Just quick reminder, the Paradis Island operation was never about revenge. That was just the narrative they used to recruit warriors. The Marlayeans just wanted the territory and resources. Just plain old imperialism.
4:24 funny how Jean and Eren were always fighting each other and stuff but here, Jean is the only one who actually understood Eren.
im not a Marley Defender but i get where they're coming form. the reason for attacking paradise in the first place was because of the rumbling threat and because they needed the founding titan to control the rumbling. the normal titans started to be inefective against new technology so marley needed the rumbling to remain at the top of the World power chain
The point is, since they were the only ones who knew at this point the truth of Paradis Island and still chose to attack it and wipe it out completely is the reason they can't complain about the upcoming genocide. Their actions led to this. Whether they want to justify their actions with 2000 years of titan domination or not doesn't change the fact.
I think people forget that it's only been 100 years since the Eldian Empire fell. People still talk about colonization and slavery in the USA today (Lupe was joking at the end, but he made a good point). After 2000 years of ruthless tyranny, of course the world would react harshly. Do we not remember what happened to Germany after WW1?
That's why Magath talks the way he does, as his father (maybe) and grandfather (definitely) lived during the Eldian Empire. It doesn't justify his part in Marley or his words, but he's literally a generation, or 2, away from the tyranny on a scale never seen before until now.
This series is so nuanced and realistic (despite the premise), it's crazy.
@@blackmanwithcomputer Doesn't explain why Marley was so reckless to risk the rumbling.
@@alejandromaldonado6159 I guess they assumed that it wouldn't happen after all the mindless titans they didn't garner a response.
not because of the rumbling, (well not just taht at least) they want resource to attack other countries.
Difference between their actions and Marley is that Marley's attack was unprovoked, the things the people on Paradis did was responding was in kind, it was war
True but you also gotta remember that this all started because the old Eldia empire essentially did the same thing to everyone else, and instead of really answering for that at all the king just took some of the people to the walls and hid. You can’t really not answer for what you did, that won’t fix peoples feeling or what happened. Just acting like it’s all in the past does nothing but makes people angry because it address nothing.
@@deadmeme902 to be fair, they don’t know the full story about the past and neither do we, who aren’t manga readers. They hid within the walls and caused no problems for Atleast a 100 years. There was no reason attack, all they did was poke the bear, and that bear is about to commit gennoacide. They only have themselves to blame
@@deadmeme902 It's understandable how the rest of the world feels to an extent. They issue is they're taking it out on the wrong people.
Any land/wealth they lost to Eldia was returned to them after the King fled. That obviously doesn't make up for the lives lost and the suffering faced but the people who did those things are long dead. The current people of Paradis really don't owe anyone anything and they can't make up for anything either. So it's not right to do anything to them except maybe ask for an acknowledgement of the atrocities the world went through.
Not completely. The Marleyans and the world are hostile towards Eldians and Paradis under the pretext of historical retribution. The Eldians had a literal thousand year reich where they basically acted like Dark Age Nazis and officially espoused supremacist laws where they were on top and everyone else was subject to them. That's why Eren has no choice. That's why neither did the World. What needed to happen was that one side had to act the bigger person here to stop the cycle, and being people, no one wanted that role. The Eldians threw hate and got hate back from the World they abused. The World continued throwing hate even at the children of those who once hurt them. But they went too far and they ended up aggroing the kid whose hate would one day ruin them all. And that kid? Intends to do so _decisively and definitively._
FACTS Willy Tybur said "THIS IS A DECLARATION OF WAR".
So Eren and Paradis is just following through on that
13:15
"Even though this happened 2,000 years ago...."
actually, it happened 100 years ago, so it's quite recent if you think about it.
13:27
"or should we just let it go? you know what happen all those years ago, to us? just let it be??"
i think, this way of thinking would apply to Magath, Malayans and the Entire World.
The founding titan was created 2,000 years ago. The royal family of the Eldians then spent many years exerting their strength on the rest of the world. Eventually they stopped and moved to Paradise Island.
100 years ago was when the walls were created and the memories of the Eldians were wiped.
I really like how nobody was wrong in any debate here
1. Magath's point is that history matters and if it doesn't at what point does it stop mattering cause he can then ignore everything upto when Eren attacked Marley and frame his history how he wants but he then ignores the purpose of history as a lesson and uses it as a reason. Jean then points out that history long gone is not the same as history experienced and none of the people suffering today were responsible for the suffering long ago but he then ignores that that history is responsible for what is happening today and even if we say that it is what happened within his lifetime then someone like Gabi is right in thinking that the island eldians are devils.
This honestly doesn't make any sense why Hange would even use that statement. If you don't support eren you support "genocide" on smaller scale. And if do support him then you support "genocide" on a larger scale. So... it doesn't matter what side you choose. You will still be supporting "Genocide". The only difference is the scale and reason for doing it.
Also man, it didn't just happen 2000 years ago. Ya'll make it sound like it was only one incident all that time ago. You gotta remember it happen *for* 1,900 years. It was a looooong time horror and next level racism. It doesn't justify them hating on people who know nothing about it, but it'd be hard to forget.
That's what I love about AOT, it's a very candid exploration of what happens when we wear the sins of a past we only belong to by virtue of circumstance, and how that shapes the story of our belonging.
Floch a real one he's been on point
Glad to see mfs appreciating the realest on this show
War Criminal Campfire Kumabaya is chef's kiss
Bruh, I remember how good this argument was in the manga. But the way the anime showed it, made it really shine. I love the color choices for the background as well. And bruh, what happens in the next episode is insane. I look forward to seeing everyone’s reaction to it.
Maybe I am the only one, but it cracked me up that the information panel that they always do half way through the series was about Hange's soup. Lol, did we really need that? They giving out the recipe and shit, LOL.
People really be complaining about the trees in this episode.
Makes sense.
People can hate the storyboard if they don't like Hamasaki ( director of stein gate) storyboard style but saying it's one of the worst ep??? So overreacting 🤣
It felt weird af
@@ItsYuhBoyyyy i think they are saving budget for the last episodes, just a hunch though.
I like how aot fans where hyping up this season like the second coming of Jesus and the only good scene we get is them slaying the pure Titans, people out here shiting on demon Slayer meanwhile it lived up to it's hype while we have this
So much for " breaking the internet"
“Because she’s marleyan just like the rest of us”
Lupa: oh so she’s eldian?
"stop! that's too much!"
nah he deserved it lol. i don't hate Reiner at all, but he deserved that.
I totally agree!ahahha..u can tell how much he's done when Eren sees him
How did he deserve it? He was a brainwashed child fighting for his freedom.
We’re finally getting into the very last part of the story … it feels bittersweet and emotional knowing we’re finally reaching the end 💔
If only it were ACTUALLY bittersweet
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 it is
@@b4byheart726 Read the manga extra pages. Nothing sweet about it.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 I did. They’re great, fits the theme of the cycle of hatred perfectly.
@@b4byheart726 Lol, fitting a theme doesn't = good writing. The sheer fact that the characters constantly spout how Eren is wrong when he turned out to be right in the end is the icing on the cake 😂
12:23 i wouldn’t be so sure about that…
Can’t wait for her to prove them wrong. Considering how they seem to really dislike her and think she’s stupid I’m sure they’re not going to like the ending lol.
This is the episode many people needed because many still have the misinterpretation that them joining forces to stop global genocide = Forgiving each other , which isn’t true at all
This honestly doesn't make any sense why Hange would even use that statement. If you don't support eren you support "genocide" on smaller scale. And if do support him then you support "genocide" on a larger scale. So... it doesn't matter what side you choose. You will still be supporting "Genocide". The only difference is the scale and reason for doing it.
@@byronicmaren2709 k , wasn’t arguing if they support Eren or not or ideals on genocide , but the reason they are joining forces is for their own selfishness and to stop Eren from killing everyone which includes their loved ones and to save the world, then joining forces doesn’t mean they forgive one another
@@byronicmaren2709 also where did u even see that statement???
The Alliance have reason to stop eren and work with the Marlyies. The Alliance do not love anyone outside of their island.
@@byronicmaren2709 yea that’s what the alliance is , they want to stop Eren and ofc they don’t love anyone outside the island , just like you don’t love anyone outside your family and friends , but watching and standing by to let the world be killed is still wrong , honestly I have no idea what you are talking about
I already posted this in another review but I think it's important to notice the colour choice in this episode.
If you noticed the forest is always this purple color all around. Purple in movies mean a lot of things, but mainly cruelty, mourning, sincerity, intimacy, arrogance, wisdom and experience. Qualities that these characters showed the whole episode.
It also means my favorite color
I hate how these translations say "2,000 years ago" when the eldian empire fell a little over 100 years ago, so the empire was in power for 1,900 years not that it was in power 2,000 years prior to now so this is definitely more recent that the subtitles make it seem.
Lupa: "Oh I remember you!"
Marco: :D
Lupa: "You were hit by a rock."
Marco: :(
I almost spit my drink out when lupa flinch checked rosh 😭
Idk man something about Floch's character is adding a lot to the end of this story. I'm loving this psychopath 😂
'he got hit by the rock' NO LUPA, THAT'S MARCO LMAO. Jean's friend the titan trio took his gear from and left him to die
If you guys did not notice, the girl in Jean's dream is Mikasa, you can see the scar on her cheek.
A little callback to S1 when Jean awkwardly professed his admiration for Mikasa.
All I notice is that the child is basically Eren... they even gave him green eyes. Like wtf, poor Jean XD
My man Jean wasn't just dreaming. He was dreaming about having family with Mikasa.
BTW. Magath was spitting fact. Magath is literally one of the rare Marleyans that truly cares about Eldian people and wants to save them if possible.
I just don't like when people have the mentality "I only care about my family and friends." That's my main problem with Yeagerists and people who support them. That way, the cycle of murder and war will never end.