If you have studied abhidarma you will know it’s only a “Buddha” that can give such explanations that are scientific and logical about the complete workings of the mind . I am a SriLankan who was born a Buddhist but my true understanding came after learning abhidharma 🙏🏽
To whom did Buddha peach Abhidhamma? To gods? What's the context? Why not to humans? Why would Buddha repeat what's already taught in suttas? Even Bhante G from Sri Lanka agrees that Abhidhamma was post Buddha's time. There's no universal agreement within Sri Lankan monks.
All the three arguments are inconclusive: 1. absence of evidence is no evidence of absence 2. the same term can (and is) used in more than one sense in the Suttas 3. arguments from style (such as Warder) are weak in general, and formed through premises imcompatible with basic Buddhist thought. And let me add that Abhidhamma is not "very, very difficult stuff", at all. It is a clear and concise transmission of the most authoritative traditional interpretation of Pali Buddhism, which can be learnt by anyone easily and with a very small effort. I am sorry to know that Ajahn has had such a hard time with the Buddha's precious Abhidhamma, but for most people it is not so at all. I hope those who see this video will not be deterred from making a wholesome and meritorious effort to better understand the Buddha's teachings.
Everything that belongs to Buddhism discussed in this era came from the holy mouth of the Exalted One, the Great One Lord Gautama Buddha. The Abidhamma sutta was preached in the Tav tissa heaven and there are two reasons for that which are long to write in a comment. That is why there is a false idea that the Abidhamma sutta is too advanced or not for the humans. It is infact the only sutta that can be taught by a Buddha. A Sammasam Buddha exists to preach this sutta which clearly explains the deeper mechanics of the mind and other elements which form the foundation for the samsara to continue. Abidhamma is a bridge to clarity and for me personally, it solved many doubts and makes me more mindful. Anyone who is serious about understanding the formation of nama and rupa should invest time trying to understand the Abidhamma sutta. No disrespect to Ajahn Brahm intended through this comment. He is a great teacher and all teachers have their little paths and ways. However, all these paths were first shown by the Great One Lord Buddha :).... Peace be to All :)
#What_is_Abhidhamma? Abhidhamma is the analytical doctrine of mental faculties and elements. The Abhidhamma Pitaka contains the profound moral psychology and philosophy of the Buddha's teaching, in contrast to the simpler discourses in the Sutta Pitaka. The knowledge gained from the sutta can certainly help us in overcoming our difficulties, as well as in developing our moral conduct and training the mind. Having such knowledge will enable one to lead a life which is peaceful, respectable, harmless and noble. By listening to the discourses, we develop understanding of the Dhamma and can mould our daily lives accordingly. The concepts behind certain words and terms used in the Sutta Pitaka are, however, subject to changes and should be interpreted within the context of the social environment prevailing at the Buddha's time. The concepts used in the sutta are like the conventional words and terms lay people use to express scientific subjects. While concepts in the sutta are to be understood in the conventional sense, those used in the Abhidhamma must be understood in the ultimate sense. The concepts expressed in the Abhidhamma are like the precise scientific words and terms used by scientists to prevent misinterpretations. It is only in the Abhidhamma that explanations are given on how and at which mental beats a person can create good and bad karmic thoughts, according to his desires and other mental states. Clear explanations of the nature of the different mental faculties and precise analytical interpretations of the elements can be found in this important collection of discourses. Understanding the Dhamma through the knowledge gained from the sutta is like the knowledge acquired from studying the prescriptions for different types of sicknesses. Such knowledge when applied can certainly help to cure certain types of sicknesses. On the other hand, a qualified physician, with his precise knowledge, can diagnose a wider range of sicknesses and discover their causes. This specialized knowledge puts him in a better position to prescribe more effective remedies. Similarly, a person who has studied theAbhidhamma can better understand the nature of the mind and analyse the mental attitudes which cause a human being to commit mistakes and develop the will to avoid evil. The Abhidhamma teaches that the egoistic beliefs and other concepts such as 'I', "you", 'man' and 'the world', which we use in daily conversation, do not adequately describe the real nature of existence. The conventional concepts do not reflect the fleeting nature of pleasures, uncertainties, impermanence of every component thing, and the conflict among the elements and energies intrinsic in all animate or inanimate things. The Abhidhammadoctrine gives a clear exposition of the ultimate nature of man and brings the analysis of the human condition further than other studies known to man. The Abhidhamma deals with realities existing in the ultimate sense, orparamattha dhamma in Pali. There are four such realities: 1- Citta, mind or consciousness, defined as 'that which knows or experiences' an object. Citta occurs as distinct momentary states of consciousness. 2- Cetasika, the mental factors that arise and occur along with the citta. 3- Rupa, physical phenomenon or material form. 4- Nibbana, the unconditioned state of bliss which is the final goal. Citta, the cetasika, and rupa are conditioned realities. They arise because of conditions sustaining them cease to continue to do so. They are impermanent states. Nibbana, on the other hand, is an unconditioned reality. It does not arise and, therefore, does not fall away. These four realities can be experienced regardless of the names we may choose to give them. Other than these realities, everything -- be it within ourselves or without, whether in the past, present or future, whether coarse or subtle, low or lofty, far or near -- is a concept and not an ultimate reality. Citta, cetasika, and Nibbana are also called nama. Nibbana is an unconditioned nama.The two conditioned nama, that is, cita and cetasika, together with rupa (form), make up psychophysical organisms, including human beings. Both mind and matter, or nama-rupa, are analysed in Abhidhamma as though under a microscope. Events connected with the process of birth and death are explained in detail. The Abhidhamma clarifies intricate points of the Dhamma and enables the arising of an understanding of reality, thereby setting forth in clear terms the Path of Emancipation. The realization we gain from the Abhidhamma with regard to our lives and the world is not in a conventional sense, but absolute reality. The clear exposition of thought processes in Abhidhamma cannot be found in any other psychological treatise either in the east or west. Consciousness is defined, while thoughts are analysed and classified mainly from an ethical standpoint. The composition of each type of consciousness is set forth in detail. The fact that consciousness flows like a steam, a view propounded by psychologists like William James, becomes extremely clear to one who understands the Abhidhamma. In addition, a student of Abhidhamma can fully comprehend the Anatta (No-soul) doctrine, which is important both from a philosophical and ethical standpoint. The Abhidhamma explains the process of rebirth in various planes after the occurrence of death without anything to pass from one life to another. This explanation provides support to the doctrine of Kamma and Rebirth. It also gives a wealth of details about the mind, as well as the units of mental and material forces, properties of matter, sources of matter, relationship of mind and matter. In the Abhidhamattha Sangaha, a manual ofAbhidhamma, there is a brief exposition of the 'Law of Dependent Origination", followed by a descriptive account of the Causal Relations which finds no parallel in any other study of the human condition anywhere else in the world. Because of its analytics and profound expositions, theAbhidhamma is not a subject of fleeting interest designed for the superficial reader. To what extent can we compare modern psychology with the analysis provided in the Abhidhamma? Modern psychology, limited as it is, comes within the scope of Abhidhamma in so far as it deals with the mind -- with thoughts, thought processes, and mental states. The difference lies in the fact that Abhidhamma does not accept the concept of a psyche or a soul. The analysis of the nature of the mind given in the Abhidhamma is not available through any other source.. Even modern psychologists are very much in the dark with regards to subjects like mental impulses or mental beats (Javana Citta) as discussed in the Abhidhamma. Dr. Graham Howe, an eminent Harley Street psychologist, wrote in his book, theInvisible Anatomy: 'In the course of their work many psychologists have found, as the pioneer work of C.G. Jung has shown, that we are near to [the] Buddha. To read a little Buddhism is to realize that the Buddhists knew two thousand five hundred years ago far more about our modern problems of psychology than they have yet been given credit for. They studied these problems long ago, and found the answers too. We are now rediscovering the Ancient Wisdom of the East.' Some scholars assert that the Abhidhamma is not the teaching of the Buddha, but it grew out of the commentaries on the basic teachings of the Buddha. These commentaries are said to be the work of great scholar monks. Tradition, however, attributes the nucleus of the Abhidhamma to the Buddha Himself. Commentators state that the Buddha, as a mark of gratitude to His mother who was born as a deva in a celestial plane, preached the Abhidhamma to His mother together with other devas continuously for three months. The principal topics (matika) of the advanced teaching, such as moral states (kusala dhamma) and immoral states (akusala dhamma), were then repeated by the Buddha to Venerable Sariputta Thera, who subsequently elaborated them and later compiled them into six books
From ancient times there were controversies as to whether the Abhidhamma was really taught by the Buddha. While this discussion may be interesting for academic purposes, what is important is for us to experience and understand the realities described in the Abhidhamma. One will realize for oneself that such profound and consistently verifiable truths can only emanate from a supremely enlightened source -- from a Buddha. Much of what is contained in theAbhidhamma is also found in the Sutta Pitaka. Such a statement, of course, cannot be supported by evidence. According to the Theravada tradition, the essence, fundamentals and framework of the Abhidhamma are ascribed to the Buddha, although the tabulations and classifications may have been the work of later disciples. What is important is the essence. It is this that we would try to experience for ourselves. The Buddha Himself clearly took this stand of using the knowledge of the Abhidhamma to clarify many existing psychological, metaphysical and philosophical problems. Mere intellectual quibbling about whether the Buddha taught the Abhidhamma or not will not help us to understand reality. The question is also raised whether the Abhidhamma is essential for Dhamma practice. The answer to this will depend on the individual who undertakes the practice. People vary in their levels of understanding, their temperaments and spiritual development. Ideally, all the different spiritual faculties should be harmonized, but some people are quite contented with devotional practices based on faith, while others are keen on developing penetrative insight. The Abhidhamma is most useful to those who want to understand the Dhamma in greater depth and detail. It aids the development of insight into the three characteristics of existence -- impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and non-self. It is useful not only for the periods devoted to formal meditation, but also during the rest of the day when we are engaged in various mundane chores. We derive great benefit from the study of the Abhidhamma when we experience absolute reality. In addition, a comprehensive knowledge of the Abhidhamma is useful for those engaged in teaching and explaining the Dhamma. In fact the real meaning of the most important Buddhist terminologies such as Dhamma, Kamma, Samsara, Sankhara, Paticca Samuppada and Nirvana cannot be understood without a knowledge of Abhidhamma. www.budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/67.htm
@@noblemon179 mostly those who does speek such language does not even able to enter first dyan, those who enter in vipassana can understand its importance. Thats why number of bhikus are saying this thing.
If abhidhamma was not taught by my lord Buddha...who is that extremely wise person to teach such a large, deep and complex doctrine still without any contradiction with other pitakas..
“Keep it simple?” How? By removing Abhidhamma off of Buddhism? That’s like removing the foundation of a building so that you could move it. Or like lowering the amount of chili from Eastern cuisine so that the Westerners can enjoy it. Not the correct taste, not the correct meaning.
i respect Ajahn Brahm. But im sorry that i dont agree that the Abhidhamma wasnt taught by the Buddha. it is clearly the Abhidhamma was taught by the Buddha.it is true that the 4 noble truths and 8 fold path, meditate are the point. But the Abhidhamma, its is very must to learn the Abhidhamma, Like yes Sutta Pitaka, the Buddha preach like use a daily languange. Example : Sutta Pitaka explains like "this is water", but the abhidhamma, Buddha taught it deeper " this water is consists of these elements : not the water again but H2o, explains the element that forms water in detail and clear"..in abhidhamma there is no preach that use i,or you,or me anymore..but explain the elements that forms this self ( 5 contituents) thats explain it clearly. Abhidhamma is referred to as Buddhist philosophy - teaches the causes & principles that govern all phenomena. all the causes and principles at work in this universe. explained in the abidhamma how we are born in this life, rebirth and rebirth, how emotions affect our bodies, and how others can be affected by kamma forces so that ppl treat us in certain ways, all taught to be taught in the Abhidhamma. how this natural law works. knowledge of the mind, inner phenomena that work, (citta, cetasika, rupa, nibbana), so we can really understand the real inner phenomena the real element that forms this body and mind.. and its really help the meditate after learn the abhidhamma. I hope Bhante realized that the abhidhamma is also important to learn.. Is not difficult if we already learn 🙏and out perception about this body and mind will change after learn abhidhamma (the truth of inner phenomenon) that just arise, presist for a while, and then passes away.
Henepola Gunarathana - A Critical Analysis of the Jhanas: "The Abhidhammapitaka gives the appearance of being a somewhat later scholastic attempt at systematization, but its teachings are fully consistent with the suttas and help shed light on many points requiring precise analysts and fine definition."
Abidhamma is in the very old history of Buddhists texts. Even Oldest texts you can find in Sri Lanka. People tend to ignore Abidhamma because of its complicity. But if you study few times and if you have bit of understanding of human anotomy, basic chemistry, maths and physics that would make it easier for you to understand the context. Abidhamma is for people who wants things in more core, numbers and as to how really things work which starts from the smallest atomic structures (different in Buddhist context as it doesn't have electrons and protons but different smallest particals based on the nature of those) Anyway, it's really interesting and you cannot deny it or say Buddha has not taught it even after having written texts in most ancient Buddhist texts preserves in Sri Lanka which you can never find anywhere in Thailand or Burma. There is no talk of India as it has gone through such where Buddhism is almost in non-existance in India compare to its population and historical threats it got from other religions after 800 years or so of Lord Buddha's painirvana.
Why would learning the ultimate philosophy of human mind makes you feel special? It only frees you from that kind of thoughts. Therefore what you said does not make any sense. You only get a better understanding of Trilaksana. You get wisdom to understand the illusion of permanence and the continuity of saṃsāra remain on our wrong perception of “the six spheres of sense-contact”, namely, the objects of sight, of smell, of hearing, of touch, of taste and of thought. I don't understand how getting a better understanding of these make you more greedy and conceited.
@@bhawanameditation7481 A small minded he is. Nothing more nothing less. Abhidhamma Pitaka is the collection of 'higher' or 'special' doctrines of the Buddha. It is a unique and higher teaching which explains dhammas in detail and in an analytical way. Abhidhamma covers the whole universe and that's why it can be considered as the Universal Education. Abhidhamma is not only a theory, but subject to be experienced by human knowledge. Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability. I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all. Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
There are 3 levels of understanding - pariyatti, patipatti, and pativedan. It is important to understand the difference between the three. Do you prefer to feel unspecial? does it make you feel superior? lol
For those who insist that what's in the Abhidharma Pitaka was taught by the Buddha himself, please be aware that that is only "true" according to certain traditions, mainly the Theravada tradition as it is today. According to the Sarvastivada tradition, Abhidharma was put together by monks after the Buddha passed away. The Sautrantikas and Mahasanghikas flat out refused to accept Abhidharma as part of canon. A detailed objective study of the history of the Buddhist canon would show that the Abhidharma Pitaka was not originally part of the canon, but was an attempt by certain Buddhist sects to systematize the Buddha's teachings. (The process may have begun when the Buddha was still alive, but that still does not mean that the Buddha himself authored it). And as Ajahn Brahm has indirectly pointed out, this eventually ended up over-systematizing the Buddha's teachings. The Mahayana movement began partly as a reaction against the above-mentioned over-systematization. In the earliest strata of Mahayana writings one can discern a call to put aside conceptualizing/philosophical debates and go back to direct experience, i.e. meditation. (of course, it's arguable that Mahayana swung the other way and ended up becoming too liberal in some aspects. hence the proliferation of divine beings and "skillful means") Even within the Theravada canon, the fact that the account of the First Council did not mention Abhidharma, and the subtle contradictions between what is taught in the Suttas and Abhidharma (e.g. in regards to what happens between one's death and the next birth), should already be cause to question whether the Abhidharma Pitaka was really Buddha Vaccana.
Nyanatiloka Mahathera - Guide Through the Abhidhamma Pitaka "The third collection of the Páli Tipiþaka, or ‘Triple Basket,’ the so called Abhidhamma Piþaka, belongs-at least in its form handed down to us-undoubtedly to a younger period than the other two collections. But in spite of this fact, it should in no way be considered a corruption or distortion of the Buddha’s doctrine but rather an attempt to systematize all the doctrines laid down in the Suttas, and to elucidate them from the philosophical or, more correctly speaking, psychological and physiological standpoint."
Oh deary me, as much as I like & respect Ajahn Brahm his statement that Abhidhamma was not taught by Lord Buddha really needs qualification rather than this general statement for one can easily see the kernel of Abhidhamma in, for example, the Vibhanga suttas !? And for those thinking Abhidhamma is only an intellectual study, oh how wrong you are ! Tut Tut Ven. Ajahn Brahm (or the uploader of this clip if taken out of context ?), NO Saadhu Saadhu Saadhu today I'm afraid !
After I learn abhidhamma, now I know that Ajahn Brahm is in suffer when give this explain. It very easy to see that his mind is in suffer in thia video. In abhidhamma, we learn about how the true condition of our feeling. And if I not wrong, I know his feeling when explain this is in suffer. Suffer feeling is rooted from Dosa Mula Citta, the mind that rooted from hatred, the opposite of Metta Mind, very unpeacefull. 🙂 🙂 And the last word, Abhidhamma is not as difficult as he said. We just need a clear mind so we can learn something deep.
It is the view of most academics who specialise in Hinayana Buddhism that Buddha did not teach Abhidhamma. That said he definitely did not teach Vissudhimagga and that text is a brilliant mediation guide. So too Ajahn Brahm is not the Buddha but that doesn’t mean we should ignore everything he says. Of course you can ignore Abhodhamma and still get liberated so it is not necessary - it depends on how deep you want to go into philosophy.
Make it simple does not mean by not admitting Abhidhamma was taught by Buddha. Meditation is Patipatti (practice) and Abhidhamma is Pariyatti (theory). You cannot achieve anything or progress in meditation without learning Abhidhamma, just how u can become a good doctor without studying medical in university. Be careful not to create bad karma by saying this noble teaching was not taught by Buddha...
Oh Bhanthe...I do really respect all of you monks. You do know about meditation more than us but you do really not know what's buddhism look like. Because you learned about this from Thailand. There is difference in Myanmar. We have Tipitaka. You're wlcome to Myanmar to learn about buddha more detail. So you can talk about dhama correctly. Otherwise people are misunderstanding in Buddhism. Thank you Bhanthe.
Shwe War, but we need to practice Kesamutti Sutta (Kalama Sutta) everytime. So we should not believe Abidhama could be Buddha’s teaching although most of Myanmar people traditionally believe so. And we should not look down this monk in view of being a foreigner because sometime non-native monks can devote to Buddhism than monks here.
@@drmgmgoo Abhidhamma is Buddha's teachings. Everything that belongs to Buddhism discussed in this era came from the holy mouth of the Exalted One, the Great One Lord Gautama Buddha. And Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability. I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all. Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
@@drmgmgoo You cannot be more wrong about Kalama Sutta. The Buddha named ten specific sources whose knowledge should not be immediately viewed as truthful without further investigation to avoid fallacies: Oral history Tradition News sources Scriptures or other official texts Suppositional reasoning Philosophical dogmatism Common sense One's own opinions Experts Authorities or one's own teacher Instead, the Buddha says, only when one personally gains the right understanding of Buddha"s teaching is skillful, blameless, praiseworthy, and conducive to happiness, and that it is praised by the wise, should one then accept it as true and practice it.
@@drmgmgoo The misunderstanding of this sutta has become popular in part by reliance on a fake quote attributed to the Buddha and this sutta that includes "when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it," which is in part the opposite of what the sutta actually states.
In the Nikayas (which are a large bookcase full of books; even the Vinaya is several large books in size, when printed), when Lord Buddha was teaching dependent origination, Ven Ananda complained about its complexity and asked if it was actually very simple and if he was missing the point. Lord Buddha replied that, no, it is actually very complex, which is why beings get trapped in samsara. Lord Buddha taught many intertwined lists and 'wheels'/matrices, which can be confusing. He also loved to use metaphors, which are experience-oriented and philosophically imprecise. Those lists floated around in the oral tradition of ancient India, for a few hundred years, until philosophers tried to reconcile them into a system of philosophy, which is the Abhidhamma Pitaka. My opinion is that Lord Buddha was a prince, not a philosopher. He did his best to intellectually break down a complex subject into lists, but, ultimately, he was teaching 'warrior knowledge' (ie, a skill or experience one must develop), so it's not right to get too preoccupied with philosophising about his many lists. Hope this helps
Abhidhamma was preached to Devas by Buddha, later it that part was carried by Sariputta Thero (Since his holiness was the wisest of all Sanga) and holiness's disciples. After the 3rd Dhamma Sangeethi Thero Moggaliputta Thissa compiled Abhdhamma into complete set of books by finishing Katavattu Prakarana. Later all of the Tripitaka Dhamma was sent to many parts of the world by King Dharmashoka and in Sri Lanka. After another Sangeethi the Tripitaka was written and printed in King Wattagamini Abhaya's time(King Walagamba). Watch the movie called 'Aloko Udapadi' it has quite correct historical facts. Refer Tripitaka(Sutra, Winaya, Abhidhamma) to get thorough understanding.
One well known monk said that the Abhidhamma was taught to the devas because they couldn’t see dukkha and so the 4 Noble Truths were hard for them to see….they have so much pleasure in their lives.
Abhidhamma was taught from Buddha. This monk didnt understand. With this statement he work bad kamma. Anyone who is far in meditation will realize thats the Abhidhamma taught from Buddha. Dont belive in this monk. He Doesnt know what hes talking about.
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#The_Four_Paramatthas (i) Citta #Consciousness of the senses or awareness of an object. Citta, ceta, cittuppāda, mana, mano, viññāna are used as synonymous terms in Abhidhamma. In casual speaking, the #mind us usually refers to citta or mano. (ii) Cetasika #mental_factors or mental concomitants. Cetasikas arise and perish together with citta. They depend on citta for their arising and they have influence on citta. There are 52 kinds of cetasikas. What we usually call 'mind' is actually a #combination_of_citta_and_cetasikas. Neither citta nor cetasikas can arise independently. ( iii ) Rūpa Corporeality or #material_quality. It may change form and colour on account of heat or cold. There are 28 kinds of rūpa. ( iv ) Nibbāna Extinction of #defilement_and_suffering; absolute #lasting_peace. The defilements of citta are greed, hatred, delusion, etc.; they are the #root_cause_of_suffering and of the continuity of life. Thus the absolute #extinction_of_defilements means absolute deliverance from all future rebirth, old age, disease and death, from all suffering and misery. There is absolute lasting peace in Nibbāna. The Sanskrit word 'Nirvana' iterally means #freedom_from_craving'. "Extinction of greed, extinction of hatred, extinction of delusion; this is called Nibbāna." (Samyutta Nikaya 38.1) Each of the above #four_paramathas may be scrutinized for their real existence. #Science may dispute the existence of the mind where because it cannot detect it. But existence of citta which is the consciousness of the senses in man and animals cannot be disputed by anyone. The existence of cetasikas such as lobha (greed), dosa (anger), māna (conceit), issa (jealousy), alobha (non-attachment), adosa (goodwill), etc., in men and animals is also apparent. But it is important to see them as separate entities and not as parts of the food mind or different mental states. The unwholesome cetasikas like lobha, dosa, mana and issa can be completely eliminated from the The mind by means of #insight_meditation. The existence of rūpa as matter and energy is easily seen. But Nibbāna, being supramundane, cannot be perceived by the ordinary mind, but it can be observed by lokuttara (supramundane) cittas. It should be noted that all the paramatthas, in their ultimate sense, are formless and shapeless just as bundles of energy are formless and shapeless. They are #invisible under the best microscope, but #cittas, #cetasikas and #rūpa can be seen by the #samādhi-eye. Nibbāna can be realized by the #wisdom of the four paths. Each paramattha will be treated at length in the following chapters. Read more ...#Citta_Cetasikas_Rūpa_Nibbāna #Insight_Meditation Buddha Abhidhamma Ultimate Science Dr. Mehm Tin Mon
there are many a suttas in the tiptaka taught by the Disciples of the Buddha. then in this argument you cannot accept those suttas also. AND there are many later obvious additions in to the Buddha's suttas.. so what about them.... Abhidhamma was originated during the Buddha's time it self under the Buddha's blessing.... many proofs we can find.. the danger is when someone like this bante tell such a thing many people tend to believe as true....
You may call it a different name or time to time people might have put a name for it "Abhidhamma", however content of Abhidhamma is clearly Buddha's teachings and it helps people to understand the impermanence
Dear respectful Bhante, The Abhidhamma can be experience through meditation, and now a day, there are tons of practitioners and yogis, including westerner yogis are experience the Abhidhamma through their own direct insight and knowledges. Please be cautious when making this kind of statement for the sake of Bhante 's long welfare, so not to create bad kamma on misleading Buddha' s teaching. Hope one day Bhante may come and see (ehi-passiko) the Abhidhamma through Bhante 's own direct wisdom and insight like what many yogis does.
and that is all you know.these monks do not know what is karma at least.i feel very sorry for these people who are practing these things. i am a born buddhist from sri lanka. and our kids know about buddhism than these monks.
I have tons of respect for Ajahn Brahm, just like I have tons of respect for all serious monks, but he is probably my least favorite of the well known monks. He is too humorous in his style, and he is more importantly too focused on presenting a sort of sanitized and modernized Buddhism so that it is more palatable to modern Westerners.
This is completely wrong This was Buddha has taught and preached to his former mother who was in tawthisa in heaven Pls don’t public wrong information to the people I’m really sorry abt this
Yes, making simple does not mean not admitting Abhidhamma was taught by Buddha. It will create bad karma for one who make this statement...be careful and wise.
@Chanaka Palliyaguru sorry for yr knowldge with theravadaya who preached to the world buddha .Even if you were born in Sri Lanka, that is the consequence of learning the Dhamma of hearing the Dhamma from heretics ..These are who preach completely false sermons. These are people with a distortion of the Dhamma that destroys Theravada Buddhism.Find out the true Dhamma from a Theravada monk in Sri Lanka..theruwan saranai.🙏🙏🙏
Because you have been a Christian westerner became a Buddhist later May be it is difficult for you to understand. But Abhidarma is the deepest precious part of Buddha dharmaya. Of course it was only taught by Buddha to a main desciple arahathun sariyuth while teaching at thawuthisa in between. To understand Abhidarma also you need real merits and ශ්රද්ධා. You can't ridicule Buddha's teaching and appear as a Buddhist monk sir.
i am a born buddhist.And i have been learning budda dharma scence 20 years.and im from sri lanka. i have met lot of monks who are in village temples and forests. and also i have met monks who are gone long way in damma marga. and i had seen that they have results. the thing they are practing is ABHIDHAMMA. abhidhamma is the most important thing to enlite in these world. because we have not sure in buddha damma. ABHIDHAMMA is the way to end that unsure. this monk can not undestand ABHIDHAMMA. that is why he is telling that ABHIDHAMMA is not a buddhas teaching.ABHIDHAMMA is not a simple one. to exit this exsistence you must know ABHIDHAMMA. if you want to live like a normal person and having kids and be a good person, the only thing you need to know is suuthra.which means easy dhamma.
Yes may b right bhante ( in your own conceptual world). But as a yogii have come to so many common conclusions written in Abhidhamma. yes sometimes I feels as if so much of a profound knowledge can't be checked on a human level and refers to the above planes but if u have exhausted with your own realities and want more areas to explore, Abhidhamma is the Idea of ultimate realities. may be bhante wanna tell us not to get confused with so much of knowledge but those who have high intellect must put Abhidhamma on a test and check the mentioned results. or else Sheel, samadhi and panya only can transcend one into Buddha. love and metta
I don't get Ajahn Brahm saying keep it simple by leaving Abhidhamma out, while he teaches Vissudimagga jhanas that are considered impossibly difficult and in conflict with suttas.
Although I disagree with much of what Ajahn Brahm teaches (and some of his wrong decisions) I agree here that abhidhamma was not taught by the Buddha. Even if it was (for those who disagree) it was NOT taught to humans, for humans but to the gods.
Abhidamma was described by buddha to Sariputta, and yes it is not necessary to attain nibbana (sutra pitakaya is enough) but it is gives you a spiritual awakening like none other... I think it is great for monks but not so for public!
Make abhidhamma as more detail guidances when you face a problem in daily life or meditation. Pick the most suitable topic/ guidance from abhidhamma to solve your problem. Otherwise it would be too hard/ difficult to learn if you choose to study it all.
Please note that he's not saying Abidhamma is false. (There are other scholars which have pointed out discrepancies between Abhidhamma and Suttas) Ajahn Brahm is only telling that it is not Buddha's original word. And I'm sure some of your may have understood Buddhism through Abidhamma. Just like I understood through Ajahm's talks and books.
i am hindu ,i dont know exactly abhiddharma pitakas was recited by buddha or not but most buddhist reject abhidharma pitakas i dont know why again mahayana buddhism is based on boddhisatva which was fully part of meditation but nagarjuna added sanskrit philosophy of vedas which was totaly rejected by buddha self defence,art,martial art were all added from hindu philosophy for merging into buddhism otherwise gautam buddha only taught to refrain from worldly maters
Nishant Kamdar What ive heard and understood is that abidhamma is a the core of buddhism which was not taught to humans for a reason. its very complex, time consuming to understand.Since there are more than one method of reaching nirvana simpler methods were taught to humans perhaps.though this is pure speculation.
I don't interpret this as saying the Abhidhamma is bad or wrong, just that today we have a glut of information. This can lead to people spending too much time in heady debates and intellectualizing, instead of actual practice.
#Two_Realities There are two kinds of realities- apparent and ultimate. Apparent reality is the ordinary #conventional_truth or the comonly accepted truth (sammuti_sacca). It is called #pannatti in Abhidhamma. Ultimate reality is the #ultimate_truth (paramattha sacca). It is called #paramattha in Abhidhamma. In basic science we learn about the apparent depth of an object water. The apparent depth is shallower than the real depth. It appears to be the true depth due to the deviation of light rays on passing from a denser medium (water) to a lighter medium (air). So if a fisherman throws a spear at a fish where he sees it under water, the spear will not hit the fish, because the fish is not really there. In the same way pannattis or the #apparent_realities, though they seem to exist, do not really exist. What are the paññattis? Paññattis are the names of living and non living; they also refer to the things and the persons themselves. Thus not only the names 'man, dog, table house, etc. are painattis but the man, the dog, the table, the house, etc, are also pannattis, It is apparent that 'names' are not the ultimate reality because a particular thing has been given different names in different languages. The important point is that by #paramattha or #ultimate_reality we mean something which #cannot_be_changed into another thing or divided up into other things. It can neither be created nor destroyed by man. It #really_exists_in_nature and it holds on its characteristics till it perishes. It can stand the tests or the investigation by any method about its reality and real existence. #Philosophers and #scientists have been searching for the ultimate realities that really exist in the #universe. Philosophers not could not agree on any ultimate reality-what was proposed by a well-known philosopher was disputed by another. Scientists first #regarded_matter_and_energy_as_the_two_ultimate_realities. Matter has been divided into 92 natural elements, which in turn have been divided into 92 kinds of #natural_atoms and this their various isotopes. Now-a-days atoms are generally believed to be composed of #protons, #neutrons and electrons-the protons and the #neutrons form the #nucleus with the #electrons revolving me in orbits around the nucleus. Although protons, neutrons and electrons may be regarded as the basic building blocks of atoms, they are not particles with definite forms and shapes since they can be emitted from atoms as rays. It is more appropriate to regard them as bundles The energy just as sun light is composed of photons the basic bundles of light energy. Scientists have detected more than 50 subatomic particles fro the breakup of atomic nuclei. All these particles may also be regarded as bundles of energy as matter and energy are interconvertible according to Albert Einsteir's equation E mc", where E represents energy, m the mass of the matter and c the velocity of light. Thus from the point of scientific view, man, dog, table, hous all living and non-living things are not ultimate realities since they are #composed_of_electrons_protons_neutrons_and_energy Furthermore, since all the sub-atomic particles may be regarded as bundles of energy only energy may be taken as the ultimate reality in science. #In_Abhidhamma_there_are_four #paramatthas_or_ultimate_realities They are #rūpa_citta_celasika_and_Nibbana. In the analysis of rūpa, it is found to comprise the principles of matter and energy. Citta is consciousness, and cetasikas are mental factors or mental concomitants. As citta and cetasikas can pick up the senses and are aware of the senses, they are collectively known as nama (mind). A person is made up of rūpa, citta and cetasikas, or in other words just rūpa and nama (matter and mind). These are the ultimate realities whereas #the_person_is_just_an_apparent_reality. Nibbāna--the principle of cessation of suffering and of lasting peace-always exists in nature. The only drawback is that we do not realize it. It can be realized only by maggā_ñāna and phala ñāna, i e., the wisdom eye accompanied by the Path and it Fruition. The principles of #citta, #cetasika and #Nibbana are yet to be #discovered_by_science. They are exactly specified and characterized in #Abhidhamma and can be verified by samatha-vipassana bhavana, i.e., #tranquility_and_insight_meditation Read More Buddha Abhidhamma Ultimate Science #Dr_Mehn_Tin_Mon
One thing is quite clear. This guy has not made much progress in transforming himself through meditation and through the Buddha's teaching. He is still burning inside.
Some people here said that Abidhamma is easy. They argue with super long long long explanation. Nope. I agree with bhante Bhrahm. The core teaching of Buddha are in Nikayas and meditation. In conversation with simple men and women in life, and in practices. Abidhamma is for professors.
#The_Purpose_of_the_Ultimate_Analysis To see things as they really are is the cherished goal of all lovers of truth including philosophers and scientists. When one cannot see the true picture of things, one sees the distorted picture and maintains the wrong view about them. One basic wrong view which has plagued men for aeons is( sakkayaditthi). It is 'personality-belief', interpreting the aggregates of rūpa and nāma as an 'individual' or 'I' or 'atta'. Because of this sakkayadithi, everyone wants to be a very important person (VIP), wants to pile up possessions for the benefit of 'I' and behaves in a #selfish_way. In fact all sorts of troubles and miseries spring up from this #wrong_view. Seeing others as a person, a man, a women, an individual, etc, is also sakkāyadhithi. Sakkāyadhithi gives rise to other wrong views which are uncountable in the world today. The dreadful thing about sakkayaditthi is that it can couple with bad kamma to throw one down to the lower abodes (apayas) once and again. According to the Buddha's teachings, to get rid of sakkāya-ditthi is most important and most urgent. It is as urgent as putting out the fire on one's head when one's head is on fire and as removing the spear and treating the wound on one's chest when the chest is impaled by a spear. The study of Abhidhamma furnishes one with the right view that 'I' or 'atta' does not exist and what really exist in man are citta, cetasikas and rūpa. Understanding the mental states can help one to control one's temperament and to avoid unwholesome mental states, thus reducing mental tension and curing many mental diseases. When one understands that the volition (cetanā), that directs one's action, speech and thought, bear kammic properties which the cause rebirth and shape the destiny of beings, one becomes mindful to avoid unwholesome volition. Furthermore, when one understands the causal relation described in Abhidhamma, one can get rid of all wrong views and hold a correct understanding of what is going on in the world. When one decides to follow the Noble Eightfold Path to free oneself from all miseries, one begins with the right view and develops sīla (morality), samādhi (concentration) and pañña (wisdom) step by step. In so doing one has to undertake samātha vipassana (tranquility and insight meditation and try to observe how the cittas, cetasikas and rūpa are functioning, how they are being produced incessantly, how the causal relations really work and, in short, how all the phenomena described in Abhidhamma really take place. So the ultimate analysis in Abhidhamma is not for the pleasures of reading nor for the sake of knowledge alone; it is also to but scrutinized by the samadhi-mind in order to develop #insight_wisdom leading to the path and its fruition (magga and phala). Read More.... Abhidhamma Buddha #Abhidhamma Ultimate Science
That is unfortunately a very sinful thought coming from a Buddhist monk. Abhidhamma Pitaka is the collection of 'higher' or 'special' doctrines of the Buddha. It is a unique and higher teaching which explains dhammas in detail and in an analytical way. Abhidhamma covers the whole universe and that's why it can be considered as the Universal Education. Abhidhamma is not only a theory, but subject to be experienced by human knowledge. You cannot simply keep Buddhism 'simple' by casting the very foundation of the Buddhism away.
Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability. I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all. Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
There is a lack of wisdom to pursue this distraction of debating whether something was taught by the Buddha, since the Buddha choose not to commit anything in writing, there is nothing that can be absolutely proven to trace back to his original teaching. Everything we see now is a result of consensus of different generations of followers and sub-groups. Perhaps what Ajahn Brahm want is to avoid everything Theravada & Mahayana disagreed on, and focus what they do not disagree (Four Noble Truths & Eightfold Path), but he was not courageous enough to admit that.
i'm sorry - but this guy is talking nonsense. Even the information he begins with about the ti-pitika is incorrect. The tipitika has 3 parts, sutta pitika, viniya pitika, and abhidhamma pitika. They were all written during the same event after the death of the buddha. Then he goes on to say that the Buddha did not teach the Abhidhamma. Abhidhamma is what he taught the monks, is scientific, and worthy of discussion and is the key to understanding the buddha's teachings. And for the record, the Buddha did not teach buddhism. The buddha did have a name for his science, he called it Dhamma. Abhi means here and now. Dhamma means truth. Abhidhamma is the science of the true nature of reality as it exists here and now.
I've heard that according to "vinaya" if a monk in his upasampada will lose his upasampada and becomes a lay person in robes when he rejects at least one dhamma. So is he trying to say there's no thripitaka, but depitaka? 'Maara' comes in many forms, a good story teller might not be a theravada monk. Even if the world stands together on Ajahn Brahms side, I will alone stand on Lord Buddhas side.
Ajahn here doesn't say that Abhidhamma is not a part of Tripitaka. He points out that it was written later. He's not the only monk to think so. Many enlightened Sri Lankan monks (like Bhante Gunarathana, and Nyanathilika) have/had similar thoughts about Abhidhamma. If you do a simple Google search, you can find.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru Don't provide false information. Lord buddha preached abhidhamma at Thawathimsa (Thawthisa), due to the long nature of it. From the 84000 dhamma skanda of buddhism, 42000 is in abhidhamma. No matter which bhikku says what we've to adhere to what lord buddha preached and ordered us to learn and follow. This ajahn what so ever lacks saddha, which is the seed for enlightenment, we can't follow just for the sake of his talent in speach. He speaks everything else than pure dhamma. Pure dhamma is in tipitaka unchanged until now and won't be changed for more than 2000 years.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru do you live in SL or in Aussy? Would love to meet you. I like your view points on this.. I live in SL. If we can meet pl let me know. 0723611092
@Bartholomew Friendly Mahayana is a distorted version of real buddhism. No arhant can define the ways of the mind and matter only a lord buddha can preach abhidhamma. Study abhidhamma and see.
PLEASE DONT TEACH THE BUDDHISM WITHOUT GOOD KNOWLEDGE. BUDDHA TAUGHT THE ABIDHRMAYA ( SUTHRAPITAKA, VINAYA PITAKA. ABIDHRMAYA PITAKA ) IF YOU NEED MORE DETAILS PLS STUDY WELL, DONT PUBLISH THOSE VIDEO AND DONT TRY TO DISTORTION THE BUDDHISM. PLEASE STUDY AND U WILL REALIZE THE TRUTH .
He really doesn’t know the BUDDHA’s teaching, that’s why he said so. Actually The Abhidhamma was taught by the BUDDHA. He wants to destroy the BUDDHA’s Sāsanā by his wrong teachings. All Buddhist must be careful with his teachings.
I do not agree with you. people should have the knowledge of Abhidharma ...that's the core of Buddhism. just meditating will never open the gate for Nirvana. its nonsense. if its true all yogas will reach Nirvana. you must learn it deeply. pls ignore these pointless advises. if you want to be simple be christian or pray for God. Its very simple. reaching Nirvana is not simple.
Reaching Nibbana is not simple, because Meditation is not simple and strictly following the Vinaya Pitaka is not simple either, not because of Abhidhamma Pitaka.
This is true abbhidarma can be very confusing it is food for thought but it doesn't enlighten you.its interesting and keeps you going but not very important to experience nirwana
I love Brahm and the BSWA. Respect that all schools have some differences. But my mind was blown by the things stated in the abhidhamma which is also such an ancient text. That said though, I believe the other parts of what the Buddha taught are more important to us and should be our main focus. Abhidhamma can be misinterpreted and I believe the Buddha himself (if you believe that claim) has stated that it’s not something people would understand easily. The teachings are rather abstract so I’m sure even what people have read they probably have not understood it fully. Because it’s not possible to unless you’re at some level of awakening, we would equate things with our experiences and bound to misinterpret certain things. That said though, we shouldn’t shy away from seeing what’s there. Regardless of whether or not you believe it is the word of the Buddha himself. My suggestion is to treat it as though it was some form of unproven theoretical physics (minus the equations) and an alternate theory of everything. I think there’s very little good English resources that isn’t academic in its approach to explaining it. Maybe someone should fix that.
DhsA 29: "Ābhidhammika-bhikkhūyeva kira Dhammakathikā nāma, avasesā Dhammakathaṃ kathentāpi na Dhammakathikā." "Only those bhikkhus who understand the Abhidhammo are the true preachers of the Dhammo; the rest (other bhikkhus) even though they talk about the Dhammo, cannot be called a preacher of Dhammo." Like a Vedic brahmana can be called a brahmana. This is true, but The Buddho spoke of the Arahat as a brahmana (supreme). Teaching the Suttas may be called the preacher of the Dhammo, this is true, but the true preacher of Dhammo, is the bhikkhu who understands Abhidhammo!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
this guy is NOTan true authentic therevadin monk. he was expelled from the true orthodox therevadin order for blasphemies. i dont take a single of what he says to be true.
try to learn and undestand buddhism.the things you can not undestand are not fake.the thing is you can not undestand . you must know you can not undestrant them. please do not destory buddhism.
He is correct of course. Thank you for saying it Ajahn Brahm! Always courageous. Sadhu sadhu! 🙏 We need to hear that from monks. And move away from traditional beliefs. Modern objective research has greatly improved and is really helping. Only beliefs and perhaps a kind of denial can still make one hold the view that abhidhamma is not a later development. It doesn't mean we have to throw it out the window! But we must keep it in that perspective. In general in our approach to the Dhamma we need to have the courage to see facts as they are. Including historical facts. Even if it's unpleasant at first. In particular if we wish to see Buddha Dhamma settle in the West. And if we do it, in time it will also help Asian Buddhism to carry on through modern times. We can do without the mythological stories now (which were added in ancient India to suit minds of that time). And by the way... The suttas and vinayas are pretty similar in all early schools. Abhidhammas on the contrary are very different. They date from early sectarian Buddhism (which is a good while after the Buddha), when interpretations and philosophies began to vary... Just as mahayana texts are later developments. But again it doesn't mean we should discard those developments. They are saying something to us, they are all belonging to the buddhist tradition, based on the Buddha's teachings, and we can use them skilfully 🙏🌸🌺🌼
Y can't change the Buddhism or principles or Buddha's word the way y like . Anyone can't change this truth. So try to reach to the someone who knows very well about this topic . Unless pointless to argue with someone who completely blind and try to see the world .pls without knowing anything don't try to argue . Feel sorry about the people who post here without know anything about Buddhism or Buddha's preaching. Go and learn from India , srilanka or Thailand .if not find out someone from Asia .
If you have studied abhidarma you will know it’s only a “Buddha” that can give such explanations that are scientific and logical about the complete workings of the mind . I am a SriLankan who was born a Buddhist but my true understanding came after learning abhidharma 🙏🏽
You were born a Buddhist ?
Agree
To whom did Buddha peach Abhidhamma? To gods? What's the context? Why not to humans?
Why would Buddha repeat what's already taught in suttas?
Even Bhante G from Sri Lanka agrees that Abhidhamma was post Buddha's time. There's no universal agreement within Sri Lankan monks.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru you might not know but if you know sinhalese i can proof that abhidamma was tought by Budhha 🙏
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru from 84 000
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Half of them belong to abhidhamma
And also it was included in the kuddaka nikaya in the 1st place.
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Abhidhamma is for those who like to study the mechanism of mind in complete detail. And Abhidhamma is the core elegant beauty of Buddhism.
Yar Wyn Ooe true
Yar Wyn Ooe agree
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Its not Buddhism.
Abhidhamma gave me a better understanding of Buddha teaching, regardless of whether it was taught directly by Buddha or not
All the three arguments are inconclusive: 1. absence of evidence is no evidence of absence 2. the same term can (and is) used in more than one sense in the Suttas 3. arguments from style (such as Warder) are weak in general, and formed through premises imcompatible with basic Buddhist thought.
And let me add that Abhidhamma is not "very, very difficult stuff", at all. It is a clear and concise transmission of the most authoritative traditional interpretation of Pali Buddhism, which can be learnt by anyone easily and with a very small effort. I am sorry to know that Ajahn has had such a hard time with the Buddha's precious Abhidhamma, but for most people it is not so at all. I hope those who see this video will not be deterred from making a wholesome and meritorious effort to better understand the Buddha's teachings.
Everything that belongs to Buddhism discussed in this era came from the holy mouth of the Exalted One, the Great One Lord Gautama Buddha. The Abidhamma sutta was preached in the Tav tissa heaven and there are two reasons for that which are long to write in a comment. That is why there is a false idea that the Abidhamma sutta is too advanced or not for the humans. It is infact the only sutta that can be taught by a Buddha. A Sammasam Buddha exists to preach this sutta which clearly explains the deeper mechanics of the mind and other elements which form the foundation for the samsara to continue. Abidhamma is a bridge to clarity and for me personally, it solved many doubts and makes me more mindful. Anyone who is serious about understanding the formation of nama and rupa should invest time trying to understand the Abidhamma sutta. No disrespect to Ajahn Brahm intended through this comment. He is a great teacher and all teachers have their little paths and ways. However, all these paths were first shown by the Great One Lord Buddha :).... Peace be to All :)
Naaz ගුල් he was teaching wrong information
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Very true. Looks like he knows just the skin of the onion but not the many layers below it.
Do not deify Gautama. He is nothing but our equal.
@@ViceRoze We aren't comparable to Buddha , he gained supreme enlightenment , we haven't
Namo buddhaye 🙏
#What_is_Abhidhamma?
Abhidhamma is the analytical doctrine of mental faculties and elements.
The Abhidhamma Pitaka contains the profound moral psychology and philosophy of the Buddha's teaching, in contrast to the simpler discourses in the Sutta Pitaka.
The knowledge gained from the sutta can certainly help us in overcoming our difficulties, as well as in developing our moral conduct and training the mind. Having such knowledge will enable one to lead a life which is peaceful, respectable, harmless and noble. By listening to the discourses, we develop understanding of the Dhamma and can mould our daily lives accordingly. The concepts behind certain words and terms used in the Sutta Pitaka are, however, subject to changes and should be interpreted within the context of the social environment prevailing at the Buddha's time. The concepts used in the sutta are like the conventional words and terms lay people use to express scientific subjects. While concepts in the sutta are to be understood in the conventional sense, those used in the Abhidhamma must be understood in the ultimate sense. The concepts expressed in the Abhidhamma are like the precise scientific words and terms used by scientists to prevent misinterpretations.
It is only in the Abhidhamma that explanations are given on how and at which mental beats a person can create good and bad karmic thoughts, according to his desires and other mental states. Clear explanations of the nature of the different mental faculties and precise analytical interpretations of the elements can be found in this important collection of discourses.
Understanding the Dhamma through the knowledge gained from the sutta is like the knowledge acquired from studying the prescriptions for different types of sicknesses. Such knowledge when applied can certainly help to cure certain types of sicknesses. On the other hand, a qualified physician, with his precise knowledge, can diagnose a wider range of sicknesses and discover their causes. This specialized knowledge puts him in a better position to prescribe more effective remedies. Similarly, a person who has studied theAbhidhamma can better understand the nature of the mind and analyse the mental attitudes which cause a human being to commit mistakes and develop the will to avoid evil.
The Abhidhamma teaches that the egoistic beliefs and other concepts such as 'I', "you", 'man' and 'the world', which we use in daily conversation, do not adequately describe the real nature of existence. The conventional concepts do not reflect the fleeting nature of pleasures, uncertainties, impermanence of every component thing, and the conflict among the elements and energies intrinsic in all animate or inanimate things. The Abhidhammadoctrine gives a clear exposition of the ultimate nature of man and brings the analysis of the human condition further than other studies known to man.
The Abhidhamma deals with realities existing in the ultimate sense, orparamattha dhamma in Pali. There are four such realities:
1- Citta, mind or consciousness, defined as 'that which knows or experiences' an object. Citta occurs as distinct momentary states of consciousness.
2- Cetasika, the mental factors that arise and occur along with the citta.
3- Rupa, physical phenomenon or material form.
4- Nibbana, the unconditioned state of bliss which is the final goal.
Citta, the cetasika, and rupa are conditioned realities. They arise because of conditions sustaining them cease to continue to do so. They are impermanent states. Nibbana, on the other hand, is an unconditioned reality. It does not arise and, therefore, does not fall away. These four realities can be experienced regardless of the names we may choose to give them. Other than these realities, everything -- be it within ourselves or without, whether in the past, present or future, whether coarse or subtle, low or lofty, far or near -- is a concept and not an ultimate reality.
Citta, cetasika, and Nibbana are also called nama. Nibbana is an unconditioned nama.The two conditioned nama, that is, cita and cetasika, together with rupa (form), make up psychophysical organisms, including human beings. Both mind and matter, or nama-rupa, are analysed in Abhidhamma as though under a microscope. Events connected with the process of birth and death are explained in detail. The Abhidhamma clarifies intricate points of the Dhamma and enables the arising of an understanding of reality, thereby setting forth in clear terms the Path of Emancipation. The realization we gain from the Abhidhamma with regard to our lives and the world is not in a conventional sense, but absolute reality.
The clear exposition of thought processes in Abhidhamma cannot be found in any other psychological treatise either in the east or west. Consciousness is defined, while thoughts are analysed and classified mainly from an ethical standpoint. The composition of each type of consciousness is set forth in detail. The fact that consciousness flows like a steam, a view propounded by psychologists like William James, becomes extremely clear to one who understands the Abhidhamma. In addition, a student of Abhidhamma can fully comprehend the Anatta (No-soul) doctrine, which is important both from a philosophical and ethical standpoint.
The Abhidhamma explains the process of rebirth in various planes after the occurrence of death without anything to pass from one life to another. This explanation provides support to the doctrine of Kamma and Rebirth. It also gives a wealth of details about the mind, as well as the units of mental and material forces, properties of matter, sources of matter, relationship of mind and matter.
In the Abhidhamattha Sangaha, a manual ofAbhidhamma, there is a brief exposition of the 'Law of Dependent Origination", followed by a descriptive account of the Causal Relations which finds no parallel in any other study of the human condition anywhere else in the world. Because of its analytics and profound expositions, theAbhidhamma is not a subject of fleeting interest designed for the superficial reader.
To what extent can we compare modern psychology with the analysis provided in the Abhidhamma? Modern psychology, limited as it is, comes within the scope of Abhidhamma in so far as it deals with the mind -- with thoughts, thought processes, and mental states. The difference lies in the fact that Abhidhamma does not accept the concept of a psyche or a soul.
The analysis of the nature of the mind given in the Abhidhamma is not available through any other source.. Even modern psychologists are very much in the dark with regards to subjects like mental impulses or mental beats (Javana Citta) as discussed in the Abhidhamma. Dr. Graham Howe, an eminent Harley Street psychologist, wrote in his book, theInvisible Anatomy:
'In the course of their work many psychologists have found, as the pioneer work of C.G. Jung has shown, that we are near to [the] Buddha. To read a little Buddhism is to realize that the Buddhists knew two thousand five hundred years ago far more about our modern problems of psychology than they have yet been given credit for. They studied these problems long ago, and found the answers too. We are now rediscovering the Ancient Wisdom of the East.'
Some scholars assert that the Abhidhamma is not the teaching of the Buddha, but it grew out of the commentaries on the basic teachings of the Buddha. These commentaries are said to be the work of great scholar monks. Tradition, however, attributes the nucleus of the Abhidhamma to the Buddha Himself.
Commentators state that the Buddha, as a mark of gratitude to His mother who was born as a deva in a celestial plane, preached the Abhidhamma to His mother together with other devas continuously for three months. The principal topics (matika) of the advanced teaching, such as moral states (kusala dhamma) and immoral states (akusala dhamma), were then repeated by the Buddha to Venerable Sariputta Thera, who subsequently elaborated them and later compiled them into six books
From ancient times there were controversies as to whether the Abhidhamma was really taught by the Buddha. While this discussion may be interesting for academic purposes, what is important is for us to experience and understand the realities described in the Abhidhamma. One will realize for oneself that such profound and consistently verifiable truths can only emanate from a supremely enlightened source -- from a Buddha. Much of what is contained in theAbhidhamma is also found in the Sutta Pitaka. Such a statement, of course, cannot be supported by evidence.
According to the Theravada tradition, the essence, fundamentals and framework of the Abhidhamma are ascribed to the Buddha, although the tabulations and classifications may have been the work of later disciples. What is important is the essence. It is this that we would try to experience for ourselves. The Buddha Himself clearly took this stand of using the knowledge of the Abhidhamma to clarify many existing psychological, metaphysical and philosophical problems. Mere intellectual quibbling about whether the Buddha taught the Abhidhamma or not will not help us to understand reality.
The question is also raised whether the Abhidhamma is essential for Dhamma practice. The answer to this will depend on the individual who undertakes the practice. People vary in their levels of understanding, their temperaments and spiritual development. Ideally, all the different spiritual faculties should be harmonized, but some people are quite contented with devotional practices based on faith, while others are keen on developing penetrative insight. The Abhidhamma is most useful to those who want to understand the Dhamma in greater depth and detail. It aids the development of insight into the three characteristics of existence -- impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and non-self. It is useful not only for the periods devoted to formal meditation, but also during the rest of the day when we are engaged in various mundane chores. We derive great benefit from the study of the Abhidhamma when we experience absolute reality. In addition, a comprehensive knowledge of the Abhidhamma is useful for those engaged in teaching and explaining the Dhamma. In fact the real meaning of the most important Buddhist terminologies such as Dhamma, Kamma, Samsara, Sankhara, Paticca Samuppada and Nirvana cannot be understood without a knowledge of Abhidhamma.
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@@noblemon179 mostly those who does speek such language does not even able to enter first dyan, those who enter in vipassana can understand its importance. Thats why number of bhikus are saying this thing.
Quantum Physics. But some people don't understand the importance of it.
If abhidhamma was not taught by my lord Buddha...who is that extremely wise person to teach such a large, deep and complex doctrine still without any contradiction with other pitakas..
“Keep it simple?” How? By removing Abhidhamma off of Buddhism? That’s like removing the foundation of a building so that you could move it. Or like lowering the amount of chili from Eastern cuisine so that the Westerners can enjoy it. Not the correct taste, not the correct meaning.
i respect Ajahn Brahm. But im sorry that i dont agree that the Abhidhamma wasnt taught by the Buddha. it is clearly the Abhidhamma was taught by the Buddha.it is true that the 4 noble truths and 8 fold path, meditate are the point. But the Abhidhamma, its is very must to learn the Abhidhamma, Like yes Sutta Pitaka, the Buddha preach like use a daily languange. Example : Sutta Pitaka explains like "this is water", but the abhidhamma, Buddha taught it deeper " this water is consists of these elements : not the water again but H2o, explains the element that forms water in detail and clear"..in abhidhamma there is no preach that use i,or you,or me anymore..but explain the elements that forms this self ( 5 contituents) thats explain it clearly.
Abhidhamma is referred to as Buddhist philosophy - teaches the causes & principles that govern all phenomena. all the causes and principles at work in this universe. explained in the abidhamma
how we are born in this life, rebirth and rebirth, how emotions affect our bodies, and how others can be affected by kamma forces so that ppl treat us in certain ways, all taught to be taught in the Abhidhamma.
how this natural law works. knowledge of the mind, inner phenomena that work, (citta, cetasika, rupa, nibbana), so we can really understand the real inner phenomena the real element that forms this body and mind.. and its really help the meditate after learn the abhidhamma. I hope Bhante realized that the abhidhamma is also important to learn.. Is not difficult if we already learn 🙏and out perception about this body and mind will change after learn abhidhamma (the truth of inner phenomenon) that just arise, presist for a while, and then passes away.
Henepola Gunarathana - A Critical Analysis of the Jhanas:
"The Abhidhammapitaka gives the appearance of being a somewhat later scholastic attempt at systematization, but its teachings are fully consistent with the suttas and help shed light on many points requiring precise analysts and fine definition."
Abidhamma is in the very old history of Buddhists texts. Even Oldest texts you can find in Sri Lanka.
People tend to ignore Abidhamma because of its complicity. But if you study few times and if you have bit of understanding of human anotomy, basic chemistry, maths and physics that would make it easier for you to understand the context.
Abidhamma is for people who wants things in more core, numbers and as to how really things work which starts from the smallest atomic structures (different in Buddhist context as it doesn't have electrons and protons but different smallest particals based on the nature of those)
Anyway, it's really interesting and you cannot deny it or say Buddha has not taught it even after having written texts in most ancient Buddhist texts preserves in Sri Lanka which you can never find anywhere in Thailand or Burma. There is no talk of India as it has gone through such where Buddhism is almost in non-existance in India compare to its population and historical threats it got from other religions after 800 years or so of Lord Buddha's painirvana.
Some people cannot let go of their love for Abhidhamma because they "understand" it and it makes them feel special.
I think there is a big point in what you say..
if someone know abhidrama at least 1/100 of it. they will feel nothing special. if they are, then they have not learnt a thing.
Why would learning the ultimate philosophy of human mind makes you feel special? It only frees you from that kind of thoughts. Therefore what you said does not make any sense. You only get a better understanding of Trilaksana. You get wisdom to understand the illusion of permanence and the continuity of saṃsāra remain on our wrong perception of “the six spheres of sense-contact”, namely, the objects of sight, of smell, of hearing, of touch, of taste and of thought. I don't understand how getting a better understanding of these make you more greedy and conceited.
@@bhawanameditation7481 A small minded he is. Nothing more nothing less.
Abhidhamma Pitaka is the collection of 'higher' or 'special' doctrines of the Buddha. It is a unique and higher teaching which explains dhammas in detail and in an analytical way.
Abhidhamma covers the whole universe and that's why it can be considered as the Universal Education. Abhidhamma is not only a theory, but subject to be experienced by human knowledge.
Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability.
I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all.
Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
There are 3 levels of understanding - pariyatti, patipatti, and pativedan. It is important to understand the difference between the three. Do you prefer to feel unspecial? does it make you feel superior? lol
For those who insist that what's in the Abhidharma Pitaka was taught by the Buddha himself, please be aware that that is only "true" according to certain traditions, mainly the Theravada tradition as it is today. According to the Sarvastivada tradition, Abhidharma was put together by monks after the Buddha passed away. The Sautrantikas and Mahasanghikas flat out refused to accept Abhidharma as part of canon.
A detailed objective study of the history of the Buddhist canon would show that the Abhidharma Pitaka was not originally part of the canon, but was an attempt by certain Buddhist sects to systematize the Buddha's teachings. (The process may have begun when the Buddha was still alive, but that still does not mean that the Buddha himself authored it). And as Ajahn Brahm has indirectly pointed out, this eventually ended up over-systematizing the Buddha's teachings.
The Mahayana movement began partly as a reaction against the above-mentioned over-systematization. In the earliest strata of Mahayana writings one can discern a call to put aside conceptualizing/philosophical debates and go back to direct experience, i.e. meditation.
(of course, it's arguable that Mahayana swung the other way and ended up becoming too liberal in some aspects. hence the proliferation of divine beings and "skillful means")
Even within the Theravada canon, the fact that the account of the First Council did not mention Abhidharma, and the subtle contradictions between what is taught in the Suttas and Abhidharma (e.g. in regards to what happens between one's death and the next birth), should already be cause to question whether the Abhidharma Pitaka was really Buddha Vaccana.
Everything we know of the Buddha is recounts from monks! "Thus have I heard" begins with all suta. The Buddha never author any writing.
Super point brother! Nice Analysis of both Mahayana and Theravadha!
The reason they don't believe it is because they don't understand it.
if you ever read abhidarma, you will understand no person on this earth could have understood this non other than a Buddha
"4 noble truths, noble 8 fold path, meditate" it IS all you need.. Ajahn Brahm is correct. He is also correct abhidhamma was not taught by the Buddha
Nyanatiloka Mahathera - Guide Through the Abhidhamma Pitaka
"The third collection of the Páli Tipiþaka, or ‘Triple Basket,’ the so called Abhidhamma Piþaka, belongs-at least in its form handed down to us-undoubtedly to a younger period than the other two collections. But in spite of this fact, it should in no way be considered a corruption or distortion of the Buddha’s doctrine but rather an attempt to systematize all the doctrines laid down in the Suttas, and to elucidate them from the philosophical or, more correctly speaking, psychological and physiological standpoint."
Good work brother ! Keep going!
Abhidhamma was preached by Lord Buddha. Abhidhamma is easiest way to understand how to mind work. It is the excellent philosophy.
Oh deary me, as much as I like & respect Ajahn Brahm his statement that Abhidhamma was not taught by Lord Buddha really needs qualification rather than this general statement for one can easily see the kernel of Abhidhamma in, for example, the Vibhanga suttas !? And for those thinking Abhidhamma is only an intellectual study, oh how wrong you are ! Tut Tut Ven. Ajahn Brahm (or the uploader of this clip if taken out of context ?), NO Saadhu Saadhu Saadhu today I'm afraid !
After I learn abhidhamma, now I know that Ajahn Brahm is in suffer when give this explain. It very easy to see that his mind is in suffer in thia video.
In abhidhamma, we learn about how the true condition of our feeling.
And if I not wrong, I know his feeling when explain this is in suffer.
Suffer feeling is rooted from Dosa Mula Citta, the mind that rooted from hatred, the opposite of Metta Mind, very unpeacefull.
🙂 🙂
And the last word, Abhidhamma is not as difficult as he said. We just need a clear mind so we can learn something deep.
It is the view of most academics who specialise in Hinayana Buddhism that Buddha did not teach Abhidhamma. That said he definitely did not teach Vissudhimagga and that text is a brilliant mediation guide.
So too Ajahn Brahm is not the Buddha but that doesn’t mean we should ignore everything he says.
Of course you can ignore Abhodhamma and still get liberated so it is not necessary - it depends on how deep you want to go into philosophy.
The person who wrote the Abhidhamma probably had a scientific mind and applied it to Buddha's Dhamma.
Buddha taught in a way that was appropriate for different people at different times and with different inclinations.
Make it simple does not mean by not admitting Abhidhamma was taught by Buddha. Meditation is Patipatti (practice) and Abhidhamma is Pariyatti (theory). You cannot achieve anything or progress in meditation without learning Abhidhamma, just how u can become a good doctor without studying medical in university. Be careful not to create bad karma by saying this noble teaching was not taught by Buddha...
Simple Four Noble truths and 8 fold path And MEDITATE!!! 🙏🙏🙏
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Oh Bhanthe...I do really respect all of you monks. You do know about meditation more than us but you do really not know what's buddhism look like. Because you learned about this from Thailand.
There is difference in Myanmar. We have Tipitaka. You're wlcome to Myanmar to learn about buddha more detail. So you can talk about dhama correctly. Otherwise people are misunderstanding in Buddhism. Thank you Bhanthe.
Shwe War, but we need to practice Kesamutti Sutta (Kalama Sutta) everytime. So we should not believe Abidhama could be Buddha’s teaching although most of Myanmar people traditionally believe so. And we should not look down this monk in view of being a foreigner because sometime non-native monks can devote to Buddhism than monks here.
ငါတို့ မြန်မာပြည်သားတွေကမှ ဗုဒ္ဓဘာသာကို နားလည်တာ ဆိုတဲ့ မာန ဝင်လာတတ်တာကို ကျနော်တို့ သတိထားရပါမယ်။ ဒီကိစ္စဟာ ဘုရားမဟုတ်ဘူး ဟုတ်တယ် သက်သေပြဖို့ ခက်ပါတယ်။ မေတ္တာတရားနဲ့ ဆက်ဆံခြင်းသာ ပိုကောင်းပါတယ်။ မြန်မာပြည်မှာ လေ့လာသွားတဲ့ သီလရှင် တစ်ပါးက ဒီဘုန်းကြီးရဲ့ လက်ထောက် ဖြစ်ပါတယ်။ ဒိမှာ ကြည့်ပါ။ မေတ္တာဖြင့် ruclips.net/video/xd4pLU7jEXE/видео.html
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Abhidhamma is Buddha's teachings. Everything that belongs to Buddhism discussed in this era came from the holy mouth of the Exalted One, the Great One Lord Gautama Buddha. And Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability.
I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all.
Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
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You cannot be more wrong about Kalama Sutta. The Buddha named ten specific sources whose knowledge should not be immediately viewed as truthful without further investigation to avoid fallacies:
Oral history
Tradition
News sources
Scriptures or other official texts
Suppositional reasoning
Philosophical dogmatism
Common sense
One's own opinions
Experts
Authorities or one's own teacher
Instead, the Buddha says, only when one personally gains the right understanding of Buddha"s teaching is skillful, blameless, praiseworthy, and conducive to happiness, and that it is praised by the wise, should one then accept it as true and practice it.
@@drmgmgoo The misunderstanding of this sutta has become popular in part by reliance on a fake quote attributed to the Buddha and this sutta that includes "when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it," which is in part the opposite of what the sutta actually states.
And its logical. I support Ven Ajahn Brahm. Love from Bangladesh.
In the Nikayas (which are a large bookcase full of books; even the Vinaya is several large books in size, when printed), when Lord Buddha was teaching dependent origination, Ven Ananda complained about its complexity and asked if it was actually very simple and if he was missing the point. Lord Buddha replied that, no, it is actually very complex, which is why beings get trapped in samsara. Lord Buddha taught many intertwined lists and 'wheels'/matrices, which can be confusing. He also loved to use metaphors, which are experience-oriented and philosophically imprecise. Those lists floated around in the oral tradition of ancient India, for a few hundred years, until philosophers tried to reconcile them into a system of philosophy, which is the Abhidhamma Pitaka. My opinion is that Lord Buddha was a prince, not a philosopher. He did his best to intellectually break down a complex subject into lists, but, ultimately, he was teaching 'warrior knowledge' (ie, a skill or experience one must develop), so it's not right to get too preoccupied with philosophising about his many lists. Hope this helps
Abhidhamma was preached to Devas by Buddha, later it that part was carried by Sariputta Thero (Since his holiness was the wisest of all Sanga) and holiness's disciples. After the 3rd Dhamma Sangeethi Thero Moggaliputta Thissa compiled Abhdhamma into complete set of books by finishing Katavattu Prakarana. Later all of the Tripitaka Dhamma was sent to many parts of the world by King Dharmashoka and in Sri Lanka. After another Sangeethi the Tripitaka was written and printed in King Wattagamini Abhaya's time(King Walagamba). Watch the movie called 'Aloko Udapadi' it has quite correct historical facts. Refer Tripitaka(Sutra, Winaya, Abhidhamma) to get thorough understanding.
One well known monk said that the Abhidhamma was taught to the devas because they couldn’t see dukkha and so the 4 Noble Truths were hard for them to see….they have so much pleasure in their lives.
Abhidhamma was taught from Buddha. This monk didnt understand. With this statement he work bad kamma. Anyone who is far in meditation will realize thats the Abhidhamma taught from Buddha. Dont belive in this monk. He Doesnt know what hes talking about.
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(ii) Cetasika
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there are many a suttas in the tiptaka taught by the Disciples of the Buddha. then in this argument you cannot accept those suttas also. AND there are many later obvious additions in to the Buddha's suttas.. so what about them....
Abhidhamma was originated during the Buddha's time it self under the Buddha's blessing.... many proofs we can find..
the danger is when someone like this bante tell such a thing many people tend to believe as true....
Lord Buddha taught Abhidhamma! Why ven.Brahmavamso told that?
I respect ajahn chan, abhidhamma its not and eazy knowlegde but its a very complete mAP, very usefull for one spiritual journey...
You may call it a different name or time to time people might have put a name for it "Abhidhamma", however content of Abhidhamma is clearly Buddha's teachings and it helps people to understand the impermanence
Dear respectful Bhante, The Abhidhamma can be experience through meditation, and now a day, there are tons of practitioners and yogis, including westerner yogis are experience the Abhidhamma through their own direct insight and knowledges. Please be cautious when making this kind of statement for the sake of Bhante 's long welfare, so not to create bad kamma on misleading Buddha' s teaching. Hope one day Bhante may come and see (ehi-passiko) the Abhidhamma through Bhante 's own direct wisdom and insight like what many yogis does.
Absolutely agree with you. 👍
I agree completely with him. Keep it simple. The Buddha's teaching is very simple, yet very very profound.
and that is all you know.these monks do not know what is karma at least.i feel very sorry for these people who are practing these things. i am a born buddhist from sri lanka. and our kids know about buddhism than these monks.
I have tons of respect for Ajahn Brahm, just like I have tons of respect for all serious monks, but he is probably my least favorite of the well known monks. He is too humorous in his style, and he is more importantly too focused on presenting a sort of sanitized and modernized Buddhism so that it is more palatable to modern Westerners.
Well said...🙏
@Bartholomew Friendly Chill out
This is completely wrong
This was Buddha has taught and preached to his former mother who was in tawthisa in heaven
Pls don’t public wrong information to the people
I’m really sorry abt this
That Thawthisa story sounds like a myth fabricated for gullible Buddhists.
Yes, making simple does not mean not admitting Abhidhamma was taught by Buddha. It will create bad karma for one who make this statement...be careful and wise.
@Chanaka Palliyaguru sorry for yr knowldge with theravadaya who preached to the world buddha .Even if you were born in Sri Lanka, that is the consequence of learning the Dhamma of hearing the Dhamma from heretics ..These are who preach completely false sermons. These are people with a distortion of the Dhamma that destroys Theravada Buddhism.Find out the true Dhamma from a Theravada monk in Sri Lanka..theruwan saranai.🙏🙏🙏
some monks just wanted to be honored and served
Because you have been a Christian westerner became a Buddhist later May be it is difficult for you to understand. But Abhidarma is the deepest precious part of Buddha dharmaya. Of course it was only taught by Buddha to a main desciple arahathun sariyuth while teaching at thawuthisa in between. To understand Abhidarma also you need real merits and ශ්රද්ධා. You can't ridicule Buddha's teaching and appear as a Buddhist monk sir.
I agree with him. Abhidhamma is an invention of later monks, especially the Brahmin monks who converted to Buddhism.
i am a born buddhist.And i have been learning budda dharma scence 20 years.and im from sri lanka. i have met lot of monks who are in village temples and forests. and also i have met monks who are gone long way in damma marga. and i had seen that they have results. the thing they are practing is ABHIDHAMMA. abhidhamma is the most important thing to enlite in these world. because we have not sure in buddha damma. ABHIDHAMMA is the way to end that unsure. this monk can not undestand ABHIDHAMMA. that is why he is telling that ABHIDHAMMA is not a buddhas teaching.ABHIDHAMMA is not a simple one. to exit this exsistence you must know ABHIDHAMMA. if you want to live like a normal person and having kids and be a good person, the only thing you need to know is suuthra.which means easy dhamma.
Abhidharma/Hinayana contradicts Buddhavacana/Dharma explicitly.
Yes may b right bhante ( in your own conceptual world). But as a yogii have come to so many common conclusions written in Abhidhamma. yes sometimes I feels as if so much of a profound knowledge can't be checked on a human level and refers to the above planes but if u have exhausted with your own realities and want more areas to explore, Abhidhamma is the Idea of ultimate realities.
may be bhante wanna tell us not to get confused with so much of knowledge but those who have high intellect must put Abhidhamma on a test and check the mentioned results.
or else Sheel, samadhi and panya only can transcend one into Buddha.
love and metta
I don't get Ajahn Brahm saying keep it simple by leaving Abhidhamma out, while he teaches Vissudimagga jhanas that are considered impossibly difficult and in conflict with suttas.
Ele nunca leu o visudhimagga
Although I disagree with much of what Ajahn Brahm teaches (and some of his wrong decisions) I agree here that abhidhamma was not taught by the Buddha. Even if it was (for those who disagree) it was NOT taught to humans, for humans but to the gods.
he devalues his speech with abortion apology imo
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Abhidamma was described by buddha to Sariputta, and yes it is not necessary to attain nibbana (sutra pitakaya is enough) but it is gives you a spiritual awakening like none other... I think it is great for monks but not so for public!
Make abhidhamma as more detail guidances when you face a problem in daily life or meditation. Pick the most suitable topic/ guidance from abhidhamma to solve your problem. Otherwise it would be too hard/ difficult to learn if you choose to study it all.
Please note that he's not saying Abidhamma is false. (There are other scholars which have pointed out discrepancies between Abhidhamma and Suttas) Ajahn Brahm is only telling that it is not Buddha's original word. And I'm sure some of your may have understood Buddhism through Abidhamma. Just like I understood through Ajahm's talks and books.
I personally meet him in Pune, India but I am not agree with him
i am hindu ,i dont know exactly abhiddharma pitakas was recited by buddha or not
but most buddhist reject abhidharma pitakas
i dont know why
again mahayana buddhism is based on boddhisatva which was fully part of meditation
but nagarjuna added sanskrit philosophy of vedas
which was totaly rejected by buddha
self defence,art,martial art were all added from hindu philosophy for merging into buddhism
otherwise gautam buddha only taught to refrain from worldly maters
Nishant Kamdar What ive heard and understood is that abidhamma is a the core of buddhism which was not taught to humans for a reason. its very complex, time consuming to understand.Since there are more than one method of reaching nirvana simpler methods were taught to humans perhaps.though this is pure speculation.
they rejet abhidhamma because they can not undestand that. that is all.
So, I can say that the holy book of Buddhist is Dwipitaka. It is not Tripitaka
I don't interpret this as saying the Abhidhamma is bad or wrong, just that today we have a glut of information. This can lead to people spending too much time in heady debates and intellectualizing, instead of actual practice.
#Two_Realities
There are two kinds of realities- apparent and ultimate.
Apparent reality is the ordinary #conventional_truth or the comonly accepted truth (sammuti_sacca). It is called #pannatti in Abhidhamma. Ultimate reality is the #ultimate_truth (paramattha sacca). It is called #paramattha in Abhidhamma.
In basic science we learn about the apparent depth of an object water. The apparent depth is shallower than the real depth. It appears to be the true depth due to the deviation of light rays on passing from a denser medium (water) to a lighter medium (air). So if a fisherman throws a spear at a fish where he sees it under water, the spear will not hit the fish, because the fish is not really there. In the same way pannattis or the #apparent_realities, though they seem to exist, do not really exist. What are the paññattis? Paññattis are the names of living and non living; they also refer to the things and the persons themselves. Thus not only the names 'man, dog, table house, etc. are painattis but the man, the dog, the table, the house, etc, are also pannattis,
It is apparent that 'names' are not the ultimate reality because a particular thing has been given different names in different languages.
The important point is that by #paramattha or #ultimate_reality we mean something which #cannot_be_changed into another thing or divided up into other things. It can neither be created nor destroyed by man. It #really_exists_in_nature and it holds on its characteristics till it perishes. It can stand the tests or the investigation by any method about its reality and real existence. #Philosophers and #scientists have been searching for the ultimate realities that really exist in the #universe. Philosophers not could not agree on any ultimate reality-what was proposed by a well-known philosopher was disputed by another.
Scientists first #regarded_matter_and_energy_as_the_two_ultimate_realities. Matter has been divided into 92 natural elements, which in turn have been divided into 92 kinds of #natural_atoms and this their various isotopes. Now-a-days atoms are generally believed to be composed of #protons, #neutrons and electrons-the protons and the #neutrons form the #nucleus with the #electrons revolving me in orbits around the nucleus.
Although protons, neutrons and electrons may be regarded as the basic building blocks of atoms, they are not particles with definite forms and shapes since they can be emitted from atoms as rays. It is more appropriate to regard them as bundles The energy just as sun light is composed of photons the basic bundles of light energy.
Scientists have detected more than 50 subatomic particles fro the breakup of atomic nuclei. All these particles may also be regarded as bundles of energy as matter and energy are interconvertible
according to Albert Einsteir's
equation E mc",
where E represents energy,
m the mass of the matter and
c the velocity of light.
Thus from the point of scientific view, man, dog, table, hous all living and non-living things are not ultimate realities since they are #composed_of_electrons_protons_neutrons_and_energy Furthermore, since all the sub-atomic particles may be regarded as bundles of energy only energy may be taken as the ultimate reality in science.
#In_Abhidhamma_there_are_four #paramatthas_or_ultimate_realities They are #rūpa_citta_celasika_and_Nibbana.
In the analysis of rūpa, it is found to comprise the principles of matter and energy.
Citta is consciousness, and cetasikas are mental factors or mental concomitants.
As citta and cetasikas can pick up the senses and are aware of the senses, they are collectively known as nama (mind).
A person is made up of rūpa, citta and cetasikas, or in other words just rūpa and nama (matter and mind). These are the ultimate realities whereas #the_person_is_just_an_apparent_reality.
Nibbāna--the principle of cessation of suffering and of lasting peace-always exists in nature. The only drawback is that we do not realize it. It can be realized only by maggā_ñāna and phala ñāna, i e., the wisdom eye accompanied by the Path and it Fruition.
The principles of #citta, #cetasika and #Nibbana are yet to be #discovered_by_science. They are exactly specified and characterized in #Abhidhamma and can be verified by samatha-vipassana bhavana, i.e.,
#tranquility_and_insight_meditation
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One thing is quite clear. This guy has not made much progress in transforming himself through meditation and through the Buddha's teaching. He is still burning inside.
Some people here said that Abidhamma is easy. They argue with super long long long explanation. Nope. I agree with bhante Bhrahm. The core teaching of Buddha are in Nikayas and meditation. In conversation with simple men and women in life, and in practices. Abidhamma is for professors.
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#The_Purpose_of_the_Ultimate_Analysis
To see things as they really are is the cherished goal of all lovers of truth including philosophers and scientists. When one cannot see the true picture of things, one sees the distorted picture and maintains the wrong view about them.
One basic wrong view which has plagued men for aeons is( sakkayaditthi). It is 'personality-belief', interpreting the aggregates of rūpa and nāma as an 'individual' or 'I' or 'atta'.
Because of this sakkayadithi, everyone wants to be a very important person (VIP), wants to pile up possessions for the benefit of 'I' and behaves in a #selfish_way. In fact all sorts of troubles and miseries spring up from this #wrong_view.
Seeing others as a person, a man, a women, an individual, etc, is also sakkāyadhithi. Sakkāyadhithi gives rise to other wrong views which are uncountable in the world today.
The dreadful thing about sakkayaditthi is that it can couple with bad kamma to throw one down to the lower abodes (apayas) once and again. According to the Buddha's teachings, to get rid of sakkāya-ditthi is most important and most urgent. It is as urgent as putting out the fire on one's head when one's head is on fire and as removing the spear and treating the wound on one's chest when the chest is impaled by a spear.
The study of Abhidhamma furnishes one with the right view that 'I' or 'atta' does not exist and what really exist in man are citta, cetasikas and rūpa. Understanding the mental states can help one to control one's temperament and to avoid unwholesome mental states, thus reducing mental tension and curing many mental diseases.
When one understands that the volition (cetanā), that directs one's action, speech and thought, bear kammic properties which the cause rebirth and shape the destiny of beings, one becomes mindful to avoid unwholesome volition.
Furthermore, when one understands the causal relation described in Abhidhamma, one can get rid of all wrong views and hold a correct understanding of what is going on in the world.
When one decides to follow the Noble Eightfold Path to free oneself from all miseries, one begins with the right view and develops sīla (morality), samādhi (concentration) and pañña (wisdom) step by step. In so doing one has to undertake samātha vipassana (tranquility and insight meditation and try to observe how the cittas, cetasikas and rūpa are functioning, how they are being produced incessantly, how the causal relations really work and, in short, how all the phenomena described in Abhidhamma really take place.
So the ultimate analysis in Abhidhamma is not for the pleasures of reading nor for the sake of knowledge alone; it is also to but scrutinized by the samadhi-mind in order to develop #insight_wisdom leading to the path and its fruition (magga and phala).
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Sadhu sadhu sadhu
That is unfortunately a very sinful thought coming from a Buddhist monk.
Abhidhamma Pitaka is the collection of 'higher' or 'special' doctrines of the Buddha. It is a unique and higher teaching which explains dhammas in detail and in an analytical way.
Abhidhamma covers the whole universe and that's why it can be considered as the Universal Education. Abhidhamma is not only a theory, but subject to be experienced by human knowledge.
You cannot simply keep Buddhism 'simple' by casting the very foundation of the Buddhism away.
Abhidhamma is in fact not very difficult to understand at all, unless you are a born retard, or someone with Intellectual disability.
I feel sorry for Ajahn because he has had such a hard time and obviously made him give up learning Abhidhamma. But believe me, for most people it is not so at all.
Do not let his words deter you away from making an effort to understand the Buddha's most profoud teachings.
Mehe It's hard to find a young Buddhist crowd right?
you must study abhidamma banthe
dalugama samithagnana why this
I tried to contact him but he doesn’t like to accept this
He was wrong and giving wrong information
There is a lack of wisdom to pursue this distraction of debating whether something was taught by the Buddha, since the Buddha choose not to commit anything in writing, there is nothing that can be absolutely proven to trace back to his original teaching. Everything we see now is a result of consensus of different generations of followers and sub-groups. Perhaps what Ajahn Brahm want is to avoid everything Theravada & Mahayana disagreed on, and focus what they do not disagree (Four Noble Truths & Eightfold Path), but he was not courageous enough to admit that.
i'm sorry - but this guy is talking nonsense. Even the information he begins with about the ti-pitika is incorrect. The tipitika has 3 parts, sutta pitika, viniya pitika, and abhidhamma pitika. They were all written during the same event after the death of the buddha. Then he goes on to say that the Buddha did not teach the Abhidhamma. Abhidhamma is what he taught the monks, is scientific, and worthy of discussion and is the key to understanding the buddha's teachings. And for the record, the Buddha did not teach buddhism. The buddha did have a name for his science, he called it Dhamma. Abhi means here and now. Dhamma means truth. Abhidhamma is the science of the true nature of reality as it exists here and now.
I've heard that according to "vinaya" if a monk in his upasampada will lose his upasampada and becomes a lay person in robes when he rejects at least one dhamma. So is he trying to say there's no thripitaka, but depitaka? 'Maara' comes in many forms, a good story teller might not be a theravada monk. Even if the world stands together on Ajahn Brahms side, I will alone stand on Lord Buddhas side.
Ajahn here doesn't say that Abhidhamma is not a part of Tripitaka. He points out that it was written later. He's not the only monk to think so. Many enlightened Sri Lankan monks (like Bhante Gunarathana, and Nyanathilika) have/had similar thoughts about Abhidhamma. If you do a simple Google search, you can find.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru Don't provide false information. Lord buddha preached abhidhamma at Thawathimsa (Thawthisa), due to the long nature of it. From the 84000 dhamma skanda of buddhism, 42000 is in abhidhamma. No matter which bhikku says what we've to adhere to what lord buddha preached and ordered us to learn and follow. This ajahn what so ever lacks saddha, which is the seed for enlightenment, we can't follow just for the sake of his talent in speach. He speaks everything else than pure dhamma. Pure dhamma is in tipitaka unchanged until now and won't be changed for more than 2000 years.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru and also i think Ven Katukurunde Gnananda?
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru do you live in SL or in Aussy? Would love to meet you. I like your view points on this..
I live in SL. If we can meet pl let me know. 0723611092
@Bartholomew Friendly Mahayana is a distorted version of real buddhism. No arhant can define the ways of the mind and matter only a lord buddha can preach abhidhamma. Study abhidhamma and see.
PLEASE DONT TEACH THE BUDDHISM WITHOUT GOOD KNOWLEDGE. BUDDHA TAUGHT THE ABIDHRMAYA ( SUTHRAPITAKA, VINAYA PITAKA. ABIDHRMAYA PITAKA )
IF YOU NEED MORE DETAILS PLS STUDY WELL, DONT PUBLISH THOSE VIDEO AND DONT TRY TO DISTORTION THE BUDDHISM. PLEASE STUDY AND U WILL REALIZE THE TRUTH .
Blind faith has no place in Buddhism.
@@ChanakaPalliyaguru yes if y blind y can't see anything. At least yr self too
Calm down Sir... Buddhism is still blossoming well..
He really doesn’t know the BUDDHA’s teaching, that’s why he said so. Actually The Abhidhamma was taught by the BUDDHA. He wants to destroy the BUDDHA’s Sāsanā by his wrong teachings. All Buddhist must be careful with his teachings.
I do not agree with you. people should have the knowledge of Abhidharma ...that's the core of Buddhism. just meditating will never open the gate for Nirvana. its nonsense. if its true all yogas will reach Nirvana. you must learn it deeply. pls ignore these pointless advises. if you want to be simple be christian or pray for God. Its very simple. reaching Nirvana is not simple.
Reaching Nibbana is not simple, because Meditation is not simple and strictly following the Vinaya Pitaka is not simple either, not because of Abhidhamma Pitaka.
well if u reach nirvana later. dont forget to invite me😊
Buddhism is simple....dont make it complicated
YES ABSOLUTELY UR RIGHT , WITHOUT KNOWING THEY WERE TEACHING
sudeep wijerathne agree
This is true abbhidarma can be very confusing it is food for thought but it doesn't enlighten you.its interesting and keeps you going but not very important to experience nirwana
Thank Buddha 🎉🎉 and ajhan
I love Brahm and the BSWA. Respect that all schools have some differences. But my mind was blown by the things stated in the abhidhamma which is also such an ancient text. That said though, I believe the other parts of what the Buddha taught are more important to us and should be our main focus. Abhidhamma can be misinterpreted and I believe the Buddha himself (if you believe that claim) has stated that it’s not something people would understand easily. The teachings are rather abstract so I’m sure even what people have read they probably have not understood it fully. Because it’s not possible to unless you’re at some level of awakening, we would equate things with our experiences and bound to misinterpret certain things. That said though, we shouldn’t shy away from seeing what’s there. Regardless of whether or not you believe it is the word of the Buddha himself. My suggestion is to treat it as though it was some form of unproven theoretical physics (minus the equations) and an alternate theory of everything. I think there’s very little good English resources that isn’t academic in its approach to explaining it. Maybe someone should fix that.
Abhidhamma in Daily Life by Nina van Gorkum is a wonderful English language summary.
Though approach is still quite academical yes.
Also a summary on Higher Mind or A Monk's Notes, it's a new book with novel English approach
Let's make it simple. There is no Tripitaka, only Dwipitaka...lol
Agree....only ananda's talk were really from Buddha, dont believe others.
Sadu Sadu Sadu!!!!
I don't seem so. Because it contains much detail of one's mind. And it is not simple to observe by even ahartas.
Lol all the abhidhamma fan boys were all gathered here.
Satu, satu, satu Ajahn 🙏🙏🙏❤️
DhsA 29: "Ābhidhammika-bhikkhūyeva kira Dhammakathikā nāma, avasesā Dhammakathaṃ kathentāpi na Dhammakathikā."
"Only those bhikkhus who understand the Abhidhammo are the true preachers of the Dhammo; the rest (other bhikkhus) even though they talk about the Dhammo, cannot be called a preacher of Dhammo."
Like a Vedic brahmana can
be called a brahmana. This
is true, but The Buddho spoke
of the Arahat as a brahmana
(supreme).
Teaching the Suttas may be
called the preacher of the
Dhammo, this is true, but the
true preacher of Dhammo, is
the bhikkhu who understands
Abhidhammo!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
this guy is NOTan true authentic therevadin monk. he was expelled from the true orthodox therevadin order for blasphemies. i dont take a single of what he says to be true.
try to learn and undestand buddhism.the things you can not undestand are not fake.the thing is you can not undestand . you must know you can not undestrant them. please do not destory buddhism.
Am in full agreement with Ajan Brahm. Keep it simple. And Meditate . Meditate and Meditate
Sadu!!
those rovbes arent even the proper colour orange for a therevadin monk.
He is correct of course. Thank you for saying it Ajahn Brahm! Always courageous. Sadhu sadhu! 🙏
We need to hear that from monks. And move away from traditional beliefs. Modern objective research has greatly improved and is really helping. Only beliefs and perhaps a kind of denial can still make one hold the view that abhidhamma is not a later development. It doesn't mean we have to throw it out the window! But we must keep it in that perspective.
In general in our approach to the Dhamma we need to have the courage to see facts as they are. Including historical facts. Even if it's unpleasant at first. In particular if we wish to see Buddha Dhamma settle in the West. And if we do it, in time it will also help Asian Buddhism to carry on through modern times. We can do without the mythological stories now (which were added in ancient India to suit minds of that time).
And by the way... The suttas and vinayas are pretty similar in all early schools. Abhidhammas on the contrary are very different. They date from early sectarian Buddhism (which is a good while after the Buddha), when interpretations and philosophies began to vary...
Just as mahayana texts are later developments. But again it doesn't mean we should discard those developments. They are saying something to us, they are all belonging to the buddhist tradition, based on the Buddha's teachings, and we can use them skilfully 🙏🌸🌺🌼
Y can't change the Buddhism or principles or Buddha's word the way y like . Anyone can't change this truth. So try to reach to the someone who knows very well about this topic . Unless pointless to argue with someone who completely blind and try to see the world .pls without knowing anything don't try to argue . Feel sorry about the people who post here without know anything about Buddhism or Buddha's preaching. Go and learn from India , srilanka or Thailand .if not find out someone from Asia .
Shame..! I thought he's a respectable monk.. before I watched this of course.
He is
Everyone has their ownway of understanding ☺