Kevin how's it going man glad to see you on RUclips again LOL everyone watching it then this guy will hook you up he knows what he's talking about all the lights on my car all were recommended by him and I've been very satisfied hopefully I'll get a custom headlight made soon Kevin Panther lights Kick-Ass
@@PantherLights when you get a chance can you do a step by step video of how to do the turn signal mod because I want to make my side marker bulbs flash also I've seen a few videos on RUclips but they don't really do step by step to show how to splice the wires together to allow the side marker bulbs to actually blink together
@@PantherLights no worries man. It’s your craft if anyone has an issue they can continue buying the Spec D headlights that look and perform terrible for a rape price 😂
Thanks for pointing these out. Like many, I find that the headlights on my Vic suck. I did the relay mod, and while it helped a bit it's still not great. Anyway, what 'color' are these? My Vic is 100% stock, and having really white/blue LED lights would look out of place on the car. Are these stark white or a more warmer white? Does it say anywhere what color temperature these things are? Thanks!
GTR lighting are the best no doubt about it. But what you are using is an aftermarket headlight for a Crown Victoria which does give a shitty being pattern if you use the original from Ford you get a much better Bean pattern and that I know for a fact. Even though they cost a little bit more money OEM is much much better then aftermarket.
Oh I completely agree. From my experience, the DEPO brand, is by far the least "shitty" in terms of overall quality when comparing to the original OEM housings.
Sure, ask as many questions as you need to. There are two stacks of LED diodes on the bulb. When activating the high beam, the second set of LEDs illuminate, in turn moving the beam pattern upward. These do have a true high beam, unlike many other LEDs on the market these days.
So, In stock form with halogens lighting on crown Vic’s is so bad you can run your high beam as low beam in most cases on the highway without any fuss from oncoming traffic or flashing etc. There’s a highway in New York that stretches pretty far from near NYC up to I believe Massachusetts. It’s notorious for its twists and turns, and very unforgiving accidents not to mention how dark it gets. The road is also EXTREMELY narrow,I’m talking some sections you are less than 1Ft between you the car you may be overtaking and the guardrail OR if you’re in right lane there are portions with rock walls that have the propensity to have mini land slides and there are plenty of “fallen rock zone” signs. It’s called the TACONIC STATE PARKWAY, no trucks allowed although on this night some unfortunate 18 wheeler ended up on it, likely because how rainy it was and the bad visibility he could not read signs warning against it. At any rate, onthat road a few weeks ago I was driving in the crown Vic I had just picked up from Brooklyn which had stock headlights and my fiancé was driving my other crown Victoria which is “upgraded” with a set of boslla iirc ( spelling may be off) LED 3 color mode head lights ( nice bright blue white color/ then a mix of blue white and a deep yellow/ and finally a totally yellow mode which is good for not so great weather It’s the same color as the lights one night see on those cars that run 24 hours of Le Mans and use yellow headlights. I was fighting flooding roads/shoulder, adjusting to a new car that I had 0 seat time in on the most challenging stretch of road I know & the DANGEROUS lack of proper lighting emitted from the stock housing & halogen bulbs in the new Vic I’d gotten. There were times when I essentially used my high beams while oncoming traffic was close and the oncoming traffic basically is so close if they have An issue you’re easily able to get collected in it because of how the railing is designs and the lack of space. There was times when I was getting blinded badly by all the new pickup trucks and sedans with their fancy shmancy adaptive led headlights, laser lights etc. i don’t think some of them even saw my high rams coming they were so dim because not a soul flashed me and believe me they are quick to do so if they’re bothered by the brightness of your lights. I had my fiancé lead us up in my car since she was familiar with it and it has the better lights not to mention the fact that she wears glasses. Ideally I’d drive in front and sort of lead the “charge “ on up north but the stock lights are just not cutting it. I find it hard to believe they even were able to pass the requirements for lighting from 99-2010. Idk if they had the testing we have these days but tons of vehicles out there don’t put out enough light and then there are those that put out too much. Every new Acura product or product with their “jewel eye” headlight blinds me HORRIBLY and they can probably see my future their headlights are so bright… If anyone is reading this and thinking of a crown Vic . Night time driving with the stock lights is a chore so I strongly recommend upgrading, panther lighting when he’s able to get more product done quicker is going to literally save lives I bet be it from animals in the road or people being able to see more clearly at night.
I'm not sure how I missed this comment, so I apologize for that! You hit it right on the nose...I'm truly not sure how on earth these housings were able to meet the requirements back then, for so long too. These headlights are the reason my business even exists...yes the LEDs are great, but a proper projector setup is life changing, and as you mentioned has the potential to truly save lives. Understandably, these come at a cost that a fair amount of Panther owners aren't necessarily comfortable spending on "just headlights" (my favorite) but I feel that table is starting to turn and more people are starting to see the value in actually seeing at night, without blinding literally everyone else on the road creating an even more dangerous environment.
I have a 2001 Grand Marquis . New housings, new halogen bulbs. I drive around with the headlights on bright all the time. Not once have I been flashed. They are that dim. They're so bad that the FACTORY sealed beams on my 2001 F-350 are significantly brighter.
I had guy motion at me tonight to turn my lights on in my crown vic. I rolled my window down and told him there were on. They are so dim that people think they are my parking lights. 🤦🏼♂️
This video is specifically about the bulbs only, not including headlight assemblies. If you have a Crown Vic, you’ll need the 9007 bulbs and I can link you to that below 👇🏻 pantherlights.com/collections/led-bulbs/products/9007-gtr-lighting-ultra-2-0?variant=39611136737389
A proper projector setup is easily superior to any drop in LED, you still may have made the right choice. This is why we offer so many projector headlight options for the Panther community.
These were brand new aftermarket headlights. You’re correct though, the aftermarket’s beam pattern isn’t quite as good a lot of the time. In the case of the Crown Vic, it almost doesn’t matter. Those headlights just suck all the way around lol
My apologies for missing this. I actually have full replacement headlights for the square headlights that have an integrated LED with a proper beam pattern that is DOT legal. You can actually see those here; pantherlights.com/products/4x6-retrobright-led-headlights?_pos=2&_psq=Retrobr&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=39694451277933
Hey I work as a security guard and company swaps my work vehicle often but always crown Vic's... Pretty much all of them are from 2000-2011. If I get one of these bulbs will they work in any of the crown vics? Or only certain years
Hey man im trying to buy these bulbs for my 2011 vic but it offers options for all types of extentions for the bulb and it also offers a anti flicker module for another 55 bucks im just wondering if i need any of these extensions to make them fit and if the anti flicker module is something i should get or not? thanks man!
There are no drop in LEDs that are approved for on road use here in the States. That said, I’ve never heard of, or had any customer of mine suggest they’ve ever been in any legal trouble due to their LED headlights.
@@PantherLights Yes, LED headlights are legal. LED lighting is now standard in new cars, but LED headlights cannot be brighter than 3,000 lumens.Oct 26, 2022
Notice I said “drop in” LEDs. Car manufacturers are making LED headlights, those are not included. There are no LED bulbs that you can buy to put into your halogen reflector headlights and keeping the DOT happy.
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One huge issue I have seen is some of these led bulb are clocked 90 degrees for headlights with yop and bottom reflect the beam, where the crown vic is sides reflect the beam. as well as having crap chips and just stuck one with the mindset "meh good enough" Hence why many led high beams arent that much brighter. as you know especially with led, location and focus is crucial. Now if only the headlights could actually look good 😂😂🤣🤣 Too big and square, IMO of course. But good looking out!
Yeah, there’s too much of “meh good enough” out there lol no one takes the time to educate themselves and understand how these minor adjustments affect literally everyone on the road. I’ll be doing another video soon, one a bit better and thorough. As well as installation instructions.
The headlights on these cars are DANGEROUSLY bad. My dad bought another one after his last one exploded a near decade ago and I have no fucking idea how he would drive to work at 3AM everyday on these things. If there is even a little condensation on your windshield it's like they're not even on. I want to retrofit but that is expensive...
Yeah, I feel that. They are rather pricey, but they certainly are the best option available and worth the added cost in my opinion, plus the lifetime warranty.
Federal guidelines specify that headlights must have a luminous intensity between 500 and 3,000 lumens - anything beyond this level is considered too bright and may not meet legal requirements. Feel lucky?
Why does that matter? Having a led bulb that produce form 2000-6500 lumens per bulb is still a must upgrade led. No matter what. Anything that’s below or above 3000 lumens for low beams is on the sweet spot. Anything that’s below or above 5000 lumens on high beams is on sweet spot. Anything below or above 2500 lumens for fog lights is a sweet spot. I’d upgrade led with lumens that less, meet, or exceed the luminacity of 3000. Lumens is not the right measurement for when u put led bulbs inside the optics of the projector or reflector headlights. This is luxury measurement. It’s more useful.
Kevin how's it going man glad to see you on RUclips again LOL everyone watching it then this guy will hook you up he knows what he's talking about all the lights on my car all were recommended by him and I've been very satisfied hopefully I'll get a custom headlight made soon Kevin Panther lights Kick-Ass
Very impressive, I'll be getting some of these.
Excellent! You will not be disappointed!
@@PantherLights I also have some Ford focus foglights that I will be installing, do ya'll make led bulbs for them as well?
@@krownvikkhris3004 most certainly do!
@@PantherLights ok, I'll hit you up on Instagram
@@PantherLights when you get a chance can you do a step by step video of how to do the turn signal mod because I want to make my side marker bulbs flash also I've seen a few videos on RUclips but they don't really do step by step to show how to splice the wires together to allow the side marker bulbs to actually blink together
Very good video, I will replace my bulbs with this one. Thanks!!
You’re very welcome. There is a new updated video coming soon!!
Excellency explanation. May seem a little detailed, but it’s necessary so you don’t screw up.
Thanks
I appreciate the positive feedback. You’re right, there are a ton of details and I can easily get long winded because I nerd out on things like this 😂
@@PantherLights no worries man. It’s your craft if anyone has an issue they can continue buying the Spec D headlights that look and perform terrible for a rape price 😂
😂😂😂😂
Have any reports been made of a panther needing anti-flickering adaptors?
Great video!
Thanks
Thanks for pointing these out. Like many, I find that the headlights on my Vic suck. I did the relay mod, and while it helped a bit it's still not great.
Anyway, what 'color' are these? My Vic is 100% stock, and having really white/blue LED lights would look out of place on the car. Are these stark white or a more warmer white? Does it say anywhere what color temperature these things are? Thanks!
Great point. They are a crisp white at 5500k.
GTR lighting are the best no doubt about it. But what you are using is an aftermarket headlight for a Crown Victoria which does give a shitty being pattern if you use the original from Ford you get a much better Bean pattern and that I know for a fact. Even though they cost a little bit more money OEM is much much better then aftermarket.
Oh I completely agree. From my experience, the DEPO brand, is by far the least "shitty" in terms of overall quality when comparing to the original OEM housings.
What happens when you go to high beams? Longer beam? Brighter? Im soo close to buying these, thats my last question.
Sure, ask as many questions as you need to.
There are two stacks of LED diodes on the bulb. When activating the high beam, the second set of LEDs illuminate, in turn moving the beam pattern upward. These do have a true high beam, unlike many other LEDs on the market these days.
So, In stock form with halogens lighting on crown Vic’s is so bad you can run your high beam as low beam in most cases on the highway without any fuss from oncoming traffic or flashing etc. There’s a highway in New York that stretches pretty far from near NYC up to I believe Massachusetts. It’s notorious for its twists and turns, and very unforgiving accidents not to mention how dark it gets. The road is also EXTREMELY narrow,I’m talking some sections you are less than 1Ft between you the car you may be overtaking and the guardrail OR if you’re in right lane there are portions with rock walls that have the propensity to have mini land slides and there are plenty of “fallen rock zone” signs. It’s called the TACONIC STATE PARKWAY, no trucks allowed although on this night some unfortunate 18 wheeler ended up on it, likely because how rainy it was and the bad visibility he could not read signs warning against it.
At any rate, onthat road a few weeks ago I was driving in the crown Vic I had just picked up from Brooklyn which had stock headlights and my fiancé was driving my other crown Victoria which is “upgraded” with a set of boslla iirc ( spelling may be off) LED 3 color mode head lights ( nice bright blue white color/ then a mix of blue white and a deep yellow/ and finally a totally yellow mode which is good for not so great weather It’s the same color as the lights one night see on those cars that run 24 hours of Le Mans and use yellow headlights.
I was fighting flooding roads/shoulder, adjusting to a new car that I had 0 seat time in on the most challenging stretch of road I know & the DANGEROUS lack of proper lighting emitted from the stock housing & halogen bulbs in the new Vic I’d gotten. There were times when I essentially used my high beams while oncoming traffic was close and the oncoming traffic basically is so close if they have An issue you’re easily able to get collected in it because of how the railing is designs and the lack of space. There was times when I was getting blinded badly by all the new pickup trucks and sedans with their fancy shmancy adaptive led headlights, laser lights etc. i don’t think some of them even saw my high rams coming they were so dim because not a soul flashed me and believe me they are quick to do so if they’re bothered by the brightness of your lights.
I had my fiancé lead us up in my car since she was familiar with it and it has the better lights not to mention the fact that she wears glasses. Ideally I’d drive in front and sort of lead the “charge “ on up north but the stock lights are just not cutting it. I find it hard to believe they even were able to pass the requirements for lighting from 99-2010. Idk if they had the testing we have these days but tons of vehicles out there don’t put out enough light and then there are those that put out too much. Every new Acura product or product with their “jewel eye” headlight blinds me HORRIBLY and they can probably see my future their headlights are so bright…
If anyone is reading this and thinking of a crown Vic . Night time driving with the stock lights is a chore so I strongly recommend upgrading, panther lighting when he’s able to get more product done quicker is going to literally save lives I bet be it from animals in the road or people being able to see more clearly at night.
I'm not sure how I missed this comment, so I apologize for that!
You hit it right on the nose...I'm truly not sure how on earth these housings were able to meet the requirements back then, for so long too. These headlights are the reason my business even exists...yes the LEDs are great, but a proper projector setup is life changing, and as you mentioned has the potential to truly save lives. Understandably, these come at a cost that a fair amount of Panther owners aren't necessarily comfortable spending on "just headlights" (my favorite) but I feel that table is starting to turn and more people are starting to see the value in actually seeing at night, without blinding literally everyone else on the road creating an even more dangerous environment.
I have a 2001 Grand Marquis . New housings, new halogen bulbs. I drive around with the headlights on bright all the time. Not once have I been flashed. They are that dim.
They're so bad that the FACTORY sealed beams on my 2001 F-350 are significantly brighter.
Is that a factory headlight housing or aftermarket?
Great question. I am using the DEPO branded headlight in this video, as I find it's the highest quality aftermarket assembly.
I had guy motion at me tonight to turn my lights on in my crown vic. I rolled my window down and told him there were on. They are so dim that people think they are my parking lights. 🤦🏼♂️
Lol ouch, I know the Crown Vic headlights are notoriously bad!
Got pulled over for having my "parking lights" on at night.
😂 that bad, huh?
Send me the link please I want to buy these headlights
For sure! What size bulbs do you need?
@@PantherLights don't the headlights come with the bulbs?
This video is specifically about the bulbs only, not including headlight assemblies. If you have a Crown Vic, you’ll need the 9007 bulbs and I can link you to that below 👇🏻
pantherlights.com/collections/led-bulbs/products/9007-gtr-lighting-ultra-2-0?variant=39611136737389
You need to put some tags in for Lincoln Town Car. I would have tried these, but I just spung for projectors. I can stand the terrible lighting.
A proper projector setup is easily superior to any drop in LED, you still may have made the right choice. This is why we offer so many projector headlight options for the Panther community.
Ihave the h13 wish someone could do this for that housing
What kind of vehicle do you have? That might be a possibility…
@@PantherLights 08 grand Marquis
Will these fit my 01 grand marquis gs
Yep, they sure will.
Were those OEM housings or aftermarket? I’ve noticed aftermarket housings seem to really suck with light scatter and wonky beam pattern.
These were brand new aftermarket headlights. You’re correct though, the aftermarket’s beam pattern isn’t quite as good a lot of the time. In the case of the Crown Vic, it almost doesn’t matter. Those headlights just suck all the way around lol
@@PantherLights you ain’t wrong tho.
@@PantherLightsshould i upgrade my headlamps or just keep the original headlamps ?
I’ve got a 89 crown Vic LTD. Any suggestions for LEDS? Read some people installing LEDS with an old system and having problems.
My apologies for missing this. I actually have full replacement headlights for the square headlights that have an integrated LED with a proper beam pattern that is DOT legal.
You can actually see those here;
pantherlights.com/products/4x6-retrobright-led-headlights?_pos=2&_psq=Retrobr&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=39694451277933
Hey I work as a security guard and company swaps my work vehicle often but always crown Vic's... Pretty much all of them are from 2000-2011. If I get one of these bulbs will they work in any of the crown vics? Or only certain years
They will work with any of the 98-11 Vics 😊
What about on an 08 Grand marquis?
Hey man im trying to buy these bulbs for my 2011 vic but it offers options for all types of extentions for the bulb and it also offers a anti flicker module for another 55 bucks im just wondering if i need any of these extensions to make them fit and if the anti flicker module is something i should get or not? thanks man!
These will not require any of the extra add ons for a Crown Vic. 9007 is the only option you’ll need to select.
do any 907s bulbs fit on the grand marquis?
What year is your Grand Marquis?
@@PantherLights A 02, i just didnt want to buy the wrong ones that wont fit thinkin they will
It says they are not DOT approved. Would they pass an inspection?
There are no drop in LEDs that are approved for on road use here in the States. That said, I’ve never heard of, or had any customer of mine suggest they’ve ever been in any legal trouble due to their LED headlights.
@@PantherLights Yes, LED headlights are legal. LED lighting is now standard in new cars, but LED headlights cannot be brighter than 3,000 lumens.Oct 26, 2022
Notice I said “drop in” LEDs. Car manufacturers are making LED headlights, those are not included.
There are no LED bulbs that you can buy to put into your halogen reflector headlights and keeping the DOT happy.
@@PantherLights Understood. Thanks for your time. Take it easy.
According to Panther light they are illegal for street use in headlights
How do I contact you with questions??? Email address???
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You can also email me at;
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@@PantherLights I do not see a contact form on website???? I will email
The price is very high and exaggerated!! I can put lenses at this value
One huge issue I have seen is some of these led bulb are clocked 90 degrees for headlights with yop and bottom reflect the beam, where the crown vic is sides reflect the beam. as well as having crap chips and just stuck one with the mindset "meh good enough" Hence why many led high beams arent that much brighter. as you know especially with led, location and focus is crucial.
Now if only the headlights could actually look good 😂😂🤣🤣 Too big and square, IMO of course. But good looking out!
Yeah, there’s too much of “meh good enough” out there lol no one takes the time to educate themselves and understand how these minor adjustments affect literally everyone on the road.
I’ll be doing another video soon, one a bit better and thorough. As well as installation instructions.
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Oof 😅 😂
maybe you'll get a few less people to blind the shit out of me!
That’s the point, let’s hope this catches on lol
I was looking at the specs for the bulbs. They are not street legal in the USA for headlights. Dog lights only
You are correct. There are NO LED sold in the US that are legal for use on the road, this is not exclusive to the Ultra 2
The headlights on these cars are DANGEROUSLY bad. My dad bought another one after his last one exploded a near decade ago and I have no fucking idea how he would drive to work at 3AM everyday on these things. If there is even a little condensation on your windshield it's like they're not even on.
I want to retrofit but that is expensive...
Yeah, you’re not kidding. They’re awful!!
That’s expensive 🤝 actually I need something brighter farther rang but economic, that any one can buy
Yeah, these aren’t cheap but you certainly won’t find another set that performs this well. Not at the moment anyway.
It's a shame that they cost so much.
Yeah, I feel that. They are rather pricey, but they certainly are the best option available and worth the added cost in my opinion, plus the lifetime warranty.
Federal guidelines specify that headlights must have a luminous intensity between 500 and 3,000 lumens - anything beyond this level is considered too bright and may not meet legal requirements.
Feel lucky?
Why does that matter?
Having a led bulb that produce form 2000-6500 lumens per bulb is still a must upgrade led.
No matter what. Anything that’s below or above 3000 lumens for low beams is on the sweet spot.
Anything that’s below or above 5000 lumens on high beams is on sweet spot.
Anything below or above 2500 lumens for fog lights is a sweet spot.
I’d upgrade led with lumens that less, meet, or exceed the luminacity of 3000.
Lumens is not the right measurement for when u put led bulbs inside the optics of the projector or reflector headlights.
This is luxury measurement. It’s more useful.