For me, even though Second Chances is one of my favorites to rewatch, it always hurts seeing Peih-Gee go out so early all because she didn't get on with Abi. What could have been...
I've always thought Ami's return was the most disappointing. Went from the women's kingpin calling the shots with an emotional edge and intrigue to her character to her return where she seemed wholly lost, fizzled out, and ended her run by groveling to Ozzy with tears in her eyes. It was a huge difference from her first run. She ended up revealing it was because she lost a very close friend right before the game and she was in the wrong headspace, which is very understandable.
Agree I would have loved to see Ami with the Black Widow Brigade at the end. I’d put Ami on the list over Yau Man because Yau Man came off as very unlucky and was the biggest threat of his alliance.
In fairness to both Ami and Yau-Man, the Fairplay quit at the first tribal really messed up their games. Fairplay was 100% with them to take out Parv/Ozzy/Amanda/James and his quit ruined their numbers and caused Cirie to flip. Ami also got screwed after the tribe swap where she was a key part of setting up a plan to blindside Ozzy, which got ruined by Chet quitting. Two unfortunate quits really screwed her that season
I feel like Danni from Winners at War, while more recent, is still definitely worth a mention. It's well known that she turned down numerous offers to come back, and would only play again under the condition that it was an all-winners season. She finally gets that opportunity, and not only tanks her own game early on, but every other old school players' as well. Truly astonishing.
I just suggested to @Peridiam that Danni should be in his next video because I thought she was a disappointing returning player too! When I found out she was going to be on Winners at War, I actually didn't even remember her or the first season she played on.
@@roger_towny_jr I wasn't aware it was out of her control, so I guess I'll have to cut her some slack for that. Still, a lot of fans were rooting pretty hard for Danni to make it far, so her gameplay in Winners at War is still disappointing in one way or another.
For me, it was Russell Hantz’s third outing. He essentially played the same game in his first two seasons, but he could get away with that because nobody knew who he was on Heroes vs Villains. He tried the same strategy again on the third season, but everyone was wise to it and booted him early. The man made zero effort to evolve his game.
To be fair, it VERY nearly didn't work his second time in HvV and required a Hail Mary play at the Tyson vote to work out in order for him to do well. He banked on similar plays to work out in Redemption Island and Australian Survivor and they simply didn't, whereas he would've survived the first vote in both those cases had he played to survive the vote rather than hoping he lucked out and had a smooth path going forward.
@@chriscapps206 I feel like it could've maybe worked in Australian survivor if he was in... quite literally any other season of Australian survivor other than champions vs contenders, where he was brought on specifically BECAUSE of his American survivor career. If he was just brought in some random season and he nor the host mentioned that he was already a veteran survivor player, he could've MAYBE fared a bit better
4:53 apparently, Brenda just ended a relationship with an ex before the season began and it was really messy and she wasn't in the best state. she cried a lot in the game and was really passive in camp to, per post-season interviews.
To me, Francesca on Caramoan was really disappointing because I was super excited to see how a first boot would navigate the game. It really felt like they cast her just to force her to be a first boot again so I was annoyed at production for that lol
Players like Brenda and Ami were really interesting on their returning seasons, even though I guess you could also say they were disappointing. It really shows how much the way someone plays Survivor is impacted by what they're up to in their real life. Both were seen as cutthroat villains in their first seasons, but came back and really struggled to separate their emotions from the game.
Adding onto the Cambodia let down, I was so excited for PG to come back after being one Denise away from winning. And the fact that she got taken out in Abi Maria’s storm of “stolen“ jewelry really upset me
Watching Rob and Parvati come together in the premiere was legit one of my favorite moments on the show. I was so disappointed when they lost the numbers and were both gone early. Honestly, the boot list was so disappointing and only saved by an unbelievable Tony win. One other bright spot was seeing Sophie get the love she deserves
Couple things: 1) I’ve always said Hayden from BB/BvW should have come back in Game Changers instead of Caleb. Still get a crossover, but Hayden actually fits the theme a bit better. 2) You should do an inverse of this video: the players who came back and blew us away.
@@jaydenwallsmith1282 To be fair Courtney Yates though on the family visit episode that Todd sister's miscarriage was a bad version of the dead grandma lie.
I don’t consider Brenda’s return a disappointment at all- She made it further and was loved by fans. She was the reason to watch that season that casted many unlikable players. Brenda ❤️
She was invisible for most of the game which was very disappointing as she was a strategic force in her first season. She will be remembered in S26 for her jury question to Dawn which was epic. BTW: bring back individual jury questions at final tribal. We haven't had a moment during FTC since they started with the boring open forum in S34
Maybe you can also do a video that’s a reverse of this, returning players who outperformed your expectations. An example might be Sarah Lacina. Mediocre performance in Cagayan but I don’t think many people expected her to comeback in game changers and dominate so much.
i feel like wentworth in cambodia would be #1 on that as well. we saw nothing in sjds other than her dad tanking her game, and she was kinda put into the cambodia vote in list as a pretty face. but then what she managed to pull off blew everyone away and she over the course of a few months became one of the 3 most iconic non winning women ever.
I won’t lie I was impressed with Sarah’s game changers game but I don’t think she’s a great winner, especially after watching her on the challenge usa and seeing how her win seemed undeserved in several aspects! My personal #1 pick would probably be Jeremy from Cambodia, because he had to change his playstyle completely from SJDS, and he had to overcome what a big target he easily could have become within Cambodia. Sure he did have the advantage of playing with more noticeable threats compared to SJDS, but the way he still managed to position himself when he could have been an early target worked so well for him! Wentworth played a solid underdog game but Jeremy was the best player that season imo!
Unfortunately the biggest disappointment for my was JT in both his 2nd & 3rd chance. Tocantins was my first ever season watched, and boy did it hurt to see him disappoint two times in a row 😂
J.T. is one of my all-time favourite players, but where he failed in gameplay, he more than made up for in entertainment. Both "Heroes vs. Villains" and especially "Game Changers" suffer after he's voted out, and his boot episodes are both equally iconic. I think it should be mandated for J.T. to be in every season of "Survivor," just as this random force of chaos that players have to deal with. To hell with the hourglass and the beware advantages; just give me a situation where a tribe "wins" J.T. for a few episodes.
David Wright on Edge of Extinction. His whole arc on season 33 resonated with me on a personal level and I loved watching him learn his style of play and continually surprise himself. The cast is pretty tight, and I thought it was an emotional season throughout. But, it also felt like one of David’s biggest strengths his first time out was his metamorphosis. It’s really difficult to replay that on a second go, and he wound up playing against numbers who just weren’t as easily swayed by the more overt appeals of loyalty and underdog social strategy.
@@raheemfielder-bey998 and only 1/4 deserved to be DOA, we just didn't know it at the time until we found out a few years later how shitty he is and why literally everything to do with his tribe was hideously under-edited (they didn't want his racism to ruin the heroic perception)
@@alexpoage1078 the guy on the yellow tribe that joined a maga men's cult a few years back and literally used the n word around camp to the point he had to be yelled at by a teacher on his tribe who is married to a black guy.
Varner being a disappointment for so many reasons. But I have to point out times before the controversy. Varner was basically the narrator of the first four episodes of Cambodia. He had very funny confessionals and he oozed charisma. He was so good in that season in terms of TV entertainment that Probst fought to have him in Game Changers. Now IN Game Changers and BEFORE what happened, Varner was much more under the radar. In fact I think he learned a lot from his mistakes and was in a really good position up until the second swap that screwed him and Sandra. The problem was he was also not as electric and in your face as he was and therefore left very little of an impact. From a TV standpoint that was a disappointment... ...And then his departure happened that turned the disappointment into a downfall. Being purple or not a game changer, but what happened at the tribal is the real disappointment. And that is a MAJOR understatement.
And the Zeke and Varner story is a whole thing in itself, and what I mean by that is Varner said that post-game there was stuff cut out of that tribal that we didn't see like the affection he got from the players when they realized he was sorry for what happened. And to be fair, this is an edited show. We only see what the show wants us to see, maybe you believe what I said about the stuff that wasn't shown or not but Varner was there so it more than likely happened (not trying to defend Varner or anything but just giving some two cents about the whole situation)
@@cameronholmes5590 when I first watched that episode I was annoyed but I tried to give Varner the benefit of the doubt because we saw him show remorse and the edit could have left a lot out. The problem now is that there is no doubt about what a bigot Varner is in real life. I found this out recently when he commented on the tweet of a non-binary person I follow saying that their identity is a product of their trauma and isn’t real, and then saw his tweets about how trans women are actually gay men whom were not allowed to be gender non-conforming males. It’s all just more bullshit within the anti-trans movement and Varner was just being a condescending asshole trying to push his hate after people would point out how harmful his lies are to others! I wish this all wasn’t true, and I wish the discussion of trans rights wasn’t filled with so many garbage people like Varner, but I also think people like him illustrate why the anti-trans movement should not be taken seriously. At the end of the day, trans people just want to live their lives, and yet Varner looked awful trying to paint Zeke as untrustworthy purely for being trans. Stuff like that really shows that the anti-trans movement isn’t helping anyone, it’s just making trans people suffer, and that is why it needs to stop!
@@JRJuggernaut1 Yeah, he's an absolute bastard. He got raked over the coals for his behavior in that tribal council. If he acted even half as aggressive and disrespectful as he did in those tweets he would've just been done. The one good thing about all of it is that everyone stepped in to help Zeke, and Jeff also handled the situation well. Survivor was always ahead of the curve for this stuff.
@@Lechgang very true I like Zeke and was glad they brought him back for Game Changers along with Michaela from Millennials vs Gen X, so it was nice that people supported him during and after what happened with Varner. But it also really shows why trans people are such victims in all of this and not villains like how many bigots have tried to frame them. I mean many so called feminists will argue trans women present a danger to society and that they are the victims in all of this, but trans women are the true victims for how they cannot live their lives without someone trying to police them! Varner is the same way, seeing himself as a martyr for a necessary cause all while showing he is just a garbage human being inside and out!
I always view like a Survivor Arc as 3 Seasons for the most part. Anything after that or Before That (in BRs Case) is more like an epilogue or prologue.
he was also never really a strategist, just super charismatic and fun to be around when he wasn't on matsing losing (that whole expecting excellence/talking to god thing at that final immunity got a little weird)
Fun fact: I was on a trip with my family to North Carolina and I forgotten where exactly we were but we ate at a restaurant and our waiter was Tina Wesson from season 2, 8, and 27. It was a really cool experience
Top 10, in no particular order: The ones you already mentioned and precisely the same answer: Colton Cumbie in Blood vs. Water Kelly Wiglesworth at Cambodia Jeff Varner at Game Changers The ones I was genuinely disappointed with: Peih-Gee Law in Cambodia: PG was one of, if not my favorite player in China, but in Second Chance she was edited to have her whole arc as someone in Abi-Maria's path to chaos. There was nothing to be seen much of her, and much to my deception. Ethan Zohn in Winners at War: From all the old returnees, I had high hopes to see what Ethan could do after 18-19 years of winning (All-Stars doesn't count). But, in the end, there wasn't too much screentime or development and his elimination was to affect others in his alliance. "I expect nothing, and I'm still let down": Russell Swan in Philippines: Of all the returnees from that season, the one that not only was out of nowhere (If you would have told me that they were getting a medevac returnee that wasn't Skupin or Penner, I would have thought about Joe Dowdle or Kourtney Moon), but he still had problems with self-awareness, and being in a pretty bad tribe wasn't helpful at all. Candice Cody in both Heroes vs. Villains and in Blood vs. Water: It was pretty weird to see her in HvV, but I bet they needed someone to contrast the villainously of Parvati from Cook Islands and Becky Lee wasn't available. The problem was that she wasn't an important member of the Heroes Tribe or the Merge, not even when she flipped. And if you had told me that she was in BvW, I wouldn't have believed you. I didn't notice her, not even during her run in RI. Joe Anglim in Edge of Extinction: ... Do I even need to explain myself? He was the Purple Kelly of a lackluster season and didn't change his game plan as he had intended to. Other returnees: Rupert Boneham in Blood vs. Water: Cool to save your wife so she could play a couple more days I guess, but I don't think it was worth it. Not to mention that he got destroyed at RI J.T. Thomas: I was surprised he was called back. From all the players who made blunders and mistakes in Survivor history, and with Jeff Probst saying that "he could win again", it was pretty entertaining, and there was a chance for him to be as smart as he was in Tocantins... But he made the same type of mistakes as he did in HvV, and he made the wrong impact in Game Changers, not only having a disappointing run, but also causing the elimination of Malcolm and probably Sandra along the process...
Ethan’s Edge of Extinction screen time was the highlight of the season for me. Sure maybe he wasn’t in the game proper but he got a ton of screen time despite that and had an amazing arc of conquering his cancer.
Cambodia was more disappointing honestly. Everyone, with the exception of Abi and Kass, were gamebots. At least the Game Changers cast felt like their old selves.
@@midnalazuli793 Cambodia wasn't really a let down. A LOT of big players either kept their legacy or redeemed it despite not even making it as far. I'd say the only real let-downs in Cambodia were Vytas, Shirin, Peih-Gee, Woo and Wiglesworth. With Game Changers, I think at least half the cast had their worst or least memorable showings - basically everyone minus the three finalists, Cirie, Sierra, and Michaela were just... so unmemorable.
@@midnalazuli793 While I haven't watched Cambodia yet myself, I know that season's in the top 5 of basically every single Survivor ranking list ever. Surely the cast couldn't have been that bad.
South Pacific actually made Ozzy look worse, since it proved that he can’t make it far without a distorted twist like Redemption Island. It also showed his ugly side quite a few times.
I think being beaten at probably his most iconic game makes for a good exit from Ozzy. We saw him be a king on South Pacific, and now we saw him dethroned, so we're no longer left wondering if anyone could beat him.
I think you can tell he was genuinely pissed off with how unbalanced the season was. He didn't appreciate how the first-time players weren't really given a fair shot, seeing as how they were five episodes in, and only won a single challenge against a tribe of veterans. Phillip and Corinne obviously weren't helping either.
A few more mentions: 1. Colby - Superman in Australia, mediocre in All Stars, wimp on HvV. 2. Tasha - her ugly side was in full swing on second chance, and she was ridiculously obnoxious, so unlike Spencer, Tasha actually earned her spot in the zero votes club. 3. Stephanie L - I had expectations from her after Palau, but she was very obnoxious in Guatemala, especially in the ftc, and it honestly seemed like the game was controlled by Rafe, not her. In HvV, despite the outbursts from James, I had no sympathy for Steph whatsoever, because her attempt to cop out of blowing the immunity challenge and not being a team player at all was just pitiful. 4. Russell Swan - I was excited to see him back, but his run in Philippines was very disappointing. Granted, it’s because of the poorly performing Matsing tribe, but I still wish he’d last longer. 5. Aubry - she disappointed in EoE not only for getting blindsided early with an idol in her possession, but also for giving her jury vote to someone who wasn’t even in the game for around 70% of the time. She can’t claim THIS vote was based on gameplay.
Ewww this opinion reeks of personal bias and some of them are just flat out made up scenarios. 5 months and only 2 likes? Yikes. Good thing you didnt make the list...
Not disappointed in the way that they played, but I wish Terry got a better shake in Cambodia because I would’ve love to see another run to the end so many years later but obviously family comes first.
apparently according to wentworth he was the first one on that new tribe they wanted to boot, they were really annoyed by him but they couldn't show that if they never went to tribal and he left to be with his family.
You should do a video that's the opposite of this: Top 10 most surprising returning players. Players who fumbled in their previous season and then did amazing the next time. I think the shining example is Tyson. He totally screwed himself in HvV and then proceeded to play one of the best games of all time in BvW.
Shirin Oskooi didn’t like what she saw of Vytas on tv, so for that we were robbed of more of him :( Plus I imagine part of his lousy edit was because he refused to be sequestered with the other pre merge boots and went home instead to be with his newborn son
It's not fair to label someone as a Disappointing player just because they weren't gifted a good edit. Brenda placed 6th but would've won the game if she was at the end. Her and especially Erik don't get the credit they deserve in Caramoan because it was basically the Cochran Coronation show.
all 4 returnees were doa on edge of extinction, so i feel like that whole thing's a wash. aubry was going home her first tribal that she didn't have immunity/didn't play an idol no matter what, same with j0e. wentworth and david were in good positions on their premerge tribes but again can anyone honestly say they expected either of them to make it past where they did?
Aubry's edit in Game Changers was a bit lacking, but I actually enjoyed the ups and downs story we got from her. I also enjoyed that she was like the one person who saw through Sarah in the endgame of Game Changers but nobody would jump on board with her to make a move.
I personally enjoyed watching Brenda in Caramoan. I feel like Andrea and Brenda almost flipped roles on Caramoa based on each’s first season. Watching Brenda, however, was fun, and she legitimately could’ve won had Cochran not urged everyone to vote her out. Not to mention, the drama that was added with the hole Dawn betrayal added a compelling dynamic to the end of the season and will go down in survivor history as one of the coldest moves ever. None of that would’ve come to fruition if Brenda weren’t so nice in Caramoa.
Good list. I'm glad you mentioned Varner's worst move of Survivor history. I always considered Nick from Winners at War disappointing because he was the one I rooted for to win in D vs G
I was disappointed all-throughout Winners at War. All the old-school players I loved to watch just lost the numbers and got targeted immediately. It was so cool to see Yul again and the Alliance of Boston Rob, Parvati and Ethan was something I hoped could have at least made the merge. I get they had big targets and weren't great at adapting to the younger winners, but other than Tony and Natalie getting back in, once they were all booted I lost interest.
at least you can admit it. So many people pretend they were disappointed by the gameplay or the cast itself, just to cover up the fact that they're salty about their faves leaving early
Johnny Fairplay never really wanted to play Survivor again. Loved the exposure, loved the attention, loved the chance at a million dollars, hated the game. But at least on Pearl Islands he stood a chance to actually win the million. Not a chance in hell was that gonna happen once people actually knew him and his game. He just decided to earn an easy $2500 to turn up and goof off in Micronesia for a couple days. I believe he was always just going to quit or actively work to get voted off as early as possible.
I got two letters…. J… T… He really went from survivor legend for getting the first true perfect game. And one of the biggest hero characters in a season and actually winning… to a bumbling, easily manipulated, error ridden, voting bc of coffee people in HvV and Game Changers.
@@TitaniusCornwood actualllyyyy, Survivor production DID say he was the first perfect game but he got a single stray vote early in the season edit: episode 3, he got one vote from Rita
10:41 to be fair, Caleb is among the most impactfull Game changers: in part because of what happened to him in Khao Rong, production decided yo move to Fiji...permanente it seems.
In fairness to Yau, the sole reason he was even targeted in the first place was Cirie. She realized he’d be too hard to control. Same thing goes for Rob Cesternino, as Boston Rob himself admitted to in a podcast.
For me it's Cirie HvsV not because she played badly (i think she was amazing with what she had) but because i truly think she was at her best during this season and they cut her too soon (hopefully for them). Without Tom she would take easely the entire control of the heroes team i think. She really show how Amanda could be so naive.
My ten disappointing returning players in "Survivor" are 1) Brandon Hantz: Fans vs. Favs., 2) J.T.: "Survivor: HvsH" and "Survivor: Game Changers," 3) Danni from "Survivor: Winners at War," 4)PG from "Survivor: Second Chance," 5) Ami from "Survivor: Fans vs Favs" 1, 6) Rich from "Survivor: All-Stars," 7) Tony from "Survivor: Game Changers," 8) The Queen from "Survivor: Winners at War," 9) Ethan from "Survivor: All-Stars," and 10) Big Tom from "Survivor: All-Stars" (for trusting 'Boston Rob.')
I think Tom could’ve gone far had the Heroes not been so disastrous in their strategy. He and Cirie were pretty much the only Heroes with any real brains.
I don't think that's really fair. Colby and Tom both went into the game was a serious social disadvantage. It's clear Tom was capable strategically, but he just didn't have the numbers.
Joe's return in Edge of Extinction was pretty disappointing. In pre-game interviews he talked about learning from past mistakes, and yet proceeds to fall into the same trap, this time with a purple edit.
I don’t think Brenda deserves to be on this list. I think, Tony in Game Changer and Boston Rob in Winners at War were more disappointing than Brenda in Caramoan. Everyone seems to be biased towards Tony and Boston Rob.
For me, it’s Kelly Wig. I grew up watching her almost win on season 1 and was so excited to see her return, and then she was just *there* and I was so disappointed.
Watching Brenda fail so hard hurt me. She was by far one of my favorites. But this season just ruined it. And then the whole teeth thing… not a good look.
Johnny Fairplay being messed up was entirely his own fault. The reason he shattered his jaw was because he leapt onto another guy at an awards show and the guy threw him off. Johnny fell on his face. 100% his own fault.
Cirie didn't vote against Ozzy in game changers. I did like seeing them work together and the fact that Cirie didn't go after him like she did the first time.
Brenda is by far one of my favorite survivor contestants ever, and they did her so dirty with her edit in Caramoan. I think she played a much more strategic and intentionally under the radar game than they showed and she was able to alter her image from her previous season in order to survive longer. I'd love to see her come back again and do even better then last time.
Calling them disappointing players I think is a bit low. Disappointing returns maybe, but the emphasis being on the player feels a bit rude. I mean, come on, the nerve of calling Cesternino disappointing!
I don't think Brenda was a disappointing return, her edit was just bad. She won individual challenges, she was part of the majority alliance post merge and was part of the key decisions until they turned on her at the end, and she improved her position from 10 to 6. She knew after her first season she had to tone it down and it worked. It was frustrating watching the show knowing based on the edit no matter how far she got she had 0 chance to win.
They should change med-evacs to be like survivor:australia where you've got 24 hours out to see if you can recover enough to play. If you can't, you've left the game
How popular was Colton to survivor fans? People like a good villain, but I didn't think he was a good villain in One World. He was annoying. A good villain in Survivor is usually entertaining for their gameplay style, not personality. There are villianous players that are exceptions to this, but this is just my take on it. I don't know what the general opinion of him is though. Specifically from One World.
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For me, even though Second Chances is one of my favorites to rewatch, it always hurts seeing Peih-Gee go out so early all because she didn't get on with Abi. What could have been...
Same!
I loved Peih-Gee in China and I was so excited too
I didn't care for piegee in China and I was very unenthuised seeing her back,
I died when PG got voted out 3rd
Absolutely
I've always thought Ami's return was the most disappointing. Went from the women's kingpin calling the shots with an emotional edge and intrigue to her character to her return where she seemed wholly lost, fizzled out, and ended her run by groveling to Ozzy with tears in her eyes. It was a huge difference from her first run. She ended up revealing it was because she lost a very close friend right before the game and she was in the wrong headspace, which is very understandable.
I read that too. Pre merge Micronesia really isn’t that great with Yau-Man and Ami leaving early :(
That explains why she was so different
Agree I would have loved to see Ami with the Black Widow Brigade at the end. I’d put Ami on the list over Yau Man because Yau Man came off as very unlucky and was the biggest threat of his alliance.
Ami never stood a chance
In fairness to both Ami and Yau-Man, the Fairplay quit at the first tribal really messed up their games. Fairplay was 100% with them to take out Parv/Ozzy/Amanda/James and his quit ruined their numbers and caused Cirie to flip. Ami also got screwed after the tribe swap where she was a key part of setting up a plan to blindside Ozzy, which got ruined by Chet quitting. Two unfortunate quits really screwed her that season
I feel like Danni from Winners at War, while more recent, is still definitely worth a mention. It's well known that she turned down numerous offers to come back, and would only play again under the condition that it was an all-winners season. She finally gets that opportunity, and not only tanks her own game early on, but every other old school players' as well. Truly astonishing.
That actually wasn't her fault.
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Yea she kind of got thrown under the bus lol.
I just suggested to @Peridiam that Danni should be in his next video because I thought she was a disappointing returning player too! When I found out she was going to be on Winners at War, I actually didn't even remember her or the first season she played on.
It is Jeremy who tanked her game. Her paranoia was for a reason.
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I wasn't aware it was out of her control, so I guess I'll have to cut her some slack for that.
Still, a lot of fans were rooting pretty hard for Danni to make it far, so her gameplay in Winners at War is still disappointing in one way or another.
For me, it was Russell Hantz’s third outing. He essentially played the same game in his first two seasons, but he could get away with that because nobody knew who he was on Heroes vs Villains. He tried the same strategy again on the third season, but everyone was wise to it and booted him early. The man made zero effort to evolve his game.
To be fair, it VERY nearly didn't work his second time in HvV and required a Hail Mary play at the Tyson vote to work out in order for him to do well. He banked on similar plays to work out in Redemption Island and Australian Survivor and they simply didn't, whereas he would've survived the first vote in both those cases had he played to survive the vote rather than hoping he lucked out and had a smooth path going forward.
I mean that AU survivor run was possibly even more disappointing
@@chriscapps206 I feel like it could've maybe worked in Australian survivor if he was in... quite literally any other season of Australian survivor other than champions vs contenders, where he was brought on specifically BECAUSE of his American survivor career. If he was just brought in some random season and he nor the host mentioned that he was already a veteran survivor player, he could've MAYBE fared a bit better
How ironic is it tho that his tribe throws a challenge to get him out and then never win another challenge and then they get stomped out by rob
4:53
apparently, Brenda just ended a relationship with an ex before the season began and it was really messy and she wasn't in the best state.
she cried a lot in the game and was really passive in camp to, per post-season interviews.
It also rumors she was pregnant on island and didn’t know until firm was done
To me, Francesca on Caramoan was really disappointing because I was super excited to see how a first boot would navigate the game. It really felt like they cast her just to force her to be a first boot again so I was annoyed at production for that lol
Yeah, putting her on the same tribe as Special Agent Phil again was a weak move by the producers.
I actually don't understand why she was on that season. No offense to Francesca, but how is a first boot a favorite?
It was Fans vs. Favorites, they had no choice but to be on the same tribe
@@alexpoage1078 fair point. Maybe they should have saved her for Second Chance then?
Yes! That would have maybe worked better!
Players like Brenda and Ami were really interesting on their returning seasons, even though I guess you could also say they were disappointing. It really shows how much the way someone plays Survivor is impacted by what they're up to in their real life. Both were seen as cutthroat villains in their first seasons, but came back and really struggled to separate their emotions from the game.
I feel like ozzy was stuck in an old school survivor mindset, especially when he thought providing for the tribe would keep him around
I know, his "good luck eating" jab in game changers was so hilarious -- like dude, the game hasn't worked that way for at least 10 seasons
Adding onto the Cambodia let down, I was so excited for PG to come back after being one Denise away from winning. And the fact that she got taken out in Abi Maria’s storm of “stolen“ jewelry really upset me
I had such high hopes for the old school players in winner at war
It wasn’t their fault, they were outnumbered and targeted
Yul was done the dirtiest… all this time to go pre merge man
Watching Rob and Parvati come together in the premiere was legit one of my favorite moments on the show. I was so disappointed when they lost the numbers and were both gone early. Honestly, the boot list was so disappointing and only saved by an unbelievable Tony win. One other bright spot was seeing Sophie get the love she deserves
@@arjunkishore4080 that season needed the right player to win and im glad it was Tony
To be fair they were massively outnumbered and never really stood a chance as they were also pretty big targets outside of maybe Danni
Couple things:
1) I’ve always said Hayden from BB/BvW should have come back in Game Changers instead of Caleb. Still get a crossover, but Hayden actually fits the theme a bit better.
2) You should do an inverse of this video: the players who came back and blew us away.
If FairPlay didn’t leave episode 1, we wouldn’t have Parvati (he was gonna vote her out), so I’m okay with it
Imagine a world where instead of players fearing "Parvati 2.0" they feared "Fairplay 2.0"
@@jaydenwallsmith1282 To be fair Courtney Yates though on the family visit episode that Todd sister's miscarriage was a bad version of the dead grandma lie.
I think Cirie has said that it was never going to be Parvati, it was most probably going to be Eliza if not Fairplay
@@tenleeso10 Of course she thought that. She was going to be on the wrong side of the numbers.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Hmm I don’t think so
Man, you left out the one that shocked me the most. Rupert coming back and getting kicked on the first day because of his wife.
I don’t consider Brenda’s return a disappointment at all- She made it further and was loved by fans. She was the reason to watch that season that casted many unlikable players. Brenda ❤️
She wasn’t the disappointing part, her edit was. For being one of the top plsyers of the season, she should’ve been a far bigger presence.
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Agreed!!! I loved Brenda because of this season. She was so likeable and I felt she had a chance to win if she got to the end
Same it was such a nice redemption
She was invisible for most of the game which was very disappointing as she was a strategic force in her first season. She will be remembered in S26 for her jury question to Dawn which was epic. BTW: bring back individual jury questions at final tribal. We haven't had a moment during FTC since they started with the boring open forum in S34
Maybe you can also do a video that’s a reverse of this, returning players who outperformed your expectations. An example might be Sarah Lacina. Mediocre performance in Cagayan but I don’t think many people expected her to comeback in game changers and dominate so much.
i feel like wentworth in cambodia would be #1 on that as well. we saw nothing in sjds other than her dad tanking her game, and she was kinda put into the cambodia vote in list as a pretty face. but then what she managed to pull off blew everyone away and she over the course of a few months became one of the 3 most iconic non winning women ever.
I like this idea. People who spring to my mind are Boston Rob, Amber, Jenna L, Wentworth, Parvati, Sarah, Cochran, Tyson, Jeremy, Brad, and Michele.
I won’t lie I was impressed with Sarah’s game changers game but I don’t think she’s a great winner, especially after watching her on the challenge usa and seeing how her win seemed undeserved in several aspects!
My personal #1 pick would probably be Jeremy from Cambodia, because he had to change his playstyle completely from SJDS, and he had to overcome what a big target he easily could have become within Cambodia. Sure he did have the advantage of playing with more noticeable threats compared to SJDS, but the way he still managed to position himself when he could have been an early target worked so well for him! Wentworth played a solid underdog game but Jeremy was the best player that season imo!
An amazing comeback and transformation. From mediocre to becoming one of the best all stars.
Unfortunately the biggest disappointment for my was JT in both his 2nd & 3rd chance. Tocantins was my first ever season watched, and boy did it hurt to see him disappoint two times in a row 😂
J.T. is one of my all-time favourite players, but where he failed in gameplay, he more than made up for in entertainment. Both "Heroes vs. Villains" and especially "Game Changers" suffer after he's voted out, and his boot episodes are both equally iconic.
I think it should be mandated for J.T. to be in every season of "Survivor," just as this random force of chaos that players have to deal with. To hell with the hourglass and the beware advantages; just give me a situation where a tribe "wins" J.T. for a few episodes.
David Wright on Edge of Extinction. His whole arc on season 33 resonated with me on a personal level and I loved watching him learn his style of play and continually surprise himself. The cast is pretty tight, and I thought it was an emotional season throughout. But, it also felt like one of David’s biggest strengths his first time out was his metamorphosis. It’s really difficult to replay that on a second go, and he wound up playing against numbers who just weren’t as easily swayed by the more overt appeals of loyalty and underdog social strategy.
David, Kelley, Aubrey and Joe were all DOA that season with no chance of winning
@@raheemfielder-bey998 and only 1/4 deserved to be DOA, we just didn't know it at the time until we found out a few years later how shitty he is and why literally everything to do with his tribe was hideously under-edited (they didn't want his racism to ruin the heroic perception)
Whose racism? Joe's or David's?
@@alexpoage1078 Joe said nigga on EOE according to Julia
@@alexpoage1078 the guy on the yellow tribe that joined a maga men's cult a few years back and literally used the n word around camp to the point he had to be yelled at by a teacher on his tribe who is married to a black guy.
Varner being a disappointment for so many reasons. But I have to point out times before the controversy. Varner was basically the narrator of the first four episodes of Cambodia. He had very funny confessionals and he oozed charisma. He was so good in that season in terms of TV entertainment that Probst fought to have him in Game Changers. Now IN Game Changers and BEFORE what happened, Varner was much more under the radar. In fact I think he learned a lot from his mistakes and was in a really good position up until the second swap that screwed him and Sandra. The problem was he was also not as electric and in your face as he was and therefore left very little of an impact. From a TV standpoint that was a disappointment...
...And then his departure happened that turned the disappointment into a downfall. Being purple or not a game changer, but what happened at the tribal is the real disappointment. And that is a MAJOR understatement.
And the Zeke and Varner story is a whole thing in itself, and what I mean by that is Varner said that post-game there was stuff cut out of that tribal that we didn't see like the affection he got from the players when they realized he was sorry for what happened. And to be fair, this is an edited show. We only see what the show wants us to see, maybe you believe what I said about the stuff that wasn't shown or not but Varner was there so it more than likely happened (not trying to defend Varner or anything but just giving some two cents about the whole situation)
@@cameronholmes5590 when I first watched that episode I was annoyed but I tried to give Varner the benefit of the doubt because we saw him show remorse and the edit could have left a lot out.
The problem now is that there is no doubt about what a bigot Varner is in real life. I found this out recently when he commented on the tweet of a non-binary person I follow saying that their identity is a product of their trauma and isn’t real, and then saw his tweets about how trans women are actually gay men whom were not allowed to be gender non-conforming males. It’s all just more bullshit within the anti-trans movement and Varner was just being a condescending asshole trying to push his hate after people would point out how harmful his lies are to others! I wish this all wasn’t true, and I wish the discussion of trans rights wasn’t filled with so many garbage people like Varner, but I also think people like him illustrate why the anti-trans movement should not be taken seriously. At the end of the day, trans people just want to live their lives, and yet Varner looked awful trying to paint Zeke as untrustworthy purely for being trans. Stuff like that really shows that the anti-trans movement isn’t helping anyone, it’s just making trans people suffer, and that is why it needs to stop!
@@JRJuggernaut1 Yeah, he's an absolute bastard. He got raked over the coals for his behavior in that tribal council. If he acted even half as aggressive and disrespectful as he did in those tweets he would've just been done.
The one good thing about all of it is that everyone stepped in to help Zeke, and Jeff also handled the situation well. Survivor was always ahead of the curve for this stuff.
@@Lechgang very true I like Zeke and was glad they brought him back for Game Changers along with Michaela from Millennials vs Gen X, so it was nice that people supported him during and after what happened with Varner. But it also really shows why trans people are such victims in all of this and not villains like how many bigots have tried to frame them. I mean many so called feminists will argue trans women present a danger to society and that they are the victims in all of this, but trans women are the true victims for how they cannot live their lives without someone trying to police them! Varner is the same way, seeing himself as a martyr for a necessary cause all while showing he is just a garbage human being inside and out!
Ozzy in GC was a nice little epilogue to his arc because he was working with Cirie. Underwhelming, but I don't mind it.
I always view like a Survivor Arc as 3 Seasons for the most part. Anything after that or Before That (in BRs Case) is more like an epilogue or prologue.
Francesca is the most disappointing returnee because she still hasn't eaten that rock
I hope we have a first boot season, and Francesca's rock matures into a hidden immunity idol!
I would love to see her make it past the first round
Jeff ripping Colton when he quits is arguably his best moment
Colby in Heroes vs Villians. Watching him get manhandled by Coach... I cant even begin to describe my disappointment.
Probably the most embarrassing thing on survivor
love colby but that was sad. he was my FAV on australian outback but seeing the way he performed in All stars and HvV was disappointing.
I remember being hyped for Russell swans return in philliphines and he was gone so quick because of a horrible tribe
he was also never really a strategist, just super charismatic and fun to be around when he wasn't on matsing losing (that whole expecting excellence/talking to god thing at that final immunity got a little weird)
He never stood a chance against Denise and Malcolm.
The tribal that Jeff Varner went out in will always be hard to watch for me.
Kudos to how Zeke handled it though.
Outing Zeke still makes my skin crawl today
Fun fact: I was on a trip with my family to North Carolina and I forgotten where exactly we were but we ate at a restaurant and our waiter was Tina Wesson from season 2, 8, and 27. It was a really cool experience
That's both awesome and really sad
Top 10, in no particular order:
The ones you already mentioned and precisely the same answer:
Colton Cumbie in Blood vs. Water
Kelly Wiglesworth at Cambodia
Jeff Varner at Game Changers
The ones I was genuinely disappointed with:
Peih-Gee Law in Cambodia: PG was one of, if not my favorite player in China, but in Second Chance she was edited to have her whole arc as someone in Abi-Maria's path to chaos. There was nothing to be seen much of her, and much to my deception.
Ethan Zohn in Winners at War: From all the old returnees, I had high hopes to see what Ethan could do after 18-19 years of winning (All-Stars doesn't count). But, in the end, there wasn't too much screentime or development and his elimination was to affect others in his alliance.
"I expect nothing, and I'm still let down":
Russell Swan in Philippines: Of all the returnees from that season, the one that not only was out of nowhere (If you would have told me that they were getting a medevac returnee that wasn't Skupin or Penner, I would have thought about Joe Dowdle or Kourtney Moon), but he still had problems with self-awareness, and being in a pretty bad tribe wasn't helpful at all.
Candice Cody in both Heroes vs. Villains and in Blood vs. Water: It was pretty weird to see her in HvV, but I bet they needed someone to contrast the villainously of Parvati from Cook Islands and Becky Lee wasn't available. The problem was that she wasn't an important member of the Heroes Tribe or the Merge, not even when she flipped. And if you had told me that she was in BvW, I wouldn't have believed you. I didn't notice her, not even during her run in RI.
Joe Anglim in Edge of Extinction: ... Do I even need to explain myself? He was the Purple Kelly of a lackluster season and didn't change his game plan as he had intended to.
Other returnees:
Rupert Boneham in Blood vs. Water: Cool to save your wife so she could play a couple more days I guess, but I don't think it was worth it. Not to mention that he got destroyed at RI
J.T. Thomas: I was surprised he was called back. From all the players who made blunders and mistakes in Survivor history, and with Jeff Probst saying that "he could win again", it was pretty entertaining, and there was a chance for him to be as smart as he was in Tocantins... But he made the same type of mistakes as he did in HvV, and he made the wrong impact in Game Changers, not only having a disappointing run, but also causing the elimination of Malcolm and probably Sandra along the process...
Ethan’s Edge of Extinction screen time was the highlight of the season for me. Sure maybe he wasn’t in the game proper but he got a ton of screen time despite that and had an amazing arc of conquering his cancer.
You could’ve just listed half the cast of Game Changers.
Cambodia was more disappointing honestly. Everyone, with the exception of Abi and Kass, were gamebots. At least the Game Changers cast felt like their old selves.
@@midnalazuli793 I disagree. But your opinion is yours. You can have it.
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Thanks. And I'm not saying the Game Changers cast wasn't disappointing, it's just hard to ignore what a bigger letdown Cambodia is.
@@midnalazuli793 Cambodia wasn't really a let down. A LOT of big players either kept their legacy or redeemed it despite not even making it as far. I'd say the only real let-downs in Cambodia were Vytas, Shirin, Peih-Gee, Woo and Wiglesworth. With Game Changers, I think at least half the cast had their worst or least memorable showings - basically everyone minus the three finalists, Cirie, Sierra, and Michaela were just... so unmemorable.
@@midnalazuli793 While I haven't watched Cambodia yet myself, I know that season's in the top 5 of basically every single Survivor ranking list ever. Surely the cast couldn't have been that bad.
South Pacific actually made Ozzy look worse, since it proved that he can’t make it far without a distorted twist like Redemption Island. It also showed his ugly side quite a few times.
I think being beaten at probably his most iconic game makes for a good exit from Ozzy. We saw him be a king on South Pacific, and now we saw him dethroned, so we're no longer left wondering if anyone could beat him.
I had a dream last week that Jeff Varner came back for a fourth Survivor season. Even within the dream, I was really surprised, lmao.
I’m pretty sure he’s blacklisted from CBS for life. Lol
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Yeah, there's no way in hell he's coming back after what happened. And I feel like Zeke won't be back either because of it.
@@midnalazuli793 Zeke says that he's not coming back if he gets asked to play again and it's not because of the situation with Varner.
It's a captains season called Heroes vs Villains, with Varner leading the heroes that survived shame and Zeke leading the deceptive villains!
@@eagerturtle4791 I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN VARNER TRIED PITCHING HIS BOOK AT THE REUNION SHOW. AHAAAHA, DUDE, READ THE ROOM A LITTLE
Brandon legit returned just to pee on or discard his tribe's rice
What a madlad
I think you can tell he was genuinely pissed off with how unbalanced the season was. He didn't appreciate how the first-time players weren't really given a fair shot, seeing as how they were five episodes in, and only won a single challenge against a tribe of veterans. Phillip and Corinne obviously weren't helping either.
A few more mentions:
1. Colby - Superman in Australia, mediocre in All Stars, wimp on HvV.
2. Tasha - her ugly side was in full swing on second chance, and she was ridiculously obnoxious, so unlike Spencer, Tasha actually earned her spot in the zero votes club.
3. Stephanie L - I had expectations from her after Palau, but she was very obnoxious in Guatemala, especially in the ftc, and it honestly seemed like the game was controlled by Rafe, not her. In HvV, despite the outbursts from James, I had no sympathy for Steph whatsoever, because her attempt to cop out of blowing the immunity challenge and not being a team player at all was just pitiful.
4. Russell Swan - I was excited to see him back, but his run in Philippines was very disappointing. Granted, it’s because of the poorly performing Matsing tribe, but I still wish he’d last longer.
5. Aubry - she disappointed in EoE not only for getting blindsided early with an idol in her possession, but also for giving her jury vote to someone who wasn’t even in the game for around 70% of the time. She can’t claim THIS vote was based on gameplay.
Ewww this opinion reeks of personal bias and some of them are just flat out made up scenarios. 5 months and only 2 likes? Yikes. Good thing you didnt make the list...
Ozyy's 4 season arc reminds me of Toy Story movies. That's the best way I can picture it
Meh, with Ozzy it's 3 > 1 > 2 > 4, and with Toy Story it's 4 > 1 > 3 > 2
@@TheMeanderingduck6 yeah that's how i rank toy story movies 3>1>2>4
@@summerboychristianmedina Damn. 4 is by far leagues above. But that's just me
@@TheMeanderingduck6 ill rewatch it and see if my opinion changes hahaha only watched it once
@@summerboychristianmedina Interesting. I rank them 2>1>3>4
Not disappointed in the way that they played, but I wish Terry got a better shake in Cambodia because I would’ve love to see another run to the end so many years later but obviously family comes first.
apparently according to wentworth he was the first one on that new tribe they wanted to boot, they were really annoyed by him but they couldn't show that if they never went to tribal and he left to be with his family.
You should do a video that's the opposite of this: Top 10 most surprising returning players. Players who fumbled in their previous season and then did amazing the next time. I think the shining example is Tyson. He totally screwed himself in HvV and then proceeded to play one of the best games of all time in BvW.
Sarah in Game Changers should count for this distinction, too.
and then proceeded to screw himself on WaW
Shirin Oskooi didn’t like what she saw of Vytas on tv, so for that we were robbed of more of him :(
Plus I imagine part of his lousy edit was because he refused to be sequestered with the other pre merge boots and went home instead to be with his newborn son
Apparently he was also REALLY salty about being voted out first, since he was determined to go far that season.
@@midnalazuli793 To be fair, he literally said pre-season that he'd rather have not been a part of that season if he would go out first.
@@shadowninja6689
I know, and I understand that NOBODY wants to be the first person voted out, ESPECIALLY in an all-star season.
It's not fair to label someone as a Disappointing player just because they weren't gifted a good edit. Brenda placed 6th but would've won the game if she was at the end. Her and especially Erik don't get the credit they deserve in Caramoan because it was basically the Cochran Coronation show.
Also, Caleb (Colton’s bf) was such a sweetheart. I was so sad when I found out he was killed in a work accident.
I would definitely add Aubry and Danni to that list. But I'm sure they'll show up in the 2.0 version.
hearing how danni went out was a little disappointing that we didnt get the full picture
all 4 returnees were doa on edge of extinction, so i feel like that whole thing's a wash. aubry was going home her first tribal that she didn't have immunity/didn't play an idol no matter what, same with j0e. wentworth and david were in good positions on their premerge tribes but again can anyone honestly say they expected either of them to make it past where they did?
@@tdarkhorse4 Agreed, but it's her Game Changers game that disappointed me the most, even if she went pretty far.
Aubry's edit in Game Changers was a bit lacking, but I actually enjoyed the ups and downs story we got from her. I also enjoyed that she was like the one person who saw through Sarah in the endgame of Game Changers but nobody would jump on board with her to make a move.
@@eagerturtle4791 Fair point :)
Peridiam, love your affiliation with RHAP. Your contributions there are always a bright spot.
Tysons ice cold response to Colton is fucking amazing. Why does he even exist
I personally enjoyed watching Brenda in Caramoan. I feel like Andrea and Brenda almost flipped roles on Caramoa based on each’s first season. Watching Brenda, however, was fun, and she legitimately could’ve won had Cochran not urged everyone to vote her out. Not to mention, the drama that was added with the hole Dawn betrayal added a compelling dynamic to the end of the season and will go down in survivor history as one of the coldest moves ever. None of that would’ve come to fruition if Brenda weren’t so nice in Caramoa.
Both of JT’s returns should be on this list.
Good list. I'm glad you mentioned Varner's worst move of Survivor history. I always considered Nick from Winners at War disappointing because he was the one I rooted for to win in D vs G
I was disappointed all-throughout Winners at War. All the old-school players I loved to watch just lost the numbers and got targeted immediately. It was so cool to see Yul again and the Alliance of Boston Rob, Parvati and Ethan was something I hoped could have at least made the merge. I get they had big targets and weren't great at adapting to the younger winners, but other than Tony and Natalie getting back in, once they were all booted I lost interest.
at least you can admit it. So many people pretend they were disappointed by the gameplay or the cast itself, just to cover up the fact that they're salty about their faves leaving early
Love Rob C. Amazon is my favorite season ever (close with Pearl Islands). Got me really into Survivor. Wish he played a third time
Johnny Fairplay never really wanted to play Survivor again. Loved the exposure, loved the attention, loved the chance at a million dollars, hated the game. But at least on Pearl Islands he stood a chance to actually win the million. Not a chance in hell was that gonna happen once people actually knew him and his game. He just decided to earn an easy $2500 to turn up and goof off in Micronesia for a couple days. I believe he was always just going to quit or actively work to get voted off as early as possible.
Man, I remember when Jeff outed Zeke, that was hard to watch.
I got two letters…. J… T…
He really went from survivor legend for getting the first true perfect game. And one of the biggest hero characters in a season and actually winning… to a bumbling, easily manipulated, error ridden, voting bc of coffee people in HvV and Game Changers.
Earl from Fiji would like to have a word with you.
@@TitaniusCornwood actualllyyyy, Survivor production DID say he was the first perfect game but he got a single stray vote early in the season
edit: episode 3, he got one vote from Rita
I’ll add
- Colby (HvV)
- Sue Hawk (All stars)
- Randy (HvV)
- Woo (Cambodia)
- JT (Game Changers)
- Dani (WaW)
- Denise (WaW)
Considering what Ozzy has done since Survivor, that’s a good question.
...What has he done?
@@midnalazuli793 Porn, among other things
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Somehow, that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
10:41 to be fair, Caleb is among the most impactfull Game changers: in part because of what happened to him in Khao Rong, production decided yo move to Fiji...permanente it seems.
In fairness to Yau, the sole reason he was even targeted in the first place was Cirie. She realized he’d be too hard to control. Same thing goes for Rob Cesternino, as Boston Rob himself admitted to in a podcast.
Brenda was so watered down for no reason tbh, she had some good moments cut
For me it's Cirie HvsV not because she played badly (i think she was amazing with what she had) but because i truly think she was at her best during this season and they cut her too soon (hopefully for them). Without Tom she would take easely the entire control of the heroes team i think. She really show how Amanda could be so naive.
Woo from Cambodia was also a ghost on his season time. Did nothing and when he was talked about is the episode he got voted out.
My ten disappointing returning players in "Survivor" are 1) Brandon Hantz: Fans vs. Favs., 2) J.T.: "Survivor: HvsH" and "Survivor: Game Changers," 3) Danni from "Survivor: Winners at War," 4)PG from "Survivor: Second Chance," 5) Ami from "Survivor: Fans vs Favs" 1, 6) Rich from "Survivor: All-Stars," 7) Tony from "Survivor: Game Changers," 8) The Queen from "Survivor: Winners at War," 9) Ethan from "Survivor: All-Stars," and 10) Big Tom from "Survivor: All-Stars" (for trusting 'Boston Rob.')
I LOVE AUBRY!!!
but her EOE game better be in this list
Kelley Wentworth’s too IMO
Can you make a video of best returning players? That would be fun too
Also in fairness to Caleb, the sole reason he lost was a tribe swap coming after only 2 rounds (probably to save Sandra’s ass)
Took me a while to recover from Danni and Yul ;-;
My most disappointing were also Cesternino, Yau-Man, Wiggles and Brenda's unfortunate edit.
What about Troyzan in GameChangers? If I remember correctly he was in the final 3??
Troyzan was in Game Changers?! 🤔
You should do one the opposite of this where they either better their game or keep their same game (as great as their previous)
The most impressive returnee games in general or players who surpassed expectations upon returning, or just people who did better on returning games?
@@penguins776anything! Just played better or just as good as before
Colby and Tom in HvV. Really anyone who was good in challenges their first season and bad in their return
I think Tom could’ve gone far had the Heroes not been so disastrous in their strategy. He and Cirie were pretty much the only Heroes with any real brains.
Tom was a dead man walking. He had no pregame alliances built and the Micronesia alliance was just too much to overcome.
I don't think that's really fair. Colby and Tom both went into the game was a serious social disadvantage. It's clear Tom was capable strategically, but he just didn't have the numbers.
Omfg the Francesca Coach transition at the end 💀
I'd be interested in seeing the newbie version of this: 10 first-time players who didn't do as well as you thought or hoped for
Joe's return in Edge of Extinction was pretty disappointing. In pre-game interviews he talked about learning from past mistakes, and yet proceeds to fall into the same trap, this time with a purple edit.
Peih Gee, Danni, Brandon Hantz, Tom Westman, Sugar & Randy would all be somewhere high on my list
THANK YOU so much for mentioning brendas challenge dancing, top 10 survivor moment of all time
Brenda was so humble!
I was so excited for Jonny Fairplay to come back and it hurt to see him go out like that. Like he is one of the greatest villains of all time.
I don’t think Brenda deserves to be on this list.
I think, Tony in Game Changer and Boston Rob in Winners at War were more disappointing than Brenda in Caramoan.
Everyone seems to be biased towards Tony and Boston Rob.
nah boston rob was doing great in waw til he got swap-screwed
I was so excited for Brenda and then she was too irrelevant and invisible (despite making F6).
I would love love love to see Rob C play again
you should make a part two of this!!
I agree, so many other options
where's aubry?
Did you know Fairplay was on Judge Steve Harvey? This is a real thing that exists.
Honestly, I feel like Fairplay will appear on anything. He loves the publicity.
For me, it’s Kelly Wig. I grew up watching her almost win on season 1 and was so excited to see her return, and then she was just *there* and I was so disappointed.
I love Brenda in Caramoan but the edit that the show gave her was so bizarre
Ozzy at every vote out: "Good luck eating..."
Watching Brenda fail so hard hurt me. She was by far one of my favorites. But this season just ruined it. And then the whole teeth thing… not a good look.
Part 2 Needs the Applesauce scene from Jay and Silent Bob.
Aubrey’s in Edge of Extinction. I need not say more
Top 10 Not Disappointing Return Players Arch video please! Opposite idea of this video 😅
Johnny Fairplay being messed up was entirely his own fault. The reason he shattered his jaw was because he leapt onto another guy at an awards show and the guy threw him off. Johnny fell on his face. 100% his own fault.
Cirie didn't vote against Ozzy in game changers. I did like seeing them work together and the fact that Cirie didn't go after him like she did the first time.
I think is Joe. He did nothing in both seasons (he has done two seasons right?). He had no game plan, he just relied on winning challenges
3, World's Apart, Second Chances, Edge of Extinction
Brenda is by far one of my favorite survivor contestants ever, and they did her so dirty with her edit in Caramoan. I think she played a much more strategic and intentionally under the radar game than they showed and she was able to alter her image from her previous season in order to survive longer. I'd love to see her come back again and do even better then last time.
Rob has a podcast?
Calling them disappointing players I think is a bit low. Disappointing returns maybe, but the emphasis being on the player feels a bit rude. I mean, come on, the nerve of calling Cesternino disappointing!
I would say set decoration I mean Troyzan but I don't think he played twice
I don't think Brenda was a disappointing return, her edit was just bad. She won individual challenges, she was part of the majority alliance post merge and was part of the key decisions until they turned on her at the end, and she improved her position from 10 to 6. She knew after her first season she had to tone it down and it worked. It was frustrating watching the show knowing based on the edit no matter how far she got she had 0 chance to win.
They should change med-evacs to be like survivor:australia where you've got 24 hours out to see if you can recover enough to play. If you can't, you've left the game
I forget about Yao Man. He’s so cute. I hope he’s well where ever he is.
An honorable mention to Richard Hatch on All Stars.
i have been hoping for a Brenda return for years. But i don't think we will see any from that era again before maybe season 50.
What about JT ?
Surprised Rupert isn’t on the list. Went from hero to over inflated egotistical AH.
#1 aubry bracco
Of all the two-time players, the fact that Colton is the one to not be eliminated by being voted out stings.
How popular was Colton to survivor fans?
People like a good villain, but I didn't think he was a good villain in One World. He was annoying. A good villain in Survivor is usually entertaining for their gameplay style, not personality. There are villianous players that are exceptions to this, but this is just my take on it.
I don't know what the general opinion of him is though. Specifically from One World.
I always wondered what Caleb ever saw in him to point of almost marrying him if he didn't unfortunately get killed in his accident.