Funny anecdote I have about this story: I first read it when I was very young (like 10 or 11) and I never pieced together that Jordan was Superman, I assumed Lois had gotten pregnant before Superman died and this Jordan guy married her and adopted Jonathan. A few ears later I read it again and felt really, really stupid, but ever since that day I stopped being so hard on the people of Metropolis for not realising that Clark kent is Superman.
Sal gets one thing wrong though. According to Curt Swan, Alan Moor exacted uninterested as they had met during lunch and he was just eating(comic creators always discuss ideas over Lunch), when he head the words "Last Superman Story" Alan Moore's eyes widened, he stood up grabbed Swan by the throat and said if anyone else wrote it he would kill him" and so he got the job.
*Superman (red, glowing eyes; blasting through the wall):* "You both had better have a _very_ good reason for sending me my dead friend the way you did." *Prankster:* "...He's dead?!" _looks at Toyman_ "I thought you put holes in the box!" *Toyman:* "I'm a TOY MAN! I don't usually have to make sure my toys can breathe when I ship them out, man!" *Prankster:* "GODDAMMIT!"
@@srstriker6420 Toyman was used in two animated movies. One of them, he's a child genius working with the League (Batman/Superman: Public Enemies), and uses x-ray glasses on Power Girl. And in Superman/Doomsday...he was a child killer the clone Superman kills by dropping him from like...100 feet in the air onto a cop car.
Its not mentioned in here but "Whatever happened to....." was a common tagline for backup stories in DC comics.....they used it to wrap up the stories of characters that weren't being published regularly as deference to fans of those characters and usually included them as backup stories for other comics. For example their 40s characters that weren't published regularly would have their dangling plotlines resolved and then "retire". So the title itself is a reference to the practice of retiring old characters, just for one theu knew wouldn't ever have a "final" issue
I never picked-up the double of Metallo's threat: _"I have no pity! I have no heart!"_ He really doesn't have one, just a hunk of radioactive rock keeping him alive.
I’m so excited! I recently purchased “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow,” as well as its sister story “Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader” and fell in love with both! Also...you guys are just the best.
The Baby Display actually resembles airers they would use for infants around the 1920s - the 'box' would keep the baby from falling to their doom while you hung them out of your 20th story window or took them for a walk. It's more retrofuturism.
God Alan Moore really does know how to write comic books. He has such a fundamental understanding of the characters and their mythos, too bad it’s all bullshit
“Better” as in actually have stakes in their story instead of deaths which can easily get reversed by magic , time travel , clones...etc ? ( Love comics it’s just prefer you know more mature storytelling )
@Objective Quest Tbf, Alan also wants superheroes to continue being silly, weird and fun. Despite writing Watchmen, you can see how much he loves superheroes and fun adventures from his Tom Strong comic.
Definitely one of my favorites. It is up there with “For the Man Who Has Everything”, “Must There Be A Superman”, and two of the Silver Age imaginary stories (Superman Red & Blue, Death of Superman)
I’d say the race for best storytelling of comics comes down to back issues and comicsexplained’s format but I gotta say you guys take the cake. I love the semi informal style, stay gold lol
I held off watching this video as I have the same book, but hadn't read it yet. And after reading I enjoyed this episode just as much as the comic itself. I really love the extra info that Sal provides about why the book was written. Thanks, Sal. Additionally, the Superman and Swamp Thing story is really cool and I would recommend it too. Also, the collection has For The Man Who Has Everything. I really liked that story too and it's a must read for fans of the episode of Justice League Unlimited animated series.
Thank you guys so much for the years of amazing content. This was a great episode. Love to see when Alan Moore actually cared about comics and was in his prime.
Man, this was a killer story, and a killer episode! I'm currently taking an English class in college where we discuss comic books, and we just so happen to be talking about death in comics tomorrow. Looks like I get another example to bring to the table. Thanks, guys!
Yay! This one was Amazing. Thank you guys. I love Alan Moore. I know Sal says he's a jaded hypocrite. But his Works are Spectacular. Long Live Comic PoPulation!
It sounds like wat I did here at war lol mi ladies and mi lord y'all are doing wat I had it was gift of gab with that my friends I wish I could have a war have a good day this is awesome 😎❤️
This has probably been the most reread Superman story I have, since for where I lived didn’t have a lot of comic shops and money wasn’t easily gained so I ended up with a small copy of this story. Always came back to read it, no matter what.
Moore admittedly did a great job with this story, and I would never knock it, but it's not the best late-pre-Crisis Superman story. There were several great stories in that era, a few of them better than Moore's last story (Steranko's story in Superman # 400, parts of the Wolfman-Kane run in Action, Kane's standalone Superman Specials, etc).
Kurt Shaffenburger never gets any credit for inking the second part of this story. That guy had an extensive career drawing Superman related titles and was well known for his Lois Lane. When I was a kid he was the then current Superboy artist. He also did Mr and Mrs Superman(earth 2 stories) in Superman Family, some Super Friends comics and a whole bunch more I can't remember! Great story and you folks gave a great review. Thanks!
Thanks for acknowledging his art. Wasn't my favorite, but it was easily recognizable and not too hard on the eyes. The figures were more athletic than bulky and a little cartoonish. At least he didn't trace photos and he was reliable. And I'm glad somebody else knew George Perez didn't do the whole thing. Heard he is retiring and that sucks for us fans. Also, Curt Swan rules as a Superman artist. Take care.
That Bizarro part hahaha Sal's interpretation and reenactment of Bizarro killing himself with blue kryptonite, Hilarious!!!!! "EEEEEHHH!!!!!" hahaha, too funny !
when you were talking about Lois' baby and air I was just waiting for a reference to a can of air, the future being so polluted that babies have to incubate in glass cubes and adults get geeked off clean, canned air! In my own continuity, ben made the joke, whereever he was, he thought about that canned air
Yunno what's funny? Even if superman's villains knew his secret identity, what would you do? He's no less bulletproof in pajamas. When you think about it, the secret identity just makes the villains' jobs easier. C'mon, 9-5 is your open window. Why would you ruin that?
@@daraghokane4236 true, but if you kill his friends, then you risk Injustice happening. The Light in Young Justice calls it the nuclear option for just that reason
@@tatersalad76 I don't think injustice would happen I think more this comic or kingdom come would happen. Also how much would he flip out and be over protective of everyone if his villains knew his identity. Would be a pain. Also his villains plans are mostly beat superman it's not anything else really.
I was so sad I thought Superman didn’t have a happy ending but was like “well that’s Alan Moore for ya” and then with that twist.... dang Alan Moore dang
ah its not the weird graphic novel from the 90's i remember as a fever dream and can't always even find the title if i search for it (one of those else worlds books where superman kills the joker for killing batman and looks like a jacked up santa, very 90's) - Edit I think its Superman At Earths End...
Maybe I was thinking too much of Final Crisis and how that went, but I was half expecting Superman to have another freakout when everything started going wrong and everyone started dying. Like it was almost the response to how everything became so violent and Xtreme in comics in the 90s. "I'm pre-crisis Superman. Nobody dies in my stories. What the hell is happening?"
Instead of "Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow", this should be called "WTF happened to the man of tomorrow". Every nice, kinda' cool/cute moment is immediately countered by something horrifying and so out of left field. It's like, "Check out these beautiful butterflies...now watch them spontaneously combust into flame."
I finally read this comic after months of being tempted to, and I have to say it's a pretty good curtain call to pre-Crisis Superman. Almost all of his ensemble of allies and foes are there in a two-parter story with '60s artwork and most meet their end all while Superman decides to give up his role and powers after making a terrible mistake. Sure, some of the deaths feel like they were made for shock value, and Supergirl and Jimmy are wasted, but it's a solid tribute to an era that was about to go away under John Byrne.
Obligatory shout out to Rikdad's "Final Crisis is Grant Morrison's retelling/refutation of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? (because Grant hates Alan)" theory.
This is in the same DC Alan Moore collection as Superman: For the Man Who Has Everything. The rest of the collection is... weird, and I strongly recommend one read-through of the entire collection. ONE. Bought trade count since I started watching Back Issues: 65.
Awwwwwwww buddy! Gonna have to put down Apex Legends and watch this shiz right now!!! Keep up the amazing work guys I already know I’ll love the episode!
Salan Moore is a national treasure and should be celebrated by all
Funny anecdote I have about this story: I first read it when I was very young (like 10 or 11) and I never pieced together that Jordan was Superman, I assumed Lois had gotten pregnant before Superman died and this Jordan guy married her and adopted Jonathan.
A few ears later I read it again and felt really, really stupid, but ever since that day I stopped being so hard on the people of Metropolis for not realising that Clark kent is Superman.
To be fair, you were 10. None of the adults in Metropolis could piece it together, either
Sal gets one thing wrong though. According to Curt Swan, Alan Moor exacted uninterested as they had met during lunch and he was just eating(comic creators always discuss ideas over Lunch), when he head the words "Last Superman Story" Alan Moore's eyes widened, he stood up grabbed Swan by the throat and said if anyone else wrote it he would kill him" and so he got the job.
Really, it goes without saying... BUT, Sal does a BANGING Alan Moore impression and I will never get sick of it
AS A NATIVE OF NORTHAMPTON, I CAN CONFIRM THAT IS INDEED HOW WE ALL SOUND
*Superman (red, glowing eyes; blasting through the wall):* "You both had better have a _very_ good reason for sending me my dead friend the way you did."
*Prankster:* "...He's dead?!" _looks at Toyman_ "I thought you put holes in the box!"
*Toyman:* "I'm a TOY MAN! I don't usually have to make sure my toys can breathe when I ship them out, man!"
*Prankster:* "GODDAMMIT!"
Just Some Guy with a Mustache the prankster is so forgotten I wish he and toyman to be in a DC movie
@@srstriker6420 Toyman was used in two animated movies. One of them, he's a child genius working with the League (Batman/Superman: Public Enemies), and uses x-ray glasses on Power Girl.
And in Superman/Doomsday...he was a child killer the clone Superman kills by dropping him from like...100 feet in the air onto a cop car.
Timed Revolver but they haven’t got their DCEU treatment
@@srstriker6420 Who would even play them? And what version would we get of either?
Timed Revolver well how you seen the movie prisoners starring Hugh Jackman?
It's taken me several years to figure this out, but I finally see it. Sal's Alan Moore voice is just a British Eeyore from Winnie the pooh.
Which is interesting becasue the creator of Eeyore is British, so when you think about it, the circle of life is complete.
Its not mentioned in here but "Whatever happened to....." was a common tagline for backup stories in DC comics.....they used it to wrap up the stories of characters that weren't being published regularly as deference to fans of those characters and usually included them as backup stories for other comics. For example their 40s characters that weren't published regularly would have their dangling plotlines resolved and then "retire". So the title itself is a reference to the practice of retiring old characters, just for one theu knew wouldn't ever have a "final" issue
I saw them a lot in DC Comics Presents. I remember Whatever Happened to the Crimson Avenger, and a few others.
I wonder if they should bring that back as a regular backup story.
I want Sal to be doing his Alan Moore impression when Moore comes up behind him. It would be hilarious!
LMAO
I never picked-up the double of Metallo's threat: _"I have no pity! I have no heart!"_ He really doesn't have one, just a hunk of radioactive rock keeping him alive.
I’m so excited! I recently purchased “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow,” as well as its sister story “Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader” and fell in love with both! Also...you guys are just the best.
Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader is one of the few comics that has made me cry.
I don't know about the rest of the POPulation, but I'd say that these past few weeks have given us some of the best episodes of the show in a row.
Definitely
Agreed
according to the forwards Alan Moore actually got exited jumped out his chair and said he had to do this story. how wacky.
@@nivekleveb8872 i sort of remembered that too
Quite possibly my favorite Superman story. The fate of Krypto still chokes me up a bit.
Meanwhile people were dying allbover the place
@@deazy6453 Oh yeah, bodies were dropping left, right, and center. And his death is still the saddest to me.
For me it's Krypto and Lana, especially knowing what she does.
God damn, I’ve been watching this show since it’s inception, in the corner of a comic book store, and Salan Moore never gets old
The Baby Display actually resembles airers they would use for infants around the 1920s - the 'box' would keep the baby from falling to their doom while you hung them out of your 20th story window or took them for a walk. It's more retrofuturism.
God Alan Moore really does know how to write comic books. He has such a fundamental understanding of the characters and their mythos, too bad it’s all bullshit
“Better” as in actually have stakes in their story instead of deaths which can easily get reversed by magic , time travel , clones...etc ? ( Love comics it’s just prefer you know more mature storytelling )
@Objective Quest Tbf, Alan also wants superheroes to continue being silly, weird and fun. Despite writing Watchmen, you can see how much he loves superheroes and fun adventures from his Tom Strong comic.
Alan Moore thinks he ruined comics
@@bryanc7094
I blame all the speculators and copycats.
Definitely one of my favorites. It is up there with “For the Man Who Has Everything”, “Must There Be A Superman”, and two of the Silver Age imaginary stories (Superman Red & Blue, Death of Superman)
Now that the scurge of exam season is over I can finally watch an episode on release day. Praise Sebuz!
The one Superman story everyone’s been asking for to do back issues on finally
I’d say the race for best storytelling of comics comes down to back issues and comicsexplained’s format but I gotta say you guys take the cake. I love the semi informal style, stay gold lol
You guys consistently demonstrate why you're the best. Never stop
well ya see a little bit of Ben imprinted on the couch and then that sort imprinted on Tiffany....
Ben's Butt Couch imprint affected Tiffany and her emotions.
Oh damn! Lil' ol' Allan Moore fridged Pete Ross!
I held off watching this video as I have the same book, but hadn't read it yet. And after reading I enjoyed this episode just as much as the comic itself. I really love the extra info that Sal provides about why the book was written. Thanks, Sal. Additionally, the Superman and Swamp Thing story is really cool and I would recommend it too. Also, the collection has For The Man Who Has Everything. I really liked that story too and it's a must read for fans of the episode of Justice League Unlimited animated series.
Thank you guys so much for the years of amazing content. This was a great episode. Love to see when Alan Moore actually cared about comics and was in his prime.
I love this comic, it shows why Superman is the best!
Yes!! Please bring on more Superman stories.
This was the first comic I ever read, so Alan Moore was ripping my heart out since I was seven.
Man, this was a killer story, and a killer episode! I'm currently taking an English class in college where we discuss comic books, and we just so happen to be talking about death in comics tomorrow. Looks like I get another example to bring to the table. Thanks, guys!
One of the greatest storylines ever. Alan Moore was/is such a great writer. Love your series. Do the Kree/Skrull War next!
Way ahead of you! ruclips.net/video/BXvms4lznPQ/видео.html
Alan Moore is my favorite returning guest.
Mxyzptlk killed his first love. His best friend. And his dog.
Of course Superman went all John Wick on his 5th dimensional ass.
New back issues
Best part of the week, Honestly
Yay! This one was Amazing. Thank you guys. I love Alan Moore. I know Sal says he's a jaded hypocrite. But his Works are Spectacular. Long Live Comic PoPulation!
My my y'all are awesome
This sounds like something I want to do
It sounds like wat I did here at war lol mi ladies and mi lord y'all are doing wat I had it was gift of gab with that my friends I wish I could have a war have a good day this is awesome 😎❤️
Alan Moore Back Issues = Salan Moore Cameo
the greatest Superman story ever written
This has probably been the most reread Superman story I have, since for where I lived didn’t have a lot of comic shops and money wasn’t easily gained so I ended up with a small copy of this story. Always came back to read it, no matter what.
9:16 Hello, Superman. Hello.
I also have this collection and enjoyed it. It includes the Swamp Thing cross over and For the Man Who Has Everything! Great collection
Nice! I prefer "For the man that has everything", but Moore still did a solid job for this classic tale.
this comic is the greatest Superman story ever told
Moore admittedly did a great job with this story, and I would never knock it, but it's not the best late-pre-Crisis Superman story. There were several great stories in that era, a few of them better than Moore's last story (Steranko's story in Superman # 400, parts of the Wolfman-Kane run in Action, Kane's standalone Superman Specials, etc).
Kurt Shaffenburger never gets any credit for inking the second part of this story. That guy had an extensive career drawing Superman related titles and was well known for his Lois Lane. When I was a kid he was the then current Superboy artist. He also did Mr and Mrs Superman(earth 2 stories) in Superman Family, some Super Friends comics and a whole bunch more I can't remember! Great story and you folks gave a great review. Thanks!
Thanks for acknowledging his art. Wasn't my favorite, but it was easily recognizable and not too hard on the eyes. The figures were more athletic than bulky and a little cartoonish. At least he didn't trace photos and he was reliable. And I'm glad somebody else knew George Perez didn't do the whole thing. Heard he is retiring and that sucks for us fans. Also, Curt Swan rules as a Superman artist. Take care.
I needed this back issues, it's been a rough week
That Bizarro part hahaha Sal's interpretation and reenactment of Bizarro killing himself with blue kryptonite, Hilarious!!!!! "EEEEEHHH!!!!!" hahaha, too funny !
Best thing I could have come home too!!! Been waiting for this since I first read it!! Love you guys!!!
when you were talking about Lois' baby and air I was just waiting for a reference to a can of air, the future being so polluted that babies have to incubate in glass cubes and adults get geeked off clean, canned air! In my own continuity, ben made the joke, whereever he was, he thought about that canned air
With comic pop you can have so many laughs. love it!
Thank you so much for this, I've read this story but somehow missed the reveal. in my head it ends when he enters the room
cool i love superman stories, but i hope you will do a shazam one soon, cause shazam is my favorite dc hero.
Flash is better. Lol jk
The greatest Shazam comic ive ever read was called Marvelman/Miracleman.
Salan Moore: "TURN ON THE CAPSLOCK!"
Yunno what's funny? Even if superman's villains knew his secret identity, what would you do? He's no less bulletproof in pajamas. When you think about it, the secret identity just makes the villains' jobs easier. C'mon, 9-5 is your open window. Why would you ruin that?
Threaten his friends. Which happened in this book
@@daraghokane4236 true, but if you kill his friends, then you risk Injustice happening. The Light in Young Justice calls it the nuclear option for just that reason
@@tatersalad76 I don't think injustice would happen I think more this comic or kingdom come would happen. Also how much would he flip out and be over protective of everyone if his villains knew his identity. Would be a pain. Also his villains plans are mostly beat superman it's not anything else really.
Awesome, So happy you did this. Thank You
I like that Lois' husband looks like the Comedian
I love this Superman story
Yes! A new back issues just in time for me to do my algebra homework 😤🤧😔
I was so sad I thought Superman didn’t have a happy ending but was like “well that’s Alan Moore for ya” and then with that twist.... dang Alan Moore dang
Yes! This is one of those stories I’ve been waiting for!
If Alan Moore came out of retirement I’m pretty sure every comic book writer or editor would treat him like John wick
now he's retired
@@Dylankiwi1 Lol
ah its not the weird graphic novel from the 90's i remember as a fever dream and can't always even find the title if i search for it (one of those else worlds books where superman kills the joker for killing batman and looks like a jacked up santa, very 90's) - Edit I think its Superman At Earths End...
There is also the possibility that Superman only left the implication that he exposed himself to gold K. He could still have all his powers.
Maybe I was thinking too much of Final Crisis and how that went, but I was half expecting Superman to have another freakout when everything started going wrong and everyone started dying. Like it was almost the response to how everything became so violent and Xtreme in comics in the 90s. "I'm pre-crisis Superman. Nobody dies in my stories. What the hell is happening?"
This is a pretty good story. I didn't see the ending coming, but maybe I should have.
Instead of "Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow", this should be called "WTF happened to the man of tomorrow". Every nice, kinda' cool/cute moment is immediately countered by something horrifying and so out of left field. It's like, "Check out these beautiful butterflies...now watch them spontaneously combust into flame."
Hey ComicPop, when’s the next Letters Page? I sent you guys something REALLY special.
Druuuugs?
Pete Ross?
@@jrodriguez6 isn't that the same thing?
I used to whizz through this story on a mini booklet as a toddler not knowing what was actually happening lol this is really nostalgic
I finally read this comic after months of being tempted to, and I have to say it's a pretty good curtain call to pre-Crisis Superman. Almost all of his ensemble of allies and foes are there in a two-parter story with '60s artwork and most meet their end all while Superman decides to give up his role and powers after making a terrible mistake. Sure, some of the deaths feel like they were made for shock value, and Supergirl and Jimmy are wasted, but it's a solid tribute to an era that was about to go away under John Byrne.
Obligatory shout out to Rikdad's "Final Crisis is Grant Morrison's retelling/refutation of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? (because Grant hates Alan)" theory.
This was such a great story
Cool I always wondered if you guys will do this story!!!
Alan Moore might have serious issues with superhero books these days, including Superman, but he writes a great Superman (and Superman analog) story.
now i got that scene from The Thing in my head, my favorite horror film of all time
43:02 Gesundheit!
I've been looking forward to this.
OUR BACK ISSUES WEEKLY FIX HAS ARRIVED 5:27
Bizarro has laser breath and cryo vision actually 10:00
I never realized how funny this book is if you look at it a certain way.
Awesome episode as always guys!!! Very entertaining and had me cracking up so much😂
Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader has to be next
Brainiac took over Luther's brain so he could get his HBO Now password before the April premier of GoT.
Scat issues #1 as promised on the live stream. 27:56
This is in the same DC Alan Moore collection as Superman: For the Man Who Has Everything. The rest of the collection is... weird, and I strongly recommend one read-through of the entire collection. ONE.
Bought trade count since I started watching Back Issues: 65.
23:58 OMG Hahahahahaha
LOL, love your vids..!
Hilarious & entertaining..!
It's cool to see that Supermans fake name is Jordan and in the show his other son is Jordan.
Jordan is Clark with a new identity..never mind 😂
Not gonna lie. I need to get this book.
I thought of Wizard magazine cards too lol
What’s the name of the theme song of Back Issues?
Another excellent episode.
Omg freaking finally!!
I got this collection today lol
Wasn't the incubator addressed at the end when its revealed that he's a super baby?
Are you asking or telling?
I love this one ❤️👍🏻
Clark could've said it was a Superman shirt, or more practically kiss everyone to make them forget
Awwwwwwww buddy! Gonna have to put down Apex Legends and watch this shiz right now!!! Keep up the amazing work guys I already know I’ll love the episode!
Wow they killed two dogs in this Krypto and Jimmy!
Tiffany the Superman / Swamp Thing book is called The Jungle Line & it's fuckin great , will you do any Swamp Thing for Back Issues?
Hey. Do Superman: up up and away. It's fun.
Finally.