The Rise and Fall of Sly Cooper | Complete Series Retrospective
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Sly Cooper is a franchise I hold near and dear to my heart, having grown up with the original trilogy on the PlayStation 2 and having quite the backstory with the fourth installment, Thieves in Time, on PlayStation 3. Since I am on a content break right now, I figured I'd compile my second re-reviews of the Sly Trilogy and re-review of Thieves of Time into one video to hold people over.
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The conclusion of this video featured an instrumental version of the song "Seeds Don't Bleed" from Citrus Maxima! Check them out! linktr.ee/citrusmaxima
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Chapters:
00:00 Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
32:01 Sly 2: Band of Thieves
01:15:36 Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
01:45:47 Sly Cooper Thieves in Time
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It warms my heart to know there are others out there who grew up playing these games, and still love them to this day
Sly and jak and daxter were my first video games. I remember not having a memory card for the ps2 and would just play the beginning of them over and over. Once I was able to save and progress, it was like I had discovered another dimension.
@@wyattgeorge9696 I don’t have my ps2 anymore but the other day I found an old memory card. God what good times man. Getting nostalgic just thinking about it.
Episode 4 of sly 2 was scaring the shit out of me as a child(5yo maybe) because of the dark setting. The fact that, for the first time ever, Bentley was alone and had to fight his own fear to save his best friends got me thru that and I will never forget it. Thinking at this right now made me realize why i give so much importance to my friendships :')
one of the hardest levels of my childhood lol i always quit during that part and always restarted when i was young. smh lol
I try play it on emulator and its not work. 😢
Those wolves scared the shit outta me. Even the bulls in the first Paris level did lol. I think that's why in Sly 3 they took out the scary levels and guards cause they knew that happened 🤣.
If there were to be a 5th & final Sly Cooper game this is what I'd like the plot to be: Bently, Murray, Carmelita, & Dimitri get a scientist owl to help them build a time machine to go back in time to rescue Sly by using his DNA to track him. But once they find Sly they can only come forward a little at a time, & every time they stop they encounter another Cooper member that they have to help. They could even have Penelope return, but this time as the pirate Black Beard. By the 5th or 6th level, we finally have Sly meet his father, but since Sly knows his father has to die, he's conflicted on whether to try to save him or let him die again. Meanwhile, the owl scientist who helps rescue Sly gets injured through these adventures with the Cooper Gang & he builds a robot body for himself, which we later find out is Clockwork. At the end of the game, Sly & the rest of the gang make it back to the present, but Clockwork steals the time machine, goes back in time, & he gets revenge on what happened to him by making it his life's work to go after the Cooper family. Through this 5th & final game, the story comes full circle as Sly inadvertently created his family's mortal enemy in the form of a bootstrap paradox. The game ends with Sly & Carmelita finally getting together as a couple with Sly ending his life as a thief so he can have a family with her.
That... is actually a pretty compelling concept. 🤔🤯
You have my attention!
Learned a Miguel O'Hara trick eh? Touché, you can have your cake but can't eat it. Whatever happens in the story is a canon event, THAT is something I can hang my hat and swing my cane on!
You should pitch this to the developers ASAP!!! This franchise needs its proper closure 😭😭😭
Perfect
Murry was that dude in Sly 2, best intros and one liners..."fear not, I shall bend it like the truth"
Can't believe amazing Sly Content is still being released by the community. You are absolutely goated. Appreciate it!
Sly 4 feels like it was written by a showrunner who’s concepts for a Saturday morning Sky Cooper cartoon got turned into a game last minute.
The stiff controls weirded me out so much
😂😂b
That's kind of an accurate way to describe it
Sounds like Sonic Boom
@@bernardonunes2085 I wouldn't mind burying that cockroach Sonic
God I wish this trilogy would get the N-Sane Trilogy treatment
What does that even mean? They're ps2 games. It would just look the same as it did. Remakes are cancer.
@@OttselracingDo you even know what remake means? Lmao
@@Ottselracing way to generalize 💀
Even the PS2 games look fantastic today, they only need a remaster at most, not a remake
@@Ottselracingme when I lack critical thinking skills:
Sony has proven in the past two years that they can pretty easily bring back games if they want to, and not even have to put too much time and money into it for them to be good. Just look at how they've handled Ape Escape. Despite their big anniversary plans falling through, they've slowly been sprinkling a couple games from the series onto Playstation Network every few months.
All they had to do with those is add a simple emulation menu for screen filters, orientation, a Quicksave and Load feature, and a rewind feature. Then they sell them for $10 a pop.
They could totally do this for Sly Cooper.
Only God knows how much these games meant to me as a kid. I still have hope for a Sly 5 in the future.
I LOVE that I am not the only Sly stan. Love that we have a little community
Sly 2 will always be my favorite Sly Cooper game. I loved that game.
Just watching you play Sly 1 makes me want to dive back in and play it. Its crazy how good it feels to run around, nimbly landing on pipes, and whacking enemies with the cane. Seriously such an insanely smooth experience.
Sly reminds me of Lupin the Third, which had to have been an influence on the developers. Both are great series that deserve more recognition.
I honestly wish Sly Cooper had more of that type of anime shonen influence instead of the Saturday morning cartoon vibe that most of the games have. It would allow for more deeper story telling and characterization to be done instead of treading along certain story themes so as to not increase the age rating of the games.
My brother and i loved Sly so much we named one of our dogs Cooper. As big of a fan as I was I could never finish sly 4. Still haven't to this day and I'm almost 31yrs old. I'd love for a return though.
Did you play it
@@StoryTeller-John I had gotten as far as the medieval times. I'd definitely would like to revisit it just have other games at the moment
Whether 3rd time or 30th time I'll never get bored from your sly reviews
Already watched all these vids, and they're amazing. Excellent wrap up and overview of the series.
Its amazing how similar your experience during the wait for thieves in time is exactly the same as my experience.
I was 11-12-13 years old during the time between the announcement and release.
And exactly as you described I soaked up every interview bideo, gameplay, article and everything during the 2 year pre release.
I played and replayed the trilogy in preparation and also spent my free time thinking of how amazing Sly 4 would be.
I also was dissatisfied with the game after it came out and couldn’t tell why.
Now in my 20s I’m not mad anymore.
Sly 2 is my favorite also for the same reasons you stated.
Haven’t watched yet but sly has been getting so much shine lately. I’m really hoping some execs are seeing how much pull it’s been getting on RUclips, Twitter and TikTok lately. PRAYING for a reboot. Shoutout to J’s reviews. All hits no misses.
Also 300 likes to 2k views your community loves you big dog, hope you never stop releasing this grade A content for us
Sly Cooper was the shit back when i was a kid. I would sit down for hours at a time playing these games. If you didnt play Sly as a kid you definitely missed out in your childhood.
Sly 2 was my first one in the series too, I saw my friend having it and got a copy for christmas that year.
Best game I played to date.😊
Such missed opportunities in Sly 4. Certain ancestors could’ve been so cool to meet and LeParadox? What a letdown LeParadox was! Clockwerk is such a cool and mysterious villain. The Claw Gang was full of personality as were the Sly 3 baddies but that low down dirty skunk is so lame compared to all them! Sly said it best, he’s such an idiot who exposed his whole operation cause of his ego! That whole thing about him being from a rival clan of thieves really should’ve been expanded on instead of being left as a last minute reveal and the boss battle should’ve been so much more than a QTE! Like they could’ve had it so we tangle with his ancestors in the various time periods. Also did nobody on the staff question why Sly 4 is just one plot contrivance after another? Even Sly lampshades how unbelievable the gang’s luck has been!
Also they did Bentley dirty with Penelope.
this dude went through his own story arc just to review Sly 4. peak content
Dude, you are the best for putting this together. Sly also holds a very fond place in my heart. I dont like platformers, but i love Sly
Awesome video. One of my fav series from my childhood. Super nostalgic.
I wonder if any of the writers or developers, from the original sucker punch lineup that worked on the sly series, ever come online and watch any of these retrospectives on their past project/baby. I’m sure they would be moved and love to see his how good of a job they did by putting in the love they did and seeing how this series has been appreciated by so many of us that grew with it. Forever a sly fan and I want more
Thank you so much for this video. I can't even begin to put into words how much the Sly Cooper games meant to my childhood. I remember playing the first one over and over and being SO excited for 2 and then 3. I too have a special relationship with the first 2 games. I did get 3 when it came out but it didn't feel the same and took me awhile to really love it like the other 2. I got a PS3 just for Sly 4 and then didn't actually finish it for like 6 years because it felt too different. It's ok, but definitely has a different feeling to it. Just didn't feel as special. But the original trilogy just holds a huge place in my heart. They were games me and my mom would play together, she even beat all the games on her own and still goes back to them sometimes. Last time was back in 2020. Not sure what happened to my original copy of 1 but I still have my original 2, 3, 4 and Collection games. Just everything about the games scream charm. The characters, the style, the music, the voice acting. Nothing compares. I hope I live long enough to see a proper Sly 5 someday.
The message of Sly 3 falling on deaf ears can be said for so many things. I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie, most of the time when things get drudged back up for remakes/reboots/sequels from different companies it rarely turns out as good. The comments sucker punch gets are disgusting about telling them they need to make 5 whenever they talk about sly or when they did the anniversary merch. Seems like Sly 3 needs to be played and understood by more people and actually listen to the lesson it teaches. Learn to love and let go, it can always be experienced again. 4 felt like it was made for an even younger audience than the trilogy and lost its charm, ie the story and character arcs being non-existent from past games even. Plus all the character designs are a downgrade alongside the incessant speech lines. Not to mention the ending sequence where the characters are chirping back and forth but there is zero animation for it during the fight.
Played sly Cooper at my parents friend house on the ps2 in the basement when we’d go over… I was soooo hooked on this game 😅
So many memories in sly 1 and 2, need a remaster. Love your videos on the series
Dude all I want is a Crash type remake of the original trilogy. I agree, it doesn't need a sequel.
Thank you for this great video on our favorite series.
Fuck I’m old. When he’s said “I was only two when the 1st came out” I died 😂😂
I will forever be heartbroken by what happened to this franchise.. I’m so sad the movie got cancelled I was so excited when I was younger :(
Great work bro!
Sly 4 was the biggest joke.. i felt like i was playing in one of my oldest fanfictions.
The focus wasn't the ancestors, you barely get to know them.
The focus is on the drama between Sly and Carmelita..
Thanks goodness, there's no a 5th game made by Sanzaru, but we never had a movie, as the Ratchet & Clank movie failed..
even MORE from the European sidem
Happy New Year man!
Boy, oh-boy, here we go again!
Lemme just get my popcorn real quick
i just started replaying sly 2 :O
DAMN
This is amazing. I love ur video
Having been more into ratchet & clank instead of sly and Jak. The only sly game I've played was slide 4 when I got it on my Vita. I definitely need to go back and replay the entire series in one sitting.
I don't hate Sly 4. But I feel it wouldn't get a big backlash if it didn't end on a cliffhanger
I heard Sanzaru planned on releasing DLC where we get to explore Ancient Egypt, but Sony wouldn't let them do it. I even heard the script was pretty much done.
@@SaiyanGamer95 So they just cut that part out and called it a day?
@@SlyCooper1920 I mean, Sony wouldn't let them work on it, so yeah. Sanzaru really wanted to release the DLC, thougy.
@@SlyCooper1920Sanzaru Games president was the one that cut the ending due to the size restriction of the PlayStation Vita sadly did not have time to add it to the PlayStation 3 within the short time frame given to be ported, as such it was turned into dlc that never made it due to lack of sales
No idea why said president did not scale back levels or removed some them instead of cutting the actual ending
Please make a retrospective on the cartoon The Batman and The Spectacular Spider-Man!
While I have issues with Sly 4 (being the game, I replayed maybe 3 times where I've replayed the trilogy countless times. Hell, I'm replaying Sly 1 and 2 right now.)
I can say that Sly 4 feels very hollow compared to Sly 3 all I can think seeing cutscenes of Sly 4 compared to Sly 3 is
"You wouldn't do that. You'd do this."
This game series is my all time favorite and I have nothing but good memories with it.
Man, I miss these games. Sony, just remaster them, please!
They won't sell well
@MalikATL Sadly... you are correct, but one can dream
@chandllerburse737No one will care
@chandllerburse737No one will care
@chandllerburse737Everyone will not care
I remember being pissed when sly 4 came out. The game itself was fine (not great or even good, just fine), but all those levels with the motion controller that no one cared about (the controller not the levels). I had bought a second hand ps3 and it didn't come with a controller that had that feature as almost all 3rd party controllers appeared to think that was useless. Took six months and an extra $40+ after buying the game brand new just to play the darn thing. 😢
Love the passion and enthusiasm you have for these games! The way you feel about this game is how I feel about the Jak and Daxter series (not frontiers lol). Just bought a ps5 about 4 months ago and running through retro/exclusive titles. Just played the jak trilogy. Moving on to the sly trilogy. Figured I'd watch a video like this to hype myself up. Thank you for your content! 🙏🤙
Criminally underrated view count. Great job
Sly Cooper was a really cool game even though i haven't played it but it looks so good
Always Hazbin
Great video brotha
Excellent video.
This is my childhood game too. Sad that they don’t do games like these. 😢
Sly was one of those games my friends and all that played bossman
I wrote up a plot for a Sly 5 game.
So, my sly 5 idea involves a weakened Sly being trapped in the past, and being found by an old enemy: Clockwerk, who initially mistakes him for an ancestor and attacks, him, injuring him greatly, even mauling him. Upon defeating him, though, Clockwerk realizes that *this* Cooper is from the future--and furthermore, based on some of Sly's comments he let slip up at the beginning--namely, shock that Clockwerk was alive, and rage at seeing the cyborg Owl, Clockwerk figures that something must have happened to him in the future. Deciding to capture him, and using a device he's created, he manages to rip Sly's memories from him and gets the highlights of his life, including the defeat of Clockwerk. Rather than be enraged and kill him out of frustration, Clockwerk decides he must find a way to become immortal, beyond the cybernetic replacements of his body he's already done. Consulting his research, he smiles upon finding mentions of a crystal that could grant one unending life--only catch is, it's guarded deep in the depths of Atlantis, the shining city. Only catch is, he's too big and not powerful enough at the current moment to get it. Luckily for him, he has a Cooper from the future, with skills learned from ancestors that aren't even born yet--and Clockwerk offers the captured Sly Cooper a deal--He'll share a portion of the power of immortality with Sly, and build him a machine to send him home, but Sly has to get the crystal for him first. And just to make sure Sly plays along, Clockwerk makes some...cybernetic modifications to Sly to patch sly up in order to let him move again, but Clockwerk has the control switch for them, and if Sly tries to backstab him, Clockwerk will turn off the cybernetics, leaving Sly crippled and helpless. Left with no other choice, Sly agrees, but also noticed something when Clockwerk was flipping through his memories--a newspaper from the day when Thieves in Time started, mentioning a clue on a tablet found in Egypt leading to Atlantis.
While going through a hastily constructed training course set up by Clockwerk for him to get used to his cybernetics, thinking quickly, Sly finds a blank tablet and etches out a rough map on it and inscribes the word "Atlantis" on it, along with a small Cooper symbol and Clockwerk's wings disguised as hieroglyphics, and then buries it, hoping that it was the clue that was mentioned, before Clockwerk begins to take them to Atlantis after the training is concluded.
Flashing back to the Present Day, Bentley is going through news and comes across an article with a picture of the tablet, and is gobsmacked when he cues in on the symbol. Calling up the gang and Carmelita, they decide to steal the tablet and follow it to Atlantis, surmising that Sly is sending them a message from the past.
The rest of the game follows two parallel plots: Sly in the past being ordered around by Clockwerk, but leaving clues and hidden items for his future crew, while in the present day his Crew has to manage without Sly as their Thief in order to solve the clues he's leaving behind throughout the exapansive city of Atlantis, and try and piece together what's happening, and maybe even save him.
At the climax of the game, Sly manages to get the crystal, but his crew has managed to lock on to where he is. As removing the crystal causes the city to begin to sink, Sly has to escape to the top of the city, where he faces off against Clockwerk. Clockwerk disables Sly's cybernetics, but by this point Sly has managed to heal a good bit, and is able to try and fight him. When Bentley's portal opens up, Sly attempts to escape with the Crystal, but Clockwerk intercepts him. Unwilling to let Clockwerk have it, Sly attempts to destroy it, and as they grapple over it, it shatters. The shock of losing his chance at Immortality gives Sly the opportunity to escape, and Clockwerk is left seething--before noticing that there are two shards left behind. In the post credits he's shown designing the Hate Chip*s*
This leads into a potential DLC where Penelope finds the second hate chip in a buried lab of Clockwerk's and ends up using it as part of a means to create a mechanical army...aaaaand brings Clockwerk back ultron-style when she does so, with a shot at a redemption arc when all of her machinations ends up with her losing her hands to the evil owl.
This came out in the perfect time
I wish sucker punch would continue this series again, they did so well with ghost of tsushima, they could totally redeem the series.
I love sly cooper it’s a great game and Like you said, needs dialogue for the conclusion.
I even wrote down how sly 5 and sly 6 could be made and be fun to wrap up the characters but you know they will still do what they do best but more evolved with Carmelita
The only things I hope are put in both the games are the clue bottles and treasures, new characters and villains but also returning characters and villains, Penelope will return and redeem herself and at least be friends and an ally to the cooper gang, and the playable characters movements and controls are just like in sly 2 and 3
Thank you! I couldnt stand you back in the day. My friends showed me your sonic and sly cooper vids and i thought you were a straight troll. Glad you grew up. Many youtubers are kind of looking at some of their old stuff and im glad they're finally seeing how cringe that era was.
I liked Thieves in Time, but hated the cliffhanger.
Ok Sucker punch, you got your 10/10 nitty gritty main stream game with Tsushima. Now give us, your og fans and supporters, a conclusion to your original franchise. Give us the happy ending we want for Sly and the gang.
That's what sly 3 is!
Greatest game ever! Thanks so much.
One of fav games of all fucking time.
I just flipped this Sly collection for 10x, it can’t be that bad! I vaguely remember this game, I think I only played the first one.
I subbed finally. You got me
I really hope we get sly 5, a trilogy remake or at least a PC port.
You ain’t getting any of those. You can’t even name the studio to do it, which is why I don’t take you seriously.
Loved the Sly cooper series.
and just gonna say it, "its for kids" is NOT a good defence for writing, ive seen plenty of games, shows and so on that are made for kids and can still have good and even smart writing
The implication of that statement when people say it is that childrens minds should absorb complete nonsense and grow up as rtrds or psychos. Only people that hate kids or are complete airheads say things like that.
@@Ottselracing sounds like we are on a similar page here. yeah, there is plenty of things made for kids that can be well written, its about as stupid a statement as the "think of the children" arguemnt when an adult is made uncomfortable and you normally see both of these more in the west then in eastern countries, mainly north america and western europe
Sly reminds me of Lupin the 3rd.
I had the exact same thought!
The roller coaster segments of Rocket: Robot on Wheels made me and my big brother feel sick to our stomachs.
A Remake of the original trilogy by Sucker Punch would be awesome
Miss sly so bad 🥺
Remember when Sucker Punch said they would be interested in making another Sly Cooper on PS5 then just changed their minds and lost interest? Good times.
So disappointed, I swear. We lost the Sly movie, too! Though that one may have been for the best seeing how Rachet's movie turned out.
Remember when Suckerpunch never said that at all and you just made that up. Good times
@@mrpopo5097 Or maybe an article lied to me. Ever think about that?
@mrpopo5097 who pissed in your cheerios?
You've grown so much as a creator
Instead of a sequel to Thieves in Time, I’d first do a remastered trilogy like Crash & Spyro, then reboot the series, start fresh with a new story & new arcs for the characters to go through, I’d be all for a reboot as long as it’s good
You type all this yet couldn’t even put a studio to it. Which is why I don’t take your comment seriously.
@@mrpopo5097dude let naughty dog do it fudge it
Of course
It's not a New Year with J if he doesn't start with the Ol Thievius Raccoonus
I WANT TO PLAY SLY 5!
Not happening
@@TerrorOfTalos How many goats do we have to sacrifice to make this dream a reality?
And now currently sly is stuck in Egypt I sure hope Sony lets bluepoint make sly cooper 5
Bluepoint Games is the worst choice possible to create Sly V seeing as they are solely a remake / remastered studio
Why would bluepoint be interested in a game like sly 😂
@@mrpopo5097 Considering Bluepoint's pedigree is in remaking / remastering older titles I say they have reason to revive an older franchise such as Sly
I'm so disappointed that SuckerPunch/Sanzaru Games didn't take the opportunity to name one ancestor "D.B. Cooper"
Y'know
Like the THIEF
C'mon
GREASY SWEET!
Hey could you share what that comic or strategy guide was for sly 2? It looked so cool and I'd love to be able to find the whole thing online
Edit: found out it was the original strategy guide NOT the ps3 strategy guide collection. Its crazy how the artistry is lost in the ps3 strategy guide.
Very happy i found a copy of the original strategy guide :)
Wooow I am pleasantly surprised
At least Sly Cooper got 4 mainline games, Banjo Kazooie only got the first 2, Nuts and Bolts and spinoffs on GameBoy Advance
dang, I've been playing sly 1-3 since they all first came out, theyve always been v special to me, i thought i knew everything abt the games, but i have no clue u could throw rajan, nor did i ever really pay much attention to the saferoom bug audios other than dimitris, i dont think anyone else has ever mentioned that stuff
Loved sly 2 forever a favorite
Still some of my favorites games
Bane-“ I was molded by the darkness”
Jsreview- I was molded by sly cooper
1:37:34 general tsao is one of the most entertaining & best villians. I always must smirk when he says that line. And even when he talks much sh-, he DELIVERS behind all that sh talk with combat Experience & dark arts + he was cunning. Not only that, he sticked to his promise and gave back the laptop when he lost the fight (a CERTAIN sense of honor, what sticks to his Character) & he gets a + Point because he was able to find the cooper gangs hideout and stole the Laptop in the first place, what was a total off-guard for the cooper gang.
Easily in TOP 3 Sly Villians with Clcokwerk & Dr. M, in my humble Opinion.
I started playing sly cooper for the first time back in summer of 2022, im 21 now, but i felt the nostalgia from the game ^^
Me and two other guys used to pretend to be the gang during elementary school recess. Noah, Nathan, and Nick!
Honestly, I feel like you should make videos about the whole game mission by mission and explain everything narrative. Id watch it.
wonder when he’ll mention sly cooper in this one
I love these games, especially sly 3 cus it was my first one. Sly 2 is great too
i enjoyed playing sly 3 the most as a kid but i appreciate sly 2 the most as an adult
Common misconception getting a PS2 Greatest Hits disc does not indicate good sales. Greatest hits was determined by copies PRINTED.
What I like about Bently is he's NOT a genius just has a very high near genius IQ and that's why he's always getting outsmarted by the actual criminal geniuses like Penelope
Demi Darko by far had the best review of Sly I've seen on the internet but he tends to skip over details so I'm interested in what a more in-depth review looks like.
1:32:49 I didn't know Bentley could be so SAVAGE
I got my steam deck a couple months ago and ive been playing all the sly cooper games except thieves in time but, the ps2 emulator on the steam deck is beautiful
Already seen the old and new reviews but yeah great trilogy middling fourth game that feels unnecessary with no clear vision behind it etc. Also to the people that *still* for some reason have hope in a sequel to thieves in time (some sort of remake or remaster would need to happen first anyway) consider this.
It's now been 11 years since the last entry that underperformed in sales and had mixed reception from fans, sanzaru being exclusively a VR studio for Facebook since 2020, sucker punch clearly only working on a sequel to ghost of tsushima even confirming nobody is developing another sly or infamous back in 2022 (though that clearly wasn't enough to sink in for some people) and even the honestly delusional thought of Insomniac even considering developing a Sly game for some reason is *100%* out the window since it's mostly Marvel projects for them until the 2030s. I honestly don't want to be negative about the situation but at some point you just have to be realistic about it; that time is now.
Well that doesn't mean others can try, what if Toys For Bob remastered the trilogy as they did with Crash and Spyro?
@@ralsei3157 "what if this Activision studio that's also now owned by Microsoft remasters a Sony IP" lol
@TerrorOfTalos all I'm saying is the series is not gonna die, I think your reasoning is much too hopeless sounding, everyone thought Crash was dead but he finally got a proper 4th game after 2 decades, besides Sucker Punch owes their success to this IP, they'll never forget their roots, so we should always have hope that one day he'll make a return, either a remaster, rebooted game, or film and television show, may not be this year, or 5 years, or this decade, but hey man it could happen one day.
@@ralsei3157 Okay but you obviously didn't read where I specifically said in my initial comment that it was going towards people who still want sequel to thieves in time, though it's not like anything outside of that has much of a high chance either. Also the momentum of crash was entirely due to N.sane (which Sony was crucial to convincing Activision to greenlight btw) as Activision needed to be proven crash could still make money; which is why they greenlit another game in the same year.
You comparing crash's circumstance to sly however is quite laughable, when comparing sales alone the highest selling sly game is around 2 million while the highest selling crash game is over 7. Even a remake of the sly trilogy on both PS5 and PC would be lucky to hit 2 million sales lifetime at $40 and that's not really worth it to Sony. As for your "it'll happen one day" mindset; look people already think another RaC game in 2029 is baffling (it's not when one puts some actual thought into it but I digress) so there's only much time people can wait before they lose interest but all you're saying is hope while I'm bringing up facts and logic.
You *could* maybe convince me if I was still under the age of 18; but I'm not and actively paying attention to where the games industry is headed as a whole. If you think sucker punch is going to suddenly hop on sly cooper in 10 years when they don't have enough devs to handle multiple big projects as it is while GoT is a much bigger success than any Sly Cooper related media combined is coping to the nth degree and that's fine, just don't try and use "keep hoping" in slightly different ways as an actual point because it doesn't really prove anything.
@TerrorOfTalos yeah i obviously seemed to touch sensitive nerve, layed out an essay just for me and for what? Your facts and logic are true yes, but the "truth" is the future isn't written, and hey, if not officially, we can always count on maybe a fangame someday, yes it underselled, yes they gave the job of the 4th game to the wrong people and yes Crash and Spyro are a million times more recognizable than Sly, what do I know.... hope that pessimism of yours doesn't rub off onto the rest of the fanbase old chap, because in our age of relying on old properties to generate buzz and revenue, I can't say it won't happen with something as classic as Sly. I just think he's too much on the decent scale of old 2000's properties to be forgotten about, an NFT, (God knows Sony would try something like that) references, those awesome fancomics, he'll live on, we may never see him again in playable form sure, but he'll live on. If nothing else Honor Among Thieves ended on a fine note, and I guess that's good enough for alot of people.
I don't know what you mean, sucker punch ended the sly saga with sly 3 with a very good ending. The character arcs are finished. I had a good time with it, and still enjoying watching/playing the sly trillogy.
Edit: MAYBE they left the door open for other studios, but only for sony's marketing reasons. We know what happends, when other writers/studios work on Allready finished storylines OR just new writers that continue stories, but lack the understanding & respect of inevented systems of stories: Sly 4, Everything at borderlands 3, Disney star wars, RWBY, boruto, DB super, middleearth (like rings of power) etc.
I can't wait to cook some killer chilly to this