Zhiyun Crane-M3 with Sony a7IV | The most VERSATILE gimbal EVER!!
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- The most versatile gimbal ever. Review of Zhiyun Crane-M3 with Sony a7IV. Specs and samples shot with this combo.
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Great video! thank you for the clear and straight to the point info! nice shots btw!
thank you so much!!
it's a very good review, clear explanation and all aspects considered, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great video, best one I've seen covering the A7IV + Crane M3 by far. I also really enjoyed the shots you took, a lot of other videos did not show enough footage with it. Also perfect breakdown for the Sony a6600 vs Phone vs full frame.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for showing and proving that FF cameras with lenses that are not too heavy work with the Crane M3. I am waiting for my Nikon Z5 and small lenses to come in, then I may get the M3 which is on its compatible list. Great review!
My pleasure!
Nice review pav
Thanks!
That's VERY clever!
Thanks Matt!
Cheers Pav, another great review, most people are concerned with balancing, its a tricky process, does the new quick mount plate on this gimbal make it any easier ?
Thanks Lee!
This gimbal is easier to balanced than most once you know how. It is a little bit different procedure and less fine adjustments. The new plate is ok with smaller cameras - the tightening nut is a little bit close to the corner of a7III/IV
I want buy this gimbal❤ in the future🎉.
it is good if you have a small camera and small lenses
im not sure think ill stick with the ronin sc or sc2.
I bought one. Then decided to buy 2nd one For my other camera. This gimbal is amazing
nice!!
Could you tell me if crane m3 would work with a7 iv kit lenses? 28-70mm thanks
@@madebymarcin hell no
Hi Pav, im currently using the smaller A6600 but might upgrade to A7iv sometime in the near future. Will this Crane M3 support the lighter APSC (A6600) well, or will it be flimsy?
it will, it does but only with smaller lenses.
Few samples in my video (as labelled) were shot on a6600 and Viltrox 24mm f1.8
will it work with sonya7iv camera and Sigma 24-70 mm zoom lens perfectly
plz let me know
no it won't.
This will only work with small lenses. Sigma is too long, too big and too heavy to balance the camera with it on on this gimbal
Hello mate, really like your accent! Remind me of sir davos in Game of Throne! I'm wondering if you can make a video on how to colour grade your video? The video looks amazing. I've started using A7 IV to shoot 422 10 bit, but struggling to grade the video to look good.
Thanks! My accent is Ponglish (I was born in Poland but lived for the last 27 years in UK)
I will make a video about colour grading video and photos soon.
All my talk to the camera is filmed with a7IV in 422 10bit to Atomos Ninja V - I use this preset to convert it to 'normal'
gamut.io/product/sony-conversion-luts/
(they should be paying me for recommending it haha)
@@PavSZ thanks for the recommendation! I’ll check how to use this preset as I’m very new to shooting videos, and looking forward to your grading video!
Help me Pav pleaseee!
I have crane 2s and its not communicating with my Sony a7 IV. REC button in video mode is not working! I can’t get it to start recording video. What settings do you use?
a7IV is too new - you have to wait for a firmware update from Zhiyun
Nice review, as always!
It's me or the focus on sample aren't locked on eye's model? What focus settings have you used?
it's you - all eye tracked with a7IV
@@PavSZ Just checked on my 4k monitor and I can clearly see a lot of out of focus eye in most sample kit. A bug of A7iv? A bug of A7iv mounted on Crane-M3?
I have a ZV-E10 with a cage and large Tamron wide lens, but man, the motors don't seem to hold up and took SO long to balance. I'm planning on returning the $450 combo back (I got for $319!) which I hate to do as I wanted to like this gimbal too! I got the RS3 and had no issues immediately out of the box. Maybe just not for me?!
it's not meant for heavy or large loads
I have been using Dji om5 together with my iPhone 13 pro max for shoots. I find it hard to get stabilised shots, wondering if upgrading to m3 would give me better stabilisation? Any advise around here?
I find it always harder to get perfectly smooth shots with the small gimbals and phones - usually because they are too light. I need to get my ninja walk better every time and keeping hands steadier to make them work
Hi sir! can you please share your experiences with gimbal motor setting to get smooth shot. Thank you
I never fiddle with those settings unless I have to. I've used this gimbal with a7IV and Sigma 35mm f2 straight out of the box without fine tuning the motors
My friend great video. Do you think this crane 3 would work with the a7iv and sony 24mm 1.4 gm? Im so ready to buy it, im just not sure if it would work with my setup.
thanks!
It might not. 24mm might be too big and too heavy for this set up
Never use the crane m3 without a safety wrist strap in case you drop it with the camera attached! You can attach a tether strap via one of the 2 quarter-inch screw ports either on the side or on the bottom of the gimbal. The gimbal is small and awkward for even apsc cameras compared to the larger gimbals. I own the crane m3 as of 2 weeks ago. It balances after a fair amount of work with my sony apsc very small a6600 and sigma 30mm combo. I'm hoping that the gimbal will be strong enough over time, but am not sure. I can't imagine trying to use this gimbal as a workhorse for full frame cameras. Instead, for full frame, and even APSC, if the size and weight are ok with you, consider the weebill 2. Since I travel internationally size was everything and this gimbal fits nicely in a large travel backpack along with the rest of my gear. Make sure to order the quick release plate specific to your camera.
I've attached a mini tripod-handle on the 1/4-20 to do 2-handed operation on extended shoots. This little thing is just awesome.
Use longer tripod
It looks like a perfect gimbal for my S5 + Voigtlander 40mm F2! Thanks for the video Pav!
By the way...I'm shocked by the skin blemish of the Sony A7IV, it looks terrible! Did you film it in S-Log 3 10 bits?
It would work very well with S5 and 40mm.
Yes, it was filmed in slog3 10bit - I don't know what you are referring to. Is it just my colour grade?
@@PavSZ No, it's not referred to your colour grading... I see a lot of things going on in the shades, it looks like bad noise denoised by the camera 🤔
I am very impressed with the colours, watching it on an very good oled tablet.
@@PavSZ Hi Pav. Great review as usual. Does the Crane M3 really work "very well" with the Lumix S5? It isn't listed on the compatibility info provided by Zhiyun. Which quick release-plate adapter would you use and which cable to connect with the Crane M3?
Omg,unusula -farewell! mr,👏
say what?
*Could you please do a quick video showing the streaming quality of the A7IV via USB-c?* Can you show us the 1080 60p quality when just using USBc to USBc no capture card? I’m looking at buying the A7IV tomorrow, but no one has shown this streaming quality. Thanks
You only get 1080p 30fps as far as I know with it. I have been using it as a webcam since I got it and it works really well. Good picture!
I am not planning making video about it. Sorry
@@PavSZ All good. Thanks. So that’s just via USB c cable correct? No capture card? As long as the quality is smooth and the video is not choppy that’s what’s I care aboit
@@zippo_muk9254 yes, no capture card and via USB-C cable. You need a fast cable and it works well
Hi Pav, I was really considering this gimbal strongly, but while it would work for my A7 IV, it is only partially compatible with the ZV-E10 for now, and I want and need full compatibility with both cameras in a gimbal. I don't particularly like DJI products, but I might be forced unless Zhiyun says they will be providing full ZV-E10 compatility soon. Disappointed. I DO have gimbals for my phones already (DJI and Hohem), as well as a Feiyutech AK2000 with focus ring that is still new and has never been used. (I bought it when I was getting ready to use with my Canon DSLR's, but went to all Sony before I ever put it together! (Sellling soon on eBay). I sent an email to Zhiyun requesting info on when they may work out the ZV-E10, but as yet, no response. Cheers!
there might be a firmware update coming soon, might not. They will never tell you.
I never connect cameras to the gimbals - I press record button on the camera, use variable ND filters for controlling the brightness and rely on AF for auto focusing.
@@PavSZ Dzięki, Pav!
Hey Pav, great video thanks for sharing your experience with the gimbal!
I am thinking of also getting the Sony a7iv and a gimbal for it as well so thanks for the info! I am also curious because you mentioned that you use to shoot everything with a A7iii and now you use the a7iv, I am just wondering how do you compare the 1080 fotage I know everyone shoots in 4k bcs the camera is capable but I shot real estate Videos/photos and I need to shoot at 60frames to slow it down but I need a very wide-angle view ( not the crop on 4k 60f) because is real estate properties so I was wondering if the 1080 60frames looks very good too and if it does look any better than the a7iii ?
Thanks in advance and great video again!
S-log3 is much better on a7IV. I shoot everything 60p in 1080p, I can't see the point in shooting everything in 4k. There is also a hack on how to record 4k6op with a7IV without the crop, I'm making a video about it next week 😉
@@PavSZ awesome thanks for your response and looking forward to watch that video 👍
The 1080p is great on a7iv
@@PavSZ did you upload the video ?
@@liljaeger2k I didn't make in the end as Gerald Undone has beat me to it
hello I would like a service please the sony A7IV comunique with the crane M3 in USB?
thank you
not yet
Wonderful video! Thank you. Mine just arrived recently. For some reason I can't get the joystick to work (using it with canon m50). Have you come across any issues like this before? Thanks again for the review! Blessings.
I have never used it with Canon. Try contacting Zhiyun about it. They are usually very good replying
Make sure that you have adjust the camera balance when gimbal off and unlock all the axis locks, if yes but still can't work, you may contact Zhiyun to get further help.
Great video 👏 I have the crane 3m for my ZV1 and my a6500 👌 for my fx6 I have the crane 3s 😂
Nice 👍
I use Crane 3s for all my bigger cameras as well
How are you connecting it to the camera. Sony a7iv for me? Cable or wifi?
I don't right now - I'd connect it with the cable when they update the firmware to make it work with a7IV
I presume on the 50p shots with the A74 and Sigma 35mm you were shooting 1080p
it was all 60p and in 1080p
@@PavSZ interesting - Im seeing more people in the UK shooting 60p rather than the recommended 50p.
Hi Pav - Thx for the video! The M3 looks perfect for my needs. Noticed in Zhiyun's lit that it can accommodate the A7Riv with a number of "smaller" lenses. They don't mention the FE 1.4/35 GM specifically, but was wondering if you know if it will work as intended with that combination?
Yes, this gimbal can take all a7 cameras but only with smaller and lighter lenses. I have never used 35mm GM but I suspect it might be too heavy for it
@Venkatesh Sakthivel 35mm gm will certainly be too big and heavy for it
Dose it fit with lumix s5 with no issues? Especially with lumix 35mm,85mm… thanks a lot for the video Pav 👌🏻
I'll reply to your comment again, once I get round to trying it on
@@PavSZ We are waiting :)
Funny how all the reviews on this gimbal all use Sony. FYI, this gimbal supports Lumix G series with a number of lenses. Love it! Cheers!
Thanks for the info!
I also use it with Lumix S5 and Nikon Z6
Would this work with a Sony a7S III with Tamron 17-28mm f/2.8?
simple answer - no
What is the payload on this I didn't see it on there website?
they don't say what it is - it will only take a small camera or a full frame camera with a small lens. There is no even point of thinking of heavy pay loads
Question .Such setup allow us to swap battrries and sd card or again needed to remove camera from gimbal?
depends which camera - with a7IV/III you have to take it off
@@PavSZ zv 1 and 10 too ?
@@allstarbury don't know - I never used them
Do you think it'd work with Tamron 28-200mm?
unfortunately not - 28-200 is too long and too heavy for this gimbal
Could you tell me if crane m3 would work with a7 iv kit lenses? 28-70mm thanks
probably not - it's too long lens for this combo
@@PavSZ Thanks, Got this gimbal today and...it works :) With some small limitations of course. I will try to make some short video about it.
How have you found the combo since you’ve had it?
@@saltiburzio3788 I use it now and then but with a6600 - apart from Sigma 35mm f2 I don't have any small and light lenses for a full frame a7IV
Thank you so much for this great video. Can I use it wit Sony A7III ???
Yes you can but only with small lenses
@@PavSZ Thanks a lot. Keep up good work 😀
Sir, can i use it with my a7iii and 85mm lens?
@@malwatta100 probably not - 85mm is too long and too heavy for it
Will it work with A7iv + Sony 20mm F1.8 (370gm weight) ?
Sony 20mm might be just too long for this set up - check Zhiyun website for the lens/camera compatibility list
Can this handle a sony a7iv + sony 35mm f1.4 gm lens?
Sony 35mm GM will be too big and too heavy for it ☹
In another video the guy said the gimbal hit the release button and the camera fell off. Has anyone had that problem?
I never had any issue with it. Common sense can prevent silly accidents like that
@@PavSZ lol so I’ll keep the Gimbal then. :)
Great video, I ordered A7iv and I'm on the market for compact gimbal who is suitable with this camera + Tamron 17-28, and as far as I can understand this lens probability can't be balance. In theory is not that match heavy than the sigma (325g vs 420g) but it's longer than sigma.
I do have Tamron 17-28 but didn't even attempt to balance the camera on it with this lens. It is too long.
Saying that the motors will probably make it work even if it is not balanced anyway.
@@PavSZ Can you please try this combo and tell me the result. Probably will be front heavy, but I'm curious :)
Video by pascal has him using a7siii + 17-28. So it works.
Vinse81 have you received your sony
@@simonpostle3327 yes, I think aroun 3-4 weeks ago
What is the payload on this?
they don't say what it is - it will only take a small camera or a full frame camera with a small lens. There is no even point of thinking of heavy pay loads
I feel that for 18-300 mm lens of Tamron , The DJI RONIN SC is better .
yes!
THE BIG RPOBLEM is: normally you go on a trip or vaction and you want small, handy, Gimbal with you: But THE DISADVANTAGE / The DRAWBACK of the CRANE M3 is: The battery is integrated. At the airport you can not take it in the CARRY ON HANDBAG, so it will cost you each time for each trip env. $40-50 more because you have to check it in as a suitcase. BUMMER !!!!
You got it wrong - you HAVE to take it with you in the carry on - all the stuff with batteries needs to be on carry on. This gimbal would fit easily in my camera bag pack together with camera, lenses and the drone
@@PavSZ I hope you´re rigth, 5 years ago, the control didnt let me passe, because my cordless screwdriver with battery included, was considered as baggage, becaus the battery couldnt take apart!
Getting this small gimbal for a full frame camera is a waste of money. By the time you add a microphone and ND filter, it’s not going to balance.
I personally never had the need to add microphone to any gimbal set-up and this small gimbal will balance ok a full frame camera like a7III or IV with a small lens and ND filter
Again like all the others reviewers, no speak on oled screen issue (no auto off or pixel shifter) that will lead to burn in screen. Cables too short. Issue with charging with latest 1.74 firmware (icon does not show full charge). Issue with camera plugged as wire, as it constantly charge so battery don’t last much. Custom plate are not available and listed at very high price. A7c cannot be controlled. Bluetooth is not standard when it was working with m2.
I had mine on for good 3 hours straight the other day and no issue with screen burn.
Cables are easy to replace and in my case they fit with all of my cameras.
I didn't get extra battery plates with mine and everything, including a7IV fits fine with the basic standard one.
The control of a7IV doesn't work either but that it is easily fixable with future firmware updates.
I had no issues with Bluetooth - I'd only use it for connecting the phone to the gimbal with, not that camera.
@@PavSZ with the crane m2 you could control the camera a7c with the gimbal buttons because it was working with bluetooth. If you connect the cable, the gimbal try always to charge the camera apparently. Some other people have difficulties without the custom plates and several have already burn in screen. Some have published photos of the cables that are too short, they didn’t invent it. People have already return their gimbal due to screen burn in. They haven’t invented it either. You will have it too, it is just a question of time. It is oled and inherent to the technology. And the screen on the m3 is full bright and never switch off. Oled does not like direct sunlight as well.
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YOU CANNOT USE A RIG ON A SONY A7IV WITH ZHIYUN CRANE, I HAVE A SONY A7IV WITH SMALLRIG IT DOES NOT FIT
there is no need to shout.
I have said very clearly in my video that this will only take a7IV with a small lens and even then you'll have to take the rubber view finder cover. No way this would take any camera with a cage or a rig.
@@PavSZ sorry I was not shouting forgot my caps were on
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