Have you ever agitated for a Reuniclus ban? Cells. Have you ever depicted a Reuniclus Calm Mind war as hell in a RUclips video thumbnail? Cells. When two Reuniclus have a Calm Mind war, are their cells interlinked? Interlinked. Have you ever thought the devil's Reuniclus is shiny? Interlinked. Have you ever used a semicolon in a RUclips video title? Interlinked. What's it like to crit a +6 Psyshock? Interlinked. Do you long for having the sources in the video interlinked? replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-44067?p2 www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-reuniclus.3539351/ replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-62801 www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-ou-tiering-discussion-cloyster-now-banned.3741344/ www.smogon.com/forums/threads/spl-xv-bw-discussion-and-now-some-tiering-discussion.3734115/page-2 replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-754158?p2
This title reminds me of the time I asked my teacher what W.A.P meant. I was totally clueless, and she told me I should go ask someone else. So I asked my good friend Ryan Gosling and he told me it stood for (Reuiniclus) Wars are Preposterous. The R is silent as all talk of BW Reuniclus was banned in October 2025
Today I went outside, there was a raging sandstorm, that's why my lady, the true love of my life, Ana de Armas, called me and told me to come to her, it's warm and cozy in her house, but I told her "don't worry baby, no problem here, I have the magic guard ability and it negates all indirect damage"
@@boop53unfortunately for you, reuniclus was with his good friend Alakazam, which outsped your Ttar and without it having a chople berry, got ohko'ed by its focus blast
T tar is the ultimate balancer of bw ou as with its might pursuit and sand holds a broken tier together as without ttar this tier would be absolutely unplayable. Hats of to ttar the goatest of goat
@@pikminologueraisin2139 I agree but arguably tios is also broken and dnite despite being great does not fit into every team and both of them in my opinion don't even come close the impact of ttar. I have played games in which my opponent was i crit with latios away from taking away the game
Me personally I think if we just drop down Kyogre we'd have a perfectly reasonable answer to Reuniclus. I see no other issues with this change, in fact I think itd freshen up the meta in a new and innovative way
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There are more than a few identifiable, potentially ban-worthy threats in Generation V OU: Latios, Magic Guard, Reuniclus, Thundurus-T, Keldeo, Spikes, Scald... Rattling off a list is easy, but more difficult is determining what to suspect, in what order, and why. I want to explore what I will call "convergent brokenness" - i.e., similar threats in the metagame which accentuate each other's strengths by leveraging and exploiting a limited number of viable checks. In response to convergent brokenness in a metagame, it may be wisest to suspect the most broken threats in a tier first - even if all our acknowledged, listed threats eventually get banned. This is an inherent limitation of attempting to corral a bunch of threats into a single-file line for suspect testing. There is value in suspecting the most broken threats first, as it reduces the likelihood of engaging in unbanning no longer broken Pokemon in the future, but perhaps I am placing undue weight on this factor alone. Speaking of undue weight, I, candidly, may not care enough that some broken Pokemon keep the tier balance sand castle from crashing down, as it were. My primary goal is arriving at a healthy metagame regardless of the number of steps it takes. As stated in the video at 11m 47s, "Latios's biggest strength is enabling Alakazam and Reuniclus." Reuniclus and Latios, among other options, overload common metagame Psychic checks like Tyranitar. Sure enough, against common Psyspam Sand teams, one of the tier's premier archetypes, the Psychic check's - often Tyranitar's - role of navigating Latios/Alakazam/Reuniclus is overloaded and exploited by this team design, as these Pokemon learn Water-, Fighting-, and Bug-type coverage moves which help wear down common checks for themselves and each other. However, Spikes, Latios, Reuniclus, and Magic Guard are common elements of Psyspam Sand - all of which could, even individually, be suspect- or ban-worthy. Admittedly, Reuniclus is not merely broken on Sand, given that Hail, Clefable, etc. viably support Reuniclus as well. But notice that a pattern emerges of other Spikes, passive damage, and Magic Guard Pokemon (all potentially suspect- or ban-worthy features of the tier) contributing toward furthering Reuniclus's unhealthy game plan. Likewise, Latios, not only broken on Sand, is a staple of the tier's other strongest team archetypes, Rain and Hyper Offense, as well. Latios also works best in conjunction with Spikes, Magic Guard, passive damage, Thundurus-T, Keldeo, etc. (again, all potentially over-centralizing aspects of the meta) in order to shine. It should be clear at this point that my claim is Latios is an unhealthier presence in BW OU than Reuniclus. They are, among other threats, convergently broken and, therefore, we ought to suspect the most apparently broken aspects of the tier first. I can already anticipate the criticism that this perspective stymies meaningful progress in the metagame. I'm willing to be corrected here and am open to opposing input, but, at this moment, while I am convinced Reuniclus is unhealthy for BW OU, I'm not convinced that it isn't, on some level, the product of other, unhealthier forces. I'm not opposed to suspecting or even banning Reuniclus, but it might be best to suspect the most broken threats prior to doing so. tl;dr if we can agree Reuniclus is unhealthy and thus deserving of suspect testing, can we agree more unhealthy presences in the metagame are, therefore, more deserving of suspect testing?
I love that you brought up Sableye to act as a point for saying that Reuniclus is a problem. Damn Sableye is an otherwise awful Pokemon that just so happens to beat some Reuniclus sets.
BKC, do you think Reuniclus’s talents are so valuable that it is feasible that someone, in a tournament scene, would potentially bring a team with Reuniclus and Duosion, as a second Reuniclus? This is no joke, nor does it have any malicious intent behind, I know little to nothing about BW OU, but with how busted you’ve described Reuniclus’s traits to be, and how similar Duosion is to it’s evolution, do you think it’s possible?
@@rjante2236 I don't trust this bkc guy, it seems like he hates fun and therefore wants to remove it. The guy won't even let us use chlorophyll! Without dugtrio!??
Used to cope this mon shouldn’t be banned cuz it’s my fav but my ignorance is feeble in the face of overwhelming evidence that it possibly prevents a more healthy and enjoyable metagame
BKC girlfriend lore? Incredible. Love your content btw, just one problem I have with your vids, the replays oftentimes lag to high hell, which is not that great. Don't know what causes it, but whenever it isn't present your vids become even better.
I think this is the video where you said "Goodstuffs" is a VGC term and as a VGC player...true! Though, like in singles, a lot of times we prefer to fit it under some other archetype-name. And often the best goodstuffs teams are so popular that they calcify into getting a name all their own (CHALK, Big 6, etc.). I also think the VGC young blood doesnt say it very much--makes me think of the NuggetBridge days. Good spot
Not the best BW player (far from it) but at a glance it seems like such a momentum sink and without reliable recovery/immunity it gets worn down by Spikes, which psysand teams love, quite easily.
Has a full Power gen V meta been tried? Free sand rush chlorophyll and Swiftswim, blaziken, cloyster, deo-S, lando I, manaphy, torn and thundurus, bring gems back, free moody, maybe lugia, just go fuck it
Quixotic pronounced [KEE-hoh-tick] or [QUICK-soh-tick] - based on the character Don Quixote from the Spanish novel of the same name - meaning, as you say, idealistic to a fault
i’m not well versed in BW OU (thank god) but i wonder if an unaware mon would help against reuniclus somehow. i highly doubt it because of spikes but its food for thought edit: also another question, if reuniclus is banned do you think they’ll then proceed to do another suspect on excadrill?
The way you describe it just sounds like Gen 2 Snorlax but it doesn’t create clear and obvious massive new problems if it leaves (Zap would be broken in Gen 2 OU immediately if LAX was gone).
hi BKC, have you ever watched the TF2 SFM film Emesis Blu? in spite of being a TF2 sfm, it's one of my favorite films ever made after recently watching it and thought I should give you a recommendation. also wow Reuniclus wars, am I right fellas? anyways well wishes BKC
@@EggscellentTree its a fan film, not an official movie. its a masterpiece in non-linear storytelling that bases itself off the TF2 lore, with the only notable change being that respawning is now a canonical part of the world instead of just an unexplained game mechanic
I think a magic guard ban in gen 5 might be the way to go, since even clef can be good enough as a magic guard user as shown recently. If we ban magic guard I think we can preserve reuniclus in a balanced fashion
As the other commenter said it doesn''t get smash this gen. Unless the peopl e shaping bw tiering policy all collectively go insane and decide to unban DrizzleSwim and/or BP chaining none of the other smashers are worth it in OU either.
I don't think we need to ban Reuniclus, I think it would be much more reasonable to unban Funbro so that teams can run Funbro to counter Reuniclus thus adding stability to the metagame.
As someone who never really played BW on Showdown, I'm actually surprised that Reuniclus is this oppressive. In hindsight, I should've expected it, considering ADV OU is what I've played the most, so I know how dangerous bulky Pokémon with Calm Mind can be (I really don't like Suicune).
I’m a huge Reuniclus fan in gen 5, and I try to use it in almost every team and you know what? It fits on absolutely everything. At worst, it will be a useful pokemon, and at best it outright destroys entire teams. It should have been banned years ago but they brought back Excadrill, which is quite funny because I never thought just bringing a great spinner back down makes Reuniclus any less broken. I am the biggest Reun spammer out there and trust me, when I think this thing is ban worthy, it is ban worthy. Even I don’t think it’s weak enough to be in OU
For reference, quixotic is pronounced “quicks-sah-tick.” I loved Don Quixote when I read it, so I made sure to learn how to how to say the word named after him.
I'm only now discovering that BKC is the one that comes up with the film references and jokes in the FalseSwipeGaming videos because of the intro mentioning Mizoguchi lol
@@BKCplaysPokemon One of the GOATs. So hard to pick a favorite but Sansho the Bailiff is just too beautiful. And by the way, keep up with the good work!
I was astonished to see they actually managed to make any tiering decision, much less a GOOD one when they banned cloy, here's hoping that continues with reuniclus.
Personally, I kind of want to see what would happen to the meta if spikes itself were banned. Everything seems to revolve around Spikes (Latios, Excadrill, Magic Guard Pokemon, Thunderus-T) and more. So banning Spikes literally makes the most sense. You would be able to have more pokemon in the tier because a lot of these other pokemon would more manageable and whatever is broken past Spikes you can look at that. Hazards have always been stupid in competitive since their introduction. People are literally claiming that Skarmory is better than Tyranitar in Gen 3 despite Sandstorm solely because Spikes are that stupid to deal with. Gen 4 you have some people even wanting Clefable banned because it ignores hazards. People complaining about HDB in Gen 8 solely because they can't use Rocks and Spikes to break everything because the broken shit isn't getting worn down by hazards.
Been discussed already, and it isnt going to happen. Spikes, and hazards in general, are just well liked in singles to punish switching and keeping games going at a good pace. Doubly so in gens where Regen and Pivot moves exist. So hazard immunity can get lot of criticisms. Gen 8 has and continues to gets a decent amount of flak for long turn count games and hazard immune pivots.
@@theimpersonator7086 The thing is everything is linking back to hazards. I understand that its more than likely very improbable to ban Spikes but since almost if not every problem relating to Gen 5 is because of hazards and pokemon not being able to switch in safely because of them. I just think that Spikes as a whole is the issue. It would 100% completely warp the entire meta game but a lot of stupid broken stuff would not be broken anymore because they're not taking insane residual damage for coming in. There's 2 options where this stuff might go. Option 1: Keep Spikes and start going through the list of bans. First Reuniclus, then Thunderus-T (Volcarona potentially might need to get looked at I'm not sure), then potentially Latios/Sand Force Excadrill, Keldeo, potentially Alakazam (throughout the span of years of course) and hope the meta game stabilizes with enough bans. Option 2: Ban Spikes, bring back Deoxys-D for a retest and potentially Deoxys-S depending, and keep every other pokemon that is up for a ban and start looking at problematic pokemon that are broken even with no Spikes. Banning Spikes seems extreme and there's no doubt it would completely shake up the meta game to its core but since pokemon are only broken because they are getting worn down too quickly it just makes the most sense. It would create longer games but it would make games more consistent which is what Pokemon player generally wants leaning into more defense. I like more offense personally because I do not want to play pokemon games that last like 30 minutes because I have better things to be doing and I just wanna play a few games. But purely from a balance perspective it would fix more things.
@@yourdagan Skarmory's defensive profile coupled with Spikes is what makes it so powerful. It generates insane offense with insane defense. Tyranitar's sandstream is meta game defining 100%. But just as crucially you need Spikes and the single best spiker is Skarmory by a massive margin. The argument really comes down to what is better Spikes vs Sandstorm and honestly you could swap Tyranitar or Skarmory at #1 and it wouldn't hold too much contention but the fact that its even being discussed at all compared to Tyranitar just being plainly #1 from before shows how big of an impact Skarmory and its spiking has been in Gen 3 OU completely reshaping the game in Gen 3 OU because its so strong just like Sandstorm.
dumb thought but why not worry seed on ferro or celebi if you want an extremely specific reuniclus answer that can't be as easily PP stalled as perish song or skill swap...? (im not advocating for it but if PP is really an issue for the hyper-specific reuniclus answers then this would be a solution without that problem... or at least make the games go even longer lmao)
because you then waste a moveslot that ferro really needs to cover other mons. And even then, ferro can just switch out (unfortunately not a permanent status).
Always thought it’s wild how gen 5 remains an unstable mess, so much jank and broken aspects accepted at face value, even gen 9 has settled into a more stable meta at this stage which is mad when you think of the mental power creep and Tera as an (unbanned) concept. It is somehow a more fulfilling competitive experience than current gen 5, even post Cloyster ban. Please make it make sense. Pure ineptitude at this stage, every other meta is better ran than this. Power creep as an excuse can only go so far, gens 6, 7 and 9 are all settled meta and they were also power crept messes initially!
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Have you ever agitated for a Reuniclus ban? Cells.
Have you ever depicted a Reuniclus Calm Mind war as hell in a RUclips video thumbnail? Cells.
When two Reuniclus have a Calm Mind war, are their cells interlinked? Interlinked.
Have you ever thought the devil's Reuniclus is shiny? Interlinked.
Have you ever used a semicolon in a RUclips video title? Interlinked.
What's it like to crit a +6 Psyshock?
Interlinked.
Do you long for having the sources in the video interlinked?
replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-44067?p2
www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-reuniclus.3539351/
replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-62801
www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-ou-tiering-discussion-cloyster-now-banned.3741344/
www.smogon.com/forums/threads/spl-xv-bw-discussion-and-now-some-tiering-discussion.3734115/page-2
replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-754158?p2
Cells
Interlinked
Within cells interlinked
You’re nowhere near baseline! you have 24 hours to report to Finchinator
This title reminds me of the time I asked my teacher what W.A.P meant. I was totally clueless, and she told me I should go ask someone else. So I asked my good friend Ryan Gosling and he told me it stood for (Reuiniclus) Wars are Preposterous. The R is silent as all talk of BW Reuniclus was banned in October 2025
Interesting parable 😭
Ngl, ya had me in the first half
Today I went outside, there was a raging sandstorm, that's why my lady, the true love of my life, Ana de Armas, called me and told me to come to her, it's warm and cozy in her house, but I told her "don't worry baby, no problem here, I have the magic guard ability and it negates all indirect damage"
how wholesome. (I have sent a choice banded ttar crunch towards your general direction)
You're telling me Reuniclus stole Ana from him and that's why he wants it banned?
@@yep9462 probably
@@boop53unfortunately for you, reuniclus was with his good friend Alakazam, which outsped your Ttar and without it having a chople berry, got ohko'ed by its focus blast
@@kayramah2531 i dodge focus blast because im like that
I disagree I think we should ban all Pokémon except reuniclus make all BW team building really end in reuniclus
just a 6v6 reuniclus match
A 3v3: Reuniclus, Duosion and Solosis
@@giovannipellegrino878you’re cooking. This needs to be an official ladder
The Jello Wars
but then each team would be 1v1 with only Reuniclus because of the 1 of each Pokémon clause
We should mod Showdown to give Reuniclus 178 base speed
Naw it’s not enough to outspeed all scarfers w no investment.. make him base 350
Nerfing trick room teams? This will save BW OU.
And give him an rby crit chance
T tar is the ultimate balancer of bw ou as with its might pursuit and sand holds a broken tier together as without ttar this tier would be absolutely unplayable.
Hats of to ttar the goatest of goat
scarf tios, even dnite balance the tier
@@pikminologueraisin2139 I agree but arguably tios is also broken and dnite despite being great does not fit into every team and both of them in my opinion don't even come close the impact of ttar.
I have played games in which my opponent was i crit with latios away from taking away the game
here THE FUCK is why
Here TRANSFEMME is why
Here Task Force is why
That intro was heartwretchingly beautiful
Legends say the last game is still ongoing
Me personally I think if we just drop down Kyogre we'd have a perfectly reasonable answer to Reuniclus. I see no other issues with this change, in fact I think itd freshen up the meta in a new and innovative way
If we drop Kyogre, I think it's only fair to drop Groudon, too.
Rayquaza too, breaks the imbalance
@@solomonpnq That's a good point.
Semicolons Should Be Used In Titles, Now; Here TF Is Why
I could feel the aggression from the title alone.
BKC chose violence today
not even 30secs in and we are going off on a tangent lol. I love all your content bro. keep it up
All BW Smogon forum discussions end in the Great Scald Debate
It's genuinely stunning how broken BW OU is as a tier. Game Freak really cooked the perfect mess
7:56 "UNFORTUNATELY" DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COVER IT-
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There are more than a few identifiable, potentially ban-worthy threats in Generation V OU: Latios, Magic Guard, Reuniclus, Thundurus-T, Keldeo, Spikes, Scald... Rattling off a list is easy, but more difficult is determining what to suspect, in what order, and why. I want to explore what I will call "convergent brokenness" - i.e., similar threats in the metagame which accentuate each other's strengths by leveraging and exploiting a limited number of viable checks.
In response to convergent brokenness in a metagame, it may be wisest to suspect the most broken threats in a tier first - even if all our acknowledged, listed threats eventually get banned. This is an inherent limitation of attempting to corral a bunch of threats into a single-file line for suspect testing. There is value in suspecting the most broken threats first, as it reduces the likelihood of engaging in unbanning no longer broken Pokemon in the future, but perhaps I am placing undue weight on this factor alone. Speaking of undue weight, I, candidly, may not care enough that some broken Pokemon keep the tier balance sand castle from crashing down, as it were. My primary goal is arriving at a healthy metagame regardless of the number of steps it takes.
As stated in the video at 11m 47s, "Latios's biggest strength is enabling Alakazam and Reuniclus." Reuniclus and Latios, among other options, overload common metagame Psychic checks like Tyranitar. Sure enough, against common Psyspam Sand teams, one of the tier's premier archetypes, the Psychic check's - often Tyranitar's - role of navigating Latios/Alakazam/Reuniclus is overloaded and exploited by this team design, as these Pokemon learn Water-, Fighting-, and Bug-type coverage moves which help wear down common checks for themselves and each other. However, Spikes, Latios, Reuniclus, and Magic Guard are common elements of Psyspam Sand - all of which could, even individually, be suspect- or ban-worthy.
Admittedly, Reuniclus is not merely broken on Sand, given that Hail, Clefable, etc. viably support Reuniclus as well. But notice that a pattern emerges of other Spikes, passive damage, and Magic Guard Pokemon (all potentially suspect- or ban-worthy features of the tier) contributing toward furthering Reuniclus's unhealthy game plan.
Likewise, Latios, not only broken on Sand, is a staple of the tier's other strongest team archetypes, Rain and Hyper Offense, as well. Latios also works best in conjunction with Spikes, Magic Guard, passive damage, Thundurus-T, Keldeo, etc. (again, all potentially over-centralizing aspects of the meta) in order to shine.
It should be clear at this point that my claim is Latios is an unhealthier presence in BW OU than Reuniclus. They are, among other threats, convergently broken and, therefore, we ought to suspect the most apparently broken aspects of the tier first.
I can already anticipate the criticism that this perspective stymies meaningful progress in the metagame. I'm willing to be corrected here and am open to opposing input, but, at this moment, while I am convinced Reuniclus is unhealthy for BW OU, I'm not convinced that it isn't, on some level, the product of other, unhealthier forces. I'm not opposed to suspecting or even banning Reuniclus, but it might be best to suspect the most broken threats prior to doing so.
tl;dr if we can agree Reuniclus is unhealthy and thus deserving of suspect testing, can we agree more unhealthy presences in the metagame are, therefore, more deserving of suspect testing?
I'm usually not a ban fan.... then I got reverse swept by a final mon duosion. Cloyster fell can't argue against this one
Me after losing to psyspam one too many times
I love that you brought up Sableye to act as a point for saying that Reuniclus is a problem. Damn Sableye is an otherwise awful Pokemon that just so happens to beat some Reuniclus sets.
this guy must think reuniclus should be banned from BW OU
BKC, do you think Reuniclus’s talents are so valuable that it is feasible that someone, in a tournament scene, would potentially bring a team with Reuniclus and Duosion, as a second Reuniclus? This is no joke, nor does it have any malicious intent behind, I know little to nothing about BW OU, but with how busted you’ve described Reuniclus’s traits to be, and how similar Duosion is to it’s evolution, do you think it’s possible?
In the fall of 2015, McMeghan actually brought a Reuniclus + Duosion team to Smogon Tour playoffs! replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5ou-100914
After this, wouldn't it be just so cool to test Reshiram and KyuW in BW OU?!
The burning anger in the title omg
Personally I think reuniclus should NOT be banned from gen 5 ou because it is cool and I like it 🤔
I think this argument is strong and cool. In fact, I think Reuniclus should be allowed in Gen 5 NU.
@@rjante2236 I don't trust this bkc guy, it seems like he hates fun and therefore wants to remove it. The guy won't even let us use chlorophyll! Without dugtrio!??
I heard you shitting on Renuiclus on several occations so this was my most anticipated BKC video of all time
Used to cope this mon shouldn’t be banned cuz it’s my fav but my ignorance is feeble in the face of overwhelming evidence that it possibly prevents a more healthy and enjoyable metagame
the single greatest video intro ever, i am geekin rn 😭😭
Woah a jid fan
top 5 intros of all time
BKC girlfriend lore? Incredible. Love your content btw, just one problem I have with your vids, the replays oftentimes lag to high hell, which is not that great. Don't know what causes it, but whenever it isn't present your vids become even better.
I think this is the video where you said "Goodstuffs" is a VGC term and as a VGC player...true! Though, like in singles, a lot of times we prefer to fit it under some other archetype-name. And often the best goodstuffs teams are so popular that they calcify into getting a name all their own (CHALK, Big 6, etc.). I also think the VGC young blood doesnt say it very much--makes me think of the NuggetBridge days. Good spot
HAIL'S BEEN SHIT FOREVER LET IT HAVE THIS
With the popularity of psyspam in bw, has Spiritomb been given a look on its viability?
Not the best BW player (far from it) but at a glance it seems like such a momentum sink and without reliable recovery/immunity it gets worn down by Spikes, which psysand teams love, quite easily.
Has a full Power gen V meta been tried? Free sand rush chlorophyll and Swiftswim, blaziken, cloyster, deo-S, lando I, manaphy, torn and thundurus, bring gems back, free moody, maybe lugia, just go fuck it
What an intro. God I love these videos
I've been waiting for a video dedicated to your thoughts on gen 5 Reuniclus!! Goated content as always BKC.
i have a joke,
I'm struggling out here...
because i only have 1 pp and I've used it
thank you thank you very much you've been a good audience
We should just ban every ou ranked pokemon tbh i think thats what the metagame needs
Greatest intro of all time
morning folks. What do you think about the pronunciation of the established car brand porsche?
18:24 that got me laughing really hard, that was so out of the blue
Yesss ban the offensive scald switchin!
From rain nation
Leave my fetus alone
Reunicles is just CM Clef.
Quixotic pronounced [KEE-hoh-tick] or [QUICK-soh-tick] - based on the character Don Quixote from the Spanish novel of the same name - meaning, as you say, idealistic to a fault
i’m not well versed in BW OU (thank god) but i wonder if an unaware mon would help against reuniclus somehow. i highly doubt it because of spikes but its food for thought
edit: also another question, if reuniclus is banned do you think they’ll then proceed to do another suspect on excadrill?
That intro sure was something lmao😂
The way you describe it just sounds like Gen 2 Snorlax but it doesn’t create clear and obvious massive new problems if it leaves (Zap would be broken in Gen 2 OU immediately if LAX was gone).
hi BKC, have you ever watched the TF2 SFM film Emesis Blu? in spite of being a TF2 sfm, it's one of my favorite films ever made after recently watching it and thought I should give you a recommendation. also wow Reuniclus wars, am I right fellas? anyways well wishes BKC
Was not expecting to see Emesis blue reference in Reuniclus war vid
Wait, there is a team fortress 2 movie?
@@EggscellentTree its a fan film, not an official movie. its a masterpiece in non-linear storytelling that bases itself off the TF2 lore, with the only notable change being that respawning is now a canonical part of the world instead of just an unexplained game mechanic
I haven't but I've heard good things about it! Seems interesting enough that I'll give it a watch at some point
@@BKCplaysPokemon definitely worth the watch and would love your thoughts once you've seen it!
kwik-sah-tic is right, but quixotic is from the character don quixote pronounced kee-ho-tay. strange.
I think a magic guard ban in gen 5 might be the way to go, since even clef can be good enough as a magic guard user as shown recently. If we ban magic guard I think we can preserve reuniclus in a balanced fashion
I keep hearing ban spikes why not ban stealth rocks
do you think other shell smash users will see more experimentation now cloyster is gone? like, blastoise or whatever
Blastoise didn't get shell smash until gen 8 feelsbadman
@@orionkeenan6247 runicuilus get shell smash to bro(dont ask for SOURCES)
As the other commenter said it doesn''t get smash this gen. Unless the peopl e shaping bw tiering policy all collectively go insane and decide to unban DrizzleSwim and/or BP chaining none of the other smashers are worth it in OU either.
8 out of 10 intro this time kevin, keep the bangers cooking, one of my freestylers of all time
WHAT DID I JUST WATCH IN THE BACKGROUND???!!!! O.O
I don't think we need to ban Reuniclus, I think it would be much more reasonable to unban Funbro so that teams can run Funbro to counter Reuniclus thus adding stability to the metagame.
This was an interesting and insightful video, Mr BKC. Thank you for explaining why CM Reuniclus is such a problem
I disagree. I think you all should adapt.
As someone who never really played BW on Showdown, I'm actually surprised that Reuniclus is this oppressive. In hindsight, I should've expected it, considering ADV OU is what I've played the most, so I know how dangerous bulky Pokémon with Calm Mind can be (I really don't like Suicune).
I’m a huge Reuniclus fan in gen 5, and I try to use it in almost every team and you know what? It fits on absolutely everything. At worst, it will be a useful pokemon, and at best it outright destroys entire teams. It should have been banned years ago but they brought back Excadrill, which is quite funny because I never thought just bringing a great spinner back down makes Reuniclus any less broken. I am the biggest Reun spammer out there and trust me, when I think this thing is ban worthy, it is ban worthy. Even I don’t think it’s weak enough to be in OU
As someone who has only watched BW through a few SPL games and has no other investment in the tier, I absolutely agree with the title
1:41 oh boy
"... the playerbase gravitated toward wanting to use something new..." I agree with this sentiment so much. Great video thank you!
Have you considered that I really like reuniclus and don't want to see it go? That should count for something
For reference, quixotic is pronounced “quicks-sah-tick.” I loved Don Quixote when I read it, so I made sure to learn how to how to say the word named after him.
another day another storm another rain double (meaning)
I'm only now discovering that BKC is the one that comes up with the film references and jokes in the FalseSwipeGaming videos because of the intro mentioning Mizoguchi lol
Story of the Last Chrysanthemums, Street of Shame, A Geisha, Women of the Night, Life of Oharu, Crucified Lovers, and so many others ugh he's so great
@@BKCplaysPokemon One of the GOATs. So hard to pick a favorite but Sansho the Bailiff is just too beautiful. And by the way, keep up with the good work!
is this guy some kinda failed film student
I was astonished to see they actually managed to make any tiering decision, much less a GOOD one when they banned cloy, here's hoping that continues with reuniclus.
I wonder how often bkc rants about gen 5 Ou to people IRL
Personally, I kind of want to see what would happen to the meta if spikes itself were banned. Everything seems to revolve around Spikes (Latios, Excadrill, Magic Guard Pokemon, Thunderus-T) and more. So banning Spikes literally makes the most sense. You would be able to have more pokemon in the tier because a lot of these other pokemon would more manageable and whatever is broken past Spikes you can look at that.
Hazards have always been stupid in competitive since their introduction. People are literally claiming that Skarmory is better than Tyranitar in Gen 3 despite Sandstorm solely because Spikes are that stupid to deal with. Gen 4 you have some people even wanting Clefable banned because it ignores hazards. People complaining about HDB in Gen 8 solely because they can't use Rocks and Spikes to break everything because the broken shit isn't getting worn down by hazards.
Been discussed already, and it isnt going to happen. Spikes, and hazards in general, are just well liked in singles to punish switching and keeping games going at a good pace. Doubly so in gens where Regen and Pivot moves exist. So hazard immunity can get lot of criticisms.
Gen 8 has and continues to gets a decent amount of flak for long turn count games and hazard immune pivots.
It's not Spikes, it's Skarmory's defensive profile. Every other Spikes user is easier to faint.
@@theimpersonator7086 The thing is everything is linking back to hazards. I understand that its more than likely very improbable to ban Spikes but since almost if not every problem relating to Gen 5 is because of hazards and pokemon not being able to switch in safely because of them. I just think that Spikes as a whole is the issue. It would 100% completely warp the entire meta game but a lot of stupid broken stuff would not be broken anymore because they're not taking insane residual damage for coming in.
There's 2 options where this stuff might go.
Option 1: Keep Spikes and start going through the list of bans. First Reuniclus, then Thunderus-T (Volcarona potentially might need to get looked at I'm not sure), then potentially Latios/Sand Force Excadrill, Keldeo, potentially Alakazam (throughout the span of years of course) and hope the meta game stabilizes with enough bans.
Option 2: Ban Spikes, bring back Deoxys-D for a retest and potentially Deoxys-S depending, and keep every other pokemon that is up for a ban and start looking at problematic pokemon that are broken even with no Spikes.
Banning Spikes seems extreme and there's no doubt it would completely shake up the meta game to its core but since pokemon are only broken because they are getting worn down too quickly it just makes the most sense. It would create longer games but it would make games more consistent which is what Pokemon player generally wants leaning into more defense. I like more offense personally because I do not want to play pokemon games that last like 30 minutes because I have better things to be doing and I just wanna play a few games. But purely from a balance perspective it would fix more things.
@@yourdagan Skarmory's defensive profile coupled with Spikes is what makes it so powerful. It generates insane offense with insane defense. Tyranitar's sandstream is meta game defining 100%. But just as crucially you need Spikes and the single best spiker is Skarmory by a massive margin. The argument really comes down to what is better Spikes vs Sandstorm and honestly you could swap Tyranitar or Skarmory at #1 and it wouldn't hold too much contention but the fact that its even being discussed at all compared to Tyranitar just being plainly #1 from before shows how big of an impact Skarmory and its spiking has been in Gen 3 OU completely reshaping the game in Gen 3 OU because its so strong just like Sandstorm.
Shoutouts to Finch for opening back up the thread, job isn’t done yet
dumb thought but why not worry seed on ferro or celebi if you want an extremely specific reuniclus answer that can't be as easily PP stalled as perish song or skill swap...?
(im not advocating for it but if PP is really an issue for the hyper-specific reuniclus answers then this would be a solution without that problem... or at least make the games go even longer lmao)
because you then waste a moveslot that ferro really needs to cover other mons. And even then, ferro can just switch out (unfortunately not a permanent status).
One of the best intros ever
I was pissed at this video because my second favorite Pokemon is Reuniclus only behind Pawniyard.
Then I realized that I don’t play Showdown 🤷♂️
Could u make a video on why rain is fucking dead? Or is it just reuinuclus?
Gen 5 ou should pull a dlc or new gen and unban all the not egregious shit to see where the tier goes. Btw bro got mad romantical for the intro.
For whatever reason we pronounce quixotic like a native English word (quick-sotic) even though we don't for Quixote
Hey, bkc, any chance you could pass me a bw ou team?
Truthfully, if you're playing gen 5, you aren't there to have a healthy meta.
I'm not claiming to have knowledge on the Gen 5 meta, but from what I hear it's way more balanced in the lower tiers (not a high bar)
@@rjante2236Most gens are like this. OU has a different standard and is under more scrutiny than any of the other meta games.
Reuniclus was a big reason why i never played gen 5 OU. thank you for this
The intro was absolute kino
"Quixotic" is pronounced like 'exotic' but with 'quick' instead of 'egg'
goated intro
Already over a decade of me thinking blob should be banned :/
Quixotic comes from Don Quixote iirc, so just pronounce it like you would the name
I'm starting a motion to rename it Rainiclus because of how it rains on your parade
13:03 Double regenerator vs double magic guard having 344 turn match . Sounds extremely unfun.
Ban latios
Huh. It's almost like banning the best physical setup sweeper caused other threats to become more dominant.
How about unbanning some thing from ubers and see what happens
“Here the fuck is why”
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if you think it's broken remind yourself it does have to hit focus blast
As a person who doesnt play gen 5 ou i think you shouldnt ban reuniclus because hes just a funny little blob guy that did nothing wrong.
Always thought it’s wild how gen 5 remains an unstable mess, so much jank and broken aspects accepted at face value, even gen 9 has settled into a more stable meta at this stage which is mad when you think of the mental power creep and Tera as an (unbanned) concept. It is somehow a more fulfilling competitive experience than current gen 5, even post Cloyster ban.
Please make it make sense. Pure ineptitude at this stage, every other meta is better ran than this. Power creep as an excuse can only go so far, gens 6, 7 and 9 are all settled meta and they were also power crept messes initially!
YES THE SUSPECT TEST HAPPENED WE DID IT
The last of romantic men...
BKC
You know what could help against ruiniclus? Cloyster