Great review, although - small point - Robert Holmes wasn't a vegetarian, although he was concerned with animal welfare. As he said in one interview: “I had this vegetarian theme running through [The Two Doctors], although I’m not a vegetarian... The things we do to animals!”
Thanks for doing this review. Colin Baker’s era definitely deserves it at you can tell how much effort he puts into his performance as the Sixth Doctor. Definitely underrated in my opinion.
Really nice to see some appreciation for Colin Baker i always felt so bad for him during his era, season 22 is in my opinion the most underrated season of doctor who of all time and I actually really like 23 as well, the twin dilemma through not so much.
This was a really well done video and a great exploration into the behind the scenes conflicts. The Sixth doctor is one of my favorites just for his genuine character arc from an overtempered unbearable madman to a very chill and strong minded character. This is probably may favorite of your doctor review videos. A Very well done!!
I met Colin Baker a few days ago at a small convention and jesus christ I'll tell you he is the nicest person ever we had a chat I asked who's his favourite doctor and his favourite and also what it was like working with Troughton in the 2 doctors and he made me so happy I was honestly nervous and we both had a laugh abt me being nervous but yh this honestly makes me love him more he deserved alot more
While arguably the most conflicting of the classic eras, can we all agree that the episode titles for this era are some of the most memorable. Also as a german, yeah german Daleks aren´t the best voice wise, but that might also be because of a dubbing miscommunication of a timespan between the first airing and I wanna say 2014 or so till we finally decided to dub the classic era. A process that is still going on right now actually german translating takes a long time. Modern era Dalek voices are much better though in german so at least there´s that, maybe also because they finally translated exterminate to eliminate instead of the german word for destroy.
Some great episode titles I agree. Glad to hear the German dubs are better - I believe this one was from a broadcast in the 90s (or so I've heard) and has been improved on for the home media releases.
Whatever your thoughts on this era, Colin was never given the opportunity to really shine in the role. This has been redeemed in recent years with the Big Finish audio releases, but as a whole, various factors stacked up against Colin during his tenure, which was a real shame.
With Peter Davison’s “9 month wait”, there were quite a few repeats of Doctor Who in the middle of 1981, so there wasn’t really a “9-month wait”. Bear in mind Davison’s era was twice per week, so the gap was longer than any other Doctor until that point.
Had to come back and add, the decision to play ‘ITS THE MASTER’ for Trial instead of Mark, was inspired. I had honestly worried that you’d grown tired of that gag, and was a little sad. And then WHAM. Brilliant. Long may it continue 😂😂
@@gordonw.8831 I've never understood that take on Hell Bent. It's a perfectly decent episode imho, but for some reason it became obligatory or even "trendy" to have a low opinion of it.
@@ftumschk The first part of Hell Bent is actually really good. It falls apart when they get to the citadel and rescue clara. I vehemently hate what Moffat had done with Clara (and lady Me is pointless and stupid too). The second part of Hell Bent undermines the two previous episodes too. And also it derails DW canon and continuity. Fear Her is a very boring and very bad episode, but Hell Bent actively infuriates me (same as Timeless Children)
AMAZING! Thank you so much for coming back to continue your work Al. Please set up some sort of donation site so we can buy you an *insert beverage here* for all your work on these.
I hope you don’t find the term ‘new fan’ annoying! I’ve been a Who fan for over 40 years so I consider anyone who started watching in the last 30 years as a new fan! Haha😂
Nice finds of facts and photos! Great presentation to a very underrated era, thanks! Looking forward to diving into your other reviews! Also, 12:53 for the win! 😁
I recently showed a guest Androzani. He was astonished at it, and asked to see Twin Dilemma. He couldn’t believe the difference, nor can I. However I do like the latter out of nostalgia; it is embarrassing, but I think it has its merits, especially Colin Baker, who had a hellish time trying to make his version the opposite of Davison.
My thoughts then and now are that JNT was pissed at Davison not renewing. So he rushed a successor. The off season would have given further time to plan and finesse this new incarnation. Avoiding some of the catastrophic missteps.
Tegan would of given the 6th Doctor a run for his money esp with her shaper tongue and sarcasm 😂. Timelash is my least fav of 6th era but I do like the Borad he was an interesting villain it's just some of the other cast really pull the script down. Love all the Evil One jokes and effects had me almost choking on my drink 😂. I always think Peri died and the Time Lords were just making it up that she was still alive to make the Doctor feel good. Although the Target Novel says she lived etc but her death is one of those spine chilling moments - "Protect me I am your Lord and Master" - classic stuff.
I normally break up your videos into multiple days so I have only watched the first couple of parts. I'm 100% the opposite of most of the fan base. Even though Caves was great, I like Twin Dilemma better than 95% of Davison's era and even parts of Tom's final season. Colin was 100% engaged and gave a life to the show it hadn't had in since Romana II's first season. Twin Dilemma was such a huge upgrade (except visuals and the twin's acting) and I was excited.
Thanks for the review, I ask that you please listen to all the big finish stories of the six doctor before you go further with reviews! This is honestly where he signs with pretty much every story with his companion, Dr. Evelyn smyth being excellent. Also having amazing care to growth and even having a new suit for obvious reasons.
Great video. I largely agree with your analyses. I'd add that it felt like the Doctor and Peri, or perhaps Colin and Nicola, had developed a much better relationship by Season 23. It's such a shame that it wasn't allowed to continue, and an even bigger blow to lose Eric Saward.
I always thought that "have the Doctor start arrogant and blustery but get better as you get to know him" and "give us a whole story with the new doctor before the end of the season" are both perfectly reasonable decisions, and fairly interesting things to do - but doing both undercuts everything and risks leaving a lasting impression of Colin Baker's Doctor as the nasty Doctor I didn't like much.
"Dr Who is Dead" cue clip of 2nd Doctor... Then a thought passed my mind at least it wasn't another Jamie idea 😂. I agree the Twin Dilemma was a weak story to follow on from Caves they should of got Holmes to write the post Caves story - would of been interesting to see what we have gotten. A later story Paradise Towers I always thought has 6th Doctor story all over it esp the dark themes of that particular story and I can see 6th being perfectly sarcastic and condescending 😂. I started watching Dr Who as youngster during the 5th Doctors final season - so grew up more with the 6th. Loved the 6th even his coat - which I wanted as a dressing gown (wish they would make that a reality 😂). I still love his condescending tone, sarcasm and small moments of compassion. I was so upset when he "regenerated" as I just wanted more of this Doctor. And you had Peri - drifts off into fantasy land 😂.
Here is my ranking for doctor who classic series 22 number one the two doctors number 2 attack of the cybermen number 3 Mark of the Rani number 4 vengeance of vaross and number 5 time lashes number 6 Revelation of the daleks
Here are my ranking series 23 of classic Dr who number one the mysterious planet number the ultimate foe number 4 terror of the vervoids number 3 mindwrop
Kind of apt this came out in the week Michael Jayston passed away. RIP I rather enjoy season 22, it’s got the same highs and lows as any other 80s Who. Season 23 though I find just too difficult to watch, the framing device of the trial is just too invasive, and frankly overly metatextual. I do need to track down that audio though!
Colin Baker was a gentleman but in my personal opinion he was the worst actor to play Doctor Who. The first Doctor could be erasable as Patrick Trouton it's said was erasable in real life, but Colin Baker just came across as bad-tempered and annoying and I soon stopped watching Doctor Who. Many years later I got to watch the whole Colin Baker era and having watched them I can confirm that 40 years on my first instinct was correct.
I agree, what I have seen of Colin Baker post Doctor Who is that he comes across as a nice guy, but his portrayal of Doctor Who was just awful and frankly hard to watch.
Yep, The Two Doctors cemented for me the era was bad and Colin Baker is not a good actor. Explains why he got such little work before and particularly after WHO.
I love Colin so much, but Mindwarp is the worst classic who story in my book. I'm not a fan of unreliable narrator stories to begin with, but we never got resolution on what parts actually happened and what was made up. On rewatch, it's very annoying. On top of that, supposedly, Colin himself didn't know either and when he asked, nobody would tell him... I'm also very down on The Ultimate Foe - that is another type of story that never sits well with me.
Great review, although - small point - Robert Holmes wasn't a vegetarian, although he was concerned with animal welfare. As he said in one interview: “I had this vegetarian theme running through [The Two Doctors], although I’m not a vegetarian... The things we do to animals!”
Interesting - never read that interview. You learn something new every day!
@@AlReviewsWho Thanks! The interview was in the May 1985 edition of Doctor Who Magazine.
Thanks for doing this review. Colin Baker’s era definitely deserves it at you can tell how much effort he puts into his performance as the Sixth Doctor. Definitely underrated in my opinion.
The man, the myth, the legend has returned. Good to see you come back and review my favourite doctor.
By 'the legend ' you of course mean Colin Baker!
@AlReviewsWho I meant you actually but now I mean both.
Really nice to see some appreciation for Colin Baker i always felt so bad for him during his era, season 22 is in my opinion the most underrated season of doctor who of all time and I actually really like 23 as well, the twin dilemma through not so much.
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Oh my god. Great to see you back. I love this series.
Your sound editing is shocking mate 😮😮😮
And yes I can talk , I do all my own editing , sfx, Foley and soundtrack editing. 😉
This was a really well done video and a great exploration into the behind the scenes conflicts. The Sixth doctor is one of my favorites just for his genuine character arc from an overtempered unbearable madman to a very chill and strong minded character. This is probably may favorite of your doctor review videos. A Very well done!!
I have been loving your era reviews. Can't wait for the Sylvester McCoy era! Keep up the good work.
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Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated!!
I wasn't expecting it this soon! I binged all of your previous episodes in two days and I had to subscribe immediately.
YES I missed these so much!
I met Colin Baker a few days ago at a small convention and jesus christ I'll tell you he is the nicest person ever we had a chat I asked who's his favourite doctor and his favourite and also what it was like working with Troughton in the 2 doctors and he made me so happy I was honestly nervous and we both had a laugh abt me being nervous but yh this honestly makes me love him more he deserved alot more
I was convinced you weren't coming back🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wasn't entirely sure myself tbh!
While arguably the most conflicting of the classic eras, can we all agree that the episode titles for this era are some of the most memorable. Also as a german, yeah german Daleks aren´t the best voice wise, but that might also be because of a dubbing miscommunication of a timespan between the first airing and I wanna say 2014 or so till we finally decided to dub the classic era. A process that is still going on right now actually german translating takes a long time. Modern era Dalek voices are much better though in german so at least there´s that, maybe also because they finally translated exterminate to eliminate instead of the german word for destroy.
Some great episode titles I agree. Glad to hear the German dubs are better - I believe this one was from a broadcast in the 90s (or so I've heard) and has been improved on for the home media releases.
I LOVE your era reviews!!!!
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Whatever your thoughts on this era, Colin was never given the opportunity to really shine in the role. This has been redeemed in recent years with the Big Finish audio releases, but as a whole, various factors stacked up against Colin during his tenure, which was a real shame.
With Peter Davison’s “9 month wait”, there were quite a few repeats of Doctor Who in the middle of 1981, so there wasn’t really a “9-month wait”. Bear in mind Davison’s era was twice per week, so the gap was longer than any other Doctor until that point.
Had to come back and add, the decision to play ‘ITS THE MASTER’ for Trial instead of Mark, was inspired. I had honestly worried that you’d grown tired of that gag, and was a little sad. And then WHAM. Brilliant. Long may it continue 😂😂
Going straight from Caves of Androzani to Twin Dilemma would be like going from Heaven Sent to Fear Her 😂
Or from Heaven Sent to Hell Bent. Oh wait...
@@gordonw.8831 I've never understood that take on Hell Bent. It's a perfectly decent episode imho, but for some reason it became obligatory or even "trendy" to have a low opinion of it.
I know this isn't a popular opinion but I think Heaven Sent is tedious garbage. It's on my list of stories I will never rewatch.
In my case, I prefer Twin Dilemma over the Caves of Androzani.
@@ftumschk The first part of Hell Bent is actually really good. It falls apart when they get to the citadel and rescue clara. I vehemently hate what Moffat had done with Clara (and lady Me is pointless and stupid too). The second part of Hell Bent undermines the two previous episodes too. And also it derails DW canon and continuity. Fear Her is a very boring and very bad episode, but Hell Bent actively infuriates me (same as Timeless Children)
AMAZING! Thank you so much for coming back to continue your work Al. Please set up some sort of donation site so we can buy you an *insert beverage here* for all your work on these.
Finally got through all the videos during one long shift and can watch this one, I've been excited to see how you see the most underrated (imo) Doctor
As someone who watched this era when it went out in the 80s, it’s great to see new fans revisiting my childhood Who.
I hope you don’t find the term ‘new fan’ annoying! I’ve been a Who fan for over 40 years so I consider anyone who started watching in the last 30 years as a new fan! Haha😂
Missed you glad you are back🎉
Nice finds of facts and photos!
Great presentation to a very underrated era, thanks!
Looking forward to diving into your other reviews!
Also, 12:53 for the win! 😁
I recently showed a guest Androzani. He was astonished at it, and asked to see Twin Dilemma. He couldn’t believe the difference, nor can I. However I do like the latter out of nostalgia; it is embarrassing, but I think it has its merits, especially Colin Baker, who had a hellish time trying to make his version the opposite of Davison.
I'm excited what creative choice you make to cover the short tenures of 8 and 9
In 85 I was just happy that Perry didn't wear a bra. 😊
My thoughts then and now are that JNT was pissed at Davison not renewing. So he rushed a successor. The off season would have given further time to plan and finesse this new incarnation. Avoiding some of the catastrophic missteps.
cant wait for Mccoy! ill fully admit 7's era is my least favorite time in the show, but im really curious to hear your thoughts on it
Tegan would of given the 6th Doctor a run for his money esp with her shaper tongue and sarcasm 😂. Timelash is my least fav of 6th era but I do like the Borad he was an interesting villain it's just some of the other cast really pull the script down.
Love all the Evil One jokes and effects had me almost choking on my drink 😂. I always think Peri died and the Time Lords were just making it up that she was still alive to make the Doctor feel good. Although the Target Novel says she lived etc but her death is one of those spine chilling moments - "Protect me I am your Lord and Master" - classic stuff.
50:05 Criminal there is no image of Perry the Platypus here
I normally break up your videos into multiple days so I have only watched the first couple of parts. I'm 100% the opposite of most of the fan base. Even though Caves was great, I like Twin Dilemma better than 95% of Davison's era and even parts of Tom's final season. Colin was 100% engaged and gave a life to the show it hadn't had in since Romana II's first season. Twin Dilemma was such a huge upgrade (except visuals and the twin's acting) and I was excited.
Youre back 🎉🎉🎉
Colin was an underrated Dr who could've been great shame about the stories
Thanks for the review, I ask that you please listen to all the big finish stories of the six doctor before you go further with reviews! This is honestly where he signs with pretty much every story with his companion, Dr. Evelyn smyth being excellent. Also having amazing care to growth and even having a new suit for obvious reasons.
Did anyone actually like -
Dementia in time ??? 😂
Great video. I largely agree with your analyses. I'd add that it felt like the Doctor and Peri, or perhaps Colin and Nicola, had developed a much better relationship by Season 23. It's such a shame that it wasn't allowed to continue, and an even bigger blow to lose Eric Saward.
I always thought that "have the Doctor start arrogant and blustery but get better as you get to know him" and "give us a whole story with the new doctor before the end of the season" are both perfectly reasonable decisions, and fairly interesting things to do - but doing both undercuts everything and risks leaving a lasting impression of Colin Baker's Doctor as the nasty Doctor I didn't like much.
"thou f***in' Knob" my favourite doctor who quote
"Dr Who is Dead" cue clip of 2nd Doctor... Then a thought passed my mind at least it wasn't another Jamie idea 😂. I agree the Twin Dilemma was a weak story to follow on from Caves they should of got Holmes to write the post Caves story - would of been interesting to see what we have gotten. A later story Paradise Towers I always thought has 6th Doctor story all over it esp the dark themes of that particular story and I can see 6th being perfectly sarcastic and condescending 😂.
I started watching Dr Who as youngster during the 5th Doctors final season - so grew up more with the 6th. Loved the 6th even his coat - which I wanted as a dressing gown (wish they would make that a reality 😂). I still love his condescending tone, sarcasm and small moments of compassion. I was so upset when he "regenerated" as I just wanted more of this Doctor. And you had Peri - drifts off into fantasy land 😂.
Great retrospective I enjoyed his second season more
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I actually WAS four when season 22 went out. And remember watching it...
Here is my ranking for doctor who classic series 22 number one the two doctors number 2 attack of the cybermen number 3 Mark of the Rani number 4 vengeance of vaross and number 5 time lashes number 6 Revelation of the daleks
Here are my ranking series 23 of classic Dr who number one the mysterious planet number the ultimate foe number 4 terror of the vervoids number 3 mindwrop
Is it AL or AI ?? Im guessing the l is not an I. lol.
Al, short for Alastair
Imagine if Dibber's last name was Glamer. With Sabalom, the two would be called Glitz and Glamer
Glitz and Glamour
Unpopular opinion but I actually like Timelash and not keen on Vengeance on Varos :O
Ah six, the thirteen of the classic series.
But Colin is better actor that Jodie Whittaker.
@@mayotango1317 Debatable
I thought this was AI reviews who and it would be like witan from the war machines dissing tinelords
Ha! Had ol' WOTAN been reading this, 1hr 14 would only get you halfway through Twin Dilemma.
Mark of the rani love yay
It feels like JNT and BBC were trying to kill the show and ruin Colin in the process.
Kind of apt this came out in the week Michael Jayston passed away. RIP
I rather enjoy season 22, it’s got the same highs and lows as any other 80s Who. Season 23 though I find just too difficult to watch, the framing device of the trial is just too invasive, and frankly overly metatextual.
I do need to track down that audio though!
I thought it was ai reviews who
Colin Baker was a gentleman but in my personal opinion he was the worst actor to play Doctor Who. The first Doctor could be erasable as Patrick Trouton it's said was erasable in real life, but Colin Baker just came across as bad-tempered and annoying and I soon stopped watching Doctor Who. Many years later I got to watch the whole Colin Baker era and having watched them I can confirm that 40 years on my first instinct was correct.
I agree, what I have seen of Colin Baker post Doctor Who is that he comes across as a nice guy, but his portrayal of Doctor Who was just awful and frankly hard to watch.
Scorchio😊
Today I have been mostly eating sprouts
I stopped watching Doctor Who during the Colin Baker Era, it was truly awful.
No-one intelligent believes such nonsense.
Yep, The Two Doctors cemented for me the era was bad and Colin Baker is not a good actor. Explains why he got such little work before and particularly after WHO.
I love Colin so much, but Mindwarp is the worst classic who story in my book. I'm not a fan of unreliable narrator stories to begin with, but we never got resolution on what parts actually happened and what was made up. On rewatch, it's very annoying. On top of that, supposedly, Colin himself didn't know either and when he asked, nobody would tell him... I'm also very down on The Ultimate Foe - that is another type of story that never sits well with me.