I think we're getting into a good point with handheld. Competition should make products offer more at a lower price. I had a gpd win 1 and now there are way more options depending on needs
My gpd win 1 was a bittersweet experience. Sometimes, I loved it. The deck tho? It's been a constant surprise. Not that much time has passed! So the market is FINALLY where I wanted it to be when I bought the Experia play! 😊😊😊
The inputs alone sell the deck, there isn't a game I can't play, the ally is only better docked, otherwise the battery life is worse than the deck since it uses more power
I have a steamdeck and also just got my GDP win4. the steam deck has been great but it is super big to carry. The GDP win 4 is much smaller and and is windows portable and so far I am liking it almost as much as my steamdeck. I would love to see more Nintendo switch type devices that allow off-line play. I am tempted to check out the ROG Ally when it comes out. The new PSP that needs a data connection to play is a big no for me.
Handheld PCs are coming out. The Switch is still the only handheld console in the market (assuming you are not counting 3ds and Vita). Also why do people act as if handheld systems are some kind of a new concept. Handhelds have existed since the day of the Game & Watch. Gameboy, GBA, DS, 3ds, PSP, PS Vita, Game Gear, etc. all exist.
steam deck is just as much of a console as the switch. It ticks literally every box that a console does. Does the fact that the ps2 and ps3 could have linux installed make them PCs now and not consoles?
@@HearMeLearn except the official website itself states that Steam Deck is a handheld PC. Valve have no where used the word console. Also Steam is a PC digital store. And the Steam Deck does not restrict you to one store like PlayStation, Nintendo and Xbox. Steam Deck officially allows installation of Windows, a PC OS. And the Deck runs PC versions of the games. So no, Steam Deck is a PC.
11:53 all of those cookies are actually Nabisco. That means that the cookies except Hydrox are mostly made with the same parts. They don't source flour for cookies from different vendors depending on the cookie it goes into. So it's actually more like the computer components than you think.
The single most important thing with these handhelds is support. With a switch you're pretty much guaranteed to have it from launch day to the day it is discontinued and usually a good few years beyond that. The only one that comes close so far is the steam deck in that way and honestly the only one I would trust again would be another switch or Nintendo type portable hybrid console. Microsoft,Sony I don't know if I'd trust them especially Sony after the debacle with the Vita.
Omg he said it, I've been talking about how Sony should push more into pc gaming, more of a store and not an os, but it adds to what I've been thinking and wanting forever now
Sony podla mna pouzije nejaky arm chip a k tomu android a bude to stream handheld alebo nieco ako Z1/custom APU a vlastny system. V podstate s takym vykonom aky ma Z1 extreme alebo aj Z1 by mohli pouzit system ps4/ps5 s malymi upravami. Alebo Vita 3000 O_o
I'm getting between 100 and 120 on the latest Star Wars game on my top end PC. Heck, my Win Max 2 got a steady 35 fps most of the time with a few dips and spikes.
The ally is a really tempting device for this price. It feels like the device the switch 2 should ve been. Would be interesting to see steam os running on the Asus competitor. ☮️
I think we have too many emulation based devices considering most sub $300 smartphones can emulate 75% of what there is to even emulate. Most people already have a capable device ready to go. Use an a console controller with a $20 clip or buy a Razer Kishi if you got the budget and save spending even more on a device, while also not having to carry around another. Streaming, pointless for many people so no opinion and it's pretty much available on everything with a screen. PC based gaming handhelds are still early, but I'm interested to see how fast we can transition and make it a common platform on the market.
I legit agree with Microsoft needing to make an Xbox handheld that isn't just a cloud gaming device (but can cloud game). It would probably take over a good market share of the handheld space. The rest of the handheld market is far too niche, not enough support, and the steam deck will likely be the main squeeze for a long time coming for people who want to play pc games and do some cloud and retro gaming. Very few people comparatively want to be paying full budget pc price for handhelds, and likely already have good enough PCs and cloud gaming options already on hand (says guy with a switch, pc, xbox, ps4, and some retro handhelds)
Gpd win max 2 has an oculink port that blows thunderbolt 4 out of the water for egpu. Probably the best one if you have the money and can handle the form factor.
Many of them are not that different, I would argue it is better to think of them as closer to laptops than consoles. We can have too many consoles as that implies console exclusives, whereas I would argue you cannot have too many laptops as more laptops just means more competition which implies more innovation to give your own product an edge.
@@JDabz96 that's just wrong though. It's only better at being cheap. If you're someone who has more money than what to do with it (plenty of PC gamers it seems) there are objectively better options.
@@elirantuil5003 this device restricts you to controller only games on the go.... the input are horrendous, navigating windows with a joystick Is batshit.... and it's gonna have worse battery life than the deck unless you make the settings similar to the steam decks.... you people have smooth brains. This is just windows throwing money to compete with Linux, since Linux is a superior OS... they don't want to lose there monopoly... all the fucking bots in the chat
What we need is a portable device that can allow users to buy game cards. That way games can be heavily optimized while also giving the users the ability to do normal pc stuff, like how the steam deck works but better
whatever comes next, it has to be as affordable as the steamdeck if you want wide adoption of hte device. It also needs to be AVAILABLE without pre-ordering, much like the PSP was back in the day. Plain and simple.
I feel like despite all this, eventually people will just default to the established brands. Sony, Nintendo, Valve and MS are the only companies that can subsidize their products enough to make their handhelds attractive price wise. Everyone else is just flooding into a tiny niche market of $700-$1500 handheld PC's. Even if each brand has a gaming handheld, I feel Sony, MS and Valve would be all very similar to each other with Nintendo being the only one with enough unique software to be attractive.
theres too many handhelds that nobody is buying exsept the switch yes that also includes steamdeck a sucsess for steam sure but barely 2 million units is tiny
Yeah and the last time Sony tried to compete with Nintendo on the handheld side, they got kicked badly. The DS sold double of what the PSP sold and the 3ds slaughtered the Vita. Sony is best left making home consoles. There is a reason why Microsoft backed away from the handheld market. They were looking to make one back during the PSP and DS days.
I definitely agree that it's about time for a brand new OS to be developed by _somebody_ that isn't just another Linux distro, or based on Windows or Apple's Unix-based OS. Like a brand new Unix-based would be fine I guess. But with the advancements of ARM chips, they really do deserve their own "built from the ground-up" OS that isn't associated with any of those other companies/brands. A big issue with a lot of them, is they are built _on top_ of previously existing OS architecture/code. Like Windows is really just 95/XP re-skinned and tweaked from then all the way to Windows 11 now. Linux distros are all built on the main three Debian, Red Hat or SUSE and are just reworkings of those, and even those are reworkings of the versions that came before. Same with Apple's Unix OS's. It's about time someone started over from absolute _scratch_ and developed something _actually_ new. I seriously doubt that will happen - at least not for a long time - perhaps only after another major architecture shift. But one can dream.
What would be the benefit in making something brand new though? Unless there is some feature that is just impossible to implement in the Unix-like or Windows kernels, I don't see the reason to reinvent the wheel
@@kyonblack7901 Well for one, you can code them to work more efficiently with the newer CPU architecture - there's a reason Windows always struggles with any kind of mobile-based version of their OS and their ARM side isn't that great either - and that reason _is_ that old platform it's built on top of. It's bulky, chock full of junk code and translation layers just to get anything to work. And that means creating 'forks' of the OS is incredibly difficult. It's also why they keep breaking things every time they update it or when they went from 10 to 11 half the stuff that _worked_ in 10 suddenly didn't in 11 despite essentially being _the same OS_ . You can also make them much smaller in size and use far less RAM if you start from scratch and throw out all the crap that has built up over the years that you really no longer need. And finally and really most importantly - competition. Really, aside from Apple there is zero competition for Microsoft. And that is _not_ a good thing. For one it locks people in to dealing with _just_ them, and that means they can dictate whatever they want and we just have to take it. Like the changes over the years to Windows to remove your ability to customize it in any meaningful way. Or the fact they took what used to be an open DOS platform, made their own (copied it) then _forced_ everyone to adopt it and kill off the open side which permanently stifled development. Or Apple's control over what software/apps are even allowed onto their platform, and their anti-repair/upgrade attitude. Linux would count if it could ever get higher than a few percentage points of market share - but its biggest advantage is also its biggest weakness on that front and that is _too many forks_ and not enough focus and therefore development on one single distro. And the average consumer doesn't want to have to deal with all that, they want to purchase one thing and it just works. Most people these days don't want to mess around in command lines or have to use emulators or translation software just to get a handful of games to work. It's getting better on that front but it's just nowhere near there yet. And it's been that way for literally decades. And honestly, any OS that allows the world to get away from the .exe file format - and therefore Microsofts ownership of that entire space, is a _great_ thing.
Fvck yeah! Definitely grabbing an ally as I have an xg mobile already. I really really really hope they don't gatekeep the z1 extreme version here in canada like their other products.
If you play only controller supported games the ally is perfect for you... otherwise the battery life is worse and so are the inputs, which matter alot. You cant play mouse n keyboard games
The 3rd party handhelds would have to create their own service like steam, or find a way to get some profits from the services that are supported on their devices. Like they get X% for allowing xbox cloud, or steam cloud. Or change their product type from generic handhelds to niche feature packed stuff. Otherwise, I don't have much motivation to not buy 1st party when its cheaper and runs the games better and easier
The solution is easy. Someone needs to partner with Microsoft to make the Gamepass Deck. Maybe do something like the Amazon Kindle does with ads and have two versions. One version that comes with a Gamepass membership, and for like $200 more sell a second version that doesn't require a Gamepass membership. This way the hardware devs have a game service infrastructure to help offset the cost so they don't need to get the cheapest parts they can find, and Microsoft makes a fortune just on licensing Gamepass without the risk of flopping in the oversaturated handheld market or making money for Nintendo by letting the Switch have Gamepass.
I realy think that when ps6 will come out, it will have a "regular" console version and a handheld version, which will be a bit weaker. Kibd of like xbox series x and s.
I personally thing having a couple of brands on the market is a good thing. It pushes company's to release quality due to competition. Just think about it for a sec. if the entire market belonged to one company they could dish out just a bunch of crap and we would buy it because.... It's crap or its nothing at all.
If Nintendo releases the switch 2, it's game over man. They've positioned themselves in such a way that people who don't know about these other companies are just going to call it a bigger switch or switch ripoff
no way, not too much of a good thing compatition is all ways good drives prices down and drives inovation foward ya some companies will not be able to keep up but overall it will spur things foward and drive prices down as companies compete with one another
As much as how better spec Allay is, running on window is just a no no, you don't know when it suddenly decides your control isn't working and force you to connect mouse and keyboard or restart. And how many window bullshit running background eat up your hardware that can't be turn off. Steam deck is definition of user friendly.
With the news Nintendo still has nothing to announce I'm starting to think they might miss the boat on handhelds they virtually created this market segment and they have just let it be taken over by more powerful systems the switch 2 only needs to be 1080p30-60frames handheld it's not that hard
I wouldnt mind a simple console that mirrors your pc or steam link to lay in bed for cheap and game The steamdeck is expensive when i can just jump on my pc and game, i know a phone can do this but a bigger screen would be nice
There are countless Laptop and Desktop gaming PCs. This is normal for PCs. Handheld gaming PCs are still PCs, they are not consoles. **Though they have console like ease of use features.
I really doubt a PSP3. They kinda have to force ps5 games onto that, if they wanna succeed. 3 years after ps5 launch. Without the developing software bring made to easily port to weaker hardware. Xbox kinda has the better setting for that, since it could be just as powerful as the series S, a Series S mobile, if you will. You don't need to port anything, since it's already ported onto that weaker hardware.
There's no reason for Xbox to make a windows Handheld when the ROG Ally and even the Steamdeck exist. I'm suspecting that Xbox is just gonna rely on 3rd party devices.
Most of the Handhelds are indie go go and are way too expensive. Also post purchase support and community is a big issue. Steam Deck has an awesome community and support, hence its is successful. I bet if Steam Deck 2 will start at around 500+ usd, people will buy it without giving a 2nd thought.
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Sony can do handhelds because they did it already. MS can do handhelds because they have the money to make the Xbox portable if they want. Steam I think should not make another handheld and just make the OS that can be used on any handheld, this way they will make all their money from games as they do now. Nintendo does not count because they are like Apple and are too closed off to join this party. All the handhelds that are the same is fine since that means more machines to run SteamOS on just like all the windows laptops, all the hardware is the same some just look nicer then the others but they all work the same way. If all the handhelds let you load SteamOS and/or MS Gamepass and/or SonyOS then you do not need Nintendo. If Nintendo losses in this race they will have to either open the walled garden or watch the garden die.
I want a steam deck like device with android and amoled screen. The Razer Edge is NOT it. Needs to be more powerful than Razer Edge and have a 16:9, 1080p oled.
Austin need brain workout pronto "more like the xbox series S..." ???, the new proccerer like 1.5 more than the steam deck last time i checked xbox series S 4.2TF
I don't think it counts as too much, since these expensive handhelds are still just niche. Switch and Steam Deck are the only ones that are mainstream, affordable, and accessible to people that don't want PC jank. If we get a portable Xbox or PS with its own OS, that would be the next one to make it big
It would be interesting to see if Xbox does release their own, they compete with Sony directly, but don't do everything the same, like adaptive triggers and the motion aim stuff. And since their PC, they can just leverage their cloud apps for now. I'm surprised a little Sony hasn't released a new one yet (since psp and vita), or maybe their taking notes for now?
@@syd417 Oh cool! I wouldn't be surprised with Xbox either, I heard they were trying to get their cloud app on nintendo. I know they're currently pushing in on TVs. My company is selling TV and controller bundles like hotcakes
Yeah, Sony and MS are the only ones with a real shot besides the two you mentioned. They can subsidize the price enough to make it attractive and they already have solid interfaces people are familiar with. Everyone else is just eating scraps until they give up and move on. AYANEO has a chance to hang around simply because they crowd fund and don't need to sell in huge volume. They fill the alternative niche just fine doing that.
"steam deck" this "rog ally" that back in my day we went outside and BUILT A DECK and stormed normandy with the ALLIES
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@@HearMeLearn I hate and love your username lmao
@@HearMeLearn you sound like the name your name sounds like lol
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I think we're getting into a good point with handheld. Competition should make products offer more at a lower price. I had a gpd win 1 and now there are way more options depending on needs
My gpd win 1 was a bittersweet experience. Sometimes, I loved it.
The deck tho? It's been a constant surprise. Not that much time has passed! So the market is FINALLY where I wanted it to be when I bought the Experia play! 😊😊😊
Thats what i said competition is always good It makes better handhelds and lower prices
As a Steam Deck owner i am happy about competition even though for me the deck is always the obvious choice.
The inputs alone sell the deck, there isn't a game I can't play, the ally is only better docked, otherwise the battery life is worse than the deck since it uses more power
Steam deck is better in a lot of ways
I’m so excited about the ways Valve decided to attack this problem. The future is bright for this device, and/or its successor IMO
I have a steamdeck and also just got my GDP win4. the steam deck has been great but it is super big to carry. The GDP win 4 is much smaller and and is windows portable and so far I am liking it almost as much as my steamdeck. I would love to see more Nintendo switch type devices that allow off-line play. I am tempted to check out the ROG Ally when it comes out. The new PSP that needs a data connection to play is a big no for me.
You can never have too many handhelds.
You, sir, are incorrect.
@@AnthonyELombardihow am I incorrect? It's always good to have many options for the consumer.
Shit speak for yourself. I have the steam Deck and I’m fine with it
@John-Paul Hunt in my opinion Xbox game pass is not really all that great I have it & I can’t really find any games I wanna play
Bruh I just clicked on the video to say the exact same thing. Thankkk youuuuu!
Handheld PCs are coming out. The Switch is still the only handheld console in the market (assuming you are not counting 3ds and Vita). Also why do people act as if handheld systems are some kind of a new concept. Handhelds have existed since the day of the Game & Watch. Gameboy, GBA, DS, 3ds, PSP, PS Vita, Game Gear, etc. all exist.
steam deck is just as much of a console as the switch. It ticks literally every box that a console does. Does the fact that the ps2 and ps3 could have linux installed make them PCs now and not consoles?
@@HearMeLearn except the official website itself states that Steam Deck is a handheld PC. Valve have no where used the word console. Also Steam is a PC digital store. And the Steam Deck does not restrict you to one store like PlayStation, Nintendo and Xbox. Steam Deck officially allows installation of Windows, a PC OS. And the Deck runs PC versions of the games. So no, Steam Deck is a PC.
@@redring4083 your wrong opinion is yours to have my friend
Competition always benefits consumers. There should be MORE available fighting for dominance!
you can blame the way things are for microsofts early days of buy the competition.
Competition sometimes brings stuff like exclusive games. Not sure if this is better.
11:53 all of those cookies are actually Nabisco. That means that the cookies except Hydrox are mostly made with the same parts. They don't source flour for cookies from different vendors depending on the cookie it goes into. So it's actually more like the computer components than you think.
The single most important thing with these handhelds is support. With a switch you're pretty much guaranteed to have it from launch day to the day it is discontinued and usually a good few years beyond that. The only one that comes close so far is the steam deck in that way and honestly the only one I would trust again would be another switch or Nintendo type portable hybrid console.
Microsoft,Sony I don't know if I'd trust them especially Sony after the debacle with the Vita.
The handheld bubble is going to burst sooner rather than later.
Coming from their review of the Ally…feel like a time traveler!
Omg he said it, I've been talking about how Sony should push more into pc gaming, more of a store and not an os, but it adds to what I've been thinking and wanting forever now
I wish you're right about sony using z1 coz that's also where my logic leads to
Sony podla mna pouzije nejaky arm chip a k tomu android a bude to stream handheld alebo nieco ako Z1/custom APU a vlastny system. V podstate s takym vykonom aky ma Z1 extreme alebo aj Z1 by mohli pouzit system ps4/ps5 s malymi upravami. Alebo Vita 3000 O_o
I'm getting between 100 and 120 on the latest Star Wars game on my top end PC. Heck, my Win Max 2 got a steady 35 fps most of the time with a few dips and spikes.
The ally is a really tempting device for this price. It feels like the device the switch 2 should ve been. Would be interesting to see steam os running on the Asus competitor. ☮️
The inputs alone make it a trash device... and if people can't figure out why then they should stuck with there consoles
I think we have too many emulation based devices considering most sub $300 smartphones can emulate 75% of what there is to even emulate. Most people already have a capable device ready to go. Use an a console controller with a $20 clip or buy a Razer Kishi if you got the budget and save spending even more on a device, while also not having to carry around another. Streaming, pointless for many people so no opinion and it's pretty much available on everything with a screen. PC based gaming handhelds are still early, but I'm interested to see how fast we can transition and make it a common platform on the market.
Now we know, the Q Lite does SFA except remote play (and maybe cloud gaming in the future)..good work Sony.
It's actually raining outside while I watch this lol
The ayn odin is basically a perfect device. Wouldn't mind if it had a slightly more powerful processor, but aside from that, it's perfect.
Swap in a Snapdragon 870 (same processor as the Poco F3 and F4) and we're golden.
Maximum performance with minimal throttling.
I say the same about the steam deck, because of the power and inputs there isn't a game you can't play on it
No love for the PlayDate? It's a legitimate console, I swear.
That first “PSP” render was just the backbone PlayStation edition 😂
I legit agree with Microsoft needing to make an Xbox handheld that isn't just a cloud gaming device (but can cloud game). It would probably take over a good market share of the handheld space. The rest of the handheld market is far too niche, not enough support, and the steam deck will likely be the main squeeze for a long time coming for people who want to play pc games and do some cloud and retro gaming. Very few people comparatively want to be paying full budget pc price for handhelds, and likely already have good enough PCs and cloud gaming options already on hand (says guy with a switch, pc, xbox, ps4, and some retro handhelds)
When clamshells with oled?
Never .
Because Nintendo copyrighted the clamshell design
I'd rather see more handhelds than less handhelds...
See I want to buy a handheld but I don't know what to get Asus or steam Deck.
How many of these new handhelds are really that different in terms of games and hardware features, other than price of course.
Gpd win max 2 has an oculink port that blows thunderbolt 4 out of the water for egpu. Probably the best one if you have the money and can handle the form factor.
Many of them are not that different, I would argue it is better to think of them as closer to laptops than consoles. We can have too many consoles as that implies console exclusives, whereas I would argue you cannot have too many laptops as more laptops just means more competition which implies more innovation to give your own product an edge.
The best handheld overall is definitely the steam deck, anyone saying differently doesn't know shite about pc's
@@JDabz96 that's just wrong though. It's only better at being cheap. If you're someone who has more money than what to do with it (plenty of PC gamers it seems) there are objectively better options.
@@elirantuil5003 this device restricts you to controller only games on the go.... the input are horrendous, navigating windows with a joystick Is batshit.... and it's gonna have worse battery life than the deck unless you make the settings similar to the steam decks.... you people have smooth brains. This is just windows throwing money to compete with Linux, since Linux is a superior OS... they don't want to lose there monopoly... all the fucking bots in the chat
For me, i dont care about tripple AAA pc games, but retro emulation dam thats amazing! Playing gamecube and ps2 is pure joy 🤓
The Pony OS is hilarious
Competition is always good
Both next gen consoles failed to meet expectations. Switch and Steam Deck it is
What we need is a portable device that can allow users to buy game cards. That way games can be heavily optimized while also giving the users the ability to do normal pc stuff, like how the steam deck works but better
whatever comes next, it has to be as affordable as the steamdeck if you want wide adoption of hte device. It also needs to be AVAILABLE without pre-ordering, much like the PSP was back in the day. Plain and simple.
Eeeeh, not really. Very few are priced competitively anyways. The floodgates started with the steam deck due to its premise and options
Bring back the Nokia taco
All brands will kneel
lol. Watching this now when he said. There is no way this psp is going to be remote play only
I feel like despite all this, eventually people will just default to the established brands. Sony, Nintendo, Valve and MS are the only companies that can subsidize their products enough to make their handhelds attractive price wise. Everyone else is just flooding into a tiny niche market of $700-$1500 handheld PC's. Even if each brand has a gaming handheld, I feel Sony, MS and Valve would be all very similar to each other with Nintendo being the only one with enough unique software to be attractive.
I agree 100% valve is super trusted and helpful, there customer service alone is way better than rog
theres too many handhelds that nobody is buying exsept the switch yes that also includes steamdeck a sucsess for steam sure but barely 2 million units is tiny
anbernic puts out a new model every other week
Now I just want Oreos
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Yeah and the last time Sony tried to compete with Nintendo on the handheld side, they got kicked badly. The DS sold double of what the PSP sold and the 3ds slaughtered the Vita. Sony is best left making home consoles. There is a reason why Microsoft backed away from the handheld market. They were looking to make one back during the PSP and DS days.
Someone tell Matt PonyOS already exists... it’s called FreeBSD.
I definitely agree that it's about time for a brand new OS to be developed by _somebody_ that isn't just another Linux distro, or based on Windows or Apple's Unix-based OS. Like a brand new Unix-based would be fine I guess. But with the advancements of ARM chips, they really do deserve their own "built from the ground-up" OS that isn't associated with any of those other companies/brands. A big issue with a lot of them, is they are built _on top_ of previously existing OS architecture/code. Like Windows is really just 95/XP re-skinned and tweaked from then all the way to Windows 11 now. Linux distros are all built on the main three Debian, Red Hat or SUSE and are just reworkings of those, and even those are reworkings of the versions that came before. Same with Apple's Unix OS's. It's about time someone started over from absolute _scratch_ and developed something _actually_ new. I seriously doubt that will happen - at least not for a long time - perhaps only after another major architecture shift. But one can dream.
What would be the benefit in making something brand new though? Unless there is some feature that is just impossible to implement in the Unix-like or Windows kernels, I don't see the reason to reinvent the wheel
@@kyonblack7901 Well for one, you can code them to work more efficiently with the newer CPU architecture - there's a reason Windows always struggles with any kind of mobile-based version of their OS and their ARM side isn't that great either - and that reason _is_ that old platform it's built on top of. It's bulky, chock full of junk code and translation layers just to get anything to work. And that means creating 'forks' of the OS is incredibly difficult. It's also why they keep breaking things every time they update it or when they went from 10 to 11 half the stuff that _worked_ in 10 suddenly didn't in 11 despite essentially being _the same OS_ . You can also make them much smaller in size and use far less RAM if you start from scratch and throw out all the crap that has built up over the years that you really no longer need.
And finally and really most importantly - competition. Really, aside from Apple there is zero competition for Microsoft. And that is _not_ a good thing. For one it locks people in to dealing with _just_ them, and that means they can dictate whatever they want and we just have to take it. Like the changes over the years to Windows to remove your ability to customize it in any meaningful way. Or the fact they took what used to be an open DOS platform, made their own (copied it) then _forced_ everyone to adopt it and kill off the open side which permanently stifled development. Or Apple's control over what software/apps are even allowed onto their platform, and their anti-repair/upgrade attitude. Linux would count if it could ever get higher than a few percentage points of market share - but its biggest advantage is also its biggest weakness on that front and that is _too many forks_ and not enough focus and therefore development on one single distro. And the average consumer doesn't want to have to deal with all that, they want to purchase one thing and it just works. Most people these days don't want to mess around in command lines or have to use emulators or translation software just to get a handful of games to work. It's getting better on that front but it's just nowhere near there yet. And it's been that way for literally decades.
And honestly, any OS that allows the world to get away from the .exe file format - and therefore Microsofts ownership of that entire space, is a _great_ thing.
with new amd APU and 100WH battery with 100W+ fast charging
Just hacked my 3DS. Mega Man Zero be fire
LINUX TYRANNY 😂😂😂
Fvck yeah! Definitely grabbing an ally as I have an xg mobile already.
I really really really hope they don't gatekeep the z1 extreme version here in canada like their other products.
If you play only controller supported games the ally is perfect for you... otherwise the battery life is worse and so are the inputs, which matter alot. You cant play mouse n keyboard games
Where is that cactus shirt from ?
When are we going to get "Building the ultimate ROG Ally"?
The 3rd party handhelds would have to create their own service like steam, or find a way to get some profits from the services that are supported on their devices. Like they get X% for allowing xbox cloud, or steam cloud. Or change their product type from generic handhelds to niche feature packed stuff. Otherwise, I don't have much motivation to not buy 1st party when its cheaper and runs the games better and easier
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All these options pissed off Nintendo 😂😢 RIP Skyline
I have never seen more people yelling than steam deck owners speaking about competition
my guy said 720, what an insult to consumers everywhere.
The solution is easy. Someone needs to partner with Microsoft to make the Gamepass Deck. Maybe do something like the Amazon Kindle does with ads and have two versions. One version that comes with a Gamepass membership, and for like $200 more sell a second version that doesn't require a Gamepass membership. This way the hardware devs have a game service infrastructure to help offset the cost so they don't need to get the cheapest parts they can find, and Microsoft makes a fortune just on licensing Gamepass without the risk of flopping in the oversaturated handheld market or making money for Nintendo by letting the Switch have Gamepass.
We need a PSP 2
I realy think that when ps6 will come out, it will have a "regular" console version and a handheld version, which will be a bit weaker. Kibd of like xbox series x and s.
Redbull Spon?
I personally thing having a couple of brands on the market is a good thing.
It pushes company's to release quality due to competition. Just think about it for a sec.
if the entire market belonged to one company they could dish out just a bunch of crap and we would buy it because.... It's crap or its nothing at all.
Rip Skyline
Sony don't fk this up. We don't want a tablet for cloud service. We want a true handheld systems and people are willing to pay now $400 to $600.
If Nintendo releases the switch 2, it's game over man. They've positioned themselves in such a way that people who don't know about these other companies are just going to call it a bigger switch or switch ripoff
no way, not too much of a good thing compatition is all ways good drives prices down and drives inovation foward ya some companies will not be able to keep up but overall it will spur things foward and drive prices down as companies compete with one another
Too many of thees
As much as how better spec Allay is, running on window is just a no no, you don't know when it suddenly decides your control isn't working and force you to connect mouse and keyboard or restart. And how many window bullshit running background eat up your hardware that can't be turn off. Steam deck is definition of user friendly.
It would be fire if the new PS portable will run linux with new sony pc store overlay xD
With the news Nintendo still has nothing to announce I'm starting to think they might miss the boat on handhelds they virtually created this market segment and they have just let it be taken over by more powerful systems the switch 2 only needs to be 1080p30-60frames handheld it's not that hard
I just want a PSPXXL.
i have ps vita.. and 2 switch..
I wouldnt mind a simple console that mirrors your pc or steam link to lay in bed for cheap and game
The steamdeck is expensive when i can just jump on my pc and game, i know a phone can do this but a bigger screen would be nice
So ayaneo needs to start making exclusive games lol
Or their own software, yes.
PS Vita Q + PS VR 2
There are countless Laptop and Desktop gaming PCs. This is normal for PCs.
Handheld gaming PCs are still PCs, they are not consoles.
**Though they have console like ease of use features.
Anbernic 35xx for 65 bucks is probably one of the best purchases I've made
I really doubt a PSP3. They kinda have to force ps5 games onto that, if they wanna succeed. 3 years after ps5 launch. Without the developing software bring made to easily port to weaker hardware.
Xbox kinda has the better setting for that, since it could be just as powerful as the series S, a Series S mobile, if you will. You don't need to port anything, since it's already ported onto that weaker hardware.
But windows also have Gamepass, the surface handheld is not that bad
Yall are overhyping this PS Handheld
Hydrox came before Oreo
Thought this was gonna be about emulators
Wow I'm early to a This Is video? Last time I came this early I became a father.
Who is disliking this? I wonder what they were thinking about when they were pressing that button
There's no reason for Xbox to make a windows Handheld when the ROG Ally and even the Steamdeck exist.
I'm suspecting that Xbox is just gonna rely on 3rd party devices.
Most of the Handhelds are indie go go and are way too expensive. Also post purchase support and community is a big issue.
Steam Deck has an awesome community and support, hence its is successful. I bet if Steam Deck 2 will start at around 500+ usd, people will buy it without giving a 2nd thought.
To me the price of the Steam Deck doesn't matter.
What matters to me is what you DON'T get for the price:
An OLED screen. 😑
LCD looks like garbage. 🤮
No
Bro red bull can kill you if you use it like that to often I now a couple people in my town that died drinking that and monster burn that shit out in the gym if you drink it but sitting and taking in that amount of energy is extremely bad for you heart
Please bring back Kyle
Sony can do handhelds because they did it already. MS can do handhelds because they have the money to make the Xbox portable if they want. Steam I think should not make another handheld and just make the OS that can be used on any handheld, this way they will make all their money from games as they do now. Nintendo does not count because they are like Apple and are too closed off to join this party. All the handhelds that are the same is fine since that means more machines to run SteamOS on just like all the windows laptops, all the hardware is the same some just look nicer then the others but they all work the same way. If all the handhelds let you load SteamOS and/or MS Gamepass and/or SonyOS then you do not need Nintendo. If Nintendo losses in this race they will have to either open the walled garden or watch the garden die.
I want a steam deck like device with android and amoled screen. The Razer Edge is NOT it. Needs to be more powerful than Razer Edge and have a 16:9, 1080p oled.
Handheld microwave
Save your money buy and Ayn Odin and wait till pc handhelds are worth the price that will run current and future games.
Nintendo Switch is the only one I can afford, very affordable here in the Philippines 😅😊
Also yeah... PC Ports and pc gamers mostly are getting such a disrespect. 30fps locked?! Get out of here! Your fired
Alright it plays Ps4 games but it streams ps5 games from the console. Simple
That could works honestly!
Ye ye
psp on top
Austin need brain workout pronto
"more like the xbox series S..." ???, the new proccerer like 1.5 more than the steam deck last time i checked xbox series S 4.2TF
To think they think sony considers xbox a problem 🤣
Me watching this video with a broken PSP and a DS Lite:
I don't think it counts as too much, since these expensive handhelds are still just niche. Switch and Steam Deck are the only ones that are mainstream, affordable, and accessible to people that don't want PC jank. If we get a portable Xbox or PS with its own OS, that would be the next one to make it big
It would be interesting to see if Xbox does release their own, they compete with Sony directly, but don't do everything the same, like adaptive triggers and the motion aim stuff. And since their PC, they can just leverage their cloud apps for now. I'm surprised a little Sony hasn't released a new one yet (since psp and vita), or maybe their taking notes for now?
@@slaternapier1640 Playstation announced recently that they are coming out with one. I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox makes one to compete.
@@syd417 Oh cool! I wouldn't be surprised with Xbox either, I heard they were trying to get their cloud app on nintendo. I know they're currently pushing in on TVs. My company is selling TV and controller bundles like hotcakes
Yeah, Sony and MS are the only ones with a real shot besides the two you mentioned. They can subsidize the price enough to make it attractive and they already have solid interfaces people are familiar with. Everyone else is just eating scraps until they give up and move on. AYANEO has a chance to hang around simply because they crowd fund and don't need to sell in huge volume. They fill the alternative niche just fine doing that.
Asus Rog will be Mainstream
Switch and Steam deck are the two best in my opinion
They are definitely the most popular but not the best
Can confirm i have both and it been amazing, cant wait for the ROG ALLY. 🎉
Steam deck is definitely the best all around, inputs and customization alone make the ally look like a joke l
@@JDabz96 not really lol.
@@JDabz96 can you explain whats the problem with inputs and customization on rog ally?