Advanced DJ Techniques - Double Drops
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2016
- In this video Arman walks you through how to line up two tracks to drop at the same time, to build more energy, mix in a track in a more creative way, and end up multi-tracking two tracks after the double drop.
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If you already know what to do, why even comment? Especially something negative. Just close the video. Nobody cares about your irrelevant comments. It's so easy to be negative on the internet when you don't have to look people in the eye...passive aggressive society I guess. For the love god, nobody cares about your vinyl days. Being a DJ is 90% track selection and reading a crowd. Nobody dancing is paying attention to how you are mixing. They are there to dance and unwind after a long week, not to critique the DJ all night. Just have fun on whatever you're playing on, turntables, CDJ's, controllers. It's all about the music at the end of the day.
some people want to build on the skills they already have
Agreeing completely! I also use a controller and I would not want to be judged by what I am working with. These "skilled DJ's" are, in fact, way too old-fashioned
because wrong information is being provided to innocent begineers.. Those basslines are battling it out.. So much phasing going in there
dude it dint even double drop one track started early and the other started at 08:26 wtf really if u make a tutorial make it right...advance my ..
Kevin Stucki I thought your comment was pretty weak. Real RUclips commenters ought to have something negative to add to the conversation. You failed pretty hard. Probably should give up commenting on RUclips since you can't hack it.
Dude, you opened my eyes. I have so many tracks that I could mix in this way, but instead I always resort to mix it in two phrases after the drop and then punch the new bass in. This is so much more interesting to build! I'm gonna practice this now, thank you so much for demoing this transition!
Great video.
I don’t understand the hate on loop and other technology. Although I was brought up 20+ years on vinyl and still believe in learning fundamentals, BUT any technology that makes things easier for DJs to make tighter mixes and move the crowd, why not take advantage of it? It really opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Complaining about this is like wanting to use a walkie talkie over a smart phone.
This was a really informative and easy to follow video. Thanks for sharing I’m looking forward to incorporating the technique.
I love doing this
Really gets the crowd going
Great video mate I used to do these double drops a lot but because I didn't always check the songs together first it either went really well or really wrong lol
Ive Been doin double drops from the beginning and didnt even realise it thank you for this vid and hope to see more in the future...I mix Drum N Bass /Jungle and double dropping is amazing
me too but its hard to align them thats why i search techniques
@@alexanderangelkov6338 with dnb i always set hot cues 16 bars before drop on every single track. cue 1 on first beat cue 2 16 in cue 3 16 bars after is 8/10 the drop dnb is always either 32bar drop or 48 so u can always hit it on time matching your cues. this is what i do and it improved me by 200%
Thanks i found this helpful another trick i can add to my toolkit.
even though this is not real double dropping. I found this video extermely helpful and it helped me alot!
i have mixing since late 80 only for myself.and still love it.Love this type of mixing first track just dropped, but in reality the actual drop comes a bit later and from the second track.
I love it. Thanks for your tutorials !!
Hey first video I've seen of yours .. this video is so helpful, don't change a thing you can see and hear everything your doing and explained in great detail.
Keep the videos coming and I've just subscribed 😀 well done fella
Great bit of mixing and although I'm only just starting out (more for my pleasure than anyone elses LOL) its gonna help me move forward.
Love all these genre's but to me it's all house. great tip great video
If you know your tunes well enough and understand how they are composed, its just a case of simple arithmetic to work out when to knock a tune in so the drop hits exactly when you want it to.
Right I need to get pair these 💨 some nice tunes in back round great stuff indeed
Nice work! Thanks for sharing.
Nice technique! I like it!
cool triple drop: hedex: forever, dj hazard: mr happy, pleasure: popcorn.
dimsin: generator and dimension: whip slap
Yeaaaaa i know that mix pretty hard
The clip of this from univerz festival is what got me wanting to start mixing😍
Freestyler dnb mix, culture shock bunker. those are dope
thank you so much for the video bro! =)
Nice! I would suggest doing direct audio via your mixer, would make for a cleaner sound in the video, if possible. Very informative video though man, cheers!
Not bad. The only critique I have is learn your bar count instead of how long a break measures in inches using a waveform. Back in the days of just vinyl, there was no visual aid (except for seeing the grooves on the vinyl) and you were forced to really beat match and play with your ears. That's what you want to master, and you'll know right off the top of your head if a break is 4, 8, 16, 32, or 64 bars with your ears, not your eyes. Then, with that in mind, you'll have a better use of your beat FX using those parameters since you adjust the FX parameters based on bar counts. Other than that, not too shabby.
This is very easy to do in VirtualDJ because u has stacked waveforms.
Excellent, have fun ✌️
Just an important tip., if you start the "hot since 82" track right on time (watch out with bar sync), you dont need to enable a loop on first track, to sync the both drops.
Thanks for the video.
Ignore the haters. Thanks for the video.
great video!
Hot Since 82
Nicely done bro
Nice vid. Cool tunes too.
Triple drop! One for each track and the third for the nose.
Nice .. I like it .. Thank _You
Hey, I just found you -- subbed -- watched a few videos, quite a bit of fun.
Just a question, what genres do you mix? I notice you are primarily mixing deep house.
switching bass lines every phase is fun and sounds cool as fuck most of time
8 bars
@@fredtheman211never have i ever, thanks 🤙
@@skaterzero07 On reflection wouldn't do this now. Might be a bit confusing for the dance floor. Sound cool in a live stream though Maybe???
At no point do you mention 16, 32 or 64 bar sections..
counting and working out the math is surely better than just guessing, looping and hoping for the best!!!
Doing it by ear is more independent, it's harder, but it makes people a better DJ. Knowing the music, parts of the song and most of all timing. He got it down
@@playboybunny408 absolutely agree.. A Dj should be able to pick up on where a track is at by ear and a glance at the waveform if necessary which this guy can do.. Counting bars is just boring if nothing else
@@eoinforan6845 Yeah..I'm just not a count or bar guy. I go more by ear, but most of all, I gotta learn how the song plays.
Not everyone has the benefit of seeing a waveform of the track on their CDJ's so counting bars would be the best way. Also he clearly doesn't know the music inside out because he sounded a little surprised when he realised he had got it.
There's better double drops tbh. These tracks aren't well known and sound too similar imo. The reason why double drops are so cool is so you can hear two tracks you know well and flip out why our hear them mashed together. 2 many DJ's are some of the best at making you go wtf! Dolly Parton and Royksopp!? It works because you have heard them before but never thought they could sound so good together.
nice tip man
wow really fucking sick man, you had a groove going
Could you give us a tracklist pls?:)
I use the double drop in 90% of my transitions but I do it without mixing it in. I beat drop the second track right on the break. It's very risky because when I miss the mark it sounds like a train wreck but I can correct it in a second anyway. also playing alot if those japanese music video games(dj max) where u have to press the button on the mark helped me alot with beat dropping.
Simon Ng thats not mixing, thats being a glorified ipod. How much will your crowd enjoy you trainwrecking 2 drops together that dont even mix well? How many double drops or drop swaps can you do in a set without boring your crowd?
How about the low end collision? Should we allow one track’s low end to be the dominant & cut/lower the low on the other track?
Depends on the song. Sometimes they work well together, other times not.
Hey buddy, what speaker are u using? :o
I am a complete noob and never touch a DJ set before, but am very interested in how DJ always mixes songs in and so on. To what I see from this video, to put it simple, it is just getting the timing right for the double drops? It's like "oh, my first track is ending too quickly, I'll just loop it to delay it from ending and let the beat merge with the 2nd track of the beat, and BOOM! You've just achieve double drops?"
ID of track at the left CDJ??
Yeah dude you make great music and I'm a kid who's 13 next month and if you can could you make a video on how to write your music plz if you can also where did you get your DJ mixing stuff from because I'm going to start making music? Love your videos.
WolfZies Molfies learn music theory, learn to play piano, then learn to write and read music. Then learn what a DAW is. Then once youve learned to make music in a DAW, then learn to DJ. Making music, making electronic music, and djing, are all completely different things.
DJ OnCoke!
What things can u do if track a has no more breaks at the end and track 2 no breaks at the beginning when you don't want to add any effects or filters? Do you just slowly switching the bass? For me it is quiet hard to do that clean and i need some more tipps or options for that if anybody knows what i mean, please help!
finally ur back i been failing big time on stage need yo help
haha i'm back. let me know what topics you guys want videos/tutorials on and i'll see what i can do!
OurManVarjMusic can you do something on deep house transitions and mixing
sure - anything more specific? mixing deep house is generally the same as mixing for any house/techno genre.
maedion gerrard
maedion gerrard how are you on stage and failing? do u just have a rich parent who pays for you to get gigs or what? cause I'm not knocking the dude in the video but if you are playing slots right now and you think this video is helpful you should not be on a stage. this is absolutely basic tips by all means. I don't even know what's so advanced about this. try timing 4 tracks out and switching between drops, using effects and scratching throughout. Then maybe I would consider it advanced. MAYBE. you should not be getting a stage slot with such basic knowledge.
Bro Why you have Loop it like that.....instead its better to use Hot cue.. Mark it 16 bars before the drop and and when the First track hit the point. Activate the hot cue on second track.. it will make your life easy.
That would require setting the hot cue before the gig. Can’t count 16 bars backwards on the fly.
actually you can, it jsut requires a lot of musical experience. musicians can "feel" when 32, 16, 8 etc. bars are left or have passed
it's just his work flow man, you can get the same effect with different methods.
@@dedalomusic As I musician a can say that this information here is accurate
when will you be getting both the CDJ-2000NXS2 and DJM-900NXS2 ?
Nice tutorial mate, I suggest learning the count of a song. Saying you know that the break down comes in about an inch after playing sounds too unprofessional over saying "I know the break comes in after a 16 count."
DACRUMB Well the inventor of that style is lord Jeff Mills and he does it withs style and its his thing (my opinion).. Luckily there are billions of events to go to so just choose another crew / soundsystem next time. I know one thing thats much worse. I happened to end up at a psy trance event three weeks ago and the dj:s were pointing to the sky in the drops every fuckin drop (in psy theres a lot of drops.....).
frank grimes and the good old "know your tunes". I mean a good DJ with experience usually doesnt just double drop two tunes together that he/she isnt too familiar with.
YESSSSSSSS
Great videos, thanks. A question, how many decimals has the BPM in those CDJs? When you beatmatch, do you set the BPM value exactly the same? How many BPM difference the CDJs could handle to avoid beatmatching every 10 seconds?
What I often do is match the tracks until it is sufficient (they can ride for 30secs-60secs). If they are close enough, I actually prefer one frack SLIGHTLY slower (habit from my vinyl days because I’m more comfortable slowing the record down than nudge it forward without hearing the track momentarily go off tune). This way every time I hear a slight deviation I know to slow one track down. But after doing this for a long time the ear can pretty much intuitively feel which direction to manipulate the track.
Cheers!
@@gaddaitherage8204 So if I understood correct, the tracks are never going to be perfect matched in CDjs even if the BPM is exactly the same?
Alex G hello! Actually in modern technology, if you have the tracks at exact BPM to the 0.00 decimal (rekordbox allows up to 1/hundreds bpm), it will match perfectly enough for it to ride out the entire track.
But to your original question about variation, when I first switched over to digital I would mix without looking at visual aids, and get the records matched to a point that I’m comfortable working with. Generally it would allow me to not need to correct for 30-60secs. When I finally look at the bpm displayed, I find that it is within about 0.1 to 0.2 variation.
I hope this isn't a super advanced technique for a DJ
the title - "Advanced DJ Techniques - Double Drops"
It's not lol just most youtube videos are for complete beginners. If you're looking for real advanced dj tutorials you're gonna have to look elsewhere than on youtube.
It’s not, look at James Hype he does advanced stuff
@@atypicaltracks any reccomended resource bro?
@@kevintanjaya308 For sure! There’s a bunch of different courses you can buy online, a friend of mine tried the crossfader dj course and really enjoyed it! I think club ready dj school also has a really good course worth checking out.
great video but i liked the bird perspektive of the camera more ;)
it looks like it would be so much easier to see the wave on the laptop. And u can put que points to know when to start playing the deck B. i think the important thing here is to play 2 tracks in the same KEY
I'm a DJ I was wondering if you use other songs. eg c.h.e.a.k by Danny Avila or something like ghost by Oliver heldens?
IMHO the best way to mix tracks
Arman! About how advanced should someone be before they pick up a pair of those cdjs you’re using?
Not a bad little tutorial but an even better tutorial would be to a set from DJs such as Randall, Mampi Swift or best of all, Andy C.
Hey, I love your videos, but sincerely it would be better if you kept using subtitles. I mean, for non-native English speakers it's easier to understand and you may help many more people in this way. By the way, I'd really like to see some quick-mixing or mashuping tips and tutorials like about acappellas, cue points, song "slamming" (I suppose it's called so, but I'm not sure) and a bit of effects. I mean, using them for real purpose and not just to chill between the transitions. Thank you for your time and sorry for the eventual grammatical mistakes
What speakers are you using bro ?
if you know how a track is build you don't need to use your loop function ;)
This is just mixing two tracks together
Lets see you do it then champ
Interesting. So you're able to do double drops on the fly without any pre-arrangement? Seems like you're having to do some guessing and hope that you get it right. If you're looping one track to hold it back a little bit, you better not loop it too much or two little.
cool, so next question: how do you fade out of the track on left, leaving only the track on the right, without it feeling empty? cuz now you've had the right track play only with the left track backing it...
I teach that you treat track B as submissive and track A as dominant via the volume and eq controls. As the double drop progresses into itself you're going to systematically transfer the dominance via the volume and eq controls to be on the opposite. As the first track becomes submissive and less up front, start treating that tune as a support instrument instead of a track
how do you not get copyright claims on your videos? thanks
This dude has incense on his desk, that is awesome
What type of double drop has beat playing when you start mixing? Do that when neither of the breakdowns have ANY beat playing by using just your ears to count the bars and beatmatching. This was really just a regular mix and not really a double drop.
Wont the sub bass from both tracks interfere ?
First track (track on left deck)?
Hanz Saaen Veerus and Maxi Devine- The Peacemaker (original mix)
Honza Fedasko aka Dj Hanz Saaen more like the 2nd tracks what?! n wtf aren't they in the description?! smh any ways since the other dude gave ya an innacurate IDID I'll fix that for ya with correct track ID. is
maxie devine & veerus - the peacemaker. & i can't make out wtf he said the 2nd track B was????
2nd tracks Hot Since 82 - Play The Room (Original Mix)
@@Richardplays146 da real legend
glad i dont have to be friends with all the people commenting below
In which key are these songs?
i think its very rare that one could do this with big room music
Burhan Asmar its do able, just need to find tracks that blend together. And make sure your eqing is adjusted to allow room for the sounds you want.
Dude, it's not that difficult. I do it regularly on vinyl.
It's funny that we have the same name
C cool
djdo
Where do you find your music?
what's your setup?
Where R u from ?
where have you been?
Haha. Been working a lot on original production. I'm back - more videos to follow!
great vid but try to get a better view of the faders and eq so I can see what you're doing better!
I really want to know how to get from electro house/ house to Trap tracks :)
sl1kKx start the trap track right after the drop of the electro track. Or sync the trap track to the electro track, have them both lined up to drop at the same time, and during the buildup bring the master tempo track back up to the trap tracks original tempo right before the drop then kill the electro track. Be creative. Set a loop on both and bring the bpm up to trap speed works too.
I like EDM XD
Mixing into hip hop is about scratching or a nice effect into the beat.
My program!! |/:).
really nothing advanced... if you wanted to do it the right and more reliable way is to just know the basics of your bars beats and counts rather than judging the size of the wave form.... just my opinion
yea ur right but a advance guide sounds better than just a guide (clickbait)
Are you suggesting that a dj should perfectly memorise the structure of every song in his/her library? There’s nothing wrong with looking at a fucking waveform.
Sorry, can anyone tell me the name of this device? (not a native speaker, still adding words to my vocabulary) Thanks!
Rocio c the CD players are called; decks or CDJs and other thing is a mixer.
Saying it will drop an inch a way on the wave length is a very unprecise way to count beats. Tracks of different lengths will not be the same number of inches on the wave from. + you should be able to count beats and just drop a track 16 or 32 bars before the drop for the same effect. If you use a software like traktor for example mixing techniques like this are not advanced. They are literally the simplest way to mix tech house etc. Not hating. Just there are far more detailed and well explained tutorials on youtube for the same effect and maybe watching these before producing an ill informed tutorial would have been wise.
Can you do this with vinyl? and if so how?
Mixing on vinyl is a completely different skill set. You can't sync or use loops to bail yourself out. Everything had to be done by ear.
On vinyl, what he is doing here is just called mixing two records together, and there is nothing particularly special about it. My vinyl transitions regularly run for several minutes.
Back in the 90s, (before CDJs) nobody took you very seriously if you couldn't stretch your transitions out for at least a minute.
Please what is the track un cdj A OR LEFT
Michael Salazar Veerus and Maxi Devine- The Peacemaker (original mix)
LIVE REMIX KIND OF IDEA. no bro. its just djing.
Beat jump and cue points are your friends
What Are the 4 blue buttons? Effects?
Steffer85 colour effects dub echo space filter don't remember the last one though
What's on deck B .. which track/artist is it
hash hot since 82 play the room
what contoller do u use?
Shenaj do those look like controller's?
Stereoscopic | GFX 2 decks (players) and mixet
2× cdj 2000 nxs2's and a djm900 nxs2
geiler drop, hätte reverb echo noch genommen ;-)
What’s the equipment in this video ?
CDJ 2000 and DJM 800
You shouldn't burn incense next to your decks, smoke is a big killer of electronics
Show
VINYL!!!!!!
What cdj are you using
MrDjmurdock he's using Cdj 2000s
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