JMGO N1 Ultra...was it worth the wait?
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2023
- I supported the Kickstarter campaign for the JMGO N1 ULTRA with hopes this would be the projector I would finally be satisfied with...was it worth the wait?? OH YEAH!
at approx. 17:10 I say best blacks I have seen out of any projector...I was speaking to the newer laser and led 'lifestyle' type projectors.
00:01 - surprise, surprise...its finally here with no tracking number or signature required
00:22 - unboxing starts
04:12 - remote control
04:44 - JMGO N1 itself
05:40 - shelf mount until the ceiling mount gets here
06:20 - initial set up and fit to screen feature
07:24 - projector settings
09:35 - picture memory
11:30 - no setting for default HDMI
13:30 - RUclips videos
16:50 - black levels
19:26 - horsies in the winter...
20:30 - 3D demo
21:10 - summary and final thoughts 
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AMAZING review and commentary, the opening was nice too! Thank you!
Thanks Johan... I appreciate the kind words and feedback...I love doing these videos, especially when others enjoy them too👍
I am a backer too. Still waiting for the projector to arrive in Australia. Thanks for the video. Really appreciated.
My pleasure Praveen, glad you enjoyed it! I know you will absolutely love it once you get it🎉
Thank you very much for your detailed review, JMGO hopes the N1Ultra will give you an impressive experience！🥰🥰🥰
It's my pleasure...this is the best projector I have ever owned hands down!
When the N2 is released, please keep me in mind for a review unit😂
@@OlyGoalie67 Must do!😆 enjoy your viewing experience before N2 released, JMGO Team wishes you a great day！
I'm a fellow kickstarter backer & happy owner of the N1-U.
Thanks for your review, & I'm glad to see that you & I both received our N1-Us without any major issues.
Thanks J, I appreciate the time you spent watching the video and also for the sub as well. I look forward to continued conversation on the Kickstarter page and I hope that my comment on the button with the three lines helped for a little quicker access to the picture modes etc.
@@OlyGoalie67 How were you able to buy it on the kickstarter page? I tried but I just got this back this up and it wasnt giving me an option to buy.
Nice review. I got mine a couple weeks ago, and love it. Nothing bad to say about it myself. I doubt anyone would be unhappy with this projector.
Thanks Dave, for the time watching my video and nice comments and I agree, this one is pretty hard not to love I think!
What about the laser speckle? Is it noticeable?
@@robinlemvik3246 Depends on the screen I have heard. I use a Elite Screens Manual B white with 1.1 gain, and do not notice it. I might just not notice it.
@@DaveNLR2 maybe it’s just on grey screen then?
@@robinlemvik3246 Possibly. On AVSFORUM they tested several different screens with varying results. The best, was a plain painted white wall. Go figure. Ive tested it on my ceiling, and not noticed any speckle either. Im also am WAY over the 1.2 throw ratio, and zooming down the image to fit my screen. The correct placement distance for this projector would put it in my lap. I have it 12' away on a shelf until I can get a ceiling mount and optical hdmi cable installed.
I will be doing an update video in the next few days but I have ordered a new camera to try for higher video quality...so keep an eye out and thanks for watching my videos👍
I purchased one from Amazon and received it yesterday. It is the nicest projector I’ve ever had. I’ve purchased almost all 4K projector’s that Amazon has for sale in the picture on this one will completely blow you away. No video can truly justify how good the picture is.
Couldn't agree more Paul...against last night I was looking at some of those Dolby 4k videos on RUclips and was completely blown away. There is no better projector on the market right now when it comes to tri laser or LED for that matter and like you, I have literally seen them all.
How bout compared to xgimi horizon pro I know the jmgo is brighter
@@JAYJAY1787 there is absolutely no comparison. The Horizon was my favorite of all the projectors I had tried but suffered from low light, poor HDR performance and overall weak picture on anything that had any level of darkness in the scene. The JMGO N1 absolutely out performs the Horizon on every level except for the remote...I still feel the Horizon remote control is the best out there.
@@JAYJAY1787 there really is no comparison, not even in the same league.
@@OlyGoalie67 Thank you I just purchased an ALR screen it's beautiful and is designed for far projection and I need a brighter projector and the jmgo would be perfect, I did buy an Epson ls500 that's super bright and is Lazer tv category however I didn't even think about it all the way through do to have kids that tend to knock things over, I never experienced the issues you had with the xgimi horizon pro could you have gotten a defective model? I used Android natively to run apps like moviebox pro , stremio and iptv apps like nextTv or tivimate and lastest I'm using sparkletv iptv player all run fine and picture quality is awesome, but like I mentioned I need something brightter that isn't a ultra short throw like the Epson I just purchased
Hey Todd, thanks for the detailed video. Now I'm even happier that I was part of the Kickstarter campaign. This is my first projector. Can you tell me what kind of screen you use? Is it a high contrast screen, daylight screen or something else entirely? Thanks!
Hi there, you will love it. I am using a DIY screen with material from Carl's Place...it's their Flexi White screen material.
Watching John Wick Chapter 4 right now and I am completely blown away...it is like an OLED except massive👍
How was the movie? :)
@@mmanda515 it was an amazing movie, I am a big fan of the John Wick movies...but more importantly, the N1 picture was INSANE!
@@OlyGoalie67 Awesome to both! Thanks & enjoy!
Thanks for the review. Do you notice the rainbow effect on your unit? (if you are susceptible to it) If yes, how noticeable is it? I've seen a few comments on the Kickstarter campain page about this. Thanks
It is very minimal almost non negotiable but it is there on occasion and is a side affect of DLP but both rainbow and speckle do nothing to tarnish how amazing this projector is at least for me and everyone in my family who has watched it.
@@OlyGoalie67 Thanks for your feedback. Very glad to hear that.
Thanks for the video, I have this projector but need a screen, what would you recommend? I have quite a bit of ambient light during the day.
That's a tricky one as some say the ALR screens show more speckle but are better with some light in the room. In other comments, I mentioned I am using a DIY Carl's Place Flexi White screen material and it looks amazing as I watch the hockey game right now. Problem with ALR screens also is size is limited to 120" I believe whereas I am able to have a 138" screen and could go bigger as well. I wish I could say I have see ln the N1 on an ALR screen so I could give you better advice...sorry.
Good 👍 review
Thanks, much appreciated and thanks for watching!
Todd, thanks so much for the video it was brilliant, concise, and just what I was looking for. You made it so easy to follow. Hopefully, I will get mine delivered to the UK soon. After you posting about Avatar 3D, I pre ordered the Way of Water 3D. Robert
Thanks for the nice words buddy, I appreciate it very much. I hope you get your quick as this N1 really is a beast and you are going to love it👍 I am on the same boat with the pre order on WOW 3D...can't wait for that one! Thanks for the sub and right back at you😀
Hi Todd. I have got the N1 ultra too. Did you say you have had the Dangbei mars pro and found this better? I love the brightness and colours on the N1, but the speckle sometimes makes the image a bit noisy. I'm thinking the lack of rainbow and speckle might make for a better image overall on the dangbei. Might get one to compare...
Hi Adam, I highly prefer the N1...the Dangbei Mars Pro was my first laser projector I tried when I started into this finding a new projector business. I liked it for sure but I felt that the brightness wasn't there, the 3D didn't work great and at that time I still had my Epson 5050UB so it was too much of a difference in contrast so I returned the Dangbei. Since then I have gone through another 5 or 6 projectors with the N1 being the best buy far. I still see some speckle but it is so rare that it does nothing for ruining this amazing experience.
Seems like you are in a basement or room with controlled lighting. Is there enough brightness on the projector to compensate for a room with ambient light, such as mine that has 6ft windows in it.
By far this is the brightest projector I have used and without question would be fine with ambient light...even if you weren't using an ALR screen. In fact, I made another comment where this projector is so bright I think it would be an ideal fit for Dolby Vision and even the few 3D movies I have viewed were blazingly bright.
Todd for reference what type of screen, size,and gain? Thx David
David, it's 138" DIY Carl's Place Flexi White material...bit sure if they even mention a gain on their website but your welcome to take a peek👍
Where do I order the ceiling mount for it?
I ordered mine during the Kickstarter campaign but you could email after-sales@jmgo.com to see if they can help.
Im wondering if this projector can be upgraded to Dolby Vision since it is a triple laser projector that supposedly covers the REC 2020 color gamut specification.
It can be as the processor used has the ability...in fact we are trying to get JMGO to start a 'bonus' backup of adding Dolby Vision as an extra campaign for a small amount of money to help pay for the licensing.
@@OlyGoalie67 So if I'm understanding you correctly, technologically the N1 Ultra is capable of achieving Dolby Vision certification thru a firmware upgrade as long as the company is willing to go thru the licensing process?
@@brucesmith1754 correct...JMGO had mentioned it in a previous comment in the Kickstarter campaign chat session and now they have said they would run it past the appropriate department but you can take that with a grain of salt but I would love to see that happen. I said I would be willing to pay up to $200 bucks to activate that feature.
It’s evident this is the best lifestyle projector, but how would you compare this to the epson ls12000?
Well I have not had an LS12000 in my room but I have had the LS11000 and back at that time I still had my 5050UB and the LS11000 didn't impress me enough to keep it over the 5050 and I returned the LS11000. That being said you can't compare a projector almost 2.5 times the price and expect parity. Just off of memory the N1 is sharper than the LS was, the screen uniformity is equal or better than the LS was, the colors are definitely spectacular (back to my comments on Quantamania, it literally left me speechless) but the one thing any DLP projector will not compare to against an Epson is contrast and black levels. That being said this N1 is the closest I have seen to matching an Epson, certainly close enough that in no way do I regret my choice or miss my Epson in any way.
Most projectors have a 1.3 Zoom to a fixed lens which determines the distance allowed for a given screen size. Will this screen adjustment feature adjust to distance as well as image position. Rather than punching holes in my ceiling for a mount, I'd prefer to do what you did by mountin on my back wall which iis 17ft from a 100inch screen. My old projector had a 2.0 zoom lens which gave a range of 10 -20 feet to work with for my screen size. Will the JMGO adjust from the distances I mentioned? I think it has a fixed lens.
Hey Bruce...the N1 does have a digital zoom feature that will allow you to shrink the screen size digitally if you have to mount the projector too far from the 'ideal' spot or distance. That being said it really is no different than using the Fit to Screen feature. Before I used that feature, the overshot of the picture size was outside the screen on all four sides including overshooting onto my ceiling but once I did the auto adjustment, it for perfectly to the screen. I would estimate that I am loosing about 15% to 20% of the pixels by doing so. Ultimately using the ceiling mount to allow you to get the projector closer to your screen so the majority of the fit is done physically will be a much better result. I have to be honest though...I'm not sure I can even see the difference in what I have lost by using the digital zoom or fit to screen feature.
@@OlyGoalie67 Thanks for for this. I'm scouring the net for recent reviews. Yours is one of best so far.
@@brucesmith1754 appreciate the feedback and comments Bruce...have an awesome day 👍
@@OlyGoalie67 Wait... are you saying you can shrink it to fit screen WITHOUT having that light spill out al around? I have a Formovie X5 that I really like, but am considering return solely due to all the light spilling out on the sides due to placement.
@OlyGoalie67 I'm on VI also. Where are you. If I'm close I'd like to take a look. I'm considering this unit seriously to replace my BenQ.
Pls inform if you have encountered any laser speckle issues with this projector
I have mentioned that the speckle is minimal if any at all and is not an issue in my opinion...it is there, at least on my unit, but not really noticable.
Im going to say it...this N1 outperforms my Epson 5050UB in ever level...
What screen material do you have? I have really bad speckles on my unit using a light grey blackout cloth
Damien...I used material from Carl's Place-Flexi White. I ordered it from their online store and it worked great.
Great thorough video! Worth the $3200?
Thanks buddy...I got it during the Kickstarter campaign so I only paid about $1600 CAD for it...but at current retail it is still worth it... absolutely amazing projector...give it a bit of time as it may come down in price👍
@@OlyGoalie67 Ok, thanks for the advice!
@@ChefDez if you were ever going to buy a projector this is the one without question 👍
@@OlyGoalie67 Great, thanks!
Esse Projetor é fantástico e concorrente do formuvie X5 4k
C'est fantastique et ce n'est pas un concurrent mais c'est le leader... J'ai vu des comparaisons d'écran des deux et tout ce que j'ai vu montre de meilleurs niveaux de noir sur le N1. Comme je l'ai déjà dit plusieurs fois... J'ai possédé de nombreux projecteurs dans ma vie et chaque fois que je m'assieds et regarde ce projecteur JMGO N1, je vois quelque chose de différent qui m'époustoufle... hier soir, je regardais du 4k vidéos de démonstration sur RUclips à New York et j'étais sans voix.
It is fantastic and it is not a competitor but it's the leader...I have seen screen comparisons of both and everything I have witnessed shows better black levels on the N1. As I have said previously many times...I have owned many projectors in my life and every single time I sit down and watch this JMGO N1 projector I see something different that just blows me away...last night I was watching some 4k demo videos on RUclips on New York and I was speechless.
PS...I used Google translate so forgive me if the wording is not correct 😂
Sim da para ser traduzido de boa obrigado pela atenção e a resposta atual mente são 3 Projetores com um bom brilho e ótima qualidade que são o Dangbei Mars pro, Formuvie X5, JMGO N1 ULTRA os 3 Projetores São tops.
Is it a review unit or purchased from amazon
I mentioned a few times in the video and on some other replies in the comments section that I purchased the N1 on my own dime and all the review comments are my own and not coached by the manufacturer. This is a winner and that is all my own words👍
Also, I purchased it on the Kickstarter campaign 🙂
Please do a review... 3 month later or 6 month later review. I want to know how its long term performance many months later.
Hi Jerry, I plan on doing another updated video once my new camera arrives and I can hopefully reflect a more accurate video image than what my ZFold 4 was showing in low light...so keep an 3ye out for that one coming soon!
Just Wondering Where about do you live please?! I'm still waiting 😞
Sorry to hear that Joe...I am in BC Canada and got mine about two weeks ago..ish...I know it doesn't help but you will be so glad when you get it as this is amazing!
You mentioned you have minimal visible laser speckle only with certain colors/scenes? My unit as well as a few other ppl have mentioned theirs is very hard to NOT notice. It's not a huge deal breaker for me, but I did contact JMGO and they basically told me it was normal, which imo is NOT okay if there are units out there that have minimal to no speckle at all.
Hi Philip, it is very minimal but it definitely is there...whether it is 96% speckle reduction as advertised is hard to say but I was hoping there would be none. Partly so I could bug my brother in law who has an LG810 and suffers from big time sparkle but what can you do. As you mentioned it's not a deal breaker but I would have been happier with none😀
@@OlyGoalie67 Hi! So about speckls..Are they discomforting for you or its just a very minor issue? When you watch a movie are they clearly visible? Do your friends or relatives see them? Im going crazy right now because i live in a different country and if i buy this projector i cant return it, so im gathering as much information as i can. Thanks!
@@OlyGoalie67 this is probably the most honest answer I've heard. Thank you for the reply. Maybe it's just me because I know exactly what to look for and the fact that it is visible, but Like you said it would be nice to not have any at all.
I'm a backer & I have my N1-U. I can see speckle, but it is very minimal, & was rarely noticeable while viewing movies/videos.
I watched a movie over my uncles house without mentioning anything about speckle to him until the movie was over. He said he hadn't noticed anything wrong the image & was blown away by how impressive it was.
I would say that if you are hyper sensitive to speckle it may bother you. I am someone who pays attention to details, & the very minor speckle I've noticed isn't an issue for me. The brightness, colors & contrast of the N1-U more than make up for the minor speckle the I rarely & briefly noticed.
Hi! What kind of screen do you use?
Sounds like a really solid unit for the Kickstarter price. Maybe they will release another version with optical zoom and lens shift if this one sells well.
When is the last time you used the 5050UB? 1500:1 contrast is decent for single chip DLP but it shouldn't even be in the same universe as the 5050UB when it comes to black levels which is about 5000:1 calibrated.
When it comes to contrast and black levels there is not much out there that will touch the 5050UB without question. The N1 is the closest thing when comparing Xgimi Horizon, Dangbei 4K, Benq GP500 and X3000i...all of them. The difference is the N1 is sharper and more focused than the 5050UB and the color from the triple laser is far superior to the 5050UB...I loved my Epson 5030, 5040 and 5050 but it was time for a solid state and no bulb...so glad I made the choice.
I also had the Epson LS11000 but still wasn't overly impressed compared to the 5050 and that one was returned as well...the N1 will NOT disappoint 👍
@@OlyGoalie67 Right on. I currently have a few projectors but mainly use a 6050UB and a Vivitek HK2288 I snagged used to see how proper 4k looked in my theater.
I actually really like the Vivitek for gaming on PS5/PC despite it's higher latency, the detail is night and day from the 6050UB, but it's not that noticeable in most film. The picture is not that far off from a buddies Formovie Theater to me, I feel like the HK2288 may actually have more detail due to the higher resolution DMD chip, but the Formovie has better colors for sure (over 100% of 2020). The 6050UB allows me to mount it off to the side while the HK2288 has to be centered.
Movies are definitely more enjoyable to me on the 6050UB due to the much darker black levels. The HK2288 is not bad for DLP though, I measured it around 1900:1.
If the N1 Ultra goes on sale I may be tempted to grab one and see how they all compare. I like seeing front projector tech advancing and not all the focus being on UST's. Maybe BenQ will respond with a proper solid state HT5550 successor.
@@tbob2224 I have been involved with projectors since the days of the Sony CPJ100, one of the very first lifestyle consumer projectors back in the late 80s so I have seen many. The Epson 50 UB series from my original 5030 to my most recent 5050 were always amazing and yet I don't miss them in the least with this JMGO N1.
@@OlyGoalie67 Nice, yeah at the $1199 kickstarter price it really seems like a steal.
I think at $2299 it's a little harder to swallow as long term reliability is questionable and there is no brand reputation yet. Will have to see how things go over the next year or two.
I think a two or even three year warranty would be a better for a newer brand like this to gain some brand loyalty/reputation if they are confident in the product.The Epsons all come with a minimum of 2y warranty and the 6050UB is 3y, Vivitek was 5y parts/labor and 3y advance replacement.
Yeah, I've into projectors for a while as well (not quite as long though :D). I bought my first projector back in 2004, it was a 1024x768 Optoma, I put about 15,000 hours on that thing. :)
Mine has such bad flicker, speckle and color fringing. I wish I could see someone else’s in person to compare
Sorry to hear that for sure...your welcome to come to Vancouver Island👍
@@OlyGoalie67 Always wanted to visit BC but I think my gf might murder me if I used our vacation to test a projector 😅
@@frannyfranman and probably a warranted murder if that was the case 😜
I see rainbows
Good eyes! Rainbows will always show with DLP projectors and are even more apparent when filming...that being said and I have commented previously that they are present but very limited and the least of any of the other projectors I have tried.
Are you sensitive to it? I tried videoing my HK2288 and I get zero rainbow effect in film (I do see what looks like scanlines but those aren't visible in person). I've seen the BenQ TH690ST which uses LED and the RBE was horrible in person and I'm not particularly sensitive to it, I have to look for it on the HK2288.
@@tbob2224I'm not overly sensitive to it but I definitely notice it on the N1 occasionally. Not anywhere near as much as you see it when recording a video. Keep in mind I don't currently have the ideal set up either as I have not received my ceiling mount yet so the projector is currently overshooting the screen a ton as it has to sit on a shelf at the back wall of my room then using the fit to screen feature. Once I'm able to mount it accordingly that should improve things as well.
@@OlyGoalie67 Right on. I've been unable to find a throw calculator for the JMGO, I'd be interested in how much vertical offset from the lens there is. If I were to use it I'd not want to use any of the digital scaling.
I hope it sells well, I would really like to see another version with zoom, lens shift for more flexible positioning.
An iris like the LS11000 would really help this thing get closer to inky black levels (think of how much the iris helps the BenQ HT5550 and it only has a native contrast of around 600:1).
Something like the Epson level lens shift and a motorized lens would be great. With all that and keep it around $3k or so and they'd have a real winner for just about any use case.
@@tbob2224 if you could have the N1 with the lens shift capabilities of the Epson UB series that would be amazing...but then it wouldn't be the size or convenience that the N1 has...you can shift it enough to make it fit without Keystone or fit to screen then that is ideal.
3 different light sources in one pixel when shifting...yeep nothing good 😬 (better 3 times less lumens than rainbow effect)
There is no single laser DLP that will touch the N1 and as I mentioned, the rainbow effect is almost zero...does your N1 have a bad rainbow affect??
You can try LED as well but they will also have rainbow if it a DLP, nothing you can do about that. I tried both the GP500 and X3000i from BenQ and they were as bad or worse than the N1...
@@OlyGoalie67 Formovie X5 , I think must perform much better than N1 ultra 😉
@@MoosebearAdventures I have not been able to see the X5 in person and was very interested in it when it first came out. Once I had seen a few reviews however my mind was changed based on the black levels and again, am very happy in fact, ecstatic with the N1...trust me when I say, I have tried almost every projector out there besides the very expensive Sony and JVCs and a few of the import projectors such as the X5 and none of them come close to the N1, none of them.
@@OlyGoalie67 black levels - it all depends on your projected surface 😉
In the case of this projector, this is not true 4K. This type of chip inside the projector is not capable of 4K (not capable of 4K resolution - this is upscaled 4K)