hi. I find with my current BD brush cutter, I tilt the front up and lift it up just high enough so I don't be throwing debris onto the cab. I cut the top off and let it fall , then I slowly bring the cutter down on the tree. when doing that you will notice that it beats and shatters that lower part of the trunk and by the time you get to the stump you will be able to clean it off flush to the ground. I wish I could send you video of what I am meaning. all the best and keep me posted.
I bet you are glad you got the heavy duty door on the Bobcat! I've used one of those brush cutters a few times, but never on trees. It does a good job!
Hey Kap, you should’ve gotten the T770, and the forestry Mulcher, the drum style attach, I know it’s a little more money, but I think it’s better in my opinion.
Yeah the other two guys got it right they are super expensive and generally you need a bigger machine yet than the t650. This one is kind of an overall do it all cutter. I can still mow grass with it and keep the trails maintained in comfort in that thing :-) Thanks
Does the instruction book tell you which side to take the long lengths? I have seen other videos where they back over the trunks on one side or the other and it chews them up read fast. Bet you save enough $ on popped tires with this thing and tracks.
Actually the manual does not say to try to suck them in one side or the other. I guess it's kind of a learning curve to see what it will actually accomplish
I'll give it a try but I know if they get stuck on the left side they just sit there and make a bunch of noise! LOL and yes it should be turning clockwise thanks
@@kapperoutdoors he is right. keep your deck in the same position on the ground and just back up, turn a little in the direction of the blade rotation, and drive over it again. It will change the orientation of the material with the blades and continue to suck the material into the deck. Ive found that keeping your deck close to the ground and manipulating it as little as possible gives the best finished product by far. "Pancaking" the deck (raising it and dropping it on material) is inefficient on a deck mower unless you are cutting down vines. It is also more abuse on the deck, bearing housing, and spindle if you pancake the cutter in larger material. They cut much different than a drum mulcher and require a different technique. Usually it's deck on the ground and then roll the front up slightly to allow taller clumps to be sucked in. Then level the deck and back drag to reprocess. Slower is faster on these things. Keep tip speed up and let it eat.
I'm going to try to leave the stumps in except for a few big ones I pulled out. I have planted this way before you just have to be a little more careful
Kapper, you've got an AWESOME farm my friend or hunting land, lol. You have the perfect machine for a Denis Cimaf rotary head, of course I'm sure you know how expensive they are, probably a third of what your 650 cost. I know you're having fun with your new toy and attachments, lol! New Subscriber here and enjoying your content brother, take care!👍👍
Thank you I appreciate it and hope you stick around for the ride. Yes I weighed out a lot of options and this was the best overall pick for our needs and budget. A Mulcher sure would be nice but just couldn't justify the cost, thanks
I don't think it does as good of a job when you compare it with a fecon. A fecon leaves nothing but chips and mulch the diamond seems to leave big chunks.
Open deck mowers are really useless messes, a close deck works so much better, ya reach up, the front of the deck pushes it over slightly, then cuts it and mulches it so much better, the open decks thrown material all over and the way the design the front of the skids don't float very well and throw things in all directions. A Cat BR378 would much that stuff up like nothin and clean to. Also that deck is really not made to cut grasses, it's just too messy.
This is more of a jack-of-all-trades cutting head. It can do light clearing like this but it can also mow grass which is why I picked this particular one. For the relatively limited amount of land clearing it should work just fine, thanks
@@kapperoutdoors no actually everything that he said is incorrect. The only slight advantage you'll see in a closed deck design is in very light brush. You'll get the same finish with slightly less effort in that material. They aren't near as efficient in anything over about 3 inches in diameter. That's why closed front decks are usually standard or light duty. Made for grass and light brush only. The closed deck is usually preferred to give inexperienced operators peace of mind.
All decks expel material the same way. You get the mulching effect inside the deck as it circulates whether open or closed front. A closed front will apply pressure and guide a little more of the smaller material as you drive over it. Other than that there is virtually no added benefit in mulching performance.
@@wpog8453 Wrong? We have been doing land clearing for 16 yrs now. A fleet of 11machines, both Cat and Bobcat, very successful company and Not 1 unsatisfied customer brother, We use close deck in all applications like this and forestry mulchers 6" or larger trees, tried several different open deck cutters, never was happy with them, Just trying to inform Kapper on use of his new machine to make his job easier. So before you call someone wrong, make sure you know whatcha talkin about.
@@laurav7034 I respect your experience but their are a number of factors that will effect mulching ability of a rotary. Flat Axe blades vs. Step down blades vs. Bush hog blades with lift. Carrier's flow and pressure. Number of blades on blade carrier. Hydraulic motor type and efficiency. Many of those factor into tip speed and how well it's maintained through the cycle. Many open fronts are designed for torque which effects blade tip speed. But practically, as far as the deck is concerned, the little bit of extra metal will contain smaller material as it feeds into the deck. That's really it. With a closed front, all of the material is bent before it engages the blades which means it has to cut a larger cross section of the material, requiring more horsepower. This will greatly affect your ability to maintain tip speed in thick brush on a smaller unit especially. I can get as fine of a finish as you could expect out of a nice open front that has a flow range that is matched well with the machine and has a fast enough tip speed at that output. I think it really depends on which brand cutter and machine setup were talking about but that's my opinion in general. I would definitely prefer an open front in the material he's cutting in the video. Especially with a 75 hp machine. With 32 gpm of flow, that Blue Diamond should still cut grass pretty well even with those step down axe blades.
Kapper Outdoors ok here goes I own a Napa auto parts store in NewHAmpshire and I’m known as Napa Mike I have a couple of pieces of land that I work on ( my therapy ) I have a kubota kx057 excavator 2 skid steers for working the properties as well as snow removal a John Deere tractor various attachments and trailers just love equipment and running it in my spare time I watch a few RUclips people cotontop3 that chipper guy lets dig 18 logger wade I don’t watch much tv I’d rather get ideas from people like yourself doing what I like to do found your channel with the t650 mines a s650 I have a case tr270 that I might just have to trade for the t650 soooooo keep up the videos I’m watchin ya kapper see ya Napa Mike 👍
@@mikewawrzkiewicz3741 thanks man I appreciate the reply and explanation. As you might know there's a lot of trolls trying to cut people down for living their dreams. Great to hear on the Kubota that was actually the excavator I really wanted but the Kubota service was shity and our local dealer. Glad to hear you fully respect the virtues of being out in the land and working the land and what a good feeling it can give to you. Keep up the great work I appreciate it! Kapper out!
So neee this thing....
Boy that looks like fun
Yeah it sure is except when a tree gets stuck in there and it sounds like it wants to blow up LOL. Otherwise it is fun :-)
man and his machine!
Hoorah!
Kapper it's 2021 n I never get tired see n the skip steer at wk. I just LOVE that piece of machinery... Great job... 👍🤓
Thank you appreciate that! My favorite is still the mini excavator, that's why I let Curtis us the skid steer alot! Cheers!
Need a mulcher for that bad boy.
Hungry little bugger
Yes sir
Nice machine Kap!
Thanks man!
Great video. I admire your set up.
Thank you I appreciate it
You should have got a mulching attachment to turn the trees cut down into mulch there and then
Well, this was kind of a jack of all trades kind of purchase to also mow heavy brush and bush hog.
@@kapperoutdoors ok cool tho if you change mind you can always get one.
Nice equipment!
You should've got the the mulching disc instead of the blades. It really shreds the trees instead of leaving long pieces behind
Yep, there was a ton of reasons that I did not though.
hi. I find with my current BD brush cutter, I tilt the front up and lift it up just high enough so I don't be throwing debris onto the cab. I cut the top off and let it fall , then I slowly bring the cutter down on the tree. when doing that you will notice that it beats and shatters that lower part of the trunk and by the time you get to the stump you will be able to clean it off flush to the ground. I wish I could send you video of what I am meaning. all the best and keep me posted.
thanks man, it will be a learning curve in thick trees like this.
Awesome! It's like a DR brush cutter..on steroids!
Oh no doubt it sure is!
Nice work Joe & Phil! You guys made a good size dent into the trees and brush with the cutter!
Thank you yes the second day I worked on it I completed the whole thing in like another hour. That's just insane.
That's awesome!
You need a mulching disk for tree work. That's more of a bushhog for saplings and thick brush.
Yes you are correct but there's no way I could have afforded both of them so I got the best one to try and fit my overall goals. Thanks
A severe duty deck is just fine for that size material, it just takes practice on your technique to get a good finish.
@@kapperoutdoors come on Kapper surely you are not that tight?
Awesome machine! Might need to get you a root grapple!
Yeah I know I've got an idea though for clearing the trees you'll have to stay tuned because it's something I've never seen anybody try yet.
That unit is certainly a game changer Joe not bad for 2hrs work for sure.
Yeah there's no doubt this skidsteer is going to change a lot of things this year, thank you cheers
Nice. :)
I bet you are glad you got the heavy duty door on the Bobcat! I've used one of those brush cutters a few times, but never on trees. It does a good job!
Oh yes no doubt I've had a few chunks hit it already and it sounded like a bullet hitting it.
"Boys & their Toys" playing in the mud....Looks like it works well..👍
Is that high flow and whats the hydraulic flow
yes, I think hi flow is 32 gpm. The mowers have 3 different pumps to match up to your flow rate. thanks.
Hey Kap, you should’ve gotten the T770, and the forestry Mulcher, the drum style attach, I know it’s a little more money, but I think it’s better in my opinion.
yeah I had to draw the line somewhere! LOL. I know it would be more power but I think the 650 will serve us well, thanks
Love to have that on the place for an afternoon
Yeah no doubt it would be sweet to make you some new trails Josh
Kapper I enjoyed that video Can’t wait to see some videos when you get more comfortable with that implement
Yeah the second day was a lot smoother but of course I took all the video right away LOL
Why did you choose the rotary cutter over a drum roller? I’ve never used either, just curious.
The drum mulchers are alot more money than the rotary 12 grand versus 30
@@rodneystewart8958 Exactly. That's the difference between using one for your own place, and going into the brush clearing business.
Yeah the other two guys got it right they are super expensive and generally you need a bigger machine yet than the t650. This one is kind of an overall do it all cutter. I can still mow grass with it and keep the trails maintained in comfort in that thing :-) Thanks
Great video. I really like the set up you have put together.
Thank you yes this is going to be an overall Land Management monster.
Does the instruction book tell you which side to take the long lengths? I have seen other videos where they back over the trunks on one side or the other and it chews them up read fast. Bet you save enough $ on popped tires with this thing and tracks.
Actually the manual does not say to try to suck them in one side or the other. I guess it's kind of a learning curve to see what it will actually accomplish
to grind up the trees on the ground better. feed them on the right side of the grinder if its turning clockwise. It will suck them right in!!
I'll give it a try but I know if they get stuck on the left side they just sit there and make a bunch of noise! LOL and yes it should be turning clockwise thanks
@@kapperoutdoors he is right. keep your deck in the same position on the ground and just back up, turn a little in the direction of the blade rotation, and drive over it again. It will change the orientation of the material with the blades and continue to suck the material into the deck. Ive found that keeping your deck close to the ground and manipulating it as little as possible gives the best finished product by far. "Pancaking" the deck (raising it and dropping it on material) is inefficient on a deck mower unless you are cutting down vines. It is also more abuse on the deck, bearing housing, and spindle if you pancake the cutter in larger material. They cut much different than a drum mulcher and require a different technique. Usually it's deck on the ground and then roll the front up slightly to allow taller clumps to be sucked in. Then level the deck and back drag to reprocess. Slower is faster on these things. Keep tip speed up and let it eat.
Sure you will be a pro before you know it. Definitely a chopping monster. Looks fun! Be plenty of work for it 👍
Yeah it'll be nice just to mow the trails on the farms and keep them open. Thanks
Hey Kap
What happens when you hit a rock with that thing.
Not that you have any rocks to worry about
Hopefully it just spits it out LOL
What about the stumps?......how you going to work over them?
I put up another short video on grinding the stumps at or below dirt level
Will you have to dig out stumps/rootballs before you plow or till to make food plots ?
I'm going to try to leave the stumps in except for a few big ones I pulled out. I have planted this way before you just have to be a little more careful
Now make you more relief use diamond cut tree ! 🦌🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
OMG godzilla on "roids"! Great stuff!
Hoorah! Roger that!
Kapper, you've got an AWESOME farm my friend or hunting land, lol. You have the perfect machine for a Denis Cimaf rotary head, of course I'm sure you know how expensive they are, probably a third of what your 650 cost. I know you're having fun with your new toy and attachments, lol! New Subscriber here and enjoying your content brother, take care!👍👍
Thank you I appreciate it and hope you stick around for the ride. Yes I weighed out a lot of options and this was the best overall pick for our needs and budget. A Mulcher sure would be nice but just couldn't justify the cost, thanks
Nice work! What is the maximum diameter tree that the Blue Diamond can handle?
10 inches. I'm hoping he doesn't try to find one just to see if it does! 😲
Joe, do you work in NJ??? I have a hillside for you to clear! LOL
is that a mower or a forestry chipper
Mower
Ok nice
Think of all the trails your going to cut this year.
Yep no doubt I think so lol thanks
Did you rent or buy it??? I want one
Bought it
@@kapperoutdoors did it have hi flo
@@jerimahjohnson8698 yes it has hi flow, that was a must have for me.
Awesome piece of equipment... If you don't come with it for a visit I'll have to rent one. ;)
LOL it's a little bit of a long drive sorry. They would be fun to rent but they are pretty dang expensive. Good luck thanks
I don't think it does as good of a job when you compare it with a fecon. A fecon leaves nothing but chips and mulch the diamond seems to leave big chunks.
Yes you are correct but can a fecon unit mow grass?
Yeah it's not the same machine either Bob, I mean your comparing a 10,000$ machine v'sA 35,000 machine. It's not comparing apples to apples..
Open deck mowers are really useless messes, a close deck works so much better, ya reach up, the front of the deck pushes it over slightly, then cuts it and mulches it so much better, the open decks thrown material all over and the way the design the front of the skids don't float very well and throw things in all directions. A Cat BR378 would much that stuff up like nothin and clean to. Also that deck is really not made to cut grasses, it's just too messy.
This is more of a jack-of-all-trades cutting head. It can do light clearing like this but it can also mow grass which is why I picked this particular one. For the relatively limited amount of land clearing it should work just fine, thanks
@@kapperoutdoors no actually everything that he said is incorrect. The only slight advantage you'll see in a closed deck design is in very light brush. You'll get the same finish with slightly less effort in that material. They aren't near as efficient in anything over about 3 inches in diameter. That's why closed front decks are usually standard or light duty. Made for grass and light brush only. The closed deck is usually preferred to give inexperienced operators peace of mind.
All decks expel material the same way. You get the mulching effect inside the deck as it circulates whether open or closed front. A closed front will apply pressure and guide a little more of the smaller material as you drive over it. Other than that there is virtually no added benefit in mulching performance.
@@wpog8453 Wrong? We have been doing land clearing for 16 yrs now. A fleet of 11machines, both Cat and Bobcat, very successful company and Not 1 unsatisfied customer brother, We use close deck in all applications like this and forestry mulchers 6" or larger trees, tried several different open deck cutters, never was happy with them, Just trying to inform Kapper on use of his new machine to make his job easier. So before you call someone wrong, make sure you know whatcha talkin about.
@@laurav7034 I respect your experience but their are a number of factors that will effect mulching ability of a rotary. Flat Axe blades vs. Step down blades vs. Bush hog blades with lift. Carrier's flow and pressure. Number of blades on blade carrier. Hydraulic motor type and efficiency. Many of those factor into tip speed and how well it's maintained through the cycle. Many open fronts are designed for torque which effects blade tip speed. But practically, as far as the deck is concerned, the little bit of extra metal will contain smaller material as it feeds into the deck. That's really it. With a closed front, all of the material is bent before it engages the blades which means it has to cut a larger cross section of the material, requiring more horsepower. This will greatly affect your ability to maintain tip speed in thick brush on a smaller unit especially. I can get as fine of a finish as you could expect out of a nice open front that has a flow range that is matched well with the machine and has a fast enough tip speed at that output. I think it really depends on which brand cutter and machine setup were talking about but that's my opinion in general. I would definitely prefer an open front in the material he's cutting in the video. Especially with a 75 hp machine. With 32 gpm of flow, that Blue Diamond should still cut grass pretty well even with those step down axe blades.
You’ll get it you just need to keep going over it clean up as ya go I love my brush cutter see ya Napa Mike
Okay you're going to have to tell me what Napa Mike means because if you're cutting me down every day I need to know that LOL
Kapper Outdoors ok here goes I own a Napa auto parts store in NewHAmpshire and I’m known as Napa Mike I have a couple of pieces of land that I work on ( my therapy ) I have a kubota kx057 excavator 2 skid steers for working the properties as well as snow removal a John Deere tractor various attachments and trailers just love equipment and running it in my spare time I watch a few RUclips people cotontop3 that chipper guy lets dig 18 logger wade I don’t watch much tv I’d rather get ideas from people like yourself doing what I like to do found your channel with the t650 mines a s650 I have a case tr270 that I might just have to trade for the t650 soooooo keep up the videos I’m watchin ya kapper see ya Napa Mike 👍
@@mikewawrzkiewicz3741 thanks man I appreciate the reply and explanation. As you might know there's a lot of trolls trying to cut people down for living their dreams. Great to hear on the Kubota that was actually the excavator I really wanted but the Kubota service was shity and our local dealer. Glad to hear you fully respect the virtues of being out in the land and working the land and what a good feeling it can give to you. Keep up the great work I appreciate it! Kapper out!