I am 77yrs old, back in the seventies I had a detector and really enjoyed it, someone came into my garage and took it, I have never been able to replace it, but I really enjoy your videos.
The curved pieces of metal in 6:30 are from old rails. Over the years the weight of trains mashes down the outside of the ball of the rail and pieces like that peel away.
I live by a old civil war camp type thing. there's a river and everything. I haven't gone down and explored, but with all your story's I'm going to go and find stuff!! ( I hope)
I asked my dad if we could get a metal detector because there is lots of great places for us to search and he actually said yes ! I'm so excited and I actually home we can get one
When I worked at the railroad on the 60s These pieces of metal were common. Peeled off of the rails. Steel wasn't as strong as today. Sometimes would see old rails with them still attached.
+Beau Ouimette I was thinking more like spike drum rings, Rail road spikes came in or still do come in steel drums and are sealed with a ring on the lid to keep moisture out. Also yes they can be rail shavings too
Beau, those strips of steel are what are called "overflow"". When a rail wears the edges flatten out and these strips form and eventually break off or are knocked off by the trackmen and thrown in the ditch.
I've done more research and it seems likely that these are indeed scraps worn from rails. This kind of wear does not happen to even 19th century steel rail but only to iron. "The Comparative Merits of Iron & Steel Rails" - 1866 says - "The points of contact of the wheels... with the rail are very minute... the effect is to squeeze and crush the iron and roll it off in laminae," So these scraps have a name - laminae. Why anyone would carry them uphill to the camp is still a mystery.
Also during the early part of the Civil War they were still using wooden rails that had a metal strip on their tops. When the workers would inspect the rails they would change the strips when they were worn or broken and then chuck them off to the side or like "Vargsy" said they are peels from the steel rails. Either which one they make an interesting bit of RR history. RAK, Et secundum diversitatem unitatis pro scientiam LPN/ret, HM2(FMF)/USN, Sgt/USAR, ACM/olc, CWVet, VNeVet, GWVet
When I was in school, there was a side rail off the tracks by the school. The rails there were very old, thinner and cruder than the new line. The top was much thinner and flatter than on modern rails, and in places had rusted clean through and curled down away from the body of the rail. Looked just like what your found.
Re: Those metal strips. They may be strip rail or shavings peeled off the rails, but...You earlier said, "I'm not sure why I am finding so many in this camping area and don't find them along the tracks elsewhere though." That suggests that most of them are off of something the soldiers were using in camp. I'd suggest straps off wooden shipping crates and barrels.
Looks like a Hobo camp....I work for CSX in western MD, lots of bridges in the area. Many troops were in the area protecting them. A big one was just outside of town. They sent small troops from the camp out on rotration to protect them. Along the Potomac and up towards New Creek, WV.....
I was out hauling wood with my dad and my brother when I was 12 or 13 and my brother found a, I assume, rather old broken two man saw that the logger used to use back in the day. I don't know how rare those types of things are but that was the coolest thing I have seen found in the woods. Always though it was kind of funny that we found a logging saw on a wood hauling trip guess it has been a good place to cut trees for a long time.
Those metal strips at the 6 min mark is rail that has shelled off from years of use. I work I with Cn rail up here in Canada and I see it every day. Keep up the good hunt my friend
Thanks for sharing! I'm an engineer that runs trains through there and I always wondered about that dilapidated house! Those sheared steel strips are the results of the rail head mushrooming out and then falling off the rail. Can't wait to share with some conductors about that one are being a block house! Thanks again!
Also Google "laminae worn off iron rails" for several more 19th century reports. The lowdown is that these scraps could only come from iron rails and are as old or older than the civil war fort, since iron rails were replaced by steel shortly after the war.
One more thing. The B&O did use strap rail - which it called plate rail - but this was all taken up on main lines long before the war. Strap rail is also much thicker than these scraps and would have nail holes along the length where they were fixed to the stringers. So not strap rail.
I think they called it Colke yep yep Have you ever been to Hopewell village in Pa the Hopewell Furnace and French Creek State Park..I played there as a child and fished swimming was good too hi hi ....lol I Miss Montgomery Co..Bucks. And all of the Coventry’s Chester Co..lots of History there and not last but St.Peters Village is my heart and treat her good please . Thank you for sharing blessings. Keith.
The straps at 6:02.... I suggested in several comments, years ago, that these were "laminae" worn off of cast iron railroad track. It's haunted me for years, and I have another suggestion. Straps that held cannonballs and shells to a wooden sabot. That's why they're all ripped up.
That TrainWeb photo tour has many pages. For the page showing plate rail and granite stringers Google "B&O strap rail plate rail" and it's the second one down.
I love the idea that many of your countryman are so interested in what in historical terms (ACW) was'nt that long ago. Here in the UK where i live we have plenty of reminders of USAAF bases from ww2. I find mostly british items (the RAF took over these bases after 45) but now and then an item of US issue turns up. Ask how many of my countryman are interested in our civil war and very few seem to take interest. Good hunting ;-)
I just love the finds but even more so the history lessons from your videos. You can read about Civil War battles and camps but until you see the actuall terrain you can not fully understand and appreciate the way events unfolded. Thanks!
Definitely search as many of the old civil war area rail roads. Because they used those rail roads for the pay roll.. which was crates of Gold coins and silver coins.... and a good few of those payrolls where stolen and robbed at the train... and I'm positive some of those chest where busted open and I garuntee a good amount of those coins hit the ground as they done it n ran away... plus there is a few lost pay rolls that where stolen from the trains one of em is in a cave near the old rail roads... so Def do some really good searches around em ;)
Those sounds your machine makes reminds me of the old school machines they use out in Australia looking for tiny nuggets in the bush and dessert area. Nice video.
Thank you Beau, you're a good guy. That's a great spot! I would think there's STILL a few things spread out over that area. Lots of history, I LOVE IT!
I'm amazed by those numbers of casualties. I had no idea it was that high. As Europeans, I think we get a little preoccupied by WW1 & 2..... Thanks again. I must say, i really look forward to you videos on here... Cheers.
Hi Beau, Barry from New Zealand, I enjoy your clips. The pieces of metal you find could be metal strips that use to be place on the edges of old wooden packing cases. I remember these being used in NZ. Keep up the good work,.....B
nuggetnoggin, finds good stuff in the floors, beau you should take a shot, silver coins etc, when the bridge was burned where did the repair crew camp, and the soliders at the blook house on the hill did they wash down at the river, any path.great history in your ground lucky
Actually we lost 550,000 in WW2 and about 650,000 plus in the Civil War. 110,000 in WW1. So those 3 were our bloodiest. After that the Civil War dead outnumbers all other wars combined for the USA, excluding those mentioned. When the water season arrives, I hope you find something really cool! Be nice if you found a bronze 12 pounder underwater... lol.
At 6:15 they look like the old Torpedo casen they used a while back on the track so when the trains was going to fast they would explode with a loud bang so the people would know they are going too fast .. they was attached to the out side of the train tacks ...
gpx5000 - wow you carried a deep heater on this spin. - i bet you were excited 15 years ago when u were there first...god it does look like a really nice spot. good luck beau - see you soon.
I don't even metal detect. I just like your stories and hanging with you to learn how to see the past in the present. One of my fave channels!
+Paul G Same, its truly awesome to watch for whatever odd reason
I am 77yrs old, back in the seventies I had a detector and really enjoyed it, someone came into my garage and took it, I have never been able to replace it, but I really enjoy your videos.
The curved pieces of metal in 6:30 are from old rails. Over the years the weight of trains mashes down the outside of the ball of the rail and pieces like that peel away.
I live by a old civil war camp type thing. there's a river and everything. I haven't gone down and explored, but with all your story's I'm going to go and find stuff!! ( I hope)
I asked my dad if we could get a metal detector because there is lots of great places for us to search and he actually said yes ! I'm so excited and I actually home we can get one
Hope*
+lilplafulkatt congrats on ur metal detector good luck!! And have fun
When I worked at the railroad on the 60s These pieces of metal were common. Peeled off of the rails. Steel wasn't as strong as today. Sometimes would see old rails with them still attached.
+Beau Ouimette I was thinking more like spike drum rings, Rail road spikes came in or still do come in steel drums and are sealed with a ring on the lid to keep moisture out.
Also yes they can be rail shavings too
Beau, those strips of steel are what are called "overflow"". When a rail wears the edges flatten out and these strips form and eventually break off or are knocked off by the trackmen and thrown in the ditch.
You where right about the iron at 6:24, mostly around curves it will peel off the inside of the rail.
I've done more research and it seems likely that these are indeed scraps worn from rails. This kind of wear does not happen to even 19th century steel rail but only to iron. "The Comparative Merits of Iron & Steel Rails" - 1866 says - "The points of contact of the wheels... with the rail are very minute... the effect is to squeeze and crush the iron and roll it off in laminae," So these scraps have a name - laminae. Why anyone would carry them uphill to the camp is still a mystery.
To the person metal detecting, you are highly intelligent and a really cool person.
Also during the early part of the Civil War they were still using wooden rails that had a metal strip on their tops. When the workers would inspect the rails they would change the strips when they were worn or broken and then chuck them off to the side or like "Vargsy" said they are peels from the steel rails. Either which one they make an interesting bit of RR history.
RAK,
Et secundum diversitatem unitatis pro scientiam
LPN/ret, HM2(FMF)/USN, Sgt/USAR, ACM/olc, CWVet, VNeVet, GWVet
Yep nugget would love the house.
When I was in school, there was a side rail off the tracks by the school. The rails there were very old, thinner and cruder than the new line. The top was much thinner and flatter than on modern rails, and in places had rusted clean through and curled down away from the body of the rail. Looked just like what your found.
those metal pieces did come off an old rail worn away by the trains. you got a great view of the trains from there.
Re: Those metal strips. They may be strip rail or shavings peeled off the rails, but...You earlier said, "I'm not sure why I am finding so many in this camping area and don't find them along the tracks elsewhere though." That suggests that most of them are off of something the soldiers were using in camp. I'd suggest straps off wooden shipping crates and barrels.
Intresting digging down thear, the blisstool would get thru that coke i have tried it , cool video thanks
This city life is killin' me !
Looks like a Hobo camp....I work for CSX in western MD, lots of bridges in the area. Many troops were in the area protecting them. A big one was just outside of town. They sent small troops from the camp out on rotration to protect them. Along the Potomac and up towards New Creek, WV.....
This is one of my favorite videos... I find myself watching this weekly, lol.
Those rusted metal strips could be rail slivers from rail wear.
4:00, First engine is a GEVO, second is a DASH9, third is an SD40-2. CSX definitly has the best trains for viewing.
I was out hauling wood with my dad and my brother when I was 12 or 13 and my brother found a, I assume, rather old broken two man saw that the logger used to use back in the day. I don't know how rare those types of things are but that was the coolest thing I have seen found in the woods. Always though it was kind of funny that we found a logging saw on a wood hauling trip guess it has been a good place to cut trees for a long time.
Those metal strips at the 6 min mark is rail that has shelled off from years of use. I work I with Cn rail up here in Canada and I see it every day. Keep up the good hunt my friend
Be Careful around home sites because of wells.
Thanks for sharing! I'm an engineer that runs trains through there and I always wondered about that dilapidated house! Those sheared steel strips are the results of the rail head mushrooming out and then falling off the rail. Can't wait to share with some conductors about that one are being a block house! Thanks again!
2:17 couldn' stop laughing with the sound of the metal detector gr8 job by the way mate!
Also Google "laminae worn off iron rails" for several more 19th century reports. The lowdown is that these scraps could only come from iron rails and are as old or older than the civil war fort, since iron rails were replaced by steel shortly after the war.
One more thing. The B&O did use strap rail - which it called plate rail - but this was all taken up on main lines long before the war. Strap rail is also much thicker than these scraps and would have nail holes along the length where they were fixed to the stringers. So not strap rail.
" bridge burned three or four times" F troop was guarding it.
Gunpowder barrel bands ???? From when they blew up the bridge ????
That looks like Virginia..where I use to live by...up near Stanley, Lury area..
I think they called it Colke yep yep Have you ever been to Hopewell village in Pa the Hopewell Furnace and French Creek State Park..I played there as a child and fished swimming was good too hi hi ....lol
I Miss Montgomery Co..Bucks. And all of the Coventry’s Chester Co..lots of History there and not last but
St.Peters Village is my heart and treat her good please . Thank you for sharing blessings. Keith.
I detected that place twice back in the late 80's - early 90's. As I recall I found mostly bullets but a few coins also.
Straprail. At one time, iron straps were nailed to timber as temporary track. This was along the B&O, so it's a possibility.
i always like a bit of train watching. and maybe train riding and metal detecting near the tracks for railway pins and tracks
Curved rusted metal is from the civil war tracks. Edges peal off
Again a nice huntingtrip tanks for sharing
The straps at 6:02.... I suggested in several comments, years ago, that these were "laminae" worn off of cast iron railroad track. It's haunted me for years, and I have another suggestion. Straps that held cannonballs and shells to a wooden sabot. That's why they're all ripped up.
Nice SD40-2 catch on the first train!
realy really great thanks
I would have seen the trench line and determined that it was an animal path. Nice vid. Thank you!
You look marvelous!! Nice video!! Thank you!! I always learn something new on ur videos!! Very Cool!!
That TrainWeb photo tour has many pages. For the page showing plate rail and granite stringers Google "B&O strap rail plate rail" and it's the second one down.
Got a kick out of the fly whistle sound your detector made,lol. Love your videos!
I love the idea that many of your countryman are so interested in what in historical terms (ACW) was'nt that long ago. Here in the UK where i live we have plenty of reminders of USAAF bases from ww2. I find mostly british items (the RAF took over these bases after 45) but now and then an item of US issue turns up. Ask how many of my countryman are interested in our civil war and very few seem to take interest.
Good hunting ;-)
oh wow...ive stood an watched that same train in the same spot....eerie...I had no idea that stuff was there
Thanks for the information.... I think I'll do a bit of research, and keep watching your videos... Cheers to you.
cool, it nice to see you digging out in the woods, a nice array of finds ! Enjoy all your video's See U next time , Beau
I just love the finds but even more so the history lessons from your videos. You can read about Civil War battles and camps but until you see the actuall terrain you can not fully understand and appreciate the way events unfolded. Thanks!
Definitely search as many of the old civil war area rail roads. Because they used those rail roads for the pay roll.. which was crates of Gold coins and silver coins.... and a good few of those payrolls where stolen and robbed at the train... and I'm positive some of those chest where busted open and I garuntee a good amount of those coins hit the ground as they done it n ran away... plus there is a few lost pay rolls that where stolen from the trains one of em is in a cave near the old rail roads... so Def do some really good searches around em ;)
They had a great sniping position up there for sure
Enjoyed watching nice area with good finds.
Very neat place for sure, would like to see what awaits you on the side of the stream bank, just under the surface Beau. Thank you for sharing.
Falls cool for woods walks - no ticks. My best finds were in school yards. No Minnie balls around here.
I looking forward to you getting back to the water you do better there .. i have had some luck here keep at it ...! !
Those sounds your machine makes reminds me of the old school machines they use out in Australia looking for tiny nuggets in the bush and dessert area. Nice video.
Glad to see you posting again. Northern indiana does'nt offer much for the Civil War history fan,so thanks.
Awesome signal sound on that detector.
what brand and model is that? Been trying to find something aside from my radioshack discovery2k. Nice civ relics also.
Thank you Beau, you're a good guy. That's a great spot! I would think there's STILL a few things spread out over that area. Lots of history, I LOVE IT!
Cool video... I like all your uploads, regardless of what you find!! Thanks for sharing friend...
Daniel
Beau keep doing this and open your own Museum at the end of your hunting days or interim and then we can see all your wonderful finds
Good stuff Beau!! Kool bullets. Tks for posting!!
Very cool video! I like to metal detect too.
Found dozens of Case shot with Boreman Fuses at Altoona Pass. Never fired.
I'm amazed by those numbers of casualties. I had no idea it was that high. As Europeans, I think we get a little preoccupied by WW1 & 2..... Thanks again. I must say, i really look forward to you videos on here... Cheers.
Nice video! I really enjoy it when you teach us viewers how to read the landscape.
Great video. Old Frank and I will be hunting similar sites soon. Nice finds! HH! Hornbush.
You are so much fun to watch!
Beau ole Nugget would go crazy in there ! lol !
Good video !
I'm surprised there are still places like this left that you can still metal detect.
i spent many years as a track inspector on the railroad.
Bee Waa! Must be the right tone on your metal detector!
those are 100% worn rail edges. the wheels will work the metal out on the old rail. they can be sharp as razors.
It's a part of the railroad track that had been very worn for at least 10-15 years
Hi Beau, Barry from New Zealand, I enjoy your clips. The pieces of metal you find could be metal strips that use to be place on the edges of old wooden packing cases.
I remember these being used in NZ.
Keep up the good work,.....B
Another interesting vid. Thanx for sharin'.
Was looking forward to your videos since its been warm out. Hope you keep getting out there. Happy hunting.
nuggetnoggin, finds good stuff in the floors, beau you should take a shot, silver coins etc, when the bridge was burned where did the repair crew camp, and the soliders at the blook house on the hill did they wash down at the river, any path.great history in your ground lucky
That looked like a very neat place to explore! Glad you found a little something for your collection, too!
Actually we lost 550,000 in WW2 and about 650,000 plus in the Civil War. 110,000 in WW1. So those 3 were our bloodiest. After that the Civil War dead outnumbers all other wars combined for the USA, excluding those mentioned. When the water season arrives, I hope you find something really cool! Be nice if you found a bronze 12 pounder underwater... lol.
I like when you treasure hunt with detector in water for rings and coins
Thank You for your reply Ive just had a weird experience with the house in Shen.Jct.
Always great to see a new video from you! I can't wait until you start hitting the streams again. Thanks for sharing!
I found an antique Louisville and Nashville railroad spike from the 1850s
What a great video Beau, thoroughly entertaining and the historical information and walk around was great. Top stuff mate. Happy Hunting! Warren.
coolness! great place make sure you do dig for bottles one day!
Those pieces of metal you couldn't identify are a part of a fence it's a wire fence with lots of staggered sections of metal like that
At 6:15 they look like the old Torpedo casen they used a while back on the track so when the trains was going to fast they would explode with a loud bang so the people would know they are going too fast .. they was attached to the out side of the train tacks ...
thats were big foot lives and the note pad is his Toliet paper!!!!!!!!
I always put a spent 22 bullet casing in the metal detecting holes I dig before I refill them, maybe a bullet tree will grow! ;-)
Great video Beau!
Your iron things could be straps used to hold bales of sleepers together.
Beau you make it all seem so easy. Great vids thanks.
Nice video, Beau. Really cool mentioning Nuggit. You're a class act!
gpx5000 - wow you carried a deep heater on this spin. - i bet you were excited 15 years ago when u were there first...god it does look like a really nice spot.
good luck beau - see you soon.
your metal detector sounds like a flying saucer! LOL
Those long metal things you found look like the remains of picket stakes for holding barbed wire
Nice finds. I got my metal detector for Christmas and have yet to find one bullet.
I'd be ALL OVER that house!
Nice video, Thanks Beau.