Ref Class Presents: Tough Calls Ref, Volume 3 (CRAZY PLAYS) 😳
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This game was well officiated. There were lots of tough calls with a hostile environment to match. I wanted to show you a few clips of this championship game that I was fortunate enough to watch in person.
The Professor's Thoughts:
Play 1) Decent toss, 7.5
Play 2) Foul
Play 3) Play-on
Play 4) Play-on
Play 5) Hand-checking Foul on Black #32
Play 6) Player-control foul on White #1
Play 7) Traveling Violation
Play 8) Foul on Black #2
Play 9) Play-on
Play 10) Intentional Foul on Black #5, and Edit with InShot: v.inshotapp.ne... warning on White#1
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Music: Bloomer
Musician: EnjoyMusic
URL: enjoymusic.ai
Hey, Professor, I see (and agree with) your decisions on all the calls, except for 8. Perhaps I'm missing something. Is it the forearm contact above the free-throw line extended that leads you to the foul decision on black, even though the offensive player has already passed the ball? That's the only thing that I can see that might lead you to that call. What am I missing?
Black #2 impeded white #3's freedom of movement by placing his forearm into his opponents chest. This act is illegal and should be penalized. Rule 4-24 teaches us about legal and illegal contact.
-The Professor
-The Professor
@@RefClass So the foul by Black 2 is due the forearm into the chest, and White 3's shove afterward is either a no call, because it's after the play has stopped, or a potentially technical, but in either case, play stopped with Black 2's forearm? Correct?
tough calls indeed.... but # 4 is not an illegal screen ?
What made you determine #4 to not be an illegal screen? Deciding what to rule (or not rule) is one thing. Articulating it is another.
-The Professor
@@RefClass i see it as an illegal screen. Number 14 white is not still but bumping into black (i cant see the number). Good job anyways 👍.
@@joacoramas The offensive player's back is to the defensive player, and maneuvering for position. Once the offensive player's back is to the defender, it's no longer a screen, and is simply fighting for position. (See what Tim Duncan does on Ben Wallace: ruclips.net/video/faPj3u592po/видео.html). Additionally, the player (either offensive or defensive) behind another player is responsible for any and all contact.
On #6, at this level of play (if I understand correctly), I would agree that it's an offensive charge. However, at higher levels, where the restricted area is instituted, that would be a blocking foul, IMO. Relevant factors: the offensive player starts his move outside of the LDB (Lower Defensive Block). The defensive player establishes a stationary position inside the Restricted Area, which is a three- or four-foot semi-circle (approximately a semi-circle, but not quite) from the center of the basket (three- or four-foot, depending on level of play). The defensive player and the offensive player come into contact while at least one of the defender's feet is in contact with the ground. If all three of those conditions are present, that's a blocking foul when the Restricted Area is relevant. I don't see a marking on the floor for the Restricted Area, so I expect that it's not instituted in this league, but black's position is definitely (IMO) inside even the smaller Restricted Area without any question at all. I consider one of the stronger elements of my game to be my willingness (eagerness even) to take a charge against anyone, no matter their size, speed, or physicality, even in pick-up games where I would never actually "call" a charge, but even in those pick-up games, I'm always cognizant of the Restricted Area, and never attempt to take a charge there. Ever. The Restricted Area was instituted to prevent injuries, since there really is only one direction for the offensive player to go that close to the basket, and that's towards the basket and up, if they're driving. If they start their move inside the LDB (Lower Defensive Block), the Restricted Area doesn't apply, so it's only on a drive to the basket (mostly, with some kind of funny exceptions). On #6, black takes a good charge, but I fear that he might not understand how he needs to adapt that positioning for higher levels of play. :( Thoughts, Professor?
When officiating a certain level, we (officials) must apply the rules pertaining to that level. NFHS (high school & middle school), CCA (college), ABA (simi-pro), FIBA (international), and NBA (United Stated pro league) all share the same basic rules, but have their our unique set of specific rules and caseplays for officials to uphold. Applying a college rule on a block/charge play in a high school game will back will not go well. Coaches won't understand and rightfully lash out. Your partners will have a difficult time matching your play call selection, which will throw the crew chemistry off. And you will separate yourself in the worst way amongst your fellow officials during the season. Case in point, you will never catch an NBA official applying a NFHS (high school) rule in their game. If he does, he will likely lose his job.
-The Professor
@@RefClass I 100% agree, and would add that we need to know what rules differ at different levels of play in order to have the confidence to make calls (and appropriately address criticism) according to the level of the game of the moment. Know the level. Know the rules at each level. Make calls according to the level of the moment. Be able to address criticisms that apply to a different level of play.