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🏀Ref Class is now in session! Episode 3, You're Ejected! (REFEREE BASKETBALL TRAINING)🫡
The Professor's Thoughts:
Play 1) Offensive foul on blue 5, followed by a deadball technical foul white 2 (shove to the ground). Blue 2 & 11 receive flagrant technical fouls for coming off the bench (disqualified). The head coach loses the coaches' box privilege. All technical fouls off the bench count as 1 in this situation. Penalties will be administered in the order of occurrence.
How to adjudicate: Any eligible player from blue will shoot 2 free-throws (deadball technical foul), then any eligible player from white will shoot 2 free-throws, then receive the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the table.
Play 2) White 22 & black 34 both receive flagrant technical fouls (case...
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Комментарии

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 4 часа назад

    For me blocking foul, the defender is a little bit too late. No Call is not an option, as the defender is outside the semi circle.

  • @Urlocalidiot24
    @Urlocalidiot24 6 часов назад

    Idk I’m ain’t seen nothing

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 5 часов назад

      😆😆😆

  • @Fishnstick
    @Fishnstick 8 часов назад

    b

  • @dondreavery4497
    @dondreavery4497 3 дня назад

    Excellent question, I need that rule interpretation.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 3 дня назад

      I'll answer you in code: 1-13-3.😉 -The Professor

  • @dondreavery4497
    @dondreavery4497 3 дня назад

    I have information😂😂 Looking at it from this angle, I can go with the common, but it’s definitely a discussion with my partner for possible upgrade (IF)

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 2 дня назад

      @dondreavery4497 I agree with your observation. The contact was definitely illegal, but not excessive. The off official did an excellent job on getting to his partner to pass information. This display of communication is one way a crew can "control" the game. -The Professor

  • @DosKumaks
    @DosKumaks 3 дня назад

    In your dunking a dead ball example only one team offended. So the penalty you show after the play would not be applied, correct? I really like how you break down the reporting sequence with each signal from the book, was hoping you had that for the dead ball dunk before the game. Appreciate your perspective on rule changes, I need to hear and see it several different ways before I can lock it in.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 3 дня назад

      During the clip of dunking a deadball, the official near the scorers table called a technical foul as players were walking to their bench. In this situation, briefly discuss the ruling and penalty with your partner. Then, after reporting to the table, the ruling official can walk over to the team who was assessed the t-foul and pass the information (number of the play and what he/she did), and the results of the penalty. The other official can go to the offended team to tell them they will receive 2 free-throws plus the ball to start the game. This way, they get to designate a shooter ASAP. -The Professor

  • @PHCP325
    @PHCP325 5 дней назад

    B pushing body foul on black . he was pushing backwards on white to displace him

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 5 дней назад

      Good observation! You also used the words pushing and displace to describe what you saw. This straight to the point description of what you observed is all you'll need to say if asked by a player or the coach of the black team.👍🏾 -The Professor

  • @PHCP325
    @PHCP325 7 дней назад

    A. team control foul. white was set and was entitled to that spot on the floor

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 6 дней назад

      I agree! White obtaining legal guarding position prior to the point of contact. ✅️ After determining legal statues, we must now determine the severity of the contact. Do you believe Blue #42 illegally contacted White #3, causing him to go down, or did White #3 embellish the contact in hopes of an official ruling a team-control foul? -The Professor

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 7 дней назад

    For me: flopping. Even though the blue player has a complete different body.

  • @mwilson0404
    @mwilson0404 7 дней назад

    Flop… go play soccer.

  • @PHCP325
    @PHCP325 10 дней назад

    A travel

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 10 дней назад

      A key factor of determining what constitutes a traveling violation by a ball handler is determining which foot is the pivot foot. So, when the dribble came to an end, which foot did you determine to be the pivot foot? Something else to keep in mind while doing this is just because something looks bad doesn't make it illegal. -The Professor

  • @PHCP325
    @PHCP325 10 дней назад

    he didn’t travel he stayed on his pivot foot

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 11 дней назад

    Basket interference on White 24. Score the basket. A player (either offensive or defensive) cannot touch the net, the backboard, or the rim while the basketball is above the cylinder of the basketball hoop.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 10 дней назад

      There are situations where imply contacting the net is not illegal. Rule 4-6-1 allows an exception for contacting the net while the ball is on or within the basket, and the casebook provides caseplay scenarios for grabbing the net/basket ring with caseplay 9.11.4 Situation. Take a look at those and let me know whatcha think. -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 10 дней назад

      @@RefClass I would say White 24 intentionally grabs the net, and shakes the entire backboard. That's not incidental contact. If his hand just passes through the net, I'm fine with that, but the whole backboard shakes, and he wasn't making a play on the ball. He was attempting to disrupt the contact of the basketball with the backboard.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 6 дней назад

      ​@@jamesday3591 When ruling on plays such as this, it's a good idea for officials to get together. Your description of what happened is greatly detailed.👍🏾 Watch the play again, and consider this: 1) Did safety have something to do with White #24 grabbing onto the net? (contact with Red #5)🤔 2) Was the shot above the cylinder and on the ring, or make contact with the ring at any point while the basket was shaking? 🤔 In order to rule basket interference, you must also add the information of what the action interfered with. -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 6 дней назад

      @@RefClass No, safety did not play a sufficient factor. If the net was grabbed due to safety, the player would not have yanked on the net; he would have simply stabilized himself. The resulting shaking motion of the backboard was both flagrant, and directly impacted the natural contact of the basketball with the glass, which is a fundamental aspect of a low-angle layup against a taller defender. White 24 may have yanked it out of frustration, but it was excessive related solely to application of safety, and had a direct impact on the reasonable expectation of english for a low-angle layup.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 6 дней назад

      ​@@jamesday3591​ With the information that you provided as to how and why White #24 grabbed the net, the proper ruling for his actions would be a technical foul. The only thing with your comment that remains debatable (in my opinion) is whether or not the shot was on/over the cylinder when white #24 flagrantly grabbed/contacted the net. I witnessed the ball go completely over the rim, just barely contacting the backboard on the opposite side of the ring while on it's way down. Contacting/pulling the net had no effect on how the shot ended up (in my opinion). -The Professor -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 13 дней назад

    That's legit. Gather, foot one lands (pivot foot), foot two lands (pivot foot leaves the floor), pause, shot before the pivot foot returns to the floor.

  • @jnjrob806
    @jnjrob806 14 дней назад

    Can you please break down the delay of game scenario please. I am asking because sometimes when I am in game and I call in the floor foul a player will sometimes just shoot the ball after the whistle. I see somewhat of the same situation in that scenario except he passes the ball after the whistle and his teammate shoots it.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 13 дней назад

      If possible, it helps when officials use their voice in situations like this. Our training is different from the players' and coaches' training. We know players like to get up a shot after the whistle is blown. They don't have any bad intentions behind doing it. It's just out of habit to see if they would've made the shot. We have to use our voices in situations like this. "Hey, don't shoot that!" If the player still shoots the ball, so be it (delay of game warning), if he doesn't, we get to tell them the penalty if they had shot the ball. This rule covers all aspects of failing to give the nearest official the ball. I have .ore videos to come that display delay of game situations. Check out the video on the 2024-25 Points Of Emphasis, where I show 2 different situations: ruclips.net/video/fUSZtm6am_M/видео.htmlsi=sNYvupDRHojY8241 -The Professor

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 16 дней назад

    Play on. I can't see any violation, only a fumbling. But I am not 100 % sure. I am lookiing für the correct answer, professor. 😅

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 15 дней назад

      Sir, you are correct!😁 And if you want to know why, read rule 7.1.1. Situation D within the NFHS casebook. -The Professor

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 18 дней назад

    100 % Legal. Sliding on the floor is not a travel. Rolling over the floor is a travel. Stand up while dribbling is legal. Stand up and just holding the ball is a travel.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 13 дней назад

      Technically speaking, rolling over while sliding is legal, rolling over while no longer sliding is illegal. Caseplay 4.44.5 Situation B. All other information that you stated is correct!👍🏾 -The Professor

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 18 дней назад

    Foul on white 19. He had the worse position on rebounding and creates an illegal contact.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 17 дней назад

      So you would've called a foul on white #19 well before white #15' foul. I can see that.👍🏾 -The Professor

  • @PHCP325
    @PHCP325 18 дней назад

    i just started ref class last week but ima let it play on he dribbled..but please let me know what YOU would do

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 18 дней назад

      This play looks tricky. In order to accurately deem this to be legal or illegal, you have to know the rulebook of the level you are officiating. To my knowledge, all rulebooks will be the same pertaining to this play. Caseplay 4.44.5 Situation B in the NFHS casebook gives a clear explanation to determine this clip legal or illegal.😉 -The Professor

  • @UglyTruthHurts
    @UglyTruthHurts 18 дней назад

    Today’s NBA, no violation. Yesterdays NBA, traveling

    • @TheCrispOne2024
      @TheCrispOne2024 18 дней назад

      I was about to say the same thing lmao 😂

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 18 дней назад

      The ruling on this clip would be the same in an NBA, FIBA, college, high school, adult league, and youth league basketball game. From player to coach, and now as an official, assignor, and teacher of this beautiful game, I've realized that rule wise, I didn't know as much as I thought I knew before becoming an official. It's like driving. To never read the manual, then take a driver's test. I may know how to drive, but there are certain things that I will not know because I've never read the book. -The Professor

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 18 дней назад

      I will agree, it does look funny!😆... but, is it legal?🤔 -The Professor

    • @UglyTruthHurts
      @UglyTruthHurts 18 дней назад

      @@RefClass not legal, it’s traveling. The play might create excitement but a violation is a violation.

  • @terrrancehawkins6537
    @terrrancehawkins6537 22 дня назад

    Thank you

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 22 дня назад

      You're welcome! Stay tuned. There's lots more to come.😉 -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 26 дней назад

    First, love this series! Thanks, Professor! Second, here's my take: 1. Defensive player caught the edge of someone's foot as he attempted to move laterally. The fall was not caused by the offensive player, nor was it a flop. He just lost his balance at about the same time as the offensive player made his final step to the basket. No call, play on. 2a. No call, no flop, play on. The offensive player has his back to the defensive player, and they are both fighting for legal rebounding position. As the player who is behind the other player, the defensive player is responsible for contact, unless he has stopped moving, which he hasn't. He's overpowered by the stronger player under the basket without having first established a position. 2b. Offensive player pushes the defender with arms extended to prevent the defensive player from obtaining a favorable path to the loose ball. Technically, foul. Practically, play on. I wouldn't call it either as a ref or as the defensive player. In eras where less contact was allowed, definitely a foul, but not by today's interpretation of such contact. 3a. No call, play on. Offensive player lost his footing on the load for the layup. If that was a flop, it was because he was trying to hide his trip, not because he was trying to get a foul call, IMO. ;) You can specifically see his left ankle giving way in a somewhat dangerous angle as he goes down. 3b. No call, no foul, no flop. Offensive and defensive player moved together. Offensive player contorted his body to get the shot off over a well-positioned defender as a half-runner. Tough, desperation shot the he wasn't prepared to take considering he tried to finish in a triple team with decently well executed help defense underneath and a ... perhaps less than half-hearted help defensive from the wing. His body contortion caused him to fall, not the defender, and not because he was flopping. It reminds me of my wife's biggest complaint about my game. (If you really want to know, ask what that is. ;) 4a. Ticky-tack foul. I'd tell him to stop, and then warn him if he didn't. Stop pushing your opponent with your arm extended, especially above the free-throw line. Not enough to really call, but I'd want him to know that I saw it, and didn't like it. 4b. Travel first (lol!), and then an offensive foul. Lowering your shoulder into the defender is not legit, IMO. Plus, he had the defender slightly off balance from his clear jab with his left (pivot) foot, pushing off his right foot before the dribble. So, clearly a travel first. 5. No foul, no flop, no call. Defender went straight up. Offensive player bounced off. 6. Can't tell from that angle from that far away. If the defender caught part of the ball first, then it's a clean block, no foul, no flop, no call. If the defender didn't get part of the ball first, then it's still hard to tell from that angel from that far away. The defender clearly hits the offensive player's arm. The offensive player might be flopping, because he "expected" the defensive player to swipe above, but I think it's more likely a foul, if the defender didn't get a piece of the ball first. Bottom-line: inconclusive, so essentially a no-call, but not because of the players, because of my position and distance. My best guess would be clean block. 7. No call, no foul, no flop, play on. Smaller offensive player who doesn't have enough court awareness yet, throwing up a running fade away in traffic against a bigger defender. Decent defense, but certainly not overly aggressive. No contact. Lack of body control on a desperation shot that he never should have taken. You've collapsed the defense, and have two open teammates in good position to take a pass. Technical foul for bad judgement. LOL! ;) 8. No foul, no flop, no call, play on. Good play, both offensively and defensively. Defender had good position. Offensive player broke down his defender with some good physical body contact (legal) that doesn't dislodge the defender, but puts him off balance enough that the defender can't shift to his left with the offensive player's low spin, and the offensive player is able to finish with some nice post foot-work. Defensive player needs to work on not absorbing that type of contact too vertically, and lower his center of gravity so that body contact from the offensive player doesn't rock him off balance, but otherwise, good play on both players. Better play by the offensive player. 9. Starts with a nice travel! LOL! If the offensive player had let the ball go, he could have recovered it without a travel, but since he didn't let the hit ground on his bobble ... travel. I wouldn't call it in a pick-up game (but I'd harass him about it), but I would call it as a ref. It's too blatant. On the actual shot, that's not a foul. Defender is vertical, not moving into the offensive player. The contact is incidental, as the defender's arms are completely vertical, and he's not even making an attempt on either the offensive player or the ball. That contact is the offensive player's fault, but not an offensive foul. No foul, no call. The defender has a legit complaint for the foul call, IMO. 10. Clearly an offensive foul. The offensive player pushes completely through the defender. Offensive foul, and a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct. 11a. No foul, no call, no flop. Incidental contact. The offensive player is behind the defensive player, and therefore responsible for all contact. He failed to obtain a good rebounding position, and then failed to make a good effort on the rebound. Technical foul for lack of effort. 11b. No foul, but offensive travel. The defender attempts to stop the offensive player, not by legal position, but by obstructing his path without established position, so I might have called it a blocking foul, but the offensive player clearly gathers before he intended to, due to the help defensive who gets a good hand on the ball, resulting in the offensive player's pivot foot coming back into contact with the floor before he can either pass, rise up to shoot, or get the blocking foul. Good help defensive to cause the turn-over. Travel. Work on awareness and handles. Don't turn into the middle, towards the help defense, unless your shooting guard is cutting towards the baseline, and don't try to dribble high through the space of a smaller defender who's used to guarding faster players. However, on looking closer at the play a second time, after breaking down the travel, it might have also been an attempted flop, as the offensive player's momentum had clearly not pushed through the defender that far. It think it's more likely that the defender's chest bump didn't have as much strength as he intended, he underestimated the strength of the offensive player, and he simply bounced off, since the offensive player does not look like he drove through him at all. He's just moving, and the defensive player has decent position. It's hard to tell from that angle, speed, and distance whether it's a blocking foul or a no call, but regardless ... travel. 12. Offensive foul. The offensive player is facing the defender, clearly up underneath the offensive player's relatively stationary center of gravity at the throw-in, and after driving through the defender for two complete steps, and the offensive player finishes by driving him upwards and then backwards another step, fully dislodging him three feet away from his starting legal position. Blatant offensive foul. No flop. Technical foul warning. Stop that before it gets out of hand. It's just bully ball, playing dirty against a smaller, less-aggressive player. 13. No call. Good screen. I thought it was going to be an illegal back-screen set too close the defender, but the screener did get into the defender's field of view before setting the screen. Barely. The defender, though, had no real space to react, resulting in incidental contact. The defender's just a lot bigger than the screener, and the screener tried to use size (which he didn't have), instead of position (which he did have). He set it too close as a surprise screen, without being able to brace for the inevitable contact. Don't set screens that close on a bigger defender when you're trying to surprise them. SMH. You're not Steven Adams. You're barely Wednesday Addams. No call, play on. Lift more weights. ;) 14. FLOP! Give me break, dude. You're leaning backwards even before the contact, hoping that the breeze from the defender going around you will be enough to knock you over. SMH. Yes, they're a better, bigger team, but don't be stupid. 15. (Travel on the receipt of the initial pass! LOL!) But then ... blocking foul! Defender clearly moves forward into the offensive player on the change of direction. The chest bump emphasizes the forward movement. You can't Scottie Pippen chest bump moving backwards, and you can't move forward into the offensive player, if the offensive player is already driving. The Scottie Pippen chest bump is for post play when the offensive player's trying to body you. Above the free-throw line against an actively driving player? Blocking foul every time. No chest bump, and maybe it would have been an offensive foul, but the chest bump in that scenario ensures that you spend some much needed rest time on the ground wondering why your opponent's shooting free throws. There's my take. I await your feedback, Professor! What do you see differently?

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

    That's good footwork.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      I agree! However, the commentary is terrible.😫 -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

    I would go intentional foul. Help me if I'm wrong.

    • @haroldbenjamin5626
      @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

      2 shots and spot the ball at the designated spot nearest the foul.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      Verbage is key! What would be your explanation to the coach as to why you decided to rule an interview foul? -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

    Technical on blue 1. Poor sportsmanship

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      Poor sportsmanship needs to be addressed. With that being said, there will be moments in a game where addressing poor behavior with a technical foul vs. passing information to the individuals who need it in hopes of resolving the matter without a penalty are crucial. So, before giving an unsporting technique foul, just ask yourself, "Was this the only way to handle this?" -The Professor

    • @haroldbenjamin5626
      @haroldbenjamin5626 24 дня назад

      @RefClass I believe in addressing things early on. Sort of nip things in the bud. Assuming this is high school level. I would've given a warning about sportsman ship in my players' meeting and gave the captain's a heads up on controlling these type of team mates, as they know them better than me. I have to double down on my response here. When something like this is directed at an opponents bench.

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

    I say kick ball violation. As the defender jumped l, he intentionally stuck the foot out to deflect the ball during a pass. Inbound in the backcourt at the 28ft mark.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      A kickballb(or any) violation in the backcourt will result in a throw-in nearest to the spot of where the ball was kicked. A kickball (or any) violation in the frontcourt will result in an inbound at one of the 4 designated spots (28 foot sideline or 3 foot endline) nearest to where the ball was kicked. -The Professor

    • @haroldbenjamin5626
      @haroldbenjamin5626 26 дней назад

      Got it, thanks!

  • @juneagapitoverzosajr.1407
    @juneagapitoverzosajr.1407 27 дней назад

    There's an attempt to shot by black 22 so this is not a violation. C. Play On

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      Great explanation on why you would have a play-on as well.👍🏾 -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 28 дней назад

    Professor, this one I really have never understood. Please give me some clarity here. On play 6, the offensive player clearly extends his arm, pushing off of his stationary defender in order to create space. I understand, in practical application, that this is never considered a foul, but everything I know from a rules standpoint tells me that this is a foul. What am I missing? How is this not a foul? Extending the arms to obstruct that path of another player (offensive or defensive) is one of the expressed definitions of a blocking foul. Pushing another player with sufficient force to dislodge their established stationary position is also an integral part of the definition of another type of foul. Again, I know that this is never called, but please explain to me what I'm missing or misunderstanding.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      Rule 4-27 teaches us about incidental contact. Article 1 states: The mere fact that contact occurs does not constitute a foul. So, if the ruling official believed there was displacement that caused the defender to fall in that manner, a foul should be ruled. If not, the defender should be penalized with a flop warning (rule 4-49). -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 26 дней назад

      @@RefClass Okay. Would that mean that if an offensive player grabs a defensive player, and prevents the defensive player from moving, that since there was no displacement, it's not a foul? I had the understanding that any impedance of an opposing player by the use of "arms extended" (meaning, from the elbow, not the shoulder) constituted one form of a blocking foul: "illegally blocking the path of the opponent". Am I incorrect in that understanding? If I'm not, then isn't the offensive player impeding the defensive player from following him by extending his arm into the defensive player's chest a foul, not because he dislodges his opponent, but because he impeded his path with arms extended? Thanks for the conversation on this.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 18 дней назад

      Grabing your opponent is illegal (foul). Displacing your opponent is also illegal (foul). Embellishing incidental contact is a team warning ( team technical foul for each subsequent offense). The impedance of an opponent with extended arms and elbows are all forms of blocking fouls. The shoulder would depend on the legal guarding position prior to the point of contact. Officials are trained to determine the legal/illegal status of the defender prior to the point of contact. This helps to determine which player committed the foul. Legal defender = no foul. Illegal defender = foul. Both players committing illegal acts = double foul. Incidental contact followed by embellishment by either/both players in an attempt to fool the official into calling a foul = flop/fake being fouled warning. -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 18 дней назад

      @@RefClass Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate it, and it seems to corroborate my understanding, that since White 5 directly impedes Black 3's movement by extending his arm (by pushing off), it's a blocking foul by White 5, followed by (potential) embellishment by Black 3. There "might" be embellishment by Black 3 in order to highlight the blocking foul by White 5 (but not in an attempt "fool" the official, so not a flop, and just bringing attention to White 5's blocking foul), but would "definitely" be a foul by White 5, since White 5 clearly and strongly pushes off of Black 3 with arm fully extended, with the obvious (and effective) attempt to create space by impeding Black 3's movement. So, again, since White 5 is directly impeding Black 3's movement with "arms extended", how is this not a blocking foul by White 5? I apologize if I come across as argumentative, as I sincerely do not intend to be. I honestly don't understand (especially after your explanation that seems to me to confirm that my understanding is correct) what you're seeing that I'm missing.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 18 дней назад

      ​@jamesday3591 No need to apologize. Let's go over the checklist. Did White #5 contact Black #3, yes. Was the contact incidental or illegal? This is what we have to decide as officials. Did White #5 shove Black #3, or did Black #3 embellish the incidental contact in hopes of getting the official to rule a team-control foul? What you see is what you see. The more games you work, the more videos you see, and the more training camps you attend will help put you in a position to properly rule on plays like this. The NFHS association wants us to clean up plays such as this. Prior to the inbound, the Primary ruling official obtained a dependable position to properly officiate this play. After the contact was made and Black #5 went down, the official gesture to the him to get up. The official did not deem the contact by White #5 to be illegal. Therefore, he should rule a flop warning. -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Player Control Foul on White 5.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 26 дней назад

      I've watched this play over and over, my friend. With that being said, I can see why the ruling official (along with you) ruled a player-control foul. My opinion on this play is flop warning. That contact didn't cause the defender to fly back in that manner. I see incidental contact on this play (IMO). I respect your opinion, and thanks for responding.🫡 -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 26 дней назад

      @@RefClass Good conversation. What I see is White 5 planting his feet underneath, and actually all the way through and even slightly behind, Blue 3's feet, clearly inside of Blue 3's solidly established legal position. If White 5's feet stopped in front of Blue 3's, then I would agree that it's incidental contact warranting a flop warning on Blue 3. However, since Blue 3 does not move forward into White, and White 5 attempts to establish a legal position inside of Blue 3's already established position, White 5's incursion into Blue 5's established space results in one of the two of them giving up that space. White 5's placement of his feet, to me, clearly dislodges Blue 3 from his established position. It's more than incidental contact (White 5 is attempting to occupy Blue 3's established position), and White 5 is clearly responsible for the contact that dislodges Blue 3. Again, it's White 5's placement of his feet fully inside Blue 3's stationary position that leads me to call the foul on White 5. Considering where White 5 intentionally placed his feet, it would be absolutely impossible for Blue 3 to maintain his position, unless Blue 3 were to actively push White 5 out of Blue 3's space. IMO, the decision of foul or no-foul cannot be a result of either strength or aggression, but rather *has* to be one of position. Thoughts? What do you see differently? Do you believe that both Blue 3 and White 5 could have remained in their respective positions considering where White 5 placed his feet, without one of them giving up their legal space?

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    A, B, and D. C is what Charles Barkley did that led the institution of that five-second rule. ;)

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Play on. Legal movement into the lane is based on the free-throw shooter, not other players. Never heard of baiting ever being even addressed, much less illegal. Am I mistaken?

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      Rule 9-1-3 b. explains this situation. -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 24 дня назад

      @@RefClass So I just read all of Rule 9, beginning to end. I see diconcertion of the free-throw shooter (by an opponent of the free-throw shooter), and I see faking a free-throw (by the free-throw shooter), but I see no reference at all to a teammate of the free-throw shooter baiting an opponent during a free-throw. Am I missing something?

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Play on. No intent.

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Play on.

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    What level and what year? That rule has changed a couple of times. ;) Currently, (college and above, I believe), it's a play on. Used to be a travel, if the ball doesn't touch the backboard, rim, or another player, but as long as it's deemed a legitimate shot attempt, it's fine under current rules (but I'm not sure if that also applies at the high school level or not).

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      Caseplay 4.44 Situation B. is where you can find the answer to this clip. -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    I would say play on, but potentially a blocking foul (though kind of light). On white's back-down, which is controlled decently fluid, black (blue?) pops both his feet forward into the vertical space of white's body, creating additional contact while having given up a legal guarding position by moving forward into the offensive player's legally established space.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      At face value, this play looks difficult to officiate. Rule of thumb: Go with your gut. And your explanation should match your reason of why you blew your whistle or decided on a no-call. For example: Legal defender (not a foul), legal move by the offensive player with no displacement (not a player-control foul). I observed incidental contact on that play (rule 4-27). The defender did not flop (rule 4-49-1). -The Professor

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Flop warning. Black's motion is inconsistent with White 5's motion.

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    On #6, at this level of play (if I understand correctly), I would agree that it's an offensive charge. However, at higher levels, where the restricted area is instituted, that would be a blocking foul, IMO. Relevant factors: the offensive player starts his move outside of the LDB (Lower Defensive Block). The defensive player establishes a stationary position inside the Restricted Area, which is a three- or four-foot semi-circle (approximately a semi-circle, but not quite) from the center of the basket (three- or four-foot, depending on level of play). The defensive player and the offensive player come into contact while at least one of the defender's feet is in contact with the ground. If all three of those conditions are present, that's a blocking foul when the Restricted Area is relevant. I don't see a marking on the floor for the Restricted Area, so I expect that it's not instituted in this league, but black's position is definitely (IMO) inside even the smaller Restricted Area without any question at all. I consider one of the stronger elements of my game to be my willingness (eagerness even) to take a charge against anyone, no matter their size, speed, or physicality, even in pick-up games where I would never actually "call" a charge, but even in those pick-up games, I'm always cognizant of the Restricted Area, and never attempt to take a charge there. Ever. The Restricted Area was instituted to prevent injuries, since there really is only one direction for the offensive player to go that close to the basket, and that's towards the basket and up, if they're driving. If they start their move inside the LDB (Lower Defensive Block), the Restricted Area doesn't apply, so it's only on a drive to the basket (mostly, with some kind of funny exceptions). On #6, black takes a good charge, but I fear that he might not understand how he needs to adapt that positioning for higher levels of play. :( Thoughts, Professor?

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      When officiating a certain level, we (officials) must apply the rules pertaining to that level. NFHS (high school & middle school), CCA (college), ABA (simi-pro), FIBA (international), and NBA (United Stated pro league) all share the same basic rules, but have their our unique set of specific rules and caseplays for officials to uphold. Applying a college rule on a block/charge play in a high school game will back will not go well. Coaches won't understand and rightfully lash out. Your partners will have a difficult time matching your play call selection, which will throw the crew chemistry off. And you will separate yourself in the worst way amongst your fellow officials during the season. Case in point, you will never catch an NBA official applying a NFHS (high school) rule in their game. If he does, he will likely lose his job. -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 24 дня назад

      @@RefClass I 100% agree, and would add that we need to know what rules differ at different levels of play in order to have the confidence to make calls (and appropriately address criticism) according to the level of the game of the moment. Know the level. Know the rules at each level. Make calls according to the level of the moment. Be able to address criticisms that apply to a different level of play.

  • @jamesday3591
    @jamesday3591 29 дней назад

    Hey, Professor, I see (and agree with) your decisions on all the calls, except for 8. Perhaps I'm missing something. Is it the forearm contact above the free-throw line extended that leads you to the foul decision on black, even though the offensive player has already passed the ball? That's the only thing that I can see that might lead you to that call. What am I missing?

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass 24 дня назад

      Black #2 impeded white #3's freedom of movement by placing his forearm into his opponents chest. This act is illegal and should be penalized. Rule 4-24 teaches us about legal and illegal contact. -The Professor -The Professor

    • @jamesday3591
      @jamesday3591 24 дня назад

      @@RefClass So the foul by Black 2 is due the forearm into the chest, and White 3's shove afterward is either a no call, because it's after the play has stopped, or a potentially technical, but in either case, play stopped with Black 2's forearm? Correct?

  • @allenhart8256
    @allenhart8256 29 дней назад

    Play on

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 Месяц назад

    Play on. No violation. Legal play.

  • @markusholzer3795
    @markusholzer3795 Месяц назад

    Play-On

  • @chrisbitoy2686
    @chrisbitoy2686 Месяц назад

    5 seconds.good call. Another thing - y’all young hoopers need to learn the game and not just moves .

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    I believe it's 2 second. Since no fouls occurred. I would definitely let the coach know before inbounding the ball. If it's Varsity, I'm not saying anything. Coach should know.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      Do you have information to support your answer? Are you basing your answer off of high school basketball (NFHS), men's/women's college basketball (CCA), international basketball(FIBA), or U.S.A. professional basketball (NBA)? -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    Jump ball. The defender clearly blocked the ball from being pased or shot. The offensive player never let the ball go, and came back down to the floor with the ball. We will have a jump ball!

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      Held ball.👍🏾 -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    Foul on black. Push in the back. You can already see the displacement of the player in white while attempting to rebound...easy call.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      Excellent verbage!😁 -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    Play on. By rule he never patted or pushed the ball down. He simply stopped the ball from the side. And then established his dribble. Bad call ref!

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      We (officials) win some, and we lose some. I've lost my fair share, that's for sure. Watching videos can help us be honest with ourselves while improving in the process.😉 -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    3 I believe. Regardless of the made shot. The foul was upgraded to intentional, and the attempt was a 3. Then we inbound the ball at the spot nearest where the foul occured.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      A made 3 point shot vs. a missed 3 point shot during an intentional foul determines the amount of free-throws the offended player will receive. This play doesn't occur often. But in case it does, knowing will set you apart from the rest.😉 -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    Play on...no real displacement, and no effect on the shot.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      Unlike a drive to the basket, a free-throw shooter needs the same amount of protection as an airborne shooter. So, what looks like "no real displacement" against a vulnerable opponent needs to be officiated accordingly. -The Professor

    • @haroldbenjamin5626
      @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

      I get it, and I agree. However, the shooter never went airborne. The contact wasn't egregious or overly physical. And she didn't get under the shooter to block on a landing. All contact isn't a foul, and I just a bump on the blockout. I would let this play on. However, if she had gotten underneath an airborne shooter during an attempt to blackout, I would blow on this to protect the airborne shooter.

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    Player control. It's not abt timing. It's abt did he legally establish himself prior to contact, that being with his torso fully facing the ball handler.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      You are correct about the time and distance required to obtain legal guarding distance on a ball handler. This caseplay description can be found by reading rules and caseplay number 4-23-3 of the NFHS basketball rulebook and casebook. -The Professor

  • @haroldbenjamin5626
    @haroldbenjamin5626 Месяц назад

    C...once the shotter has the ball, we are live. Timeout will be granted after the shot is made, or if requesting team possess ball after attempt.

    • @RefClass
      @RefClass Месяц назад

      You are correct pertaining to when the ball becomes. Can a team be granted a time-out during live ball? If so, which? -The Professor