Can You Fake Schizophrenia?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Myself, and others living with mental illness are often accused of faking. In this video, I discuss this issue as well as get in to the issue of when someone really is faking having a mental illness.
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hello All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. If you have the time and resource s goe get a bible
I've made people very angry with this one. I've had this or the start of it since I was 8 or so. I did poorly in school, wouldn't socialize and talked about odd things. I also learned that you see imaginary things with your eyes, not the outside world, as when I put my glasses on as a kid, I couldn't see them. By this point, you'll learn that many of us are what they would call residual in that experiences come and go. I'm also tricked by talking to objects. That's partly being in isolation because I've never fit in, and I don't have the usual experiences of my peers. And to bring back the age of whatever, it fused with my personality over the years, so it's difficult for them to know. Lately, I've been trying to remember what psychosis feels like, and I seem to be blocked or thinking that it's a painfully bliss place with a fever's love.
Maybe you should do a video on the dangers of self-diagnosing, just a thought. Big supporter. Love your channel♥
I struggle with my schizophrenia affective disorder lately just got out of the mental hospital again the new medication hasn’t been helping much had it since I was 20 years old thanks for listening
I'm so embarrassed cuz I do most of those things😱 especially the ouch thing
My brother is institutionalized with schizoaffective disorder at age 59, and he is a forgotten and even a feared person. Yet he is the nicest person. He would do anything for others. His kind way surpasses mine.
Thank god he has a place to be.
I hope he will be free.
Do you feel that he should NOT be institutionalized?
I want to pray for him I wanna pray that the Lord God heal him and free him in a way that he is at peace and a part of his family and a part of society redeemed the time. God bless him. I feel all the love for your brother and for you and your family.
You’re brother is the real deal when we are talking schizophrenia. This is the one deserving of attention then those that are displaying their life for likes and attention. It’s insulting to those that are the real deal like your brother that needs the treatment and proper care
Please don’t listen to the naysayers. You are an incredible help to me as the mom of a son that has schizoaffective.
It basically boils down to "well, you don't LOOK like you have schizophrenia." I may not have schizophrenia, but I was work friends with someone who has schizophrenia. I never would've guessed that they had schizophrenia. I just thought they were really quiet.
Next time someone says that you should ask them, "what does schizophrenia look like?" Make them think. We all know the answer, you can't tell someone has schizophrenia just by looking at them. Hopefully they get it.
That’s what someone recently told me. They thought I was just really shy. Ever since I was diagnosed with schizophrenia I always feel like it is noticeable that I’m different or weird. But most people I open up to say they would have never guessed that.
Same logic as accusing someone of not being autistic because they don't "look" autistic. Because I don't present like your 5 year old white kid? What do you think autism looks like then?
I actually deal with this. Not so much looking but not sounding cognitively impaired.
WHY ON EATTH DO PEOPLE HAVE TO JUSTIFY THEIR ILLNESSES TO ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILIES?!
We cross people who have mental illnesses/neurodivergents/personality disorders every day and most of them seem so well put together that we don't even notice, while most of the ones we would have noticed are at home, or hospitalized, or in jail, or dead, we get to see very few people that have _obvious_ problems.
If the person is fit together, they are not mentally ill.
@agressia5582
That is my point. Some people may seem fit together and "functional", but they really aren't, and we wouldn't know immediately. The ones that have obvious problems usually aren't out there, at least not at school or at work, most of the time. I know a guy who has only partial hearing, he speaks sorta funny but you couldn't tell he doesn't hear well and struggles a lot throughout the day trying to make sense of what people say and to avoid trouble like getting run over because didn't hear the car coming from an angle he couldn't see (and couldn't hear either _because_ he is semi-deaf).
Is there something else you want to add?
I think the whole thing of "faking" is so convoluted because "faking" can refer to so many very different things: being mistaken/confused/wrong, or ficticious disorder, or malingering, or iatrogenic issues, or conversion disorder. So then people talk past each other and get nowhere.
I love these videos. There is a stereotype that people with schizophrenia can't function so it's important for the information that you and others are putting out on RUclips. I'm learning sooo much.
Keeping the paranoid thoughts in check takes a lot of work, and a strong mental. Meds help, but having them pop up from time to time due to stress is a constant struggle. So, for some people to actually be faking this mental disorder for attention is quite the depressing idea
I am so sad this is happening to you. The information you share is helpful and I look forward to watching you as often as I can.
Never feel guilt for high functioning because you work hard to manage your life.
Thank you for your videos and your channel.
You're inspiring and educating.
Ik it wasn't for me but I needed this as well❤ so thank you
If someone was faking schizophrenia then they probably have some serious mental issues...so either way the person has a mental illness...my opinion
I appreciate this channel, I knew a couple people in my past that suffered with schizophrenia and this channel has helped me to understand it all on a deeper level, God bless you!
This reminds me of a legal case where a guy plead insanity. And they discovered he actually wasn't insane and ended up sending him to a mental facility. And then he legitimately went insane. The irony
I really appreciate how you show empathy towards people who might be faking or malingering or who might just be confused and lack experience concerning the illness or condition they self identify with.
I think another reason why some people might be faking mental or physical illnesses is that they feel like their struggles aren't 'valid' otherwise.
For example if you say 'I have depression ' instead of 'I feel really sad' , other people are more inclined to take your feelings seriously.
Reaching that point where so much has happened that when people call you fake its almost hilarious is a silver lining that should be celebrated. At that point whether you have a mental illness or not, like you said, there is definitely something going on and that was the best answer you currently had for it.
I also wonder what makes people so prone to accusing others of faking. Yes, it happens, but it's hardly the norm. I have lupus and get accused of faking flares even when I have visible, measurable symptoms. It baffles me how easy it is for able-bodied, neurotypical people to authoritatively malign experiences they're entirely ignorant of.
This is a really compassionate video Lauren. You’ve touched on everything I talk about when having this discussion with other people both online and off.
I'm so grateful that you and Amateur Aries shared your symptoms on here because I was convinced I wasn't schizophrenic until you both described symptoms that I have, that no one really knows about schizophrenia unless you have it or specialize in it. I think malingering with schizophrenia is harder to do than people think.
It's a complex illness. You can be aware of the real world but youre walking a thin line between realities. I would go back and forth all rhe time so it confused my friends when they found out, but they also weren't surprised when they considered a lot of my strange or "quirky" behaviors in the past.
Malingering is hard and most people who do it are trying to avoid prison time.
Yeah, it's so dangerous for people to tell you they think you're faking when a lot of the time we can't see it ourselves. It's something I always wonder about myself as well and question myself about. My aunt calls my issues just "severe anxiety" and this has made me regret opening up about my diagnosis to her; there was a time when I believed her, because she convinced me there was nothing wrong with me, she couldn't even say "schizophrenia" etc and it alienated a lot of people in my life because I thought the rest were lying to me and my aunt was the only one telling the truth.
Anosognosia is so damaging too and feeding that delusion can be and is so detrimental.
Thanks Lauren, as always. ❤
If you suspect someone fakes this illness........force them to take the awful meds for it and find out.
Ha I'm schizophrenic... Yes put them on the injection... Some meds made me so hungry I gained 30kg and couldn't wake up in the morning ever... Those are just the "easy" side effects to deal with 🙃
I'd rather not gamble my mental health against my physical health.
@alexandermatthews2470 I also have Schizophrenia and I have also experienced these side effects, and I agree that if people are gonna fake something so serious then they should take the medication and see the reason why people shouldn't fake mental illness
I am going to tell you an anecdote. I suffer from ADHD and Bipolar disorder with psychosis features. I have no idea why, only stimulants work on me. The bipolar meds I got didn’t work on me. I had a lot of side effects. I got to the point to stop taking those capsules to function in my daily routine. I was so drowsy and I had a lot of involuntary body movements. Unfortunately, meds can cause you several side effects, even if you had the mental disorder. Every body responds differently to meds, regarding if you have a mental disorder or you fake it. It is really sad when someone fake something serious like a mental disorder for money, fame, pity, attention, or whatever reason. Having schizophrenia, ADHD, borderline isn’t a joke.
@@Theyoutuberpolyglot Thank you for sharing your story.
I'm 45 and been ill since 1996.ive had enough. Life is hard with our illness.
You speak the truth I almost don’t want to say more because there is so much to say but I feel you and I’m going to be praying for you. I hope that doesn’t make you angry. I know that that’s made me angry and right now I have a lot of increased hopeand I’m just asking God for his peace like that’s the biggest gift but we all need peace and I’m praying for your peace
May the lord keep his hand on you and fill your every need 🙏
Keep doing what you're doing Lauren! I felt so alone in my schizoaffective diagnosis. I was diagnosed (by a psychiatrist) pre-internet and it was incredibly isolating. I just wanted thank you for all your good work.
While I don’t have the same diagnosis that you do, I have fought my way from being extremely unwell mentally towards experiencing a fairly solid mental health life. I find you to be incredibly credible having watched your content for several years. I truly appreciate your work. ❤
People can be ridiculous! I hope you don't take these accusations personally; it's more about them not about you! Your channel helps so many dealing with this illness or people who have people in their lives with schizophrenia.
Thanks for this video, Lauren. I’m sorry that there are people who would accuse you of faking such a severe illness. I’ve struggled with severe depression and anxiety for most of my life, but I’m very good at “faking it until you make it.” Most people have never seen me face down on the bathroom floor sobbing into the linoleum, so I’ve run into skeptics over the years who doubt the severity of my mental illness. Love your channel and appreciate all that you do. ❤
this is a really insightful video, & you’re the first creator i’ve seen discuss this topic. i’ve been experiencing auditory hallucinations recently & i haven’t been open with my treatment team about it yet, in part because i’m afraid they will think i’m faking it. i’ve been accused online of faking my very real, diagnosed BPD for attention & it was a horrible feeling.
to be totally honest mental illnesses are MENTAL which people really don’t understand it’s only something a person with a mental illness and insight on their illness can understand you choose what u want to show the world symptoms won’t always be prevalent at least physically when people aren’t monitored 24/7 it’s really just ableism from others
I think there are more people on the schizo spectrum that present well like you, or at least present pretty well enough to function almost normal with meds! Very few are homeless on the street talking to themselves...But the thing is we the "high functioning ones" just have real jobs and we would die if anyone found out because of the stigma and embarrassment!! So we don't post it or put it out there enough to normalize it/ demystify or destigmatize the illness as maybe we should...But then if we all did, you my fair lady wouldn't be as popular or filling such a huge need! I am happy for you! And people need to stop saying you're faking and the real fakers need to stop lying and get a real conscience, they are misrepresenting us! Best Wishes Lauren keep up the good work!🎉
This is such a nuanced and compassionate take, and I really appreciate that you’re acknowledging all the sides of this conversation about “faking it.” Your point that life is hard for everyone, and some people might just be looking for acknowledgement of that in some way, was really impactful to me.
I heard it before. "You're the sanest person I know!" And I often question if I am faking it. My illness however, is obvious to other people. So sometimes my loved ones will tell me "look, you did/said this/that. Remember what happens when you get off your meds" But you're not faking it, the specific symptoms and behaviors you've shared and the way your mind works, it's very similar to my own experience. Mental illness can be so invisible sometimes, especially with people who have better social skills (and skills can be acquired!). It's just so misunderstood.
I love when people tell me that I am high functioning and don't realize that all my vacation leave is used for mental health. Or they don't realize that the reason why they can't get under my skin because I work in a lot of industrial industries is because nobody More critical about me than me.
Even if you were faking, which I don’t believe you are, you present accurate, non-sensationalized information about schizophrenia spectrum illnesses. Ignore the naysayers and keep living your real, messy, difficult, beautiful life!
I feel empowered by your videos. Your bravery, insight, and honesty have been tremendously helpful to my own mental state. Personally, I suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder, severe depression, anxiety, and ADD. I'm so glad that you've created a platform to educate people about mental illness. Thank you for all of this.
So many great points! I applaud your recommendation to believe people when they talk about their symptoms. For neuro typical people it may be hard to know what questions to ask, but that's what RUclips is for.
This is such an incredibly insightful video, and so full of empathy and understanding even towards those who may not be approaching you the same way. You seem like a wonderful person.
I’ve been dealing with this lately. Coming from a family that is baptist they don’t accept my diagnosis even though I see doctors. No one supports me and think it’s fake. It hurts.
Praying for you and for them this is very hard it’s hard because I have family that are doctors and agnostic but often times they still don’t think I have anything and I don’t want to think I have anything but then I have Christian friends who think I don’t have anything in a spiritual and I want to believe them and I’m gonna try, but I’m also worried about that because that could be very irresponsible so I’m just I’m praying for everyone everyone
Ultimately in this side of the world we won't know the percentage split of supernatural and not supernatural. It is true Satan is every where but your bond with Jesus is stronger.
You read God's word, pray with Him and develope the relationship and your faith will become stronger yet you will or may always struggle with body and mind battles.
1. First understand all you can about your struggles. Talk to Your Pastor or a health provider in your church
2. Pray
3. Make a Plan to Communicate
4. Find the most willing in your family as an advocate
5. If no such thing, then give the best explanation in grace and move on in the light of God
I've been there
It's Not with Our Power or Will ,
But the Power and Will of God working through Us
Praying with you All,
my Brothers & Sisters in Christ
Hey Rory, that sounds really, really hard. I hope you can find support, maybe with online support groups. It is really hard when the people around you deny your reality, not just your reality, but THE reality. Wishing you well and sending you love.
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isnt having some specific Bible also be construed as "organized religion" like "KJV only"...?
praying to God daily even though not a sin if you don't is one way to develope ur relationship with Him.
@@matjazcigut4589
Jefferson ripped pages out of the Judeo-Christian Bible.
...and what does number of pages have to do with validity or veracity....?
Thank you Lauren for including the level of nuance you did, this was a really kind and well researched video.
I'm very sorry that people are so uncompassionate towards you. I want to believe it only comes from hurt, not malice. You are wonderful and I am very thankful for the time and effort to showcase the reality of mental illness from perspective I wouldn't otherwise be privy to. You are wonderful and brave - I wish people understood that exposure increases empathy and understanding. To see, hear, to acknowledge, to understand is to humanise,to empathize. We need to fight the stigma mental illness still carries.
Thank You, from the bottom of my heart ❤
BOOM!!! Wow!!! Excellent Video!!! THIS!!! I swear I was talking about this today!!! BRILLIANTLY explained in detail!!! I agree Mental illnesses are “over exaggerated forms of human emotion and human experience”. And add neurodivergence to the mix. The world needs more people as insightful as you. And YES, LIFE IS FUCKING HARD!!!
Edit: Lauren, If you add to your analysis the effects of collective trauma (wars, natural disasters, pandemics) I think you could have a thesis here for the increase in visibility in mental disorders in social media.
I’m 54 and there are many reasons I don’t create a channel for support
I struggle with self esteem
I’m living in poverty and can’t afford clothes or a washing machine and therefore most of the time the clothes I have don’t match or fit properly
I’m embarrassed by my appearance as my teeth have fallen apart from undiagnosed malnutrition and I’m hunch back and other things from scoliosis and other chronic progressive conditions
My speech is horrible
Because of my teeth I can’t even say my own name properly
Anxiety
Even just by myself knowing I’m talking to people makes me scatter brained so I forget words and lose my thoughts and jumble them up
I end up sounding even less educated than I am
My presentation
I come off sounding very arrogant and bitter and I make weird noises from wheezing
I have a harsh tone because I’m in pain and keep forgetting words and thoughts frustrating me and I’m having trouble breathing when I talk
I’m overly sensitive
Definitely not able to take criticism well especially/ mostly if it’s done in a demeaning way such as
Are you really that stupid
I don’t lie and so many people lie on the internet that if you sound unsure or confused or have difficulty with details and misspeak about something but say it correctly elsewhere it’s easier for people to assume you’re making it up as you go along and lying
I think you get the idea
I’m really struggling
I’ve been getting psychiatric treatment since my 20s when I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety without anything except an attempted suicide and a 5 minute chat when first arriving at the hospital
I’m now 54 and every new counselor or psychiatrist just uses that diagnosis and tells me things like hearing voices and seeing things aren’t relevant to my treatment because eventually I figure out on my own that they’re not real
What they don’t take into consideration is that through group therapy and studying college psychology books and trial and error I’ve figured out how to test if it’s real or not when I see something that doesn’t make sense or shouldn’t be there and sometimes it takes a while and it’s scary and disturbing until I figure 😢it out
There are many more reasons but I’ve already written a short story
If you’ve actually read all of this I sincerely want to Thank You for sharing the information you share
I have no idea what’s going on with me but I definitely find some of the things you share very helpful and interesting so Thank You Very Much 🥰
I think the genuine intentions of “Living well with schizophrenia” were made clear when Lauren emphasized that we (the consumer) should consult with a professional instead of making a self diagnosis based on what we hear/ see on social media, or read on the internet. Thank you so much for educating us about mental health- mainly schizophrenia- and thank you for sharing your personal journey with us!
Thankfully for all you do for making us to understand
Thank you for all the videos. As a psyche nurse who works with these types of conditions it helps me a lot in managing their situation🙏
Thank you Thank you! this one was a long time in coming though I do understand your reluctance to address this issue. I've had SZ for more than 35 years. It took me 5 years to be convinced enough to take meds. Something that I thought of while you were presenting is that even MORE education needs to happen because having hallucinations might seem cool to a teenager yet truthfully, they often do not know about the other parts of this illness like the social components and how it completely changes all of the personal relationships you have, being thought of as less than because of your mental illness, the confusion about everyday life, the awful meds, the loneliness, the lack of help and the misunderstanding that happens. Its really pretty crappy when people think that because they don't see you in the throws of an episode, you must not have it.
I am very concerned about the mental health of anyone who has accused you of or even questioned youre faking. There is a problem with those people, maybe paranoia or extreme distrust
Right it's not us it's them
I think their main problem is they like to be the Sherlock who accused a person of faking waaaaay before any controversy came out. That way, if a person is later cancelled for being fake they can brag to their friends that they knew all along and even left accusatory comments years ago. Therefore they are now superior.
I don't think people quite think it through that thoroughly but it's a very common pattern of behavior on sites with a lot of anonymity and lying like reddit.
There is a reason to be careful when someone publicly states he is ill/disabled. Currently, there are lot of people who fake illness or even purposely crimple themselves, in order to gain attention. Reasons could be monetary, but also all of this "disabled worship" in the media and corporate propaganda. So, a bit of caution is perfectly understandable.
Oh dear
Just wanted to say thank you. I do find your videos very informative, especially the ones about your experience. Those type of videos are why I use this platform for research. You can only learn so much from the literature.
As far as the Faking It issue goes, I would say if you experience any of the symptomology it is a good idea to get checked out. The symptoms range from very mild to extreme. Even if you have the very mild symptoms you could still technically qualify for the diagnosis. That's why I think self-diagnosis is actually important, otherwise you wouldn't know to track those symptoms in the first place.
Thank you for all your videos :-) Your openness and talent for articulation have helped me so much in my own journey. Doctors have their place, but they are not a complete solution, at least not for me.
I question myself all the time especially when I have been on an antipsychotic for a while but then when I come off of it and slip into psychosis and it reminds me. It’s hard for people that don’t know me well to understand because when I am doing well I am very productive and if they are seeing me then it means I am doing well. Especially if they see me hypomanic when I am full of energy and productive. Keep sharing because it helps people like me relate and feel that there are other people experiencing this.
I have schizoaffective, and one of the hardest things about medication for me is that when it is working, I feel like a faker. I have to constantly remind myself that I am ill and not a liar or fraud. It's part of why those who fake the illness for any variety of purposes are so frustrating to me. This illness is awful and there is so much bad that can come with it, including harm from others. Please, for those who aren't sure, look into a proper diagnosis so you can know. It's not worth faking.
Lauren has been diagnosed.
@@Catlily5I’m aware she does. This wasn’t meant to be directed to Lauren, but as a plea to others who are either faking or are unsure.
@@kylejansen7281 Oh, ok!
About four years ago I started to have suspicion that I might have some dissociative disorder. I went to the psychiatrist and they diagnosed me first with ADHD and then ASD. I believe those diagnoses are correct. They truly changed my life and helped me deeply. Particularily the ASD community accepts the self-diagnosis as valid and such people are welcome in the community. Ironically I still think I might have some dissociative disorder but that's a tale for different time.
As someone with ASD, I have found that dissociation can come from masking. Each time I mask too much I feel disconnected from my body and reality. I don’t mask like that anymore.
Thank you for speaking to this issue. I cannot imagine hearing these comments and how that impacts your mental health. I am late diagnosed ASD/ADHD and it's so invalidating when people say things like "you don't seem/look autistic". Neurodivergent people are really good at masking/hiding symptoms to fit in, and there is so much under the surface that people do not see. Also - as a Psychotherapist, I think someone who does choose to fake a mental illness for attention is indicative of some sort of mental health struggle in and of itself.
Hi Stephanie, I am moderately autistic and I don't think anyone would guess. It comes out in clumsiness (which most people aren't around for) and being kinda blunt with my opinions (which I have learned to contain, over the years). Yet I know it's there. I don't really expect other people to understand me, but then I am almost 60. I remember being hurt when I was younger, yes, it was really invalidating.
I was dx with D.I.D in 2020 and it was really amazing I felt free I finally had correct DX, and could start working in the correct problem finally, it was scary cause as I started coming out to a few friends, I was told about all the people faking D.I.D on tiktok. I've gone back to not talking about it. The stigma is so brutal.
Sorry about that.
Agreed. I have a few dxs and I have also gone to keeping them to myself. I have one good friend who knows all but have family members who I have not told everything too. Years ago I told a few people who seemed very understanding at first but who then used my mental health issues against me.
God bless you for being so informative, kind and forgiving!! ❤️ 📖 ✝️
Hi Lauren What a great Topic today. It has alot of layer's. You did a wonderful job articulating all the issues. Thanks Lauren
i truly appreciate your insights. i was just reevaluated by a new psychiatrist bc i wanted to see where i was with my old Bipolar 2 diagnosis. i managed to avoid it the last several years, but now i have persistent psychosis that's lasted a long time. i have ptsd and i'm learning that schizophrenia can come from trauma, and boy do i have a lot of it. my psychosis seems to revolve around the trauma. your video caught my eye bc i have this weird imposter syndrome where i feel like i don't actually have these diagnosed disorders, i'm a giant fake, i should have my benefits stripped, and my meds that help me taken away. but i've never been accused of faking or malingering except by my mom who knew nothing of mental health. she had to be educated by my therapist who basically told her she was ignorant and they had ways of weeding out the liars, but not in those words lol this new psychiatrist said, on her short list of considerations, C-PTSD, Bipolar 2, or Schizophrenia. could be any one of them.
Okay. Take two. I am older and not extremely internet savvy, so i dont know where the comment I was writing went.
So, our young adult human ( non binary) shared your you tubes with me.
My dear, your work is very very precious. I appreciate so much what you are doing. I only wish you were around(and the Internet for that matter) when I was a kid. My grandfather, my father, my brother, and my son were all diagnosed with schizophrenia; well, my son eventually w/ schizo effective disorder. So much I would tell you. Not now. Just please know, sweet girl, that you are helping a 65 year old mom understand even more, and Love even better. We always say, " We love whoever walks in the door, just keep us updated". I just figured out how to comment, my first. This moves me to tears, happy tears ❤
You have helped me so much the last few years. I have a son who has schizophrenia, bipolar, anxiety and depression. He has been through hell with this. He is getting his own apartment on Tuesday. I am hoping and praying he is able to start a fresh beginning now that he’s back on his meds. You are an amazing person to put yourself through all of this…. I have always felt your genuine struggle…. Thank you
I’ve followed this channel since the beginning and it really bothers me that a) people have accused you of faking and b) you feel compelled to post videos of yourself at your most vulnerable to prove your diagnosis is legitimate. You do not owe anyone your lowest moments just because some people don’t understand that being white, educated, conventionally attractive, and having a modicum of class privilege don’t preclude a person from having a serious mental illness. There are layers of internalized stigma within the mental illness community about needing to present a certain way that even people who claim to be advocates don’t address within themselves. Psychosis does not have a “look,” and it isn’t your job-or anyone else’s-to perform severe, debilitating symptoms publicly just to satisfy someone’s backward, limiting idea of how THEY think your illness should manifest, as if other patients are the damn arbiters of what constitutes real suffering. Great video.
I appreciate this. I like how there was no "taking sides" or pointing the finger at anyone and acknowledging that people who are "faking" are surely going through _something_ . I agree that mental illness is a lot of the regular human experience amplified to a higher degree.
Thanks for sharing. Appreciate you.
While our family member is able to work with medication and therapy, we are up all night when he is up all night having his battles, yelling, and negotiations and telling them to leave him alone so he can sleep for work. 2-3 nights a week, putting things around the home and outside in the wee hours of the morning, lights on. I dont think this can be faked. We have sleepless nights too. I feel everyone would love a "normal" life, if they knew what is "normal". I happen to know others who suffer from this.
I also have had extensive conversations with someone who is paranoid OCD. That person would LOVE to not have to live what she is living through at her 52nd years now. It brings her to tears
that she does what she does because of the paranoia. So, my heart goes out to anyone suffering from any kind of mental illness. Who am I to question? Just have love, care, empathy and understanding. Take care.🙏❤
Exceptionally thoughtful, sympathetic, and articulate - as always.
I really love your channel Lauren and I so appreciate you. I have 2 relatives diagnosed with schizophrenia. I appteciate what you share with the public. 💖🌹
I wish every person in the world would watch the short you included. The more people self diagnose the less people who actually are diagnosed get the help and attention they need. I love your videos and everyone here is so grateful for all the lives you change.
That was an incredibly eloquent way to discuss this subject that I haven’t really seen people talk about at all or with the same sensitivity, that was really brilliant thank you
Also i love your top the color is amazing
I have also been accused of faking every once in a while. People have a preconceived idea of how someone with a schizophrenia diagnosis behaves. They're surprised when I am higher functioning than they expect.
I love u keep going. I suffer from paronid scitzprinia and I can relate so much from u London UK. It's mad I was on the bus today and I saw a woman just like u. Anyway keep going sis
I worked in forensics setting before my mental health crisis and transition into healthcare and I have encountered people who were malingering - faking disorders to escape justice system, even if for a second (usually this meant serving their time in hospital).
They shared some characteristics with people who "pretend for attention", but their reasons were more... grounded,I suppose, more tangible. Unfortunately for many people on this path (conflict with the law), exaggeration and even full out faking can be the only way to get any attention and help from overloaded, often cruel, classist system (which would also be easiest if we weren't a monoethnic country). Compassion was always a better response regardless of circumstances and I want to thank You for this thoughtful video. This often occurs when people feel.. invisible. Not special enough on their own.
The reason why some people would accuse someone of faking a mental illness is that some people just have no empathy and maybe because they have no empathy they are just stupid and lack understanding of what others are dealing with or going through, so, they resort to accusations that are of no value to anyone at all. I know someone with scizophrenia, from listening to your experience and knowledge about it, I can see that you obviously know what it is all about and I see no reason to doubt your honest objective and constructive approach to dealing with it. I am especially interested in what kind of results you will see from your organized and well thought out approach to applying what you learned from Dr. Chris Palmer in regards to the ketogenic diet and other practices to develop healthy mitochondria and healthy metabolism and hopefully experience remission of your symptoms. I have confidence that you will be completely honest and objective about your results, which I am very interested in hearing and learning about over time as you put it into practice.
My father said that I'm fakeing my condition (I don't see my condition as illness or disease). He is bipolar and my diagnose is schizoaffective. I have though wondered if I'm faking this????
I have spend a lot of time reading history of mental illnesses and there have been times when people have reacted totally diffrendly this. We have been shamans or witches (Positively meaning), healers and so on. We see world differendly and from differend perspective. And most of as are really, really sensitive. World is hard place, especially human beings like us.
If I could (Lottery win for example) I would support Laurens channel. It's really brave to open like this for a large audience. I don't have courage to do like Lauren. Tried though but the response usually is not very kind or encouraging. Big respect.
Wow. Great insight. I never thought of it that way. Wow again. Thank you!
@@matjazcigut4589 If you’re going to call someone a dumbass, maybe learn to spell it properly! 😂
What a powerful and effective short! Lauren, I really appreciated your nuanced and comprehensive discussion of the issue of malingering and the issues with self-diagnosis. Whilst diagnosis is certainly a privilege for those of us who have access to it, for those who don't, self-identifying and self-diagnosis can be a minefield, and can be very problematic for the reasons you covered. I don't have a schizophrenia spectrum disorder (I have PTSD), but often find your perspectives constructive and nuanced on topics that are commonly addressed in overly simplistic and polarising ways. Thank you for your hard work :)
I hope nobody would fake schizophrenia. And nobody would have to hide that they have schizophrenia. In an ideal world…
Thank you for your videos. I do not believe you are faking it. ❤️
Most people who fake Schizophrenia have committed a horrible crime and are trying to get out of going to prison.
This is according to a forensic psychologist.
That’s not how prison works at all but ok 👌🏾
@@Basstroutfishing So how does prison work according to you?
I don’t understand why anyone would fake any disease or even an autoimmune issue
@@matjazcigut4589 but we know SHE IS NOT faking this. Why would anyone want to? They would have to hav hospitalizations, medications to tan their bodies don’t need. While faking diseases of any kind they actually run the risk of really hurting themselves.
I do know that she IS NOT faking it. I have a great deal of empathy for her.
And a level that even people without mental illness can’t even live up to. You have a better life than so many people who don’t struggle with mental illness don’t get to live. At first I was very critical of this and so didn’t believe you had mental illness, but now I’m learning more about it and realizing that having mental illness is not the worst experience in the world: there are way worse life problems people have to live with. So I am now finding these videos encouraging.
You should be giving TEDx talks about the subject
Sufferers can teach about their condition and trials way better than any psych can.
I think there IS a huge wave of people, particularly young women pretending to have mental illnesses on social media. Especially DID, Tourette syndrome (specifically with funny, cute or explicit tics), autism, ADHD, OCD and some forms of PTSD. Many of these people also seem to present in a similar way. They have unnatural hair colors, tattoos, piercings, dress in alternative fashion and identify as some sort of minority (alternative sexual or gender identities). I think it is okay to acknowledge this fact.
The reason why I think this is happening is that social media has isolated people to such a degree that people (kids, essentially) who are not good at socializing and blending in group settings in real life feel abandoned and want to belong somewhere. What seems funny /cool/ interesting/ relatable/ wins me empathy? Popular mental disorders. And they just do it subconsciously. Usually there is not a malicious intent behind it, but it is sure as hell obnoxious and deserves more attention, especially from parents and loved ones.
Those people surely have real problems. And I do think a lot of them are autistic and are trying to figure out what is wrong with them and also find a community. I have more compassion for them than I used to.
Personally the thought that You are faking is an intrusive thought. I believe you. However, my relationship with this disorder compares me to you at times and says "How can she be so consistent and successful as a youtuber?". I love you sis!
Do you think stigma has changed over the past 10 years. I found your video 6 months after a long stay in hospital. I take my meds but denial is present. I couldn’t fathom your open content due to shame I feel. I believe you 100 percent. Unsure of my experience as really ill or I just had a hard time. And maybe it was a fluke. I am so pleased you have been open and honest because stigma wise , you’re helping. Please take breaks and prioritize yourself over your viewers. Much love. New watcher - A
Just wanted to say thankyou for sharing this. I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder bipolar type throughout the age of 17-18 by 3 different drs (2021-2022) and found your youtube channel shortly after. Despite this I have tried coming off my meds multiple times and have even convinced my psychiatrist that I "must be be faking cause I feel fine now" just to eventually fall back into psychosis or a mood episode. Its mostly just the lack of insight because I still cant really accept that I might have to be on meds for the rest of my life. One of the things I hate the most is people seeing me as sick/mentally ill/disabled/etc so I honestly hide it the best I can even from my drs. This video kind of taught me that if I were faking I would know, and if I were faking why would I put in so much effort to hide it and not receive attention? Idk, it definitely gave me the peace of mind I needed during this time so thank you.
Hey as someone who ultimately got diagnosed with DID, thank you for speaking up about how their are people who misidentify or have other issues and use DID as a cover. we really appreicate it :)
You're doing a wonderful service. There are times when I see you struggling with your symptoms. As someone with Bipolar Disorder, at times I struggle with a thought disorder, it's hard to control my thoughts and speech. It's awful. I notice you struggle with something similar with your illness as well.
This is one of my best videos in mass media. Thank you ever so much for sharing this.
I wish you the very best. 😊
I struggle with thinking that maybe I made up all my symptoms and that I don’t need the medications I take, then I remember the thought processes and symptoms that controlled me for so long and how I didn’t ask for it to start. I am much better on medication, can work full time, but still experience symptoms every day.
Thank you, Lauren! This is a very important topic for people to understand. There is a lot of misunderstanding out there. I appreciate your effort.
I came to your channel recently. I love what you're doing. While our mental illnesses are different (bipolar for me), I find you to be such an inspiration. Thank you for your very high quality, highly thought-out videos.
I think John Lennon said it best “ one thing you can’t hide, is when you’re crippled inside!” Those people making those accusations need to walk a mile in your shoes. Or stop watching and enjoy their miserable lives in solitude. I love listening and watching you explain how you feel. We all need to learn more about mental health issues. Please ignore them and carry on. You’re doing God’s work.
Actually you can hide when you're "crippled" inside. Just not 100% of the time.
Thank you so much for pointing out that a lot of symptoms of mental health disorders are exaggerated issues that everyday people have. I have OCD and everyone these days who is really picky about something or is type A think they have it. A lot of the OCD community get offended by those "if this bothers you then you have OCD" It doesn't bother me, I think because when I was young my therapist explained to me everyone has "OCD like symptoms" but the difference between normal obsessions and compulsions and clinical OCD is how it affects your life. I think the biggest issue people come across is that others don't actively notice or see the persons issues, so they assume they cant be there. When my brother died none of his friends could believe he was autistic. He didnt act like what they assumed someone with autism would. I have OCD, ADHA, autism and narcolepsy and have no problem talking about it. And people are usually surprised when they find out any of those. They might later be like wellnthat explains some things, but it's not something they would "see" if they werent told.
Yep. I think this happens when you have a high functioning level of any disability (or can appear to be so). I have CP and have been questioned about it a number of times in my life, because those folks had only ever met people with severe CP or had stereotypes about it. I was also once accused of faking by a doctor which was really weird. Who would fake not being able to walk their entire life? (I have moderate cerebral palsy and have never walked unaided). So I can definitely relate to those aspects of it. I do also think there is an inspiration porn element so thank you for speaking on that. For the folks who are faking it, I think some of them might have mental health issues themselves like you said.
You can fake any disorder. Fortunately, it takes time to get a diagnosis like DID from a reputable psychiatrist. My therapist told me I meet the criteria but since it is so complex, my psychiatrist has not diagnosed me. Only with BPD with fractured identity and dissociation, complex ptsd. It takes years probably to make sure it isn't another dissociation disorder or even schizoeffective or bi-polar with psychosis. There are so many disorders that have dissociation. Even children of alcoholics will create false selves... so much is just trauma. Great video. Mental health needs to just be accepted and empathy and understanding shown. ♡
I have treatment resistant depression and high anxiety especially noise. It sucks,but your videos make me feel like oh that’s how I feel.
I'm sorry to hear you have to deal with people questioning. I appreciate you content and watch for a different perspective of what another human being deals with on a daily basis.
Thanks Lauren, another thought provoking topic. Media literacy is absolutely key as there is so much damaging trash out there. I really value your vlogs which have definitely helped me on my journey of acceptance/ living with a chronic mental illness. Looking for a cure is such an understandable route to take but also an exhausting one. One day at a time 🌈🙏🍁
Hooooly shiiiiit Lauren, this video spoke to me so much. Since I was a young teen, I've been just dreaming and fantasizing of struggling with something like schizophrenia (I'm very aware that it's not something I should want, so of course I never acted on it). I do struggle with social anxiety, however, and my self-image is very negative. I've always been aware that the reason I dream about this is for attention, the kind of attention where people recognize my struggles, lend me their support and are proud of my everyday feats. I absolutely did have a romanticized image of how people with severe mental illnesses live their lives as you said, but I have also always been aware of the gravity. So after having watched this video, I feel like everything I ever wondered without being able to put it into words has been answered. Initially I thought about talking to my therapist about this, but after your insight I don't think I need to. And it felt so validating that you validated people's need for attention through faking/wanting a severe mental illness even if it's not something to be encouraged. So thanks for this video, and thank you for setting the facts straight for me
Hi Lauren-I get really upset when I read the comments about you faking. People forget the extent to which we have to mask to function when we are experiencing scary symptoms, not to mention how much women are conditioned to “stay calm” and “be nice.” I have a schizoaffective diagnosis as well and have presented very calmly when in crisis, so I’m so sorry you are receiving these ignorant and inaccurate comments. ❤
Edit: while I understand the concerns around DID, it is important to note that psychiatric wards are not able to recognize CPTSD and dissociative disorders experienced by abused people, especially women. That can result in misdiagnoses and victim blaming. I urge anyone who wants to learn more about this to look into the work of Beauty After Bruises, which is doing good work to educate around dissociative symptoms.
Hey, sweet lady!!! Great to see you again!! You look great!!! Hope you are doing good/better. ❤ sending love and hugs. Fellow strugglers are pulling for you!! ❤️ 😍 💖
Ive was diagnosed with schitsophinia two month ago been on my antiphycotic meds since and my awarness of my mental health is skyrocketing thank you for your videos they really help me
This video was one of the most important videos I've seen this year, thank you!
I am so sorry that you are dealing with awful people and a difficult illness. I have neuro lupus and deal with similar issues.
You are obviously highly intelligent. Interesting reflections.
Thank you.
thank you for approaching this topic with such nuance
I appreciate what you do. ❤
This was a very powerful, well spoken video. Thank you for all of the work you put into your channel to educate others. ❤
As a diagnosed DID system; we HATE Tiktok because of the FAKE DID crap on it. DID is not a game. It is cause by childhood trauma. In our own opinion.... don't say you have DID unless you have the papers to back it up. Otherwise all you are doing is making it harder for the rest of us who struggle with the "dark side" of DID every day. SI, psychosis, dissociative states of time loss or waking up shaking in a bathtub and not know how or when you got in it. We have been asked to never call 988 again (in the USA) because people on the phones don't know how to help. Can't go outside in public because of triggers and intense episodes. It's not fun and we wouldn't wish this on anyone. Also as a side note. There is no way our system would do any videos or anything like TikTok. When we have had a switch while on a zoom meeting or something; the headmate who fronted just walked away from the computer. They have their own life to live.
I'm sure most people myself included aren't versed in the nature of schizophrenia - you seem clear-headed, intelligent, articulate which doesn't match popular notions, things people might have seen on tv shows etc. I came across this video searching "faking schizophrenia" because of that guy who attacked the judge in Arizona recently in the same breath as telling her how he's a changed man, yada yada. I wondered if they doctor-shopped for someone who was willing to declare him schizophrenic for compensation.