Easier to blame Wilson for everything that realize that the entire team sucked it up on Sunday. The O-line has been sucking for the entire pre-season and then some@@leroyarellano3916
O-line is fucked, in JetsLand. Of course Zach Wilson is gonna struggle, when the O-line is getting pushed five yards backward immediately off the snap.
I love how no one ever mentions that the Jets O line is horrendous. The injury to Rodgers was the best thing that could have happened to him. All we would be hearing right now is that Rodgers is washed.
True, but he should retire honestly. He will keep getting hurt, it's statistically proven. He's got enough money and was one of the elite QB's in the NFL. Might as well retire before he looks like Brady and has a game unaired. I believe he's got bigger plans for his future anyways.
@@Bluegrassresale He's too old and should retire, I played the game. I understand his passion for it, but it's not going to be the peaches and cream the fans expect from him. Idk, maybe they'll put him on a miracle drug while he's recovering.
@@SnappingTurtle444Sean Payton was never a good coach either. Once drew Brees left he went through 3 QBs in 1 season which none looked good and now the broncos are 0-2
I'm as devastated over what this season will be as anyone... but I really don't think you can put that whole game on Zac. When he had ANY protection to make a throw quickly, he was actually looking improved. Those interceptions came in basically garbage time when the Jets were down 3 scores and he was trying to force a miracle. The offensive line is just MISERABLE.
@@charlesfaure1189the pressure rate for that game was 70%. There’s maybe only 3 qbs in the league who could mount a comeback with that kind of pressure and no run game.
Let's be honest thought Rich: Aaron Rodgers was never gonna make it through a full season with this offensive line anyway. If anything, maybe four snaps gave us the quick band aid rip we needed rather than seeing him go down after we started winning a bunch of games.
To fans like Rich, the offensive line only mattered because it didn't protect Rodgers. Now that Zach's in, if you can't win the game with your arm with an even tougher pass rush, you're not ready.
@@RD-zx6py No. To judge Wilson based off the game against the Cowboys are things only dumb ignorant casual fans would do. There is literally NO QB that would have been able to do anything with 70+% pressure out of all passing plays called.
@@RD-zx6py Do you know "clearly" is a tell? It's used when the speaker wants you to believe them but doesn't really have an argument. I'm not kidding -- once you notice it you see it used for things that are anything but clear.
I usually side with rich but he's wrong on this one. Zach was pressured on 58% of his dropbacks, receivers were dropping good passes, and those INTs came late when Zach was trying to make something happen. I would be the first to say this was Zach's fault but it wasn't. We just got beat by arguably the best team in the NFL
Agreed that online has been trash for a good few years. Yeah Zach is a turnover machine but he's always running for his life. Like wtf did jets fans get all excited for? Yeah Rodgers is great but the online didn't protect him
Both sides of the lines got dominated. Doesn’t matter if Rodgers is the QB or not, you won’t win like that. Probably the reason Rodgers called out the line a month ago or so
You are right to a degree. Think the Cowboys (barring major injuries) can go all the way. And Rodgers prob would have had major trouble with them as well due to the OT line issues…
I don't get why people are all over Zach for getting exposed by one of the best teams in the league. Wilson played decent the 1st half, and the Dallas Defense continued to bully the whole jets offense in the 2nd half.
You can’t blame Zach for yesterdays game. The interceptions were hero ball with the jets trying to narrow a game that escaped them Penalties, defense not holding a 3rd down, no run game to the right side, or not running similiar pass plays over the middle like the garret Wilson would have made this a game. But to all Jet fans cowboys are a superbowl caliber team but for next week it’s time we finally have our perfect game against the patriots who have had our number for a decade
I don't know what it is or why a curse seems to fall upon every single person we hire to run our offense, but it seems like every single offensive coordinator just reverts to the same tired old cliche plays on this team year after year, it doesn't matter who it is, or how successful they've been before. We could hire Andy Reid to come run our offense and he would somehow revert into "okay boys, let's run it to the left again even though that play has worked literally zero times. Quick screen pass on a slant?? Never heard of it. Easy and predictable, that's the way to go!"
Not once did I hear anyone talk about how terrible that offensive line was. A lot of times Zach had no time to do anything at all. It wasn't until the 4th quarter down by 20 points he started trying to force things & threw those pics.
Cowboys fan here: The Jets should not have abandoned the run. Especially when there are not 1, but 2 studs in the backfield. It would have taken the pressure off the QB and not let him run for his life forcing throws and making mistakes. This isn't on Zak Wilson, it's on the play calling.
Also a Cowboys fan, but the Jets run game wouldn't have done anything against the Cowboys' D-line. To even pretend otherwise shows that someone didn't fully pay attention to that Giants game in week 1.
I was terrified of Breece Hall. Didn't realize he had only 4 touches. Reminds me of the time KM used Pollard just 6 times vs SF in the playoffs (2021). Hackett looked like he was calling plays for AR. Jus sayin. Wilson wasn't bad.
Genuine question for any Jets fan; with the Bills and Dallas in the first 2 games, would you have taken a 1-1 start even with AR8 at QB? I agree that the Jets have problems and a backup QB is a priority, but the Pats game looks like an real opportunity to right the ship.
Yes! With those 1st 6 games it was also split between the bills/cowboys. Beat the pats and broncos. And try to be 3-3 before the bye where it gets "easier"
As a Jet fan the answer is yes. I had them splitting these 2 games before the season. W in Buffalo because the Jets have Allen's number and then losing in Dallas.
Hackett left Denver for a reason. Zach should have had 6 key plays he and the line were fine with. A TE should have been assigned the entire game to double team Parsons. The Jets should not have mentioned Hall was on a set carry count this week. AND---HACKETT MUST LEARN TO ADJUST AT HALFTIME!!!
Bringing in Hackett was their mistake. With both Hackett and Rogers being on the same page both thought it'd be easy to get everyone else on board. In the meantime, the shortcut of doing that didn't give anyone pause to think of what may happen if an aging QB gets hurt. Oh yeah, let's not forget not having a plan to protect your aging QB. You bet your butt the lack of situation awareness on the Jets is baked in.
I honestly think your first problem to solve is the offensive line. That O' line already got Rogers hurt. Only a matter of time before they get Zack hurt.
Zach played relatively well in the first half. Those INTs are garbage time. Maybe it's something to do with the OL being bottom tier trash for over a decade now. Beat the Pats, go 2-0 in the division. That's literally all that matters right now. Beat the Pats at home.
I don't like the Cowboys but I don't think any quarterback would have won behind this offensive line. Parsons might be the best defensive player since Larence Taylor. I have to admit Dallas is the best NFL team in football. That defense is awesome.
Zach was not good but did these guys watch the game? Defense was not good, running game was terrible, offensive line was a turnstile. They got dominated in every phase. But let’s only blame Zach.
Unfortunately that’s football. Your QB could be facing the hardest team in the NFL (we still don’t know) but if you don’t have the best help and don’t okay amazingly, the fans and media with chew you up and spit you out. Poor Rich
The O-line looked like they were on roller-skates and they got no push up front at all. Zach led the team in carries. You're basically telegraphing it to the opposition to just rush the passer. Btw, Zach played very well up until he was asked to carry the team on his back and do something that no other Jets QB had ever done. NYJ have never won a road game when down by 14 past half-time. Now they are expecting Zach to do this? With the resources spent on the offensive line, it still looks like a mess. Brown is a shell of himself, and Tomlinson looks like he forgot to play LG after leaving the 49'ers. Connor McGovern had arguably his worst game as a Jet and AVT was getting manhandled and Becton had multiple penalties. Zach has his issues, but he looks improved, but you can't expect him to carry the team when the line is collapsing on him in 2 seconds.
Rich, you can’t pin this on Zach being “unready”. Rodgers would have gotten absolutely crunched yesterday, we don’t win that game regardless who’s behind center when we can’t block
Before the season started weveryone said if we could be 3 - 3 after the first six games, things would get easier. we are 1 - 1 last time I checked. If you want to look at the stat line and blame it all on Zac, that's your prerogative. I saw a quarterback who looks a whole lot different in the pocket than he did last year. For him to be the leading rusher means he was running in the right direction. Jordan Love is getting much love because he sat behind Aaron Rodgers. Well Zac has picked something up in the last 5 months. Lets shore up this line, beat New England and Denver and we will be 3 - 3 after the first six.
Dead wrong this time Rich. This game was NOT on Zach. Why are you blaming him when the O-line statistics show 3 of line were LAST in the NFL, and the other 2 were in the bottom 10 and bottom 20 out of 54???Give the kid a break.
I agree with many comments here that this is really a o-line and coaching issue. I think Wilson looked as good as he could with a failure of an o-line.
Zac Wilson is a bust. Period. In his 3rd year, still not seeing the field, and is a 1 read QB. If he was halfway decent, the Jets wouldn’t have invested draft capital and money in a 40 year old Shroom head , who inhabits dark rooms and munches on those Shrooms to make decisions , and admitted that he was 90% retired and had to have the Jets twist his arm to play for them
Opening up & blaming Zach and saying he looked lost all game & they were dedicated to the pass not the run makes me think he didn’t even watch the game - they would have a good run, then a run for loss - they would have a good pass followed by getting stuffed on 3rd and short - Breece dropped at least 2 screen passes - ZW had one bad throw the entire first half - operated a magnificent 2 minute drill (not looking lost) would have connected with GW for a TD but arm got hit - that same first half the defense got marched on - couldn’t get out of 3rd and long - dropped a pick 6 and got worked by the ref’s - second have continued with drops and bad runs and the defense finally got gassed - ZW didn’t throw the first pick until they were down 18 in the 4th and running for his life - so to open the segment dunking on Zach & saying he was lost, the defense was bad but it’s on the QB, what freaking game did you watch? This was also on the road against a top 3 defense on a short week with the left side of line leakier than a screen door on a submarine - this was a team loss - ZW was actually a bright spot in the first half - the play calling - the run blocking - missed opportunities - bland defensive performance are more to blame - yeah he lost it at the end and it’s concerning - RB ran the wrong route on second INT & 3rd int was a 50-50 deep ball to GW - fine kid can improve - but this was a team and coaching loss through and through
Yeah, agreed. And a cowboys stan. Zack Wilson was the best thing about that game. That o-line was trash, and needs to be replaced. No defense can survive playing for 45 minutes.
Are you his agent or Dad! Seriously he has 2 TDS to Garret Wilson and that's it. The longer the games he gets worse. He seeing what? Nothing happening? Stacked fronts and Dal Cook stand up fumbling does not explain why this guy can't stick a spread route in 1 on 1 coverage. Wilson gives no reason to drop 6 in coverage. Lazaro is there somewhere underneath. He is not even BYU caliber right now. All those guys out west grow up in spread formations. He does look like me retaking Algebra 1 to go from a low D to a generous C- to play sports in HS.
I am actually wondering if Rich actually watched the game. I have bashed Zach Wilson a ton since last year but he was actually pretty good for 3 quarters considering he had 1 second to throw on 40-50% of the the drop backs. Rich freaking out over one game is kind of nuts
What about the many, many, many other poor performances from Zach... He is one of the worst processors ever, and intelligence doesn't just manifest from the ether. Some people are just stupid, yet people can't accept it
Super cold take from Rich. Top defense in the nfl against the Jets' midget football league O-line. Everyone in the comments pointed this out, but it's fun for Rich to pile on Zach, I guess. He looked good on the three dropbacks in which he wasn't pressured. Parsons is unbelievable. Also, Zach said, "I think I'm seeing the field better," because he can't directly say the O-line sucks; e.g., when Zach knew Garrett was going to the corner of the endzone before he cut left, but Zach's hand was hit on the throw. No time to act on what he sees. He's trying to be a good leader. End of rant. Can't wait for the next negative video clip.
The impression I have is that the Jets had an offensive game plan coming into this game, but it wasn't a game plan specifically for this Dallas defense. Any team that really wants to compete with Dallas right now is going to have to scheme up a way to slow Parsons and the Cowboys stunts down. Otherwise running your offense will be difficult to almost impossible.
Come on Rich...you're way better than this. Zach was NOT the issue in this game. He was hitting the simple throws that he'd been missing the last few years. He was stepping up in the pocket. He wasn't running backwards 20 yards. He only looked bad in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter when he had to try and play hero ball. This whole season had been planned around Aaron Rodgers and all of a sudden Zach is thrown in there again. The left side of the O-Line needs work. We need our best playmakers on the field. Sauce needs to catch those easy picks. We missed out on multiple scoring opportunities that would have changed the momentum of the game. Coaching needs to step up big time. I know it's easy to blame the kid after his past play but Zach was not the issue.
It’s a punch in the gut to the Jets team when they know Zach Wilson is under center they know they have no shot they should get Wentz just 2 years ago he threw 26TD to only 6 INT with the Colts
Rich I took screenshots of each passing play at 2 seconds. Do that and you sill see a superb performance. You will see something like 17/27 260 yards 3 touchdowns and 1 interception. The last couple of interceptions would never have happened. Throw in the drops and it would be 19/27 and 290 yards or more and 3 touchdowns or more. What is the completion pct of passes where the QB had 2 seconds to pass? And even with that performance they might have lost.
the rant against Wilson is quite unfair given how good the Cowboy's defense is. Most teams are not going to be able to dropback against the Cowboys. The failure is Hackett's here for calling so few running plays. Even against Belichick is not going to be a good indicator. The Dolphins didnt light it up yesterday against the patriots. Wilson is starting to be a victim of perception where he gets no break/pass from no one.
I tried to warn you Jets fans it's even worse than you thought, you fell into the same trap Denver did last year. Your OC Hackett has a very complex scheme and the two QBs that have been in it struggled mightily in their first season in his scheme. Rodgers is one, he had one of his worst seasons in Hackett's first season as GB offensive coordinator (the pay off was Rodgers back to back MVPs once he mastered the scheme). Russel Wilson was the other last season. There's just no way Zach Wilson is going to be able to adjust this season.
Rich's obsession with the JETS is reaching Skip Bayless/Dallas levels. Pretty soon every episode is going to have an hour or so devoted solely to talking about them.
man, it was a 30-10 loss against the cowboys for their home opener while ZW getting 1 week with the starters with a terrible OL. I agree, Saleh needs to get his team under control and get breece more touches, sauce covering WR1, and OL shifts.. but dang we got screwed week 1, not the end of the world...
Zach Wilson needs to be able to throw and be a part of the offense. It's not far to hand cuff him and then give him all the blame. Wilson needs to audible, call his own plays as necessary and give everyone the middle finger and let it fly. He has a great arm but is so muted and put in a straight jacket he wasn't allowed to participate. Defenses THRIVE OFF of that situation.
Brady and mahomes would’ve struggled behind this trash line yesterday. This isn’t Wilson’s fault at all. He really does look like he’s seeing the field better than before. This is your fandom talking more than sober analysis. Give the kid a week or two to adjust to the offense that was designed for rodgers and not him. And blame this OC where he deserves blame for the terrible play calling and blame the organization as a whole for not addressing their offensive line issues.
Slow down Rich, remember the game plan was 1) Jets D is elite! - we'll get you the ball back and provide the opportunities for you on a shorter field, force some TOs, etc. Where was that D? Dallas had it 42 minutes converted 3rd down after 3rd down, dropped an INT, 2) We'll use our running attack so Zach doesn't have to do it all...uh...duh...Dallas is gonna stack the box to make Zach throw and they got stuffed, turns out our OL isn't that great at run blocking either - btw...I do think the Jets get that TD before half to GW if Zach doesn't get that ball tipped and it's a little different game going into half. 3) Minus points 1 & 2 ----yeah it did come down to Zach and by that point Dallas D is teeing off. I get the pain, and you expect it to click right now or never for the kid, but that's NOT the recipe for winning right now, and you can't blame it all on him. Please let me know what other back-up QBs are thriving right now.
I really enjoy these clips. That being said, why is there a hum whenever Rich speaks? Noise gate covering up some bad hum coming from something in the audio chain.
I feel your pain, Rich. I watched 40 years of my Saints battling year in and year out, always believing next year.... what a joy when Sean and Drew came to town. I follow your Jets waiting for just such a year, hang in there, it's right around the corner!🤎⚜️🖤😶🌫️🏈🏈🏈
It’s one game. Obviously, we have to recalculate and show some initiative. I am glad this Super Bowl talk has ended for now. The reality is that perhaps, even with Rogers, we were not ready for that talk. My hope is that we make the playoffs to show the team is making progress.
Got to come up with a better scheme for Zach. At this point, he needs a ton of RPOs to use his legs. Designed QB runs will open up play action. The playmakers are in place.
The kid did not play well, that's for sure. But Rich, you are correct - the coaching sucked. It's like they're trying to set him up to fail. No run game. No screen game. Consequently no play-action. Look at what the Eagles did when the Vikings were shutting down their offense AFTER ONLY THREE SERIES! The coaches need to be able to make obvious adjustments to help their players be in better positions.
I think you got to think of it as the Jets can move on from Wilson knowing that he isn't good, and they can let him go after 3 seasons instead of thinking he might be ready in year 4. Condolences on Roger's that was a rough injury.
Look Zach is by no means an elite quarterback & he for sure made his mistakes that game but why does NY media always ignore how bad the offensive line is for the past two games. A New York carpenter could probably stop defenses more than the O-Line. You can’t entirely fault a quarterback when he has zero time to throw & they were getting Rodgers constantly pressured too in his 4 snaps.
Re 4 touches for B. Hall - my wife drafted Hall and she was trying to figure out what to do for week 2, and I told her, "well Rodgers is out and Wilson sucks, they'll have no choice but to rely on Hall and the running game." Boy was I wrong...
This is the very definition of insanity. You know what you currently have in Zach Wilson. You should have had a veteran QB behind Rodgers in case he gets hurt. Zach should have been 3rd string just sitting for a year. This is how NOT to develop a young QB.
I’ll follow my initial comment with- look at the pressure Zach was having to deal with and tell me you think 40 year old Rogers was going to be able to get out of that more effectively? Maybe he would’ve had the throw always instead of INTs but it wouldn’t have mattered.
As a cowboy fan I’ll say Wilson didn’t do anything wrong; the jets were overmatched up front, played from behind the entire game, OC abandoned the run completely. It’s not like the 3 picks is why Dallas got a big lead, the 3 picks happened when they were down big and running out of time so he had to take chances. I’d rather a qb go down swinging like that then playing cautious.
Honestly, looking at the schedule, they just had a gauntlet early, but the last 2/3 of the season doesn’t look so bad. I could see a 10-7 or 11-6 season, assuming they fire Hackett sooner rather than later.
Amen... Token Jets fan here cause I'm a Rodgers guy and Breece/Garrett on my fantasy team but cmon man I assumed that game plan would be run run run right at parsons and wear them down. Maybe not get a win but couldve had a better chance or squeaked one out at end of game.
I agree that Zach certainly has some room for growth - but come on, it's not like this supposedly "super bowl ready" defense played very well to start or end the game,
Did we watch the same game? We threw because we couldn’t possess the ball all game. We couldn’t possess the ball all game because we couldn’t run and couldn’t block. Zach had no time to throw and when he did receivers were dropping balls left and right. All those passing plays were drawn up trying to either end the half or come back from down 20 in garbage time. This was total domination by the Cowboys.
Rich is right. RUN THE BALL. Even if the Jets would average 2 yards a carry, it sets up the play action. Plus: running the ball burns the clock by at least 2 minutes and 15 seconds. So 7 possessions is an ENTIRE QUARTER that the Cowboys don't have the ball. It gives the opponents less time to score and it wears down their defense physically.
I think this team needs a Norv Turner/ Joe Gibbs type OC. Norv was very good at protecting his QB with running game max protection. Zach has talent but, he didn't get enough of experience at the College level and the Jets (Very Talented Team) are paying the price.
Hackett really came off as cringe in Hard Knocks. Combined with the body of work in Denver, and it feels like NYJ is going to have a locker room buy-in issue sooner than later
Rich It's Wilson man. Both 9ers and Jets took a qb back to back in that draft but the 9ers were smart enough to realize he wasn't the guy and moved on to avoid ruining a good team. The Jets are stubborn and determined to eventually make it work because of were they took him.
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It feels like the offensive line is the real Achilles heel of this team
lol the puns
Stop it. That hurt. Really, really hurt.
Hey I see what ya did there. Funny
Jeeeze 😂… you aren’t wrong…. This is why Aaron wanted D Bak so bad
Boom 💥 😂
Why do jets overlook the tackle weakness. They got 1 QB hurt and will likely get Wilson hurt as well.
Totally agree with you, nobody is saying how much that left side of the O. line sucks
Easier to blame Wilson for everything that realize that the entire team sucked it up on Sunday. The O-line has been sucking for the entire pre-season and then some@@leroyarellano3916
Yeah our line is trash, they would have lost probs with Rodgers back there
Does it need to be said? It was talked about nonstop in Hard Knocks and Rodgers is out for the season. It’s common knowledge that O line is trash.
Yes if only they had someone in the franchise that could have told them that an OL is useful 🤔 they should consider hiring that kind of staff 😊
O-line is fucked, in JetsLand. Of course Zach Wilson is gonna struggle, when the O-line is getting pushed five yards backward immediately off the snap.
Yup, he only has 2 seconds to throw de ball every snap...
@@leroyarellano3916 But an eLeEt QB would will the O-line to block better!!!!111
Micah Parsons is a beast and they played him like he was invisible! Go figure!!!! Jets are way better than this..... This loss is on the coaches!
Especially the left tackle that stupidly did a very low block to allow a defender thru to injure Aaron...
Joseph Douglas built a talented roster with one glaring flaw: it can’t protect the most important player.
Duane Brown is done. Move Mekhi back to LT and let any of the other RT options play there. They're all better at RT than Brown is at LT.
I love how no one ever mentions that the Jets O line is horrendous. The injury to Rodgers was the best thing that could have happened to him. All we would be hearing right now is that Rodgers is washed.
Robert Saleh will be exposed 😂 ... Then went hired Nathaniel Hackett 🤦🏾♂️- very weak coaching staff. 🤭 Sean Payton was right... Jets, let's ride.✈️🏈
True, but he should retire honestly. He will keep getting hurt, it's statistically proven. He's got enough money and was one of the elite QB's in the NFL. Might as well retire before he looks like Brady and has a game unaired. I believe he's got bigger plans for his future anyways.
@@dannysmith716 its not about the money for Arod. he loves to the game. Plus he is still top tier QB.. PSA...
@@Bluegrassresale He's too old and should retire, I played the game. I understand his passion for it, but it's not going to be the peaches and cream the fans expect from him. Idk, maybe they'll put him on a miracle drug while he's recovering.
@@SnappingTurtle444Sean Payton was never a good coach either. Once drew Brees left he went through 3 QBs in 1 season which none looked good and now the broncos are 0-2
I'm as devastated over what this season will be as anyone... but I really don't think you can put that whole game on Zac. When he had ANY protection to make a throw quickly, he was actually looking improved. Those interceptions came in basically garbage time when the Jets were down 3 scores and he was trying to force a miracle. The offensive line is just MISERABLE.
That's why the Jets need to run the ball. Ask Zach to throw 25 times or less.
@@russd8865and how do you run the ball against an elite defense if your OL is subpar?
He 'looked improved' until the passing situations became obvious--you know, the situations an NFL QB gets paid for.
@@charlesfaure1189the pressure rate for that game was 70%. There’s maybe only 3 qbs in the league who could mount a comeback with that kind of pressure and no run game.
you keep running and running and when you finish running, you run it again. DL will be worn out by the fourth quarter.
“Paying condolences to me as if it was a family member” 😂
That sums up what it was like for the Jets fans
Let's be honest thought Rich: Aaron Rodgers was never gonna make it through a full season with this offensive line anyway. If anything, maybe four snaps gave us the quick band aid rip we needed rather than seeing him go down after we started winning a bunch of games.
That’s what I was thinking
So you’re saying the OL was capable of winning a bunch of games?
To fans like Rich, the offensive line only mattered because it didn't protect Rodgers. Now that Zach's in, if you can't win the game with your arm with an even tougher pass rush, you're not ready.
Lol dude zach wilson sucks nd the o line. Kirk cousins oline is worst and dude plays infinitely better. Both can be true. Wilson is garbage
Two things can be true. The O-line is weak but Wilson is also clearly not cut out to play in the NFL.
@@RD-zx6py No. To judge Wilson based off the game against the Cowboys are things only dumb ignorant casual fans would do. There is literally NO QB that would have been able to do anything with 70+% pressure out of all passing plays called.
@@RD-zx6py Do you know "clearly" is a tell? It's used when the speaker wants you to believe them but doesn't really have an argument. I'm not kidding -- once you notice it you see it used for things that are anything but clear.
@@Lunzatis_Palemoon If Rodgers couldn't deal with Buffalo's pass rush, it's kind of silly to assume he'd have been able to deal with Dallas.
Being a QB in the draft and getting the call from the Jets seems like a very bad omen for the player!!
That would be Indy and Cleveland lol
If I'm Joe Douglas I'm not even thinking about QB in the first round. I need a Left Tackle to protect my QB.
@@jakebuchsbaum3348 🙏
I usually side with rich but he's wrong on this one. Zach was pressured on 58% of his dropbacks, receivers were dropping good passes, and those INTs came late when Zach was trying to make something happen. I would be the first to say this was Zach's fault but it wasn't. We just got beat by arguably the best team in the NFL
Agreed that online has been trash for a good few years. Yeah Zach is a turnover machine but he's always running for his life. Like wtf did jets fans get all excited for? Yeah Rodgers is great but the online didn't protect him
Both sides of the lines got dominated. Doesn’t matter if Rodgers is the QB or not, you won’t win like that. Probably the reason Rodgers called out the line a month ago or so
You are right to a degree. Think the Cowboys (barring major injuries) can go all the way. And Rodgers prob would have had major trouble with them as well due to the OT line issues…
dude have u watched wilson the last 3 years...plz...
I’m a cowboys fan… and if Dak had a fraction of that pressure he’d play like Officer Doofy from the scary movie Franchise
I don't get why people are all over Zach for getting exposed by one of the best teams in the league. Wilson played decent the 1st half, and the Dallas Defense continued to bully the whole jets offense in the 2nd half.
Perhaps it is because Zach is naive when it comes to understanding the consequence of playing against a great defense.
Because everyone has seen this movie. Zach sucked last year and now he sucks this year.
Starting to feel sorry for Zach. He has really been humbled and actually sounds like he's learning...
I dunno, feeling sorry for a dude who looks like a male model from a multimillionaire family isn’t high on my list of priorities.
@@mylesraymond7364sounds more like jealously then looking objectively
@@mylesraymond7364That’s an odd way to look at it, and he doesn’t look like a model he just looks like an 8 year old
@@mylesraymond7364but why male models?
Zach is a professional. If he can’t get the job done, then he has to go. It’s the same thing we saw last year.
You can’t blame Zach for yesterdays game. The interceptions were hero ball with the jets trying to narrow a game that escaped them
Penalties, defense not holding a 3rd down, no run game to the right side, or not running similiar pass plays over the middle like the garret Wilson would have made this a game.
But to all Jet fans cowboys are a superbowl caliber team but for next week it’s time we finally have our perfect game against the patriots who have had our number for a decade
For 2 decades you mean
I don't know what it is or why a curse seems to fall upon every single person we hire to run our offense, but it seems like every single offensive coordinator just reverts to the same tired old cliche plays on this team year after year, it doesn't matter who it is, or how successful they've been before. We could hire Andy Reid to come run our offense and he would somehow revert into "okay boys, let's run it to the left again even though that play has worked literally zero times. Quick screen pass on a slant?? Never heard of it. Easy and predictable, that's the way to go!"
Completely agree
This loss falls right on the coaches shoulders! Game plan sucked...
Not once did I hear anyone talk about how terrible that offensive line was. A lot of times Zach had no time to do anything at all. It wasn't until the 4th quarter down by 20 points he started trying to force things & threw those pics.
It's because the offensive line wasn't interviewed like Zach was who displayed his naivety of the game the entire interview.
@@ejtonefan Watch more film.
Cowboys fan here: The Jets should not have abandoned the run. Especially when there are not 1, but 2 studs in the backfield. It would have taken the pressure off the QB and not let him run for his life forcing throws and making mistakes. This isn't on Zak Wilson, it's on the play calling.
Also a Cowboys fan, but the Jets run game wouldn't have done anything against the Cowboys' D-line. To even pretend otherwise shows that someone didn't fully pay attention to that Giants game in week 1.
Exactly...the play calling is never called into question
Staying with the run works when the defense is aware that the QB can beat you. Think about that.
Well, I think the >ahem< Cowboys might've had something to do with it, as well, 'Cowboys fan.' They're pretty good.
I was terrified of Breece Hall. Didn't realize he had only 4 touches. Reminds me of the time KM used Pollard just 6 times vs SF in the playoffs (2021). Hackett looked like he was calling plays for AR. Jus sayin. Wilson wasn't bad.
Genuine question for any Jets fan; with the Bills and Dallas in the first 2 games, would you have taken a 1-1 start even with AR8 at QB?
I agree that the Jets have problems and a backup QB is a priority, but the Pats game looks like an real opportunity to right the ship.
Positive way to look at it 👍
Yes! With those 1st 6 games it was also split between the bills/cowboys. Beat the pats and broncos. And try to be 3-3 before the bye where it gets "easier"
As a Jet fan the answer is yes. I had them splitting these 2 games before the season. W in Buffalo because the Jets have Allen's number and then losing in Dallas.
Being mediocre sucks. A team should either be good or terrible. Drafting in the middle of each round sucks. All it does is keep the team...mediocre.
Hackett left Denver for a reason. Zach should have had 6 key plays he and the line were fine with. A TE should have been assigned the entire game to double team Parsons. The Jets should not have mentioned Hall was on a set carry count this week. AND---HACKETT MUST LEARN TO ADJUST AT HALFTIME!!!
Hackett got fired for a reason. He didn’t leave. He got canned cause he sucks
@@brite1217💯
Bringing in Hackett was their mistake. With both Hackett and Rogers being on the same page both thought it'd be easy to get everyone else on board. In the meantime, the shortcut of doing that didn't give anyone pause to think of what may happen if an aging QB gets hurt. Oh yeah, let's not forget not having a plan to protect your aging QB. You bet your butt the lack of situation awareness on the Jets is baked in.
I honestly think your first problem to solve is the offensive line. That O' line already got Rogers hurt. Only a matter of time before they get Zack hurt.
Props to Rich for being honest on his platform.
Nathaniel Hackett was not the primary playcaller in Green Bay for a reason and got fired in Denver for a reason.
Zach played relatively well in the first half. Those INTs are garbage time. Maybe it's something to do with the OL being bottom tier trash for over a decade now. Beat the Pats, go 2-0 in the division. That's literally all that matters right now. Beat the Pats at home.
Broncos fan here. Hacket not calling any run plays was the problem.
I don't like the Cowboys but I don't think any quarterback would have won behind this offensive line. Parsons might be the best defensive player since Larence Taylor. I have to admit Dallas is the best NFL team in football. That defense is awesome.
Zach was not good but did these guys watch the game? Defense was not good, running game was terrible, offensive line was a turnstile. They got dominated in every phase. But let’s only blame Zach.
No qb could have done well with that O line.
@@jetfocus1152 Agreed
Unfortunately that’s football. Your QB could be facing the hardest team in the NFL (we still don’t know) but if you don’t have the best help and don’t okay amazingly, the fans and media with chew you up and spit you out. Poor Rich
Hmmm it’s almost like us broncos fans were warning you about the Nathaniel Hackett experience
The O-line looked like they were on roller-skates and they got no push up front at all. Zach led the team in carries. You're basically telegraphing it to the opposition to just rush the passer. Btw, Zach played very well up until he was asked to carry the team on his back and do something that no other Jets QB had ever done. NYJ have never won a road game when down by 14 past half-time. Now they are expecting Zach to do this? With the resources spent on the offensive line, it still looks like a mess. Brown is a shell of himself, and Tomlinson looks like he forgot to play LG after leaving the 49'ers. Connor McGovern had arguably his worst game as a Jet and AVT was getting manhandled and Becton had multiple penalties. Zach has his issues, but he looks improved, but you can't expect him to carry the team when the line is collapsing on him in 2 seconds.
Rich, you can’t pin this on Zach being “unready”. Rodgers would have gotten absolutely crunched yesterday, we don’t win that game regardless who’s behind center when we can’t block
As a Raiders fan ,Aaron Rodgers fan and Routing for the Jets this year. I feel Jets fans pain
2 things can be true at the same time. We have a horrible O-line AND Zach is still not ready. They play off each other as well.
Forget QB situation they have O line situation
Before the season started weveryone said if we could be 3 - 3 after the first six games, things would get easier. we are 1 - 1 last time I checked. If you want to look at the stat line and blame it all on Zac, that's your prerogative. I saw a quarterback who looks a whole lot different in the pocket than he did last year. For him to be the leading rusher means he was running in the right direction. Jordan Love is getting much love because he sat behind Aaron Rodgers. Well Zac has picked something up in the last 5 months. Lets shore up this line, beat New England and Denver and we will be 3 - 3 after the first six.
Dead wrong this time Rich. This game was NOT on Zach. Why are you blaming him when the O-line statistics show 3 of line were LAST in the NFL, and the other 2 were in the bottom 10 and bottom 20 out of 54???Give the kid a break.
I agree with many comments here that this is really a o-line and coaching issue. I think Wilson looked as good as he could with a failure of an o-line.
When the season is over we will look back and say," Zach wasn't so bad after all. Since no one else did much better."
When the seasons over, I’ll look back and say “ man, really wish I accepted that taco that one time someone offered it to me.” That’s what I’ll say
@@BoofDoofushow do you turn down a taco. crucial in season mistake gotta capitalize on those lmao
@@PureSharp I know, every time I look in the mirror I’m ashamed of the man staring back at me. I really messed up big time
If that were a possibility, they'd have said that last year.
Zac Wilson is a bust. Period. In his 3rd year, still not seeing the field, and is a 1 read QB. If he was halfway decent, the Jets wouldn’t have invested draft capital and money in a 40 year old Shroom head , who inhabits dark rooms and munches on those Shrooms to make decisions , and admitted that he was 90% retired and had to have the Jets twist his arm to play for them
Opening up & blaming Zach and saying he looked lost all game & they were dedicated to the pass not the run makes me think he didn’t even watch the game - they would have a good run, then a run for loss - they would have a good pass followed by getting stuffed on 3rd and short - Breece dropped at least 2 screen passes - ZW had one bad throw the entire first half - operated a magnificent 2 minute drill (not looking lost) would have connected with GW for a TD but arm got hit - that same first half the defense got marched on - couldn’t get out of 3rd and long - dropped a pick 6 and got worked by the ref’s - second have continued with drops and bad runs and the defense finally got gassed - ZW didn’t throw the first pick until they were down 18 in the 4th and running for his life - so to open the segment dunking on Zach & saying he was lost, the defense was bad but it’s on the QB, what freaking game did you watch? This was also on the road against a top 3 defense on a short week with the left side of line leakier than a screen door on a submarine - this was a team loss - ZW was actually a bright spot in the first half - the play calling - the run blocking - missed opportunities - bland defensive performance are more to blame - yeah he lost it at the end and it’s concerning - RB ran the wrong route on second INT & 3rd int was a 50-50 deep ball to GW - fine kid can improve - but this was a team and coaching loss through and through
Yeah, agreed. And a cowboys stan. Zack Wilson was the best thing about that game. That o-line was trash, and needs to be replaced. No defense can survive playing for 45 minutes.
Are you his agent or Dad! Seriously he has 2 TDS to Garret Wilson and that's it. The longer the games he gets worse. He seeing what? Nothing happening? Stacked fronts and Dal Cook stand up fumbling does not explain why this guy can't stick a spread route in 1 on 1 coverage. Wilson gives no reason to drop 6 in coverage. Lazaro is there somewhere underneath. He is not even BYU caliber right now. All those guys out west grow up in spread formations. He does look like me retaking Algebra 1 to go from a low D to a generous C- to play sports in HS.
I am actually wondering if Rich actually watched the game. I have bashed Zach Wilson a ton since last year but he was actually pretty good for 3 quarters considering he had 1 second to throw on 40-50% of the the drop backs.
Rich freaking out over one game is kind of nuts
No matter what happens I need GW to get 1800 yards. Like Rich said I love Garett Wilson.
No QB couldve played well being pressured like that
Knowing this, I think the Jets coach would have put in a QB they could sacrifice ... or maybe he did.
What about the many, many, many other poor performances from Zach... He is one of the worst processors ever, and intelligence doesn't just manifest from the ether. Some people are just stupid, yet people can't accept it
Zach would have!
Super cold take from Rich. Top defense in the nfl against the Jets' midget football league O-line. Everyone in the comments pointed this out, but it's fun for Rich to pile on Zach, I guess. He looked good on the three dropbacks in which he wasn't pressured. Parsons is unbelievable.
Also, Zach said, "I think I'm seeing the field better," because he can't directly say the O-line sucks; e.g., when Zach knew Garrett was going to the corner of the endzone before he cut left, but Zach's hand was hit on the throw. No time to act on what he sees. He's trying to be a good leader.
End of rant. Can't wait for the next negative video clip.
Zach had one sack through 3 quarters.
Zack Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are a symptom of the actual problem. The offensive line couldn't block a beer fart.
The impression I have is that the Jets had an offensive game plan coming into this game, but it wasn't a game plan specifically for this Dallas defense. Any team that really wants to compete with Dallas right now is going to have to scheme up a way to slow Parsons and the Cowboys stunts down. Otherwise running your offense will be difficult to almost impossible.
Give Zack a chance. Run the ball. What the heck? I thought they would use the incredible RBs to protect Zack. But Breece gets 4 touches.
Dropped two passes.
Great words from Garrett Wilson on behalf of Zach Wilson...
4 carries though, that OC has got to be dressed down. unbelievable
Come on Rich...you're way better than this. Zach was NOT the issue in this game. He was hitting the simple throws that he'd been missing the last few years. He was stepping up in the pocket. He wasn't running backwards 20 yards. He only looked bad in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter when he had to try and play hero ball.
This whole season had been planned around Aaron Rodgers and all of a sudden Zach is thrown in there again. The left side of the O-Line needs work. We need our best playmakers on the field. Sauce needs to catch those easy picks. We missed out on multiple scoring opportunities that would have changed the momentum of the game. Coaching needs to step up big time. I know it's easy to blame the kid after his past play but Zach was not the issue.
It’s a punch in the gut to the Jets team when they know Zach Wilson is under center they know they have no shot they should get Wentz just 2 years ago he threw 26TD to only 6 INT with the Colts
I’ll never understand why he’s labeled as just the worst qb, I’ll take any of his qb numbers from any season from him
These Jets guys wear their hearts on their sleeves. I sort of love them for that.
Rich I took screenshots of each passing play at 2 seconds. Do that and you sill see a superb performance. You will see something like 17/27 260 yards 3 touchdowns and 1 interception. The last couple of interceptions would never have happened. Throw in the drops and it would be 19/27 and 290 yards or more and 3 touchdowns or more. What is the completion pct of passes where the QB had 2 seconds to pass? And even with that performance they might have lost.
The average snap to throw in the NFL should be around 2 to 2.7 seconds anyway. But collapsing that fast doesn’t help obviously
the rant against Wilson is quite unfair given how good the Cowboy's defense is. Most teams are not going to be able to dropback against the Cowboys. The failure is Hackett's here for calling so few running plays. Even against Belichick is not going to be a good indicator. The Dolphins didnt light it up yesterday against the patriots. Wilson is starting to be a victim of perception where he gets no break/pass from no one.
Still got them in your top 10 teams, Rich? As a Broncos fan, Hackett is a hack. Broncos may still suck, but they look way better doing it.
Jets getting that great number two pick for us.
I sure miss the days of Richard Todd, Freeman McNeil and lack of the immediate disappointment. Jets are gonna Jets.
Tuba did better in wk 1 after Vinnie went down than Wilson did after Rodgers went down
@@slapshot68 Tupa did better than Rodgers, point of fact.
this loss is on the offensive play calling...no question
I tried to warn you Jets fans it's even worse than you thought, you fell into the same trap Denver did last year. Your OC Hackett has a very complex scheme and the two QBs that have been in it struggled mightily in their first season in his scheme. Rodgers is one, he had one of his worst seasons in Hackett's first season as GB offensive coordinator (the pay off was Rodgers back to back MVPs once he mastered the scheme). Russel Wilson was the other last season. There's just no way Zach Wilson is going to be able to adjust this season.
So I guess Blake Bortles didn't fit that narrative.
Considering how Zach had to scramble and made some impressive runs... think Rodgers can do that, healthy at 39 pushing 40? It's the O LINE!!!
Rich's obsession with the JETS is reaching Skip Bayless/Dallas levels. Pretty soon every episode is going to have an hour or so devoted solely to talking about them.
I’m glad sum1 said it 😂
At least for this season because of their super bowl aspirations.
I mean it is his team and his show..
Rich isn't obnoxious and delusional though, the Jets were always gonna dominate headlines this season regardless of Richs loyalty.
At least he's not delusional like Skip
man, it was a 30-10 loss against the cowboys for their home opener while ZW getting 1 week with the starters with a terrible OL. I agree, Saleh needs to get his team under control and get breece more touches, sauce covering WR1, and OL shifts.. but dang we got screwed week 1, not the end of the world...
Soon as Aaron went down their season was over and that’s a shame because Wilson is still too inexperienced to know what he is doing
Zach Wilson needs to be able to throw and be a part of the offense. It's not far to hand cuff him and then give him all the blame. Wilson needs to audible, call his own plays as necessary and give everyone the middle finger and let it fly. He has a great arm but is so muted and put in a straight jacket he wasn't allowed to participate. Defenses THRIVE OFF of that situation.
Brady and mahomes would’ve struggled behind this trash line yesterday. This isn’t Wilson’s fault at all. He really does look like he’s seeing the field better than before. This is your fandom talking more than sober analysis. Give the kid a week or two to adjust to the offense that was designed for rodgers and not him. And blame this OC where he deserves blame for the terrible play calling and blame the organization as a whole for not addressing their offensive line issues.
Slow down Rich, remember the game plan was 1) Jets D is elite! - we'll get you the ball back and provide the opportunities for you on a shorter field, force some TOs, etc. Where was that D? Dallas had it 42 minutes converted 3rd down after 3rd down, dropped an INT, 2) We'll use our running attack so Zach doesn't have to do it all...uh...duh...Dallas is gonna stack the box to make Zach throw and they got stuffed, turns out our OL isn't that great at run blocking either - btw...I do think the Jets get that TD before half to GW if Zach doesn't get that ball tipped and it's a little different game going into half. 3) Minus points 1 & 2 ----yeah it did come down to Zach and by that point Dallas D is teeing off. I get the pain, and you expect it to click right now or never for the kid, but that's NOT the recipe for winning right now, and you can't blame it all on him. Please let me know what other back-up QBs are thriving right now.
Went from Super Bowl aspirations to…with the first pick in the draft
I really enjoy these clips. That being said, why is there a hum whenever Rich speaks? Noise gate covering up some bad hum coming from something in the audio chain.
I feel your pain, Rich. I watched 40 years of my Saints battling year in and year out, always believing next year.... what a joy when Sean and Drew came to town. I follow your Jets waiting for just such a year, hang in there, it's right around the corner!🤎⚜️🖤😶🌫️🏈🏈🏈
It’s one game. Obviously, we have to recalculate and show some initiative. I am glad this Super Bowl talk has ended for now. The reality is that perhaps, even with Rogers, we were not ready for that talk. My hope is that we make the playoffs to show the team is making progress.
You got in right Rich. Run the ball, protect your vulnerable QB.
Got to come up with a better scheme for Zach. At this point, he needs a ton of RPOs to use his legs. Designed QB runs will open up play action. The playmakers are in place.
I missed this game. When I saw Wilson’s stats I shook my head. Then I watched the game. To blame Wilson for this game is just an emotional response.
The kid did not play well, that's for sure. But Rich, you are correct - the coaching sucked. It's like they're trying to set him up to fail. No run game. No screen game. Consequently no play-action. Look at what the Eagles did when the Vikings were shutting down their offense AFTER ONLY THREE SERIES! The coaches need to be able to make obvious adjustments to help their players be in better positions.
We knew if the defense is playing out of their mind they would be totally doomed with Zach Wilson behind that O-Line.
Then why even risk starting Zach?
I think you got to think of it as the Jets can move on from Wilson knowing that he isn't good, and they can let him go after 3 seasons instead of thinking he might be ready in year 4. Condolences on Roger's that was a rough injury.
Look Zach is by no means an elite quarterback & he for sure made his mistakes that game but why does NY media always ignore how bad the offensive line is for the past two games. A New York carpenter could probably stop defenses more than the O-Line. You can’t entirely fault a quarterback when he has zero time to throw & they were getting Rodgers constantly pressured too in his 4 snaps.
Re 4 touches for B. Hall - my wife drafted Hall and she was trying to figure out what to do for week 2, and I told her, "well Rodgers is out and Wilson sucks, they'll have no choice but to rely on Hall and the running game." Boy was I wrong...
How the hell do you blame this game on Zach when they couldn’t protect Michael Vick if they had him.
Zack is totally right this is gonna be a loooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg season!
Garrett Wilson is a class act. How can u not root for that kid !
This is the very definition of insanity. You know what you currently have in Zach Wilson. You should have had a veteran QB behind Rodgers in case he gets hurt.
Zach should have been 3rd string just sitting for a year. This is how NOT to develop a young QB.
Defense was giving them HELL But this is 110% on coaching.
I’ll follow my initial comment with- look at the pressure Zach was having to deal with and tell me you think 40 year old Rogers was going to be able to get out of that more effectively? Maybe he would’ve had the throw always instead of INTs but it wouldn’t have mattered.
Love it! A 40 year old QB and an offensive coordinator that couldn't make it one year before being run outta town, what could go wrong?
As a fellow Jets fan, I feel like Rich verbalizes exactly how I feel in his rants.
As a cowboy fan I’ll say Wilson didn’t do anything wrong; the jets were overmatched up front, played from behind the entire game, OC abandoned the run completely. It’s not like the 3 picks is why Dallas got a big lead, the 3 picks happened when they were down big and running out of time so he had to take chances. I’d rather a qb go down swinging like that then playing cautious.
You said it. It's really not that complicated. Dallas is for real.
The fact that Russel Wilson looks actually decent this season makes me think Hackett has some responsibility tbh
Russ is scoring at a similar rate to last year. Meh.
@@RD-zx6py ?? he had 16 TDs all last season, he already has 5 through 2 games. He is projected to hit closer to 40 TDs at this rate
Honestly, looking at the schedule, they just had a gauntlet early, but the last 2/3 of the season doesn’t look so bad. I could see a 10-7 or 11-6 season, assuming they fire Hackett sooner rather than later.
Excellent breakdown of the game. Imagine if Jets offensive game plan was as good as Cowboys?
Amen... Token Jets fan here cause I'm a Rodgers guy and Breece/Garrett on my fantasy team but cmon man I assumed that game plan would be run run run right at parsons and wear them down. Maybe not get a win but couldve had a better chance or squeaked one out at end of game.
Got to protect your QB!!!
I think Nathaniel Hackett could work with Rodgers, but he feels like the WORST guy to try and salvage an offense out of Zach Wilson
As a Broncos fan, I concur with this statement
I agree that Zach certainly has some room for growth - but come on, it's not like this supposedly "super bowl ready" defense played very well to start or end the game,
Did we watch the same game? We threw because we couldn’t possess the ball all game. We couldn’t possess the ball all game because we couldn’t run and couldn’t block. Zach had no time to throw and when he did receivers were dropping balls left and right. All those passing plays were drawn up trying to either end the half or come back from down 20 in garbage time. This was total domination by the Cowboys.
Rich is right. RUN THE BALL. Even if the Jets would average 2 yards a carry, it sets up the play action. Plus: running the ball burns the clock by at least 2 minutes and 15 seconds. So 7 possessions is an ENTIRE QUARTER that the Cowboys don't have the ball. It gives the opponents less time to score and it wears down their defense physically.
I think this team needs a Norv Turner/ Joe Gibbs type OC. Norv was very good at protecting his QB with running game max protection. Zach has talent but, he didn't get enough of experience at the College level and the Jets (Very Talented Team) are paying the price.
Run “wildcat”
Y’all getting the Hacket special. As a Broncos fan I feel for you.
Hackett really came off as cringe in Hard Knocks. Combined with the body of work in Denver, and it feels like NYJ is going to have a locker room buy-in issue sooner than later
Rich It's Wilson man. Both 9ers and Jets took a qb back to back in that draft but the 9ers were smart enough to realize he wasn't the guy and moved on to avoid ruining a good team. The Jets are stubborn and determined to eventually make it work because of were they took him.
Yesterday it was the o line, coaching, defense and Zach Wilson.overall the whole team was horrible
0:02 someone needs to gif this 😂😂😂😂
“4 snaps and 75 seconds” is the new “butt-fumble”