After all "guilty pleasures" are a thing for a reason. As flawed as the game as, I can see why someone would like Sonic 06, because the game actually does have its redeeming qualities (namely, the controls are decent, some of the levels have good landscape, the music is good, the game has some interesting ideas, etc.). Even though I don't like it, personally.
saying infinite is better than mephiles is like saying a Disney remake is better than the original but that's just me,really the only "big" problem i have with this lol
Also saying that the story from Lost World is on brand bothered me. It's true that Sonic's stories tend to have comedy, but the best ones balance serious plotlines with comedic and goofy moments. Lost World just has a very forgettable story that could have been more interesting with the things it introduced (i.e. Eggman and Sonic teaming up or Tails getting kidnapped and becoming half-cyborg)
Worst to best for me. Worst Sonic boom rise of lyric, because the biggest challenge in development, on this game, is making it playable, which means they ditched every good idea, meaning there is no good in this game, And killed off a potential good company, Because the Wii U is a nightmare to make a game. Sonic forces, because this game has no level design at all in the 3D sections The only reason this is not the worst sonic game is the shadow DLC did try to make the gameplay better, And the 2D sections have level design. Lost world, because it’s Mario galaxy, but worse. Secret rings, because the controls are the second worst, in the sonic franchise. 06 because It does have good level design. And could have been better. if it had a longer development time, than 6 months. Adventure 1 due to it being very flawed, Tails just bypasses the entire level design, because tails can fly, E 123 grammar is just hold 1 button to win, Big the cat fishing mini game. Horrible boss fights, There is good moments in this game, But this game has first game syndrome. Unleashed the HD version of it. Because the warehog stages drag on for to long, and if you miss 1 medal. You have to do the stage all over again. And the graphics are So mind blowing, where the console can’t run it, it frame drops. And makes most of the graphics, as blurry as possible when you go fast. The day stages are enjoyable, but This medal system, completely ruins the warehog stages. Black knight because it improved everything on secret rings, Better controls, And better music, Should I go on. Sonic Hero’s, because the only thing, really holding it back, is playing the game 4 times in a row, just to get the true ending. Shadow 05, because this game Is underrated, Japan narrative, is way better than the English narrative, in every way. The only thing holding this game back, is you’re forced to play the game, over 10 times in a row, For the true ending, Which does make this game very confusing, In a first play through. Frontiers, because the updates, or I nickname them DLCs, Are the only reason this game is ranked this high. The biggest issue with this game is, they made sonic combat way to OP, where you can bypass, the guardians, or titans entire design, by spam pressing cross slash or stomp. Since super sonic has no cooldown, and the only cooldown normal sonic has is if you on top of the air, you can’t use the same attack again, but if your back on the floor, you can spam use the attack, over and over again, That slow down time, or freeze time. Aside from the combat most of my experience in this game is enjoyable and Most of the bad stuff in this game, is optional, and you have no reason to do it. Adventure 2, because knuckles stages. are not as good as adventure 1 knuckles stages. And Tails, full on is just hold 1 button to win. The sequel improved a lot from adventure 1, so obviously had to be ranked high. Sonic colours, because It’s just unleashed Day stages, but even better, the only thing that is trash in this game, is the bosses, And the horrible narrative, That’s about it. Sonic generations, because it only has 2 bad things about it, Planet wisp stage is The worst stage in the game. And The time eater boss sucks. That’s about it. Best for me is Shadow generations, since at worst, the game is decent, at best the game is fantastic. Because my only Minor issues with it is. Mephiles phase 3 could of been better, if we did not bypass it, by spam using time stop, and Neo devil doom could of been way better, if we did not use wings, and that’s about it.
It’s just someone made a version of 06, that is way better, Called P 06. And for the other comments, about the rail canyon part, I said the weakest part of shadow generations is that it’s decent. And rail canyon is a decent stage. Because you can try and bypass rail sections, with chaos spear, There is shortcuts to spend less time on rails, And radical highway have secret shortcuts. And there is a trick where you can jump and stomp, if you homing attack black doom. Meaning you spend less time on an automatic section. Also time stop also helps you, spend less time on rails, Due to shortcuts making you go faster. The biggest problems, rail canyon has, is 1 rails seriously need a balancing system, or does what crash 4 it’s about time did with rails. Because Due to how Shadow generations improved quick step, Where if you hold it, you can drift and go faster. And there is tricks to make the quick step drift trick, to make you go straight and not left or right. where Rails is the only thing left, they need to add Removed features, such as adventure 2 balancing system, returning and being improved. 2 unskippable cutscenes, Yes shadow generations is the best animated game in sonic history, but These cutscenes only works once or twice, And you start to get sick and tired of them, space colony ark act 2, only showed the wing cutscene once for a reason, Since this DLC relies on reply value, Thankfully there is a mod to improve this where They completely remove the gameplay cutscenes, so you can continue playing the game. For Nintendo switch I understand why these cutscenes exist, but Other consoles or PC, there is no reason for these cutscene loading screens, to exist. 3 Pointless radical highway automatic sections, There are parts where the game, won’t let you boost, Or a skydiving automatic section, that won’t let you stomp or go faster in skydiving. My only guess why they did it, is due to the Nintendo switch can’t keep up, Since this game does push the Nintendo switch to the limit, But for other consoles, there is no reason for Shadow going up a building, and making me unusable to boost. Unable to stomp when, passing through the doom starfish design. Or even when rail canyon entirely loads, you can’t Side step or move. 4 act 2 flat out is to short, since You can time stop bypassing half of the level design, Because they shoved to many time stop green circles, where it makes you fly and bypass level design, Because If you go into those Time stop green circles, they won’t drain time stop at all, Where it buffs time stop making it last 4 seconds longer, than the 5 second limit. And that’s my only issues with rail canyon, Unless I count time stop flat out ruin, the S rank system, Since you can just spam time stop and make mistakes, and still get a S rank. Or time stop is the biggest reason why not a lot of people can get into shadow generations music, Since time stop constantly stops the music, Making them only listen to a couple of seconds of it, Where the only themes they remember, is the radical highway remixes, Since radical highway sections or acts, makes you stop using time stop. Also most of these issues can easily be fixed with mods, so I’m not that affected about these issues, They are just minor issues, that People will notice in the third or fourth play through.
Project 06 is a significant upgrade if you want to play the levels how they were probably originally intended. rn it's just all levels fully unlocked with no story.
Old games like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 have aged fine in most areas people complain about. What the vast majority of people don't realize is that when games are ported to other consoles, certain areas are downgraded. Three examples: SA:DX's (which every version of SA1 post-Dc is based on) artstyle AND controls are inferior to the original version. Likewise, SA2:B (which yet again every non-DC version is based on) has worse controls, especially worse/borderline broken grind-rail controls, and other stuff. The "x game didn't age well" arguments on average fall flat, because people don't actually play the original versions of games and instead assume ports function the same exact way they did on original hardware.
This is cope, saying ports have certain areas that are downgraded like it’s a fact or natural is just not true Plenty of games have ports that do the games justice and even improve on the original, the sonic games have had historically bad ports out of incompetence plain and simple. It’s nobody but segas fault that the most accessible way to play some of the Sonic games are inherently worst versions of the game
@@Kollieprime9 You're literally the one coping. I stated a pure 110% fact. Some Sonic games are not remotely the only IP that has downgrades or things made worse in ports, and you can't blame Sega for all the faults when this happens regardless of the many developers who've ported a Sonic game. You're being ignorant, and this is actually extremely simple. A game is being put on new hardware, hardware it wasn't designed for, so... NATURALLY... it will come with new flaws. Budget and work ethic is entirely irrelevant and does nothing. This isn't a debate and there is no debate to be had. Input delay and less directional movement are some (but obviously not all) of the most common/universal issues with ports. If you think ports are 1:1 and completely superior to their original counterpart, then you have a hell of a lot more (if any previously) research to do.
@@windy3935 all you’re doing is putting words in my mouth lmao, I never said ports are all identical or broadly superior, nor did I imply only sonic has had this issue of bad ports. There are plenty of ports that are good though, and do not have any substantial flaws. You’re ignoring the obvious difference between a company just screwing up the game from bad decisions or incompetence and when companies actually take the time to make sure the product is handled with care. Newsflash, it’s still on sega for release broken games in states crap like the audio mixing being completely screwed up to the point that you can’t even hear the voices in some scenes of SA2:B. You’re really gonna sit here and pretend like that was some unavoidable flaw that they couldn’t have fixed before release? Get out of here with this shit take lmao Batman Arkham knights pc port was worked on by like 10 or 12 people. If you don’t see that as direct corporate mismanagement leading to the issues with the game on PC idk what else to tell you because we clearly aren’t living in the same reality
@@Kollieprime9 Your gaslighting is ineffective. You said and/or indirectly stated exactly what I previously mentioned. You called the OP "cope", literally disagreed with the ENTIRE idea of game elements being worse in ports (which is my argument... that you replied to), and used Sonic ports against me to make a "counter-argument" to the point just mentioned. "Plenty of ports being good" doesn't even address my argument in the tiniest sense. I didn't ignore anything. You created an ignorant argument without comprehending and understanding the core, and, without knowing what you're talking about. Once again, the company who works on ports is completely moot - no level of work ethic will prevents ports from some things in them feeling worst than they did in their original version. Newsflash, your desire to shit on Sega doesn't address my argument either. Once again, Sega and the Sonic series are not even remotely the only series affected by aspects of games being worst in ports. You're the only one here with shit takes, arguing against a pure fact as if this is debatable. BAA is not only one game but doesn't refute the utter fact that a large number of ports feel worse in certain areas compared to their original counterpart, which is the only reality there is, whether you accept it or not.
I think Sonic the Werehog's stretchy arms come from the dark energy from Dark Gaia. You can see with the Nightmare enemies that when they attack they also have the same stretchy abilities.
My Top Favorite Sonic Games 1. Sonic Adventure DX 2. Sonic '06 3. Sonic Frontiers 4. Sonic Unleashed (X360/PS3) 5. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle 6. Shadow Generations 7. Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
@@WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer I am guessing he is ranking the games he has played (at least I would hope). All opinions are valid, but there are definitely some that I struggle to understand. My only question is why Sonic 06 being ranked so high (a great game with great potential if you don't play the base version)
Explain Sonic Unleashed in the middle is allright, i know many fans always pick this as the best Sonic game because of the day time levels but the flaws in the werehog levels and the frame rate is the issue.
I am finally deciding to check out Sonic and I couldn't have done it of course with anything else other than Frontiers because it is free on PS Plus. I am pretty glad to see it pretty high upon this list, it's exciting that this is a game that most people like and hopefully it's a great introduction into the series. If one thing's for sure is that it looks great on PS5. ❤
Refreshing to see someone who doesn't cry about SA2 treasure hunting, one of my favorite parts of the game. It's fine to not like the SA2 treasure hunting but people acting like it's the worst thing they've ever played is just silly to me lol
@praisejeezus8639 Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Colors, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic and all stars racing transformed, Frontiers, Generations... That heck you mean above average? ☠️
@@AriaKyuKyu Sonic Unleashed is an above average Sonic game, Sonic Colors is eh, especially the remaster, Rush Adventure is not a mainline title and is a handheld spin- off which when compared to most 2D Sonic outings is OK at best, Sonic Racing is a crazy cope those games belong in the trash, and Generations is very good. Frontiers is fun but it’s a boring grind after a while. So one very good game and a lot of mid in the last 15-20 years. I agree Sonic ‘06 never did Defcon 3 levels of damage to the franchise like most would say, Forces imo is worse. However Sega and Sonic team haven’t been able to hit a stride with their games in 2 decades, every time they take a step forward they somehow take 2 steps back usually
Here's mine: 15: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric 14: Sonic 3D Blast 13: Sonic the Hedgehog 06 12: Sonic and the Secret Rings 11: Sonic Forces 10: Sonic and the Black Knight 9: Shadow the Hedgehog 8: Sonic Lost World 7: Sonic Heroes 6: Sonic Unleashed 5: Sonic Frontiers 4: Sonic Colors 3: Sonic Adventure 2: Sonic Generations (which includes Shadow's part of the story) 1: Sonic Adventure 2
My top 4 Sonic games are: 1. Sonic X Shadow Generations, I agree that Shadow's portion is the GOAT, I like that part of it the most. I've had a lot of fun playing it, the story is quite interesting and emotional. It will be even better in late December when that Sonic 3 movie tie-in Tokyo inspired stage with Game Shadow taking on the form of Movie Shadow with some voice lines from Keanu Reeves, DLC becomes available. I became soo pleased when I found out that ever since release day the Digital Deluxe bonus stuff was available to be sold seprately as an update for players who didn't perchase that version of that game! 2. Sonic Adventure 2, in my childhood I had trouble with liking it soo much because of me not being talented enough to get though all 3 stories, so I kept failing and gave up. The biggest personal problem that the difficultiy caused for me was that until I became old enough to start checking out RUclips videos and saw a walkthrough of the Finalhazard boss battle I never knew what the lyrics of that game's banger theme song "Live and Learn" were!!!!! In my childhood all I ever heard of it was the lyricless versions that get played as interesting hard rock main menu background music. I finally got through all the stages and boss battles in December 2022 and then it became one of my top favorite Sonic games and currently I think that that song is my #1 favorite one of all the songs I've ever listened to in my life! 3. Sonic Adventure 1, I've had the Dreamcast original versions of both of the Adventure games and a DC console that still works. That game was easier so I liked it more than the sequel in my childhood and I still think of it as one of the best 3D Sonic games. 4. Sonic Frontiers, I agree that especially with the free updates that game has been a step in the right direction. Like anyone else who played it I never liked the ridiculus pop-ins that that game is stuck with and 1-2 was the hardest cyberspace stage to ever S rank, but I finally did after a lot of tries and learning online what I had to do to S rank that stage and unlocked that Frontier Elite crown thing. If you S rank all the time trials on each island then the SpinDash gets unlocked.
My ranking of every sonic game I’ve played: 16 Sonic 1 15 Sonic Forces 14 Sonic Lost Word 13 Sonic 2 12 Sonic colors 11 Sonic and the secret rings 10 Sonic Generations 9 Sonic and the Black Knight 8 Sonic mania 7 Sonic 3/Sonic and knuckles 6: Shadow Generations 5 Sonic frontiers 4 Sonic Adventure 2 3 Sonic heroes 2 Sonic unleashed 1 Sonic adventure (06 not being on it it’s been too long I don’t own it)
My tier list: Sonic 3D Blast (all versions) (B Tier) Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut (A- Tier) Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (A- Tier) Sonic Heroes (A- Tier) Shadow the Hedgehog (C Tier) Sonic 06 (C- Tier) Sonic and the Secret Rings (C- Tier) Sonic Unleashed (Xbox) (B+ Tier) Sonic Unleashed (Wii) (A+ Tier) Sonic and the Black Knight (B+ Tier) Sonic Colors (Wii) (S Tier) Sonic Colors Ultimate (S Tier) Sonic Generations (A+ Tier) Sonic Lost World (Wii U) (A- Tier) Sonic Lost World (3DS) (A- Tier) Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric (C- Tier) Sonic Forces (B+ Tier) Sonic Frontiers (S Tier) (Best to date) Sonic ❌ Shadow Generations (S Tier)
During my playthrough of Adventure 2 this year I completely forgot to finish the game because I got so caught up rasing my chao for months... Still havent beaten the game. Maybe next time.
for some reason it always bugged me when they would have sonic grinding with his normal shoes. I liked the idea of him wearing the soap shoes in SA2 and grinding was a new unique aspect to that game.
Regarding Shadow the Hedgehog I would note that a lot of the edginess in Shadow the Hedgehog was only in the dub. Also the endings themselves weren’t meaningless. The point of the plot was that Shadow has amnesia and is obsessed with the past. It also explores the biggest criticism of Shadow in SA2 which is that he had no agency. It presented a lot of possibilities of what Shadow becomes based on what he believes and what he sees in his past. The last story subvert that’s in that he doesn’t need the truth of his past to determine his morality and can decide on his own. Also I would suggest playing the expert mode, it’s so much better that way. I’d recommend this video covering the story. ruclips.net/video/XMJgieQUkOs/видео.htmlsi=zOECevoJhuVDFJ2p
I personally think the first adventure game is better than the 2nd. I preferred the free roam but adventure 2 for me gets dragged down due to the knuckles and rouge levels. Tails is a lot better to play to
Water from Hydrocity Zone! I think I don’t love this series *that* much and it’s clear going through the video that it takes a long time into the countdown before there are games that are good without caveats 😅 I really liked Frontiers and I thought original Generations was good so I’ll pick up Sonic X Shadow when that’s on sale. Honestly I don’t think Adventure 2 is as good as Adventure 1 which may be a hot take, idk.
Call me crazy but my favorite sonic games are: 1-Sonic Adventure 2-Sonic Frontiers 3-Sonic 06 4-Sonic Adventure 2 I really didn't like the boost games (unleashed, colors and generations) at all.
Ah yes the werehog. Where you can 2 hit straight punch a robot, the SHORYUKEN it and Grab it mid air and piledriver it into a bunch of other enemies. Why the hell every gameplay of the werehog doing the must boring and shit combos, is not even that difficult, heck the werehog can even Gatlingun like luffy from one piece shoryken again and them do a slam a la crash or Do a GIANT PUNCH from the air to the floor like come on PEOPLE!!!
Thanks for not bending on 06, so many people calling this peak and I’m like, no it’s ass it’s still ass, I played it THIS year for the first time and it’s sucks
I have to disagree about Sonic 3D Blast though. I actually enjoy the game alot. You should try out the Director's Cut hack for the Mega Drive / Genesis. Also, it's not really a 3D game is it? It's not made of polygons.
In my opinion, Colors, Generations and Frontiers are the only good 3D Sonic games. I hard disagree on the two Adventures games being on the podium, they aged terribly IMO and are not fun anymore...
Has enough time passed that we are now in the "06 is pretty good, actually" stage now? Crazy hearing that after well over a decade of people saying this was one of the worst games ever.
Well i like forces more than 06, the story is not a huge mess like Forces. As for the secret rings my brother prefer that over 06. If fans prefer boost levels from Unleashed, i say forces with no werehog and not overhate it so easy.
@@crackheadspeedway6788 Forces is always the least deserved of all by far. Phenomenal presentation, amazing OST, the best voice acting of its era for what it's worth, decent characterization for everyone except from Tails, the gameplay and level design lacks depth but is still fun, the Avatar and Wispons was a fun system, the game has great set pieces throughout levels, the environmental storytelling is great and the background are incredibly dynamic and some of Sonic Team's best. All of these except the gameplay being fun are OBJECTIVE positives. But no, BaD tAiLs LiNeAr LeVeL dEsIgN InFiNiTe MeH vLaSsIc SoNiC bAd StOrY uNdErWhElMiNg So GaMe 1/10 WeLl DeSeRvEd GuYs FoR rEaL. Get real. It's never deserved, it's arguably the most underserved hate any game in the franchise receives. I don't love it myself but it's literally fine, it's an OK 7/10.
Unleashed is mad overrated. Werehog takes up majority of the game and it's just a boring beat 'em up. The forced medal collection even makes you play the night stages even more because there's more medals in them and the levels are designed for you to find them.
The werehog levels are a good example of forced gimmicky nonsense that doesn't fit the spirit of sonic. In both versions they go on for ages and take over 60% of the game. Nobody asked for a God of War knockoff in a sonic game and it gets a lot of hate. 3d Sonic alternate playstyles are stinkers at times (barring a few) and the werehog is a good example. The Wii/Ps2 version is easier to get into and doesn't force you to collect medals so that's something.
My ranking is this: 1. SA2 2. SA1 3. 06 (this and SA1 could honestly swap depending on the day) 4. Heroes 5. Shadow 05 6. Unleashed 7. Generations 8. Shadow Generations 9. Frontiers 10. Lost World 11. Black Knight 12. Secret Rings 13. Colors 14. 3d Blast 15. Forces
Sonic adventure 2 is overrated garbage, 2/3rd of the game is slow repetitive filler, it’s boring, has bad level design and take up most of the game, speed stages are not impressive either, almost every level is a linear ass corridor and unstable automated sequences, SA2 is only carried for the story and chao garden, heroes, unleashed, generations and colours are better sonic games then adventure 2 in every way possible
sonic adventure 1 and 2 are hood classics shoutout big the cat
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Its okay to like 06. Heck its okay to like any game. Even if you look crazy
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After all "guilty pleasures" are a thing for a reason. As flawed as the game as, I can see why someone would like Sonic 06, because the game actually does have its redeeming qualities (namely, the controls are decent, some of the levels have good landscape, the music is good, the game has some interesting ideas, etc.). Even though I don't like it, personally.
Hey commenting 1 month later. I just wanna say 06 is one of my fav sonic games :)
Bro underrates Sonic Unleashed, never let him cook again
saying infinite is better than mephiles is like saying a Disney remake is better than the original but that's just me,really the only "big" problem i have with this lol
Also saying that the story from Lost World is on brand bothered me. It's true that Sonic's stories tend to have comedy, but the best ones balance serious plotlines with comedic and goofy moments. Lost World just has a very forgettable story that could have been more interesting with the things it introduced (i.e. Eggman and Sonic teaming up or Tails getting kidnapped and becoming half-cyborg)
Worst to best for me.
Worst Sonic boom rise of lyric, because the biggest challenge in development, on this game, is making it playable, which means they ditched every good idea, meaning there is no good in this game, And killed off a potential good company, Because the Wii U is a nightmare to make a game.
Sonic forces, because this game has no level design at all in the 3D sections The only reason this is not the worst sonic game is the shadow DLC did try to make the gameplay better, And the 2D sections have level design.
Lost world, because it’s Mario galaxy, but worse.
Secret rings, because the controls are the second worst, in the sonic franchise.
06 because It does have good level design. And could have been better. if it had a longer development time, than 6 months.
Adventure 1 due to it being very flawed, Tails just bypasses the entire level design, because tails can fly, E 123 grammar is just hold 1 button to win, Big the cat fishing mini game. Horrible boss fights, There is good moments in this game, But this game has first game syndrome.
Unleashed the HD version of it. Because the warehog stages drag on for to long, and if you miss 1 medal. You have to do the stage all over again. And the graphics are So mind blowing, where the console can’t run it, it frame drops. And makes most of the graphics, as blurry as possible when you go fast. The day stages are enjoyable, but This medal system, completely ruins the warehog stages.
Black knight because it improved everything on secret rings, Better controls, And better music, Should I go on.
Sonic Hero’s, because the only thing, really holding it back, is playing the game 4 times in a row, just to get the true ending.
Shadow 05, because this game Is underrated, Japan narrative, is way better than the English narrative, in every way. The only thing holding this game back, is you’re forced to play the game, over 10 times in a row, For the true ending, Which does make this game very confusing, In a first play through.
Frontiers, because the updates, or I nickname them DLCs, Are the only reason this game is ranked this high. The biggest issue with this game is, they made sonic combat way to OP, where you can bypass, the guardians, or titans entire design, by spam pressing cross slash or stomp. Since super sonic has no cooldown, and the only cooldown normal sonic has is if you on top of the air, you can’t use the same attack again, but if your back on the floor, you can spam use the attack, over and over again, That slow down time, or freeze time. Aside from the combat most of my experience in this game is enjoyable and Most of the bad stuff in this game, is optional, and you have no reason to do it.
Adventure 2, because knuckles stages. are not as good as adventure 1 knuckles stages. And Tails, full on is just hold 1 button to win. The sequel improved a lot from adventure 1, so obviously had to be ranked high.
Sonic colours, because It’s just unleashed Day stages, but even better, the only thing that is trash in this game, is the bosses, And the horrible narrative, That’s about it.
Sonic generations, because it only has 2 bad things about it, Planet wisp stage is The worst stage in the game. And The time eater boss sucks. That’s about it.
Best for me is Shadow generations, since at worst, the game is decent, at best the game is fantastic. Because my only Minor issues with it is. Mephiles phase 3 could of been better, if we did not bypass it, by spam using time stop, and Neo devil doom could of been way better, if we did not use wings, and that’s about it.
Shadow Generations has Rail Canyon, tho.
It’s just someone made a version of 06, that is way better, Called P 06.
And for the other comments, about the rail canyon part, I said the weakest part of shadow generations is that it’s decent. And rail canyon is a decent stage. Because you can try and bypass rail sections, with chaos spear, There is shortcuts to spend less time on rails, And radical highway have secret shortcuts. And there is a trick where you can jump and stomp, if you homing attack black doom. Meaning you spend less time on an automatic section.
Also time stop also helps you, spend less time on rails, Due to shortcuts making you go faster.
The biggest problems, rail canyon has, is 1 rails seriously need a balancing system, or does what crash 4 it’s about time did with rails. Because Due to how Shadow generations improved quick step, Where if you hold it, you can drift and go faster. And there is tricks to make the quick step drift trick, to make you go straight and not left or right. where Rails is the only thing left, they need to add Removed features, such as adventure 2 balancing system, returning and being improved.
2 unskippable cutscenes, Yes shadow generations is the best animated game in sonic history, but These cutscenes only works once or twice, And you start to get sick and tired of them, space colony ark act 2, only showed the wing cutscene once for a reason, Since this DLC relies on reply value, Thankfully there is a mod to improve this where They completely remove the gameplay cutscenes, so you can continue playing the game. For Nintendo switch I understand why these cutscenes exist, but Other consoles or PC, there is no reason for these cutscene loading screens, to exist.
3 Pointless radical highway automatic sections, There are parts where the game, won’t let you boost, Or a skydiving automatic section, that won’t let you stomp or go faster in skydiving. My only guess why they did it, is due to the Nintendo switch can’t keep up, Since this game does push the Nintendo switch to the limit, But for other consoles, there is no reason for Shadow going up a building, and making me unusable to boost. Unable to stomp when, passing through the doom starfish design.
Or even when rail canyon entirely loads, you can’t Side step or move.
4 act 2 flat out is to short, since You can time stop bypassing half of the level design, Because they shoved to many time stop green circles, where it makes you fly and bypass level design, Because If you go into those Time stop green circles, they won’t drain time stop at all, Where it buffs time stop making it last 4 seconds longer, than the 5 second limit.
And that’s my only issues with rail canyon, Unless I count time stop flat out ruin, the S rank system, Since you can just spam time stop and make mistakes, and still get a S rank. Or time stop is the biggest reason why not a lot of people can get into shadow generations music, Since time stop constantly stops the music, Making them only listen to a couple of seconds of it, Where the only themes they remember, is the radical highway remixes, Since radical highway sections or acts, makes you stop using time stop.
Also most of these issues can easily be fixed with mods, so I’m not that affected about these issues, They are just minor issues, that People will notice in the third or fourth play through.
Project 06 is a significant upgrade if you want to play the levels how they were probably originally intended. rn it's just all levels fully unlocked with no story.
Water... The chao garden took a year off my life and I have no shame for it lol
I took 4 off of me
I never seen a PS2 console last so long in anyone else's hands
Old games like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 have aged fine in most areas people complain about. What the vast majority of people don't realize is that when games are ported to other consoles, certain areas are downgraded. Three examples: SA:DX's (which every version of SA1 post-Dc is based on) artstyle AND controls are inferior to the original version. Likewise, SA2:B (which yet again every non-DC version is based on) has worse controls, especially worse/borderline broken grind-rail controls, and other stuff. The "x game didn't age well" arguments on average fall flat, because people don't actually play the original versions of games and instead assume ports function the same exact way they did on original hardware.
This is cope, saying ports have certain areas that are downgraded like it’s a fact or natural is just not true
Plenty of games have ports that do the games justice and even improve on the original, the sonic games have had historically bad ports out of incompetence plain and simple. It’s nobody but segas fault that the most accessible way to play some of the Sonic games are inherently worst versions of the game
@@Kollieprime9 You're literally the one coping. I stated a pure 110% fact.
Some Sonic games are not remotely the only IP that has downgrades or things made worse in ports, and you can't blame Sega for all the faults when this happens regardless of the many developers who've ported a Sonic game. You're being ignorant, and this is actually extremely simple. A game is being put on new hardware, hardware it wasn't designed for, so... NATURALLY... it will come with new flaws. Budget and work ethic is entirely irrelevant and does nothing. This isn't a debate and there is no debate to be had. Input delay and less directional movement are some (but obviously not all) of the most common/universal issues with ports. If you think ports are 1:1 and completely superior to their original counterpart, then you have a hell of a lot more (if any previously) research to do.
@@windy3935 all you’re doing is putting words in my mouth lmao, I never said ports are all identical or broadly superior, nor did I imply only sonic has had this issue of bad ports.
There are plenty of ports that are good though, and do not have any substantial flaws. You’re ignoring the obvious difference between a company just screwing up the game from bad decisions or incompetence and when companies actually take the time to make sure the product is handled with care.
Newsflash, it’s still on sega for release broken games in states crap like the audio mixing being completely screwed up to the point that you can’t even hear the voices in some scenes of SA2:B. You’re really gonna sit here and pretend like that was some unavoidable flaw that they couldn’t have fixed before release? Get out of here with this shit take lmao
Batman Arkham knights pc port was worked on by like 10 or 12 people. If you don’t see that as direct corporate mismanagement leading to the issues with the game on PC idk what else to tell you because we clearly aren’t living in the same reality
@@Kollieprime9 Your gaslighting is ineffective. You said and/or indirectly stated exactly what I previously mentioned. You called the OP "cope", literally disagreed with the ENTIRE idea of game elements being worse in ports (which is my argument... that you replied to), and used Sonic ports against me to make a "counter-argument" to the point just mentioned.
"Plenty of ports being good" doesn't even address my argument in the tiniest sense. I didn't ignore anything. You created an ignorant argument without comprehending and understanding the core, and, without knowing what you're talking about. Once again, the company who works on ports is completely moot - no level of work ethic will prevents ports from some things in them feeling worst than they did in their original version.
Newsflash, your desire to shit on Sega doesn't address my argument either. Once again, Sega and the Sonic series are not even remotely the only series affected by aspects of games being worst in ports. You're the only one here with shit takes, arguing against a pure fact as if this is debatable.
BAA is not only one game but doesn't refute the utter fact that a large number of ports feel worse in certain areas compared to their original counterpart, which is the only reality there is, whether you accept it or not.
29:44 "It's as shrimple as that." Lol
I will never not call mephiles "me files"
I think Sonic the Werehog's stretchy arms come from the dark energy from Dark Gaia. You can see with the Nightmare enemies that when they attack they also have the same stretchy abilities.
My Top Favorite Sonic Games
1. Sonic Adventure DX
2. Sonic '06
3. Sonic Frontiers
4. Sonic Unleashed (X360/PS3)
5. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
6. Shadow Generations
7. Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
Shadow at 6! Nit the worst option but why is BOOM there
@@WhyAreWeStilllHereJustToSuffer I am guessing he is ranking the games he has played (at least I would hope). All opinions are valid, but there are definitely some that I struggle to understand. My only question is why Sonic 06 being ranked so high (a great game with great potential if you don't play the base version)
@ 3&K below sonic 2? Sa1 below sa2? Kinda weird list
Like that five of your favorite Sonic games are five of my favorite Sonic games and your second best Sonic game is Sonic Adventure.
Congrats on 50k dude ‼️‼️‼️
You are a legend sir I hope you appreciated the amigo sign in radical highway in Shadow gens
Thanks for making these videos I appreciate it keep it up
Love your videos, thanks 🙏
Explain Sonic Unleashed in the middle is allright, i know many fans always pick this as the best Sonic game because of the day time levels but the flaws in the werehog levels and the frame rate is the issue.
My personal favourite is Heroes followed by Generations, then a tie between SA2 and Unleashed then SA1
I am finally deciding to check out Sonic and I couldn't have done it of course with anything else other than Frontiers because it is free on PS Plus. I am pretty glad to see it pretty high upon this list, it's exciting that this is a game that most people like and hopefully it's a great introduction into the series. If one thing's for sure is that it looks great on PS5. ❤
I'd like to see a video of your favorite and / or best 2d platformers for each decade - 90s, 00s, 10s, etc.
Finally someone else who considers Sonic 3D Blast the first true 3D Sonic game
Hey welcome back dude. Nice hair do! :)
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ive been feeling like playing all these 3d games for a while now, so the timing of this video was fantastic for me
Refreshing to see someone who doesn't cry about SA2 treasure hunting, one of my favorite parts of the game. It's fine to not like the SA2 treasure hunting but people acting like it's the worst thing they've ever played is just silly to me lol
"Irreparable damage to the franchise_" oh my god dude, it's been 18 years! They already fixed the franchise
Secret rings better than 06? Hell no!
Darkspine sonic hard Carrie’s secret rings
A couple above average games in the last 15+ years does NOT mean they fixed the franchise💀
@praisejeezus8639 Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Colors, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic and all stars racing transformed, Frontiers, Generations... That heck you mean above average? ☠️
@@AriaKyuKyu Sonic Unleashed is an above average Sonic game, Sonic Colors is eh, especially the remaster, Rush Adventure is not a mainline title and is a handheld spin- off which when compared to most 2D Sonic outings is OK at best, Sonic Racing is a crazy cope those games belong in the trash, and Generations is very good. Frontiers is fun but it’s a boring grind after a while. So one very good game and a lot of mid in the last 15-20 years. I agree Sonic ‘06 never did Defcon 3 levels of damage to the franchise like most would say, Forces imo is worse. However Sega and Sonic team haven’t been able to hit a stride with their games in 2 decades, every time they take a step forward they somehow take 2 steps back usually
@@praisejeezus8639 bruh... What a sad opinion of the franchise
Sonic hero’s soundtrack goes so fkn hard. Thats my childhood . Still waiting for a remake or something. WATER
Colours over unleashed is crazy
@ If he’s talking about the overall game then colours maybe the choice but if he talking with a sonic fan perspective then unleashed 100%
@@dynamicyouthtube everyone got an opinion that what makes us humans
Here's mine:
15: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
14: Sonic 3D Blast
13: Sonic the Hedgehog 06
12: Sonic and the Secret Rings
11: Sonic Forces
10: Sonic and the Black Knight
9: Shadow the Hedgehog
8: Sonic Lost World
7: Sonic Heroes
6: Sonic Unleashed
5: Sonic Frontiers
4: Sonic Colors
3: Sonic Adventure
2: Sonic Generations (which includes Shadow's part of the story)
1: Sonic Adventure 2
My top 4 Sonic games are:
1. Sonic X Shadow Generations, I agree that Shadow's portion is the GOAT, I like that part of it the most. I've had a lot of fun playing it, the story is quite interesting and emotional. It will be even better in late December when that Sonic 3 movie tie-in Tokyo inspired stage with Game Shadow taking on the form of Movie Shadow with some voice lines from Keanu Reeves, DLC becomes available. I became soo pleased when I found out that ever since release day the Digital Deluxe bonus stuff was available to be sold seprately as an update for players who didn't perchase that version of that game!
2. Sonic Adventure 2, in my childhood I had trouble with liking it soo much because of me not being talented enough to get though all 3 stories, so I kept failing and gave up. The biggest personal problem that the difficultiy caused for me was that until I became old enough to start checking out RUclips videos and saw a walkthrough of the Finalhazard boss battle I never knew what the lyrics of that game's banger theme song "Live and Learn" were!!!!! In my childhood all I ever heard of it was the lyricless versions that get played as interesting hard rock main menu background music. I finally got through all the stages and boss battles in December 2022 and then it became one of my top favorite Sonic games and currently I think that that song is my #1 favorite one of all the songs I've ever listened to in my life!
3. Sonic Adventure 1, I've had the Dreamcast original versions of both of the Adventure games and a DC console that still works. That game was easier so I liked it more than the sequel in my childhood and I still think of it as one of the best 3D Sonic games.
4. Sonic Frontiers, I agree that especially with the free updates that game has been a step in the right direction. Like anyone else who played it I never liked the ridiculus pop-ins that that game is stuck with and 1-2 was the hardest cyberspace stage to ever S rank, but I finally did after a lot of tries and learning online what I had to do to S rank that stage and unlocked that Frontier Elite crown thing. If you S rank all the time trials on each island then the SpinDash gets unlocked.
I'm shocked Unleashed wasn't in the Top 5 with how much fans say it's the "best Sonic game"
I mean it was number 6 so pretty high up
Because half the game isn’t sonic
Lmao @@Soniman001 Skill issue
@@Bombastic_daioh I don’t buy sonic to play god of war I buy it to play sonic
@Soniman001 Suuure bro keep coping lol
Water. Great video chief.
Maybe it's kinda weird but I am not even sure if I have ever played sonic in my life lolz. Maybe just one of the racing games or something. ❤ x
thanks man
My ranking of every sonic game I’ve played:
16 Sonic 1
15 Sonic Forces
14 Sonic Lost Word
13 Sonic 2
12 Sonic colors
11 Sonic and the secret rings
10 Sonic Generations
9 Sonic and the Black Knight
8 Sonic mania
7 Sonic 3/Sonic and knuckles
6: Shadow Generations
5 Sonic frontiers
4 Sonic Adventure 2
3 Sonic heroes
2 Sonic unleashed
1 Sonic adventure
(06 not being on it it’s been too long I don’t own it)
My tier list:
Sonic 3D Blast (all versions) (B Tier)
Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut (A- Tier)
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (A- Tier)
Sonic Heroes (A- Tier)
Shadow the Hedgehog (C Tier)
Sonic 06 (C- Tier)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (C- Tier)
Sonic Unleashed (Xbox) (B+ Tier)
Sonic Unleashed (Wii) (A+ Tier)
Sonic and the Black Knight (B+ Tier)
Sonic Colors (Wii) (S Tier)
Sonic Colors Ultimate (S Tier)
Sonic Generations (A+ Tier)
Sonic Lost World (Wii U) (A- Tier)
Sonic Lost World (3DS) (A- Tier)
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric (C- Tier)
Sonic Forces (B+ Tier)
Sonic Frontiers (S Tier) (Best to date)
Sonic ❌ Shadow Generations (S Tier)
19:36 infinite is what now
Shocked Unleashed ranked low, I believe it's the best Sonic game and I grew up with the classics and Adventure games.
open your eyes....... daytime stages are about 10% of the whole experience.... the rest is shit
@@KFCGull casual
@@KFCGullwhat a lie...
@@KFCGull The Werehog is better than the day time stages tf are you talking about?
@@KFCGullok is not that low but still yeah the daytime stages got disrespected by that HOG that I didn’t ask for it to be in the game
I'm considering frontiers because of this video
I actually have quite a fondness for secret rings
My top 3
1. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
2. Sonic Generations
3. Sonic Frontiers
During my playthrough of Adventure 2 this year I completely forgot to finish the game because I got so caught up rasing my chao for months... Still havent beaten the game. Maybe next time.
Sonic 3D blast is no where near as bad as you say. I love it because i played it on Nintendo gamecube with the analog controls
Holy cow you’re hair is growing long. I haven’t watched your video for awhile. I’ve been getting busy lately.
for some reason it always bugged me when they would have sonic grinding with his normal shoes. I liked the idea of him wearing the soap shoes in SA2 and grinding was a new unique aspect to that game.
Regarding Shadow the Hedgehog I would note that a lot of the edginess in Shadow the Hedgehog was only in the dub.
Also the endings themselves weren’t meaningless. The point of the plot was that Shadow has amnesia and is obsessed with the past. It also explores the biggest criticism of Shadow in SA2 which is that he had no agency. It presented a lot of possibilities of what Shadow becomes based on what he believes and what he sees in his past.
The last story subvert that’s in that he doesn’t need the truth of his past to determine his morality and can decide on his own.
Also I would suggest playing the expert mode, it’s so much better that way.
I’d recommend this video covering the story.
ruclips.net/video/XMJgieQUkOs/видео.htmlsi=zOECevoJhuVDFJ2p
I CANNOT UNHEAR SONIC WEIRDOS
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?
Unleashed being this low should be criminal. Unleashed is objectively easily one of the best 3D games.
But the werehog level says to be a letdown and goes too long.
Objectively half the game you don’t play as sonic
Opinions exist buddy
@@Theultimatelifeform2001 And those opinions are wrong lol what's your point?
Sonic 3D Blast wasn't great but I would still play that before Altered Beast, lol.
I won't lie that it's a more substantial game than Altered Beast, but I actually rather enjoy Altered Best. Not sure why it's so hated.
I know that the Sonic Boom is Bad but I'm still curious I want to play it lol
I personally found Black Knight and Shadow overhated, and I think the Adventures games are the two best.
“Sonic Boom is one of the worst things ever made”… looks over at my two 100% save files…
bruh.....
@@TotallyTubularJonathan What???
I think I only ever played Generations to install the "Run around as a massive penis" mod. Good times
11:50 thats a headshot not a hedgehog
I personally think the first adventure game is better than the 2nd. I preferred the free roam but adventure 2 for me gets dragged down due to the knuckles and rouge levels. Tails is a lot better to play to
Water from Hydrocity Zone! I think I don’t love this series *that* much and it’s clear going through the video that it takes a long time into the countdown before there are games that are good without caveats 😅
I really liked Frontiers and I thought original Generations was good so I’ll pick up Sonic X Shadow when that’s on sale. Honestly I don’t think Adventure 2 is as good as Adventure 1 which may be a hot take, idk.
Call me crazy but my favorite sonic games are:
1-Sonic Adventure
2-Sonic Frontiers
3-Sonic 06
4-Sonic Adventure 2
I really didn't like the boost games (unleashed, colors and generations) at all.
Sonic frontiers does have a spindash
Unpopular opinion: even tho i think SA 2 is a better game, sonic heroes has more replay value for the team sonic and dark campaigns.
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Ah yes the werehog.
Where you can 2 hit straight punch a robot, the SHORYUKEN it and Grab it mid air and piledriver it into a bunch of other enemies.
Why the hell every gameplay of the werehog doing the must boring and shit combos, is not even that difficult, heck the werehog can even Gatlingun like luffy from one piece shoryken again and them do a slam a la crash or Do a GIANT PUNCH from the air to the floor
like come on PEOPLE!!!
Thanks for not bending on 06, so many people calling this peak and I’m like, no it’s ass it’s still ass, I played it THIS year for the first time and it’s sucks
Based
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I have to disagree about Sonic 3D Blast though. I actually enjoy the game alot. You should try out the Director's Cut hack for the Mega Drive / Genesis. Also, it's not really a 3D game is it? It's not made of polygons.
I love the Sega Saturn version
W frontiers Take
In my opinion, Colors, Generations and Frontiers are the only good 3D Sonic games. I hard disagree on the two Adventures games being on the podium, they aged terribly IMO and are not fun anymore...
Colors barely has any 3D it's just as boring as Sonic Forces
Ain't no way this dude just put Secret Rings and Forces higher than 06 :0
They're better than 06 on a technical level
Has enough time passed that we are now in the "06 is pretty good, actually" stage now? Crazy hearing that after well over a decade of people saying this was one of the worst games ever.
@@Olie986 To be fair I always thought 06 was good. Wasn't old enough to troll around the internet back then.
Well i like forces more than 06, the story is not a huge mess like Forces. As for the secret rings my brother prefer that over 06. If fans prefer boost levels from Unleashed, i say forces with no werehog and not overhate it so easy.
hate to be one of those people but where are the time stamps?
Bro, you gonna be eaten by sonic fans
Project 06 #1
I love 06
Clicked off after the 06 take ngl.
I mean og 06 is still horrible, he’s not ranking project 06
@@russellwestbrook462 it's not.
Sonic boom rise of lyric looks like a fucking roblox game
“ the level design in O6 is bad “
Bruh have you ever played project O6?
There’s a reason why they didn’t change the level design in project O6
The whole 06 segment felt like expected hate for the sake of expected hate, same for RoL and Forces.
@@KOTSOSMC2002nah Forces is always deserved
@@crackheadspeedway6788 Forces is always the least deserved of all by far. Phenomenal presentation, amazing OST, the best voice acting of its era for what it's worth, decent characterization for everyone except from Tails, the gameplay and level design lacks depth but is still fun, the Avatar and Wispons was a fun system, the game has great set pieces throughout levels, the environmental storytelling is great and the background are incredibly dynamic and some of Sonic Team's best. All of these except the gameplay being fun are OBJECTIVE positives.
But no, BaD tAiLs LiNeAr LeVeL dEsIgN InFiNiTe MeH vLaSsIc SoNiC bAd StOrY uNdErWhElMiNg So GaMe 1/10 WeLl DeSeRvEd GuYs FoR rEaL. Get real. It's never deserved, it's arguably the most underserved hate any game in the franchise receives. I don't love it myself but it's literally fine, it's an OK 7/10.
@@KOTSOSMC20025/10
@@russellwestbrook462 Called it horrible in another comment and a 5/10 here, 5/10 is mediocre. Inconsistent take.
Sonic and the secret rings holy moly do I hate the gameplay it’s uncontrollable the story is good but it could have been better
06 isn’t that bad lmao
Infinite over Mephiles is a WILD take
Sonic forces is such a mess of a game in my opinion and so disappointing
Sonic forces is the worst
I prefer Forces few game in this list but is still a disappointed and not bad everyone say.
I absolutely disagree. I love forces
@ forces you just go a straight line and nothing else
@ I had a absolute bad time with it when it came out
Forces is ass
Colors and frontiers over unleashed? you can tell he doesn't play sonic much
No he has a brain and realised 80 percent of the game was boring non sonic gameplay. Most sonic fans can tell u they hate the werehog
@LateefA519 pretty sure the werehog is merely controversial, some people hate it and some like it there's no MOST PEOPLE nonsense
Unleashed is mad overrated. Werehog takes up majority of the game and it's just a boring beat 'em up. The forced medal collection even makes you play the night stages even more because there's more medals in them and the levels are designed for you to find them.
The werehog drag the game and are too long, don’t forget the frame rate. Does anyone love the werehog levels more than day levels?
The werehog levels are a good example of forced gimmicky nonsense that doesn't fit the spirit of sonic. In both versions they go on for ages and take over 60% of the game. Nobody asked for a God of War knockoff in a sonic game and it gets a lot of hate. 3d Sonic alternate playstyles are stinkers at times (barring a few) and the werehog is a good example.
The Wii/Ps2 version is easier to get into and doesn't force you to collect medals so that's something.
I hate sonic boom games especially rise of lyrics sucky boring uninteresting and dang ugly
Sonic and 3D is more complicated than my ex and I
ok
My ranking is this:
1. SA2
2. SA1
3. 06 (this and SA1 could honestly swap depending on the day)
4. Heroes
5. Shadow 05
6. Unleashed
7. Generations
8. Shadow Generations
9. Frontiers
10. Lost World
11. Black Knight
12. Secret Rings
13. Colors
14. 3d Blast
15. Forces
Sonic adventure 2 is overrated garbage, 2/3rd of the game is slow repetitive filler, it’s boring, has bad level design and take up most of the game, speed stages are not impressive either, almost every level is a linear ass corridor and unstable automated sequences, SA2 is only carried for the story and chao garden, heroes, unleashed, generations and colours are better sonic games then adventure 2 in every way possible
Worst to best
Frontiers
Forces
Lost World
Secret Rings
06
Sonic Generations
Adventure
Black Knight
Unleashed
Shadow Gens
Heroes
Shadow 05
Adventure 2
Surprised frontiers is the worst, since they did 3 updates, to fix the game or make it more finished.
frontiers below 06 and secret rings is laughable and gens is better than unleashed
Ragebait ain’t working pal
Frontiers is the definition of mid with a bad story lol😂
I hate Sonic Colors frustrating shit game
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