"OI SHE CHANGES HER FOOKIN KNIVES GUYS WE CAN'T TOP THAT" ....Make her Dante by getting multikills? With new weapons--not more swords and guns, *new weapons* --like what he has in DMC4 and 5? She's literally like him personality wise and animation-wise so like...just do that? ".........GUYS WHAT DO WE DO???"
@@greschenglin-dz7wj literally yes. i guess dmc isnt that known but when i played samira at first i was like "this is 1:1 nero with dante personality but female" and why cant they make her some new weapons etc? im not a developer but surely an ability to change weapons in base and their animations would be actually so cool
@@raknieborak7651 The only thing I can say for that is making it so that the model can hold the items properly without them looking junky, so stuff like Pandora's Box/a suitcase, Beowulf/brass knuckles and greaves, and wutever the hat's called would be the go-to weapons that'd take less time but still give the devs something to work with while keeping Sam's main kit intact and functional. I have to say this since for as expanded as they are, the skill animations across the board are consistent, is just the effects are different. Plus something about lol having spaghetti code or something. That would be the standard for an ultimate skin. But it seems we're gunna be seeing the days when firefighter Tristana and that one Corki skin are legit legendary skins so this can pass for an ultimate.
I was just reading something and realized that it doesn't auto come with boarder or icon either. Like every other ultimate. I also own LUX, Seraphine, and Sona. (Got all for free through box or gift) there's just so much that makes this skin not ultimate, and it's so sad because the skin is honestly lovely. All ultimates do come with the icon but you will need to buy them or have them gifted to you for the borders; only seraphine's border comes with the skin as it's part of the missions! You also won't get any of the ward skins unless you pay for them! :D (Edits thanks to hojokarens and bubblylubra)
@@jaredhoff8601 the base skin, unlike other ultimates, does not come with it. You have to pay more just for those add ons. Which came free on every other ulti.
all the ultimate skins except samira comes with icons but the only ultimate skin that gives you the border for free is seraphine, the borders for lux and mf are locked behind an icon that was only available on their release
As a Samira main, I bought it, played a match with it, and can confirm I didn't feel massively satisfied with the price to skin ratio - immediately refunded it. If it was a legendary it'd be awesome but it genuinely isn't worth what it is
As a fellow samira main, I absolutely loved it. I played 7 matches with it so far and I have to say, it makes samira so much better to use. From her auto's, to the minion kill animation ending to the ultimate upgrades. I do not know why everyone is mad about this skin, like okay still the price is much I don't disagree but all the hate about it I really don't understand. Most people hating on it ain't even samira mains or users and be complaining about it but in use the skin completely changes her overall usage, all the other skins the ultimate isn't special or looks any different than the original the only thing that they change is her other abilities. I have all of her skins and a bit after I used all her epics I always a bit after return to her original because they stop feeling special. But with this skin as the game goes on you see the ultimate difference and it feels like good every time because you Always start with the first version and just by leveling it you see the change. It is a skin that samira needed for sure, for her it's a game changer and people who don't see that haven't seen the problem she had in the first place. Her ultimate never felt good before animation, look wise.
@@TravisTaylorMusicTJT I do agree with the whole price thing. If it was something I thought it would be the new skin category between legendary and ultimate. Again tho the skin is truly the master piece samira deserves with some drawbacks.
The lack of any communication by Riot just make things even worse, they could at least try to address why the skin is so highly priced but instead they ignored everybody and release the skin like nothing happened. The fact that they even said in the feedback thread "thank you for all the love and excitement that we are seeing" is a proof that they are living in an alternate universe.
Considering Samira is somewhat inspired by Devil May Cry, and how Dante is in various fighting games like Marvel vs Capcom 3, they could of easily gave Samira a form similar to the Devil Trigger form that Dante has (same as Virgil)
@@mithias1 Yeah, it was based on fighting games. I'm pretty sure Sett is based on one of the characters from Guilty Gear in design and one of his chromas makes him resemble that character even more (Don't quote me on that though i've never played guilty gear)
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the real problem here is the Riot marketing team (or whatever team decides the pricing of things). I had heard talk that Samira started out Legendary, but they kept adding more bits to it (the counter, the pentakill, the ult getting more flashy) and they "decided to make it Ultimate". I feel like this is another case like the TFT Baron tactician where the dev team got really into something and had fun knowing people would like it as is, but then some asshat in marketing/pricing that was in charge of deciding how much things cost went "Wait, we can milk this more" and set the price to a stupid point.
I have Udyr, Sona, and Miss Fortune's ultimate skins and they are all cool in their own way. Samira's skin not only recycles features that other skins have like Empyrean Pyke and Winterblessed Diana, it doesn't have anything emulating an ultimate skin.
The problem with this skin is because Samira herself is super clean when you look at her base model and her skins are well made too so it was impossible to label it ultimate. Would've been nice if we had a new skin tier and she would fit in that tier perfectly
Another thing with Samira being a charity skin is that you wouldn't be able to get her from lootboxes/rerolls until like a month or two after, much like the previous charity skins. But even then, the previous skins were all just regular epic skins rather than an Ultimate. But it does actually put the discussion of wanting a lower price at a default negative since they can just reply "What? You want to give less money to charity?"
You got me wondering, are charity skins refundable in case people don't like them ? Or not cuz wouldn't it be considered taking away from charity after you donated ? idk hahaha
"You want to give less to a charity???" I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that charities can be excuses for dumbing down standards. No one buys a $50k car at $200k for charity. No one should pay for a $13.5 skin at $25 "for charity."
@@greschenglin-dz7wj I was just asking not that I want it refunded or anything I think the skin is cool but generally curious what would happen to the 20% donated. Do they give it back from there own money or back from charity
@@silverslash3616 That's a good question. $5 goes to the charity per purchase; as an estimate for just the skin; so the rest should be paid off them. Now as for whether or not that's the case or it comes out of the host's pocket; Riot, the one that actually owns the skin; legally iunno.
they're a billion dollar company, it wouldn't be a problem to lower the skin price and just have them throw in the missing 5 bucks if they really cared about charity, they care as much about charity as they care about their players, this is just a shitty pr stunt
lately the Ultimate skins are not what they used to be and that is what makes people upset because when you saw a player with Elementalist Lux your reaction was wow that skin is amazing its effects were smooth and clean and it changed what lux felt like but when you look at gun goddess missfortune it doesn't feel much different to other missfortune Skin KDA seraphine is not only undeserved because it was her release skin and it's not even an ultimate or a legendary skin at that it's just 3 epic skins packaged as one skin and here at Samira yes the Skin looks cool amazing and awesome but it's not that different enough to validate a Legendary skin price tag for example look at a Legendary Skin like Dark cosmic Jhin it has unique AA animation walking animations a new Model New effects new death animation as well as 4 different walking animations and that is just a legendary skin and an old one at that and I didn't even mention what makes that skin unique Look at odyssey kayn it makes Kayn Feels grander than usual it changes the entire character of Kayn and Rhaast while still keeping the magic that makes Kayn and Rhaast compelling and it's a Legendary skin Riot has proven that all the Skin criteria are improving in quality except for the mythics and Ultimate skins because lets be real ashen Knight pyke is not as good as project or emperyean dreadnova darius isn't as good as Dunk master which is old as hell or god king
I mean, they are making more and more skins compared to the older seasons. So I guess they are going for quantity instead of quality, which is a dumb move. Really lowers the desire to purchase skins. I mean the only reason newer skins are better looking than the older ones are mainly because the new champs are made modern while some older champs still are using ancient models, so like when a VGU comes out, I get new champ and new skins. Lux is definitely the best ultimate and nothing that came before or come after will surpass it. It was so good I had to buy it on release even though I didnt play Lux that much then
Im dissipointed that they gave samira an ult skin based off fighting games/guilty gear but didn't give her a devil trigger or dragon install transformation
What it comes down to is, they donate 20% of the sales to charity, so ofc Riot can't actually pay any of that themselves, so they calla Legendary skin an Ultimate and make the players pay the difference.
Disclaimer: This is mostly addressed to the folks who complained about Soul Fighter Samira. Ah yes, let's forget about how Udyr and Ezreal both have an ultimate skin that are worse than Samira yet not criticized. If you want to hate, at least be consistent. Nitpicking one thing just shows what kind of person you are instead of acknowledging other examples. Feel free to disagree with me, but provide actual arguments that make sense.
Ah yes, let's forget about the folks who complained about sera ultimate being a glorified epic skin bundle, I don't know if that was also nitpicking. To be fair, reworked SG Udyr was well received. It also gave you upgraded forms when you maxed out skills which was a good move for a champion whose kit revolves around changing forms. But Ezreal...can't deny it's ugly and cluncky af. Most people think so too, I think you overlooked it because of SF Samira issue.
@@OCandD Well every single argument brought up regarding the Samira skin had NOT A SINGLE mention of the other ultimate skins, as if Samira was the stand alone problem. I hope you realize my point was that if you want to hate, be consistent. Don't hate one particular thing and turn a blind eye to something else thats directly related like the Ezreal ultimate skin. But I'm not going to randomly assume that most people hate the ultimate Ezreal skin when there's not much statistical evidence behind that statement. SG Udyr is definitely decent but I find Samira much more visually upgraded in terms of abilities and effects in comparison. Seraphina ultimate skin complaints were mostly due to the prices, since it was much more expensive if I remembered correctly. The majority of the complaints regarding Samira was about visuals and how it meets the "ultimate skin standard". Basically you really missed my point and gave a very shallow argument. You basically just: Gave an unrelated example, gave an opinion, and then made a statement without proof (which is an opinion basically). I suggest you don't reply since you will probably embarrass yourself. Like do you secretly enjoy people ripping your weak arguments apart?
@@blitzwolfer4154 Well it’s almost as if people know what qualities to expect from an ultimate skin without having to refer to other ultimates to point out what’s wrong. You complain about consistency and when I give you examples of people criticizing past ultimates it’s unrelated. (Um, okay?) I didn’t realize consistency was about mentioning past issues that have no meaningful contribution to the current one. I didn’t even get to mention the GGMF issue. I kind of dug my own grave with the Ezreal claim, I’ll give you that. So, you find Samira’s skin is better than Udyr’s? (Gosh is that an opinion in the middle of an argument? How vile!) It’s on me for expecting a decent argument from a random person on the internet. But hey, if you’re one of those people who secretly enjoy feeling superior to others, then I could care less. So, don’t bother mentioning me.
@@OCandD Alright so you know its ironic coming from you right? All I did was respond to every point you made. So responding to opinion, with an opinion, gasp, is surprising? If you actually provided meaningful argumentation then there’s no reason to dissect why your original reply was bad, but the reply to my reply just makes it easier. First of all, people expecting quality from ultimate skins is fine, but the haters who hate the visuals itself (i.e. Samira having same auto attack animation, same spell animations, etc) are the thing I’m pointing out. They should notice the fact its not irregular for the ultimate skins to reuse animations. In regards to the consistency, again, it feels like you don’t understand the word. Definition: Application of something, typically that which is necessary for the sake of logic, accuracy or fairness. So tell me, is it logical or accurate to bring up an example that is about pricing when my original point was about visuals? Also, I’m confused how you came to the conclusion that you think I have a problem with opinions in an argument. I call your arguments shallow because it didn’t add any thing of value or actual backed up rebuttals. Having opinions is not a problem in itself in an argument. I literally never said nor implied that. Finally, at this point you should be able to tell your two previous replies have a lot of problems. Its not even about superiority or whatever. Like clearly you have enough self-awareness to acknowledge you fucked up in some parts of your replies like the Ezreal claim. You should be smart enough to realize some of the shit you wrote makes no sense in terms of relevancy and logic. If you want to have the last word because of pride or something, you can have it. I will admit I made some mistakes with some parts of what I previously wrote. But here’s my final regards to you, mano a mano. Do you agree with this: Should people only hate SF Samira or should they also equally hate the other ultimate skins for the same reasons. I think this mostly concludes this thread. Whether you hate me or whatever, thats up to you. I just wanted to point out inconsistent hate which has become widespread in social media. Like why hate this specific thing and not others that are the same.
As a Samira Main, Riot could definitely have improved the overall vfx and animations. An example would be her R; why not make it where it progresses towards a newer animation such as her ultimate in the Soul Fighters tournament event? (The 2d style button mash game) The final R level could be where Samira slashes and shoots individual targets on where they stand. Or make it where she doesn't reload her gun at all, considering one of her lines is that the benefit of being a soul fighter, you wouldn't have to reload at all 🤔 Riot's Soul Fighter event had some great ideas of what Samira's moves could have been changed into, yet it felt like those ideas were neglected. P.S love the tower and baron effects idea after being destroyed/killed
@alexanderson2558 I should have clarified the Soul Fighters event idea. The fighter event where you progress in defeating other bosses (Pyke, Gwen, etc.) until you get to 2nd phase Viego. I see her ultimate does have a progression, but it's just added pngs on a rotating png, in which, is already seen on other Samira skins already. My idea was that the ultimate vfx should be like the one in the Soul Fighters event, a.k.a, the boss fighting event. (Sorry for the confusion)
IMO they put the skin under charity to hopefully inflate the sales they got of this skin so they can say in the future that actually the reddit thread is just a small fraction of the playerbase and that actual players like the skin ( they have done this before)
Would've have definitely bought it if it was listed as a legendary because it is a really cool skin. But calling it a ultimate skin is not justified in my opinion.
I think there's some information about the skin left out. She *does* transform her abilities throughout the game, like the Ezreal skin. Her R looks different depending on the points put into it. It gets way cooler with each point, so in that regard it does transform. Her Q is obviously very different, but she also does have quite a few move animations that are different, especially after using Q or moving from stand she sometimes does a summersault. the text for damage and all the HUD stuff was mentioned, but I think it's cooler than it seems, her ult even tracks the number of bullets she lands during the cast. I think an important distinction is that this is Samira we're talking about. If they gave a penta effect and cool ultimate ability effect to Yuumi... who cares, you're never gonna see that penta effect. With Samira... you see the ult potentially multiple times per fight AND you see the penta effect way more often than any other champ. I personally think the skin does reach ultimate rarity dues to these considerations, and that this video comes up short with describing the real beauty of the skin. Also, there are so many comments saying the Viego skin is more ultimate.... that's just untrue and y'all know it. If Viego's skin were labelled ultimate the uproar would be WAY more. it's a great legendary skin, but it doesnt do anything an ultimate skin should. I do wish that samira's skin had more unique voice lines like his, but I can accept that amazing visuals as compensation.
@@abhipatil6409 It literally does have new animations. Tons. Q animation is amazing. Movement after some abilities like Q is different. Did you even watch the spotlight of the skin? also it is a new model? It's as if people are just complaining just because other people are without actually looking at the skin for more than 5 seconds.
This is a Legendary through and through, its actually in a lot of ways a little worse than a legendary (hell compare it to Viego's new Legendary) Short Voice Over Bad consistancy with skin (She reloads living guns that she SAYS dont need to be reloaded) No model changes Exact same animations Horribly clunkly looking ultimate animation No new features at all (Kaisa counts kills, Mecha Jax has a taunt with a kill counter, and pentakill animations have been a thing for a long time) There are simply no exclusive features, and whats worse EVERY ultimate skin has INCLUDED additional things Primarily Icons/borders. In order to get Samira's Icon/Border you have to pay ANOTHER 550 RP. This is simply riot's greed getting out of hand and a massive decline in quality. Im a samira main and a huge fan of hers and I am not buying the skin unless it goes to 1820 (not even 2750 or 2250).
the thing is if samria skin is a success , it wil simply drop the quaility on all legendary skins and epic. like some epics are worse than other the bar is already being dropped , the line between epic and standard is getting blured every time, legendary skins also have blured line, but ultmates they trying to drop the bar so low they make legendary skins and milk them for double the price because they think we are smucks.
This is just straight up untrue. It has new animations, both movement and on abilities (especially the Q). Sometimes summersaults that dont appear with base movements. The ultimate upgrades its animation as you level it. It becomes sick by 3 points. It has new features. between the HUD and new text for damage it's nice, but it ALSO counts the bullets she lands during her ult, glowing rainbow if she lands enough. that combined with the counting and taunt kill counter gives a lot of "cool factor" to the skin. Also no model changes? dude... Calling this skin worse than legendary skins just shows that you didn't bother evaluating all of the features of the skin for yourself first, you just jumped on the Riot hating bandwagon because you heard others complaining with arguments that are just straight up false.
The last actual ultimate skin we had was GGMF with Battle Queen Kat being almost close enough. In order for anything to be "Ultimate" tier you gotta be able to change models in game. Seraphine doesn't count, that shits just three skins in one.
this skin is in no way, shape, or form an ultimate skin. they will still release it and call it ultimate ignoring the community as they usually do, but they should rework it separately and release an updated version later on that is actually an ultimate. they should add that legendary+ objective mechanic, make it “souls” she absorbs and change her form depending on the amount of objectives taken; 5/10/15. boom! new mechanic that qualifies her for ultimate tier.
we know they won’t do anything though… just like how they butchered the seraphine epic bundle. an “ultimate” skin called K/DA and instead of having her form change based on her KDA, you’re forced to pick a mediocre epic feeling skin before the game starts. 😵💫
@@edwardlouiscaceres6781 Of course they won't do anything, the skin is already made, they sure as fuck ain't gonna spend more time and resources into making it worthwhile.
There's a lot of people who don't understand why people are mad around the release of this skin. It's not about it not being cool-looking or satisfying to play, it's about Riot continuing to disappoint and lower their own standards with everything they do. It's about them ignoring constructive and just criticisim and instead of addressing it, acting like they don't see it. I'm honestly appalled that people bought it when it is nowhere near the standard of other Ultimate skins. I bought Elementalist Lux a month ago and immediately got Ezreal's after that from a box. I've been having so much fun with both of them, although I should say I believe Ezreal's should also be lowered cause it's even less impressive than Miss Fortune's. At least with MF you can change your form at will lol
I wouldnt say its worth 3250, it has the same thing on pentakills as Winterblessed Diana and Empyrian Pyke, its just a legendary skin with custom damage fonts, If I were to design the skin I wouldve made something to the skin tied to her R, or her passive, like every kill with R to change her VFX Colours, or whenever she kills someone at S Rank on her passive, Battle Queen Katarina changes Daggers whenever she gets 3 takedowns until she gets the last one at 15 takedowns
Should have gave her a cat like devil trigger form which activates with ult and you could make it a timer where as long as she keeps killing she keeps the form..
i mean if they announced it was a legendary i dont think people would have complained ye maybe a few comments about howit doesnt have new animations on basic attacks and movement but otherwise i feel like everyone would have loved it
Even Legendaries change the AA/abilities animations. This is an Epic skin with Legendary/Ultimate gimmicks. Legendary gimmicks are on here taunt/dance/recall which most Epic skin doesnt have (they just used the default dance/taunt animations and change it up a lil bit) + the Pentakill global animations which was introduced on Pyke's/Diana's skin. And her Ultimate gimmicks are the damage font, which i must say is incredibly cool and unique, but can't be justified if that's her only Ultimate quality. I don't think League needs another skin where Riot literally said it would significantly slow the game down like Lux's cause there were too much data on her skin, but at least lower the price or something
It would make so much sense if the skin was originally a legendary skin but changed to an ultimate last second maybe viego was originally the ultimate skin and he had someway to transform into that form he had
I think the problem is that the 1350 - 1820 skins weren't that good back in the day so the ultimate ones really popped making them look more special than they actually were. Nowadays the quality overall of the 1350 skins has increased so drastically that you will see people complain frequently about the 1820 and ultimate skins thinking they got robbed or whatever. Personally I wouldn't pay 25$ for this skin, or any league skin really. But If you like it go for it, in reality you are paying 20$ for the skin and 5$ for a charity since 20% of the skin proceeds will be donated.
Even if you said that, the legendaries still are a bit above the epic tier list (just with the get go of having all new movements animations) but Samira's skin... She has the animation of reloading her gun, and, a voice line that goes something like "the best part of having a soul weapon? No reloading." Like, yeah, the epic skins are better than before but that's no excuse for the price that Samira has right now
1350 skins increased drastically, so why not increase the Ultimate skin's quality as well? or at least, keep its quality as an Ultimate skin? But no, they'd rather make a legendary skin, add few tweaks, use it for charity and bam, you've got yourself a scam skin.
Lux's ultimate skin is the pinnacle of skins. It has everything you want in a skin and it came out in 2016. It has been 7 years and riot has yet to come close to making another skin as nice as that one. Now they are dropping skins that are on the same tier as the lux skin for the same price with far less features. This skin should have been a legendary and they should spend time trying to make an ultimate that is on the same tier as lux's.
Firstly I’d say no it’s not worth it, however there is a lot of cool stuff packed into it. The damage text fonts are really cool, and I like the kill effects. Also the ultimate effects are really nice, especially since they change as you level up. Not saying this skin is worth 3250, but it’s more than a legendary
Epic skins do not come with new animations in general, with exception to recall animation and some unique skins. Only a handful of them change a couple of animations beyond the recall one.
You dont always need to change forms in an ultimate the pentakill animation and the damage number on minions is already something. If they made the animations different and the ult evolving a bit more special i would agree with 25 dollers for this skin.
Missing Form Change and Animations... Yeah, you are right. It really seems like a Legendary Skin. But hey, many people bought it anyway, so Riot will do it again. They don't care if we complain, as long if we buy the stuff. If you really want to complain, don't buy the Skin, this is the only thing that CAN help in the long run.
I own gun goddess miss fortune and honestly, this skin is better imo. like yeah I guess you have 4 skins but I only really ever use one or maybe 2 of them. when it comes to looks and feel soul fighter samira feels like it's on another level to me. but idk, sometimes I might be a little too biased to riot.
honestly they need to update their code at this point so they could deliver stuff like elementalist lux without the excuse of "the game cannot handle it" because elementalist lux actually loads 10 skins instead of 1. a game this popular should not be running on outdated code
I always think that Battle Queen Katarina was probably planned to be an Ultimate skin, but it was downgraded to legendary, so riot could force Seraphine "Ultimate". And the fact that apparently there is already a code within the skin for Katarina to change forms... just makes everything worse. :(
It's still weird how she didn't get a legendary High noon (a skinline that suited her like no others) and now she gets an ultimate with animations that don't feel different. The QUALITY has really gone down with so many skins being released. Still good job to the riot team for trying their best.
someting they can addrers for samia its like giving her a diferent weapon depending of how many characters of the class o possision you kill, like making her tros spels or spritus hits hwhen shi killls jg or a shield for top or tnaks etc
Considering that Jhin's, Morde, Pyke (both) legendary skins are in every single way better this Samira's skin I think it shouldn't be a ULTIMATE but a legendary
I wanted to get the event pass and, stupidly, assumed that the Samira skin was part of the bundle. So I thought, why not? But no, my dumbass ended up buying the skin bundle for Samira and I can't refund it. So I'm now down £30 and all I have for it is Riot's joke of an ultimate skin. I wouldn't be mad if the ultimate skin was an ultimate skin, with different forms, new animations, new voicelines etc but this was just scraping the barrel. Viego should've been the ultimate skin, he literally has more content in his skin than Samira's. Riot are living on a different planet.
This is a must by as a Legendary skin but a HARD pass as an ultimate skin. If we buy this Ultimate skins we teach riot that this quality is good enough for an ultimate skin.
Playing a Legendary for a tank feels more impactful than whatever this thing is. This is the S13 "cinematic" as a skin. I'd probably just get it in a chest and then refund it for essence.
i think riot doesn't have any good ideas about samira but already promised skin so they just released this and just don't give a single $hit about players
Irelia's legendary and samira's ultimate skins have been very disappointing because they dont change the champions base animations, both champions are already so fluid that the only thing they do is paste the skin over them and change the iddle animation leaving everything else untouched
Seems really like bad faith tho focus on the fact that the skin doesn't offer transformation, when you consider Udyr doesn't have one either really (like those are his abilities it's part of the BASE champion design for Udyr)
Legendary + would be a ripoff honestly. Like Pyke and Diana both have that special rift changing animation for like few secs but only if they get penta which is pretty rare thing to happen so if they are gonna charge Legendary skin another 5$ just for some rare animation that you might not see in a 100 games is just not worth it and a ripoff. Like this when a normal Legy skin gets some good reference like Viegos torture dance or Mordekaiser destroying the turret it just makes legy a bit more special but 100% not worth 5$ more.
I think this skin gets more hate than it deserves. Yes, it is not as spectacular as people expected and it doesn't come with free icon, but it is far better than Spirit Guard Udyr or Pulsefire Ezreal. The skin doesn't change forms, but let's be honest, this feature has been overused as fuck. I'm personally way more satisfied with the custom font and style meter design.
No. Past Ultimates; Sera's included; set and maintained the standard of having essential form changes and animations that mostly differ enough from their primaries. Samira's don't. You can bring up legendaries changing interactions with the stage, some of the huds, etc., well a new peak has been set by legends for legends. SF Sam is priced as an ultimate. If ya wanna have that pricing, you drop to 2250rp, cuz you're not doing what GGMF is doing either. Its proceeds going to a "charity" is an insult to the charity itself, cuz something that newer legendaries have been doing lately is an excuse to dumb down the standard for ultimates instead of *showing* us just how much you want the charity to succeed by pulling out the big guns, like gaining new forms per multikill with the option to swap between them with different animations per the weapons used per form: Motorcycle, briefcase, hat, etc. She was released like him she might as well finally *be* him in this skin. But no, apparently the charity isn't even worth a real ultimate skin; never mind a legendary one since ults don't get chromas....which legendaries do. Heck, ONLY the SF Sam skin and the accompanying bundles are going towards the charity. NONE OF THE OTHER SKINS WITH THEIR CHROMAS OR BY THEMSELVES ARE COUNTED. So no. It's not worth it. And dare I even say that the whole "charity" is a sham so riot execs can pocket more coin before its time to trash the company entirely.
Compare it to any other game I'd say its worth it. Overwatch would sell you a $20 "Legendary" skin thats just a color palette swap. But honestly I dont think it belongs to the ultimate skins just because it can't transform.
My issue with Sampras skin is that it brings nothing new, everything it has has been featured in prior legendary skins. The point of Ultimate skins is to bring something new and immersive to the rift- Sampras skin doesn’t achieve this therefore it’s a failed skin.
I wonder why the recharge isn't just a fun animation where the gun ate a soul or something, literally anything but reloading it, since it's not supposed to do that. I feel that as a concept it gives you so many ideas, It makes no sense they settled for that. Why not releasing it just as a legendary? Why pushing the ultimate at all costs?
Katarina's Legendary skin was a game changer and riot doesnt know what to do now
"OI SHE CHANGES HER FOOKIN KNIVES GUYS WE CAN'T TOP THAT"
....Make her Dante by getting multikills? With new weapons--not more swords and guns, *new weapons* --like what he has in DMC4 and 5? She's literally like him personality wise and animation-wise so like...just do that?
".........GUYS WHAT DO WE DO???"
@@greschenglin-dz7wj literally yes. i guess dmc isnt that known but when i played samira at first i was like "this is 1:1 nero with dante personality but female" and why cant they make her some new weapons etc? im not a developer but surely an ability to change weapons in base and their animations would be actually so cool
@@raknieborak7651 The only thing I can say for that is making it so that the model can hold the items properly without them looking junky, so stuff like Pandora's Box/a suitcase, Beowulf/brass knuckles and greaves, and wutever the hat's called would be the go-to weapons that'd take less time but still give the devs something to work with while keeping Sam's main kit intact and functional. I have to say this since for as expanded as they are, the skill animations across the board are consistent, is just the effects are different. Plus something about lol having spaghetti code or something.
That would be the standard for an ultimate skin. But it seems we're gunna be seeing the days when firefighter Tristana and that one Corki skin are legit legendary skins so this can pass for an ultimate.
In my opinion Psy ops Sona
@@raknieborak7651 The thing is that dmc IS THAT known, i mean, Samira is literally based off on this game, this shouldn't be a reason.
Viego's legendary skin is more ultimate than Samiras's
As a Viego main I am super happy he finally has a good skin
@@corbis7765I think king viego is still the best skin for him
@@egemenartuk the voice on the ruins it for me
@@egemenartukI disagree, don’t get me wrong I love that skin but Pentakill Viego will always be a place in my heart
@@Quay2Quiet I love that skin too but I think riot wasted that skin's potential.
I was just reading something and realized that it doesn't auto come with boarder or icon either. Like every other ultimate. I also own LUX, Seraphine, and Sona. (Got all for free through box or gift) there's just so much that makes this skin not ultimate, and it's so sad because the skin is honestly lovely.
All ultimates do come with the icon but you will need to buy them or have them gifted to you for the borders; only seraphine's border comes with the skin as it's part of the missions! You also won't get any of the ward skins unless you pay for them! :D
(Edits thanks to hojokarens and bubblylubra)
It does come with a border and icon lol what
@@jaredhoff8601 Yes and no, it does have them BUT unlike with previous ultimates you need to pay extra. 3800 RP instead of 3250
@@jaredhoff8601 the base skin, unlike other ultimates, does not come with it. You have to pay more just for those add ons. Which came free on every other ulti.
all the ultimate skins except samira comes with icons but the only ultimate skin that gives you the border for free is seraphine, the borders for lux and mf are locked behind an icon that was only available on their release
@@hojokarens ah thank you!
As a Samira main, I bought it, played a match with it, and can confirm I didn't feel massively satisfied with the price to skin ratio - immediately refunded it. If it was a legendary it'd be awesome but it genuinely isn't worth what it is
Thank you for being smart and refunding it :)
As a fellow samira main, I absolutely loved it. I played 7 matches with it so far and I have to say, it makes samira so much better to use. From her auto's, to the minion kill animation ending to the ultimate upgrades. I do not know why everyone is mad about this skin, like okay still the price is much I don't disagree but all the hate about it I really don't understand. Most people hating on it ain't even samira mains or users and be complaining about it but in use the skin completely changes her overall usage, all the other skins the ultimate isn't special or looks any different than the original the only thing that they change is her other abilities. I have all of her skins and a bit after I used all her epics I always a bit after return to her original because they stop feeling special. But with this skin as the game goes on you see the ultimate difference and it feels like good every time because you Always start with the first version and just by leveling it you see the change. It is a skin that samira needed for sure, for her it's a game changer and people who don't see that haven't seen the problem she had in the first place. Her ultimate never felt good before animation, look wise.
@@mariosphillips i'm glad you love it! Don't get me wrong it's an amazing skin but I personally couldn't justify spending £30 on it
@@TravisTaylorMusicTJT I do agree with the whole price thing. If it was something I thought it would be the new skin category between legendary and ultimate. Again tho the skin is truly the master piece samira deserves with some drawbacks.
i was thinking on buying it but 100R$ on a single skin i'll would refund too
The lack of any communication by Riot just make things even worse, they could at least try to address why the skin is so highly priced but instead they ignored everybody and release the skin like nothing happened. The fact that they even said in the feedback thread "thank you for all the love and excitement that we are seeing" is a proof that they are living in an alternate universe.
Bruh, they said that they just "threw in things that felt like legendary tag is limiting it"
they literally just dont care lmao
well its a chinese company, they are known for not giving a f*ck about anybody's complain
Leave it to Riot to never listen to their community, they are just living in their own universe.
Considering Samira is somewhat inspired by Devil May Cry, and how Dante is in various fighting games like Marvel vs Capcom 3, they could of easily gave Samira a form similar to the Devil Trigger form that Dante has (same as Virgil)
Was soul fighter designed off of fighting games? Cause I was just saying last night Naafiri's skin reminds me of Okami
@@mithias1 Yeah, it was based on fighting games. I'm pretty sure Sett is based on one of the characters from Guilty Gear in design and one of his chromas makes him resemble that character even more (Don't quote me on that though i've never played guilty gear)
@@mithias1 doesn't the name "Soul Fighter", the new mode and the metagame answer enough?
@@kermit4036 it's prolly sol badguy one of the main characters on Gg
@@mithias1 I mean, Amaterasu IS in Marval vs Capcom 3 so......
“adding more and more we had to make it an ultimate”
where were the additions? 😭
typical riot gaslighting
This look fits in well with the current Season of Disappointment.
feels like im watching a youtuber with 500k and more subs, keep up you're doing great
Didn't even realize he only has 227 subs till i started scrolling thru comments and saw yours. That's some high quality video.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the real problem here is the Riot marketing team (or whatever team decides the pricing of things). I had heard talk that Samira started out Legendary, but they kept adding more bits to it (the counter, the pentakill, the ult getting more flashy) and they "decided to make it Ultimate".
I feel like this is another case like the TFT Baron tactician where the dev team got really into something and had fun knowing people would like it as is, but then some asshat in marketing/pricing that was in charge of deciding how much things cost went "Wait, we can milk this more" and set the price to a stupid point.
I have Udyr, Sona, and Miss Fortune's ultimate skins and they are all cool in their own way. Samira's skin not only recycles features that other skins have like Empyrean Pyke and Winterblessed Diana, it doesn't have anything emulating an ultimate skin.
The problem with this skin is because Samira herself is super clean when you look at her base model and her skins are well made too so it was impossible to label it ultimate. Would've been nice if we had a new skin tier and she would fit in that tier perfectly
Another thing with Samira being a charity skin is that you wouldn't be able to get her from lootboxes/rerolls until like a month or two after, much like the previous charity skins. But even then, the previous skins were all just regular epic skins rather than an Ultimate.
But it does actually put the discussion of wanting a lower price at a default negative since they can just reply "What? You want to give less money to charity?"
You got me wondering, are charity skins refundable in case people don't like them ? Or not cuz wouldn't it be considered taking away from charity after you donated ? idk hahaha
"You want to give less to a charity???"
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that charities can be excuses for dumbing down standards. No one buys a $50k car at $200k for charity. No one should pay for a $13.5 skin at $25 "for charity."
@@greschenglin-dz7wj I was just asking not that I want it refunded or anything I think the skin is cool but generally curious what would happen to the 20% donated. Do they give it back from there own money or back from charity
@@silverslash3616 That's a good question.
$5 goes to the charity per purchase; as an estimate for just the skin; so the rest should be paid off them. Now as for whether or not that's the case or it comes out of the host's pocket; Riot, the one that actually owns the skin; legally iunno.
they're a billion dollar company, it wouldn't be a problem to lower the skin price and just have them throw in the missing 5 bucks if they really cared about charity, they care as much about charity as they care about their players, this is just a shitty pr stunt
lately the Ultimate skins are not what they used to be and that is what makes people upset because when you saw a player with Elementalist Lux your reaction was wow that skin is amazing its effects were smooth and clean and it changed what lux felt like
but when you look at gun goddess missfortune it doesn't feel much different to other missfortune Skin
KDA seraphine is not only undeserved because it was her release skin and it's not even an ultimate or a legendary skin at that it's just 3 epic skins packaged as one skin
and here at Samira yes the Skin looks cool amazing and awesome but it's not that different enough to validate a Legendary skin price tag for example look at a Legendary Skin like Dark cosmic Jhin
it has unique AA animation walking animations a new Model New effects new death animation as well as 4 different walking animations and that is just a legendary skin and an old one at that and I didn't even mention what makes that skin unique
Look at odyssey kayn it makes Kayn Feels grander than usual it changes the entire character of Kayn and Rhaast while still keeping the magic that makes Kayn and Rhaast compelling and it's a Legendary skin
Riot has proven that all the Skin criteria are improving in quality except for the mythics and Ultimate skins because lets be real ashen Knight pyke is not as good as project or emperyean
dreadnova darius isn't as good as Dunk master which is old as hell or god king
I mean, they are making more and more skins compared to the older seasons. So I guess they are going for quantity instead of quality, which is a dumb move. Really lowers the desire to purchase skins. I mean the only reason newer skins are better looking than the older ones are mainly because the new champs are made modern while some older champs still are using ancient models, so like when a VGU comes out, I get new champ and new skins.
Lux is definitely the best ultimate and nothing that came before or come after will surpass it. It was so good I had to buy it on release even though I didnt play Lux that much then
Mythic skins are just Epics with artificial rarity, let's be fair. Nobody is expecting them to be legendaries or ultimates.
@@Jay9966 quantity over quality would be fine for epic skins but not ultimate
Im dissipointed that they gave samira an ult skin based off fighting games/guilty gear but didn't give her a devil trigger or dragon install transformation
Guys I think we finally found something worse than the 2023 cinematic.
SF Samira
Oh no don’t remind me of that cinematic. I had completely forgot it existed 😫
Bruh at least the skin have effort put into it, you cannot convince me anything Riot has done is worse than the 2023 cinematic
@@tenderandmoist5011atleast you don't need to pay 30€ to see that disaster of cinematic
@@sedarium5307while true I don't even think Riot spent $30 to make the damn thing
this comment right here
What it comes down to is, they donate 20% of the sales to charity, so ofc Riot can't actually pay any of that themselves, so they calla Legendary skin an Ultimate and make the players pay the difference.
Oh ok.
Make Viego's the charity skin then. Chroma included.
Is Soul Fighter Samira Worth $25? no
Disclaimer: This is mostly addressed to the folks who complained about Soul Fighter Samira.
Ah yes, let's forget about how Udyr and Ezreal both have an ultimate skin that are worse than Samira yet not criticized. If you want to hate, at least be consistent. Nitpicking one thing just shows what kind of person you are instead of acknowledging other examples.
Feel free to disagree with me, but provide actual arguments that make sense.
Ah yes, let's forget about the folks who complained about sera ultimate being a glorified epic skin bundle, I don't know if that was also nitpicking.
To be fair, reworked SG Udyr was well received. It also gave you upgraded forms when you maxed out skills which was a good move for a champion whose kit revolves around changing forms. But Ezreal...can't deny it's ugly and cluncky af. Most people think so too, I think you overlooked it because of SF Samira issue.
@@OCandD Well every single argument brought up regarding the Samira skin had NOT A SINGLE mention of the other ultimate skins, as if Samira was the stand alone problem. I hope you realize my point was that if you want to hate, be consistent. Don't hate one particular thing and turn a blind eye to something else thats directly related like the Ezreal ultimate skin. But I'm not going to randomly assume that most people hate the ultimate Ezreal skin when there's not much statistical evidence behind that statement. SG Udyr is definitely decent but I find Samira much more visually upgraded in terms of abilities and effects in comparison. Seraphina ultimate skin complaints were mostly due to the prices, since it was much more expensive if I remembered correctly. The majority of the complaints regarding Samira was about visuals and how it meets the "ultimate skin standard".
Basically you really missed my point and gave a very shallow argument. You basically just: Gave an unrelated example, gave an opinion, and then made a statement without proof (which is an opinion basically). I suggest you don't reply since you will probably embarrass yourself. Like do you secretly enjoy people ripping your weak arguments apart?
@@blitzwolfer4154 Well it’s almost as if people know what qualities to expect from an ultimate skin without having to refer to other ultimates to point out what’s wrong. You complain about consistency and when I give you examples of people criticizing past ultimates it’s unrelated. (Um, okay?) I didn’t realize consistency was about mentioning past issues that have no meaningful contribution to the current one. I didn’t even get to mention the GGMF issue. I kind of dug my own grave with the Ezreal claim, I’ll give you that. So, you find Samira’s skin is better than Udyr’s? (Gosh is that an opinion in the middle of an argument? How vile!) It’s on me for expecting a decent argument from a random person on the internet. But hey, if you’re one of those people who secretly enjoy feeling superior to others, then I could care less. So, don’t bother mentioning me.
@@OCandD Alright so you know its ironic coming from you right? All I did was respond to every point you made. So responding to opinion, with an opinion, gasp, is surprising? If you actually provided meaningful argumentation then there’s no reason to dissect why your original reply was bad, but the reply to my reply just makes it easier.
First of all, people expecting quality from ultimate skins is fine, but the haters who hate the visuals itself (i.e. Samira having same auto attack animation, same spell animations, etc) are the thing I’m pointing out. They should notice the fact its not irregular for the ultimate skins to reuse animations.
In regards to the consistency, again, it feels like you don’t understand the word. Definition: Application of something, typically that which is necessary for the sake of logic, accuracy or fairness. So tell me, is it logical or accurate to bring up an example that is about pricing when my original point was about visuals?
Also, I’m confused how you came to the conclusion that you think I have a problem with opinions in an argument. I call your arguments shallow because it didn’t add any thing of value or actual backed up rebuttals. Having opinions is not a problem in itself in an argument. I literally never said nor implied that.
Finally, at this point you should be able to tell your two previous replies have a lot of problems. Its not even about superiority or whatever. Like clearly you have enough self-awareness to acknowledge you fucked up in some parts of your replies like the Ezreal claim. You should be smart enough to realize some of the shit you wrote makes no sense in terms of relevancy and logic. If you want to have the last word because of pride or something, you can have it. I will admit I made some mistakes with some parts of what I previously wrote. But here’s my final regards to you, mano a mano. Do you agree with this: Should people only hate SF Samira or should they also equally hate the other ultimate skins for the same reasons.
I think this mostly concludes this thread. Whether you hate me or whatever, thats up to you. I just wanted to point out inconsistent hate which has become widespread in social media. Like why hate this specific thing and not others that are the same.
Short answer: No
Longer answer: Hell No!
As a Samira Main, Riot could definitely have improved the overall vfx and animations. An example would be her R; why not make it where it progresses towards a newer animation such as her ultimate in the Soul Fighters tournament event? (The 2d style button mash game) The final R level could be where Samira slashes and shoots individual targets on where they stand. Or make it where she doesn't reload her gun at all, considering one of her lines is that the benefit of being a soul fighter, you wouldn't have to reload at all 🤔
Riot's Soul Fighter event had some great ideas of what Samira's moves could have been changed into, yet it felt like those ideas were neglected.
P.S love the tower and baron effects idea after being destroyed/killed
the ultimate does progress with points put into it...
dont forget her weapons a alive so would be even better to make an animation where they reload by themself or not at all
@alexanderson2558 I should have clarified the Soul Fighters event idea. The fighter event where you progress in defeating other bosses (Pyke, Gwen, etc.) until you get to 2nd phase Viego. I see her ultimate does have a progression, but it's just added pngs on a rotating png, in which, is already seen on other Samira skins already.
My idea was that the ultimate vfx should be like the one in the Soul Fighters event, a.k.a, the boss fighting event. (Sorry for the confusion)
@carizmo2805 Exactly! Like said, there are many ideas that could have been put into the ultimate skin, but Riot just flopped and messed this one up.
IMO they put the skin under charity to hopefully inflate the sales they got of this skin so they can say in the future that actually the reddit thread is just a small fraction of the playerbase and that actual players like the skin ( they have done this before)
Would've have definitely bought it if it was listed as a legendary because it is a really cool skin. But calling it a ultimate skin is not justified in my opinion.
I think there's some information about the skin left out. She *does* transform her abilities throughout the game, like the Ezreal skin. Her R looks different depending on the points put into it. It gets way cooler with each point, so in that regard it does transform. Her Q is obviously very different, but she also does have quite a few move animations that are different, especially after using Q or moving from stand she sometimes does a summersault. the text for damage and all the HUD stuff was mentioned, but I think it's cooler than it seems, her ult even tracks the number of bullets she lands during the cast.
I think an important distinction is that this is Samira we're talking about. If they gave a penta effect and cool ultimate ability effect to Yuumi... who cares, you're never gonna see that penta effect. With Samira... you see the ult potentially multiple times per fight AND you see the penta effect way more often than any other champ. I personally think the skin does reach ultimate rarity dues to these considerations, and that this video comes up short with describing the real beauty of the skin.
Also, there are so many comments saying the Viego skin is more ultimate.... that's just untrue and y'all know it. If Viego's skin were labelled ultimate the uproar would be WAY more. it's a great legendary skin, but it doesnt do anything an ultimate skin should. I do wish that samira's skin had more unique voice lines like his, but I can accept that amazing visuals as compensation.
Virgo has new animations and a completely new model + a second model for isolde. Samir’s literally doesn’t have new animations
@@abhipatil6409 It literally does have new animations. Tons. Q animation is amazing. Movement after some abilities like Q is different. Did you even watch the spotlight of the skin? also it is a new model? It's as if people are just complaining just because other people are without actually looking at the skin for more than 5 seconds.
@@alexanderson2558 lol someone hasn’t seen the side by side (you). Keep coping man.
@@abhipatil6409 Oh also hold this L: "Soul Fighter Samira vs High Noon Samira Skins Comparison (League of Legends)"
@@alexanderson2558 notice how literally nobody cares or agrees with you? You aren’t smart. The animations are the same as base Samira. Copeeeeeer
would love a jinx skin on this series but oh well
Now every time I see comments "I love that Riot listens to the community", I just smirk and chuckle.
"for 25$ it's not something to just brush off in video games especially when the game itself is free"
And then Blizzard joined the chat
This is a Legendary through and through, its actually in a lot of ways a little worse than a legendary (hell compare it to Viego's new Legendary)
Short Voice Over
Bad consistancy with skin (She reloads living guns that she SAYS dont need to be reloaded)
No model changes
Exact same animations
Horribly clunkly looking ultimate animation
No new features at all (Kaisa counts kills, Mecha Jax has a taunt with a kill counter, and pentakill animations have been a thing for a long time)
There are simply no exclusive features, and whats worse EVERY ultimate skin has INCLUDED additional things Primarily Icons/borders. In order to get Samira's Icon/Border you have to pay ANOTHER 550 RP.
This is simply riot's greed getting out of hand and a massive decline in quality. Im a samira main and a huge fan of hers and I am not buying the skin unless it goes to 1820 (not even 2750 or 2250).
the thing is if samria skin is a success , it wil simply drop the quaility on all legendary skins and epic. like some epics are worse than other the bar is already being dropped , the line between epic and standard is getting blured every time, legendary skins also have blured line, but ultmates they trying to drop the bar so low they make legendary skins and milk them for double the price because they think we are smucks.
This is just straight up untrue. It has new animations, both movement and on abilities (especially the Q). Sometimes summersaults that dont appear with base movements. The ultimate upgrades its animation as you level it. It becomes sick by 3 points. It has new features. between the HUD and new text for damage it's nice, but it ALSO counts the bullets she lands during her ult, glowing rainbow if she lands enough. that combined with the counting and taunt kill counter gives a lot of "cool factor" to the skin. Also no model changes? dude... Calling this skin worse than legendary skins just shows that you didn't bother evaluating all of the features of the skin for yourself first, you just jumped on the Riot hating bandwagon because you heard others complaining with arguments that are just straight up false.
The last actual ultimate skin we had was GGMF with Battle Queen Kat being almost close enough. In order for anything to be "Ultimate" tier you gotta be able to change models in game. Seraphine doesn't count, that shits just three skins in one.
Who says?
Feels great that i got it for free
0:11 neeko song
this skin is in no way, shape, or form an ultimate skin. they will still release it and call it ultimate ignoring the community as they usually do, but they should rework it separately and release an updated version later on that is actually an ultimate.
they should add that legendary+ objective mechanic, make it “souls” she absorbs and change her form depending on the amount of objectives taken; 5/10/15. boom! new mechanic that qualifies her for ultimate tier.
we know they won’t do anything though… just like how they butchered the seraphine epic bundle. an “ultimate” skin called K/DA and instead of having her form change based on her KDA, you’re forced to pick a mediocre epic feeling skin before the game starts. 😵💫
@@edwardlouiscaceres6781 Of course they won't do anything, the skin is already made, they sure as fuck ain't gonna spend more time and resources into making it worthwhile.
Samira Soul Fighter has Penta Animation, maybe for this she is ultimate.
Pyke and Diana legendaries also have this
There's a lot of people who don't understand why people are mad around the release of this skin. It's not about it not being cool-looking or satisfying to play, it's about Riot continuing to disappoint and lower their own standards with everything they do. It's about them ignoring constructive and just criticisim and instead of addressing it, acting like they don't see it. I'm honestly appalled that people bought it when it is nowhere near the standard of other Ultimate skins. I bought Elementalist Lux a month ago and immediately got Ezreal's after that from a box. I've been having so much fun with both of them, although I should say I believe Ezreal's should also be lowered cause it's even less impressive than Miss Fortune's. At least with MF you can change your form at will lol
good video, got more value than expected from clicking on the tb
I wouldnt say its worth 3250,
it has the same thing on pentakills as Winterblessed Diana and Empyrian Pyke, its just a legendary skin with custom damage fonts,
If I were to design the skin I wouldve made something to the skin tied to her R, or her passive, like every kill with R to change her VFX Colours, or whenever she kills someone at S Rank on her passive, Battle Queen Katarina changes Daggers whenever she gets 3 takedowns until she gets the last one at 15 takedowns
I would like to add that all ultimate skins came with different icons that gave a special background on your profile meanwhile Samira got nothing
dude in turkey that skin costs 230 turkish lira
260.
missed opportunity to do a DP or EWGF animation for melee crits
Should have gave her a cat like devil trigger form which activates with ult and you could make it a timer where as long as she keeps killing she keeps the form..
i mean if they announced it was a legendary i dont think people would have complained ye maybe a few comments about howit doesnt have new animations on basic attacks and movement but otherwise i feel like everyone would have loved it
Even Legendaries change the AA/abilities animations. This is an Epic skin with Legendary/Ultimate gimmicks. Legendary gimmicks are on here taunt/dance/recall which most Epic skin doesnt have (they just used the default dance/taunt animations and change it up a lil bit) + the Pentakill global animations which was introduced on Pyke's/Diana's skin. And her Ultimate gimmicks are the damage font, which i must say is incredibly cool and unique, but can't be justified if that's her only Ultimate quality. I don't think League needs another skin where Riot literally said it would significantly slow the game down like Lux's cause there were too much data on her skin, but at least lower the price or something
It would make so much sense if the skin was originally a legendary skin but changed to an ultimate last second maybe viego was originally the ultimate skin and he had someway to transform into that form he had
Like literally if viego had a transformation it would just be an ultimate skin at that point
I think the problem is that the 1350 - 1820 skins weren't that good back in the day so the ultimate ones really popped making them look more special than they actually were. Nowadays the quality overall of the 1350 skins has increased so drastically that you will see people complain frequently about the 1820 and ultimate skins thinking they got robbed or whatever. Personally I wouldn't pay 25$ for this skin, or any league skin really. But If you like it go for it, in reality you are paying 20$ for the skin and 5$ for a charity since 20% of the skin proceeds will be donated.
Even if you said that, the legendaries still are a bit above the epic tier list (just with the get go of having all new movements animations) but Samira's skin... She has the animation of reloading her gun, and, a voice line that goes something like "the best part of having a soul weapon? No reloading." Like, yeah, the epic skins are better than before but that's no excuse for the price that Samira has right now
1350 skins increased drastically, so why not increase the Ultimate skin's quality as well? or at least, keep its quality as an Ultimate skin? But no, they'd rather make a legendary skin, add few tweaks, use it for charity and bam, you've got yourself a scam skin.
Lux's ultimate skin is the pinnacle of skins. It has everything you want in a skin and it came out in 2016. It has been 7 years and riot has yet to come close to making another skin as nice as that one. Now they are dropping skins that are on the same tier as the lux skin for the same price with far less features. This skin should have been a legendary and they should spend time trying to make an ultimate that is on the same tier as lux's.
Also that seraphine skin came with the border and samira's skin you have to buy the border
Firstly I’d say no it’s not worth it, however there is a lot of cool stuff packed into it. The damage text fonts are really cool, and I like the kill effects. Also the ultimate effects are really nice, especially since they change as you level up. Not saying this skin is worth 3250, but it’s more than a legendary
7:40 Wait what, the Skin is for Charity?
What Charity I hear this for the first time, and a friend of mine owns the SKin O.o
katarina's legendary skin is more ultimate than samira's ultimate or ezreal's
Epic skins do not come with new animations in general, with exception to recall animation and some unique skins. Only a handful of them change a couple of animations beyond the recall one.
tbh i dont care if its worth it or not, i love the skin and i love samira. so im gonna buy it
The ultimate centrist
25 currency? bro we have to pay 260 currency to buy this skin in turkey
You dont always need to change forms in an ultimate the pentakill animation and the damage number on minions is already something. If they made the animations different and the ult evolving a bit more special i would agree with 25 dollers for this skin.
Missing Form Change and Animations...
Yeah, you are right. It really seems like a Legendary Skin. But hey, many people bought it anyway, so Riot will do it again.
They don't care if we complain, as long if we buy the stuff. If you really want to complain, don't buy the Skin, this is the only thing that CAN help in the long run.
I was surprised it was an Ultimate skin at all
Thought it was a Legendary initially
I own gun goddess miss fortune and honestly, this skin is better imo. like yeah I guess you have 4 skins but I only really ever use one or maybe 2 of them. when it comes to looks and feel soul fighter samira feels like it's on another level to me. but idk, sometimes I might be a little too biased to riot.
Man, I got this shit out of a loot box and I don't even ADC. My son was flippin the hell out. He's an ADC main. loool
honestly they need to update their code at this point so they could deliver stuff like elementalist lux without the excuse of "the game cannot handle it" because elementalist lux actually loads 10 skins instead of 1. a game this popular should not be running on outdated code
I think a skin with to much animations makes you slower. And this is why i like this samira skin.
I always think that Battle Queen Katarina was probably planned to be an Ultimate skin, but it was downgraded to legendary, so riot could force Seraphine "Ultimate". And the fact that apparently there is already a code within the skin for Katarina to change forms... just makes everything worse. :(
It's still weird how she didn't get a legendary High noon (a skinline that suited her like no others) and now she gets an ultimate with animations that don't feel different. The QUALITY has really gone down with so many skins being released. Still good job to the riot team for trying their best.
They do feel different, more bouncy, flashy, flamier and fluid
PYKE HAD THE PENTA THING BEFORE DIANA TF???
someting they can addrers for samia its like giving her a diferent weapon depending of how many characters of the class o possision you kill, like making her tros spels or spritus hits hwhen shi killls jg or a shield for top or tnaks etc
Considering that Jhin's, Morde, Pyke (both) legendary skins are in every single way better this Samira's skin I think it shouldn't be a ULTIMATE but a legendary
But they aren’t
in my country this samira skin is 125R$
It's not end of story but it could be a 1350 or 975 rp skin
Tresh at the budget xD. Since Winterblessed released, imo it’s the best skin in the game, especially that it’s a legendary and beats ultimates
I wanted to get the event pass and, stupidly, assumed that the Samira skin was part of the bundle. So I thought, why not? But no, my dumbass ended up buying the skin bundle for Samira and I can't refund it. So I'm now down £30 and all I have for it is Riot's joke of an ultimate skin. I wouldn't be mad if the ultimate skin was an ultimate skin, with different forms, new animations, new voicelines etc but this was just scraping the barrel. Viego should've been the ultimate skin, he literally has more content in his skin than Samira's. Riot are living on a different planet.
While i disagree with you about the skin being worth the price, i cant help but sub due to your approach and attitude.
Imma be honest, no skin will ever be worth that to me so good luck meeting the expectations and standards
It’s so bizzare to me that this is an ultimate but winterblessed diana isnt. It should just be a legendary.
dianas winterblessed skin is def not ultimate worthy either
if this skin was still ultimate but it cost 10€ (12$), would yall buy it?
This is a must by as a Legendary skin but a HARD pass as an ultimate skin. If we buy this Ultimate skins we teach riot that this quality is good enough for an ultimate skin.
Bro really showed Mythmaker Irelia as a legendary 💀
wow league players think soul fighter samira is a ripoff but overwatch players would think this was the best skin in game at a great value
Playing a Legendary for a tank feels more impactful than whatever this thing is. This is the S13 "cinematic" as a skin. I'd probably just get it in a chest and then refund it for essence.
i think riot doesn't have any good ideas about samira but already promised skin so they just released this and just don't give a single $hit about players
Irelia's legendary and samira's ultimate skins have been very disappointing because they dont change the champions base animations, both champions are already so fluid that the only thing they do is paste the skin over them and change the iddle animation leaving everything else untouched
its insane with 30 mins you can probably find 10 legendary skins with more effort put into them than this skin.
Holy shiet... In argentina costs $60
Bro you haven't seen the prices on Wild rift Prestige skins. They're so expensive like 100€ to get.
Is it possible they will change the price after the charity ends
When battle academia ezreal has more transfirmation than ultimate samira lmao
To be fair, no other Ultimate skin is put under another skin line. Little goofy that Samira’s is.
Yes it is so worth
Seems really like bad faith tho focus on the fact that the skin doesn't offer transformation, when you consider Udyr doesn't have one either really (like those are his abilities it's part of the BASE champion design for Udyr)
Legendary + would be a ripoff honestly.
Like Pyke and Diana both have that special rift changing animation for like few secs but only if they get penta which is pretty rare thing to happen so if they are gonna charge Legendary skin another 5$ just for some rare animation that you might not see in a 100 games is just not worth it and a ripoff.
Like this when a normal Legy skin gets some good reference like Viegos torture dance or Mordekaiser destroying the turret it just makes legy a bit more special but 100% not worth 5$ more.
I think this skin gets more hate than it deserves. Yes, it is not as spectacular as people expected and it doesn't come with free icon, but it is far better than Spirit Guard Udyr or Pulsefire Ezreal. The skin doesn't change forms, but let's be honest, this feature has been overused as fuck. I'm personally way more satisfied with the custom font and style meter design.
its only worth it if you want it.simple as that. i love the skin so its worth it to me
25$ nah my friend now is around 50$ thanks inflation 😢
I would argue Mythics are more valuable than Ultimates. They cost a lot more and take an insane amount of time to get for free.
No.
Past Ultimates; Sera's included; set and maintained the standard of having essential form changes and animations that mostly differ enough from their primaries. Samira's don't.
You can bring up legendaries changing interactions with the stage, some of the huds, etc., well a new peak has been set by legends for legends. SF Sam is priced as an ultimate. If ya wanna have that pricing, you drop to 2250rp, cuz you're not doing what GGMF is doing either.
Its proceeds going to a "charity" is an insult to the charity itself, cuz something that newer legendaries have been doing lately is an excuse to dumb down the standard for ultimates instead of *showing* us just how much you want the charity to succeed by pulling out the big guns, like gaining new forms per multikill with the option to swap between them with different animations per the weapons used per form:
Motorcycle, briefcase, hat, etc. She was released like him she might as well finally *be* him in this skin.
But no, apparently the charity isn't even worth a real ultimate skin; never mind a legendary one since ults don't get chromas....which legendaries do. Heck, ONLY the SF Sam skin and the accompanying bundles are going towards the charity. NONE OF THE OTHER SKINS WITH THEIR CHROMAS OR BY THEMSELVES ARE COUNTED.
So no. It's not worth it. And dare I even say that the whole "charity" is a sham so riot execs can pocket more coin before its time to trash the company entirely.
this is a epic skin.
Seraphine one was also a scam, 3 legendary skins bundle in a ultimate format
My theory is that they set the price high so they wouldn't lose so much money because of charity. XD
no is the answer, u dont need to thank
Compare it to any other game I'd say its worth it. Overwatch would sell you a $20 "Legendary" skin thats just a color palette swap. But honestly I dont think it belongs to the ultimate skins just because it can't transform.
My issue with Sampras skin is that it brings nothing new, everything it has has been featured in prior legendary skins.
The point of Ultimate skins is to bring something new and immersive to the rift- Sampras skin doesn’t achieve this therefore it’s a failed skin.
New fonts? Unit killing animation, a hud that is actually helpfull?
@@guillermoduncan2060 in my opinion that isn’t enough to warrant the price.
I wonder why the recharge isn't just a fun animation where the gun ate a soul or something, literally anything but reloading it, since it's not supposed to do that. I feel that as a concept it gives you so many ideas, It makes no sense they settled for that. Why not releasing it just as a legendary? Why pushing the ultimate at all costs?
Because people will still buy it