Why EVE Online’s Small but Mighty Fanbase is Worth the Challenge
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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We dive deeper into the unique world of EVE Online, a game renowned for its small yet fiercely dedicated fanbase. We'll explore the initial challenges new players face and how these hurdles can turn into a deep, passionate love for the game. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or a curious newcomer, discover what makes this space epic truly special!
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EVE is sociopathic free market capitalism in space, and I love it. Been playing 18 years now with no plans to stop.
Haha good description.
It's been out for 18 years?
@@CharlesVanexX 21 years.
I started playing EVE Online a few months after launch when i was in middle school. I still play to this day. I learned more from EVE than i ever have in school.
Playing EVE made me want to learn math, Other languages, etc... and i contribute a lot of my success irl to the opportunity to get to play it.
For real! EVE really does make a person want to learn. Take a note schools.
seeing adverts the graphics hooked me, the fiction and lore hypnotized me, the friends met just made me build my home and feel cozy
Graphics got me through the gate as well.
The lore definitely is a big draw for this game. Can put up with a lot just to feel like part of that world. It is all those pesky other players that keep it down.
The way you find joy in mining, is getting set up somewhere, targeting the rock, starting the module, and then doing something else. Talking with friends, playing another game, reading a book, whacking, whatever. You're getting isk while you do it, and that's the joy.
Unless you like mining gas in lowsec, then it's more about keeping on alert and looking out for people trying to kill you while you rake in that sweet sweet money.
Started playing EvE Online in 2008 and still playing it a lot. This game is amazing, a 1 of a kind, there's no other game like EvE Online. Amazing community, spaceships you can fit the way you like, so many things to do like exploring, mining, industry (manyfacturing), pve combat, pvp combat. You can do all this in space with different rules like wormhole space, triglavian space ( Pochven), high security, low security and null security space. So many different types of ships for different roles.This is just a few things. Too much to mention. And let's not forget the huge battles !!! EvE Online forever !!!
You really can do anything. The game can be as exciting or as chill as you want. You're also allowed to fail. The game doesn't hold your hand.
I’ve been playing since 2014. Don’t remember what initially brought me in, probably one of the epic trailers. What keeps me is, and this might seem weird to new players and even some old ones, but the depth of the pvp in this game. Yes, you can just click approach or orbit and F1 to kill someone, but it goes way deeper than that. Taking on a full fleet in 3-4 nano ships, you have very in depth pvp. Clicking in space to fly your ship to max your transversal on the fleet, while minimizing their transversal so your guns apply better, while positioning yourself so you can keep a point on the enemy but not close enough for them to scram you. It gets very hard, but so rewarding when you kill half of a 50 man fleet with just a few people. Another reason I stay playing is, of course, the friends I’ve met along the way.
I've been finding that with PVP. As much or more of a fight happens before you even undock.
Started in 2013 with some friends after one suggested it. Playing today because of the new friends I've made along the way. There's always something to do in the game. There is no "end", it just keeps going and changing based on goals and other players. Expansions help, too.
I find that some MMO's can become "solved" really quick while I don't think EVE could ever be.
EVE is not for everyone. It is however the greatest game I have ever played and I have been playing games since Atari.
Mass attraction doesn't make something the best, it just makes it popular. EVE is perfect for the right people.
@@bucklinfondue While I totally agree... I always wonder what space would look like if eve had wow's numbers :)
Great video! I just got into Eve about a month ago also and don’t find a lot of new videos about players impressions. (Also, mining starts getting good in wormholes when you can bring in millions more per trip)
You're actually the third person to say that! I may have to give it a go
Relatively new player here.. I love mining myself. After I get done with a dungeon crawl. There is something relaxing about going out to an asteroid and mining it for all it worth. Don't know. I am getting to the point of wanting to join a corporation. But still doing missions and have outfitted my first frigate. It still needs some things before I undock and take it for a spin around the star system. Though I still love my venture .As It has proven to be a good work horse for now.. I love that nothing is really given to you. That you must work for it and earn it as you both progress in skills and do the missions. With nothing being a guarantee that the moment you undock till you dock back up. That any point in time you can be blown out of the sky. Though I know in Highsec that chances are rather low of that happening. But the NPC's ships can, if you are not attentive, will blow your ship up.
I have sadly lost a few ships already to some NPC ships. But, EVE does offer high intensity gameplay or if you want it, some relaxing gameplay as well.
@@bucklinfondue I haven't really done the enforcer or the solder of fortune missions. I have started to do the explorer missions. Not sure just how it all works at the moment. Going out and shooting things up is not a real interest to me at the moment. I play another game that I get all the fighting I need. But the frigate is my effort to building up to that. I want to be effective with more than little civilian gatling gun.
I started playing eve in 2017 mainly because i saw it went free to play by an advert and i was finally a chance to play it and i would say the variois people that i meet on my journey is what keeps me playing, nowadays i just build stuff and occasipnally go pew pew and also planning big projects keeps me going also :D
Start for the game, stay for the people.
Abselutely a fantastic video, and it was really interesting to see eve from a new players point of view that wasnt just "this game is too confusing bye". I originally started playing when i was 14, and ive always liked space-sims. I really like it because how many options it gives you. When ive talked to people about eve, the most common question is "well what do you do", which is a really difficult question to anwser, because i mostly just want to say "well what do you WANT to do?". Also the sense of community you get after joining a good corp is incredible, and is not smth ive experienced in any other mmorpg (and ive played my fair share), and other then that? idk the game is fun and one of the only games where you consistently can get the shakes
For real! I was actually shaking when I stumbled into my first gate camp and lost a pricey (for me) ship.
As a new player myself, I enjoy being made to go learn what I need to know for certain game loops. It turns the things I do into achievements rather than the game simply handing me stuff. It's far more interesting to be a self-made success than just being "the chosen one" as per many MMORPGs
I started playing in 2007, while discovering an interest in various sorts of virtual worlds. Since then I have explored many different types, but the ones I find most interesting and enjoyable are the ones that allow the most freedom to create your own experience and are primarily a platform for people/players to drive the world rather than preprogrammed experiences that you can’t change and can’t leave. Eve has that, to a large degree. I’ve played off and on ever since.
There is no ESCAPING EVE! haha
What brought me to EVE, was a former co-worker, he mentioned the game briefly, I took a look into what it's like. At that time I wasn't interested in MMO's as they inherently require interaction other people, and I had seen and heard my fair share of random people, especially kids doing the most cringe things and just insufferable behavior from random people
Okay, this universe does seem interesting though, so I'll give it a shot. This was back during the Quantum Rise, some months before Apocrypha. I took the free trial period and after getting to know the game a bit, joined the corp my friend was in.
It was basically a noob teaching oriented corp that had some more experienced guys as well, and overall a very laid back and easygoing vibe. Loved it. So I went all in and took part in a lot of corp stuff and eventually they wanted me to join the management, a lot of stuff happened and at one point ended up being the CEO of the nullsec / pvp wing of the alliance that was formed out of splitting the former singular academy corp.
Spent some time in Providence while it was still under CVA rule, but then eventually got evicted by the russians because of some stupid decisions made by CVA leadership, and I think I did end up with a burn out at the end as it was hard to keep the corp together after we got kicked out of null, and as most of the old vets either dropped out or went elsewhere, like the unofficial faction warfare corp of the alliance (as at the time the game didn't allow a corp to be in FW without the entire alliance joining up too) and our alliance executor being rarely available, I was stuck pretty much alone with the relatively new guys.
I felt like I wanted to try to keep the corp going, and we did try out things but they didn't really work out, I wanted to step down but I didn't really have anyone willing or able to replace me at the end and then add some IRL things, I ended up with a burn out and had to take a long break.
I have come back many times after that, ended up joining a nullsec corp that a lot of the former academy retirees went to as part of the goons / TEST bloc, but during and after that real life just took over every time I've tried to come back and eventually I lose the momentum and the break usually extends far beyond the planned duration, and it hasn't quite been the same since the first corp and alliance fell apart, and I don't have time quite the same way that I used to.
Yet I still pop back every now and then to fly the spreadsheets, even if just for a little while.
Its amazing man honestly.
I started playing just because I was searching for a spaceships game, but when I experienced all the things that the game offered me, I just fell in love with it.
From time to time I just quit the game (my longest time was 1 hole year) but I always keep wanting to come back, going to mine again with friends, exploring wormholes, getting killed at pvp because I'm bad xD, I've made so many stories in eve that I love, and I will keep making more
Great video, couldn't say it better myself! I got into eve over 10 years ago after seeing some RUclips videos on it, before that I played the x series, x3 most and it helped with the learning curve of eve because it has the same real economic systems and permanent loss, x games were singleplayer though. Still play x to this day, now the new x4 foundations :)
I've apparently been living under a rock. I just googled that game and it looks awesome!
@@bucklinfondue if you play x4, record your first time playing and make a first impressions/review I'd love to see it!
Honestly it is an amazing game. It is more the community and friends you make more than anything else.
EVE has one of the most tight knit communities I have seen.
Started playing EVE back when Titans were first introduced. Tried going hard into high-sec trade routes. Upgraded to a Badger Mark II (these days it's called a Tayra), got ganked and bounced off the game hard.
But I learned a lot during that time. I'm back playing as an Alpha (for now) and learning more about the game's mechanics and about weighing risk / reward scenarios.
I'm trying not to pigeon hole myself too hard into a single thing. I really want to dabble in everything at first.
I only recently started playing EvE myself. It's one of those games that has always been on the periphery of my awareness via ads or articles that have popped up around it.
Thus far I enjoy the sandbox nature of it. The game doesn't baby me or push me to follow a pre-determined path. If I want to do something I need to learn how to do it, then do it right or be penalised accordingly. That makes anything I do and earn in game feel like an achievement.
Day 1 I jumped into wormhole space to explore and went to a relic site only to be 1 shot by a sleeper NPC. Day 2, after doing significantly more research, I went back and made 26million on a single relic site. Now I can spend days in wormhole space, dodging (or occasionally dying to) players who want my loot. It's satisfying.
My only concern is how long it will be sustainable and interesting to play with an alpha clone. Some of the coolest looking ships and skills definitely require Omega clones.
You've got me beat. I've dipped into wormhole a bit but haven't really gotten the hang of what's what.
@@bucklinfondue what game loops are you playing?
@@splurg123 scanning, missions, and combat sites right now.
Funny enough, it's the mining for me. But also there is so much more and you only just touched on it. Been playing since 2014 on and off. (I do tend to get a bit heavily involved and start to burn out) but I keep going back because of the interactions good and bad.
This could easily turn into a wall of text.
Thank you for the video, great work.
I stopped playing Eve in like August of 2016. At the time my toon was like 3-5 years old. I had originally quit due to lack of interest and time. I was sitting at my PC a couple of weeks ago trying to figure out what to play to scratch the gaming itch I was having. I was tired of arena based PVP combat in Halo, Battlefield, and Battlefront II. So, I decided to install the game. Sent a good buddy of mine whom I met because of Eve a screenshot of the download saying can't believe I'm doing this, but here we go again! After the game downloaded, I logged in to all my accounts, got a feel for the interface and controls again since it had been 8 years since I last played. Then I resubbed for 3 months same day. A couple of days later my buddy got his accounts sorted with his new e-mail address and he's back in as well.
I play because there is nothing like Eve. There are no replacements for it. No matter what you do, you're a part of something. Mining, you're procuring resources to be built or sold to be built into something. Run PVE missions but be mindful of anyone watching you. They may want your ship and what's inside of it. If PVP isn't your thing work on your trading skills and commit to market warfare.
Ha, I'm glad you pulled your buddy in. But there really is something for everyone in the game.
Good video. I am also kind of new to EvE. The game is very hard to get into (I bumped off of it a few times), but now it clicked. The game is damn amazing and easily misunderstood if you don't put enough time into it.
Very nice video. Earned a sub from me. I've been plsying off and on for about 2 years now I think? What I like about eve is the sense of community you can find with the right people. Its what keeps me invested. The pvp also helps keep me invested.
When i was younger i thought EVEs gameplay was slow boring and stupid, i always loved the universe and the idea behind it but i couldn't get past the basic gameplay - However in my older years i actually now appreciate the slower pace of how the game functions....its Star trek rather than Star wars and once you simply accept that you can enjoy yourself.
i'm not a "slow" gamer, i can play quake 3 and give good players a run for their money, but i've been there and done all that....Now that EVE is f2p i'm now exploring a player driven universe.
It's so different from anything else. It's not minute to minute to excitement, it's methodical planning with a burst of excitement.
I've been away from EVE for three years now (started 2011, stopped 2021 a few months after WWB 2 ended and I picked up FF14), but I still consider myself a player, and I know I'll be back at some point.
The way you interact with others in eve is unmatched, and they've been doing a fantastic job of revitalizing the game in the past year or two.
Also, while EVE's age can cause issues with development times, it also means that there's been time enough for lots of people to grow up playing EVE and end up working for CCP, leading to passionate devs who are very involved in the game (shoutout to CCP Aurora who was a huge part of the 2022-2023 turnaround!).
Devs who actually play and have played their game are always very noticeable.
I'm a recent player, and I am sure I will try it at some point but funny enough PVP actually doesn't interest me much. Maybe if I was in a corp or faction warfare. I've been very into this game so far
I haven't done any PvP yet. None that I've sought out anyway. But I'm excited to try.
Welcome to EVE! o7
Thanks! I'm having a blast.
The music brought me into EVE.
The music did that SciFi theme so well.
Im a little old but young on eve online, i play since 2018 but not continue, and since a month i came back, playing even better than before, and one of my objectives is to make a corp to introduce new players one day
Started just because I liked the trailer, currently a Fleet commander and loving to cause trouble with the boys ❤
They make damn good trailers.
2010 here. its real life with spaceships...yolo...no exp grind. you can play with 100s of other people, or be alone in the crowd. you do you. need to have an eye at the back of the head. it is relaxing,... and i can play during work sitting in a belt while attending senseless meetings xD (also,... no screamo kiddies... whats the average eve player age? 38 ?) love it....
The game is entirely what you make it.
EVE is not for everyone, but for those who like it, there is no equal in what it offers.
You earned a sub o7 see you in space
Thanks!
Mining is basicly hanging out with friends, loughing and having a great time while making isk in the background. Atleast in my opinion mining only is fun in a fleet.
Heheehee ... We're never getting all that blood stain out of those stars .... o7 Fly safe.
Saw some dude play it when TDY in 2013, 2020 got a PC during the pandemic and got eve, some dude bumped me off my mining drones and stole them......and now I am a PvP'r lol
Haha that's a good story.
I think the problem is majority of Old players don't want new players, because they have a "ownership" of the space they live in ingame. They don't want competition its clear so the olds will run off the new people.
I hope more players can give EVE a proper go. New players are always healthy. Plus I don't want to be one of the only few newbies lol.
This hasn't been my experience as yet. Sure I've been targetted by older players in low-sec or wormhole space but that's just the game. On the channels and such older players have (mostly) been really helpful. Curious as to how your experience has differed.
This hasn’t been my experience either. Being in a wormhole corp, we are constantly recruiting and even specifically looking for new players to join and and train into our doctrines. The more pilots the better.
@@machinegunpictures you are part of what they are talking about. New players have to join up and work for existing corps or get run out.
In the mines or get out of space lol
@@Michael-bn1oi there is no working “for” involved. Our members do not “work” for us, we work together to accomplish bigger and better things. We teach and show the new guys how stuff is done, the opposite of “running them out”.
Started in 2016 when it first went free to play. Always wanted to try it but ...you know issues...
Since I started playing I have not missed a log in. I love it. (all I do is mine)
I love that I am not some chosen one or the hero to save the universe. I'm just a guy in a ship doing what ever I want at my own rate. No pressure. Never noticed the graphices till recently since I play zoomed out. Just me looking at purple ships on screen. But once I did I finally realised...eve is beatiful. Eve has muisc? I play muted lololollol
Most boring player ever - zoomed out in potato mode - muted and mining 🙄
Oh I am a dirty highsec multyboxer miner. That is what keeps me playing. If I had to play a single char I'd quit.
Eve is the most cut-throat toxic game that has attracted the biggest A-Holes in gaming... The game is designed to force players into corps to survive, but the biggest and most exciting challenge of the game is to succeed in it solo without buying your way through it like I did...
Just one comment from a 15 year player. You are going to need multiple accounts and the ability to play 2 or 3 accounts at the same time. Just how EVE is. If you want to be some one in EVE that is how it is done.
The 50% bots/multiboxers thing is very believable.
The EVE: Revelations trailer is the one that got me hooked. Found the trailer in a gaming magazine i bought around 2008/2009, named Level. (Ironic that it has EVE in its name). It was so epic, the scale and everything. I don't know how many trial accounts i made, but which each expansion, there was a new account :)) Oh, the magazine had a DVD inside whith games, utility software and wallpapers and other sweet stuff. It always felt like a Christmas present, with each purchase. :) Here, for nostalgia: ruclips.net/video/3W_dj9Uxlz8/видео.html
Probably dating myself here, but I remember getting a copy of Rollercoaster Tycoon in one of those old gaming magazines before.
Best MMO ever.
One thing I love about EVE is that there is no storyline other than the missions, but do they really count?
that NEXT thing.
As someone who has played EVE for 14 years at this point im sad to see EVE adopting dark pattern systems like daily login rewards, time gating, pay 2 win, ect.
The one thing I will say, full loot PVP isn't as bad as people think. You have to get rid of the mindset that every MMO has to play like WOW, where you're timegated from getting new equipment and are strictly at the mercy of RNG drop rates to build your character. When a game is designed for you to lose your stuff consistently, its also designed for you to get new stuff consistently as well, where as a game that is designed for you to forever grind a number to be bigger will have to throttle your progression in some way to keep you invested long term, one is a natural cycle of player driven gameplay, the other requires devs to invest time and money into stuff that might ultimately just be recycled content with bigger numbers, aka what WOW is today.
EVE has a full player driven market, newbros can make money just like any vet, as long as they're willing to invest the time in learning and doing the activities that generate wealth.
Also balance in EVE is designed in such a way that being in a frigate or cruiser, the lowest tiers of combat ships, isn't a strict disadvantage. Community has more sway in the success of a PVP encounter than pure stats, and even more so if you and your gang of 10 tech 1 cruisers catch a bling fit tech 3 cruiser, you'll all make tons of money in the process. This is the draw of EVE that most modern MMOs fail to grasp, that no amount of grindy, timegated, vain attempts to keep players subbed longterm with pure system design can compare to an MMO that fosters a stronge sense of community of its players.
Im just sad to see that EVE has devolved into a multiboxing and bot filled nightmare because CCP snuck in ways to monetize them with buyable skill points and such.
I like that, from what I can tell, all content in EVE has a purpose. You don't out level things. It just has a different purpose.
Lost interest when I realized to fly the Battleship just bought i'd have to wait for 2 1/2 years with full learning books research.
bring back alliance tournament
I don't know what that is but I'll try.
This game is NOT new player friendly because of Mal'Ganis's Law - ANY advantage given to new players will become an even bigger advantage for older players.
The existing playerbase sees these newbies as nothing more than clients to sell overpriced shit to or suckers being told to work for pennies.
These days the best way to get started as a new player involves buying a shitton of PLEX and skill injectors or AN ALREADY SKILLED PILOT.
CCTV Games should rename their product as Pearls Clutching Online.
Played for about 2-3 weeks. It's not for me. Feels more like an idler game than anything, just threw it on and mined while I watched RUclips. Qued a bunch of timed talent tree stuff then quit.
I can't do mining. I would quit for sure if I had to do it.
First point, I'm over 15 years in and I still have not figured out how to like mining. As for your question, What keeps me coming back to EVE, and this is going to sound odd, is the fact that you are nobody. So many MMOs start the game with a cut scene that explains that you are the chosen one and then dumps you out into a world of 10k other "chosen ones". With EVE, especially when I first started, dumped you into the universe with nothing, as a nobody and then wished you the best of luck. There is no endgame, there is no big bad guy to beat before the credits roll, it's just you verses the universe.
This completely! I'm so tired of being the chosen one. I just want to be some guy trying to make it in some crazy scfi/fantasy world.
Nah, it's not worth it.
Second job that doesn't pay you?
Glad I got out years ago, very little reason to ever touch it again. Couldn't possibly recommend it, even after nearly a decade of playing
sit in the button, sell lp for isk, repeat. I won, so i stopped.
Small? Eve has trouble handling more players than it currently does - I mean if you can find an empty/dead area you're likely to make crazy money uncontested, so good luck.
Haha. Small compared to the millions of the big ones.
@@bucklinfondue Millions of other big what? MMO as a genre is a shadow of what it used to be, even blizzard won't post subscriber numbers anymore. Covid was a small resurgence for FF14, other than that you've got a handful of kickstarter MMOs that never happened and a pick-your-poison variety bag of failed/DOA mmos from Amazon and the like. For what Eve is, it's thriving, which is terrifying to really consider so most don't.
@@StykeWarden numbers were recently released from Blizzard and the player base is still well into the millions. But I'm glad EVE is thriving. More players equals more better.
@@StykeWarden *millions of the big ones*
As in the player count. You know, WoW and FF14 have millions of players.
The only thing that you should do in EVE is, J.J.G.S. Just Join Goon Swarm! Yes, I said it. I am not sorry. J.J.G.S.
I have seen the name pop up a few times now. Hmmmmmm.
Nah. Don't join goons. Join Pandemic horde. The newbro on boarding system is unmatched.
Still waiting on high sec capital ships. If those ever became a thing I would sub for the rest of my life. It'll never happen though
Call me naive, but wouldn't that kind of break what high sec is?
join us. Amarr Faction Warfares finest in low sec. Apply an Crimson Inquisition corp today!! Full of pros, patient teachers and lots of fleets
Thanks. I'm actually hoping to join Amarr faction warfare soon.
quafe. quafe is life