Best Kept Secret in Film Photography
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2022
- Film prices have been rising! Rather than spending 129 dollars on 5 rolls of Portra 400 we decided to try out ECN-2 film. It's professional grade motion picture film that has been re-spooled to be shot using any 35mm film camera!
At Indisposable, we aim to modernize the way you get your film developed to make it more accessible for everyone.
While we’re lucky enough to be based out of NYC, a quick subway ride away from a lab, we wanted to help out our fellow film shooters around the country. We opened our mail-in film development service in 2020, and have helped make memories for thousands of people nationwide.
We develop and scan film into digital images that are stored in our app.
They can then be printed and shared on social media.
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In Indonesia, currently KV3 stocks basically are the backbone of the community lol. The price to performance ratio is just out of this world, even beating Portra if developed and scanned correctly. The latitude is also pretty insane
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Damn the shot of the dude with the cigar at the race track is hot
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Where I'm from, in Malaysia, we have a lab called Darkroom8 and they do ecn-2 processing and it is really cheap which is MYR 20 per roll processing and one roll costs around 23-30 MYR. Its actually cheaper than regular C41 films
You could also buy a whole "can" and spool it yourself. Way cheaper than 10/roll in the long run
ECN-2 is a big pain for home developing. It looks great but you basically have to lab it and it's already expensive.
500T is what the majority of Teminator 2 was shot on and is by far my favorite
Its really not that diffcult to do at home. You just have to have temperture control for thr chemicals. That is super easy to do. I just use big ice chests and fill them with proper temp water and let the jugs sit in them. It has more steps than black and white or E-6, but its not difficult or expensive to do at home.
@Orion 77 I develop all of my own C41 color and black and white film myself. I do all my own scanning and color correction from my negatives. I do not develop my own ECN-2 because I've had several issues in my home process, while the lab has done fantastic every time. The remjet pre and post baths always give me issues.
Any tricks you recommend?
@Orion 77 I should have specified by "big pain" I meant "a few more variables that can greatly impact your final result."
A while ago I did a test, shot two rolls of the exact same shots out of the same camera, sent one out to the lab and did the other here. Still had the lab do the scanning. I found that a lot of the saturation/color profile is lost when done at home. You lose even more fidelity if you homescan due to the limitations of home scanners.
Not saying that ECN is bad or anything like that, I just think this information is important to share so we can all make the best decisions for our art/budget.
But in my own personal opinion I'd rather buy a roll of Portra 400, pull it to 200, and then develop it at 400. Looks almost as good as professionally developed and scanned ECN stock but at a much lower price per roll/development.
it is still cheaper than buying any other film stock
@@VicerFx for sure, if you're willing to make the rolls yourself and have all the equipment to do so
Well, $10 a roll is expensive!
I mean at the current market 10$ is cheap af
@@DMTStokes still expensive for Vision3 250D. You could get them bulk rolled for as cheap as $5 here.
@@DMTStokes nah 10$ is average at, least in Spain
2022 update: a single roll of film costs $23 currently
12€ for a roll of good film is sadly the average here in Germany.
Where I’m at and the membership my local film store provides
I can get Kodak vision 3 film at $11 (CAD) per roll
I highly recommend this film stock over anything atm as even now, what was considered budget film stocks are now pricey ie; Kodak Gold, Ultramax, and Color plus. Don’t get me started on portra. I cry looking at those prices.
Vision3 yields better results than Cinestill imo, but that all boils down to how you set the exposure of the film.
Right on! Definitely going to get a roll
I developed mine with C-41 and its still great
Nice Pentax
I find it very difficult to color correct after scanning, but your photos are fire
Need to try this ❤
You can develop it in c-41
(if you remove the remjet layer first.)
But most labs don't do that, so you'll have to develop it at home.
god I really want a film camera
This is god here, son, if you really want a film camera, buy one.
You can literally just develop it in C-41 and wash off the remjet with a washing soda/baking soda solution
so my issue with this is it looks like fujifilm, a cheaper very commercially available film. i don’t doubt is cinema-grade film but the tones remind of fuji too much to use it. i think the way vision works on 16mm is excellent but doesn’t necessarily transfer well to still.
What about the print film that it should be printed on, before it can be projected as a normal positive image? This negative film has the amber-orangy mask that should suppress noise, but the print film doesn't have that. It can be contact printed from the negative, if 1:1, so without optical losses, and then you have a positive image that may be more easily converted to digital.
As the print film is negative too, you might try that instead of this vision3 film spooled into your stills camera too - for fun, to see what the effect is.
Woah haven’t heard Crazytown in years.
It's actually red hot chilli peppers, but yes it's also crazy town
By the way, do you know a way to reverse engineer an ICC file into a logical profile description? Or mirror it, so it can be applied to a neutral image and thus tweak the image into the original that an ICC profile would normally "want" to make neutral?
What film camera is that? Do you have a recommendation?
Looks like a pentax k1000, first camera I ever used. It's a no thrills camera but it just works and has a really easy light meter to use.
Back in the 70s and 80s every photography magazine would run breathless headlines about their test of the super secret Kodak movie film. The verdicts? Yeah, it's a little different but probably not worth changing to.
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Where can I get this?!
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I see these dope colors but what’s the way to get those colors when scanning. Do you folks mainly use negative lab pro?
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"It only cost 10 dollars per roll"... "it can't be done n any film lab"... You're funny dude...funny.
Only $10 a roll but twice as much to process
I have vision 3 with remjet backing, Will it harm the chemistry?
I used 500d With this roll and it for some reason had light leaks on some photos and other it didnt
How does real Vision3 compare to CineStill, which is supposedly just Vision3 without the remjet?
I want. I get
But how big would a filmroll with 60 or 70 pictures be?
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Song?
What camera are you using here?
I got a 122m bulk roll of v3 500t for 120€ putting me at about 1,66€ per roll. (0.046€ per image)
I used to load 500ft cans of this film into cameras. Hence my user name CanMan!
Here in china i bought 55 of those rolls for 4 dollars 😊
That's pretty much all I shoot now. the way I buy it, it basically cost me 5 dollars a roll.
I swear I’ve seen like 10 film RUclipsrs bring this up in the last month!? Is this a gimmick from Kodak or is everyone bandwagoning?
It was just slept on and underrated, you can find $5 bulk loaded rolls and it looks nice af too
Cuz film prices has been skyrocket and people been looking for alternative. Vision3 stocks are way cheaper than photographic stocks, even cheaper than outdated and B&W film. They can be developed in C41 too.
@@lemarz8006 Hey were can you buy bulk loaded rolls?
Where can I buy this
Where do it u buy it????
What IE you shoot this film?
How much is the development for ecn2!
$30 bucks to develop this type plus $25 for c41 is crazy at indisposable 😂😂
Yeah $20 for the cheapest processing and I don't even get my negatives back is crazy.
@random_meteor no negative back?? That's bologna
I live in ksa AKA Saudi Arabia i can get it disposable?
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ONLY ten dollars. ONLY.
I mean, if you account for inflation thats like $3.20 in 1980's money. Im pretty sure film has always been expensive and more of a special occasion thing, we just feel it more now because cost of living has gone up, wages haven't, and we've gotten used to taking WAY more pictures then we used to
@@elk3407 $10 is way too expensive for Vision3 or Double-X though. I live in Brazil and only pay $6.50, whereas a roll of Ultramax costs $27. If they can sell it for that cheap here, it should be cheaper in the US since you don't pay the absurd import duties that we do.
Best kept secret…. For you.
This is a stupid question but what iso do you shoot this at? I’m thinking about transferring the roll into a dummy can of film so I can shoot it in a point and shoot with adx code
The iso is in the name (vision 3 250D)
Vision 3
@@niklasclaro9793 I know that already Uganda knuckles pfp. What is the film DX coded at is my question
(It’s coded for 200iso)
@@_sam I know that you can get dx Code Stickers (they also make them in ISO 250).
But using ISO 200 Film cans is also perfectly fine.
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Something’s poking me into thinking you’re having fun with Kodak Gold, but it’s not. I don’t know, it just could be me.
The colors were all over the place from shot to shot, they’re not consistent in these examples, and they don’t look cinematic at all.
Make the Tri-X, Panasonic X, Verichrome B/W, Kodachrome!
Where is the secret?
I just bought some for sample shots. I will be sending the film to Germany from the US to develop and be scanned using a 14k scanner.
This is not a secret. It’s been around long before RUclips
Petition to get youtubers to stop abusing the word cinematic🤮. Literally established it was a motion picture film stock, how much more cinematic can it get😂
This is such secret everyone is shooting is 😅 it’s 6€ handrolled forma bigger can
Aren't the colors supposed to be flat? Since ECN-2 processing makes the image flat so that it can be adjusted in post. Like that's the whole purpose of motion picture film lol. I wonder how your images appeared cinematic and punchy right out of the camera.
Good luck finding a lab near you that does ECN-2 developing 🤦🏼♂️
Good luck finding any labs that does film developing near you. You have to ship it in regardless.
almost every lab develops ecn2 nowadays
I litteraly have 4 labs in the same street that does ECN-2 development for like 6$ + high res scanning lol
Only costs $10 a roll. Only. Lol. How many exposures? Doesn’t look that different to Kodak.
Because it's Kodak Vision3 250D
if you use kodak vision on a normal film camera or repackaged it into a canister. feel free to unalive yourself