Just found this. After 45 yrs of working with wood I was just reminded of how little I know. Binge watching time...thank you Lou for the schooling - just amazing.
I work at a shipyard and we only had one Shipright who did not like to teach. Well he is retired now so i can't learn from a distance anymore but your videos help me a great deal. We don't have lots of wooden fishing vessels coming up anymore but I've been able to fix alot of their problems thanks to the knowledge I have gained from you and your videos. Thanks for sharing.
This just randomly popped up in my recommended, and now, as someone who loves many things nautical, I have yet another channel to check out. Thanks so much. Woodworking and ship building both interest me. Glad to see I can get the information I want.
I have never seen such a brilliant explanation and demonstration on capillarity and porosity for lumber used on boats. Great video thanks for that info.
Great demonstration. Years ago, I showed a supplier that I could blow bubbles through a piece of supposed "white" oak and that charactistic was a problem. He was relying on color, which is not reliable. Also, I've been told that there are numerous oak crosses or hybrids that can have characteristics of either parent species. Ex/chestnut oak.
I was researching wood for aircraft and came across forest product laboratory report 354 which stated that white oak heartwood was impervious to water. Making me concerned it may not glue well... this is a great report to take a look at. Thanks for this excellent demonstration!
Great video. Loved it. So much I went into a deeper search about OAKs even when I don't care about wood. Here is what i found: White oak is darker gray, red oak is a lighter pinkish. White oak Janka harness scale of 1360 vs red oak 1260 White oak is more used in boats and floor and red oak more used in furniture. White oak has a vanilla smell good for wine barrels, red oak smell is not as pleasant. White oak is heavier and harder to cut, needs carbide-tipped blades and bits to cut it. Price varies but are pretty similar between both.
Amazing. This is the quality of education I want my children to have. Real skills, backed up with a foundation of real understanding of the scientific principles behind those skills.
Thanks Louie, tho I build cabinets not boats, every little bit of knowledge about wood and its amazing intricacies is appreciated. One more re-inspired Aussie, great job mate, 10 stars and thumbs up
Thanks for the alcohol demonstration. We've got lots of red oak in the stores here in Texas but now I know why to use white oak for boats. And how to test a piece to determine what it REALLY is. Bravo!
This Sir is excellent. I have to identify and replace boards on an oak floor. Wasn't sure if it was white or red oak. This will definitely help me in identifying what I type I have. Being a very visual learner, this was a huge help, Thanks!
Excellent presentation. Thanks! Now, I understand the importance of using white oak and not using red oak, and I know how to determine which is which regardless of how it’s labeled when sold. 👍🏻
Wow, before this video, I knew nothing about ship woods. I had no interest before this video. Now I have a ton of interest. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
I've been a professional woodworker for eight years and I haven't had a chance to use red oak yet. Last year our foreman showed a sample from a vendor and I could not tell the difference with white oak which we use often for arts and crafts furniture. Thanks for the information.
Great video, thank you for posting it. My wife and I recently bought a Wood Mizer LT15 sawmill . We live on a lake and were discussing building a wooden Jon boat to leave at the lake. We have plenty of both red and white oak available and were wondering which wood to use. Now to find a good "build your own wooden Jon boat video. Thanks again for posting.
Either is fine for a jon boat that will receive care or have a finite life span.But I'd use white if possible or where needed most.If you havent seen it check out his new series were he is building something similar to what you want too.
thanks so much, we had just bought 6 bundles of red oak from home depot and I had my doubts so I tried your test and you were right. I had to return the whole load, better than installing it first!
it was sold as red oak. I just bought the wrong type. white oak is the best type to me. there was air conditioner leaks under the carpet that could be sanded out, I don't think the red oak would have fared as well seeing this test, its even used for whiskey barrels.
I always wondered why shipbuilders stayed away from red oak. I was always under the impression that red and white oaks were essentially the same. Looks like I was dead wrong. Really interesting video and now I know how to identify red and white oak when the color difference isn't so obvious.
Brilliant videos, Louis. Thanks so much for producing them. I'm in the process of restoring 2 Chris Craft Runabouts and wasn't sure which pieces of my stock of seasoned oak were red and which were white. Nobody around here seemed to be able to help me identify it . Then I found this video : I should have known you would have it covered! Thanks again. Keep up the great work. Alvan Judson
I am more and more glad I chose white oak for building my friend's bench. Expensive and HEAVY and friggen ATE sanding disks, but now I am convinced its probably going to outlive me.
I watch a lot of engineering videos and the odd woodworking one, but I've never watched boat stuff so I have no idea how I got here. That said, it was pretty interesting. Thanks for the concise and informative piece Louis.
WOW that was extremely informative and so valuable for anyone wanting to build a wooden boat out of oak. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Wow very cool demo. I had always heard that people used to use white oak for water troughs and also for any kind of water chutes that channeled water and also for water wheels. Now I know the truth of the matter, very cool stuff.
Wow... all kinds of informative. Tbh I always thought they were the same save for colour. Honestly did not know about the "straws" in red oak. Thank you for this.
You are a genius... I wonder as a vine maker/ brewer what the barrel differences would be between an American oak barrel and a French oak barrel.This test is a quick way to see those different properties of each. Thank you.
Many years ago I was watching Roy Underhill with The Woodwright Shop, and he took a piece of red oak (seems like it was about 1" x 1" x 24") and stuck one end in a barrel of water and blew into the other end. The air went straight through it and bubbled up in the water like it was a straw. I never knew that was possible. You always think of wood as being "solid".
Fantastic presentation. I wonder where the DC current comes from? Is this the current that dissociates the Sodium and Chlorine from the salt? Or is this current generated when the NaCl dissociates into its ion form? We can see how the Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) and Hydrochloric acid (HCl) can form but when mixed together they neutralise and form Salt (NaCl) and Water (H2O). Is there a process occurring inside or on the surface of the oak wood? It’s either that or an external current is present that drives the chemical reaction in one direction.
Great info. Question: If you're going to make a brace, backing plate or something structural that will be out of the water and epoxied, would you want red oak, seems like it would absorb more epoxy than white oak, would it then be less subject to weathering?
Excellent demonstration and explanation. It makes me wonder if red oak could be used to filter a liquid. If red oak was made into activated charcoal it would have a lot of surface area. It seems like red oak could soak up hot paraffin or some other wood preservative and sealer to make it better for water contact.
I am a Forest Technoligist. We were taught that as mentioned, in cooperage (barrels) white oak is called tight oak and red oak is called slack oak. This is related to its water or liquid holding capacity.
In my old house, the floors were constructed with a mix of red and white oak which created an interesting pattern. Back in the day it seems they used whatever they had on hand. Regardless, the floor has taught me to differentiate.
I'm not absolutely sure but.. By utilising metals In conjunction with a type of wood that soakes up a highly conductive fluid like a spunge in the cunstruction you're basically making a galvanic cell..
I truly believe this type of video is a perfect example of "good internet".
cool
Great internet!
So interesting
this is oldschool youtube at it's finest. no hassle, eternal classic.
Exactly
There I was just scrolling along... living in the Midwest, never planning on building a boat, watching this with 100% full attention!
dude i was watching game dev vids... wtf how am i here
Dunno why RUclips recommended this. Dunno why I clicked it. But now I want this guy to build me a boat. I never even wanted a boat before.
Dave Cooke get in line
You know dave, that line is REALLY LONG, good luck.
Thanks, that’s so true, Why?!!😂🤣😋
This guy is a true artisan. Incredibly knowledgeable, interesting, and things I didn't already know.
Winning compilation.
Fantastic demonstration, Louis is a born teacher.
Just found this. After 45 yrs of working with wood I was just reminded of how little I know. Binge watching time...thank you Lou for the schooling - just amazing.
Never put a red oak boat in an alcohol river.
Red oak soda straws. Make your big gulp last a month!
Where's all the rum gone?
Non-smokers are safe in standard alcohol rivers.
With an Irish Capt
On Pay Day.
Been a long time since the last time watched without fast forwarding or skipping. Pure knowledge, a feast for my brain.
I work at a shipyard and we only had one Shipright who did not like to teach. Well he is retired now so i can't learn from a distance anymore but your videos help me a great deal. We don't have lots of wooden fishing vessels coming up anymore but I've been able to fix alot of their problems thanks to the knowledge I have gained from you and your videos. Thanks for sharing.
I have no interest in building a boat but it is always enjoyable to listen to someone who knows their craft well.
After 5 years this just suddenly gets reccomended by RUclips...
I think some people want to follow Nohas Example and build a boat.
This is so awesome. Love how he's so passionate about his work.
Especially when he's using technical words... respect.
Never a better teacher, well done.
Now there's a man that knows his stuff 👍
It takes a man who knows his stuff to know a man who knows his stuff ;)
I learn more from you than anyone else I've ever listened to.. I love your videos
Best video on wood I’ve seen. Don’t know why it took me 10 years to find it.
One of the most informative videos I have watched. Definately worth your time.
This just randomly popped up in my recommended, and now, as someone who loves many things nautical, I have yet another channel to check out.
Thanks so much. Woodworking and ship building both interest me. Glad to see I can get the information I want.
I don't intend to build boats, but as a naturally curious person I appreciate the quality of this video. Thanks!
I have never seen such a brilliant explanation and demonstration on capillarity and porosity for lumber used on boats.
Great video thanks for that info.
I learn something every single time I watch one of Lou's videos. That was a very informative demonstration.
Great demonstration. Years ago, I showed a supplier that I could blow bubbles through a piece of supposed "white" oak and that charactistic was a problem. He was relying on color, which is not reliable. Also, I've been told that there are numerous oak crosses or hybrids that can have characteristics of either parent species. Ex/chestnut oak.
That was the best video concerning red vs white oak I have ever seen.
I was researching wood for aircraft and came across forest product laboratory report 354 which stated that white oak heartwood was impervious to water. Making me concerned it may not glue well... this is a great report to take a look at. Thanks for this excellent demonstration!
This video explained to my wife why I paid extra for white oak flooring vs cheaper red oak flooring in our house. Thank you very much.
Great video. Loved it. So much I went into a deeper search about OAKs even when I don't care about wood.
Here is what i found:
White oak is darker gray, red oak is a lighter pinkish.
White oak Janka harness scale of 1360 vs red oak 1260
White oak is more used in boats and floor and red oak more used in furniture.
White oak has a vanilla smell good for wine barrels, red oak smell is not as pleasant.
White oak is heavier and harder to cut, needs carbide-tipped blades and bits to cut it.
Price varies but are pretty similar between both.
Amazing. This is the quality of education I want my children to have. Real skills, backed up with a foundation of real understanding of the scientific principles behind those skills.
These videos are great throw in the physics and chemistry with the craftsmanship,...what else do you need
Thanks Louie, tho I build cabinets not boats, every little bit of knowledge about wood and its amazing intricacies is appreciated. One more re-inspired Aussie, great job mate, 10 stars and thumbs up
"You can see the difference between white oak and red oak almost immediately", yep, the white oak is almost red and the red oak is almost white!
That's exactly what I thought as well. Until he named which was which, I thought it was perfectly clear
I think it's the colour of the leaves or the flowers - I forget which.
@donal haha yes that was exactly what i was thinking. red oak = white, white oak = red. got it!
Thanks for the alcohol demonstration. We've got lots of red oak in the stores here in Texas but now I know why to use white oak for boats. And how to test a piece to determine what it REALLY is. Bravo!
This Sir is excellent. I have to identify and replace boards on an oak floor. Wasn't sure if it was white or red oak. This will definitely help me in identifying what I type I have. Being a very visual learner, this was a huge help, Thanks!
You SIr are a Genius. Extremely well explained
Excellent presentation. Thanks! Now, I understand the importance of using white oak and not using red oak, and I know how to determine which is which regardless of how it’s labeled when sold. 👍🏻
Wow, before this video, I knew nothing about ship woods. I had no interest before this video. Now I have a ton of interest. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Fascinating demo, we were never taught this at boat building college, reckon we should have!
I've been a professional woodworker for eight years and I haven't had a chance to use red oak yet. Last year our foreman showed a sample from a vendor and I could not tell the difference with white oak which we use often for arts and crafts furniture. Thanks for the information.
I had no idea! I had just thought that the difference between red and white was the color and texture.
This is a. Great video.
This is the only man that can make double denim look right lol!
Love the knowledge learning from this guy’s videos
I have never liked Red Oak, just another reason why. Such a great and informative video!
I LOVE this man. Expert to the core and excellent teacher. Thanks from Biloxi Mississippi
Wow you are incredibly intelligent. You’re a craftsman and a chemist in one!
You just ended a years long debate. Thank you. I was exhausted.
Great video, thank you for posting it.
My wife and I recently bought a Wood Mizer LT15 sawmill . We live on a lake and were discussing building a wooden Jon boat to leave at the lake. We have plenty of both red and white oak available and were wondering which wood to use.
Now to find a good "build your own wooden Jon boat video.
Thanks again for posting.
Either is fine for a jon boat that will receive care or have a finite life span.But I'd use white if possible or where needed most.If you havent seen it check out his new series were he is building something similar to what you want too.
Simple, Concise, Educational. Well done mate.
Ingenious. No one else was able to tell me how to figure out if my floor was red or white oak. Now I know. I cut a bit out and its white for sure.
Great informative video! About 40 years ago I saw a great boatbuilder named Carl Felix demonstrate this by blowing smoke through a piece of Red Oak.
That was entirely fascinating and an amazing learning experience. Thank you.
A very clear demonstration & explanation - Now I fully understand,
Thank you Mr. Louis
This is effing crazy. Always wanted to build a boat. Going to watch this channel religiously before I take on that project.
thanks so much, we had just bought 6 bundles of red oak from home depot and I had my doubts so I tried your test and you were right. I had to return the whole load, better than installing it first!
it was sold as red oak. I just bought the wrong type. white oak is the best type to me. there was air conditioner leaks under the carpet that could be sanded out, I don't think the red oak would have fared as well seeing this test, its even used for whiskey barrels.
I always wondered why shipbuilders stayed away from red oak. I was always under the impression that red and white oaks were essentially the same. Looks like I was dead wrong. Really interesting video and now I know how to identify red and white oak when the color difference isn't so obvious.
Just discovered your channel! Overly joyed! Thank you sir!
Facinating demonstration.
Brilliant videos, Louis. Thanks so much for producing them. I'm in the process of restoring 2 Chris Craft Runabouts and wasn't sure which pieces of my stock of seasoned oak were red and which were white. Nobody around here seemed to be able to help me identify it . Then I found this video : I should have known you would have it covered! Thanks again. Keep up the great work. Alvan Judson
I came searching for the best choice of wood for column bases for my old house repair. I leave smarter - Thank you!
I am more and more glad I chose white oak for building my friend's bench. Expensive and HEAVY and friggen ATE sanding disks, but now I am convinced its probably going to outlive me.
The capillarital porosity of the medullary ionization is remarkable!
All I can say is Wow! This guy sure knows his wood. And his chemistry. Oh, and boats too.
Fantastic video sir, great simple demonstration.
I watch a lot of engineering videos and the odd woodworking one, but I've never watched boat stuff so I have no idea how I got here. That said, it was pretty interesting. Thanks for the concise and informative piece Louis.
WOW that was extremely informative and so valuable for anyone wanting to build a wooden boat out of oak. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
You are the best....thank you for allowing me to learn so much....thank you...God loves you.
Simple and easy to understand. Great demonstration!
Very informative Louis! I am sharing this to a friend's page for his viewing. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge!
Excellent demonstration. Thanks for uploading it.
Woah. This is so reliable, yet random, information good ol’ fashion RUclips has recommended.
Wow very cool demo. I had always heard that people used to use white oak for water troughs and also for any kind of water chutes that channeled water and also for water wheels. Now I know the truth of the matter, very cool stuff.
I learned something new here Louis . Thanks
Louis, thank you sir! I am restoring the column bases of my historic home - I know now exactly what species of wood I will use and why.
Ordered some Red Oak a few days ago.. Seems that the glue will be a nice match for the red oak. Thanks so much, awesome video.
+Mark II You're right, red oak glues up better than white oak because you get a better mechanical bond with the more porous surface of the red oak
No idea how I got here. 100% satisfied with the result.
I have a sudden realization for my desire to become a shipbuilder.
Probably just the alcohol talking.
Wow... all kinds of informative. Tbh I always thought they were the same save for colour. Honestly did not know about the "straws" in red oak. Thank you for this.
You are a genius... I wonder as a vine maker/ brewer what the barrel differences would be between an American oak barrel and a French oak barrel.This test is a quick way to see those different properties of each. Thank you.
Brilliant demonstration! Thank you.
I had no idea about this when I put some red oak on my boat. Great video! DD
Many years ago I was watching Roy Underhill with The Woodwright Shop, and he took a piece of red oak (seems like it was about 1" x 1" x 24") and stuck one end in a barrel of water and blew into the other end. The air went straight through it and bubbled up in the water like it was a straw. I never knew that was possible. You always think of wood as being "solid".
Excellent information!
He knows of what he speaks!!!
"I guarantee you I didn't have any alcohol in my mouth" lol.
Where have I heard that before...
Fantastic presentation. I wonder where the DC current comes from?
Is this the current that dissociates the Sodium and Chlorine from the salt? Or is this current generated when the NaCl dissociates into its ion form?
We can see how the Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) and Hydrochloric acid (HCl) can form but when mixed together they neutralise and form Salt (NaCl) and Water (H2O).
Is there a process occurring inside or on the surface of the oak wood? It’s either that or an external current is present that drives the chemical reaction in one direction.
So nice vedio to show real boat building skill.Thanks You are a great master.
this is the kind of style and personality we need for teachers.
Very cool. He went full chemistry nerd at the end there. Love it.
Great presentation
Good video! I don't say that very often. Well shot, well mic'd.
You did it right. Bravo/a.
Great info.
Question: If you're going to make a brace, backing plate or something structural that will be out of the water and epoxied, would you want red oak, seems like it would absorb more epoxy than white oak, would it then be less subject to weathering?
Excellent demonstration and explanation. It makes me wonder if red oak could be used to filter a liquid. If red oak was made into activated charcoal it would have a lot of surface area. It seems like red oak could soak up hot paraffin or some other wood preservative and sealer to make it better for water contact.
Living in Colorado doesn't require me to know a whole lot about boating, but this is truly fascinating.
cameras need to be sent out to all master trades people around the world and have there knowledge stored and shared forever just like this.
Very good demonstration!
good to know ... no question ... thank you
That's a very neat trick. Thank you very much for sharing it.
I am a Forest Technoligist. We were taught that as mentioned, in cooperage (barrels) white oak is called tight oak and red oak is called slack oak. This is related to its water or liquid holding capacity.
I loved this, so much learnt in such a small amount of time. Thanks for posting this.
Best thing on the internet today!
Wouldn’t you consider the winter effects?
Like the way a Stradivarius violin is so great because of the harsh winters and tighter rigs
*rings
In my old house, the floors were constructed with a mix of red and white oak which created an interesting pattern. Back in the day it seems they used whatever they had on hand. Regardless, the floor has taught me to differentiate.
Amazing. I learned so much from this video. Thank you!
Why would there be DC current going through the wood in a boat? From electrical shorting?
Yes I am also confused.
I'm not absolutely sure but.. By utilising metals In conjunction with a type of wood that soakes up a highly conductive fluid like a spunge in the cunstruction you're basically making a galvanic cell..