International 2.4mR Sailboat Project - Episode 44 - Installing the deck, part 2
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2021
- This is episode forty-four of an ongoing series following the construction of a wooden International 2.4 metre class sailboat. The design is called the Stradivari Mk IV by Hasse Malmsten.
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Such beautiful sounds coming off that boat as you plane. Arched spruce and mahogany with the cockpit sound hole, struck with the sharp blade of the plane cutting end grain. That,s the stratavarious of boat building!
Love the plane hack
As the previous guy MikeAG333 said it looks very much like an Azebiki Nokogiri saw. They have a 75 mm blade length listed on Amazon uk ,but out of stock. Probably covid causing shortages. I like the look of it ,its going on my wish list.
your new saw is on the way :P
This might be goofy since I don't build boats but the transition amidship looks like it would be the gangway to the cockpit so if that's where you would need purchase to raise and lower yourself maybe something with a grippy texture and appearance might be cool which would justify it ? I seem to remember getting out of some kayaks that where slippery when wet.Maybe a good place to inlay a dank Nomad Boat logo🏴☠️.
The guys on my woodworking forum reckon it's an Azebiki, and say there are lots of different sizes. I only use Western pattern saws myself, so can't help you.
Your, sir, suck at not helping people. It is indeed an Azebiki saw, available on Amazon.
www.amazon.com/Japanese-Gyokudo-AZEBIKI-cutter-Carpenter/dp/B07FL4BVS4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=azebiki&qid=1624812189&sr=8-1
Thanks for the great update Mark. I especially enjoy hearing you think out loud considering layout options. You touched on silver soldering, any chance there might be a video in the future talking about the basic kit and skills needed?
Additionally I’m getting around to finishing a shellback dinghy and was hoping to find out where you bought or how you made the copper(?) flanged ferrules used in your Shellback and Bouche dory. They are a lovely feature and give things a finished touch. Keep up the excellent work!
That does look like a Azebiki or blind cut saw but there are some differences. I can't find that profile and the typical Azebiki have a more rounded blade.
Yes, exactly. the size is way smaller too. That's why I was asking if anybody knew the name. It's different enough that I recall it having a different name when I bought it. Just don't remember what it was.
I know this is probably a dumb idea but would it possible to have like a stub attachment for the plane that, in turn, had some kind of sliding bevel feature so you could set uup the plane to follow any angle or even take an angle from one place and use the plane to carve that angle at another place?
Yup, you could definitely do that. There is probably even an antique manufactured doo-dad for that out there.
Azebiki Dual Sided Saw. Search till you find one.
I reckon the margin board should be continuous...it's a lovely fair line, would be sad to lose/confuse it.
I don’t disagree. Stay tuned.
it looks like a japanese trim saw... comes in alot of different sizes as mentioned below
Thanks Jeff.
Another great video , was wondering if you ever managed to look up the “Poole canoe “ and do you have a similar craft by another name? I live in Poole ,Dorset ,England we have one of the largest natural harbours, which is very shallow in places so the Poole canoe had a flat bottom to accommodate that type of water, I am not a boat person but I do work with timber so have picked up many tips and tricks from you , so for that I thank you ,and look forward to your next video…
Nope. Can’t say that I have ever heard of the Poole canoe. I’ll look into it.
I think you were right after all to not use a router to plane that upper edge, doing it by hand was overall the smart move.
hahahah not very often you hear someone nowadays use the word " thusly " although I do use it myself, I was just surprise to hear you use it. lol
There are some words that the modernist folks don't use and as a result they have trouble defining things but there are lots of older words that define many things much clearer than our modern counterparts. like the word Brabble which means to argue loudly about words of no importance. Jargogle means to confuse someone. or a Rawgabbit is a person who likes to talk about things that they really don't know anything about. I know, I got way too much time on my hands.
Well my wife loves to brabble on at me and my brother is a champion rawgabbiter. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a hootenanny to arrange.
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Unless you are in a production environment, speed shouldn't be a driving factor.
How are you doing keeping to the class weight target/limit?
We are still in the window.
it's a short panel saw. you can get it at wood butchers, bath, me.
The saw is called an azebiki. Available on eBay
So, quick question: On the hatch behind the cockpit, are you going to plank it, then CAREFULLY saw the line for the hatch, OR carefully cut and fit the planking to the deck separately? I can see advantages either way.
I’m going to do the latter. Sort of. Stay tuned.
@@Nomadboatbuilding oh, Yeah! I've been following you since the Bouchie Dory
I was guessing its a Japanese saw as they have tons of diff saws for certain applications saw a Japanese woodworker with 100s of different chisels and the other 100s of different wood plane widths types etc... then a cook with 100s of knives..
The saw is an Azebiki.
The saw a Azebeki.
for the cockpit, wouldn't it make sense to put the deck right up flush, route it flush, then add a kind of oval shape with a quarter of it cut out kind of like a kayak? it would steam bend and cover all the seams, and be very durable, plus keep water spray on the deck and out of the cockpit... just a thought, and it could be a different kind of wood for a nice accent... not sure if that matches with the look you're going for though... just a thought.
Stay tuned. We’ll get there pretty soon.
Sorry about trashing your saw. Used it to chisel my granite work top. My bad.
I suspected you all along!
It’s a Japanese Azebiki saw and you can find them on Amazon.
Nope. Pretty positive it’s got a different name. I have an Azebiki and it’s much larger.
@@Nomadboatbuilding How long is the blade on your small saw?
Maybe 2” by about an inch wide.
Try tis site they have a number of different sorts and sizes. www.fine-tools.com/azebiki.html
Does it drive anybody else here watching crazy this wobbling the hull does in it's slings, or is it only me? ;)
E v e r y time it doesm I just go: ah, man, get a real cradle, will you :)
I am totalty with you!
Me too. My idea is to put a piece of 2x4 across the hull and then ratchet strap it down to the base.
What will stop the plywood edge from rotting.
Epoxy I presume.
Well it’s high quality plywood but it will get capped off before we’re done.
What is the thickness of the material .....glue no screws forget the idea of planks it looks disorganized solid stock would look better .....cover board same thickness not a good choice cover board a little thicker with a quarter round on depth inboard and about that thing called a king plank make it out of a different species of wood something lighter in color than the Mohagany it helps define length of the vessel and gives the boat a lightning stripe through the middle all the way to aft deck that's good looking
Just cause you have off cuts and a small deck does not mean that's the look tell the owner to fork over a little more dough and get the grain of the wood to give strength in the way wood grain is supposed to anything less is just uncivilized.....
Azibeke panel saw.
The curved blade type is definitely Azebiki. They come in different blade sizes. You're probably wanting a 60mm blade.
@@cliff4wd I have a larger Azebiki. I'm pretty positive this one had a different name when I bought it.
Ask samurai carpenter on RUclips about the saw
It drives me crazy that you don't stiffen ur boat support up....so you could work on it without it jumping and bouncing all over the place
Yup. Me too.
You didn’t really say what made the saw so crappy If it’s just dull then you can quickly sharpen it with a file. That’s how they made it in the first place. Think of it as a chainsaw. If it’s missing teeth or out of angle well then it’s done for. Too bad it looks like a quality saw.
Teeth busted right out of the business part! I may resort to trying a regrind one of these days.
NocoGiri
Thank you.
@@Nomadboatbuilding I appreciate your videos quite a bit. Thanks for giving me a little project to do for you.
I appreciate it. Still trying to find the exact saw though. Many many replies but all point to the same larger version of the Abeziki that I already have.
@@Nomadboatbuilding hmm. My other comment had a couple of different sizes I found. One was a mini that was (12”) as a part of a set. The second link was to a 15” one with a 90mm blade. I thought sure that was very close, based on sizing it by eye on your video. I made this other comment, with just the name Nokogiri, Because a search of that name brought up several of that same design. Azebiki (double sided) Nokogiri- the shorter blade size type.
I’ll look again. I only had a chance for a quick glance. Been too busy to dig into the response links. Thanks for looking into it for me. You came closer than anyone to what I’m after.
Woodcraft, who bought out the Japan Woodworker, sells this saw. It is called a Hishika 3 1/2" rip/crosscut mortise saw (Azibiki Ryoba) and it sells for $49>99.
That’s where I got it 25 years ago. Thanks. Ah, but alas, not the same saw.
@@Nomadboatbuilding Highland Woodworking sells a a number of Japanese hand saws. Several of them looked like they might be a match for your saw.
Can you not sharpen it like a saw……..?
Yes but the teeth are halfway busted right off. I would have to grind it all right back and re-form the teeth. They are extremely fine and the tooth pattern is pretty tricky to get right at the best of times.
@@Nomadboatbuilding get it welded by someone who can do it if you can’t then grind it very carefully thin, ………….then sharpen it !
Not likely. The blade is only 0.010 thick.
Japanese Azebiki Saw with Wooden Handle
Product Code: MS-60AZ carbtec Flexible Azebiki style blade
What plank would borrow your saw without asking and then trash it? Shameful 🤬
Money money money...It's always about the money...Huh?
Nope. It’s not always about the money but there sure are a lot of people that keep asking me for some.
@@Nomadboatbuilding That's funny...