Upgrade Your John Deere Wheel Bushings NOW!

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

Комментарии • 262

  • @TarylFixesAll
    @TarylFixesAll  3 года назад +3

    Support the channel! Grab yourself a Taryl T-Shirt, Coffee Mug, Tools & More! Shipping Worldwide Daily from the Taryl Apparel online store!
    www.TARYLFIXESALL.com

    • @Danguy351
      @Danguy351 Год назад

      Curious if you put together a kit that includes the 6 pieces? Either thru your website or (hopefully) on Amazon

  • @stephens7107
    @stephens7107 5 лет назад +12

    Right , most "mechanics" today are not really that. They are merely "part changers" and don't "think outside the shop.". You Taryl on the other hand are a master mechanic of the old school type. Love your videos!

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 2 года назад

      That’s the truth, there useless and over charged every one ☝️

  • @rapturebound197
    @rapturebound197 5 лет назад +23

    Who would ever think you could learn valuable mechanical repairs on lawnmowers and stuff and laugh at the same time!
    And the funny thing is now when I'm fixing my stuff after watching one of these videos Im playin' the background music to Taryl's videos in my head. Bang bang yeow...bang bang yeow! True story.
    Thanx Taryl to you and your whole crew. God bless!

    • @TarylFixesAll
      @TarylFixesAll  5 лет назад +1

      Mike Kotowski It’s actually available for streaming and download! All the main theme music is from the show. Oh, and it’s “Grass Rats Yowww!” Now there’s your dinner!!
      ruclips.net/video/klh06s6E5uE/видео.html

  • @jmc5341
    @jmc5341 5 лет назад +31

    That thinking outside the shop comment is so true. There was a guy in one of your recent videos that was very upset you used a set screw to secure a valve guide. Even though it works and saves money it's just not right to do apparently. Even NASA would tell him it's just a lawnmower, put away your torque wrench.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 5 лет назад

      I was doing an engine rebuild for my pulley swapped backyard play mower.
      The head ports were good awful , but I had to keep telling myself its a mower , not a race car.
      I like precision and all that, but there's a time and a place for it

    • @armyvet4081
      @armyvet4081 5 лет назад +1

      I have been working on mowers for 60 years and have never put a torque wrench to anything on a mower . never .I only use a torque wrench on car heads and things like that.I have rebuilt many mower engines and never used a torque wrench. Taryl is right, it is not a space ship. Lawn mowers are not that high tech.

    • @sweetpigfarm3645
      @sweetpigfarm3645 5 лет назад

      I work w/ HD trucks its bad. Parts replacers only. I was in the parts department moved on up, stuff I figured out long ago like parts upgrade and cost saving all being forgotten....even though I put notes in the DIGITAL parts system.

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage 3 года назад

      couldn't do something like that with an airplane though. if you do anything not 100% by the book for airplanes, like use a car exhaust clamp rather than an FAA approved exhaust clamp, and then the pilot rams his airplane into a mountain for fun, the FAA will be at your door to take your license and toss you in prison.

    • @viewer54322
      @viewer54322 3 года назад

      @@nybergsgarage thats true but the issue is when people apply that type of autism to mowers where it isnt the case. Taryl's work is safe and effective but that is lost on some people around here. Kinda adds to the entertainment though, love when he busts their balls

  • @jmc5341
    @jmc5341 5 лет назад +2

    I've been wanting to do this forever but havent felt like taking the time to look into what I would need. This is a very helpful video.

  • @robj2704
    @robj2704 5 лет назад

    Yeah. Glad you came up with this. My bushings will need replacing one day, and I'll remember this one. Great idea since it does eliminate replacing the spindles because the needle bearings ride on the surface of the spindle where bushings have not ridden. I guess the best way is for someone to come up with grease seals on each side of the wheel to keep grit out, but haven't seen that remedy as yet.

  • @rmiller6483
    @rmiller6483 5 лет назад +4

    Good ole Ronnie... 👍👍👍👍 another great classic video from our favorite guys on the ole RUclips....

    • @caratcranker5874
      @caratcranker5874 5 лет назад

      Ronnie tried selling candy to my baby boy, he got an eye full of Diarrhoea.

  • @johndondero8619
    @johndondero8619 4 года назад +4

    They don’t want to think outside the box because they want you to keep coming back for the same repair. Great videos Taryl.

  • @lisamcqueen8509
    @lisamcqueen8509 5 лет назад +4

    Right on Taryl!
    I've always used material handling equipment bearings and bushinging. Never used oem.
    M&H parts built for higher load limits and extreme temps.

    • @edgenet1
      @edgenet1 5 лет назад

      And how do you know this ????

  • @hollowheresy
    @hollowheresy 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for making these videos informative and very funny. "These aren't free range bearings, they're caged bearings." 😂 Hilarious and it works as a mnemonic device to help me remember what they’re called because I had no idea those existed until today.

  • @tonymontana897
    @tonymontana897 3 года назад +1

    Hey Taryl, It would be great if you can link up those bits for the bearing upgrade as it's really time consuming to trudge through the website looking for a needle in a hay stack.
    Is it possible to throw the links up next time please ??

  • @jamesshivers8213
    @jamesshivers8213 5 лет назад +1

    POP goes the bearing. Lol loved it. Also I like that wheel bearing fix. Thanks

  • @mcarroll598
    @mcarroll598 5 лет назад +30

    Think outside the shop, I laughed so hard when you were talking about think outside the shop!! Lol

  • @billlovett4256
    @billlovett4256 5 лет назад +6

    I like the Stens bearings for those rims 215-211 , only sealed on the outside so they're greasable. And the price is right.

  • @ronaldcach2779
    @ronaldcach2779 5 лет назад +2

    GREAT INFORMATIVE CHANNEL Learned a lot from you, Thanks Taryl.

  • @rverro8478
    @rverro8478 5 лет назад +5

    I've installed brass bushings many years ago on the "test subject" riding mower. Still going strong while, my other mower needs constant " up-keeping ". All in the name of small engine projects.

  • @chainsawchips
    @chainsawchips 5 лет назад +43

    I'm gonna be singin "Pop goes the Bearing" all day.

    • @ferolcat2009
      @ferolcat2009 5 лет назад

      Me too, it's catchy..lol

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 5 лет назад

      I got a backyard play toy, I was killing bushings but I upgraded to toro wheels with a 1.75 od bearing vs the 1 3/8 standard stuff.
      And you can find good bearings for em.

  • @genesloan3175
    @genesloan3175 5 лет назад +1

    Learned another way to fix spindle bearing worn out problem! Thanks!

  • @TedBishop1
    @TedBishop1 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome video guys very entertaining and informative ! Pop ! goes the bearing !

  • @russb3816
    @russb3816 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for all the laughs. You just made my day.

  • @timetogodoug
    @timetogodoug 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks Taryl, have a great day!

  • @papabear4571
    @papabear4571 4 года назад

    I worked for mack trucks 20years then Chevrolet for 20 years the mack guys could fix anything like you the chevy guys only could replace parts ypou are old school and that's great, good man .I am retired now if I was close to you I would be a shop pest .

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra 2 года назад

    what a great way to spend thanksgiving.

  • @jaryljackderriere1232
    @jaryljackderriere1232 5 лет назад +1

    A true improvement to those cheap bushings. That's some real thinkin' outside the shop.

  • @StonyAcresEstate
    @StonyAcresEstate 5 лет назад +1

    It's not a FREE RANGE bearing! Love it!

  • @gordbaker896
    @gordbaker896 5 лет назад +2

    Still looked sloppy at 15:17. I redrilled the rims and put the valve on the same side as the zerk fitting.
    Those look like they will prevent further wear of the spindle. Does the cage bearing actually ride on the good center portion of the spindle or just act as a spacer?

    • @staind288
      @staind288 5 лет назад

      I was wondering that too, if the cage bearing was merely a spacer. My rims' center is raised higher than the bushing 'knocks' so the caged bearing would only be a soacer

    • @ThisOldMan-ya472
      @ThisOldMan-ya472 5 лет назад +2

      It is just a lawn mower, so some slop isn't going to run you into the ditch at 60mph. I do not really see the advantage of installing the caged bearing however. If you go to a bearing shop(industrial supplier), you can give them the shaft size, the bore size and ask for a sealed flange bearing and they will find one. I spun a trailer bearing in the hub, and found out one can get 0.001 , 0.002" oversize bearing race. Still using the same hub for the past ten years.

    • @gordbaker896
      @gordbaker896 5 лет назад

      @@ThisOldMan-ya472 That works great if the spindle is not damaged like this one was.
      It likely could be bronzed on the underside, filed smooth and then sealed bearings. New Spindles and sealed Bearings please.

    • @ThisOldMan-ya472
      @ThisOldMan-ya472 5 лет назад

      @@gordbaker896 I saw the spindle damage, and a end bearings would work fine on that shaft. If need be, just tap a cotter pin in there as a shim, as it is soft metal.

  • @knighthawk86855
    @knighthawk86855 5 лет назад +4

    Another thing you can do, with your adopt a part program .... Free range parts, or..... Organic parts.... LMAO, great video.

  • @larrycroft470
    @larrycroft470 5 лет назад

    Taryl you are such a ham. You are entertaining and very very good at what you do. Thank you for taking the time to share your vast knowledge with these videos while making me laugh whilst I learn.....

  • @garymaris9471
    @garymaris9471 5 лет назад

    Another goodun, thanks Taryl, look forward to y'all every week! "Gary in Oregon "

  • @kenwinston2245
    @kenwinston2245 5 лет назад +4

    This channel always cracks me up. 😂

  • @jimtrimble3040
    @jimtrimble3040 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome as always

  • @josephpuchel6497
    @josephpuchel6497 5 лет назад +2

    It’s not the space shuttle. Great video very informative. Excellent video

  • @jayton80
    @jayton80 4 года назад

    I am doing this upgrade to my new E130 once the caged bearings arrive. Keep up the great work Taryl!

  • @DIESELMAN8V92
    @DIESELMAN8V92 2 года назад

    Awesome upgrade thanks again Taryl 😊

  • @snextime
    @snextime 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome fix. Thank you.

  • @brotdw2
    @brotdw2 5 лет назад +1

    You are a BOSS Sir!!! God blessed you!

  • @ddakota05
    @ddakota05 5 лет назад +2

    Damn fine upgrade thanks Taryl!!

  • @trufix72
    @trufix72 5 лет назад +2

    I agree Taryl anyone or some people can fix the problem but a true mechanic needs to know what caused the problem and how to fix it in a better way or think outside the box like you would say

  • @earlwright3613
    @earlwright3613 5 лет назад +18

    Funniest channel on the entire interscreen

    • @duaneantor9157
      @duaneantor9157 5 лет назад

      WTH is an interscreen?

    • @earlwright3613
      @earlwright3613 5 лет назад

      @@duaneantor9157 it's what Taryl Daktil calls the internet. He calls it that Everytime!

  • @Evilslayer73
    @Evilslayer73 5 лет назад

    another miracle from Taryls the great!

  • @garagedweller7159
    @garagedweller7159 5 лет назад +1

    Another good video Taryl. Thanks!

  • @ironriver1836
    @ironriver1836 5 лет назад

    Mustie1 and Steve cameo makes my day.

  • @richardprice7836
    @richardprice7836 5 лет назад +2

    I'm into the vintage lawn and garden tractors do you have any videos on them. I love your videos and skits also. Now make me some dinner.

    • @gregolson5532
      @gregolson5532 5 лет назад

      He has dozens of them!

    • @richardprice7836
      @richardprice7836 5 лет назад

      @@gregolson5532 where can they be found

    • @gregolson5532
      @gregolson5532 5 лет назад

      @@richardprice7836 In his channel. Click his emblem or channel name (Taryl fixes all) to access all his video's. He has video's on kohler K/onan/B&S opposed/Techumseh too many to list.

    • @richardprice7836
      @richardprice7836 5 лет назад

      @@gregolson5532 thanks mr Olson I'll check them out Gotta love the old iron

  • @neilmiller6405
    @neilmiller6405 2 года назад

    Taryl I can't get roller cage 9002 to fit right because of grease fitting blocking. If I take out fitting it works. Can l leave it out after greasing and just cover hole with black plastic cover so dirt doesn't get in. l have a Craftsman 42 inch deck 22hp. Thanks again for your video.

  • @viewer54322
    @viewer54322 3 года назад

    Taryl and crew are #1

  • @deanie228
    @deanie228 5 лет назад

    My bf has a mower repair shop. I feel that if I wore Taryl apparel I'd be cheating on him. But I want some damn Taryl Apparel! :) Great channel!!

  • @dadefope80
    @dadefope80 5 лет назад +6

    @14:09 I just spit out a mouthful of coffee!

  • @R.N.GPerformance
    @R.N.GPerformance 5 лет назад +1

    you got it. have to think outside the shop.

  • @timmygilbert1371
    @timmygilbert1371 5 лет назад

    You are like fine wine Taryl , ya get better an better . lmao

  • @ClockFixer
    @ClockFixer 5 лет назад +1

    For a minute, I thought I'd like to work in your shop.......but then quickly realized I'd DIE LMAO......!

  • @roberthachtel835
    @roberthachtel835 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much for this video! Can't wait to see if this works for my Sears craftsman exellerator.

  • @donraabe3529
    @donraabe3529 5 лет назад +3

    That’s going to work great on the front of my race mowers 👍

    • @EP1CNELSON
      @EP1CNELSON 5 лет назад

      if ya going high speed, probably want to use a wheel hub

  • @wildefox1478
    @wildefox1478 5 лет назад

    Great episode as always Taryl, keep'em comin'!

  • @charlesbranham875
    @charlesbranham875 4 года назад

    Great idea. I have a Craftsman rider that's wore out. Thank you for the video... Awesome knowledge... Big corporate must love you... Lol...

  • @roystheboy
    @roystheboy 5 лет назад

    Nice one Taryl and gang another good episode

  • @aldricracette4813
    @aldricracette4813 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video great content

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 5 лет назад

    That's a slick repair. I'll keep it in mind when my JD gets worn to that point.

  • @charlesmayer7097
    @charlesmayer7097 5 лет назад +5

    Very informative video! Great subject on the comedy end as well. 😂😂😂

  • @97Intruder
    @97Intruder 5 лет назад

    Haha...great video, and I was in the new Taryl Apparel store.....and bought my apparel.....now there's yer dinner....

  • @neilmiller6405
    @neilmiller6405 2 года назад

    Hey Taryl should grease be used with roller cage bearing 9002 when used in between conversion bushing to bearing kit? Nice video. Thanks neil

  • @berniesmith1991
    @berniesmith1991 5 лет назад

    Thanks brother from another mother!

  • @evans1946
    @evans1946 2 года назад

    Great video, much better solutions then that kit that's all over online with the cheap bearings. My OCD did flare up when Taryl skipped cleaning all the dirt off the spindle and wheel before he slipped on the expensive cage bearing.

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 4 года назад

    My dinner has been received. Thanks a Taryl!

  • @kennycybertron1
    @kennycybertron1 5 лет назад +1

    I love when Taryl mocks the folks who ask all the dumb questions....some of those questions seem really wacky but you know some knucklehead actually ask it.

  • @pyromedichd1
    @pyromedichd1 5 лет назад +2

    If sand is the problem then what you need is an inner and outer seal to go with your bearings, or sealed, not shielded bearings.

  • @mattclark5480
    @mattclark5480 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks tayrl 👍

  • @gaden002
    @gaden002 5 лет назад +6

    Yup, that's "Thinking outside the shop", Taryl.

  • @jasonmushersee
    @jasonmushersee 5 лет назад +3

    yeah they don't think outside the shop. i took my mcculloch 610 chainsaw in for a new 20" bar guy said "we don't stock parts for something that old". there was a oregon bar hanging on the wall behind him!

  • @billrook6165
    @billrook6165 3 года назад

    There for a second, I thought Taryl was going to use a "Flat Bastard" file. But, I was happy to see he chose the "Half Round SOB" instead. LOL

  • @markoaks8694
    @markoaks8694 4 года назад

    Kyle should contact a Hollywood agent. He is a very versatile actor!

  • @LIMowersAndMore
    @LIMowersAndMore 5 лет назад +5

    First and I did a bearing upgrade on the mud mower worked better the the regular spindle crap!

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 5 лет назад +1

      Yup same.
      But I upgraded to toro wheels I got off eBay , they take a 1.75 od bearing over the 1 3/8 standard wheels and you can get some beefy bearings for em.

    • @LIMowersAndMore
      @LIMowersAndMore 5 лет назад +1

      MrHillfolk yeah your tractor sounds beautiful with that twin!

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 5 лет назад +1

      @@LIMowersAndMore
      Hey thanks for watching man.
      That was a 49 cube (810cc) I put together from a generator that got overheated and moved a guide.
      I swapped in my 40 rods and wristpins (saved 30 grams a side) and used my 40 crank because it wasn't tapered on the end.
      40/44/49 all have the same stroke.
      Then I looked around a little and saw they had a 30hp spec 49, so I got an oem carb , ported the heads and opened the baffles in the muffler a little.
      She's a runner now , I'm not used to it yet!

    • @LIMowersAndMore
      @LIMowersAndMore 5 лет назад

      MrHillfolk that’s awesome guess you had it easy with the mods I still got to mod my vtwin she’s tired but I got new rings for it might put them on Friday get it done.

  • @tird108
    @tird108 5 лет назад

    Very informative love your videos was sick from work so I'm sitting here sipping whiskey coke enjoying the hell outta your videos

  • @ernestlewis2968
    @ernestlewis2968 5 лет назад

    Love this show

  • @kerrygleeson4409
    @kerrygleeson4409 5 лет назад +1

    Alway interesting thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺

  • @scottneff1030
    @scottneff1030 5 лет назад

    Nice, is their a retrofit for a husqvarna YTA24V48 to take the front bushings to bearings

  • @fungunfanatic
    @fungunfanatic 5 лет назад

    I'm a cheap bastard, I keep making smaller bushings to fit inside the original bushing, I think I have 3 bushings on it now. Eventually I'll have to replace the dwindling arm, when I do replace the arm I will 100% do this from the get go. Great vidja, thanks Taryl!

  • @boB7710II
    @boB7710II 5 лет назад +1

    It's not the space shuttle. Its going to be better than the space shuttle!🚀👍

  • @JoseVasquez-rw4lo
    @JoseVasquez-rw4lo 5 лет назад +1

    Great video!!!

  • @georgehofgren6123
    @georgehofgren6123 2 года назад

    I want to do this on my Simplicty to handle the heavy weight i put in the front (johnny) Bucket.... But i'm pretty sure the spindles on the higher end riders are heavier (thicker) so those bearings won't fit. Great idea though, especially for anyone mounting a snow blower, which is also a bunch of weight on those spindles. For anyone who just wants to make life easier for themselves, esp on a newer machine... just add any sort of weight to the Back of the machine (like snowblower counter weights, or any homemade thing) and that take significant weight off those front wheels, preserving your bearings, etc. AND it'll make it much easier to steer, so you can put a spinner knob on a steer one handed to be comfortable, or drink your lawn beverage 👍~

  • @TheLegend-gt2fv
    @TheLegend-gt2fv 2 года назад +1

    Caged beartng setup...what grease fittings
    ??.... craftsman lt 1500...I'm sure you know the grease fittings are too long and will hit the caged bearing...I was thinking back it out and thread lock it...or change fittings???...

    • @TheLegend-gt2fv
      @TheLegend-gt2fv 2 года назад

      Not sure if you reply...just wondering??..

  • @gregorypierce6703
    @gregorypierce6703 5 лет назад

    Great update! The mower will likely wear out before the wheel bearings will granted they are properly lubricated. 😉

  • @davidwellman7080
    @davidwellman7080 3 года назад

    I need help!! I have a 03 Craftsman gt5000. The deck sets on the ground I can't adjust it has the dial on the left side I can turn back and forth but it doesn't do anything. It has a little piece of plastic on the left side like a window u can remove it. I've tried everything but the deck won't move it

  • @REVNUMANEWBERN
    @REVNUMANEWBERN 5 лет назад +1

    I ONLY use the plastic bushings now, at least they will NOT wear out damage the spindles, haven't had a plastic bearing fail yet in 2 years of Florida sand

  • @tomdale1313
    @tomdale1313 5 лет назад +1

    Taryl i have a old snapper propel lawn mower, it has a cast aluminium deck ...how much and what kind of fluid goes in the drive reservoir

  • @johnperez93640
    @johnperez93640 2 года назад

    0:53 wow, i actually remember that beckett. Me and my brother fought for it all the time.

  • @marvinheemeyer9768
    @marvinheemeyer9768 Год назад +1

    12:55- Been funny with Teryls normal music references, if he'd mentioned "rage in the cage" by J Geils band. Lol

  • @gunlover1955
    @gunlover1955 5 лет назад +1

    Dude you are crazzzzy man I like it, lol.

  • @jeffreymyers-iu2gc
    @jeffreymyers-iu2gc 8 месяцев назад

    Great job tarl

  • @georgewallacejr5644
    @georgewallacejr5644 5 лет назад

    Hello buddy good video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏼

  • @danyf3116
    @danyf3116 5 лет назад

    Having owned 2 Craftsman mowers and changed those nasty bearings twice on both. This was the last one I changed until I saw the same bearings shown in the video , on eBay. The difference in contact bearing and ball bearing can't be described. This would have saved the scratch on my car due to wobbly wheels and one falling off.

  • @brentsmith5647
    @brentsmith5647 2 года назад

    Brilliant people ♥️👁️👍

  • @breakerbroke23
    @breakerbroke23 5 лет назад +1

    Think outside the shop.
    So True

  • @allenchancery2304
    @allenchancery2304 5 лет назад

    Thanks for show

  • @FreedomWon20
    @FreedomWon20 5 лет назад

    I can find the cage bearing, but can not seem to find where I can get the other 2 bearings... can you help sir?

  • @amandagardner565
    @amandagardner565 5 лет назад

    i had to think outside the shop on a 387002x92A Murray Ride on with designed to fail jackshafts, the jackshafts on my mower are from the 387002x92D series, and the jackshaft is unavailable separately, replacement is for the entire assembly (1001709 Housing, Jackshaft), the step that the two bearings sit on is only 1mm bigger than the ID of the bearing, so very weak. the jackshafts that should have been on my mower (092849 Jackshaft) have 2 different size bearings
    i took the replacement housings apart and got a local machinery place to bore out a length of steel water pipe and locktite it on the jackshafts, been going great for 9 years now without a problem.
    i bought a $280 identical mower on ebay 10 years back, so i could have a spare deck (before i thought of the fix above), the found it was misdiagnosed by the service shop, i assembled the transmission they stripped down, then replaced the seized idler pulley (actual fault) repaired the damaged seat and replaced the seat cut out switch, did the above jackshaft repair and i had a second mower for $350 AUD, not bad considering i paid $2400 for the original one in 2004.

  • @sntruck
    @sntruck 2 года назад

    Hey what about cub cadet slt1550 trying to find out what size bearings to order now the axle is according to specs. 750 Dia. So the front rim should be 1.000 id don't want to order the wrong size

  • @manuscus6289
    @manuscus6289 5 лет назад +1

    Laughed so hard it was great !

  • @jotu173
    @jotu173 8 месяцев назад

    @tarylfixesall 1) How important is it that the cage bearing fits the length of the hub and width of the cylinder snugly? In other words, if the length is a little short or maybe the OD is a little less, will this still work and 2) would you do it that way or not? I am considering adapting this idea to a 1995 Exmark Viking 48" (front spindle wheels).

  • @AwosAtis
    @AwosAtis 2 года назад

    I'm not so sure this is an upgrade. I just ordered a spindle/bearing kit for my LA145. Thinking about the bearings though, if they don't last the life of the mower, when they fail they will fail catastrophically whereas the OEM bushing will be subject to "graceful degradation" and not leave me stranded in the middle of the yard with crunchy bearings. When I receive my kit, I'll purchase bushings to replace the bearings.

  • @richarddietz6145
    @richarddietz6145 5 лет назад +2

    I had the same problem with my John Deere spindle was half worn through fixed it with a welder an some time an work