5 Maritime Disasters (That Aren't the Titanitc)
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Not sure I you have noticed this and I'm not trying to be an arse but you spelled Titanic wrong
Please provide solid proof of all your claims.
I suggest looking into the tragedies of the Arctic and the Atlantic lads. Not as many folk perished but, well you'll see. Especially if you research the Arctic.
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@@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883God damnit! You beat me to it.
Same
If you do another of these, the South Korean Ferry disaster was tragic and criminally mismanaged. kids sat with cell phones calling their parents goodbye, while waiting for instructions from a crew and captain who'd already fled.
That'd be the _MV Sewall_ . None of the cargo, including vehicles, were secured, and the ballasts were practically empty to reduce fuel costs. The helmsman was informed never to turn by more than 5 degrees, but clearly they did. The ship developed a list, which was aggravated by shifting cargo, making it quickly pass the point of no return, and then capsize. What makes it worse is that there was practically no rescue effort, only to extract those who appeared on deck, and the government denied access to foreign ships who offered aid. The government also told the public that rescue efforts had been made and completed, but parents had their children's accounts of events through their cellphones, so they knew the truth. The truth was that, similar to _Costa Concordia_ 's captain, _Sewall_ 's captain and bridge crew had abandoned ship almost right away. The best and bravest rescue efforts were done by a pair of teachers who had been aboard. Tragically, they went back one time too many, and were trapped and died. Government stalled investigation and clean-up for a year so the Statute of Limitations could come into affect, however they came under fire for other matters of corruption anyway.
While _Sewall_ didn't lose nearly as many people as _Dona Paz_ and _Vector_ , the tragedy nevertheless stands out starkly because most of the passengers were high school students out for a regular weekly trip.
Rotten Mango did a fantastic episode on it. Highly recommend.
@@BNuts unsecured load came up in the report but in the weather they were operating IF the load and ballast had been properly configured it wouldn't have been an issue. ROPAX ferries commonly run without lashing every vehicle down as in most conditions they operate simply making sure the parking break is on and the vehicle is in gear is enough. ROPAX I worked would lash heavier vehicle in the center if there was going to be a bit of weather and resort to everything lashed if we were getting into stuff above force 7. We were type rated to force 9 which is touching full storm force but we were WPC fast craft. Around same size as Sewol(4200t) but catamaran instead of conventional so silly stable in the water. Ship of Sewol size and type in UK would probably be rated to force 7 weather.
As for the ballast configuration they were running with, it wasn't just to save fuel. It's a nastier and greedier practice. The more load a ship takes on the more ballast they should be pumping in to keep center of gravity as low as possible. The heavier the ship is the lower in the water she sits. Overload a ship and it becomes obvious from the key side that she's to low in the water so what these feckers were doing was pump ballast OUT as they load so she doesn't sit so low in the water. They were trying to hide they were grossly overloaded. They screwed the stability and seakeeping so much a simple turn was enough to have her list beyond a point of recovery. It boggles my mind any crew would take a ship configured that poorly out and there is no way the bridge, deck and even the engineers wouldn't know the configuration of their own ship.
The Edmund Fitzgerald is the only shipwreck I ever learned about from a song.*
*a really great song btw. RIP Gordon
Yes, it is truly a masterpiece.
I grew up with a similar song about Titanic. I don't think there is an English version, unfortunately but in my opinion this is also masterful: ruclips.net/video/Ljwwx03h5Gw/видео.html
“All that remains is faces and names of the wives and the sons and the daughters”
Another memorial to the Estonia tragedy is located on Djurgården, the museum area in Stockholm. It's just three concrete slabs in a triangle, with a tree in the middle. It's bleak and claustrophobic, and the sheer number of names is absolutely heartbreaking.
As a kid, I went on a cruise from Turku, Finland to Stockholm on the Viking Sally, which was their oldest ship at the time. Viking sold the ship to Wasa Lines, and it served as a ferry between Umeå, Sweden and Vaasa, Finland. Did that trip as well, but never got on it when it was named Estonia. BTW, there were/are some conspiracy theories about the Estonia sinking. Those have not been proven, of course, but there still are some unanswered questions about the accident. They have re-opened the investigation, and it's still ongoing.
As a guy from the PH
Im glad the MV Dona Paz is recognized, it is literally the most dangerous and worst maritime accident during peace times.
Whats worse is, the company "Sulpicio" had another incident way back in 2008 which only 31 of the 800 plus passengers survived due to their ship capsizing due to heavy storm
Its the worst period.. Wilhelm Gustlof doesn't count. Glad Suspicios Lines can't carry passengers anymore.
Still I don't trust em with cargo either.
@@chdreturns "Doesn't count"...?
You mean because it was in wartime right? (oh and fun fact it's basically the only ship that russian submarines managed to sink during WW2)
@@Kvomii Well yeah, the OP said "worst maritime accident during peace times." The Wilhelm Gustlof was sunk during WWII, so doesn't count in that specific description.
Cool fun fact. That one's pretty interesting.
Sir, the Dona Paz wasnt on frigid waters. Many Filipinos are swimmers and the waters are warm and tropical. The problem was that the all the water around the Vector and Dona Paz was ablaze due to the explosion and the leaking oil from the Vector. Most of the 26 survivors were badly burned from jumping into the flaming sea. (Yes, 45 out of over 4000)
Pretty sure there were also sharks. But the fire was a greater threat.
Oceanliner Designs has a brilliant animation of the Empress of Ireland sinking in real time as well as a documentary of the disaster. Probably one of the best out there.
Great channel
The soldiers and nurses who were onboard the HMHS Britannic were incredibly lucky compared to those who were on the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, the RMS Empress of Ireland, the RMS Titanic and SS Edmund Fitzgerald. At least the sea was (Relatively warm) and calm at the time of the sinking. The Titanic and Empress both sank in the cold waters of the North Atlantic (Very close to the North Atlantic in the case of the Empress), The Gustloff sank on a particularly cold Winter night in the Baltic, and the Fitz went down in an absolutely appalling storm during November in Lake Superior......All horrifically cold, and anyone who wasn't in tip top physical shape wouldn't stand a chance! Survival from the sinking of the Fitz was a zero chance situation! Wasn't even safe to launch rescue boats!
They did find lifeboats from the Edmund Fitzgerald... in pieces.
Old sailors *still* talk about that storm on the Great Lakes.
The particular " Luck " regarding the sinking of Britannic was the fact that it was on its way to pick up wounded soldiers from the Gallipoli campaign
If it had happened on the way back Ther would have been thousands of soldiers on bord and most of the unable to help them selves or others for that matter
That would have been an disaster on par with willhelm gustloff
Not to take away from what happened to the people on bord when it happened but the outcome could have been much worse
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@@yvindwestersund9720 It could have happened SO easily that it was on the way back too. Just a purely random event rather than a targeted attack. Pure luck being the difference between 30 casualties and potentially 3000+
@@24934637 and your point is what?
I do believe I stated that it was a "LUCK " that it happened on its way to and not on the home journey
By " LUCK " I mean that it could just as easily happen on its way back
I thought that was evident by the wording
The Estonia dissaster is stil an open wound in Sweden/Finland/Estonia with diffrent groups stil waiting for answer to what happend that night. They will do new dives at the accident site in the coming month to try to get a final answer.
thank you for including the Wilhelm Gustlav. SO MANY people ignore it out right due to its association with the nazis. but MOST of the PEOPLE on it were not nazis and did NOT deserve to die.
The entire Rape of Ostprueßen doesn't get the attention it deserves. My father dated a Königsberg survivor after my mother died. I was history student at the time and wanted to hear her story. It's not pretty.
HMT Lancastria went down with between 5000 to 7000 souls off St Nazaire in the aftermath of Dunkirk. After being bombed by Nazi planes. Didn't even get a mention & was the worst British Maritime disasters.
Still not well known as was made classified by Churchill. People are still trying to shine a light on her loss to this day.
God rest their souls
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To be fair the Lancastria was a valid military target evacuating active and able military personnel.
@@richardmann145 doesnt count, military target and NOT a hospital ship. If we count that one we'd have to count every post-dreadnought battleship.
@@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 as was Wilhelm Gustloff - armed with AA guns and with over 1k soldiers on board.
Another story is SS Cap Arcona - intel suggested, that nazi leadership was trying to escape to Norway so allies bombed it as well as SS Thielbek and SS Deutschland. Planes even strafed survivors trying to swim to shore with cannons. Unfrotunately those ships weren't full of nazis, but evacuated concentration camp prisioners of which 5k from Cap Arcona and 2k from Thielback lost their life. It happened 1 day before germans surrendered.
Very pleased to see Estonia get a mention. I work in Stockholm harbour, and for a long time we worked regularly with MS Mariella, the first ship to respond to the sinking; she now sails in the Med for Corsica Ferries.
One interesting thing I have noticed is the difference between how roro/passenger ferries load and unload their garages in different parts of the world. For example, in Northern Europe, it seems to be common practice that ships unload and load from their bow. Here in Greece and generally in the Mediterranean, ships always do that from their stern. I generally don't understand the use of bow visors, you generally want your bow to be the strongest part of the ship, putting a huge door there seems to contrast that sentiment. And unloading from the stern is generally easier and faster because the stern is generally wider that the bow.
@nickklavdianos5136 Typically Nordic ferries have stern ramps *as well*; the idea is that they can use both ends to optimise loading and unloading.
The old (lifting) style of bow visor, used on Estonia, is considered unsafe and antiquated; modern ferries instead use split side-opening visors that actually become more secure with wave action.
@@awmperry I know, many Mediterranean ferries also have split side opening visors, they just never use them. And well, there are a lot of older Nordic ferries that end up in the Mediterranean. Rosella recently came here in Greece, and the Italians seem very happy to buy ships like the Gabriella.
@nickklavdianos5136 Yup. Mariella and Amorella - two of the boats I used to work with - went down to Corsica in the last year or two. Sorry to see them go, but they do look really good in yellow.
Kind of funny that so many ice-classed vessels end up retiring to the Med, though. Can't really blame them. 😆
@@awmperry well, figured that after all the ice and cold they endured, they're due a nice holiday in warm weather.
I am glad you mentioned the Empress of Ireland. The worst part about that disaster is that it happened so close to shore.
And in only 15 minutes too.
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"That Aren't the Titanitc" Spellcheck Simon, spellcheck lol
For Estonians the sinking is still a very sad tragedy considering the country’s small population compared to other countries so basically everyone knows someone who died on the ship. My dads wife lost her brother on the ship. That’s why my dad used to get me and my brother to find the exit quickly with the lights off as practice every time we on a ship to Finland or Sweden just in case. IT’s memory that still haunts the country
Practice makes perfect
My father, Steven w shultz, and his 32 crew mates, died in the wreck of the El faro, a roll on roll off cargo ship, October 2015. The captain had bad weather data, and even though my father, the first mate, and two other mates asked him if he planned to change course, he sailed the ship right into a cat 3 hurricane, known as hurricane Joaquin. It was such an avoidable tragedy. While my father will be known as a hero for his efforts to save the ship and crew, the loss was devastating. Keep doing what you do Simon. Love your work. Thanks for this one 🙏⚓
Too often we focus on those few more popular stories like the Titanic or the Titan submersible, forgetting so easily about hundreds and thousands lost on poor passenger ferries like the Dona Paz and le Joola, or the SS Eastland disaster. So nice to see and I hope you cover more!
Please do a second, and maybe even more, on this subject. As the host of another channel I like says, "Its history that deserves to be remembered."
Thank you for including the Empress of Ireland, a horrific story that's not told anywhere near as much as it should be
I have sailed on MS Sally when I was a kid . It wasnt build for open sea, it was build to navigate in cover of finnish archipelago . Its also a stage of one of the most brutal and unsolved murder case of Finland .
In 255 BC the Roman fleet was devastated by a storm while returning from Africa, with 384 ships sunk from a total of 464 and 100,000 men lost.
Now that is a maritime disaster.
That's nothing compared to kublais Invasion of japan with 4,400 ships and 140.000+ personnel in which 80 percent of those ships were destroyed by a typhoon called kamikaze( divine wind)
4:21 "Jump into the icy water" in the Philippines!?! Where the minimum seawater temp. of the year is 25.5C (78.9F). Not sure I want to experience what Simon would describe as balmy! :)
This video makes me think you should do a video on the so-called "graveyard of the Pacific" off the coast of Oregon and Washington State. There's some interesting shipwrecks over there
Ah yes... the famous Titanitc. Sister ship of the Olympitc and Brittanitc. Jewels of the White Start Linte.
You would think they proofread.. or even just read the comments 😂
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I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Halifax disaster. It was a munitions ship requisitioned to go to Europe during WW1, got hit by an impatient and unpleasant captain of a ferry and detonated with the largest non-nuclear explosion until WW2. It completely leveled Halifax and killed the most civilians of a non-European city in the entirety of WW1
There are so many maritime disasters to choose from. 😢
Simon likes topics he can repeat, especially if they get views. I'm sure they'd be willing to do a part two because as you say, so many.
I wouldn't consider Halifax to be a big one because it was an industrial accident and not a shipwreck. He's mentioned it in other disaster videos.
He has covered it before, but unfortunately I don't remember on which channel
@@KW-qd1bilooks like it's sideprojects that he covered it on.
Thanks for mentioning the Wilhelm Gustlof and the Britannic. The Gustlof is forgotten by most people because it was a German ship in the last year of WW2. However, many people onboard at the time of sinking were just regular people who were trying to escape the horrors of war
As for the Britannic: Unless you're a ship enthusiast, you've probably never heard of this ship because of it's more famous sister ship, Titanic
I'm not a ship enthusiast and I've heard of the Britannic. I've done a lot of research about the ship and learned about the sinking that happened. I have to say the Britannic's design was pretty impressive imo.
@@Infinite-void908 Yeah but the average person probably wouldn't have heard of it. You have to be at least somewhat interested in history to know about these forgotten events
@@oliversherman2414 I love history and all aspects about it. History is my favorite subject in school and I do study forgotten events that happened in history out of curiosity and to understand their significance. I know it sounds like I'm bragging but I'm just being honest. Also I think that the story of the Wilhelm Gustloff needs to be brought up more to the general public, but you did have a point as to why the incident with the ship is mostly forgotten about which is really sad.
@@Infinite-void908 Cool. I used to take history as one of my GCSE's in secondary school, but it wasn't till after I left school and I started watching history videos on RUclips that my internet rose
The sinking of The Princess Sophia on Vanderbilt Reef would have been horrific. Running aground and just sitting there before finally sinking. Giving its passengers plenty of time to think about their situation and to see rescue vessels just out of reach. The only survivor was a dog.
Also the sinking of The Sultana on the Mississippi. Heavily overloaded with returning Union soldiers some of them freed from prison camps. A boiler exploded ignited an inferno.
How do you sink if you've "run aground"?
@@mmaxx6786 The waves and tide during a storm tore it off the reef shredding the hull.
Will never forget the sinking of Estonia. As Estonia (the country) is so small, almost everyone knew someone who lost someone at that day.
I have never heard of the Titanitc,, is she a Polish cruise ship? When did she go down?
Submarine with a screen door, I believe.
The real horror of the Wilhelm Gustloff is, that in recent years even the very high estimated death toll calculated after the war has been recalculated, based on witness accounts of survivors about ppl cramped into every nook and corner and ship schematics. The official death toll was 5,348, but it was later estimated to be as much as 9,000. The new results, however, are even higher, most likely there were 12,000-12,500 ppl on board.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Lucona. The ship that brought down the government of a landlocked nation
I'm surprised that the biggest tragedy in modern maritime history. The Sewol ferry was the most heartbreaking things I've seen a country face and deserves to have it's story told
If you are interested the Brick Immortar channel did a 2 part deep dive into this tragedy and the mismanagement surrounding it. If you haven't watched it yet, I highly recommend it. I get so angry thinking about the horrors the victims and their families were put through.
Ah yes. Who doesn’t remember the Titanitc
I'm surprised you didn't mention the steamboat Sultana. A combination of overcrowding, greed, and poor maintenance led to 1,167 mostly paroled soldiers from both the North and South following the US Civil War died when the poorly patched boiler exploded on April 27th, 1865
Ahh yes, I listened about that one on the dork-o-motive podcast. Very interesting (and sad) story.
@@Deuce1550 I saw a documentary about the Sultana a few years ago. Yes, very sad and largely forgotten about
I read about the Sultana and General Slocum growing up and it's what finally extinguished any belief in a "god" or higher power.
Emaciated POWs who had endured extreme torture and had finally been allowed to leave appalling conditions only to be blown or burned to death when they were finally released?
combined with:
Families on a church outing burned to death, drowned in shallow waters, or barely escaped only to be robbed/looted and murdered by their supposed "rescuers"?
Yeah, that's a no from me.
Sadly, while virtually every Canadian adult is at least somewhat aware of the Titanic disaster, very few are familiar with The Empress of Ireland. I guess that there weren’t enough celebrities and millionaires on board and it went down too quickly to provide sufficient time for drama.
No it's because WW1 started a bit after the sinking of the Empress of Ireland that's why not many people knows. I went to see the Museum in 2014 in Pointe-au-Père near Rimouski, Province of Quebec Canada
@@anickmartin9795 That’s why it was largely forgotten at the time but doesn’t explain why it continues today.
@@robertpearson8798 I know I have never forgot the Empress of Ireland and you should visit the Museum
One disaster i know of which didn't have a large death toll but a massive impact on the villages that it was returning men to was the Iolair which in 1919 sunk when bringing soldiers who survived the war back to their homes this was to an island off the north west coast of Scotland which sunk after hitting rocks at night very close to the harbour a large proportion of the men died as they where asleep when it crashed and sunk killing many leaving many villages with little able bodied men as most died in the war or they sinking.
Loving your channel, Simon. This is better than anything that can be seen on TV.
For the future videos, I think the acute situation on the Mediterranian Sea with the refugees and migrants dying constantly in large numbers because of the greed of smugglers and the cruelty of the EU coastal nations’ policies deserves a chapter aswell. The UN has estimated more than 20 000 migrants have drowned in the Mediterranian Sea since 2014.
No mention of the countries of whom these immigrant refugees are fleeing from? I think these countries need their fair share of criticism for starting this problem.
I was waiting to hear about the Sewol tragedy off the coast of South Korea ten years back or so.. That was so tragic, with the majority of victims being high school students. 😢
I wrote this in reply to another comment but I'll say it again. If you haven't seen Brick Immortar's 2-part series on this horrific tragedy yet, I recommend it. But please prepare yourself. I had to take breaks to compose myself, especially during part 2.
The Dona Paz has to be the worst. Everyone burned to death. Even the survivors were all burned.
13 century Mongol invasion of Japan with more than 4,400 ships and 140.000 men in which 80 percent of that fleet is estimated to have been destroyed by a typhoon called kamikaze( divine wind). By far the largest maritime disaster.
Finally someone talks about the Gustloff! A disaster that not many know or remember today!
Never forget the loss of the ship Orca off Amity Island in 1975. The boat wasn't big enough.
Ah, yes, the “Titanitc”…sunk by an “icebertg”…
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The Empress of Ireland was part of the Clive Cussler book "Night Probe".
The new digs are looking excellent Rory! Looking forward to seeing what y’all do with it.
Great video pal, thanks
Wait; What? The icy waters of the Philippines?
It is a cold day where I am living.But the chill really went down my spine imagining what the unlucky people who ended up in the sea must have experienced.
The MV Doña Paz was carrying so many passengers because it was Christmas season.
this guy has so many channels, i feel like i discover a new one each month
Onomichi! Fun hearing Simon mention the town next door.
The Empress of Ireland continued to claim lives for years after its sinking. Divers were able to reach it, and many went inside, only to lose their way as their oxygen tanks ran out. I think there are now laws preventing divers from diving down to it, but the last footage from inside the ship included images of the skeletal remains of divers who found their way in, but couldn't find their way out. 😱
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
Maybe OceanGate is standing back and standing by to offer tours.
Despite the fact that I think it was a careless and irresponsible choice they made, that’s still an awful way to go. I thought in those types of diving situations they run a rope from where they entered and all along their route so they could then backtrack out when they’re finished?
I still remember the day Estonia sank. My sister worked at the estline HQ when it sank. 😢
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Oh, that must have been incredibly tough.
I remember waking up that morning to the regular news and being so tired that i took me e a while to realize that all I heard was one long mootone voice talking about something, not the short news segements you usually heard. But I couldn't comprehend what the voice was talking about. It was just utfathomable. So, after a quick shower I went out to the TV room in the dorm and turned on the TV. I still couldn't understand what was happening. The next hour my seven dorm mates all woke up and joined me on the sofa. It was a three seater but we somehow sat and lay on top of each other, all staring at the TV screen in silence. Then one of my dorm mates began crying.
We didn't know it then, but Uppsala was the city who lost most people in the disaster, and for over a month afterwards all you heard in central Uppsala was the toll from the church bells to the many, many funerals (or rather, memorial services), day after day. It was eerie.
And yes, some of the victims were people I knew.
@@swedishmeatball4382 it was a dark day for many people 😭😭
@@swedishmeatball4382 hahagagaga
@@oscarellenius2007 hahagahaha
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I just knew that Doña Paz would be covered. It's nothing short of tragic, what happened on that night. May those people rest in peace.
My next door neighbour growing up, were two lovely nurses. They'd served in The Queen Alexander's Nursing Service, during WW2. Anyway to cut a very long story short, the hospital ship they were working on, was sunk about ten in the morning, they were in convoy, so they were picked up by another ship in the convoy. About two hours later they were sunk again. I believe this happened in The Mediterranean.
I know some one who missed the Estonia due to a faulty alarm clock and had to take a later ferry.
My step grandfather was doing his military service on the island of Gotland during WWII. Back then there was one daily ferry to and from the island. He had been on leave for a few days but was due back to his regiment together with the rest of said regiment. On the way he and his friends got a flat tire on their car, and back then things like auto shops and gas stations were closed on Sundays so it took them a few hours to fix it. Thus, they missed the ferry by five minutes and knew that they were in deep dodo as they were going to be almost a day late to return after their leave, They could end up in the slammer for that.
The next they they hopped on to the ferry and returne dto their regiment, expecting to be arrested. Instead the colonel hugged them and cried when he saw them.
Hansa, the ferry they SHOULD have been on, had been hit by a torpedo. Only one person, the company owner, survived. My step grandpa and his friends were the only men left in the regiment. The colonel were just happy that there were survivors even though they only survived because they missed the ill fated ferry.
What timing with this video, just yesterday a new expedition set out to explore MS Estonia.
You can also hear the tragic and eerie last mayday calls from the ship on YT..
A Nurse was on the Titantic and made it to a life boat. She was then on the Britantic when it hit the mine and she again was rescued. Later on she would be on a third ship that sank and she again got off alive and she continued to serve on ships until her retirement.
There is a video with the radio communications between the Estonia and the rescue ships and later between the rescue ships. It's chilling, yet incredibly inspiring to hear the amazing work the captains of the nearby ferries did to save the people on the Estonia.
This is why I don't do boats. My car breaks down? I get out and everything is fine.
A ship breaks down? It gets towed to a nearby port. A ship sinking is the equivalent of your car crashing at high speed. You probably won't get out from that.
You didn’t mention Violet Jessop with the Britannic. Survived that sinking, the Titanic sinking and the Olympic collision with the British cruiser
I was not expecting to see the Empress of Ireland on this. Thank you
"It was again renamed to the Doña Paz, this time after a small fire-"
I must be tired, because my brain thought they named the ship after the fire for a second there.
Both Titanic and Empress of Ireland sinkings where the startting point of Clive Cussler novels.
Few things about Estonia; she was after being in Viking Lines traffic as Viking Sally, in Silja Lines traffic as Silja Star and after that in Wasa Line traffic as Wasa King before becoming Estonia.
Viking Sally was initially designed for coastal/archipelago traffic as there are no much of open sea between (Turku and) Mariehamn and Stockholm. So she really wasn't designed for harsh open sea conditions of Baltic sea.
Her bow ramp design was like that when shut/lift up, part of it folded inside of a box housing on the bow visor. As the visor fell off, it teared the ramp open with it.
Other old Viking Lines ship, Diana 2, shared her bow visor and ramp construction with Viking Sally. Diana 2 also suffered heavy damage to its bow visor (locks) before Estonia , but this incident apparently was not deemed noteworthy to do anything to other ships.
Wahine disaster in New Zealand is also worth a mention.
Or the Waratah. Vanished without a trace.
can you do a longer, more in-depth video on the MS estonia?
If you like listening to podcasts and learning about maritime disasters, i recommend ship hits the fan. They also try to have some humour in it when they can to keep it a bit lighter and less depressing when they can, while also being respectful towards the victims. Really recommend people to give it a try if this is your cup of tea 😁
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Still havent caught onto it either
Hey Simon
Please put this out as a podcast
A memorial honoring the victims of Dona Paz is at the Pieta Park in Catbalogan. Located at adjacent to St. Bartholomew Church and Saint Mary's College of Catbalogan, the park now serves as a public space for families and friends of the victims.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee. Probably deserves an episode of it's own if you haven't already.
The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy...
I've actually never heard of the Titanitc. lol
"the front fell off" - inspired by the MS Estonia
The life insurance sponsor on a maritime disaster vid is crazy
“You got Sally and you got Sue And I got a Chevrolet”- I love my truck.
Yep if you didn't know any better you would think the Titanic was the only ship that ever sink in recorded history. Well I guess not every maritime disasters can have a blockbuster movie made about them.
Largely because it lit a fire under everyone's asses.
The Titanic 's fame comes from promoting itself as being unsinkable... then sinking om its first journey , the irony makes it famous
Maritime disaster synonymous with the Titanic? Clearly Simon has not listened to Gordon Lightfoot
Sulpicio Lines is known for having for having lost 4 passenger liners, last one was 2008, the government finally revoked their license to carry passengers in 2015
The M/V Estonia’s car ramp was slightly too large for the well it was in. Most likely when the visor separated it caught on the end of the ramp and pulled he latter open.
Had some hope that the Iolaire would get a mention. I don't think it is widely known but is one of the most tragic shipwreck stories you'll ever read about
If this does well you could consider doing a whole series or even a channel about ship and plane disasters.
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The Sultana needed a mention, 1,167 fatalities on a river!
Man... I knew all 5 of these ships!
Simon did you say ice water when talking about Dona Paz in the Philippines
Awww, fact boy pitching Life Insurance, all grown up. I love it.
Honestly, each of these deserved their own video. This doesn't really get the scale or feel of any of the listed tragedies.
The sinking of the Cap Arcona, Deutschland and Thielbeck in an allied air raid killed about seven thousand allied prisoners of war.
so much seamen gone in the oceans
I said the same thing when I was 12 in a pool…
To this I can add the gruesome tragedy of RMS Arctic, where the crew escaped during tge sinking with amost all the lifeboats, and the ones that were left were raping the women onboard during the sinking, while the loyal crew werr trying to make a life raft to one of the boats, the rampaging crew and passengers tore it down as they tried to board it... There were countless of brawls and murders, and after the sinking, the blood of people atracted sharks... The water was also very cold
Many keyboard warriors don't count the Gustloff because it was an "enemy ship."
should have mentioned Felicity Ace, with that tragedy of all the lost Lamborghinis, Porsches, Audis, and Bentleys.
Yeah some people call it Asia's Titanic. But more than likely far more died in this disaster in a particularly gruesome way.
I never understood why people say (insert here)'s Titanic. So many worst disaters or about the same disaters from Europe and the rest of the world. It makes it seem like these disaters can't even be their own thing.
@@baronvonjo1929 It's a way of relating something and giving an approximation of scale and impact.
"iPod Killer"
"Modern-day Model T"
etc. etc.
When I was a little girl I read a book by Bob Ballard who found the Titanic called "Ghost Ships: Exploring the World's Greatest Lost Ships that told about the Britannic and the Empress of Ireland among others, and I find both much more interesting than the Titanic. There's also an episode of History Channel's Unsolved History devoted to the Gustloff and it's just fascinating.
"... the most deadly maritime disaster in peacetime that occurred. Today's video is sponsored by..."
Tonal whiplash a bit there lmao.
"Salt to the Sea" by Ruta Sepetys is based on Wilhelm Gustav. I can recommend this book.
The Gustloff’s escort ships had issues and basically all had to back away from it or dock at nearby harbors. It was late at night and they turned on their lights so a friendly ship could find them nearby, but made it easy for the submarine to spot them. They also chose to go into the deeper submarine water because the other option was more shallow water with lots of sea mines.
Of the passengers it’s estimated a third of them were children as families were trying to save their children from the advancing Russian troops who were hostile towards citizens