The Terrible Disaster of the SS ARCTIC (1854)
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On this channel, we've studied the Titanic, the Lusitania, the Atlantic, Lexington, Swallow, and others. However, the wreck of the Collins Liner SS Arctic in 1854 is the most tragic, shocking, and shameful maritime ordeals I've yet to cover. This story is not for the faint of heart.
After departing Liverpool and approaching the coast of Newfoundland en route for New York, the SS Arctic was struck by the French steamship Vesta, tearing open her side, and leading to a terrible calamity aboard both vessels, where most men turned to cowards and villains while only a few rose to be the heroes the situation called for.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
0:34 - The Arctic and the Collins Line
2:28 - The Voyage
5:59 - The Collision
8:55 - Inspecting the Damage
12:02 - Mad Dash for Land
15:17 - Evacuation and Mutiny
20:46 - Building the Raft
24:10 - The Arctic Founders
27:13 - Rescue
31:30 - The Aftermath and Conclusion
3D Ocean design by Michael at 3d-illusions.co.uk/
Fantastic re-telling of this story. I haven't heard of it until now and it's pretty shocking. Thanks for shedding some much needed light on a an often not talked about era of shipping!
Hey it's you! Really big fan of you BSF, Didn't know you watched Part-Time Explorer!
So glad you made this comment. I've watched BSF for years.. no doubt your engagement here helped this channel find its way into my feed of suggested videos.
Well if it isn't another one of my favorite history/story channels.
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This story is the epitome of "but wait, it gets worse"
Sounds like my life story lol 😂
Have you heard "Ask a Mortician" channel telling the story that inspired Moby Dick? So much cannibalism
I like her channel. She has one about Why JFK’s Casket Stayed Closed. Very interesting details following the assassination.
But wait ...This really happened in 1959. I was there... I met the son who was sickly at about the age if 15 years. Sounds more impressive if circa 1959. less impressive if known that the ship was set aground on the ice. Trying to attract more viewers for RUclips by changing the story eh?
@@General5USA whut…
Stewart Holland, the young man who stood by his post and continued to fire the signal cannon until the end. Last recorded words were, 'Tell the world at least one man stood by his post.' Mr. Stewart Holland, acted honorably and with great courage in the face of such a horrific scene. Stewart Holland; may his name be remembered 170+ years after his passing as the brave soul who stood by his post in an effort to save others. Much respect.
Everyone would like to think that they'd do what Stewart did. But when all your shipmates decide to abandon their post, it's hard to believe that many, if anyone, would actually stay. Even if it was no use, at least he died a hero.
...and we're still talking about him today. Not sure I can say the same 170 years from now about a Taylor Swift show.
@@robg8203with honour.
@@carlsaganlives6086who's Taylor swift?
@@carlsaganlives6086what's a Taylor and why is it swift?
The fact that he says not a single women or child survived is horrible and shows just how significant the toll of the actions of those selfish men were.
@@spventures9395exactly. So had the men not been selfish and helped instead of hurt it would’ve made all the difference for those women and kids.
@@spventures9395 did we watch the same video?!!! How about not storming the lifeboats??? Not r*ping and literally k*lling women?!! How is any of that survival or actions brought on by fear? Get your head checked.
@@spventures9395 btw, since you didn’t watch the video I’ll add that they stormed the life boats before they were ready and wielded axes at those prepping the boats. Just cowardice and evil on part of those ‘men’. Look at the lady that stuck to her post until the end, the young boy.
@@Boltybleu1978🛵 Rape sucks but it's still ok to write the word.
@@mikethebike2456 no, RUclips blocks comments with certain words from being seen. Just tryna get my comment out there
You warned us, but this was still more gruesome and horrific than I ever could have imagined. A well-told story. Thanks for sharing it.
🛵 Have to agree. Truly a scary story for grown ups.
Truly horrible, much worse than I imagined.
Watch the movies Hostel 1 and 2
That woman deciding the keep running the pump until her body failed her is one of the most heroic and badass things I’ve ever heard. Makes you think about all the unknown heroes of history.
Anna Downer.
Never mind hero's of history the amount of history lost to us is a damn shame we think we have a good grasp but judging by how long we've been on this earth and nearly going extinct even god knows what's been lost but yeap there are a shit ton of great people that we will never know off or even the events.
RIGHT!! Talk about "GIRL POWER" This story alone let's ALL know females tend to be stronger than males. The men on that ship were sorry punk a$$ men anyway.
More of a man than the cowardly crew.
And the kid who kept firing the canon as well. Two real heroes amongst all the cowards.
Woman with the bloody hands, the young man that said “tell the world at least 1 man stood by his post to the end” are the reasons I liked this video. Those 2 folks, who may’ve never met the other, are the epitome of heroes.
Why?
@@MA-yu2ss Because many would flee for their lives. Many would want to hijack a lifeboat, or even just *try* to survive. These people did not. They stayed with the ship, doing their best to save as many lives as possible. Putting the lives of random people you don’t even know before yours, even if you *know* you will die, is the true definition of a hero.
The vesta captain is an idiot
Kindly DON'T THINK THAT THERE COULD HAVE been a better deal of damage caused
I bet they were "god fearing" people?
This story just destroys your faith in humanity. No matter how dreadful the sinkings of the Titanic, the Lusitania, etc were, you at least had a great deal of chivalry and selfless heroism from many of the passengers and crew on those ships. Sadly, it seems those qualities were in short supply aboard the SS Arctic… It’s no wonder her sinking has been forgotten to history; it shows our species at its very worst.
Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi were on the ship.
And even worse that their competition decided to celebrate the huge loss of life with a F***ing parade! How much more of a scumbag move could they do?
I remember my grandparents took us on a cruise when I was 11 in 2001. We were on a princess ship. They conducted our lifeboat drill that first day and we were informed that the way the drills/actual situations are handled were inspired by the way some of the crew of the titanic conducted themselves and the loading of their lifeboats on the Titanic ❤️
@@msprettypinkpanther6142Sick.
Why lose faith at all? If there is good, there is evil. If there is despair, there is hope. The titanic and this are evidences of this
I think one of the most horrific details was that some of the casualties from the Vista got trapped in the paddlewheel and literally got torn to pieces right in front of everyones eyes. Horrible
I know, must of been terrifying for them ☹️
It must certainly have been the most gruesome sight, but I still find the violence and selfishness the men onboard inflicted on their fellow humans to be more terrifying.
@@blondbraid7986seriously, women and children watching grown men trying to rape them.
too bad the arctic was still in fullspeed ahead mode
@@drdrew4457😂
I dont blame Capt Luce for never sailing again. Besides the crushing guilt he must have felt, how could he ever trust a crew after it seems most of them selfishly ignored his orders?
I would never step a foot on a dock again, let alone a ship.
I'd be too busy hunting down my old "crew" for malicious retribution. This was a villain origin story like no other
@@l0rdapophisThat actually sounds exactly like Pyke from League of Legends. His whole shtick is that he has a list of “corrupt” sea captains and crewmates
@@l0rdapophisthey prob all already died save a few
“Grandpa, what was it like at sea when you were a young seafarer?”
“Oh little one, those were hard days. My mates and I drank ourselves silly as our vessel sank, but we did manage to rape a few women while still floating. Then I hacked the chief steward to death with an axe before throwing a mother and child into the cold abyss so I could confiscate a life jacket and take over a lifeboat. We were rescued by our competitors but me and my companions chose to go to Canada instead and that’s my legacy to you dear child.”
Funny how the initially "doomed" ship survived just because it had watertight bulkheads and a crew that wasn't absolutely incompetent.
Titanic took notes about that watertight bulkheads from the vesta. didn't always work so well, as we now know.
@@villagemagician1320 The Titanic was, and even still would be by today's standards, a very tough ship. The trouble was that her damage was immense, a 300 foot long gash is doom for near every ship. It is a testament to the Titanic's seaworthiness that she stayed afloat after that for over two hours.
@@villagemagician1320 Titanic also took note of the cowardice of Men and made sure to keep order to make sure the boat's weren't swamped by Men, However I have to say Lightoller took it a BIT too far, Not even allowing Men into the boats when there were no Women or children present to be loaded aboard, And as a result quite a few were just simply loaded half or more than half empty.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W I am somewhat reluctant to agree with this. To my knowledge, only one or two boats (the first ones Lightoller loaded) were lowered with too few passengers. At this point many had great doubts about the seriousness of the situation. It looked to many that to be lowered into that little boat was infinitely more dangerous than the solid Titanic. So there was few people, including men, who were willing to get into the boat - at first. Soon thereafter it became clear that the ship was going to sink and then there wasn't the reluctance of many people (women, children, anybody) of getting in. These boats were filled to the brim, with some having a mere 2 inches of space between the side of the lifeboat and the ocean. There was another officer, Lowe I think his name was, who delayed the launch of some boats for an unknown reason despite Captain Smith saying explicitly to Lightoller to "put the women and children in the boats and lower away". This message was conveyed to Lowe but still he delayed. Who knows why. Never, that I know of, did Lightoller lower away half-full boats just because there were no women or children in the immediate area. Also, it should be noted that the time pressure was VERY real. And in fact not every lifeboat was able to be launched. They ran out of time. Lightoller was swept into the ocean whilst him and a few other men were readying one last lifeboat. In the end, the giant smokestack broke loose and that last lifeboat was missed just barely - with the giant wave flipping it upside down. This upside down lifeboat was Lightollers salvation, along with maybe a dozen others. Initially 18 were standing on it but 6 died before being rescued. There was no room on that slippery wet underside of the lifeboat and some fell into the water and never got back on.
@@dabbinghitlersmemes1762 Except it wasn't a 300 foot gash, but a series of badly-placed punctures and deformations along the forward hull.
Being fortunate enough to be a father, hearing the captain's son's death teared me up a bit. Survives so much, only to be killed in a freakish way.
The captain's son was already suffering from an illness before the ship sank, and likely wouldn't have survived before rescue arrived anyway.
@@tidan4575still... that paddlebox killed him before he even had a chance. It's horrific.
The true heroes were Captain Luce, Steward Holland, and Anna Downer. Captain Luce did everything he could, and Steward and Anna stood true to their words and stayed at their post until the very end. I believe they died heroes. It was truly such an unfortunate event and it is completely understandable that Captain Luce chose to never sail again.
For those who think that the moral values of society have collapsed, let this story remind you that evil and wickedness have been around for a long, long time. It's nothing new.
That is simultaneously reassuring and disheartening.
But notice how the moral values of society collapses when the societal structure collapses. If we don't stick to our most fundamental values and rules, everything will fall into a deathspiral of malevolence, despair and impulsiveness. Societal imbalance breeds chaos, and chaos awakens the evil sides in people. Societies have collapsed before you know, and the aftermath is always cataclysmic.
the problem is humans, humans, humans.
they have always been the ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
they will always be the root of all evil.
young or old. male or female. rich or poor. black or white. gay or straight.
THE PROBLEM IS HUMANS.
Bright side: we COULD solve this overnight, but no one wants to!
("the only thing humans hate more than the status quo is CHANGE")
EX:
PEER PRESSURE is more powerful than HUMAN NATURE.
@@jonbongjovi1869 If humans are the root of all evil, then they are also the root of all good, because good can not exist without evil.
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 Very, very true. That dichotomy is quite striking with this sinking! Incredible acts of selflessness occurring right beside some of the most selfish and sadistic. We're a very strange species
The level of survivor's guilt captain luce must have experienced is absolutely beyond me
Especially since his salvation, the paddle box, straight-up annihilated his son.
I know! The poor guy tried so hard and it seemed like nearly everyone else was sabotaging his efforts....
Not to mention the people that stole a lifeboat and prioritised cigars and legroom over human lives. They deserved way worse survivors guilt though
I don’t think I could live with it.
At least we can remember him and spread word of his heroism.
It is completely despicable that not a single woman or child survived that
What about the men
@@hidekiyukawa2874🛵 They let most drown in the back of the ship. Guess that was a mistake for when they felt like raping them later.
@@hidekiyukawa2874the original comment is probably not weighting the lives of women and children over those of men, but just stating that its tragic that even though the women and children were 'saved' first, none survived
More cowards than real men on that ship
@@hidekiyukawa2874 85 of them survived. Were you not watching?
First, let me say thank you so much for narrating it yourself, and not using the stupid AI voices that others refer to. Second just wow what an amazing piece of history research and production. This is a wonderful piece of work and you should be very proud of it. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you.
Absolutely!! I hear the AI voice, I immediately move on to another video.
@BezmenovDisciple Me too. The ai generated voice is horrible. I just move on to the next video.
@@claytonbouldin9381when I hear an AI voice I press the three dots and press "don't recommend this channel to me again" to make sure I don't even accidentally click it.
Honestly, while the captain is ultimately in charge, Captain Luce wasn’t making horrible decisions here imo. He tried to do the noble thing and save the passengers but it was his crew that destroyed any semblance of an evacuation that screwed the passengers’ chances of surviving. They ultimately deserve the blame, not him.
I agree 100%! There wasn't too much he could've done, A Captain without a crew can't do much and a crew without a Captain are leaderless, With the majority of his crew having turned on him and stolen the boats there wasn't too much he could've done, Land was too far away. It's terrible that for the most part this tragedy has been forgotten.
The captain is ultimately resposible for the ship, receiving the accolades and blame alike. Training, morale, and crew disciple all ultimately fall on the captain's shoulders. He is to blame, although he alone is not.
@@TaterRaider He isn't to blame though, Some Men will just always be selfish and put themselves first and that's what they did, They abandoned their Captain and the passengers to flee themselves instead of trying to maintain order and get the boats launched, I will agree with you that the Captain usually is responsible for the ship if disaster strikes but not this time, The crew who cowardly stole the boats are 100% to blame for the loss of life.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W Full speed ahead in a fog.
Everyone answers to the captain. The captain answers to God.
Also recommend checking into maritime disasters and simple things like running aground, particularly naval history. The captain can be asleep in his/her stateroom and still be court martialed. Because the captain is responsible for the ship - no exceptions. USS Missouri comes to mind.
@@TaterRaider The ship was at full speed ahead in the fog because they were FORCED to, The whole entire Collins Line was forced to maintain that full-speed or lose their subsidiaries from influential people who were looking to see the Collins Line fail, And even after this disaster they were still forced to maintain that full-speed rule until the Collins Line went out of business 4 years later in 1858, If you watched the video you would know this.
Its amazing how you can have a whole ocean and still crash into each other due to human error
It's because even with the whole ocean, only some parts are navigable, known, or have currents that will work in the favor of the boat
@@na3rial
Exactly.
It's like saying "How did you hit each other, you have the entire United States?" when two cars hit each other on I90.
Really ignorant comment.
Its the same in the air.
Same route it can happen easily
Americans make terrible drivers, they never look where their going and vote for the worst politicians
That’s one of the saddest story’s I have ever heard. Captain Luce was an incredible man
Poor Capt Luce :(
Can't believe everyone pointed the finger at him blindly
The media was probably worse back then-the ideal of journalistic integrity didn’t even exist yet-and because newspapers were the only method of mass information there was practically no chance of effective of countering an already established narrative that we have with social media and the Internet.
The woman manning the pump, who went down with the ship, was more courageous and more of an able seaman than any of the ships crew, save for the Captain and the gunnersmate who fired the signals cannon. That is sad.
Yea that sounds good on a grave stone and all, but you don't know a damn thing about that woman. For all you know she got off on killing babies.
I know! That was the saddest part!
i believe some crew members stayed it wasnt only those 2
Indeed, that's why I think that people should NEVER count on male chivalry in any dire situation, because while there were good men on board, they were outnumbered by the bad ones by far, and had most of their valiant efforts destroyed by them. Meanwhile, I don't see a single mention of any of the women attacking people, only going on lifeboats they were let on rather than highjacking them, and it seems nearly all of the women either worked hard keeping the ship safe like the woman on the pump, tried saving their children, or passively prayed without hurting anyone.
@@blondbraid7986it’s typical of shipwreck disasters sadly, the whole women and children first bullshit is a complete and utter myth. the only reason it happened a couple times was bc the captain and crew would literally enforce it sometimes at gunpoint… just goes to show how evil and selfish most men are, they would drag even their own wives and children out of lifeboats to take their place. disgusting. “male chivalry” is made up tbh
That the "full speed" policy was continued after this heart wrenching disaster is mind boggling
And it's all because the politicians didn't like the company or something. Straight up corruption that cost many lives.
At some point you really, really need to ignore politicians. They're a real problem since the beginning of time, turns out.
Typical though, isn't it? Anything to attain their objectives, damn anyone else's safety or welfare.
I hope those politicians get a nice welcoming warm stay in hell for the blood on their hands
Politicians are the cancer of this world.
As a first time viewer, I am blown away at the detail and incredible due diligence it took to bring this story to life. Most amazing thing I have seen here lately..
Poor captain Luce, a rare example of an honorable seaman who still managed to be vilified by the press. I can only hope that he was one day able to find peace and that he has resumed his career in the afterlife. RIP to him and all the others lost in this disaster
It’s fine, he got the justice he deserved. We are the people of the future to him, and we see the truth, and his name lives on as a hero. And for those who ran away? They will forever be forgotten as they deserve.
You people love to put people in heaven and you don't know if he was in GOD IN ORDER TO GO TO HEAVES,POOR CAPTAIN,POOR JESUS NAILED ON THE CROSS
@@reckontonottobemovedwhat
@@sabrinarosario6499 😂😂😂😂
@@reckontonottobemoved No, this man certainly deserves to be in heaven for his his incredibly heroic and selfless actions that most certainly do not go unnoticed by God.
Given that Captain Luce made reasonable decisions, put his passengers and crew first, and made every reasonable attempt to save them, and then getting most of the blame for the sinking thereafter, I can't imagine what his mind was going through. This is probably the only example I could find of a captain going down with his ship and not dying immediately.
And the thing that saved his life took the life of his son.
He really didn't deserve the slander he later got. I wouldn't have ever stepped foot on a ship again if I had been him.
I believe the captain of the Empress of Ireland survived going down with his ship. He was thrown off her into the water when she capsized, where he got on a lifeboat and spent the rest of the night saving people in the water.
The captain of the Lusitania also survived, he was swept of the bridge wing.
What reasonable decisions??? The reasonable decision would have been to tell the politicians to STFU on HIS ship and that they would be travelling at a slower speed while sight was obstructed by fog.
@@thrillereighties8241 actually that wasn't his decision to make... This is the downside of corporate shipping. It would be career ending for him.
However, the thing that would have been wise and not career ending was probably to turn to starboard at collision course. If he followed protocol, then the momentum might have been reduced just enough that the damage was manageable
It seems that in any disaster situation whether modern or historical we see the cruelest most selfish actions happening right next to people choosing the heroic and noble path. From looters and rioters in Pompeii versus those who tried to shield children with their own bodies, to insurance fraudsters and bigots post-9/11 versus unimaginably brave firefighters who charged straight into the flaming wreckage to try to save lives. It just goes to show that we have always had the choice to be either the best or the worst example of our species.
You whine about "bigots" after September 11...which religion did the attackers believe in? They certainly weren't Mormons or Catholics or Buddhists.
Tragedy doesn’t cause evil or goodness, it just broadens the traits that are already there. Despite what people may think, the world is not more evil now. These days we just get to see more of it. Stories like this are living proof that evil and good have been at war since mankind took their first steps.
What do you mean bigots? You weren't there in NY in 2001 you have no idea what occurred. Only what the media told you. There are always a few good people but there are so many cowards and traitors among us.
This just reinforces my deep respect of the sailors and captains that stick to the customs and tend to put passengers first because passengers doesn't have even a fleeting chance to survive a sinking ship.
"Let the world know that one man stood by his post." He was a man at the age of 22, towering over children in adult bodies that surrounded him. I must admit at this part I wept. (Edit for accuracy)
Once again, the world will know through the Internet.
From my experience looking into this time--in journalism--I feel that this quote is entirely fictitious, as it seems way too good to be true. Simple yellow journalism.
I mustof missed the part saying he was 12,...Wow. Just,...Wow.
@@CPorter Your feelings are a piss poor reason to disparage what could well be true. The words were spoken to the Captain who survived to tell the story. It would profit him nothing to lie about it. Off with you and your dark soul, vermin.
Why did he have to die while the dicks like Baalham and the Cheif Engineer had to survive. Same with the steward manning the pumps too.
The captain did nothing wrong, the mutiny of his crew was just completely out of his control, too bad the press said otherwise.
Democrats. Don't trust lefty media!
I must fully agree with you.
well, in fog and far away from any land or help he should of choose safety first and slow the ship down, easily could of have his officer log it as engine paddle wheel problem.
Absolutely agreed.
@@djsatane that’s easy to suggest, but he was obviously a man of integrity who wouldn’t put lies in the ship’s log. If I had to guess, you had an ancestor amongst the cowardly crew members of the Arctic.
My father says a coward dies a thousand deaths. I’m disgusted at the crew and some of the so-called “men”. Who took off leaving others stranded to their deaths. Just horrible 😢
The fact that every woman and child died as a result of their actions is just horrific.
How these men could live with themselves afterwards is beyond me.
What cowards they were.
@@YTsux100pct._of-the-time.easy to say
@@m3gAnac0ndait Easy to say. Especially children.. id rather die than live knowing i participated in killing children
@@m3gAnac0ndait's true , what u on about
@@m3gAnac0nda Dude, a man that's raised right has certain undeniable responsibilities.
Primary among those is PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY.
A lot of the passengers had their wives and kids on that boat. The crew didn't.
You can bet that pretty much everyone that sided with the captain was a passenger, but still - the kid who stayed firing the gun and the woman on the hand pump were braver than...
Well, YOU, apparently.
When shit goes wildly awry, that's when men need to stand up and do what we were literally fucking built to do - take charge of the situation, fight and die if we have to getting the goddamned women and children to safety.
I've been in bad situations before - a car crash where people were killed, dragged into fights by friends, and I grew up and still live in the Bronx and I'm white, so you know I came up throwing hands.
I also dealt cocaine for 6 years for a crew in Washington Heights, so I've had guns pointed at me (shotguns are the worst) and been shot at, as well.
My best friend was shot in the leg by an assault rifle one night in Van Cortland Park when a van rolled by and the side panel door slid open and he was just a little slow in diving.
The shit FLIPPED HIM. For real.
But i was the one who kept pressure on the wound until the ambulance came, fucking blood everywhere.
I'm not saying I would be superman when the ship was sinking, dude.
But i would do what's right, at least.
I don't want my dad looking down at me from heaven and being ashamed of me.
Props to the passengers and crew who acted honorably and put the lives of the passengers ahead of their own
It's terrifying how quickly people can abandon an image of civility in extreme situation. Just imagine them dining in fine clothes and bowing their hats one minute and tearing each other apart the next
That's because Civility is an illusion. We force the illusion to be prevalent but when the chaos of Nature overtakes that illusion, all we are are animals again.
Oh they are still like that...believe me.
The poor will eat the rich when given the opportunity.
@Stigmatogaster and will be correct to do so. The fact that 90% of the capital is in 1% of population's hands is really not ok and is a problem.
@@eirschu8973 So the people on the ship did nothing wrong?
Poor Captain Luce. My God, how unlucky to get the most sociopathic, selfish crew possible. What an unnecessary tragedy.
Never underestimate humanity. HMS Bounty much?
And even more rotten passengers, after that third ‘camp’ decided that raping, pillaging, and getting drunk would be the best way to spend the end of their lives.
Really? Poor Captain Luce who sold out his own crew and everyone else when he abandoned sound judgement and chose to listen to the politicians to travel at speed in that weather?? Are you all blind? Yes, he most likely would have lost his job for ignoring them but the disaster would have been avoided and all those lives would have been spared. He caved under pressure and relinquished his rank as Captain of the ship by listening to the politicians.
@@LateNightCable
Everyone likes to think they're honorable until they're put in these situations, and nobody is exempt from that fact. Great lesson to learn from terrible actions.
@@LateNightCableI thought when they said “stole alcohol” that it was going to be just some people deciding to get drunk and go out that way and I figured that wasn’t bad, but nope. It got worse.
I feel like the phrase "worse things happened at sea" was written for this very disaster! What a horrific situation!
i’ve never heard such a heartbreaking shipwreck story
Don’t forget to pour one out for fourth officer Francis Dorian who gave his life defending the last life boat.
Fortunately, Fourth Officer Dorian survived, though only barely. When the mob started to rush his lifeboat, Dorian was forced to cut his boat loose to prevent it from becoming overloaded, while the raft scraped against the _Arctic's_ hull, breaking off part of it and spilling its occupants into the Atlantic. I kind of feel bad for Dorian. He definitely would have stayed alongside the ship longer had there been better discipline among the crew, and the raft probably would have been properly completed and thus able to save more lives.
The only survivor on the raft was a crewman named Peter McCabe, a waiter on his first transatlantic voyage. From what I can tell, he didn’t force his way onto the raft: He had initially sought refuge on a door, but abandoned it in favor of the raft. He counted 76 people either on the raft or clinging to its side in the water, four of whom were women. He later recalled that he thought himself within ten minutes of death when he was rescued by the _Huron._
*Raises glass of lemonade*
I’m not old enough to drink yet so this will have to do
@@lunaequinox7333 Neither am I, and I prefer lemonade to alcohol. (It was for my first communion and the taste turned me away from drinking)
@@Daniel_Huffman you're not missing much lol. I am of drinking age, but have found that alcohol is grossly over rated. 😁. Lemonade is far superior!
Not to mention the woman who was bleeding out through her hands but continued using them to keep the pumps running.
This needs to be made into a movie. People need to be reminded what honor is and what happens when you abandon it.
@ Steven Spielberg
@@Annie.747Spielberg raped a 12 year old who died from her injuries. Heather O'Rourke on the set of Poltergeist
🛵 Another horror movie.
Agreed
We are only allowed to watch some politically correct garbage and cross breeding propaganda. Good movies hardly make it in the theaters.
Those poor children. I swear, kids always get dealt the worst hand in moments like this. No way, as a man, could I flee and worry only about myself if there were kids that could possibly lose their lives.
Agreed
The Estonia disaster/cover up in the Baltic in 1994 is unbelievable. I'd say the SS Atlantic/Estonia/Wilhem Gustev in 1945 are the worst. I think nearly 15 thousand were murdered on the Wilhelm fleeing the Soviets.
Damn right
Poor children
God protect us men from cowardice
I could easilyyyy they just crotch goblins
You do a great job of humanising the subject by describing the passengers and their families, the Skipper taking his invalid son to sea with him for the first time struck me as incredibly sad.
What a horrifying story. I’m a recently retired sea captain after nearly 50 years going to sea. The sea remains a dangerous place and ships are still lost. Thank you for telling this story.
Do you have any stories to tell? Maybe you should consider it? Js
Yes. I had near experiences with sharks
I hope most ship crews aren't as freaking scary as the Arctic's.
@@SCharlesDennicon scary idk but they were assholes haha
if i may ask, how did you get to be a sea captain? were you in the navy or a similar field that helped you transition in? nowadays, is it something that requires a degree or is it more reliant on experience?
A book I read about the sinking of the Arctic pointed out that there was a lot of public shame about the selfishness of the crew because just two years prior a British ship called the Birkenhead had struck a rock and sunk off the coast of Africa, but the soldiers and crew on board had chosen to go down with the ship rather than risk overwhelming the women and children who had been loaded into the ship’s lifeboats. The practice of putting women and children (or in other words the most vulnerable) into the lifeboats first came to be known as a Birkenhead drill.
The fact every woman and child died is horrifying; that these men gave defense of "well the captain was incompetent and an asshole" and thought that absolved them of leaving kids to die and pushing away survivors as they left with room to spare in the only life boats is chilling.
Then the tragedy of the SS Atlantic evened things out killing all woman and children aboard and leaving only the men.
@@badcornflakes6374 seriously?? Holy hell…
Good. They deserved shame. They still deserve it. I hope they spend every night in Hell drowning over and over.
No, it didn't. "The Birkenhead Drill" was coined by Kipling in a poem about the incident and it refers to the soldiers on board forming into ranks in deck and remaining there while the women and children were placed into the lifeboats. That is what they call a drill in military terms. The officers wanted to prevent a panic, and the men stayed under discipline until the boats were away, and then they figured there was no escape anyway, so they just stayed in their ranks and waited while the ship sunk under them. I have never heard the general practice of women and children first called "The Birkenhead Drill", that misses the entire point of them meeting their deaths bravely standing in ranks instead of panicking. And I am pretty sure the practice predates that anyway, so no, they don't call it that, they didn't do it first, and that wasn't what they did.
Such a terrible disaster, yet it was told here, with respect, knowledge and compassion. It’s a story that I had never heard about before, and although, I personally, have never been brave enough to even attempt boarding a cruise ship, out of fear of the dangers of the sea, I was glued to my screen with interest and curiosity. Excellent story telling.
"This lifeboat and its occupants were never seen again" Dang. That hit hard. The captain had nothing but good intentions. If only they had actually worked together and listened more would have survived
Hearing about the captain holding his son and losing him in the water only to witness him be killed as he desperately tried to reach him one last time brought me to tears thinking of my own sons
And then the thing that killed him was what he himself clung to to survive.
Me too. We're so fragile as human being, to protect our children of some bigger things...
you know i don't want to be that guy but you risk their lives every time you let them enter any vehicle. just a drive to school is potentially deadly. but just like back then people choose to either accept the risks or don't even think about the risks and just continue to risk their lives for the small benefit of education or travel. the sad thing is if any kids actually knew the horrors of a car crash they would probably fight with their parents to stay home. but we don't let them make that decision because we choose to risk their lives for what we believe is important and not them.
@@jimbobbyrnes but the problem is, it shouldn't even be a risk at all. Over here in Europe, this risk nearly doesn't exist.
@@johnyoutuber9781 Dying at sea on a ship the size of the SS Arctic is a risk that nearly does not exist either. Especially since we know that its dangerous and so naturally humans avoid the big scary sea and are deeply afraid of it.
This story needs a movie. It gives the same sense of isolation and hopelessness as Stephen King's "The Mist", but the fact that this is a real event cranks all the feelings up to 11.
NOTHING "needs a movie". Hollywood is run by the worst liars and deviants on Earth. You would do well to steer entirely clear of ALL the poisons they produce.
I agree. Would be grim Watching.
Grim and very necessary. Might have to wait until “1899” loses its relevance.
As a film it would lack the noble heroism of the Titanic. As far as I know the British seamen of the Titanic behaved well.
@@PatMcDonald41 no shit😐
This story caused a visceral reaction in me. Those crew men are complete and utter cowards… really hope karma got her revenge on these fools. The story about the crewman firing off the cannon is incredible too. At least somebody had some honor in this situation
Anybody else obsessed with sinking ship stories?
🛵 Apparently i am.
@@mikethebike2456they are so interesting 😊
@@ritanyaga8581 🛵 I knew i was into Titanic but apparently all ship disasters are so compelling to learn about. This one might be the worst.
I recommend another disaster that fascinates me. It's called the Franklin Expedition. The first season of THE TERROR got me into it.📺 130 men lost in the Arctic after their ship is seized by ice.
Not a quick death like ten minutes in the ocean.
I am, especially with the Titanic, Carpathia, Britannic, Olympic etc.
Yes after I watched the Titanic for the first time last week. I’ve been searching all yt for sunken ships videos
Captain Luce deserves to be remembered as a hero who did everything he could to save as many people on board the Arctic, despite his crew turning on him.
I admire the men and women who did not abandon their captain or their ship. Unquestionable honor.
Funny, he abandoned them when he chose to listen to the politicians.
I damn the drunken cowards that attempted to rape them.
No women. Only men. Women were considered bad luck at sea back then
@@peter_d Then why were ships given female names?
@@peter_dYou have to be completely brain dead if you seriously believe that women never traveled as passengers on ships back then.
Terrific telling of a gripping and tragic story. Excellent presentation, writing, and narration.
The fact that ships just didn't have enough lifeboats until the Titanic meant that the people who designed them definitely viewed some passengers and crew as completely and utterly expendable.
Lifeboats were meant to transport survivor to a rescue ship and return for more people, if there was no rescue ship nearby they figured you are going to die either way an better quickly drown or freeze rather than starve to death in the middle of the ocean
Not entirely true, since lifeboats were thought of less as something to keep people alive after a ship goes down than to transport people to another ship, then return for more.
In hindsight, it doesn't seem right at all ... but that's hindsight.
My hat is off to the brave young gentleman that never abandoned his post manning the emergency signals until his death. The bravest man on the ship by far and worthy of a statue in his honor!
And that woman that remained doing her job with bloody hands while the boat was sinking.
Shouldn't need a statue just to stay, goodby. Really, just want anyone who approves of his lifestyle is forward. That's the way of the world?
Maybe the other men were really trans women?
I would kill everyone else on the ship if it meant I had a 10% extra survival chance.
As a Brit native living in Sydney I to salute that same young gentleman. Honour and respect from Australia.
"As long as my arms work, I'm staying." That lady was hard as nails. The guy at the signal cannon had iron resolve as well. But what she said is just gangster
Actually the gangsters we're raping and pillaging,while the warriors fought for life!! But I see your point!
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@@TonyBustaroni just another of the massive list of words used to describe something completely different than their true definition. Lately we've added words like man and woman to that list. Just like sick is awesome, bad is good, wicked is impressive, etc.
@@TonyBustaroni wow it’s almost like human language continually evolves and these magical things called colloquialisms exist!
@@TonyBustaroni Say good nite
This is THE single most tragic story I have EVER heard. Hard to believe it's real!
Since a lot of people with an interest in history has a tendency to over-romanticize the past, me included, this story is a good reminder that no, there has never been a time where humans have universally acted according to some "great honourary belief system", something which would've subsequently become obsolete or lost during our modern age.
There's always been the personal choice to do what's right, some have done it and some have not. Let's don't forget to always strive towards behaving in a way that we wouldn't mind having as our legacies, were we to become but memories and compost tomorrow.
Love this. Uncommonly wise words.
Hell the past use to be a lot more violent.
Yuppp, all these people acting like the lack of religion is what causes evil, when in reality the most religious times of history were the darkest.
This video itself serves as a memorial to those who lost their lives that day and those who did everything they could to save others. Thank you for making this and keeping their memories alive today.
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The Clown doing the story, has no idea, about Port & Starboard ! So the helmsman was ordered to turn RIGHT.......which meant LEFT.........??????? The narrator, does not know what the heck he is talking about !
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Yeah apart from the rapists and vile passengers who I hope are in hell.
It’s hearing stories like this that make you appreciate how calm and professional the Titanic’s crew were during its sinking.
This was similar to my thoughts after too. Titanic is remembered largely cause of man's hubris in the face of nature and the classism of the time, but there's a ton of little stories that convey people doing good in the face of disaster. If there was a movie about this one I'd be left feeling so bitter about humanity.
It is incredible to me, to think that the band just kept playing "Nearer My God to Thee" as the Titanic was sinking! There weren't enough lifeboats and they probably knew that. Still, that they didn't panic and kept playing is so sad, yet it shows how very brave some of them were (and were not also as some of the crew were the first ones in the lifeboats!) They had over two hours (2 hrs, 40 mins), and some lifeboats weren't even full) I guess they really believed that the Titanic was unsinkable. A terrible tragedy for all.
They weren't properly trained like they should have been on the maiden voyage, but they were honorable and very selfless for their time. The main reasons they didn't pick up the people in the water was the belief that the lifeboats would be sucked down with the ship, or that they would be swamped and overturned by the giant crowds of desperate freezing passengers.
I don't agree. Whenever there's a sinking ship with not enough life boats, self preservation will always win. The Titanic was no different.
@@Matthew-qc1xz So wrong! Many people died in the very cold water. others drowned, but the many could NOT withstand the very cold water temps until rescue arrived and died hanging onto wreckage and slipped away into the water.!
"Self-preservation will NOT win when the elements and other intolerable situations occur and make survival nearly impossible.
Do you really think that people who have died inevitably in a aircraft crash didn't have plenty of self-preservation intent? Didn't matter. Some people in deadly air crashes had to be identified by the DNA in the pulp of a tooth or bone because there was NO intact body part where they could be identified, such as fingerprints, etc. because at 600 mph crashing into the ground from perhaps 31,000' altitude, there is little left of the aircraft or the people to even identify. Only due to modern technological advances can we use DNA for identity now!
My Great-great-great-grandfather came to the United States in the spring of 1850 from Northern Ireland via Liverpool, England aboard the HMS Grace McVae. So she was probably about the exact same age as the Atlantic! I'm fortunate enough to have a copy of the journal he kept during the voyage. At one point, a storm had made the seas so rough that he and the other passengers truly thought that they were about to go down. All that he could write in his journal were the following lines by Byron, which he had apparently committed to memory...
"Roll on, thou deep and dark blue Ocean - roll!
Ten thousand fleets sweep over thee in vain;
Man marks the earth with ruin - his control
Stops with the shore; -- upon the watery plain
The wrecks are all thy deed, nor doth remain
A shadow of man’s ravage, save his own,
When for a moment, like a drop of rain,
He sinks into thy depths with bubbling groan,
Without a grave, unknell’d, uncoffin’d, and unknown."
Millions of Irish were made to go on the coffin ships from 1846 up to 1954. They died on the way. Thanks to the criminals running Ireland and the greedy merchant class. That can't be named on RUclips.
1854*
Greeting to you, sir, my name is Jeff. I live in Rosebud, which is a suburb of Melbourne in Australia over the last few days I’ve watched a few documentaries on RUclips on the disastrous and the shameful act of sailors when they put under stress for their own laws, and how they would kill off other people for their own selfish lifestyle. Anyway, we can’t help the past. We only can make sure things are better in ship these days, anyway I wish to say thank you for your excellent documentary. I do not understand the technology that goes to make these documentaries but all I can say is well done so well done to you and your team. Absolutely fantastic brilliant I am not a ship person I’m a try not, but I still enjoyhistory documentaries all the best to you sir. Thank you very much once again, yours, Jeff Melbourne, Australia.
Oh my god. Everything about this from beginning to end is like a horror movie. From the crash to the mutiny then sharks attacking survivors-jeeze, how hasn't there been a movies made about this.
Depression is bad enough with truth and some one knows it is why. what eventually do you think people would continue living with this type of bullshit just to feed the so called comfort of ones home not realizing enough how depression creeps in to a human. unless they are freekishly evil and like this sort of thing for entertainment. Though its possible we all are guilty some times of Possible entertaining propaganda.
I think because it's too depressing. There's no silver lining.
Not sure where these other 2 are coming from, I guess they're unaware of the many movies that were inspired by the tragedy of real people & Hollywood doesn't give a damn about anybody's depression.
I think maybe those powerful people have powerful descendants & a movie would cause curious individuals to start turning over stones. I don't know, I'm sure there's lots of things being kept from us.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser What good is it going to do your worrie about what they have been keeping from us well be for for we were even born? besides this is not ment for Searchers looking in areas where they were told it was put in the bottom tittle sections of all that this is Simply for Entertainment purposes only? like a lot of Britannica Based . but Entertainment means not necessarily true. Like the Global warming only half believe its true but waiting restless with more evidence. Theory or Conspiracy theory turned out later True.
@@larrybradley3921 Yes but some don't see that but rather make thier own decisions on how professionals over 100 years should operate the Studios.
Now I know that that signalman stayed at his post, just as he wanted us to know it. There's no substitute for a professional that stays cool under pressure. if some vessels were close enough, his efforts surely would have made the difference.
A true man.
And the lady who stayed at the pump...
A true woman.
This was WILD, holy cow! I had never heard of this before today, and the way you made the video and narrate is just beautifully done.
Now this here should be a movie.
When I saw "The Most Horrifically Shameful Sinking," I thought of a few classic reasons other maritime disasters were shameful. Negligence, incompetence, disregard for safety, inadequate resources, etc. I never once thought a mutinous crew of cruel, selfish men (in addition to some creul, selfish passengers). While this is certainly "the most shameful sinking" I've ever heard about, it also feels like a major understatement. Shameful does not even begin to describe this tragedy. This was a real horror story that was brushed under the rug so that none of the mutinous crew members or corrupt politicians were held accountable for this needlessly brutual tragedy.
There is no justice in this world.
Your absolutely right. That is why we can never trust politicians. In every time period they are evil liars covering up massive disasters!
That’s why I’m watching Andrea Doris’s sinking after this… so shameful
Yeah seriously. 'Ship's going down, time to rape!' what the actual f??
This is one of the worst disasters at sea that I have ever heard. While many crews before and since have abandoned their passengers, this crew is the worst I've heard of. Pitifully few of them actually cared about their passengers and most of those that did paid with their lives. They are heroes and deserve to be remembered as such. Thanks Tom for giving these heroes the honor they deserve.
It’s disgusting to see only a handful of loyal Crewmen, including the fucking Captain😤
They deserved better, and the cowards deserve nothing but contempt
Ever heard of the S Korean ferry Sewol?
@@silverXnoise I have, what about it?
@@LathropLdST ??
Do you really need someone to connect the dots for you?
@@LathropLdST I thought it was a cute name for a ferry boat and just wanted to tell everyone about it. No relevance to shameful actions in relation to maritime disasters whatsoever, my apologies for muddying the discussion with such trite distractions.
It’s hard to say how I’d react in this situation but the what the crewmen did was sickening
To say the list. Unbelievable. 🙏🏻💔
I live in North Wales we were out on a 6 man boat not realizing we were drifting out further and further out with the tide and not matter how fast we paddled we had no chance I've never felt so alone and have company at the same time in my entire life we were so frightened with two men saying they were going to swim to shore we basically had to tie them to the boat to stop them and because we only wanted to go out for an hour or two we had little water and food and no cover to keep warm at night, 3 days we were out and finally a costgaurd seen us and got us but I won't even go to the beach to this day as a fear comes over me I can't discribe. It's truly terryfying at night knowing your out there alone and not knowing if your going to die but also a lovely calm came over me only for a second I think it was the feeling of knowing there's not much I can do now just except my fait but then fear again loads of emotions.
To think all this horror could have been avoided if some spiteful politicians hadn't insisted that these ships always go at full speed regardless of how unsafe it was.
This is what "work smarter" does. Usually it involves cutting corners and seeking goals or profit in an easiest and fastest way.
@@ligametis N...No. Work Smarter, Not Harder is about finding clever ways to reduce the labor needed while getting the exact same result. Cutting corners is different and bad.
The political mandate seemed to be at least on its surface insistent on making sure the mail was delivered quickly, but the sheer disregard for safety and how rigidly it was enforced makes me think it was intended to kill the Collins line from the start. Someone in power wanted this line to die.
Politicians most of the time are uneducated and evil.
Gee...just think .....this had a billion to one chance of happining..!
Not much has changed. Insist everyone get the experimental jab no matter how much evidence there was that it was unsafe. I'm sure I could find many other examples of unrealistic politically and selfishly motivated policies.
My great-great-great-great grandfather, David Fairweather Mustard, was a casualty of this disaster. He was returning to the United States after visiting his mother in Scotland.
i am sorry for your (late) loss.
Same happened to my great great uncle Johnny Henry Ketchupson 😔
David Mustard? Related to Joey Mayonnaise??
@@pauldinardo912 😂
@@pauldinardo912 by chance, are they related to Billy Balsamic Dressing ?
The sounds of the waves during this documentary was just delightful! Thanks! 💕
This was the video of yours that I stumbled upon first, and since then I've watched through your catalog of videos, but in my opinion, this is your finest work and it sticks to me after all these months.
You absolutely nailed the tone, emotion, and historical facts of this tale and its truly gripping. Thank you, and please continue making videos like this in the future!
This is just horrifying. I’d never heard this story before. As a life long Titanic fan, this disaster made me appreciate just how well Titanic’s crew really did.
Yes most historians say this is why Titanic is so well know but unfortunately this kind of selfishness is much more common in ship sinkings
In December 1987, more than 4,300 people died in the world's worst peacetime maritime disaster after the ferry Dona Paz sank after colliding with a fuel tanker.
@@brandonsavitski Thanks Wikipedia. 🙂
Why does the Titanic movie portray the crew as villains?
@@ChefPoirotProductions1 Titanic’s crew “Villains”? First I’ve heard of that take in the film. Mostly it’s the rich dude and his jockey
I had a relative who was lost on the Arctic - Stephen Culmer. He was my great great great grandfather's brother, returning to the US after visiting relatives in England. Thank you for making this video.
May Allah bless him and forgive him his sins. Allah the lord of all worlds forgives those who died at sea
La hawla walw quwwata illah billaah
how would you know this... thats like saying you had a cousin with Shackleton
@@dylanmooney3221 No, that was my great great great uncle, silly! How could you mix that up?!
@Dylan Mooney? Have you ever done genealogy? The 1800s are no problem to research at all, unless the specific archives you’re searching for have burned up at some point or anything like that. Most of the Western world, often through their different churches, had begun keeping meticulous track of births, marriages, deaths at this point in time.
Wow, lots of “greats” in front of that! Cudos to you, for keeping that good track of your family history.
They should make a movie out of this... That's a hell of a story albeit pretty depressing.
I agree. The antithesis to Titanic. Instead of love, romance and “beauty” it would be more of evil, chaos, and darkness. Quite a turn sadly. I’m appalled by the lack of humanity on the Arctic. I can’t imagine being there, I would have been enraged at the debauchery.
I've seen a lot of these shipwreck videos, but this one is especially brutal. Two ships, each with their own set of horrors. It just got worse...and worse. Then, it got worse. 😔
The passengers were more organized and willing to help the Captain than the crew? That is an interesting irony, given they were trained in the lifesaving equipment, and I must say this gave me chills so see that the crew would ignore the passengers completely and that Washington D.C. politicians would try to keep themselves “clean” of the disaster when they are responsible for bad policy.
US Politicians staying "clean" when they were responsible for bad policy? This is par for the course.
wow .. im reading this comment today in 2022, 2 days after the uvalde tragedy.. seeing the disgusting similarities, my god this system is so beyond repair
Probably that was not caused by the passengers being so noble as opposed to the crew. First - they were not seamen, so abandoning ship on their own wouldn't had save them - and secondly - all those women and children were their families - so obviously saving them was more important to those men, than to the crew.
Perhaps it was an Italian crew?
Yup, sounds like the republican party.
I swear we'd be so screwed if the democrats didn't keep them honest.
I can’t imagine how Captain Luce would’ve felt to see his son be killed right in front of him by something so unexpected and unpredictable.
Also the fact that the very thing that obliterated his son was the only reason he survived.
@@dracorex426 talk about survivors guilt
He had another wife and son beforehand, who both died. When his second son died in the sinking, his second wife died shortly after. Luce spent the rest of his life as a Steamship Inspector, tormented by the loss of the Arctic. And to think this was a man who was a Captain by his early 20s, a prodigy! What a sad end to his life and to a successful and decorated career
Something he would later use to survive
@@fredherbert7920 Why are you doing thish shir?
Great story and production. Thanks for taking this on.
This is the first video of yours I've watched. I'm sure your channel is a new favourite. Thank you for such a thorough account, although it did show human beings at their best and worst and was so sad.
im so happy that Luce’s name was sorta cleared. If i lost as much as he did. survived. and having to live with that, going home to my wife without our child, as one of the VERY few survivors. my god.
Captain Loose.
May have not made perfect decisions but he at least made his best effort with a clean heart
@@eswing2153 what is the point of commenting "captain loose" under people's comments? Is it supposed to be some sort of insult?
He acted valiantly in the end, but it was all his fault.
If he had adhered to the standards of passing on the right, this could have all been avoided.
Probably.
Either way though, he might have been a fool, but an honorable one.
@@Nerobyrne it was the bridge officer who chose tye wrong turn, capatain luce was below decks at the time.
This entire story was a series of horrifically unfortunate events but my jaw dropped at the Vesta's fate, I wasn't expecting that
He did say it had bulkheads :)
Same!! Hit the floor, I thought they said it was a goner, but also thought it was weird they didn't mention much else about it...tried to pull a fast one...😂
Blew my mind, nearly as much as the Cunard gobshites having a parade celebrating their own lifeboats safety days after the tragedy came to light.
Agreed! I was surprised and glad about that. This whole event was so negative and even then Captain Luce was mistakenly made out to be a villain.
Was the ship cursed or what! Seems like when things go wrong in life even more things go wrong to make it worse.
When he said it had bulkheads and the Arctic didn't I was expecting them to evacuate the Vesta's crew onto the Arctic and then have the Vesta survive.
I was looking for the Nantucket ship story but found this one in step. I wasn't aware of this horrible story. You did a great job telling how it happened, and I would like to thank you and congratuled you for such an amazing job. Put it in this video together.
This was an extraordinarily well made video. It really blew me away. I was thoroughly impressed by the amount of effort and attention to detail you showed. Now I want to read the book because I want to learn more about the tragedy.
Imagine facing death abd deciding, "welp, time to drink, fight, rape and loot." In a time of fear of god, these men damned themselves.
Were a lot of men who damned themselves that day, particularly the ones you mentioned, but also every last mutineer.
Apparently a similar thing happened when the ferry Estonia foundered in the Baltic after its bow was shorn off in high seas. A group of passengers went down the throng gathered on the lifeboat deck, swiping jewelry and other valuables at knife-point, and peeling the most desirable young women out of the rest of the group. Pretty horrifying stuff.
@@CinemaDemocratica Have heard the same rumour too, but how credible it is...? There is no verifiable evidence and the eyewitness accounts are spotty at best.
The sinking happened in the middle of the night, during a horrendous storm and within a very short time. Between the serious listing (over 15 degrees) and the ship being on it's side (90 degrees) took only around 15-20min. While it is possible, the extremely short timespan gives very little time for any serious looting/raping. The rumour i've heard says it all happened inside the ship, at outside there was no time for anything besides to survive. People had mere minutes to decide on what might keep them alive.
The same rumour also explicitly says that the surviving eyewitnesses saw no 'looters' amongst the other survivors. So *IF* it happened, they all drowned in the numbingly cold and black sea in an absolute darkness, at worst hearing the hull creaking while it was going down to the bottom. Just barely enough time to truly understand that they were certainly going to die.
Sadly that same horrible fate was faced by 980 innocent people...
It's the horror of nihilism distilled into mere hours. In the modern-day, we have Dylan Klebold, who thought he should die, because he hated himself and nothing he did had meaning, commiserating with Eric Harris, who thought everyone else should die, because he hated them and nothing had any meaning. So they sunk the ship themselves.
(On the side of not becoming nihilistic myself, I try to remember that just over two years later, ordinary men took on a hopeless fight against multiple armed hijackers, because they couldn't bear dying knowing they didn't even try--and they succeeded.)
I can't imagine how they could explain that away to Jesus when they died and faced judgement - especially fi the souls of those the harmed and abandoned were in attendance.
This is such an absolute catastrophe. The mutiny and brutality of the sinking is one that is rivaled by none. Rest In Peace to the innocent souls lost in the sinking and to the captain who bravely fought to the end to save his passengers.
Unfortunately, other revolting sea disasters happened.
The sinking of the VOC indiaman Batavia off the coast of Australia in the 17th century showed the depths of cruelty and sadism us humans are capable against our own kind.
@@philippetremblay906 Now THAT was probably the worst one in all of history.
Crewmen & perhaps passengers alike getting hammered and raping or having sex towards the end.... jeez, the decks all sticky & slippery with cum & sweat, that couldn't have helped those passengers who were indeed trying to save themselves and their children. So sad. :(
My goodness this is absolutely horrific! This video randomly came on my feed and I just want to say what a fantastic retelling.
love your channel and the way you retell the story of shipwrecks that get overshadowed by Titanic. I learn so much from your videos!
Damn..this was absolutely a HORRIFIC story. This is a perfect example of how quickly panic & cowardice can spread. And a testament to how important it is to have strong leadership not just at the very top with the Captain, but amongst the crew as well.
It's a perfect example of the shameful greed of companies that did not put enough boats on their ships. Even with perfect discipline people would have died due to limited number of seats. The owners of the ship killed them and were solely responsible for the ensuing panic.
"Politicians gave them the requirement of always steaming at full speed" ... yeah, these Politicians should've been required to always have close relatives on at least two of the ships.
To be honest, I do not believe that quoted directive because it makes no sense at all. If that is true then that silliness should have been simply ignored.
@@billstill1794 Yeah like how the fuck would they know if the ship was going at full speed at all times? That's so fucking stupid.
Sadly though, it does seem realistic. Politicians have plenty of form for this sort of thing. Even today we often see cases where politicians will criticise the actions of others despite playing a role in the issue themselves. Just look at COVID. So many governments and politicians who made decisions that effected the course of the pandemic will blame everyone (the experts, the public, health services etc) but not take any responsibility themselves.
"I SWEAR we always steamed full-speed ahead! Honest!"
Better to be a fired liar than an honest corpse.
@@billstill1794 It's true. It was believed that the faster you got through the dangerous iceberg waters of the North Atlantic, the safer you would be. Sadly this belief was held through to the time of the Titanic. Really dumb 'logic'.
Amazingly well put together presentation, sir.
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This makes the Titanic look like a great success
The only "wrong" choice the Titanic's crew made was launching half full lifeboats. However, this was only done because they thought the ship would sink slow enough to ferry all of the passengers onto the Californian.
People forget that things like this were a contributing factor to the events that played out there. Women and children first was certainly not the norm and they were usually the bulk of the casualties. The Titanic and her people were products of their era.
@@harrisonkarn2078 they also made the mistake of thinking the Californian was moving towards them to help it wasn't. Also a lot of the lifeboats launched half full not because of crew but because the passengers themselves were being stubborn, preferring to wait for rescue aboard the big sturdy ship with lights as opposed to the tiny deathtrap lifeboats in the dark.
@@harrisonkarn2078 No, not at all. Lightoller the coward kept launching lifeboats half empty even when it was clear that the ship was going to sink in a short time and no one would pick them up for many hours at least. And the cowards made no attempts to row back to rescue the men in the water, except a couple of them. Shame on them all.
@@vittoriomandelli1309 right they should've totally rowed their tiny boats into a crowd of roughly 1200 panicking people in the water so that those people can swarm the boats and sink them too and then everyone dies. Solid plan dude.
I feel physically ill. How people could act so selfishly and cowardly I cannot understand. Especially when they didn't even pull people up while they were already escaping! The poor captain and upstanding people. An exceedingly cruel fate. May they all rest in peace.
Because they were trying to survive
@@PointNemo9 rape woman is a way to survive?
Fear can bring out the best and the worst in people add in the mob mentality and then you will see the worst in humanity
You can't understand because your not a sinking ship and about to drown. Real life isn't a movie. Survival is the only thing that matters.
Because there weren't enough boats and everyone knew it.
Utterly incredible. Keep these great little documentaries coming. You are doing fantastic work!
Great video. You do an excellent job telling the story. Your visual recreations of the happenings are so nicely done. Thank you for all your hard work.
*There should be a HORROR movie based on this story*
Wouldn't have to change a single detail either it was so heinous
the dread of sailing full steam in the mist... the french fishermen shredded by the paddles... the sailors and passengers who went mad... the fighting... and finally the moment the captain finally spots his son only to have him killed in front of his eyes so suddenly and forcefully.
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I would watch that movie and say "Man what the... How can they make such a tragedy into such a messed up movie!!! Geez... that was..." and then I'd research it and... well ... humanity is often worse than the horrors a movie can come up with.
Agreed - it's so heinous that telling the truth would probably be unbelievable to audiences in the theater, and the studio would want to change things after their test screenings.
I agree with not changing anything, because I feel that doing so is, for all intents and purposes, the same as pretending that these horrific details didn’t happen. I think that your proposed film should have an ensemble cast, though with Captain Luce as the primary POV character for the audience, who, like Luce, is constantly bewildered over the crew following his orders less and less. I also think that it should emphasize the heroic actions of those who did remain loyal, as a way of showing that disaster doesn’t just bring out the worst in humans.
According to the Wikipedia article on the _Arctic_ Disaster, Captain Luce was largely viewed as a hero and was met with cheers when he arrived in New York via train. He also was largely found blameless, as "he had not sought to save himself, had gone down with his ship, and had survived largely by chance." I think that in a hypothetical scene of Luce's arrival, the mood would be described as "empty."
This film would be described as a psychological horror, and would definitely be Rated R. And it shows that the _Titanic's_ passengers and crew had it comparatively better.
Hell yes
I would love it to be an animated film so you don't have to worry too much about budget or bad actors or CGI not looking realistic, but because of Disney America is probably still not gonna try make animated films that AREN'T just for families.
I look at some of the best short stories from "Love, Death & Robots" with their amazing animation styles and gorgeous camerawork/action, and I long for an entire 90 minute or two hour long film like that.
I'm really surprised that Captain Luce survived but they made him look like the villain instead of him trying to save everyone
His decisions caused it that's why regardless of how he acted afterwards.
Those cowards were just trying to cover up their own misdeeds
They did the same to Capt Turner of Lusitania, with orders the admiralty claimed they sent him but they didn’t. Got him on the stand, he’s traumatised and they tried to make him seem like he led the ship into the hands of a German uboat. It was all to fuel propaganda to enter WW1
It happens everytime. The British Government and Churchill who was head of the British Admiralty during WWII. They tried to blame the Captain of the Lusitania and a British Judge refused to falsify accuse the Captain. So they made up a lie about U20 saying the Submarine shot two torpedoes which had been proven to only shoot one Torpedo. Churchill set up the Ship. There is a recent Documentary Movie about the Sinking of the Lusitania. The U.S. Government falsely accused Mcvay the Captain of the U.S.S. Indianapolis that dropped off the A Bombs. The Japanese Captain of the Submarine that sank the Indianapolis that there was nothing McVay could have done to stop him from sinking the Hero Battleship. Mcvay shot himself the day he buried his wife. His family worked for years to correct the record and finally succeeded. They always have to blame others for their mistakes.
I am sorry I meant WWI. Word change changed my Lusitania comment to the second World War. The Indianapolis was at the end of WWII. The Captain of the Orca in Jaws told the horrifying event of the U.S.S Indianapolis.
just as i thought it couldnt get any worse it did
Thank you so much. I happened across your story about the Mary Celeste yesterday, but am now working my way through the other videos. Brilliant to have this 'niche' storytelling/factual series. Now subscribed too!
Years ago I read the book, "The Sea Shall Embrace them" about this disaster. This episode really covered this disaster well. I remember getting so angry at the crew and how no one was brought to justice for this.
They say that all stories have good endings, but in fact, it's only most
@@Ever_2008_ARG I do think in a way there was at least a bittersweet ending to the story, it just wasn't about the SS Arctic: The Vesta made it to port with most of its passengers and crew despite the horror it gone through, and despite the fact it had been in a collission that could've very well have sunk the ship had it or the events that followed happened even slightly differently, *and* despite the fact that collission would've doomed almost every other ship of that size at the time.
Beyond those that died in the rescue boat (except the one person that survived and then also survived the horrors of the SS Arctic), and the handful that died on the part of the ship that got sheared off, everyone survived on there.
@Superfly29rr With unlimited alcohol who knows..Some sailors were not temperate men
@@Ever_2008_ARG Whoever was short-sighted enough to suggest that all stories might possibly have 'good endings' ..😁..😎
They have all been brought to justice by today.