@DATING HARLEY QUINN Also that he is (that) malignant. I grew up with a mother with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and while she may be malignant to a degree, she would also refer to herself as a humanist and get off of herself being that great and she would most definitely be the most left-wing president the US ever had. But a president like Trump who's that malignant and racist and misogynistic ... that's the worst case scenario.
@claire bigelow because narcissists love and thrive on power. the presidency is a seat of high power. therefore, it'd be ideal for a power hungry bloke such as a narcissist. Trump doesn't want to leave his post-so much so, he's become delusional about his true standing as POTUS. for him, it's the best place he'd ever imagine having gotten entrance to. okay, if you were serious a thumb up for having asked.
I do wish there was a way for many of David's interviews to be better known and available to much, much wider audiences, both in the US and abroad. He seems to be one of the most level-headed, well informed hosts of shows that discuss political and sociological phenomena on YT, and his interviews are very understandable and easy to listen to, extremely informative, while he is neither attacking nor being disrespectfull to anyone. His fairness when discussing most difficult and divisive topics are truly refreshing, and his calm manner and complete lack of aggressive politicizing could build a bridge and reach the other side, in this era of bitter division between two political sides. He deserves far more credits and a far larger audience.
Caligula had a kid's head cut off because he wouldn't stop coughing. In Robert Graves 'I Claudius' Caligula's obsession with the coughing kept him up at night hearing it in his head until he had the child beheaded.
Fits the slime ball that lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Dump the conman and take back our country. Vote blue in 2020 please. Our country deserves and depends on it.
All elected professional liars. Not relative to party. How many countries has the US destroyed in the last twenty years? Both parties are on the same team. They distract us with nonsense.
@@d4mdcykey Just curious that Trump wasn't here for his diagnosis. Strange, ain't it? These guys have never met him. This whole idea is a rehash from 2016 . Most people seem to be aware that american culture as a whole has a nasty cluster b streak. But NOPE, not anyone commenting!
@@richardmetzger2574 ~ _"Just curious that Trump wasn't here for his diagnosis. Strange, ain't it? These guys have never met him."_ This was specifically addressed in the video, so...I say again, you don't pay attention very well. Appreciate the confirmation.
This is such a great interview. Not because I happen to agree with much of it, but it truly does a great job of articulating the specific points that support how dangerous our POTUS is.
Glad to see you talk about this. I've been talking about the concept of sociopaths running a country forever. It's quite sad but also obvious... progress shouldn't and wouldn't move so slow if more people in power had empathy.
And the interesting thing about all these personality disorders including narcissistic personality disorder is that these people are not aware that they have the problem. It is called ego syntonic. This is why it is a challenge to treat these disorders since how can they be helped if they cannot even realize they have the problem in the first place.
There is more footage of Trump speaking in far more varied contexts than you could ever possibly hope to gather from a given patient in person. The Goldwater rule was crafted in an era where the sheer amount of data we have on trump at our fingertips was unimaginable.
@Mikko Tuuri Wow what to unpack here first. Joe is less than Ideal but he didn't barge into changing rooms at his own pageants. I would love to give Trump credit for his stance on wars but he undermined it at every turn. What ever he went in wanting, he let the war hawks run rampant, even dropping the largest non-nuclear bombs in the arsenal. He is damn lucky he didn't start a war with Iran and it was only by their self restraint it didn't happen. The only war he semi retreated from was the one front where everyone agreed they should really keep the Kurds from being slaughtered (causing a bunch of isis fighters to escape btw). On that note, giving him credit for actions any president would have taken on isis is pretty worthless.
Wow!!! I’ve really learnt something in this interview, thank you David, a lot but not all world leaders, CEO’s, politicians and Religious leaders depict this trait, it’s like they have to fight to stay on top of the pile by behaving like this.
1:55 His point about the seeming narcissism of expecting people will want to hear what you have to say really hits home with me. I don’t post on social media because I’m chronically ill, and victories feel like bragging and the bad stuff (which would be most of what was posted, since I’m not doing well) would be a pity party. Everyone who is important to me will find out without having to go on Facebook anyway, so why post? I’d not pick and choose and curate it so I seem well, but then compared to all the curated profiles, I look even more whiny. I’m a writer, and growing up I felt my ability wasn’t anything to write home about. It took a lot of time to see I did have an unusual amount of talent. I’m still working through how narcissistic it feels to say, “My writing is great! Pay money and spend the time to read these several hundred pages of a story I came up with! Don’t read something else or do anything else with that time, this is worth it!” It feels kind of gross in a way. But... my characters deserve to live outside of my head. And no one else will advocate as strongly for them as I can. Still. It just takes getting used to. It feels weird and kind of wrong. At least in politics, I’d be trying to make a change in the world and help people, cause actionable change. Reading can be such a blessing for people, an outlet or an escape, a way to savor victories and mourn defeats, so it’s not like it’s useless. But still, my readers could be reading the classics instead of my work. That’s... humbling and intimidating in equal measure. I guess all I can do is my best to be worthy of that belief in my work to repay them. It’s still going to take a while through. 😂
I love that he was honest about this being a left and right issue. It's not about politics. It's about personality, and most politicians are likely somewhere on that spectrum. Trump's overt style of narcissism is transparent and easy to see. He writes it on Twitter, he says the words explicitly, he's outrageous and self-incriminating. The right tends to be more characteristic of the overt abusive characters who actually look like wolves. Despite their obviousness, they often get away with it because people are afraid of them or they see them as strength and that makes them feel safe. The left tends to be more characteristic of the covert style of abuse. It's very hidden. It's disguised as charity, altruism and false humility but it's working quietly behind the scenes, doing exactly the opposite of the image it portrays in public. Its outward form is elegant and sophisticated. Covert abusive tactics are very stealth and always come with a wrapper of plausible deniability so it's very difficult to identify it as abuse and for that reason, they can get away with that much more. Most people see them as upright pillars of society and the family. They are the wolves in sheep's clothing and in my opinion, that is far more dangerous because of the public perception that they manage.
5:00 - I'm sick of this tired line about how a clinical psychologist can't diagnose a personality disorder in someone without meeting them first when it's someone who lives their life so completely in the public eye as celebrities and public figures on reality television, politics, and social media. I could point to a few other people that exemplify this, but old Bankrupt Donny is probably the most easily diagnosed individual on the planet with all of his damage and disorders being rubbed in our faces like a puppy's mess on an expensive rug. We all know the emperor has no clothes - mental health professionals need to stop pretending like they can't say professionally what's obvious to the rest of us.
There are some professionals who believe *Duty to Warn* trumps the Goldwater Rule. It's a way to let people know someone is dangerous. The link below is a group of professionals who are warning about Trump in no uncertain terms. [Disclaimer: I personally benefited from a duty to warn notice from the therapist of a friend who had a psychotic break not long after I romantically rejected him (it didn't cause it but it made it worse) - a phone call that might have saved my life, so I'm biased towards that rule.] www.adutytowarn.org
@@gregoryhutto1963 While I understand the professional concern I don't think the same standards need apply when someone is going out of their way to live their life on the public stage. The people who are obsessed with being in the public eye are doing enough harm to themselves and the people around them that any social damage that might come from making a diagnosis is probably moot. I don't think that Donald Trump (or Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, etc.) would give a damn what some clinical psychologist has to say - especially on some lefty Internet show. But I also understand that it isn't about them but your own professional integrity that matters.
@@gregoryhutto1963 Fair points all. These interviews are coy little games - I'll come on your show and dance and sing for the audience right up to the line of using diagnostic terminology but no, no, no - a clinical diagnosis is a bridge too far. I probably should stop playing if I think the game is stupid, no?
It's a symbiotic relationship with voters' eagerness to have what they want a candidate to be and to that end they'll tweak reality as much as they have to in order to make the fit. Then they hit enter and it's done.
The real problem is not that Trump is a pitiful example of a human being. It's that millions of people can't or don't want to admit that he is the worst kind of person to even tolerate.Nevermind have him as president.
As an Australian who didn't quite finish his degree in political science, I'm very intetested in the way that your political system works. The Electoral College is in my opinion, archaic. Here in Australia, it's MANDATORY that you vote. We have a two party system. We also have a PREFERENTIAL system of which I am not a fan. If I choose to not vote for one of the two major parties, Labor or Liberal, then I don't want my vote for a minor party going to either of them.. One vote, one value.
"so, i am not supposed to diagnose people i have not met, so i will not do that. but this is a list of characteristic traits and Trump fulfills all of them."
The sad thing is that the majority of people simply don't care enough, and aren't thoughtful enough, to critically analyse such thing as the warning signs of authoritarianism, and the psychological characteristics of leaders that are dangerous and harmful to the people they lead. This sort of stuff should be taught in schools - a functioning democracy that is stable, and doesn't risk deteriorating into autocracy, depends on the electorate being, at least mostly well informed. When you dumb down the electorate, undermine their education, and discourage critical thought, you end up with a people that will elect someone who just might try end this business of electing leaders. This is why imposing democracy on a people generally fails - if democracy is given from the outside to a people who are used to authoritarian leaders and their style, they are likely to elect an authoritarian, and the democracy will be short lived, or deteriorate into a pseudo-democracy, like has happened in Russia. For democracy to work, the people must first adopt and understand democratic principles, the "enlightenment era" ideals, learn a bit about the mistakes of history, and how authoritarians have rarely been good for their people. Only after a majority of the population has adopted these views and learned this information, can democracy survive and be stable. The United States of America is playing with fire, letting great masses be uneducated and distracted by shiny objects. The only reason USA hasn't completely lost it's democracy yet is the checks and balances that your constitution gives you - the checks and balances who's enforcement Trump is now busily testing, with a large part of the electorate completely ignorant of the danger this represents. So thank you David Pakman, for your show and for doing the important task of trying to educate people - you and the other progressive channels on RUclips are vital.
@Bonnie Bagley No, the majority did not, but enough did. The problem is not only the people who voted for the malignant narcissist, but also with the people who restrict their input of news to cable news sources, and thus get only the highly biased pro-neo-liberal corporatist view of things. It is ultimately these people that resulted in president Trump - because they elected, in the primary, the corporate favourite, who happened to be also one of the most intensely disliked democrats out there, among those that don't get all their news from corporate cable channels. This, and the pure arrogance of the Hillary campaign in ignoring the alarms of danger, and the offer of help from the Bernie campaign in the general, meant that the (very considerable) minority that was susceptible to the charms of the autocrat got their way. The misinformation goes deep, and is not restricted to one party. The corporatists are a cross party interest - they include the wholly bought Republicans, and the mostly bought Democrats, and all the Cable News channels, to varying degrees. The greatest danger in 2020, is that the corporate media and the corporate democrats have not learned anything at all from the Clinton loss. They are pushing Biden now, Clinton 2.0, and using the very same tactics that lost to Trump the last time. This is why these progressive channels on RUclips are absolutely vital. Without them, there's no chance of defeating the corporate behemoth, no chance of saving the country from it's own tragic ignorance.
Milania watches a chunk of their income and makes sure the personal bills get paid so they have been staying out of bankruptcy, the same as how the first wife did.
It would be wonderful if BERNIE COULD GET SOME SERIOUS Physiological advice and guidance because talking to a NARC feels like going down a rabbit hole... it happens so fast too -getting caught up and triggered in what NARCS say. It's almost like NARCS are masters at confusing and mixing up the conversation. Never staying focused or on point. All over the place!! Talking to someone like that is NOT EASY!
This is a good conversation but you guys didn't consider how desperate people in this country are for changes. I believe trump is a symptom of the unease that many people feel and live in their daily lives. Mainly atrubuted to policies and a system that favor companies and the extremely wealthy over its citizens. And untill we address these issues people like trump will always have a way of latching on to peoples fear.
i had the extreme displeasure of working with an extreme narcissist for three years before trump was e;ected. it was a nightmare... however, she was intelligent and talented and outgrew it with age... i am glad i got exposed to her, though, or i would have never been able to 'grok' trump...
This man is a tree without roots, he is surviving on top soil, look at the people he attract. His dialogue is like Jell-O, if heat gets to it, it melts. No foundation.
Interesting to see this video 4 years later with all that is going on right now. November 16, 2023, less than a year out from the Election of 2024, with Trump the apparent Republican nominee again. And facing 91 felony charges in 4 jurisdictions plus a civil case. Talk about insanity!!! David, I don't know if your channel released this again or if RUclips just put it in my feed, but I'm glad it showed up. I am going to watch this again right now because this topic is STILL TIMELY, unfortunately. Please people, VOTE BLUE 💙 LET'S BUILD A BLUE 💙 WAVE 🌊🌊🌊 BIDEN 2024 🌊🌊🌊
I despise Trump, love Bernie. but why is it okay to talk about Trump's mental health and illnesses but it was taboo to talk about Hillary Clinton in the same fashion
@Anthony Slaga ok but I'm talking about just specifically questioning their health. not so much voting. everyone can speculate about Trump's mental health, which I have no problem with at all. but in 2016 when Hillary fell out for no reason, and had some other blips that seemed strange and could be potentially attributed to mental health, no one was allowed to speculate about it besides accepting what their team had put out. I don't really think there's anything wrong with her, but she is also a habitual liar (not one bit excusing Trump's lies at all) and the way she laughed about the killing of Qaddafi is extremely strange to me.
Hume told us that emotion wins over reason every time... we make decisions base on emotion then rationalize them. People mistake HCP for strength they push the emotion buttons and people go with them and rationalize their decision. People are hopeless.
I believe ALL leaders have sociopathic tendencies to some extent, and perhaps some narcissistic tendencies as well - people who don't have them do not want to be leaders and don't seek position of power: if they end up at the top they usually reluctantly accept that position under pressure from others and be willing to let go as soon as they can.
@Mikko Tuuri greetings from Canada. Life's not fair, and there is no sympathy for assholes who whinge about it. When you act like an asshole, there is no sense in crying, when you get treated like an asshole. Trump learned that the hard way. All his supporters want to do is tell me how brainwashed I am by media, that I dont even watch. It's usually the first thing out of your mouths. None of you are credible enough to tell anyone they are brainwashed, when you all worship one man like a cult. I'm not trying to change your mind, because I dont care about you or your problems with the world. It's your problems, not mine.
The one narcissist I knew was a fooler because she was one of the more passive agressive ones - the type I'm a great artist but the world doesn't recognise my genius type.
Narcissism is everywhere in our atomized contemporary culture. In many ways it is a psychological defense mechanism against dehumanization & conformity. Psychopathy is a different category entirely. As is malignant narcissism. tRump checks off the criteria for both.
Saddest part of this conversation,..... the shoe fits almost all the suits in corporate and government and military positions of power all over this country.
I'm hard pressed to say Donald Trump has a personality disorder. Disorder suggests something went wrong. Trump's personality is entirely by design, and not his own. He was trained by another malignant narcissist, his father. Taught to never compromise, dominate every situation, always be the man with the plan, make everything about himself. If you get a pit-bull, train it from a puppy to be aggressive and violent toward other dogs, it's a problem for sure, but it's not like its behavior won't be entirely predictable. We'd have to totally deprogram Trump, and he doesn't have the years it would take to do that, neither do we.
Thank You! I mean, seriously. this is what happens when you're brainwashed by a father whose not only rich and owns businesses, but also worked for the KKK. Also said, "You gotta be a killer, you gotta be a king!" every day.
Why, David Pakman, are you airing a person who says "I think Donald Trump pretended to be someone else in an interview once" when we have multiple recording evidence of Trump doing this many times over? This needs correction.
I would be interested in the personality characteristics that are possessed by someone who would support this type of narcissist. What makes someone a Trumpie? (Other than low education)
It would be a good idea if BERNIE SANDERS could get some serious physcological advise and guidance dealing with a NARC b4 debating djt. Talking to a NARC is like falling down a rabbit hole. NARCS are masters at confusing and twisting a conversation.
unity love- Bernie is logical, smart, and has named Trump as a narcissist, liar, and a fraud. He chooses his words carefully. He’s got this and will confront the naughty idiot man-child Drump, like a professor with superpowers.
At this time in history and in this country these types are more likely to be right wing. Decades ago in other countries there were left leaning narcissistic types as well.
I don't support the Chavez reference as it relates to fake crisis etc. He DID pull many people out of poverty. He could have just skipped out with all the money without doing a thing to help his people like so many other dictators...
Oh hey, David, speaking of mental health; have you taken your alprazolam, Lexapro, Seroquel, and female sex hormone replacement today? You know you have to treat your TDS, etc. etc.
Go and watch the movie Split, Trump has all the personalities from that movie and more. I'm from the UK and our politics are fucked up right now, but America has slumped so far with that gibbon in office it's scary. I'm just one UK guy thinking of our friends over the pond.
I suspect that something insidious has been nurtured within the consciousness of many Americans within the last 25 Years or so. Maybe I am wrong about his but in around 1994 I cannot imagine that so many relatively normal Americans would have so insanely embraced Trump. These people for whatever reason have become even more susceptible to Trump like rhetoric & personality manipulation, well enhanced by his show business approach to inciting his followers. Their brains are sadly refusing or unable to view the man behind the show & THEY need to engage whatever GREY MATTER is for them is still possible.
authoritarrians appear on both sides. On the right is mainly around who people are such as nationalism or individual identity. On the left is based around group identity for example Hitler went after the Jews because of their racial identity. While Mao Zedong went after imperialists and bourgeois elitist because the group they belong to.
He looks and sounds like a decent doctor, idk if he actually is one though (im not googling him). If he is a real doctor, what'd you bring him on for, exactly? His expert opinion? He even says he never met the fkin guy, so why does his opinion mean anything? Im a shitposter in the comment section and i could attribute the exact same characteristics to Trump as he did. You needed a doctor to tell you about his personality, and that he's a narcissist? Really? You could ask a drunk, sleeping homeless man in the dead of winter about Trump and hell tell you that. Why WHY did you bring a doctor on your show to tell us this. Stop wasting time feeding into the TDS, you can do sooo much better David. I loved you on JRE
Every other politician isn't like that. And you're the one who's easy to fool if you can't see that. If you can't see there is a big difference between Trump and Sanders for instance, you're blind.
Isn't this your third or fourth time you bring in some "Mental Health Pro" to remote diagnose him of some disorders? Don't get me wrong - it's not that I disagree... but the point has been made again...and again...and again...and again...
Not a fan of doctors who do this sort of thing. APA President Maria A. Oquendo wrote: "The unique atmosphere of this year's election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible."
Gee, I wonder where the worst place for a narcissist is? The White House would be my guess.
@DATING HARLEY QUINN Also that he is (that) malignant. I grew up with a mother with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and while she may be malignant to a degree, she would also refer to herself as a humanist and get off of herself being that great and she would most definitely be the most left-wing president the US ever had. But a president like Trump who's that malignant and racist and misogynistic ... that's the worst case scenario.
excuse me but playing the devil's advocate, i'd say it's the Best place! ;)
Raykibb No mentally healthy person thinks “gee, I should be president of the whole country!” That takes narcissism to some degree.
@claire bigelow because narcissists love and thrive on power. the presidency is a seat of high power. therefore, it'd be ideal for a power hungry bloke such as a narcissist. Trump doesn't want to leave his post-so much so, he's become delusional about his true standing as POTUS. for him, it's the best place he'd ever imagine having gotten entrance to. okay, if you were serious a thumb up for having asked.
Maybe China where their president kills babies and steals organs
I do wish there was a way for many of David's interviews to be better known and available to much, much wider audiences, both in the US and abroad. He seems to be one of the most level-headed, well informed hosts of shows that discuss political and sociological phenomena on YT, and his interviews are very understandable and easy to listen to, extremely informative, while he is neither attacking nor being disrespectfull to anyone. His fairness when discussing most difficult and divisive topics are truly refreshing, and his calm manner and complete lack of aggressive politicizing could build a bridge and reach the other side, in this era of bitter division between two political sides. He deserves far more credits and a far larger audience.
William Barr, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, all come to mind along with orange hemorrhoid-in-chief.
What about sen. Linsey Graham
What about mitch McConnel
Stop denigrating hemorrhoids, they are better to live with than Trump
Getting super annoyed/borderline enraged at being interrupted is a sure sign of narcissism *cough cough*
Who does that?
*Coughing intensifies nervously*
Caligula had a kid's head cut off because he wouldn't stop coughing. In Robert Graves 'I Claudius' Caligula's obsession with the coughing kept him up at night hearing it in his head until he had the child beheaded.
Fits the slime ball that lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Dump the conman and take back our country. Vote blue in 2020 please. Our country deserves and depends on it.
Take it back? Where did it go?
Oh, you didn't mean take america back...you were referring to political power.
We have a huge problem that needs to be corrected immediately.
High conflict personality fixation on blaming other people? That's the entire Republican party!
Brian Giblin Yeah blaming people for higher taxes when they keep voting for higher taxes doesn't make any sense at al. Bernie/Cortez 2020!😲👍
No Cortez on Bernie or any ticket. You have to be 35 to be president, which means you have to be 35 to be VP. She’s only 30.
MP197742 Change the age to 18 then, it's opressive to young adults and they never make terrible decisions you Nazis!😲👊
All elected professional liars. Not relative to party. How many countries has the US destroyed in the last twenty years? Both parties are on the same team. They distract us with nonsense.
Matt Phillips Those liars still have to get reelected. I don't care why Trump is doing what he is doing I'm just glad someone is.
Highly informative, relevant, and starkly revealing interview into that black hole trump calls his brain.
with hope, there’s an aneurysm in that black hole that will pop like a zit, very soon..
Its a view into the black hole that is this guys perception. Not much to do with Trump himself here really.
@@richardmetzger2574 ~ So...to sum up, you don't pay attention very well. Duly noted.
@@d4mdcykey Just curious that Trump wasn't here for his diagnosis. Strange, ain't it? These guys have never met him.
This whole idea is a rehash from 2016 .
Most people seem to be aware that american culture as a whole has a nasty cluster b streak. But NOPE, not anyone commenting!
@@richardmetzger2574 ~ _"Just curious that Trump wasn't here for his diagnosis. Strange, ain't it? These guys have never met him."_
This was specifically addressed in the video, so...I say again, you don't pay attention very well. Appreciate the confirmation.
Thank you for this video, David. This is so important.
This is CRAZY ! Sociopaths are usually charismatic characters. They make for great cult leaders.
San Miguel TV they also dont care about people and they are very impulsive, so not good for a president
San Miguel TV take Hitler
45 is a coward.
This is such a great interview. Not because I happen to agree with much of it, but it truly does a great job of articulating the specific points that support how dangerous our POTUS is.
Am absolutely getting his book. So INTERESTING.
we definately need to keep psychos out of power
Glad to see you talk about this. I've been talking about the concept of sociopaths running a country forever. It's quite sad but also obvious... progress shouldn't and wouldn't move so slow if more people in power had empathy.
Excellent interview.
Trump probably spends several hours a day sitting in his office trying to figure out why is so wonderful
The best way to diagnose a person is to watch them a real life. That rule of no diagnosis unless therapist meets the person is obsolete.
Great discussion.. very good Questions for the Doctor and he answered them in understandable terms.
And the interesting thing about all these personality disorders including narcissistic personality disorder is that these people are not aware that they have the problem. It is called ego syntonic. This is why it is a challenge to treat these disorders since how can they be helped if they cannot even realize they have the problem in the first place.
So true!!
There is more footage of Trump speaking in far more varied contexts than you could ever possibly hope to gather from a given patient in person. The Goldwater rule was crafted in an era where the sheer amount of data we have on trump at our fingertips was unimaginable.
@Mikko Tuuri Wow what to unpack here first. Joe is less than Ideal but he didn't barge into changing rooms at his own pageants.
I would love to give Trump credit for his stance on wars but he undermined it at every turn. What ever he went in wanting, he let the war hawks run rampant, even dropping the largest non-nuclear bombs in the arsenal. He is damn lucky he didn't start a war with Iran and it was only by their self restraint it didn't happen. The only war he semi retreated from was the one front where everyone agreed they should really keep the Kurds from being slaughtered (causing a bunch of isis fighters to escape btw). On that note, giving him credit for actions any president would have taken on isis is pretty worthless.
Wow!!! I’ve really learnt something in this interview, thank you David, a lot but not all world leaders, CEO’s, politicians and Religious leaders depict this trait, it’s like they have to fight to stay on top of the pile by behaving like this.
1:55 His point about the seeming narcissism of expecting people will want to hear what you have to say really hits home with me. I don’t post on social media because I’m chronically ill, and victories feel like bragging and the bad stuff (which would be most of what was posted, since I’m not doing well) would be a pity party. Everyone who is important to me will find out without having to go on Facebook anyway, so why post? I’d not pick and choose and curate it so I seem well, but then compared to all the curated profiles, I look even more whiny.
I’m a writer, and growing up I felt my ability wasn’t anything to write home about. It took a lot of time to see I did have an unusual amount of talent. I’m still working through how narcissistic it feels to say, “My writing is great! Pay money and spend the time to read these several hundred pages of a story I came up with! Don’t read something else or do anything else with that time, this is worth it!” It feels kind of gross in a way. But... my characters deserve to live outside of my head. And no one else will advocate as strongly for them as I can.
Still. It just takes getting used to. It feels weird and kind of wrong. At least in politics, I’d be trying to make a change in the world and help people, cause actionable change. Reading can be such a blessing for people, an outlet or an escape, a way to savor victories and mourn defeats, so it’s not like it’s useless. But still, my readers could be reading the classics instead of my work. That’s... humbling and intimidating in equal measure. I guess all I can do is my best to be worthy of that belief in my work to repay them.
It’s still going to take a while through. 😂
I love that he was honest about this being a left and right issue. It's not about politics. It's about personality, and most politicians are likely somewhere on that spectrum. Trump's overt style of narcissism is transparent and easy to see. He writes it on Twitter, he says the words explicitly, he's outrageous and self-incriminating. The right tends to be more characteristic of the overt abusive characters who actually look like wolves. Despite their obviousness, they often get away with it because people are afraid of them or they see them as strength and that makes them feel safe. The left tends to be more characteristic of the covert style of abuse. It's very hidden. It's disguised as charity, altruism and false humility but it's working quietly behind the scenes, doing exactly the opposite of the image it portrays in public. Its outward form is elegant and sophisticated. Covert abusive tactics are very stealth and always come with a wrapper of plausible deniability so it's very difficult to identify it as abuse and for that reason, they can get away with that much more. Most people see them as upright pillars of society and the family. They are the wolves in sheep's clothing and in my opinion, that is far more dangerous because of the public perception that they manage.
well, at the very least, to be considered Serious food for thought for those who are still Unable to READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL!!!
5:00 - I'm sick of this tired line about how a clinical psychologist can't diagnose a personality disorder in someone without meeting them first when it's someone who lives their life so completely in the public eye as celebrities and public figures on reality television, politics, and social media. I could point to a few other people that exemplify this, but old Bankrupt Donny is probably the most easily diagnosed individual on the planet with all of his damage and disorders being rubbed in our faces like a puppy's mess on an expensive rug. We all know the emperor has no clothes - mental health professionals need to stop pretending like they can't say professionally what's obvious to the rest of us.
There are some professionals who believe *Duty to Warn* trumps the Goldwater Rule. It's a way to let people know someone is dangerous. The link below is a group of professionals who are warning about Trump in no uncertain terms.
[Disclaimer: I personally benefited from a duty to warn notice from the therapist of a friend who had a psychotic break not long after I romantically rejected him (it didn't cause it but it made it worse) - a phone call that might have saved my life, so I'm biased towards that rule.]
www.adutytowarn.org
@@gregoryhutto1963 While I understand the professional concern I don't think the same standards need apply when someone is going out of their way to live their life on the public stage. The people who are obsessed with being in the public eye are doing enough harm to themselves and the people around them that any social damage that might come from making a diagnosis is probably moot. I don't think that Donald Trump (or Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, etc.) would give a damn what some clinical psychologist has to say - especially on some lefty Internet show. But I also understand that it isn't about them but your own professional integrity that matters.
@@gregoryhutto1963 Fair points all. These interviews are coy little games - I'll come on your show and dance and sing for the audience right up to the line of using diagnostic terminology but no, no, no - a clinical diagnosis is a bridge too far. I probably should stop playing if I think the game is stupid, no?
David! You should bring this video back around for the campaign. Plus, who doesn't love Bill Eddy?
It's a symbiotic relationship with voters' eagerness to have what they want a candidate to be and to that end they'll tweak reality as much as they have to in order to make the fit. Then they hit enter and it's done.
Also known as " Veruca Salt Syndrome"
He's a stable genius and a rocket scientist !! 🤔
RUclips has some great info on NARCS. I would highly suggest for anyone to educate yourself on this disorder.
Perhaps election candidates should be screened for psychiatric symptoms
What I'm wondering is, when he's going to leave the white house, will he do so or will he try and stay in power in some way?
He think people want him to stay past 2 terms Scary
The real problem is not that Trump is a pitiful example of a human being. It's that millions of people can't or don't want to admit that he is the worst kind of person to even tolerate.Nevermind have him as president.
As an Australian who didn't quite finish his degree in political science, I'm very intetested in the way that your political system works. The Electoral College is in my opinion, archaic. Here in Australia, it's MANDATORY that you vote. We have a two party system. We also have a PREFERENTIAL system of which I am not a fan. If I choose to not vote for one of the two major parties, Labor or Liberal, then I don't want my vote for a minor party going to either of them.. One vote, one value.
"so, i am not supposed to diagnose people i have not met, so i will not do that. but this is a list of characteristic traits and Trump fulfills all of them."
The sad thing is that the majority of people simply don't care enough, and aren't thoughtful enough, to critically analyse such thing as the warning signs of authoritarianism, and the psychological characteristics of leaders that are dangerous and harmful to the people they lead. This sort of stuff should be taught in schools - a functioning democracy that is stable, and doesn't risk deteriorating into autocracy, depends on the electorate being, at least mostly well informed.
When you dumb down the electorate, undermine their education, and discourage critical thought, you end up with a people that will elect someone who just might try end this business of electing leaders. This is why imposing democracy on a people generally fails - if democracy is given from the outside to a people who are used to authoritarian leaders and their style, they are likely to elect an authoritarian, and the democracy will be short lived, or deteriorate into a pseudo-democracy, like has happened in Russia.
For democracy to work, the people must first adopt and understand democratic principles, the "enlightenment era" ideals, learn a bit about the mistakes of history, and how authoritarians have rarely been good for their people. Only after a majority of the population has adopted these views and learned this information, can democracy survive and be stable.
The United States of America is playing with fire, letting great masses be uneducated and distracted by shiny objects. The only reason USA hasn't completely lost it's democracy yet is the checks and balances that your constitution gives you - the checks and balances who's enforcement Trump is now busily testing, with a large part of the electorate completely ignorant of the danger this represents.
So thank you David Pakman, for your show and for doing the important task of trying to educate people - you and the other progressive channels on RUclips are vital.
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@Bonnie Bagley No, the majority did not, but enough did. The problem is not only the people who voted for the malignant narcissist, but also with the people who restrict their input of news to cable news sources, and thus get only the highly biased pro-neo-liberal corporatist view of things.
It is ultimately these people that resulted in president Trump - because they elected, in the primary, the corporate favourite, who happened to be also one of the most intensely disliked democrats out there, among those that don't get all their news from corporate cable channels.
This, and the pure arrogance of the Hillary campaign in ignoring the alarms of danger, and the offer of help from the Bernie campaign in the general, meant that the (very considerable) minority that was susceptible to the charms of the autocrat got their way.
The misinformation goes deep, and is not restricted to one party. The corporatists are a cross party interest - they include the wholly bought Republicans, and the mostly bought Democrats, and all the Cable News channels, to varying degrees.
The greatest danger in 2020, is that the corporate media and the corporate democrats have not learned anything at all from the Clinton loss. They are pushing Biden now, Clinton 2.0, and using the very same tactics that lost to Trump the last time.
This is why these progressive channels on RUclips are absolutely vital. Without them, there's no chance of defeating the corporate behemoth, no chance of saving the country from it's own tragic ignorance.
Milania watches a chunk of their income and makes sure the personal bills get paid so they have been staying out of bankruptcy, the same as how the first wife did.
What is wrong with a person's character that they vote for Trump and similar types?
Well I know what the next book I'm reading is.
Yes you can, yes you can compare people today to hitler, when they are like hitler.
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I believe Bernie Sanders is suitable for this technique.
It would be wonderful if BERNIE COULD GET SOME SERIOUS Physiological advice and guidance because talking to a NARC feels like going down a rabbit hole... it happens so fast too -getting caught up and triggered in what NARCS say. It's almost like NARCS are masters at confusing and mixing up the conversation. Never staying focused or on point. All over the place!! Talking to someone like that is NOT EASY!
Yep.
Not just trickle down economics…Trickle down behavior should be our primary concern
I think sometimes I would like to know what it's like to live a guilt free life. But I'd probably just feel guilty about not feeling guilty.
All you need to get on in business / politics is a lack of empathy, easy peasy ,step on heads to get up and pull any ladders up after yourself
Very interesting show.
This is a good conversation but you guys didn't consider how desperate people in this country are for changes. I believe trump is a symptom of the unease that many people feel and live in their daily lives. Mainly atrubuted to policies and a system that favor companies and the extremely wealthy over its citizens. And untill we address these issues people like trump will always have a way of latching on to peoples fear.
If we can stop Trump from talking or tweeting he will be a lot less dangerous.
The first amendment still exists no matter how stupid and harmful a person is
sounds like a good book that should be mandatory reading in schools
Truth is known and heartfelt.
“You mean 10 times more information?”
“10 times more often.”
Lol
i had the extreme displeasure of working with an extreme narcissist for three years before trump was e;ected. it was a nightmare... however, she was intelligent and talented and outgrew it with age... i am glad i got exposed to her, though, or i would have never been able to 'grok' trump...
Jimmy TheBold upvote for “grok”. God rest your soul, Heinlein.
this is where the focus belongs
This man is a tree without roots, he is surviving on top soil, look at the people he attract. His dialogue is like Jell-O, if heat gets to it, it melts. No foundation.
Interesting to see this video 4 years later with all that is going on right now. November 16, 2023, less than a year out from the Election of 2024, with Trump the apparent Republican nominee again. And facing 91 felony charges in 4 jurisdictions plus a civil case. Talk about insanity!!!
David, I don't know if your channel released this again or if RUclips just put it in my feed, but I'm glad it showed up. I am going to watch this again right now because this topic is STILL TIMELY, unfortunately.
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Is trump a Sociopath or a psychopath? I'm thinking psychopath.
Both.
Those terms don’t really have established separate meanings. They both mean anti-social
I despise Trump, love Bernie. but why is it okay to talk about Trump's mental health and illnesses but it was taboo to talk about Hillary Clinton in the same fashion
@Anthony Slaga ok but I'm talking about just specifically questioning their health. not so much voting. everyone can speculate about Trump's mental health, which I have no problem with at all. but in 2016 when Hillary fell out for no reason, and had some other blips that seemed strange and could be potentially attributed to mental health, no one was allowed to speculate about it besides accepting what their team had put out. I don't really think there's anything wrong with her, but she is also a habitual liar (not one bit excusing Trump's lies at all) and the way she laughed about the killing of Qaddafi is extremely strange to me.
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On a scale of 1 to 10 (worst), Clinton is probably a 5. Trump is like a 1000 and beyond.
Hume told us that emotion wins over reason every time... we make decisions base on emotion then rationalize them. People mistake HCP for strength they push the emotion buttons and people go with them and rationalize their decision. People are hopeless.
I believe ALL leaders have sociopathic tendencies to some extent, and perhaps some narcissistic tendencies as well - people who don't have them do not want to be leaders and don't seek position of power: if they end up at the top they usually reluctantly accept that position under pressure from others and be willing to let go as soon as they can.
Very wise.
People elect narcissists because they're fooled by them. Then they have buyers' remorse.
Demagogues have always been democracy's most glaring vulnerability, since it's first inception in Athens.
@Mikko Tuuri greetings from Canada. Life's not fair, and there is no sympathy for assholes who whinge about it. When you act like an asshole, there is no sense in crying, when you get treated like an asshole. Trump learned that the hard way.
All his supporters want to do is tell me how brainwashed I am by media, that I dont even watch. It's usually the first thing out of your mouths. None of you are credible enough to tell anyone they are brainwashed, when you all worship one man like a cult.
I'm not trying to change your mind, because I dont care about you or your problems with the world. It's your problems, not mine.
The one narcissist I knew was a fooler because she was one of the more passive agressive ones - the type I'm a great artist but the world doesn't recognise my genius type.
Narcissism is everywhere in our atomized contemporary culture. In many ways it is a psychological defense mechanism against dehumanization & conformity. Psychopathy is a different category entirely. As is malignant narcissism. tRump checks off the criteria for both.
I live in Australia.
I have never elected a sociopath........
Update needed
Tulsi doesn't seem to have any of the symptoms.
Saddest part of this conversation,..... the shoe fits almost all the suits in corporate and government and military positions of power all over this country.
This video should be played every day to the public... and now we need to figure out why the followers, follow him. Don't they see this behavior?
I'm hard pressed to say Donald Trump has a personality disorder. Disorder suggests something went wrong. Trump's personality is entirely by design, and not his own. He was trained by another malignant narcissist, his father. Taught to never compromise, dominate every situation, always be the man with the plan, make everything about himself. If you get a pit-bull, train it from a puppy to be aggressive and violent toward other dogs, it's a problem for sure, but it's not like its behavior won't be entirely predictable. We'd have to totally deprogram Trump, and he doesn't have the years it would take to do that, neither do we.
Thank You! I mean, seriously. this is what happens when you're brainwashed by a father whose not only rich and owns businesses, but also worked for the KKK. Also said, "You gotta be a killer, you gotta be a king!" every day.
This is true of every single person who has ever held elected office.
Why, David Pakman, are you airing a person who says "I think Donald Trump pretended to be someone else in an interview once" when we have multiple recording evidence of Trump doing this many times over? This needs correction.
I would be interested in the personality characteristics that are possessed by someone who would support this type of narcissist. What makes someone a Trumpie? (Other than low education)
It would be a good idea if BERNIE SANDERS could get some serious physcological advise and guidance dealing with a NARC b4 debating djt. Talking to a NARC is like falling down a rabbit hole. NARCS are masters at confusing and twisting a conversation.
unity love- Bernie is logical, smart, and has named Trump as a narcissist, liar, and a fraud. He chooses his words carefully. He’s got this and will confront the naughty idiot man-child Drump, like a professor with superpowers.
J G 187 on a undercover cop 🎶
A mental asylum not the white house ……………how &why the GOP nominated him as president is a puzzle.....
When it cones to power, I'll wear a Faraday suit. Thank you.
At this time in history and in this country these types are more likely to be right wing. Decades ago in other countries there were left leaning narcissistic types as well.
I don't support the Chavez reference as it relates to fake crisis etc. He DID pull many people out of poverty. He could have just skipped out with all the money without doing a thing to help his people like so many other dictators...
Oh hey, David, speaking of mental health; have you taken your alprazolam, Lexapro, Seroquel, and female sex hormone replacement today? You know you have to treat your TDS, etc. etc.
Go and watch the movie Split, Trump has all the personalities from that movie and more. I'm from the UK and our politics are fucked up right now, but America has slumped so far with that gibbon in office it's scary. I'm just one UK guy thinking of our friends over the pond.
Dear Bill Eddy: “etc.”, et cetera is not pronounced “eksetera”.
I suspect that something insidious has been nurtured within the consciousness of many Americans within the last 25 Years or so. Maybe I am wrong about his but in around 1994 I cannot imagine that so many relatively normal Americans would have so insanely embraced Trump. These people for whatever reason have become even more susceptible to Trump like rhetoric & personality manipulation, well enhanced by his show business approach to inciting his followers. Their brains are sadly refusing or unable to view the man behind the show & THEY need to engage whatever GREY MATTER is for them is still possible.
I'm gonna laugh so hard if Marianne Williamson kills it against Bernie and Biden...LMAO and a half!!!!!!
I admire Donnie Bonespurs as much as I admire a giant pile of dog poop out on my lawn.
Humans was a dumb idea.
Time to make the singularity so we can have better smarter robot politicians.
'Humans was a dumb idea' is a religious claim.
This describes Boris Johnson in the uk!
Yeah well, he WILL care. His days are numbered.
I have a great uncle Bill Eddy. Not the same guy though :P
authoritarrians appear on both sides. On the right is mainly around who people are such as nationalism or individual identity. On the left is based around group identity for example Hitler went after the Jews because of their racial identity. While Mao Zedong went after imperialists and bourgeois elitist because the group they belong to.
Add Netanyahoo to the list.
He looks and sounds like a decent doctor, idk if he actually is one though (im not googling him). If he is a real doctor, what'd you bring him on for, exactly? His expert opinion? He even says he never met the fkin guy, so why does his opinion mean anything? Im a shitposter in the comment section and i could attribute the exact same characteristics to Trump as he did. You needed a doctor to tell you about his personality, and that he's a narcissist? Really? You could ask a drunk, sleeping homeless man in the dead of winter about Trump and hell tell you that.
Why WHY did you bring a doctor on your show to tell us this. Stop wasting time feeding into the TDS, you can do sooo much better David. I loved you on JRE
Yeah, he’s a politician. If you don’t think every other politician is like that then I have ocean front property in Kansas I’d love to sell you.
Every other politician isn't like that. And you're the one who's easy to fool if you can't see that. If you can't see there is a big difference between Trump and Sanders for instance, you're blind.
Bit insensitive to mental illness sufferers, particularly as "sociopath" isn't an actual medical term
And this fool is your president i feel sorry for you all.
In this video you can replace trumps name with 'cops in America',
they have the same attitude,
Dark Matter 187 on a undercover cop 🎶
The 25th
Probably a dead body away from a serial killer too
Isn't this your third or fourth time you bring in some "Mental Health Pro" to remote diagnose him of some disorders? Don't get me wrong - it's not that I disagree... but the point has been made again...and again...and again...and again...
Stash needs a trim.
Ya but what about Hillary's emails?
What about Trump's tweets?
He's not a pro if he is armchair diagnosing. Just put 'amateur' or 'entertainer' for accuracies sake.
Anyone with any knowledge on NPD...knows DJT suffers from NPD. IT'S CLEAR AND OBVIOUS! but OK if you need classification.
I haven't met the guy, so...
I am not narcissistic enough to diagnose him from afar
Funny how narcissism works.
Richard Metzger- Licensed Practitioners are qualified, and you sir Trumptard, are not. 💯
Holy Shit see that all time record Economy, and all time recoed low unemployment....IF thats crazy, Give me more crazy....and less Obama/Biden lazy.
Not a fan of doctors who do this sort of thing.
APA President Maria A. Oquendo wrote: "The unique atmosphere of this year's election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible."
Lol