This ENTIRE class of instruments, (Straylight, Hybrid Keys, Ethereal Earth, Analog Dreams, etc) is where Native Instruments is now REALLY knocking it out of the park! Well done NI! These are PURE PERFORMANCE instruments well suited for live, spontaneous jamming in real time in an electronic musician group setting. These instruments, along with my Machine Mikro Mk3 and my Komplete Kontrol M32, make for the perfect portable live setup. Thanks again NI! Been using your stuff since Generator and Transformator. Yes, I'm old!
I remember when the Ensoniq and Akai samplers first came out. I was a salesman at Werlein’s for Music in New Orleans. I had some crazy ideas of how do use the sample capability on those machines, but they just wouldn’t work. They glitched and glitched and glitched. However, Straylight and Pharlight have accomplished what I’’ve dreamed of for years. I have kept up my Collectors Eddition for updates and I am so glad I did the update on XIII.
This is all good and gravy but If one knows synthesis one can create every sound this Instrument offers with a combination of Absynth + Massive and sound fx plugins. Native Instruments REALLY need to focus on making some Vocals-based/Choirs Kontakt libraries. Becuase that is the only department where they are lacking and Komplete Ultimate owners like me have to rely on third-party libraries for vocals & choirs. I hope they will soon release some Kontakt libraries like Output's Exhale plus some Male-female Vocal-Choir libraries.
I don't think the synths you mention support granular synthesis. Omnisphere could probably do it. It is a bit of a shame you can't drag in your own samples, but the whole point of granular synthesis is to discover microsounds in existing stuff. So I'd probably never get to load my own samples anyway...
Ankit Sharma your not wrong, but there is an aspect of ‘careful and deliberate curation of sample sources’ with this instrument that I personally like. moving through the library you quickly find exactly the kind of sound you want with exactly the kind of control you want. This is both Kontakt’s Achilles heel and a deliberate decision of the products development. For those into sound designing, cinematic music, game music etc it’s ‘Honey for Bee’s’ Basically it’s un apologetic indulgence in the audio domain. Walk on bye if you can. 🤑
0:31 Performance view. The X-Y pad. 4 macro controls. 1:03 Snapshot browser 1:47 The granular engine and sample layer. 2:16 Grain tab 3:14 The scan knob 3:53 Synchronise the movement of the grain cursor to the host's clock 4:58 Sample page 6:04 Modulation 7:29 Effects 8:53 Master page
Great Plugin. Still get the "audio midi synchronization error" on a Mac Pro 6,1 12-Core 128GB RAM. Tried on an identical system and still chokes and sputters on some of the patches. Seems thorough out the more advanced Komplete 13 Ultimate Kontakt Morphing Synths. Seriosly, its 2022. User since 1998!
Hey Stevie, we're sorry you're experiencing issues with that plugin. Feel free to get in touch with our support so we can look closer into this 👉 bit.ly/n1konta
Uvi does this too. They create great plugins but won't let you add your own. In 2019 and beyond you should be able to add your samples as source material
@@frankelting I already bought it. It's great, a very few, so three or four presets are a bit "crunchy". Most (99.9%) work very well. The DAW, a very good ASIO driver and a generally optimized system are very important here.
I couldn't find a contact mail of Frank Elting and NI Germany just doesn't reply, so I'll try here: First of all: this plugin is really amazing! But... frustrating. 1. When I take some presets, I can import my own samples in 'sample' but a lot of times NOT in grain. And yes, I've tried to open 'grain'-page first but still no possibility to import my own samples (no short ones, no long ones and all in wav of course). The sample page NEVER has this problem. 2. The grain page is very clear for the rest (how to set max and min, scan etc.) but the sample page is a mystery: a lot of functions or goals are not at all explained in the manual. Nor in the walkthroughs. Like: how can a sample be repeated after activating it on one's keyboard? Now, it only plays once. How do I let the cursor move? Why, when I open a factory preset, do the movements of the former sample disappear when I import my own samples? E.g. in presets, samples play once and then parts are repeated over and over again (when I hold the key). But when I import my own samples, they only play once and stop. So, what was programmed in the factory presets also disappears. Etc. etc 3. Isn't there any IN DEPTH and COMPLETE tutorial video about EVERYTHING/all possibilities? (I saw the walkthroughs etc. but they're very incomplete) Also in the manual, nothing is mentioned about many possibilities and that is such a shame. I feel the power of this excellent plugin but that results only in frustration because I know what I want but can't do it.
hi, glad you like the instrument. I can not reproduce the sample import behaviour you describe. Please report a bug to the Native Instruments support. Give the grain sample import a try on the perform page. Does the problem also occur in the Kontakt stand alone version ? Note that Kontakt has an info pane integrated where detailed description for every knob is displayed when you hover over the corresponding UI element. I assume you refer to the "Bounce Edges" button when you talk about the "Repeat" function. Straylight works very much according to the general principles of granular synthesis. So you should be able to apply all the basics from a granular synthesis tutorial to Straylight.
I bought this a while ago and still have a lot to learn about its capabilities. The sounds provided are really intricate - you really need headphones to appreciate them. One thing I don't like though is that Straylight is VERY VERY cpu intensive. I have 8 gigs of memory and if I am using any additional instruments when working on a song, Straylight will start glitching and faltering. I'm not sorry I bought this, but it's a bit overpriced. I don't have a lot of money and this was a major investment for me.
@@chaz-e No worries. I had to buy a better, faster computer but now I can use Straylight without any problems. LOVE the program. Now I am going to try to purchase Phobos at a later date.
i have a question when i download the program for mac its say the archive iso cant be open the other programs i was able to download with no problem i noticed the other ones withan zip file but this say iso file
@@NativeInstruments I have 3 Roland keyboards and their new MC-707 groovebox. My FA-06 is my favorite, so I'm not complaining, but I'm just a little surprised. The Rob Papen synths all come with a lot of Roland-inspired-sounding patches, though I care nothing for those synths and don't want them. I also have Komplete 13 and the Light trio, and I'm definitely a Native fan, too.
@@NativeInstruments I should add, if y'all don't like Roland sounds, it actually would not hurt for the devs to pick up a JV2080 or 1080 and all the related expansions to use as a point of reference as for sounds to avoid. It is common for me to see patch makers and VST makers try to make "interesting" or "lush" pads, with or without layers, and end up with what sounds like remastered Roland presets. Even with wavetable synths at times.
Slightly dissapointed. There are even free granular plugins that blow this one out of the water. I was hoping for something more, especially with this price tag attached :(
@@SheldonTam Granulator II, Emit, Vector grain (M4L Devices), Ableton's built in Simpler is also quite useful, LPX has Alchemy and then there is of course NI's own reaktor user library which has a few gems like GRIP Grain Cloud Synth, Grain Modulator, Weirdo and many more. As soon as we go into payed territory there are many more options, also from NI (including Kontakt of course). My absolute favorite though would probably be UVI Falcon.
your snapshots are unhelpful. if i make some changes they are NOT saved in the snapshot that appears in the User patches. why in the world was this not allowed?? also, to make things worse, native instruments has removed support via phone or email. think i will stop buying software from ni.
This is a walkthrough of Straylight. ..... "Start in Performance View" ,,,,,,,, how to make a million dollars "Start with a million dollars".. NOT helpful..
If you have collectors edition of komplete 12 this should absolutely not cost more money. But rather than make vocal libraries like fans want or fixing machine's integration & plugin usability/clunkiness/unintuitive design which people have desperately asked for for years now since it is one of your flagship products---NI has instead decided to give us all the middle finger and keeps coming out with more gimmicky products packaged nicely and more hardware we don't need.
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This ENTIRE class of instruments, (Straylight, Hybrid Keys, Ethereal Earth, Analog Dreams, etc) is where Native Instruments is now REALLY knocking it out of the park! Well done NI! These are PURE PERFORMANCE instruments well suited for live, spontaneous jamming in real time in an electronic musician group setting. These instruments, along with my Machine Mikro Mk3 and my Komplete Kontrol M32, make for the perfect portable live setup. Thanks again NI! Been using your stuff since Generator and Transformator. Yes, I'm old!
I remember when the Ensoniq and Akai samplers first came out. I was a salesman at Werlein’s for Music in New Orleans. I had some crazy ideas of how do use the sample capability on those machines, but they just wouldn’t work. They glitched and glitched and glitched. However, Straylight and Pharlight have accomplished what I’’ve dreamed of for years. I have kept up my Collectors Eddition for updates and I am so glad I did the update on XIII.
I’ve been using Kontakt for years now and Straylight is revolutionary.
I've scored an entire game with this. But for ambiances. I love combining room tones and processing them in straight for scary ambiances
Vangelis would love this one.
That intro gave me chills... Oh my god.
Your voice is calming
This is a super great instrument. Love it for my audio productions and scoring for movies.
Just did a full upgrade/update to Komplete 13 Ultimate Collectors Edition, and this is my Favorite so far.
One of our fav too 😎
This is all good and gravy but If one knows synthesis one can create every sound this Instrument offers with a combination of Absynth + Massive and sound fx plugins. Native Instruments REALLY need to focus on making some Vocals-based/Choirs Kontakt libraries. Becuase that is the only department where they are lacking and Komplete Ultimate owners like me have to rely on third-party libraries for vocals & choirs. I hope they will soon release some Kontakt libraries like Output's Exhale plus some Male-female Vocal-Choir libraries.
agreed
I hate Absynth, every patch sounds with similar "metallic" smell.
I don't think the synths you mention support granular synthesis. Omnisphere could probably do it. It is a bit of a shame you can't drag in your own samples, but the whole point of granular synthesis is to discover microsounds in existing stuff. So I'd probably never get to load my own samples anyway...
Ankit Sharma your not wrong, but there is an aspect of ‘careful and deliberate curation of sample sources’ with this instrument that I personally like. moving through the library you quickly find exactly the kind of sound you want with exactly the kind of control you want. This is both Kontakt’s Achilles heel and a deliberate decision of the products development. For those into sound designing, cinematic music, game music etc it’s ‘Honey for Bee’s’ Basically it’s un apologetic indulgence in the audio domain. Walk on bye if you can. 🤑
@==/A\== New upgrade,you can now import samples
This is perfect for ambient music or background music
Sounds fantastic. For $149, this looks really good.
Pretty amazing time to be making music
Native Instruments promised the virtual instrument East Africa, I think last year, are they still working on it and when will they release that?
Incredible!
If there was an option to load samples I'd buy this straight away.
you might like FORM
Straylight 1.5 is available now where you can drag n drop your own sample into the Straylight engine.
ruclips.net/video/X2SZ6jSRXac/видео.html
@Paul Mina Storm Well Well Well
I guess you gotta buy it now :D
@@frankelting thank you!
0:31 Performance view. The X-Y pad. 4 macro controls.
1:03 Snapshot browser
1:47 The granular engine and sample layer.
2:16 Grain tab
3:14 The scan knob
3:53 Synchronise the movement of the grain cursor to the host's clock
4:58 Sample page
6:04 Modulation
7:29 Effects
8:53 Master page
can you glide sounds?
Goosebumps 😌
One of my new go to sound design tool for my tracks
This looks fab, can't wait to try it out
more visual feedback than massive x
Perfect!.
Great Plugin. Still get the "audio midi synchronization error" on a Mac Pro 6,1 12-Core 128GB RAM. Tried on an identical system and still chokes and sputters on some of the patches. Seems thorough out the more advanced Komplete 13 Ultimate Kontakt Morphing Synths. Seriosly, its 2022. User since 1998!
Hey Stevie, we're sorry you're experiencing issues with that plugin.
Feel free to get in touch with our support so we can look closer into this 👉 bit.ly/n1konta
how does it compare to Absynth?
Absynth is a semi-modular synthesizer, whereas Straylight is more of a granular sampler 😎
Would love to see what NI would do making a compact portable standalone groove box/sampler.
259$ you guys are crazy id pay 59,99 to 99,99 max!
Uvi does this too. They create great plugins but won't let you add your own. In 2019 and beyond you should be able to add your samples as source material
Check the 1.5 update where you can import your own samples.
Yes, you can add you own samples.
cool sounds
How it looks like on a Intel Core i5? I don't expects any wonder and i do have to work with freezes ... but is it working?
yes, absolutely. Give the demo a try.
@@frankelting I already bought it. It's great, a very few, so three or four presets are a bit "crunchy". Most (99.9%) work very well. The DAW, a very good ASIO driver and a generally optimized system are very important here.
Omnisphere let's me import audio. Can I import audio with this?
@Paul Mina Storm I completely agree. For $150, I may as well update my WUP from v9 to v10.
Straylight 1.5 is available now where you can drag n drop your own sample into the Straylight engine.
ruclips.net/video/X2SZ6jSRXac/видео.html
Is this included in Komplete 12 Ultimate? Cause its listed as a Komplete instrument. Thanks for answers
@@theRumbleChannel Yes, it is included in Komplete 13U.
HOW CAN I ADD OWN SAMPLES, i SAW movies that guys just drag and drop, i using ableton and i not have idea how can i do that, plz help! :D
You can use your own sample. Just make sure to run Straylight 1.5. The functionality was added with the update.
I couldn't find a contact mail of Frank Elting and NI Germany just doesn't reply, so I'll try here:
First of all: this plugin is really amazing!
But... frustrating.
1. When I take some presets, I can import my own samples in 'sample' but a lot of times NOT in
grain. And yes, I've tried to open 'grain'-page first but still no possibility to import my own samples (no short ones, no long ones and all in wav of course). The sample page NEVER has this problem.
2. The grain page is very clear for the rest (how to set max and min, scan etc.) but the sample page is a mystery: a lot of functions or goals are not at all explained in the manual. Nor in the walkthroughs.
Like: how can a sample be repeated after activating it on one's keyboard? Now, it only plays once. How do I let the cursor move?
Why, when I open a factory preset, do the movements of the former sample disappear when I import my own samples? E.g. in presets, samples play once and then parts are repeated over and over again (when I hold the key). But when I import my own samples, they only play once and stop. So, what was programmed in the factory presets also disappears. Etc. etc
3. Isn't there any IN DEPTH and COMPLETE tutorial video about EVERYTHING/all possibilities? (I saw the walkthroughs etc. but they're very incomplete)
Also in the manual, nothing is mentioned about many possibilities and that is such a shame. I feel the power of this excellent plugin but that results only in frustration because I know what I want but can't do it.
hi, glad you like the instrument. I can not reproduce the sample import behaviour you describe. Please report a bug to the Native Instruments support. Give the grain sample import a try on the perform page. Does the problem also occur in the Kontakt stand alone version ?
Note that Kontakt has an info pane integrated where detailed description for every knob is displayed when you hover over the corresponding UI element.
I assume you refer to the "Bounce Edges" button when you talk about the "Repeat" function. Straylight works very much according to the general principles of granular synthesis. So you should be able to apply all the basics from a granular synthesis tutorial to Straylight.
Will this be included in komplete ultimate?
Yes
I want this lit!
2:36 sounds like the Chernobyl soundtrack
SiboVG I’m convinced they used this in the score.
I bought this a while ago and still have a lot to learn about its capabilities. The sounds provided are really intricate - you really need headphones to appreciate them. One thing I don't like though is that Straylight is VERY VERY cpu intensive. I have 8 gigs of memory and if I am using any additional instruments when working on a song, Straylight will start glitching and faltering. I'm not sorry I bought this, but it's a bit overpriced. I don't have a lot of money and this was a major investment for me.
Sorry for your monetary loss, Dave.
@@chaz-e No worries. I had to buy a better, faster computer but now I can use Straylight without any problems. LOVE the program. Now I am going to try to purchase Phobos at a later date.
@@davescott6399phobos by spitfire?
that intro...
i have a question when i download the program for mac its say the archive iso cant be open the other programs i was able to download with no problem i noticed the other ones withan zip file but this say iso file
Blade Runner 2049 anyone?
A granular sampler with no sample import? You're kidding, right?
I just can’t do computers anymore when working on music.
2kool4skool
Now that I have Straylight, I see that nearly all of these pads sound like Roland presets, just with better reverb.
That's harsh 😅 You can actually upload your own samples so even if the presets are not your thing, you can build your own sounds 🙌
@@NativeInstruments I have 3 Roland keyboards and their new MC-707 groovebox. My FA-06 is my favorite, so I'm not complaining, but I'm just a little surprised. The Rob Papen synths all come with a lot of Roland-inspired-sounding patches, though I care nothing for those synths and don't want them.
I also have Komplete 13 and the Light trio, and I'm definitely a Native fan, too.
@@NativeInstruments I should add, if y'all don't like Roland sounds, it actually would not hurt for the devs to pick up a JV2080 or 1080 and all the related expansions to use as a point of reference as for sounds to avoid. It is common for me to see patch makers and VST makers try to make "interesting" or "lush" pads, with or without layers, and end up with what sounds like remastered Roland presets. Even with wavetable synths at times.
Slightly dissapointed. There are even free granular plugins that blow this one out of the water. I was hoping for something more, especially with this price tag attached :(
This is essentially a glorified sample pack
Which free granular plugins you were talking about? I am very interested, thanks.
@@SheldonTam Granulator II, Emit, Vector grain (M4L Devices), Ableton's built in Simpler is also quite useful, LPX has Alchemy and then there is of course NI's own reaktor user library which has a few gems like GRIP Grain Cloud Synth, Grain Modulator, Weirdo and many more. As soon as we go into payed territory there are many more options, also from NI (including Kontakt of course). My absolute favorite though would probably be UVI Falcon.
your snapshots are unhelpful. if i make some changes they are NOT saved in the snapshot that appears in the User patches. why in the world was this not allowed?? also, to make things worse, native instruments has removed support via phone or email. think i will stop buying software from ni.
Have you tried with Native Kontrol?
If you have a mac that will only run OSX 10.11 and can't upgrade to OSX 10.12 you can't install this library unless you buy a newer computer. LAME SMH
Just purchased Collector's Edition, at the unbelievable sale price! Kinda not really being pulled into these videos... at all.
This is a walkthrough of Straylight. ..... "Start in Performance View" ,,,,,,,, how to make a million dollars "Start with a million dollars".. NOT helpful..
It’s quite simple to get started. This walkthrough is more than enough to get you going.
Marketing garbage just like noir and mallet Flux... U don't need to spend money to get these sounds
Forgot about super 8 as well
And their other play libraries
If you have collectors edition of komplete 12 this should absolutely not cost more money. But rather than make vocal libraries like fans want or fixing machine's integration & plugin usability/clunkiness/unintuitive design which people have desperately asked for for years now since it is one of your flagship products---NI has instead decided to give us all the middle finger and keeps coming out with more gimmicky products packaged nicely and more hardware we don't need.
Spam! You already posted it yesterday...
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