Pro tips: Jettison one pice of ore at warp in. Anyone with cloak warping in should get decloaked giving you few extra seconds to react and most importantly starts engagement on your terms. But it's very important to understand that belts and anomalies (same with gas sites) have no acceleration gates. Everyone warping from probe window or r-click menu in system lands at same warp in location. You and your hunters can easily avoid it by using bookmarks. People can land on top of you if they have proper bookmarks set up. But you also can avoid traps on warp in, doing same thing. This can be done as alpha. If didn't already, use all three character slots on your account and put each of them in venture in other parts of LS. When one area of space is to hot, log in with different alt. That way you almost always something to do and won't be sitting in station afk because there is bunch of hunters outside. Insta dock bookmark on station. There is no worse thing than slowboating to dock with hunter going after you. Or with his friend waiting for you near station. I would bounce out of some celestial (it's faster to click warp button than looking up bookmark and warping), then warping at insta dock. When using inst dock bookmarks, set station as autopilot destination, warp to bookmark and when in warp set autopilot on. It will instantly dock as you leave warp, without you spamming dock button and it will do it faster than any human. Gas mining is slow. Do your math. I'm actually quite terrible at math, but many times find mining ore giving more isk/h. Don't forget to compress ore before selling!
Thanks for the input. I have alphas and omegas all over. Yes dumping a can on the warp in can help, but not if someone made their own perch BM ( I would). I really wanted to show the good opportunity to get out even when they take you by surprise with the delays they have to deal with xD. I lot of the stuff I have covered in the many low sec vids, but it is good to see it collated like that :) What's you IGN?
@@daddex9222 IGN: Small Kitty Paws Cloak delay is good to escape. That's why I usually decloak mid warp. Or you can try to bump target. Sometimes disturbs align time enough to get lock. Each sides has some aces under their sleeve. Knowing and understanding mechanic's is key. Good thing about venture is that it is cheap so new players can experiment with it and learn basics of avoiding PvP
"Everyone warping from probe window or r-click menu in system lands at same warp in location" Whenever I'm flying around in a cloaky astero or covops I always "warp to within..." to at least 10km. Traps avoided, no bookmarking needed.
with the d-scanning, checking local and aligning beforehand i'm quite confident now venturing out in my venture in low sec without running a loss. Had a few trips and now have amassed 7m worth of omber, something i'd not guess a few days ago after losing 2 ventures because of my lack of knowledge.
Fantastic vid, loved watching, learned a lot. I felt like an idiot. Made my first toon about 6 years ago, but don't play much. Never once even thought about d-scanning until watching this video. Been super scared of low sec due to a few bad experiences. This has been incredibly educational. I have an Endurance I've been wanting to use more. I'll definitely be getting a feel for this in a few ventures. Thank you for a great video.
The Dscan is often overlooked, I rarely used it my first 4 years of playing. Once you know how it works it become a vital tool xD Really glad the vid helped mate :)
iv been finding jaspet and hemorphite asteroids in the first room of the 'Serpentis Lookout' combat sites in hi-sec near dodixie. The second room of the site has alot of Omber but i dont bother mining it. When i saw these i cleared the first room and then brought my mining barge up there and mined 40mil/isk worth of ore in about 1.5 hours with my covetor. If you or someone else completely clear both rooms of the site, the low sec asteroids disappear and only thing left is veldspar so i only clear the first room and then start mining. It's been a really good source of income and could help out some newer people like me with some good isk/hr mining since the hi-sec ore prices have tanked. Love your videos =)
Yes a few combat sites have ore on them. If you have the miners handy if can be useful. The old Emerging conduit sites had a unique ore on them, not sure if it is found in other Trig space though.
I didn't go lowsec mining yet. From time to time I go ratting. The minerals I neded atm are found in highsec ore to manufacture the ammo I use and It reduced my spending isk by alot. Soon I'll start manufacturing my own ships and I'll give it a go. Thanks forntye video. Verry informative.
Great advice throughout! I live in lowsec and thrive on the unpredictable, never know who might jump into system vibe. I really appreciate the positive attitude you give the game, too. All of it’s gotten me more into PvP and having fun with hunting and baiting as I go about getting things done in lowsec. Always get to know the locals and learn the lay of the land. That really helps in fine tuning your ability to know when something is off and that you’re in danger. IGN: Endgame Crisis
I used to run skiffs in LS before the WCS change. 3WCS allowed you to pick your time to withdraw. In WH 3 WCS was highly important and 4WCS was paramount in Pochven because of the prevalence of hunting T3C with long points and faction scrams/ disrupts. Granted the WCS changes have renewed interest in the expedition frigates. In order to solo hunt gas sites you have to ditch cloak...which makes the Venture more beneficial than Prospect. (Before WCS changes Prospects were king Because of 4WCS. Now the Venture on Paper is 4WCS power and the Prospect is now much more downsides ship than benefits.) The Endurance is actually the really sneaky ship because you have 100% speed move bonus under cloak. Can have mining drones and 300% mining bonus and have the cargo hold of a skiff at 15000m3 and be capable of scanning down anomalies. Right now the Prospect is kind pointless other than Sig bonus and 10000m3. Because it needs a lot of support to make it Efficient or swapping equipment to operate which is rather annoying.
Great comment. Personally I never used multiple WCS for anything other than transit and rely on the d scan, cliak delay and paying attention to get me out, but I would certainly not want to take a barge out solo anywhere. The Prospect does have it's issues but for gas it is quickest and some think the covert cloak is a game changer, even though as you say the Endurance avoids the speed penalty and it never feels lacking.
You make a valid point, which many often forget, is that losing is part of the cycle and it's not worth demonizing the player that took you. Obvs, there are quite a few dicks throughout Eve, the key is not becoming one of them by acting all butt hurt when your bright n shiny thing gets vapourised. As ever, a great vid Mark. 👍
Just a bit of clarification here, as you say you've never seen clone soldiers spawn on signature sites - they do. I've personally encountered one on a Jaspet anomaly, and, according to another miner local to that area, it wasn't the first one. Keep 'em coming Mark, awesome work!
I happened upon your channel and wanted to commend you for the videos. Your personality is great, and you deliver detailed and helpful knowledge for all skill levels.
Good information. My only suggestion would be that in addition to having your warp out preselected, you align with it as well. I noticed that your endurance had to make a maximum 180 degree turn before warping instead of immediately being off the mark you warped out.
@@olegdoroshenko4836 To get the fastest warp out, you should align with your destination long before you want to warp out. That way, if enemies come on grid, you warp out immediately. Otherwise, you first have to turn to align, then warp out, and in that time you may get pointed and killed.
@@OwainAbArawn last time i was mining gas and did align to the station my venture started moving toward aligned station, making gas harvesters out of range very fast. Maybe i did something wrong, idk.
@@olegdoroshenko4836 I haven't done much gas mining, so I don't remember the range on gas harvesters, but you don't have to align at you max speed. You can set 1/4 speed to align just fine and once aligned, cut your engines. Then, if an enemy comes on grid, you will warp out faster than if you had to align first, and then warp.
@Jordan Rodrigues Do a test. In my Moa, 180 degrees from my warp destination, it took me 12 seconds to warp off grid starting from zero velocity. If aligned, it took me 7 seconds.
Trying to figure out what the new eve is all about. Haven’t logged in ages. Apparently there is free tier now. I am over free skill cap unfortunately steely so can’t even train. And mining barge I have in station is apparently for paid tier only :). So now I need to figure out again what this game is all about. Probably should join some corp and ask people directly. This video is really nice - talks facts no nonsense. I may need to watch some more ;)
Welcome back mate! :) Yes you can play with no sub but skills are capped. You can still have fun, make a bil and get into trouble with them though. Up to Battle cruiser they can run a T2 fit depending on their training. Once they hit 5m SP they queue stops though...
Big issue i have had with mining is that after returning to the game i used to be able to fly the Rorqual, Orca and Hulk. However in the intervening years i have been away i needed new skills for all and for the "new" style T2 crystals for the strip miners. Means that each character has between 30 and 50 days worth of training to complete what I used to be able to do :( Totally sucks the big fella there CCP.
I wouldn't be human if I wasn't annoyed that I was shot down, and I'm sure I'm angry with the player too. But that goes away, I knew the risk. But mostly, the only pain is the financial loss. Not with a standard venture, but a T2 venture or a mining barge. And yes you are right, the loss of ships of any kind belongs to EVE. But, you have to get used to it first. ^^
Another great vid. I have a couple of ventures stashed next to some quieter low sec pockets in case there is some interesting ore/gas laying about and not too many folks in system. I agree with you that the pvpers make it exciting. Escaping when they land on grid is a buzz. The folks who seem to spend all day sat in a low sec station afk I find a little annoying, but they keep me paying attention. High sec mining can in some ways actually be more dangerous with high sec gankers having fun as players rarely see them coming in time and tend to be in the bigger barges that you cannot get off grid in time. One of our guys in an Orca got taken down by 20 destroyers at the weekend. IGN Spinny Oza.
My alliance has a miner/hauler intel channel, advised to keep it open at all times next to local, everyone calls out ganks, scans, flashing reds, SAFET., CODE. etc, at least the system, and if possible gate or belt. If we know CODE or something flies in, we dock up, call out the standby fleet if present or reship for a fight. We put bases in protected losec mining systems for that purpose. There are also a few dedicated pvp groups that sometimes stay on standby close by. Especially in losec and null. There are things you can do to prevent trouble.
I lived in lowsec for a while, mined and ran missions but then a group discovered me and relentlessly camped me. So I moved, not that far away but far enough they didn't follow. As usual, things went well until I was discovered yet again. I fought back, killed a few but then they dropped me with overwhelming force every time I engaged. So I left for Nullsec. That was along time ago but I do miss it sometimes.
That can be the pattern if a group turn up, and why the nomadic, or multi FOB style is what i go for. Things ebb and flow in most LS pockets and they usually get quite again, having an alternative hunting ground is always a good plan. o7
@@daddex9222 Nomadic lifestyle in low/null is why I find it hard to use anything other than a T3. Especially now with the subsystem bay, you can be a mobile multitool that can live outside of stations with a mobile station, and travel with almost guaranteed safety thanks to T3 tricks.
New to the game, did go mine in low sec 2 times now.. let's call it 1-1 ... 1 get away and 1 death, i was just running to the kitchen to grab a cup of coffee and was dead when I came back, i was away for max 25 sec.... I like your videos it's good help. IGN the great kiwi
i think this video when made veldspar was worth more. its really low right now. even kermite and jaspet are low pre unit. if your unsure of a system take a venture in first. check things out. they are easy to replace. if its worth it go back with a endurance or prospect.or whatever, if its worth it. happy mining.
i've started playing about a week lost my first venture to a group of low sec drones and lost another trying to salvage my venture lol. thats not enough for me to give up and going in wormhole, pop out in -1.0 and mining kermit got some mils and start data hacking, it's failed obviously XD and then out of nowhere some dude with five drones start shooting my Rifter dont know how i got out of that lol doing low sec stuff is fun
so it translates into roughly 2,5x more than what would you get for mining in high sec. Damnit, I rly should start working at overcoming that bloody aversion to LS of mine (actually caught it when sticking my nose into low sec and always getting blasted out by some local macho, who always somehow managed not only to bring a bigger ship, but also somehow was able to find me anywhere I went (even when I hid on a deadspace waypoint)
Great videos DD. Who are the one to two ppl who keep giving these a thumbs down?! Please check before you click, I think you two hit the wrong button...
Yes the prices are good right now. I like the way the market and meta shifts in the game as in gets us doing other stuff to our norm', if we pay attention. The more variety in a players Eve the better as far as I am concerned! xD o7
Always nice to see your videos about LS, most players are affraid of that space but is just fun and like other mmorpg. Where there is not safe areas. Oscar Jagger
On the mining side of my gaming, the new WCS won't change my plans. Actually, it is even better. Since the Venture only have 1 low slot, using a WCS gives me 1 more core strenght compared to before the change (4 vs 3). My Skiff is in high-sec and it will remain there: I know it can survive 9 catalysts suicide ganking me in a 0.6 system, but I won't have Concord to save me in low-sec. The Procurer is in low-sec, definitely. For the Procurer, instead of having 2 WCS, I could just have one now + a mining laser upgrade. However, I use the Procurer when I'm alone in the system (so no WCS, and no penalty for drones if rats comes in), and the Venture when there are other people. IGN: Vadania Vokkonen
Low sec mining going well- plenty of anoms to mine. Getting the ore OUT of low sec though, well that’s another matter, especially with the recent changes. Calgar doshu in game name.
I usually choose my moment to ship stuff out. practise that MWD cloak trick a lot, the bigger holds of the tech 2 frigates is handy for shipping stuff out though, Endurance has Nereus sized hold.
I especially enjoy the changes to gas site spawns, been mining it before the changes in their respective lowsec constellations but i huff more frequently now that they spawn here too, remember to leave some gas clouds for us too mate :P ign Dragonon Vaporiso
IGN Davidius Pratticus. I liked how you showed thwarting that Rat BB in the first run. That was very helpful. I've always run from them, not realizing that as long as you keep moving, they're pretty much toothless.
You keep saying that the warp core stabilizer is irrelevant after the changes, but I thought it was multiple warp core stabilizers that are irrelevant, and carrying a single warp core stabilizer is totally relevant. And now they need to be activated manually. What is the explanation for this comment?
I meant the changes were irrelevant to this video and so was the module in the fit as it was recorded just before them and the WCS in the fit was not used at all as i didn't get tackled. I didn't mean to make it sound like the module itself was. I did another vid showing the new way of using them. I will fit them a little less now myself, but will still use them. Some ships may be used less because they cant be stacked now I guess.
I mostly like my mining to be passive and quiet, but occasionally do I visit wormholes to get some gas! Have plans to do the same in lowsec sometime. Got some ore in Pochven once, but getting in and out is just too much of a hassle. IGN Fuzzy Rockets
Sometimes it can, but don't rely on it. The decloak distance is 2000m. When you warp at 0, you land randomly within a 2500m bubble around the warpin point, so you can miss it if you're a bit lucky. People flying cloaky ships usually don't warp to 0 though, they tend to warp at 10k or further, so they will avoid the can most times :)
Man great fucking read on that guy and warping out on time. Blood rush for sure. I don't do LS mining, doing null sec mining in anomalies. Of course, same tactics. I'm very skittish lmao. IGN: Buck Wilde.
Whenever I'm mining in dangerous territory, I'm in a venture with 3sec align, So, I just pay attention to what's happening and I can warp out, no problem. -Marakuyo Vimaleshvar
Seen a ton of gas sies on scan recently when looking for 5/6 deds... might have to dust off the old venture when I'm feeling something a little more laid back. Nice cheap ship for when I inevitably die to that sneaky t3c when I'm watching a video :) ign: Daddy Is-here
I haven't done a lot of mining in low-sec but I have a lot of experience huffing gas in wormholes, thanks for the tips found them really useful. IGN Stellan Kohlin.
Thanks for your videos. I have been killed several times in lowsec in both ventures and procurers, but I am learning how to make it work. IGN: Journi Ronuken
Good for you, you persistence will be rewarded. Procurers have the tank but are also easier to locate and pin than a little frigate, maybe give a T2 Frigate a try... now you can afford to try.. skin code sent...xD
I have yet to truly spend a full amount of time in Low Sec, I've been out there only a handful of times. I've lost a few ventures out there mining. (IGN: Edalon Falcos)
Is it worth it to do mining.. ever? I’m new to Eve, about 35 days in. Omega for about 30. I have really only done exploration (null-sec) and am growing bored of it. Not to mention I’ve lost 3 asteros yesterday alone (I learned a lot in a short amount of time lol) and I’m growing tired of the gate camps. The problem for me is.. it’s making me billions lol. It’s not really a problem except that it’s so lucrative it kind of makes other parts of the game feel not worth it, like mining. At least not until I have a years worth of skill points invested. For example, in the last 2 days (about 4/5 hours of exploring) I’ve made 750misk. Is this possible with mining any time soon for me? I don’t expect to be amazed by the gameplay of mining but the diversity of gameplay will interest me, especially if the isk stays the same or gets better and one day I can do one thing and the next day another thing without feeling like one is monumentally better than the other. But since the venture is the only option I have for now, should I even bother?
I would recommend you try the exploration in a 4-5 mil Heron, my alphas have made bank in wormholes in them. It is also a much cheaper ship to lose while you are learning d scan etc, use the d scan all the time.... best use of a venture, even for an alpha is gas harvesting in wormhole or low sec. Again you will learn valuable survival skills in a cheap ship, i have made a few videos on this too Avoid busy areas as they tend to have the entrance camped. I have low sec pockets i use that are rarely camped, if ever they are out there, just not near Jita :):) o7
@@daddex9222 I need my Astero, idk it’s just one of those ships. Exploration wouldn’t be the same without it for me and I don’t mind losing them, yet. I’ve made a small fortune doing exploration so far so I can afford to lose a couple a day lol I just hope it doesn’t become the norm. I’ll give the huffing gas thing (lol that’s funny to me) a try tonight. In the meantime I’ll check out your other video. Thanks for the help.
Ore mining is somewhat slow for me, but I've been considering taking up gas mining, especially given the 100-something new industry compounds I've found through exploration. IGN: Katriin Vakho
That will be because since this was recorded they made the WCS active and it also halves your ships bandwidth, I did mention the changes in the vid though not in detail :( I would not now run one on there, except for gate transit maybe, and keep the full drone utility. This was the vid i did on the changes and their impact... ruclips.net/video/kgrYJGpiS40/видео.html
@@daddex9222 Thanks, watched your vid and I understand now. I'm new to eve online, coming from the mobile variant so there are quite a few things that are different.
I been ice mining in null andtry to avoid to kill rats since it shows on dotlan and if i can't salvage the wrecks hints that i was there, and might be coming back.
Didn't work for me, not sure what I misunderstood, So I bought a venture and travelled to 0.0 space hoping for Crokite, there are no asteroid belts in 0.0 space it seems, i went to lower, still no Asteroids, occasionally I find a small crokite roid surrounded by lots of drones etc which If I wasn't, at that point in a pod I guess I wouldv'e been nuked. So my question is has it changed or how do you find a crokite spot..? thanks, ingame = Roxstar
0.0 sec space and lower is null sec, not low sec. Low sec is 0.4 to 0.1. null sec will have different asteroids, and some areas have almost no asteroids. The rats in null sec will also be significantly nastier, you'd be much more likely to die in a venture. You want to find some fairly quiet low sec (0.4-0.1) and try again in there :)
Came here for any tips , got a few , ive been playn 1 week and already can get bout 10 to 20 mill isk a hour mining with venture in null sec areas . Im an alpha so dont be scared new guys if i can you can
Awesome Video! Dad Dex I learned allot in this video about low-sec mining and the Prospect. Can you speed tank WH gas site RATS as well in a Prospect? (IGN: Frank Landell)
That was very educational! I haven't done much gas and LS ore mining for some time, and will sure give it another try! What if the ship that wants in to kill you does so uncloaked? You will not have the uncloaking delay working for you and will get locked right away...? Thanks as always! Ign: Djentil
No but they they will show on the overview as they warp in, provided it isn't full of rocks, and they can't start locking you till they get fully out of warp and that is when you leave. If you moved away from the warp in they should have some ground to cover on grid too. xD
yeah, you mine and think im doing ok. and then finally you venture out.low sec. and find hemorphite-crokite stc. and you go ive been mining veldspar all this time. you go in..then boom. some guy ganks you. haaaa.fun times. crokite is great for isk profit. if you can find it. so is hemorphite. arkanor is great too. but where that is/ well...good luck. no sec.
Thanks for another great video, very informative. Being a fairly new player I have not gone to low sec much but your videos are giving me confidence to go out and try more things. I must say it is fun just bouncing around in a venture from belt to belt being hunted. Will try hunting in future when I learn more about it. Ign Falcor Khora
Duuuuuude pllleeeaaassseee the scope syndication procurer skin I would eat my own shorts! Ign EsotericRahl I have been doing gas huffing in a small little pocket, I find it to be a bit of a pain to move the gas to Jita to sell.. I need a hauler
Pro tips: Jettison one pice of ore at warp in. Anyone with cloak warping in should get decloaked giving you few extra seconds to react and most importantly starts engagement on your terms. But it's very important to understand that belts and anomalies (same with gas sites) have no acceleration gates. Everyone warping from probe window or r-click menu in system lands at same warp in location. You and your hunters can easily avoid it by using bookmarks. People can land on top of you if they have proper bookmarks set up. But you also can avoid traps on warp in, doing same thing.
This can be done as alpha. If didn't already, use all three character slots on your account and put each of them in venture in other parts of LS. When one area of space is to hot, log in with different alt. That way you almost always something to do and won't be sitting in station afk because there is bunch of hunters outside.
Insta dock bookmark on station. There is no worse thing than slowboating to dock with hunter going after you. Or with his friend waiting for you near station. I would bounce out of some celestial (it's faster to click warp button than looking up bookmark and warping), then warping at insta dock. When using inst dock bookmarks, set station as autopilot destination, warp to bookmark and when in warp set autopilot on. It will instantly dock as you leave warp, without you spamming dock button and it will do it faster than any human.
Gas mining is slow. Do your math. I'm actually quite terrible at math, but many times find mining ore giving more isk/h. Don't forget to compress ore before selling!
Thanks for the input. I have alphas and omegas all over. Yes dumping a can on the warp in can help, but not if someone made their own perch BM ( I would). I really wanted to show the good opportunity to get out even when they take you by surprise with the delays they have to deal with xD. I lot of the stuff I have covered in the many low sec vids, but it is good to see it collated like that :) What's you IGN?
@@daddex9222 IGN: Small Kitty Paws
Cloak delay is good to escape. That's why I usually decloak mid warp. Or you can try to bump target. Sometimes disturbs align time enough to get lock.
Each sides has some aces under their sleeve. Knowing and understanding mechanic's is key. Good thing about venture is that it is cheap so new players can experiment with it and learn basics of avoiding PvP
"Everyone warping from probe window or r-click menu in system lands at same warp in location"
Whenever I'm flying around in a cloaky astero or covops I always "warp to within..." to at least 10km. Traps avoided, no bookmarking needed.
with the d-scanning, checking local and aligning beforehand i'm quite confident now venturing out in my venture in low sec without running a loss. Had a few trips and now have amassed 7m worth of omber, something i'd not guess a few days ago after losing 2 ventures because of my lack of knowledge.
That is great! Keep you eye out for some gas sites, they are great ISK. Give me your in game name, your Venture deserves to be shiny!
Love the fast paced informative and funny commentary. Great stuff !
Fantastic vid, loved watching, learned a lot. I felt like an idiot. Made my first toon about 6 years ago, but don't play much. Never once even thought about d-scanning until watching this video. Been super scared of low sec due to a few bad experiences. This has been incredibly educational. I have an Endurance I've been wanting to use more. I'll definitely be getting a feel for this in a few ventures. Thank you for a great video.
The Dscan is often overlooked, I rarely used it my first 4 years of playing. Once you know how it works it become a vital tool xD Really glad the vid helped mate :)
i got turned off by trying low sec because i was shot up right after i made a jump
iv been finding jaspet and hemorphite asteroids in the first room of the 'Serpentis Lookout' combat sites in hi-sec near dodixie. The second room of the site has alot of Omber but i dont bother mining it. When i saw these i cleared the first room and then brought my mining barge up there and mined 40mil/isk worth of ore in about 1.5 hours with my covetor. If you or someone else completely clear both rooms of the site, the low sec asteroids disappear and only thing left is veldspar so i only clear the first room and then start mining. It's been a really good source of income and could help out some newer people like me with some good isk/hr mining since the hi-sec ore prices have tanked. Love your videos =)
If you dont clear the sites more won't spawn. That was my understanding.
Yes a few combat sites have ore on them. If you have the miners handy if can be useful. The old Emerging conduit sites had a unique ore on them, not sure if it is found in other Trig space though.
Love a bit of lowsec mining..makes life a lot more interesting BARRY monk
Skin code sent Andy :)!
I didn't go lowsec mining yet. From time to time I go ratting. The minerals I neded atm are found in highsec ore to manufacture the ammo I use and It reduced my spending isk by alot. Soon I'll start manufacturing my own ships and I'll give it a go. Thanks forntye video. Verry informative.
Great advice throughout! I live in lowsec and thrive on the unpredictable, never know who might jump into system vibe. I really appreciate the positive attitude you give the game, too. All of it’s gotten me more into PvP and having fun with hunting and baiting as I go about getting things done in lowsec. Always get to know the locals and learn the lay of the land. That really helps in fine tuning your ability to know when something is off and that you’re in danger. IGN: Endgame Crisis
Thank you! and you won a skin too xD
I used to run skiffs in LS before the WCS change. 3WCS allowed you to pick your time to withdraw. In WH 3 WCS was highly important and 4WCS was paramount in Pochven because of the prevalence of hunting T3C with long points and faction scrams/ disrupts. Granted the WCS changes have renewed interest in the expedition frigates. In order to solo hunt gas sites you have to ditch cloak...which makes the Venture more beneficial than Prospect. (Before WCS changes Prospects were king Because of 4WCS. Now the Venture on Paper is 4WCS power and the Prospect is now much more downsides ship than benefits.) The Endurance is actually the really sneaky ship because you have 100% speed move bonus under cloak. Can have mining drones and 300% mining bonus and have the cargo hold of a skiff at 15000m3 and be capable of scanning down anomalies. Right now the Prospect is kind pointless other than Sig bonus and 10000m3. Because it needs a lot of support to make it Efficient or swapping equipment to operate which is rather annoying.
Great comment. Personally I never used multiple WCS for anything other than transit and rely on the d scan, cliak delay and paying attention to get me out, but I would certainly not want to take a barge out solo anywhere. The Prospect does have it's issues but for gas it is quickest and some think the covert cloak is a game changer, even though as you say the Endurance avoids the speed penalty and it never feels lacking.
You make a valid point, which many often forget, is that losing is part of the cycle and it's not worth demonizing the player that took you. Obvs, there are quite a few dicks throughout Eve, the key is not becoming one of them by acting all butt hurt when your bright n shiny thing gets vapourised.
As ever, a great vid Mark. 👍
Just a bit of clarification here, as you say you've never seen clone soldiers spawn on signature sites - they do. I've personally encountered one on a Jaspet anomaly, and, according to another miner local to that area, it wasn't the first one.
Keep 'em coming Mark, awesome work!
Ah cool, thanks for the info. I need to get the venture / Prospect out soon for sure. There is crazy gas in the Low Sec i am in right now.
I happened upon your channel and wanted to commend you for the videos. Your personality is great, and you deliver detailed and helpful knowledge for all skill levels.
Thank you very much my friend! I am very happy you have found them useful and worthwhile :) Spread the word!! o7
Bait Proc, best Proc.
Great video, lowsec mining, especially gas huffing, is quite lucrative right now!
i think i got the curage to finely go mining in low sec after watching this video...thx Dad..ign Gorgas
Thank you again! If it were not for your videos I would have just gave up on eve online.
Good information. My only suggestion would be that in addition to having your warp out preselected, you align with it as well. I noticed that your endurance had to make a maximum 180 degree turn before warping instead of immediately being off the mark you warped out.
isnot that your ship start moving in the direction of aligned object once aligning is done?
@@olegdoroshenko4836 To get the fastest warp out, you should align with your destination long before you want to warp out. That way, if enemies come on grid, you warp out immediately. Otherwise, you first have to turn to align, then warp out, and in that time you may get pointed and killed.
@@OwainAbArawn last time i was mining gas and did align to the station my venture started moving toward aligned station, making gas harvesters out of range very fast. Maybe i did something wrong, idk.
@@olegdoroshenko4836 I haven't done much gas mining, so I don't remember the range on gas harvesters, but you don't have to align at you max speed. You can set 1/4 speed to align just fine and once aligned, cut your engines. Then, if an enemy comes on grid, you will warp out faster than if you had to align first, and then warp.
@Jordan Rodrigues Do a test. In my Moa, 180 degrees from my warp destination, it took me 12 seconds to warp off grid starting from zero velocity. If aligned, it took me 7 seconds.
Trying to figure out what the new eve is all about. Haven’t logged in ages. Apparently there is free tier now. I am over free skill cap unfortunately steely so can’t even train. And mining barge I have in station is apparently for paid tier only :). So now I need to figure out again what this game is all about. Probably should join some corp and ask people directly. This video is really nice - talks facts no nonsense. I may need to watch some more ;)
Welcome back mate! :) Yes you can play with no sub but skills are capped. You can still have fun, make a bil and get into trouble with them though. Up to Battle cruiser they can run a T2 fit depending on their training. Once they hit 5m SP they queue stops though...
@@daddex9222 YEAH... I have 22.5 mln SP so it's one thing that raises a question should I omega or not :)
Big issue i have had with mining is that after returning to the game i used to be able to fly the Rorqual, Orca and Hulk. However in the intervening years i have been away i needed new skills for all and for the "new" style T2 crystals for the strip miners. Means that each character has between 30 and 50 days worth of training to complete what I used to be able to do :(
Totally sucks the big fella there CCP.
I wouldn't be human if I wasn't annoyed that I was shot down, and I'm sure I'm angry with the player too. But that goes away, I knew the risk. But mostly, the only pain is the financial loss. Not with a standard venture, but a T2 venture or a mining barge. And yes you are right, the loss of ships of any kind belongs to EVE. But, you have to get used to it first. ^^
Another great vid.
I have a couple of ventures stashed next to some quieter low sec pockets in case there is some interesting ore/gas laying about and not too many folks in system. I agree with you that the pvpers make it exciting. Escaping when they land on grid is a buzz. The folks who seem to spend all day sat in a low sec station afk I find a little annoying, but they keep me paying attention.
High sec mining can in some ways actually be more dangerous with high sec gankers having fun as players rarely see them coming in time and tend to be in the bigger barges that you cannot get off grid in time. One of our guys in an Orca got taken down by 20 destroyers at the weekend.
IGN Spinny Oza.
My alliance has a miner/hauler intel channel, advised to keep it open at all times next to local, everyone calls out ganks, scans, flashing reds, SAFET., CODE. etc, at least the system, and if possible gate or belt. If we know CODE or something flies in, we dock up, call out the standby fleet if present or reship for a fight. We put bases in protected losec mining systems for that purpose.
There are also a few dedicated pvp groups that sometimes stay on standby close by. Especially in losec and null.
There are things you can do to prevent trouble.
I lived in lowsec for a while, mined and ran missions but then a group discovered me and relentlessly camped me. So I moved, not that far away but far enough they didn't follow. As usual, things went well until I was discovered yet again. I fought back, killed a few but then they dropped me with overwhelming force every time I engaged. So I left for Nullsec. That was along time ago but I do miss it sometimes.
That can be the pattern if a group turn up, and why the nomadic, or multi FOB style is what i go for. Things ebb and flow in most LS pockets and they usually get quite again, having an alternative hunting ground is always a good plan. o7
@@daddex9222 Nomadic lifestyle in low/null is why I find it hard to use anything other than a T3. Especially now with the subsystem bay, you can be a mobile multitool that can live outside of stations with a mobile station, and travel with almost guaranteed safety thanks to T3 tricks.
New to the game, did go mine in low sec 2 times now.. let's call it 1-1 ... 1 get away and 1 death, i was just running to the kitchen to grab a cup of coffee and was dead when I came back, i was away for max 25 sec.... I like your videos it's good help. IGN the great kiwi
Keep it up, really glad the vids are a help, skin code sent xD
love your videoes! really helping new players out! thanks man
Lo Ranai Rotsuda of Qeti, has learned an important lesson from this video. Thanks as always.
Great PvP behavior insights, love it the Ecological point of view. Well Done!
most instructive Eve content on YT. Props
i think this video when made veldspar was worth more. its really low right now. even kermite and jaspet are low pre unit. if your unsure of a system take a venture in first. check things out. they are easy to replace. if its worth it go back with a endurance or prospect.or whatever, if its worth it. happy mining.
i've started playing about a week lost my first venture to a group of low sec drones and lost another trying to salvage my venture lol. thats not enough for me to give up and going in wormhole, pop out in -1.0 and mining kermit got some mils and start data hacking, it's failed obviously XD and then out of nowhere some dude with five drones start shooting my Rifter dont know how i got out of that lol doing low sec stuff is fun
so it translates into roughly 2,5x more than what would you get for mining in high sec.
Damnit, I rly should start working at overcoming that bloody aversion to LS of mine (actually caught it when sticking my nose into low sec and always getting blasted out by some local macho, who always somehow managed not only to bring a bigger ship, but also somehow was able to find me anywhere I went (even when I hid on a deadspace waypoint)
Great videos DD. Who are the one to two ppl who keep giving these a thumbs down?! Please check before you click, I think you two hit the wrong button...
I have been playing years so lots of skill points but no skill lol Still learning every day, thanks for the tips. Lucy Helios
I've been I hi-sec care-bear for awhile thanks for the vid... IGN Onyx Tribble
I just looked at the ore prices and HOLY shit its time to find a wormhole into a dead low sec system and just set up shop
Yes the prices are good right now. I like the way the market and meta shifts in the game as in gets us doing other stuff to our norm', if we pay attention. The more variety in a players Eve the better as far as I am concerned! xD o7
KarmaFleet is recruiting. I've been in a few alliances, but I've never been in one that invests more into its new players and showing them the ropes.
Please share with me, what was the bop in the beginning of the video
I need the WHOLE bop
You mean the tune? Lexica, 'Tiger Tracks' ruclips.net/video/SCK1zTjgKsk/видео.html
Always nice to see your videos about LS, most players are affraid of that space but is just fun and like other mmorpg. Where there is not safe areas.
Oscar Jagger
On the mining side of my gaming, the new WCS won't change my plans. Actually, it is even better. Since the Venture only have 1 low slot, using a WCS gives me 1 more core strenght compared to before the change (4 vs 3). My Skiff is in high-sec and it will remain there: I know it can survive 9 catalysts suicide ganking me in a 0.6 system, but I won't have Concord to save me in low-sec. The Procurer is in low-sec, definitely. For the Procurer, instead of having 2 WCS, I could just have one now + a mining laser upgrade. However, I use the Procurer when I'm alone in the system (so no WCS, and no penalty for drones if rats comes in), and the Venture when there are other people.
IGN: Vadania Vokkonen
Hi really good videos, do you have a recent fit for this ship? I might of missed it but I don't think you mentioned what are in the rig slots?
Low sec mining going well- plenty of anoms to mine. Getting the ore OUT of low sec though, well that’s another matter, especially with the recent changes. Calgar doshu in game name.
I usually choose my moment to ship stuff out. practise that MWD cloak trick a lot, the bigger holds of the tech 2 frigates is handy for shipping stuff out though, Endurance has Nereus sized hold.
I especially enjoy the changes to gas site spawns, been mining it before the changes in their respective lowsec constellations but i huff more frequently now that they spawn here too, remember to leave some gas clouds for us too mate :P ign Dragonon Vaporiso
IGN Davidius Pratticus. I liked how you showed thwarting that Rat BB in the first run. That was very helpful. I've always run from them, not realizing that as long as you keep moving, they're pretty much toothless.
You keep saying that the warp core stabilizer is irrelevant after the changes, but I thought it was multiple warp core stabilizers that are irrelevant, and carrying a single warp core stabilizer is totally relevant. And now they need to be activated manually. What is the explanation for this comment?
I meant the changes were irrelevant to this video and so was the module in the fit as it was recorded just before them and the WCS in the fit was not used at all as i didn't get tackled. I didn't mean to make it sound like the module itself was. I did another vid showing the new way of using them. I will fit them a little less now myself, but will still use them. Some ships may be used less because they cant be stacked now I guess.
I mostly like my mining to be passive and quiet, but occasionally do I visit wormholes to get some gas! Have plans to do the same in lowsec sometime. Got some ore in Pochven once, but getting in and out is just too much of a hassle. IGN Fuzzy Rockets
Does dropping a can at the warp in decloak a ship.
Sometimes it can, but don't rely on it. The decloak distance is 2000m. When you warp at 0, you land randomly within a 2500m bubble around the warpin point, so you can miss it if you're a bit lucky. People flying cloaky ships usually don't warp to 0 though, they tend to warp at 10k or further, so they will avoid the can most times :)
Man great fucking read on that guy and warping out on time. Blood rush for sure. I don't do LS mining, doing null sec mining in anomalies. Of course, same tactics. I'm very skittish lmao.
IGN: Buck Wilde.
Nice explanation and effort to make this video...
Whenever I'm mining in dangerous territory, I'm in a venture with 3sec align, So, I just pay attention to what's happening and I can warp out, no problem.
-Marakuyo Vimaleshvar
Thanks for this informative video! Already skilled the new mining crystals? How do you like the new changes? Greetings from Austria.
I used to run low-sec sites and have since joined a corp that does wormholes. I miss low-sec....
Why did your orbit get messed up with the prospect? Thanks for the vid.
Because eventually it took me too close to the structure. That can slow you down and make getting into warp quickly a panic.
with great risks come great thrills
Seen a ton of gas sies on scan recently when looking for 5/6 deds... might have to dust off the old venture when I'm feeling something a little more laid back. Nice cheap ship for when I inevitably die to that sneaky t3c when I'm watching a video :)
ign: Daddy Is-here
... Haven't really done much low sec mining but with your guidance i'm gonna give it a go!!! "gulp"... "Engage"!!... Korvan Avaron
How did you get your gas harvester cycle time below 30 seconds?
Another great guide. Thank you!
I haven't done a lot of mining in low-sec but I have a lot of experience huffing gas in wormholes, thanks for the tips found them really useful. IGN Stellan Kohlin.
Good O'l Dad back again.
Thanks for your videos. I have been killed several times in lowsec in both ventures and procurers, but I am learning how to make it work. IGN: Journi Ronuken
Good for you, you persistence will be rewarded. Procurers have the tank but are also easier to locate and pin than a little frigate, maybe give a T2 Frigate a try... now you can afford to try.. skin code sent...xD
I have yet to truly spend a full amount of time in Low Sec, I've been out there only a handful of times. I've lost a few ventures out there mining. (IGN: Edalon Falcos)
carebears gonna be mad abt recent stab changes. man i won't miss seeing epithals with 30 gazillion stabs in them. amen. IGN: Bellanalle Maulerant
I've never ran low sec ore sites - but the ISK might be worth it. 🤔
Is it worth it to do mining.. ever? I’m new to Eve, about 35 days in. Omega for about 30. I have really only done exploration (null-sec) and am growing bored of it. Not to mention I’ve lost 3 asteros yesterday alone (I learned a lot in a short amount of time lol) and I’m growing tired of the gate camps. The problem for me is.. it’s making me billions lol. It’s not really a problem except that it’s so lucrative it kind of makes other parts of the game feel not worth it, like mining. At least not until I have a years worth of skill points invested. For example, in the last 2 days (about 4/5 hours of exploring) I’ve made 750misk. Is this possible with mining any time soon for me? I don’t expect to be amazed by the gameplay of mining but the diversity of gameplay will interest me, especially if the isk stays the same or gets better and one day I can do one thing and the next day another thing without feeling like one is monumentally better than the other. But since the venture is the only option I have for now, should I even bother?
I would recommend you try the exploration in a 4-5 mil Heron, my alphas have made bank in wormholes in them. It is also a much cheaper ship to lose while you are learning d scan etc, use the d scan all the time.... best use of a venture, even for an alpha is gas harvesting in wormhole or low sec. Again you will learn valuable survival skills in a cheap ship, i have made a few videos on this too Avoid busy areas as they tend to have the entrance camped. I have low sec pockets i use that are rarely camped, if ever they are out there, just not near Jita :):) o7
@@daddex9222 I need my Astero, idk it’s just one of those ships. Exploration wouldn’t be the same without it for me and I don’t mind losing them, yet. I’ve made a small fortune doing exploration so far so I can afford to lose a couple a day lol I just hope it doesn’t become the norm.
I’ll give the huffing gas thing (lol that’s funny to me) a try tonight. In the meantime I’ll check out your other video. Thanks for the help.
Ore mining is somewhat slow for me, but I've been considering taking up gas mining, especially given the 100-something new industry compounds I've found through exploration. IGN: Katriin Vakho
How are you able to launch 2 drones, everything I try to launch both my drones it says I don't have the bandwidth.
That will be because since this was recorded they made the WCS active and it also halves your ships bandwidth, I did mention the changes in the vid though not in detail :( I would not now run one on there, except for gate transit maybe, and keep the full drone utility. This was the vid i did on the changes and their impact... ruclips.net/video/kgrYJGpiS40/видео.html
@@daddex9222 Thanks, watched your vid and I understand now. I'm new to eve online, coming from the mobile variant so there are quite a few things that are different.
Thanks for the vid :). -Arvaras Roak Yaken
Hi Dad Dex, can you make a video on the new Mining Blitz event that started today please ? What is it and is it worth doing ? thanks in advance o7
I been ice mining in null andtry to avoid to kill rats since it shows on dotlan and if i can't salvage the wrecks hints that i was there, and might be coming back.
ZeeTech Axial, Doing good in LowSec but I keep getting ganked. Good Luck!
Didn't work for me, not sure what I misunderstood, So I bought a venture and travelled to 0.0 space hoping for Crokite, there are no asteroid belts in 0.0 space it seems, i went to lower, still no Asteroids, occasionally I find a small crokite roid surrounded by lots of drones etc which If I wasn't, at that point in a pod I guess I wouldv'e been nuked. So my question is has it changed or how do you find a crokite spot..? thanks, ingame = Roxstar
Great Video btw I now am looking at D scan, haven't played since 2007 so utterly new ;)
0.0 sec space and lower is null sec, not low sec. Low sec is 0.4 to 0.1. null sec will have different asteroids, and some areas have almost no asteroids. The rats in null sec will also be significantly nastier, you'd be much more likely to die in a venture. You want to find some fairly quiet low sec (0.4-0.1) and try again in there :)
Crokite does appear in low sec, but it's fairly rare. Try using the agency tab to find crokite ore anomalies (green sites)
@@daddex9222 ahhh thanks ill give it a whirl thanks
venture, shooting mode? lol, good luck with that
Came here for any tips , got a few , ive been playn 1 week and already can get bout 10 to 20 mill isk a hour mining with venture in null sec areas .
Im an alpha so dont be scared new guys if i can you can
Awesome Video! Dad Dex I learned allot in this video about low-sec mining and the Prospect. Can you speed tank WH gas site RATS as well in a Prospect? (IGN: Frank Landell)
I haven't tried it in a WH yet... , but it is paid for now so I shall soon :)
Another great video, keep it up. IGN: Odu
Very informative
Thanks Adam! o7
There is much good gas huffing in the Kor Azor Region , come by AMI for a good time
Remember to align to a pre selected location.
That was very educational! I haven't done much gas and LS ore mining for some time, and will sure give it another try! What if the ship that wants in to kill you does so uncloaked? You will not have the uncloaking delay working for you and will get locked right away...?
Thanks as always!
Ign: Djentil
No but they they will show on the overview as they warp in, provided it isn't full of rocks, and they can't start locking you till they get fully out of warp and that is when you leave. If you moved away from the warp in they should have some ground to cover on grid too.
xD
"who wants to blue everybody?"
Yeah... They call themselves 'Papi'.
The giant blue rotten 🍩
Now that the gas Sites are popping up in LS. I have fallen for the draw to huff gas in LS Sites
IGN JonReese
Haven't considered lowsec mining, cause I'm new. Might buy in cheap and give it a shot. Love the vids. IGN: ChupcaBRUH
yeah, you mine and think im doing ok. and then finally you venture out.low sec. and find hemorphite-crokite stc. and you go ive been mining veldspar all this time. you go in..then boom. some guy ganks you. haaaa.fun times. crokite is great for isk profit. if you can find it. so is hemorphite. arkanor is great too. but where that is/ well...good luck. no sec.
Nice video dude " IGN":Beeoh Le-Duc
Thanks for another great video, very informative. Being a fairly new player I have not gone to low sec much but your videos are giving me confidence to go out and try more things. I must say it is fun just bouncing around in a venture from belt to belt being hunted. Will try hunting in future when I learn more about it. Ign Falcor Khora
Nothing Venture'd nothing gained, eh?
I might have to borrow that one day :) o7
@@daddex9222 =) o7
Duuuuuude pllleeeaaassseee the scope syndication procurer skin I would eat my own shorts! Ign EsotericRahl I have been doing gas huffing in a small little pocket, I find it to be a bit of a pain to move the gas to Jita to sell.. I need a hauler
nice video, always interesting to see how to make money in lowsec hehe ign wex sm
I usually try to find alternatives to get low security ores other than in low security space. IGN Voidstrider
Been out to a few low sec mining areas in my venture. Can be a rush still not sure what to move up to after the venture
IGN. J H Srar
IGN should be J H Star
oNE NEED FOR MINING SCANNER: HELPS NOT OVER CYCLE YOUR MINING LAZERs oups capitals sorry