True spotted TSN corruscans catfish grows from 10in to 18in in 6 months
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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The following are some of the fish we actually work with, not "fake keywords to drive traffic": South American red tail catfish (SA RTC), Asian RTC (ARTC), tiger shovelnose catfish (TSN), RTC x TSN catfish hybrid, TSN x marbled catfish hybrid, ripsaw or niger catfish, irwini catfish, wyckii catfish, lima shovelnose catfish, sun catfish, marbled catfish, marbled sailfin, any large South American (Pimelodidae, Doradidae, etc.) or Asian (Pangasiidae, Bagridae) catfish, iridescent shark catfish, paroon shark catfish, black ear shark catfish, Phalacronotus, synodontis catfish, mystus catfish, pacu, arowana, giant gourami, eel, spiny eel, blue catfish, channel catfish, flathead catfish, bullhead catfish, white catfish, gar, peacock bass, datnoid, koi, distichodus species, mahseer, probarbus, labeo, black shark, calico shark, bala shark, tinfoil barb, Chinese high fin shark, any large cyprinids and characins, pleco catfish, bichir, knife fish, loach, piranha (legal in Florida, such as, red hook, silver dollar, etc.), barbel, barb, perch, pike, carp, sturgeon, beluga sturgeon, wels catfish, Indo-Pacific tarpon, Aral or Caspian barbel, cichlid, African cichlid, dovii, jaguar cichlid, midas cichlid, vieja cichlid, Texas cichlid, carpintis cichlid, bowfin, redfish, giant Siamese carp, tinfoil, lemon fin barb, small scale mud carp, piraiba catfish, tig catfish, tilapia, Mayan cichlid, leporinus, Prochilodus, flagtail, etc. 
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Thank you!
You're welcome!
I like the little shoal of three. Tinfoil Barb, Tarpon, Balla shark.They go together rather nicely don’t they Vic :) you could call them replacements for tarpons lost brothers and fine replacements they are.
:) They are an odd trio but no problem between them :)
😮One of the biggest mistakes people make especially with higher end catfish is that they predicate to the animals behavior where I rather don't target feed and motivate the cats to go hunting lol my main one that I did that with minus a handful of times when I first got my goonch, I target fed him but that was 4+ yrs ago at 17". Now at 3' he goes in shark mode the moment he smells food. It's in a 1500 gal.
Thank you, Phil, although I am having a hard time grasping what you are saying with respect to our fish. We don't target feed the corruscans, so I am not sure of your angle.
Are you going to try Prochilodus lineatus again? Although you might want to wait for that koi pond before you do
I didn't plan on it. I tried it once out of curiosity despite it not fitting our agenda.
How is its temperament? I think it would do well with the planiceps and piraibas
Seems mellow so far, so, yes, may be okay with the skittish fish like the planiceps and piraiba. Time will show.
Большая пятнистая это акула-балла, расскажи что-нибудь о ней, пожалуйста
Акулий бала (лат. Balantiocheilos melanopterus) - пресноводная рыба семейства карповых. Длина тела до 35 см. Окраска тела серебристая, на спинном, хвостовом и брюшных плавниках широкая черная краевая кайма. Обитает в Юго-Восточной Азии: в бассейнах рек Меконг и Менам-Чао-Прая, на Малайском полуострове, островах Калимантан и Суматра. Населяет чистые реки и ручьи с быстрым течением. Избегает водоёмов с медленным течением. В бассейнах многих рек стал очень редким или совсем исчез. Является популярной аквариумной рыбкой.
Только она не пятнистая. Ты может путаешь с сомом - главным персонажем этого видео.
Ah yes, an update on the most special fish to me at Fish Story:) Keep 'em coming please!😃
1) For both the appetite reduction and in general, do you think the water could be too warm year round? I ask because in River Monsters River of Blood, the episode in which Jeremy Wade caught one, it was stated he was fishing in waters that get much colder than the Amazon in the winter - to the point where it was too cold for the usual piranhas etc.
I would really hate for this fish to die from the same warm water problem as the Murray cods did:(
2) You call the shots here, obviously, but do you think a better name than just Mr. Corruscans might be called for? In my opinion, a fish like this deserves a name to honor its being a gift from a friend that made your dreams of having one come true.
3) I have a workaround to the 'spotted tiger' dilemma. An easy fix is simply to call them surubi like Jeremy Wade and I do, sounds nicer as well IMO.
4) Can't comment without asking about this. I assume the time is coming to move it to the 1800/7K liter to grow enough for one of the 4500/17K liters?
1) It comes from Sao Fransisco and Parana river basins and is considered a subtropical fish. Same subtropical region as ours in FL except in the southern hemisphere. Murray cod is listed as temperate climate fish. Surely in their wild they can pick warmer and cooler waters whenever they please, which is impossible in captivity like ours.
2) I didn’t mean that Mr. Corruscans would be its name. He can be Widmer in Chase’s last name honor :)
3) Thank you. There is no 'spotted tiger' dilemma for me. I mentioned it as a curiosity point. Surubi seems to be a vernacular name for all TSN species and also for other than TSN species of catfish as well in SA. Common names: In their native waters, these fish may be called surubí in Guaraní. Specially in Paraguay- a country that still speaks both Spanish and Guaraní- This name is also used in some Spanish-speaking countries and in Brazil (surubi or surubim). In Peruvian Spanish, they are called doncella or zúngaro. P. corruscans may be called moleque or pintado. They often are referred to in the vernacular as bagre rayado/rajado or pintadillo/pintado (tiger catfish or tiger-shovelnose). P. corruscans, P. fasciatum, and P. tigrinum are also known as spotted sorubim, barred sorubim, and tiger sorubim, respectively. This genus contains the fish commonly known as the tiger shovelnose catfish in the aquarium hobby, though the species in this genus are relatively easy to confuse.
4) Yes, I think it could be moved to the 1800 at any time now.
Thank you for all of this.
1) I don't want to sound like I'm trying to educate you on something you know more about than I do, but it's not in fact the same region as where you are - one of my other interests is actually climatology (specifically including climatology of areas in the Southeast US like Naples), so I can tell you more than you might think on this matter.
Naples isn't subtropical/Cfa, it is a tropical savanna climate/Aw because, besides the threshold for precipitation exceeding evapotranspiration that it meets, all months are above 18 Celsius/64 Fahrenheit. If you look at the Climate section of the Naples Wikipedia page and National Weather Service Miami for Naples Airport, you can see the climate data that lends Naples its tropical classification.
Meanwhile - admittedly this is a limited sample but it is the best I have to go off of unless information from Rodrigo about just where Widmer was caught is available - Jeremy Wade did his River of Blood fishing near Concordia, Entre Rios according to a RUclips commenter who lived there and recognized it in the video. This climate is subtropical/Cfa unlike Naples, and the most recent climate normals on Wikipedia list the warmest month at 26C/78F, the coldest month at 12C/54F, and the annual mean as 19C/66F - overall quite a bit colder than Naples and much more similar to a place like Lake City near the Georgia border (warmest month 27C/80F, coldest month 11C/52F, and annual mean 19C/67F).
Hence my concern that the water could be too warm in Naples.
Hope this helps. Above all else in this regard, I hope Widmer is able to deal with the Naples climate well enough.
2) One step ahead of me here, I see:) I'll have to introduce him as Widmer to my friends because he will be a major part of the Fish Story introductory presentation.
In fact, I think I better let Chase know about this. I think he very much deserves to know that his gift to you will be one of the main intro fish for them as new Fish Story peers.
3) I see. That's news for me, I've never heard surubi used in any sense other than to refer to Pseudoplatystoma species.
I still think I'll keep using that name, though, with the external specifier of Pseudoplatystoma at hand if need be to prevent confusion with any other species called surubi. I like it too much not to use it:)
4) Remember not to use a sock when you do move Widmer:) Slipped my mind to ask in the first comment, but which 4500/17K liter is Widmer going into when he graduates from the 1800/7K liter?
From my perspective it is not immediately clear whether he would be better off with the less aggressive crowd or with the jumbos. Unlike runt Tiggy I would think a larger surubi like Widmer is a bit of a wildcard in this regard because he might not have the attitude to stand up to jumbos like Zazula and the Indian shovelnose but might also be capable of doing a bit of snacking in the less aggressive tank.
@@KuhliLoachTrainer 1) I aways welcome teachings, you know that. You certainly know more on climate as I’ve never really delved as deep in this issue as you. My naïve thought was tropics temps were stable and don’t ever fall below say 75F. In subtropics, like I thought of our area, temps can get down into the 30s, 40s and 50s, the so-called cold spells, which can last from a day to a couple of weeks. So monthly and yearly averages could be grossly misleading in this regard. … If we are talking about a possibility of water temps being too high, we should focus on the warm season temps and forget about cool season temps and yearly averages. … Also, the width of the climate zone matters. Corruscans do not occur only at Concordia but their habitat is wider and this increases natural temp ranges.
2) Widmer is just an unfinished thought. I’ve not decided this.
3) E.g., one of the many vwernacular names for common shovelnose is surubim www.fishbase.se/ComNames/CommonNamesList.php?ID=12144&GenusName=Sorubim&SpeciesName=lima&StockCode=12469
4) Yes, neither 4500 appear a good fit right now for say a 3ft corruscans. We’ll cross this bridge when/if we get there.
Thank you again.
1) Of course I know😊. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't in the probably uncalled for 'student trying to talk to teacher as if they are the teacher' situation because I didn't know just how much you knew (or not) about climatology. Glad to hear this was not that:)
With regards to what it means for water temperatures being too high, unlike with the climate thing what I'm about to get to is certainly not something I am particularly knowledgeable about.
But if memory serves, from my time on Monster Fish Keepers, I seem to remember seeing comment after comment by Duanes on Gymnogeophagus cichlids also from subtropical South America having an issue with year round tropical temperatures, even though they could handle such in summer, because of the lack of any cooldown ended up a detriment. This would seem to contradict the "we should focus on the warm season temps and forget about cool season temps and yearly averages" thing.
I also remember seeing them say that this could be very dependent on locale, and northernmost locales would not have any or as much trouble as most because of the naturally less cooldown. This, again, suggests a contradiction to me with regards to what you said: the larger natural temperature range might not necessarily be applicable to P. corruscans everywhere in their range so much as it is a measure of what the different locales go through.
2) Take your time to pick a name, whatever name it will be I have no doubt it will fit:)
3) I shall add this to my 'you learn something new every day' repetoire!😀
4) Fingers crossed that maybe the 10K/40K liter can be finished in time to be useful here.
Our relationship is not a teacher-student kind but equal peers, but I do value the politeness.
1) I see them as separate issues - the ability to withstand warm temps and the need for a cool down season. We should think about both for sure and it’d be prudent to, but they are not connected to each other. Citing numbers that average highs and lows could muddle up the discussion. The fish could die because of the too high summer temps or too high winter temps or both. I see the reason for our different thinking: I was thinking about too warm summer temps, you were thinking about too warm yearly average temps.
2) What name suggestion(s) do you have?
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4) Yes, I really need to get on finishing the 10K/40K liter.
Viel zu kleine Becken 😢
Translation: Pools far too small
Reply: Thank you. This is a temporary grow-out and shelter kind of tank.
Does the spotted shovel nose have spines on the pec fins like the tiger does?
All Pseudoplatystoma aka TSN have three sharp spines, yes.
Jeremy Wade had quite the experience with those spines!😂
ruclips.net/video/yqnBmDbA_-Q/видео.html
Ouch! I know the feeling.
He should have let go when the TSN slid out of safe grip.
Lol I thought that comment got refused. Glad to see it at least came through for you!🤣
I have yet to know the feeling and if I have any say in things, it's going to stay that way:)
It would definitely have ended up better if he let go before it got to that point, but all the same I can appreciate what happened to showcase the unscripted authenticity of River Monsters (ie: not only would nobody in their right mind willingly follow a script where that happens, but for even a shameful error like that to not only make it to the full episode for showing the full story but get a place in a special episode too for explanation purposes is commendable).