I really hope he gets the help he needs again, he has a very special place in the heart of hockey fans especially me as an islanders fan and I really hope he can get better and get himself back on his feet again
@@joeyoung2728 yea because the team had to play twice as hard to keep the other team from scoring trust me I went to a lot of his games. He was hot garbage. couldn’t even stop a beach bal
With this year's final having recently concluded, I thought that this would make a great story video: "From Undrafted to Playoff MVP - The Jonathan Marchessault Story".
Oh man, I was not expecting snake farms to come up in this story 😂 I had a nice laugh about that! But in all seriousness: for his family’s sake I hope he can work through this!
It was the snake farm investment financial disclosures in Missouri court that forced him to declare bankruptcy. Not fun-fact: He was a suspect in the murder of the farm owner before the guys wife was charged.
I just listened to a truecrime podcast the other day about that murder. They mentioned in it that one of his customers was an NHL player who spent millions on snakes. I didn't realize it was him.
I seen his story before and this is what inspired me to come out and seek help for my alcoholism and my mental help and it fucking help me a lot .thank you robin love you bro
I remembered him being on Ottawa and thought he was pretty dang good behind Anderson out there. Then I remember him being on the Islands but I do not remember him playing for Buffalo or Chicago.
Easy to say he made 33 million, but taxes take half. Agent makes 5%, and various other costs of living the life of a pro athlete- These numbers aren't as big as you might think.
Taxes don't take "half" with all the write offs he would have used with all those financial dealings and businesses he was involved in. Wouldn't surprise me if the actual dollar amount was less than 10%.
Taxes don’t take “half” that’s not how taxes work. In fact if you play somewhere that doesn’t have a state income tax, for example, vegas, you don’t pay much in taxes at all. Certainly not “half” 🤡🤡🤡
@@stupidas9466 I truly hope you come into that kind of money some day so you'll see how wrong you are. Government is death by a thousand cuts- Let alone the bad decisions that can happen to pro athletes via the people that surround them.
@@richardtherichard26 You do realize that every game played in less tax friendlier states- The athlete must pay state income tax on right? Let alone those years in Ottawa and New York where the taxes are ruthless ( Ney York also has a city tax on top of State and Federal Taxes ). Government is literally death by a thousand cuts.
I think it’s not a bad idea to have someone control your money too make sure all bills are paid and that you don’t go spending like crazy and rack up a bunch of debt which is easy too do when you have millions of dollars.
Not saying it’s the reason professional athletes go broke, but keep in mind taxes😂Depending on where they live, a pro athlete making $30M could actually bring home like $15M. Plus things like property taxes on Million+ dollar homes. And pating their agents. Again, that shouldn’t make them broke, but it’s something to think about.
I feel for him I’m a former minor pro goalie and suffer from bipolar depression as well as being in recovery from alcohol and substance abuse and I can’t say I haven’t spent a lot on my fair share of bad investments plus have head numerous hip surgeries and injuries and bad concussions… I hope he lands back on his feet
These athletes need to hire professionals that can be held legally accountable to take their money away from them, invest it properly and provide reports on their finances instead of letting themselves fill their pockets with money so much that they blow it all like a teenager would.
Just because you are a gifted athlete doesn't mean you are a gifted money manager. 1.2 million for snakes? 60 thousand for tropical fish? Can you say idiot?
he made over 30M and max tax on that is in the 46% range cause he mostly played in the US..please..the guy is a drunk and an addict..thats why he lost all his money, plain and simple..and in the USA? the lowest is 31.7% in 6 markets going up to 45.8% and in Canada it goes from 43% to 49.6%
You can't really count or blame jack johnson going broke let alone bankrupt on him, when his parents basically stole his money & treated it as their own.
Wow, I had really no idea Robin Lehner was in this bad mudd deep of debts!!!! I don't want to bash on the guy, but I just can't understand how he can not have any control over his money? I mean if he also have business (witch I would not have recomended due to medical reasons based on balancing his professional career and mentall instability), then he really should have had some overview analytic advisor to better manage his companies and investments. Now it is an awfull mess and difficult to understand what he is guilty of and what his business associates are guilty of wrong doings. But I hope he can get things settled and get his life in order again.
Buffalo Sabres did right by showing him the door. And as a Buffalonian, we didn't like the bad mouthing he did towards the Sabres and the city after he left. His current problems after his time in Buffalo validate the fact that the guy needs a lot of professional help.
You did not take into account a player has to leave a portion of his salary in escrow , has to pay agents , realtors, etc. so it's really not as much as you would think.
Some parts of these videos are very informative and great, and some parts are a tough watch. The narrator emphasizes weird things, like the guy who was murdered by his wife, as if Lehner was in the wrong for doing business with someone who later was murdered as if there was any way he could have known. Almost sounds like the narrator is ridiculing at times, which is not really his place. Anyway, otherwise an informative video. As a high tier goalie, Lehner will probably end up just fine, and be better off than any of us regular people.
Agreed - narrator was salacious and seemed to enjoy, almost celebrating the unfortunate circumstances. The murder has NO BEARING upon Lehner and the whole "strap yourself in" approach to it being mentioned is pathetic. Also, how is overspending on reptiles (as a business) any worse than having a gambling addiction? Kane's story in my opinion was worse, partly because his wife was attempting to publicly leverage him.
He's just smugly reading goalie stats off of Wiki, then proceeds to just read the bankruptcy details, while almost entirely sweeping his personal issues (the real bane of his existence) under the rug. It's a horrendously poor video from start to finish, it's so lazy and poorly researched
In spite of alcoholism and depression, I still have difficulty understanding how someone must file for bankruptcy after having earned 40$ million. I wonder what Lehner's IQ is...business dealings are very odd...
You clearly lack the understanding of how badly substance abuse can derail your entire life. No amount of money is safe, 40 mill is not hard to piss away if you live like you've hit rock bottom and feel like there's nothing left to lose. It's not an IQ thing
When you earn a lot you tend to spend a lot, and you have a lot of people wanting to help you with that, i'm pretty sure it's way more common for people who earned a lot of money to file for bankruptcy than for the average earner.
@@85blutch Not sure that this is always the case..I haven't seen enough cases I guess..maybe you're right...I would at least try to cut expenses...but again, if I had 40,000,000$, I honestly would not know what to do with it all...I think there are only so many yachts, so many Mercedes, so many Swiss ski chalets, so many private business jets I could ever use...that all my needs would be fulfilled several times over...
The medical staff of the golden knight must have been aware of his bipolarity...kind of surprising that they did not keep an eye on him to make sure he is getting the proper treatments and medications. Teams usually are very close to their players and try their best to help them out. Furthermore, his agent is another person who should have kept an eye on him. Maybe it is Lehner who did not want any help...!!!
Honestly, it’s kinda painful. Not a rocket scientist that hires a financial planner etc. you should know your ability to handle cash. These totals are pre tax and pre agent earnings
It's a minor mystery why the Sabres didn't keep him, but a major mystery why the Islanders didn't. He played extremely well for them; I wonder what the real story is.
It's not a mystery why the sabres moved on, it's believed he played drunk and stoned and admittingly had his demons. The sabres kept quiet and tried to help but his erractic behavior on and off the ice became too much. Probably a similar reason for the islanders and they also most likely attributed his increased level of play to their system, which is likely a very true statement I feel for the guy, but he didn't do himself any favors by blasting the sabres on the way out after they tried to help him with his problems.
@@Ruman17 My choice of words "minor mystery" is peculiar but I believe accurate: Sabres' organization didn't admit any of what you describe, but it's not hard to figure out.
You take out the loan, you pay back the loan, not a hard concept. I don’t feel bad for him, he should know better. It’s not the that hard to hire an accountant, that’s basic business practice. Again, he went in way over his head and is now facing the consequences of his actions. He has enough money to hire a lawyer but not enough money to hire an accountant to deal with his money. Gotta pay the piper Lehner.
I do. Yeah he made some dumb decisions but haven’t we all? Difference is that his dumb decisions are going to haunt him for the rest of his life, as he’ll likely never have a chance to make that kind of money again. It’s something that a ton of pro athletes go through, but this dude had some additional demons that most don’t. As someone who got their ass kicked by addiction for a while but has been clean and sober for 7 years, and has family with similar mental health issues-I absolutely feel for this guy. Yeah he made a mistake, yeah maybe it’s hard to feel bad for somebody who had millions as someone who probably never will. But I definitely feel for him.
@@abikuneebus Nah, you’re giving him a pass because of “mental health issues”. That doesn’t excuse his behavior or his actions. We need to stop giving people who have issues a pass. His actions have consequences, no one forced him to anything when it comes his money. He physically did it himself and got way out of control. No sympathy from me and from many others. He made his bed and now he has to deal with his mess.
Tell that to basically 1/2 the countries in the world. Many - especially America are deep in debt - apparently by design. Funny how it has to apply to the average Joe, but somehow not ANY government. How can you shame an individual and not do the same for the govt. of the country that he is living within?
I hope you gets whatever he needs to turn things around. I love him as a person becuase he has a mind of his own and was a rare pro althlete who had the balls and the brains to actually question the jabs. Which of course are not what has been advertised, quite the contrary. Best of health and happiness to Robin.
@@maxmartin2763 No he spoke out about the NHL lying to them. He said that the NHL told the players that if they get jabbed then they can live freely, and yes not have to quarantine and be with their families etc. So he got jabbed for that reason and nothing changed. So it just proves that the jab had nothing to do with health, protecting from any virus. Just furthe rprove it was never about peoples health.
@@davidrollins5594 WRONG! Lehner whined that the league promised that quarantine restrictions would be relaxed once 85% of the players had been vaccinated. Lehner was avocating for the MENTAL HEALTH of the players. He believed some were having difficulties coping with the quarantine. He never questioned the necessity of the vaccine. Lehner later apoligized to the NHL for his "like living in a prison" comment after it was pointed out that the entire world was suffering from quarantine conditions, not just NHL players. Another vaccine conspiracy theory gets destroyed by facts and data.
Because he simply wasn’t that good. He looked good because his team around him played their hearts out to make him look good. He’s just as bad as lalime
Lehners done. VGK fans have completely turned on the guy after Fleury was sent packing to the Blackhawks (this was also when the fans finally started to how GM Kelly Mccrimmon needs to be fired). Sad thing is that Jonathan Quick would make a better fit for VGK than Lehners does. What sad about Lehners, when a goal goes in that he doesn't like, it seems he just gives up before it's gone in the net. Honestly hope VGK gets rid of him.
This last season without Lehner has been the best for the Knights since the first two seasons. The "backup" goalies have more than stepped up and we have the Cup. His active tenure also had a lot of behind the scenes goings on, a certain amount of fan alienation (🌸 dust up), and concurrent coaching issues. Now that we seem to have settled into our future with a solid coaching staff and talented goalies we have to ask ourselves if Lehner needed by the Knights anymore. Between his issues and a so-so coach, the dismal 2021/2022 season spoke for itself.
Kane's story is MUCH worse. His wife publicly threatened and tried to leverage him. That's a MAJOR DISASTER and very embarrassing along with his other troubles. Just because reptiles are involved (so what?) and the seller was murdered by his wife, have no bearing upon who Lehner is or his story. Lehner is a great goalie - hope he gets back and has great success!
@@dylanr8481 Not great - but, now that I think about it. Who are we to judge? Better to have lost, than not played at all. He's am NHL GOALIE! Pretty amazing accomplishment. Not many naysayers can measure up to that - and it could be argued that not measuring up is more embarrassing. Media just makes a spectacle out of everything and then programs us to respond as we are. We are all programmed and it's pretty far removed from who we all really are, what we end up saying/doing etc. CIAI head - William Casey - 1981: "Once everything the American people believe is false, our job will be done" CIA run the 'media' Guess I fell for it as well - its so easy to lose perspective - and I'm fortunate enough to know better, but hard to remember sometimes....
Hmmm. 30 million over 7, 10, whatever years... and bankruptcy? Yeah well, we all got problems, I barely make 30 grand a year, barely able to feed myself...😢 Must be real important snakes and fish.
I never thought murder would be involved with the story even though he wasn't the one who did it but only 16 years for that guys wife who killed him that is incredibly easy on them.
What is he supposed to do? Not buy 60k worth of fish while in bankruptcy and owing 27 mil...... He's doing the right thing. Also, who gives out millions in loans without doing some basic due diligence?
@@JarodJoseph Ya - and I'm more than willing to let them expose/destroy themselves. Seems inevitable. Bud Light etc. and now: Rice is bad - must be canceled. Never interrupt your enemy when they are busy destroying themselves/the left will eat itself. God Bless!
Tbh if I was in his shoes I would have put every penny away being in the nhl because if I’m being honest he was actually terrible. I think he took his career for granted thinking he’d always have a job but he lasted way longer than I expected him too. He should of had at least 100 million put a side for himself. He fcked him self
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You would think a goalie as good as Lehner would know how to save.
Ha.
You don't even have to.. Just hire someone who does
@@Morpheen999 the joke flew right over your head and into the back of the net.
@@KCG189 Yeah, that went Top Shelf!!😅
@@KCG189 I got the joke, It just isn't funny to me
I really hope he gets the help he needs again, he has a very special place in the heart of hockey fans especially me as an islanders fan and I really hope he can get better and get himself back on his feet again
Yeah, crazy how good he was, for him to throw it away.
Meth & fentanyl are last on list
@@Chyeahokay he was not good. His team around him made him look good
@@jonnysnipes3123 what?!!! He had an insane save % with the Sabres. You have no clue what you're watching.
@@joeyoung2728 yea because the team had to play twice as hard to keep the other team from scoring trust me I went to a lot of his games. He was hot garbage. couldn’t even stop a beach bal
Unfortunately bipolar can make you very impulsive when your manic 😢
I kinda wish this would have been touched on a little more tbh. People don't understand what bipolar is really like.
You know, it's crazy how we've seen this happen three times in such a short time frame. And for 3 different reasons.
With this year's final having recently concluded, I thought that this would make a great story video: "From Undrafted to Playoff MVP - The Jonathan Marchessault Story".
Added it to the list the second he won the Conn Smythe 😂
@@OddManRush OMG lol.
Oh man, I was not expecting snake farms to come up in this story 😂 I had a nice laugh about that!
But in all seriousness: for his family’s sake I hope he can work through this!
It was the snake farm investment financial disclosures in Missouri court that forced him to declare bankruptcy. Not fun-fact: He was a suspect in the murder of the farm owner before the guys wife was charged.
I just listened to a truecrime podcast the other day about that murder. They mentioned in it that one of his customers was an NHL player who spent millions on snakes. I didn't realize it was him.
They should’ve mentioned Lehner’s name.
What podcast ?
@Jesus Fried Christ they probably did. I was just busy working when I was listening, so I wasn't paying that close attention
@@justincraig398 it was a dateline episode Secrets at snake ranch. They put the audio from the TV show out as a podcast.
"A few wrong moves" .... the guy spent $1.2 million on Snakes and $60,000 on Tropical Fish. I'd say that's some colossal bad decision making.
Wow! Mental Illness doesn't discriminate! It's no joke. I hope he get's well! Great video! :)
I seen his story before and this is what inspired me to come out and seek help for my alcoholism and my mental help and it fucking help me a lot .thank you robin love you bro
Video starts at 9:40
I have really enjoyed your story telling. Keep up the great work OMR.
Isn't he OMR?
@@payrysdoscs4903 Thanks for catching that typo, much appreciated.
Poor guy. I’m so sorry to hear this
" Snakes? snakes? I don't know no snakes - harry Lyme from home alone
so cool that NHL is like the BEST organization for actually not losing ALLLLL of their money
When people say "goalies are weird"... Uh yeah, that's not a joke.
What a story, great video as always ODR keep it up
Isn't he OMR?
Florida man should have never signed in Vegas. Probably the worst place he could have gone after his recovery and career revival in NY.
bipolar can involve major spending
Great video as always!
Hopefully he can get through his money troubles
Lehner coming back and getting his starting spot back would be amazing. I hope he does. An LT and Lehner Tandem with LT as the third would be amazing.
Robin is a great guy who helped a lot of people. He will overcome this and get back to winning in the NHL.
Yeah. Not
He's getting a little old for that😅
@Mike he is 31. Goalies age well. The best ones play better In their 30s. Robin is a winner. He will be a top-tier goalie next season.
He will not make it back. He lies about sobriety and keeps the truth from the team. He has no self-control. Extremely self-indulgent and narcissistic.
I honestly never knew he has been on so many teams I thought he started on Vegas!
His breakout year was for the Islanders
I remembered him being on Ottawa and thought he was pretty dang good behind Anderson out there. Then I remember him being on the Islands but I do not remember him playing for Buffalo or Chicago.
Some people simply just don’t understand money and how to handle it. This is not an isolated case nor is it limited to the wealthy.
Bruh bought millions of dollars worth of snakes. Players with huge deals should be forced to have a financial advisor to prevent this nonsense
Easy to say he made 33 million, but taxes take half. Agent makes 5%, and various other costs of living the life of a pro athlete- These numbers aren't as big as you might think.
Taxes don't take "half" with all the write offs he would have used with all those financial dealings and businesses he was involved in. Wouldn't surprise me if the actual dollar amount was less than 10%.
oh nooooo, only like 17 millions dollars… how could you liveeeee… at your VERY CONSERVATIVE estimates
Taxes don’t take “half” that’s not how taxes work. In fact if you play somewhere that doesn’t have a state income tax, for example, vegas, you don’t pay much in taxes at all. Certainly not “half” 🤡🤡🤡
@@stupidas9466 I truly hope you come into that kind of money some day so you'll see how wrong you are. Government is death by a thousand cuts- Let alone the bad decisions that can happen to pro athletes via the people that surround them.
@@richardtherichard26 You do realize that every game played in less tax friendlier states- The athlete must pay state income tax on right? Let alone those years in Ottawa and New York where the taxes are ruthless ( Ney York also has a city tax on top of State and Federal Taxes ). Government is literally death by a thousand cuts.
I think it’s not a bad idea to have someone control your money too make sure all bills are paid and that you don’t go spending like crazy and rack up a bunch of debt which is easy too do when you have millions of dollars.
Not saying it’s the reason professional athletes go broke, but keep in mind taxes😂Depending on where they live, a pro athlete making $30M could actually bring home like $15M. Plus things like property taxes on Million+ dollar homes. And pating their agents. Again, that shouldn’t make them broke, but it’s something to think about.
I feel for him I’m a former minor pro goalie and suffer from bipolar depression as well as being in recovery from alcohol and substance abuse and I can’t say I haven’t spent a lot on my fair share of bad investments plus have head numerous hip surgeries and injuries and bad concussions… I hope he lands back on his feet
Doesn't the nhl have a forced savings program?? They should..why not invest in index finds or etf's?? Where's his money manager?
He has always been an awesome goalie. I hope he comes back.
These athletes need to hire professionals that can be held legally accountable to take their money away from them, invest it properly and provide reports on their finances instead of letting themselves fill their pockets with money so much that they blow it all like a teenager would.
Just because you are a gifted athlete doesn't mean you are a gifted money manager. 1.2 million for snakes? 60 thousand for tropical fish? Can you say idiot?
probably manic while buying it
He better hope he can keep playing until he's 50 at this rate
Well done video, having all that money and feeling like you’ll earn a lot more can lead to some really dumb spending
Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! This video never once mentions the taxes. As high as 45% in Canada, and 15 - 20% in the States.
No one on the planet has EVER gone bankrupt bc of taxes. That’s not how it works. 🤡🤡🤡
he made over 30M and max tax on that is in the 46% range cause he mostly played in the US..please..the guy is a drunk and an addict..thats why he lost all his money, plain and simple..and in the USA? the lowest is 31.7% in 6 markets going up to 45.8% and in Canada it goes from 43% to 49.6%
He's still living better than any of we are so I don't want to hear it😂😂
You can't really count or blame jack johnson going broke let alone bankrupt on him, when his parents basically stole his money & treated it as their own.
He fell off when he left the isles
Wow, I had really no idea Robin Lehner was in this bad mudd deep of debts!!!!
I don't want to bash on the guy, but I just can't understand how he can not have any control over his money? I mean if he also have business (witch I would not have recomended due to medical reasons based on balancing his professional career and mentall instability), then he really should have had some overview analytic advisor to better manage his companies and investments. Now it is an awfull mess and difficult to understand what he is guilty of and what his business associates are guilty of wrong doings.
But I hope he can get things settled and get his life in order again.
Ok, for me, the story reeeeally got weird with the exotic snake purchase. Can you imagine defaulting on an exotic snake loan? Wow!
Talk about a terrible business acumen
That Chapter has a great video about the murder of Ben Renick. Highly recommend
Bro’s credit score lookin like my gpa 😭😭😭
Vegas needs to cut ties with him if he is going to miss the next season.
When that hunting rifle mix tape instrumental came on i lost it shout out to itsreal85
SNAKES, why did it have to be SNAKES (and tropical fishes?!)
His house in ottawa had huge aquariums, someone told me he spent millions on them
Buffalo Sabres did right by showing him the door. And as a Buffalonian, we didn't like the bad mouthing he did towards the Sabres and the city after he left. His current problems after his time in Buffalo validate the fact that the guy needs a lot of professional help.
Drinking to handle panic attacks leads to more panic attacks. Trust me, I know.
You did not take into account a player has to leave a portion of his salary in escrow , has to pay agents , realtors, etc. so it's really not as much as you would think.
Some parts of these videos are very informative and great, and some parts are a tough watch. The narrator emphasizes weird things, like the guy who was murdered by his wife, as if Lehner was in the wrong for doing business with someone who later was murdered as if there was any way he could have known. Almost sounds like the narrator is ridiculing at times, which is not really his place.
Anyway, otherwise an informative video. As a high tier goalie, Lehner will probably end up just fine, and be better off than any of us regular people.
Agreed - narrator was salacious and seemed to enjoy, almost celebrating
the unfortunate circumstances. The murder has NO BEARING upon Lehner
and the whole "strap yourself in" approach to it being mentioned is pathetic.
Also, how is overspending on reptiles (as a business) any worse than having
a gambling addiction? Kane's story in my opinion was worse, partly because
his wife was attempting to publicly leverage him.
He's just smugly reading goalie stats off of Wiki, then proceeds to just read the bankruptcy details, while almost entirely sweeping his personal issues (the real bane of his existence) under the rug. It's a horrendously poor video from start to finish, it's so lazy and poorly researched
In spite of alcoholism and depression, I still have difficulty understanding how someone must file for bankruptcy after having earned 40$ million. I wonder what Lehner's IQ is...business dealings are very odd...
You clearly lack the understanding of how badly substance abuse can derail your entire life. No amount of money is safe, 40 mill is not hard to piss away if you live like you've hit rock bottom and feel like there's nothing left to lose. It's not an IQ thing
When you earn a lot you tend to spend a lot, and you have a lot of people wanting to help you with that, i'm pretty sure it's way more common for people who earned a lot of money to file for bankruptcy than for the average earner.
@@85blutch I agree somewhat, but with 40 million dollars, if it were me, I would try to sell off assets rather declaring bankrupcty...
@@merc340sr Isn't one of the things about bankruptcy that the sum of your assets are worth less than what you owe? I think? Not sure...
@@85blutch Not sure that this is always the case..I haven't seen enough cases I guess..maybe you're right...I would at least try to cut expenses...but again, if I had 40,000,000$, I honestly would not know what to do with it all...I think there are only so many yachts, so many Mercedes, so many Swiss ski chalets, so many private business jets I could ever use...that all my needs would be fulfilled several times over...
The medical staff of the golden knight must have been aware of his bipolarity...kind of surprising that they did not keep an eye on him to make sure he is getting the proper treatments and medications. Teams usually are very close to their players and try their best to help them out. Furthermore, his agent is another person who should have kept an eye on him. Maybe it is Lehner who did not want any help...!!!
Buffalo doctors diagnosed him, but when the whole Jack thing was going on Vegas was made out to be the only place for medical care in the entire NHL
Rare snakes stocks 📈🚀
Honestly, it’s kinda painful. Not a rocket scientist that hires a financial planner etc. you should know your ability to handle cash. These totals are pre tax and pre agent earnings
It's a minor mystery why the Sabres didn't keep him, but a major mystery why the Islanders didn't. He played extremely well for them; I wonder what the real story is.
It's not a mystery why the sabres moved on, it's believed he played drunk and stoned and admittingly had his demons. The sabres kept quiet and tried to help but his erractic behavior on and off the ice became too much.
Probably a similar reason for the islanders and they also most likely attributed his increased level of play to their system, which is likely a very true statement
I feel for the guy, but he didn't do himself any favors by blasting the sabres on the way out after they tried to help him with his problems.
Islanders organization already had a plan for varly and sorokin. Otherwise no way they wouldn’t have signed him 😭 we love lehner on the island
@@Ruman17 My choice of words "minor mystery" is peculiar but I believe accurate: Sabres' organization didn't admit any of what you describe, but it's not hard to figure out.
You take out the loan, you pay back the loan, not a hard concept. I don’t feel bad for him, he should know better. It’s not the that hard to hire an accountant, that’s basic business practice. Again, he went in way over his head and is now facing the consequences of his actions. He has enough money to hire a lawyer but not enough money to hire an accountant to deal with his money. Gotta pay the piper Lehner.
I do. Yeah he made some dumb decisions but haven’t we all? Difference is that his dumb decisions are going to haunt him for the rest of his life, as he’ll likely never have a chance to make that kind of money again.
It’s something that a ton of pro athletes go through, but this dude had some additional demons that most don’t. As someone who got their ass kicked by addiction for a while but has been clean and sober for 7 years, and has family with similar mental health issues-I absolutely feel for this guy. Yeah he made a mistake, yeah maybe it’s hard to feel bad for somebody who had millions as someone who probably never will. But I definitely feel for him.
@@abikuneebus Nah, you’re giving him a pass because of “mental health issues”. That doesn’t excuse his behavior or his actions. We need to stop giving people who have issues a pass. His actions have consequences, no one forced him to anything when it comes his money. He physically did it himself and got way out of control. No sympathy from me and from many others. He made his bed and now he has to deal with his mess.
@@HuskyLeafGaming you know yo can feel bad for him and recognize that he messed up. I know you are perfect probably and have never made mistakes ..
@@HuskyLeafGaming channel is really creepy btw.
Tell that to basically 1/2 the countries in the world.
Many - especially America are deep in debt - apparently by design.
Funny how it has to apply to the average Joe, but somehow not ANY government.
How can you shame an individual and not do the same for the govt. of the
country that he is living within?
I hope you gets whatever he needs to turn things around. I love him as a person becuase he has a mind of his own and was a rare pro althlete who had the balls and the brains to actually question the jabs. Which of course are not what has been advertised, quite the contrary. Best of health and happiness to Robin.
He spoke out against the quarantine NHL games NOT the jab! He was vaccinated before most of the public was. Your anti-jab rant is nonsense.
@@maxmartin2763 No he spoke out about the NHL lying to them. He said that the NHL told the players that if they get jabbed then they can live freely, and yes not have to quarantine and be with their families etc. So he got jabbed for that reason and nothing changed. So it just proves that the jab had nothing to do with health, protecting from any virus. Just furthe rprove it was never about peoples health.
@@davidrollins5594 WRONG! Lehner whined that the league promised that quarantine restrictions would be relaxed once 85% of the players had been vaccinated. Lehner was avocating for the MENTAL HEALTH of the players. He believed some were having difficulties coping with the quarantine. He never questioned the necessity of the vaccine. Lehner later apoligized to the NHL for his "like living in a prison" comment after it was pointed out that the entire world was suffering from quarantine conditions, not just NHL players. Another vaccine conspiracy theory gets destroyed by facts and data.
Exotic snakes and tropical fish? Guy gone bankrupt from dumb animals.
Human is dumpest animal
Bro spent 60k on fish when he was going through bankruptcy? Smh
Manic episodes in people with bipolar disorder can result in impulse buying.
Also the medical costs and surgery aren't covered by the NHL
Sad so many people hand wave this guys stupidity as mental health problems. It does a huge disservice to people who have real problems.
bipolar is considered a severe mental illness
Exotic snakes and fishes???, should have just got a tiger like Mike Tyson 😂
Love that guy!
How much of that went to taxation and escrow?
Still lost on how he didn’t win the vezina w the isle
Because he simply wasn’t that good. He looked good because his team around him played their hearts out to make him look good. He’s just as bad as lalime
Lehners done. VGK fans have completely turned on the guy after Fleury was sent packing to the Blackhawks (this was also when the fans finally started to how GM Kelly Mccrimmon needs to be fired). Sad thing is that Jonathan Quick would make a better fit for VGK than Lehners does. What sad about Lehners, when a goal goes in that he doesn't like, it seems he just gives up before it's gone in the net. Honestly hope VGK gets rid of him.
Jack Johnson didn’t do absolutely anything besides trusting his parents which is sad the rest are kinda stupid
This last season without Lehner has been the best for the Knights since the first two seasons. The "backup" goalies have more than stepped up and we have the Cup. His active tenure also had a lot of behind the scenes goings on, a certain amount of fan alienation (🌸 dust up), and concurrent coaching issues. Now that we seem to have settled into our future with a solid coaching staff and talented goalies we have to ask ourselves if Lehner needed by the Knights anymore. Between his issues and a so-so coach, the dismal 2021/2022 season spoke for itself.
Getting his neck tatted up should’ve been a huge read flag.
Kane's story is MUCH worse.
His wife publicly threatened and tried to leverage him.
That's a MAJOR DISASTER and very embarrassing along with his other troubles.
Just because reptiles are involved (so what?) and the seller was murdered by his wife,
have no bearing upon who Lehner is or his story.
Lehner is a great goalie - hope he gets back and has great success!
Still embarrassing...
@@dylanr8481
Not great - but, now that I think about it.
Who are we to judge?
Better to have lost, than not played at all.
He's am NHL GOALIE!
Pretty amazing accomplishment.
Not many naysayers can measure up
to that - and it could be argued that not measuring up is more embarrassing.
Media just makes a spectacle out of everything and then programs us to
respond as we are.
We are all programmed and it's pretty
far removed from who we all really are,
what we end up saying/doing etc.
CIAI head - William Casey - 1981:
"Once everything the American people believe is false, our job will be done"
CIA run the 'media'
Guess I fell for it as well - its so easy to lose perspective - and I'm fortunate enough to know better, but hard to remember sometimes....
Hmmm. 30 million over 7, 10, whatever years... and bankruptcy? Yeah well, we all got problems, I barely make 30 grand a year, barely able to feed myself...😢 Must be real important snakes and fish.
Setbacks??? He made over $33,000,000 in just a few years. Setbacks?? .. Stupidity.
I never thought murder would be involved with the story even though he wasn't the one who did it but only 16 years for that guys wife who killed him that is incredibly easy on them.
Stupidity & handing over money is the American Way
Very sorry,but bipolar disorder,is something I would not wish on anyone,God help him,and all who have mental problems!
Don't know what to make of this. Poor snakes though...
You put the Swedish Guy in Las Vegas, Nothing to see here 😅
Some cant handle staying rich
The dude is delusional. This is no surprise.
No - Biden and his supporters (you?) are though....
What about kuch, he definitely had a pin coming, so I have to side with Sheldon
Isn't it easy to claim to see the full picture just because you have most of the public records at hand?
I'm still a little lost. So he got business loans so that he could start a rare reptile business? I just don't get it.
Just poor money management from day one. Don't spend more than what's coming in. Low risk investments with proven groups. No borrowing.
I doubt hes bankrupt. It's a way to get out of the debts.
What is he supposed to do? Not buy 60k worth of fish while in bankruptcy and owing 27 mil...... He's doing the right thing. Also, who gives out millions in loans without doing some basic due diligence?
The Fed, World Banks.
How come this level of scrutiny is not applied to corrupt govts. ONLY to individuals?
@@bry4162 you know why.
@@JarodJoseph
Ya - and I'm more than willing to let them expose/destroy themselves. Seems inevitable.
Bud Light etc. and now:
Rice is bad - must be canceled.
Never interrupt your enemy when they
are busy destroying themselves/the
left will eat itself.
God Bless!
Lenny is all about himself.
Very sad.
Oh, by good side, meaning he'd keep buying gifts. I'd return them.
Tbh if I was in his shoes I would have put every penny away being in the nhl because if I’m being honest he was actually terrible. I think he took his career for granted thinking he’d always have a job but he lasted way longer than I expected him too. He should of had at least 100 million put a side for himself. He fcked him self
Weak sauce, he needs to be back on that strong sauce to get peak Robin again.
Didn't expect snakes and murder to be part of his bankruptcy story did ya? 😁
MC Hammer when from $100 Million to zero also.
my goodness i lost 90k to those degenerates !
40 million is more than most people will see in their lifetime??....you mean 99.9 of everyone on earth.
Saving the pucks but not the bucks.
Here's the answer. He took out a bunch of loans and a bunch of horrible business investments. The end. You're welcome. 😂
Exotic snakes and tropical fish