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Well, I think the only point of the water cup was to learn balance around a corner, but since he had it taken away at a race, he didn't need to worry about spilling so he could go past the limit of the water.
I wanna remind yall, something I DEFINITLY learned from. Smooth doesn't mean slow movements something can be consistent and direct but extremely fast aswell, just depends on how much of that action your car and yourself prefer.
How Fujiwara's Ae86 went to Akina ghost is... Takumi want to finish his delivery earlier. So he went faster and faster everyday and return home Because he want to sleep
@@takumifujiwara2674 if you watch Initial D, Takumi isnt really interested into racing in the beginning.. for him, driving fast is just part of family business... after all Bunta never really told Takumi anything while training him into a racer...
if i am in takumi’s pov i would do the same thing… assuming i’m going back home late and all i want is to have more sleep time… for every minute i put more time on the road is every minute i had lesser sleep back at home
i rember watching my dad drive very fast on country roads i remember him being very smooth in corners this vid bassically explains it to me that he is the closest thing to takumi considering hes driven lorries for 20+ years and regular car driving for even longer I want to surpass his level to honour it as cringy as that sounds.
I'm pretty sure he had a load/batch of tofu in the back and the cup was a reminder to be smooth and gentle as not to jolt the tofu and break it. The side affect of this, and the fact he'd been driving since he was 14, gave him the ability to be both fast and smooth. He had to deliver the tofu early and be home in time for school.
in the anime he mention something about wanting to reach early so he could have more free time or something... he simply wanted to go fast and the cup was the reminder on how fast he could go. and he mention that he did spill the water lots of times in the beggining cause he was so scared, but after a while he got over it and drives likes a Angel xD
He started driving since he was 13 because he was already 18 when they discovered he was the one who already did the deliveries. In the anime, Bunta and Takumi said he replaced his dad for 5 years straight.
Like what Bruce Lee once said: _"Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless, like water"_ That martial arts philosophy of his can also be applied with driving theory... damn The whole purpose of Bunta training Takumi to deliver tofu with a cup of water is for him to learn how to drive smooth, like water
I remember when I was a kid reading the manga. I told my parents about this and they made me do it when learning to drive. Later on I picked up my great grandmother and she told my mom it's more comfortable driving with me than her lmao.
To be fair, Bunta never made Takumi race with a water cup. He only made him use it when he delivers tofu, so basically it had more meaning to protect the tofu and secondary goal was to make him learn the "balance game" which helped him a lot in the development of the story.
in the context of initial d, the water cup training method is perfect because it wasnt 'training' for him *initially*. It was just an intuitive way for him to learn without even knowing he was learning thanks to his racing legend dad. Thats why the show is so genius
*remember japan has well maintained roads with nearly 0% potholes, so smooth transitioning is possible but in Rally racing this method goes out the window* 😂
@@Jhelil Yeah there’s a few episodes where the roads are bumpier and potholed and Takumi has to learn to adjust to it. But I mean the OPs point was that off-road your water spills either way so idk what the point off my comment was.
The thing about the Takumi with the cup of water, it enhances his sensitivity to the weight distribution of the car, so he can feel more about his car nuances to a fine detail which allows him to drive at his car's limit during racing. Also about the hard threshold braking, it was noted during the final battle of AE86 vs AE86 in Stage 5 that Takumi didn't have treshold braking as his weapon until Stage 4 when he noticed that Shinji was braking loosely in the corners. This backs up the point made in the video that you can't learn threshold braking with the water cup because Takumi was limited by it.
You say it does more harm than good but if you use the skills you learned as a base line and adapt it could work well. For ecample as you said it helps in the understanding of weight transfer. But then you learn the point in which your car is over/under steering. If used simply as a base line to develop further skills and so on it could be very beneficial.
However, as you learn about weight transfer you are subconsciously developing those inhibiting habits. If you wanted to understand weight transfer you can just think critically about how the car behaves differently under acceleration and braking, so you really don't need the water. A cup of water can certainly improve your form, but it's more efficient to just not use the water to begin with.
@@projectcar1079 but in the show he only used the water when delivering the tofu, then he could dump it and drive how he wished coming back down. So it taught balance but because it wasn’t a constant it wouldn’t necessarily lead to bad habits. It’d be more like going out on a track and doing a lap with it and then one without. You’d learn quickly that you could accelerate faster and brake later/harder without the cup of water but because you just drove the track with the cup of water you’d be more aware of the shifting weight (presumably) than you would had you never driven with it
the drift king himself made a video with hot version/best motoring showing himself spilling water everywhere lmao. the concepts are correct but its still a cartoon.
Y’all ever seen 1988’s License to Drive, staring Corey Haim and Corey Feldman? There’s a scene when he’s taking his driving test in a 1985 Ford Escort and he can’t spill coffee on the instructor played by James Avery, or he fails. Hilarity ensues.
What I think Takumi did was use the water cup on the delivery uphill to practice control, but on the downhill he no longer has any more Tofu so he speeds down at full speed
downhill is too fast for speed. u need to brake more than gas almost edit: what im saying makes no contribution to the conversation and is actually not provable or disproveable as akina downhill actually has many straights and sharp corners. i have driven akina on beamng for 1 month since i wrote this comment.
@@yasuo2g775 going full speed just means he doesn't need to be excessively smooth on his inputs, he can be sudden on the brakes and not risk water spilling unlike on the uphill
@@yasuo2g775 It was only there so Takumi wouldn't break the tofu going uphill where he requires smoothness, Takumi couldn't care less for learning car control because he hated driving and probably threw out the water after deliveries so he could drive home faster
An equally effective visual que of weight balance would be a small weight hanging from a string on the rear view mirror. It would show where the mass of the car was being transferred and not make a mess during training or advanced sudden movements.
Takumi only drive with water cup when delivering tofu uphill and he doesn't drift. He drive as fast as he can avoid water spill. So that he can feel his car better He just drift when he going home downhill after deliver the tofu in order to kill boredom and getting home faster, because he have to goes to school soon. He did that without watercup. But one episode takumi ever said "i started to learn to drift with the water cup"
For me it just really helped when teaching to drive around casually in the city. I sometimes take girls out and don't want to make them feel sketched out. Taught me to take off properly at a red light and stop and make turns smoothly and be much more smooth with upshifting and downshifting, going over speed bumps, and so on. I never really realized how "rough" my driving seemed to passengers, it always seemed smooth from the drivers seat but from the perspective of the water in a cup it helped me realize I needed to become much smoother. So in essence, more for learning the basics of driving especially if you're carrying a date for example. But for racing that's something else.
Nooooo it's. It doesn't matter if u win by an inch or a mile winning is winning or is it when I'm at that red light all I see for the next 10 seconds is that I'm free Hhahaha that's u pleb LMAO I'm fully cracking up right now I jus want u to know that
Great Video and also one of the very few times i saw someone talking about Inital-D and how realistic it is. Its nice to know that the Mangaka actually put thought into the watercup and didnt just added it to make it cool.
I want to add that like you said it helped Takumi understand his car. Also we know the water levels changed as time we on. So Takumi knowing his car so well when there is no water and he is racing he also knows he can do things he wouldn't do if he were trying to keep it from spilling. Also his has a high level of understanding. Where he knows things but he couldn't tell why or what he's doing it for he just knows what works. I. E. A guitarist who never read music and was self taught and plays by ear can create great riffs and solos but can't tell why he's using the chords he's using or even what chords he using sometimes just knows this is what sounds good. For Takumi he knows what he car responds to and doesn't hence him orginally not wanting to modify it or to change the eninge even after it blown because he didn't want to change the way it feels. He's also a prodigy and the son of a prodigy who pushed him.
Takumi only uses the water cup on the uphill delivering the tofu, but on the downhill he has no tofu and doesn't need the water in the cup, so he's being trained being able to balance the car's weight distribution on the uphill but also being allowed to be free of the limitations of the cup on the downhill, for every single run. Bunta was absolutely genius in the way he was teaching Takumi without him even noticing!
You just basically use the water cup for daily driving and remember its fundamentals for racing. Personally, i never drift on the track, but it's 100% useful because I have to work in the morning and my coffee cup never drips.
I think the point that the water is limiting was something Takumi learned in the gumtape death match. There, he realized that it was in fact faster to use sharper steering and throttle inputs.
The water cup could be useful for people when they take the driver's licence. Smooth driving is essential to pass the test. Of course, the water quantity or even the recipient's shape would have to be different. I might be wrong but it's still a nice thought.
The MC did have a bad habit of excess turns, now that I think about it. He may have driven in the mountain pass for 5 years, but his technique was very limited in the beginning of the series. And then, through many races, his bounds were removed bit by bit. He was taught the intuitive aspect of driving first, and everything else followed after. If you ask me, this is the ideal way of teaching or learning anything. It takes time, but the fruit of such labour is most rewarding.
This was awesome! This also reminded me that I need to buy the new versions where Funimation kept the original music but with english dubs. At least when I last heard a while ago.
I'm am very sure it can be a really good training for some to learn car control, obviously there is a few problems like you said, and unfortunately cup of water on streets is rather ridiculous, because roads aren't smooth, especially in UK. On a good track on other hand it's not as bad of an idea.
@@al-dorifto1631 let's just say just after heleaves, he gets out of the car and spills the water on the ground. And when he comes back he fills it again
My 1st car was a 87 chevy caprice and I learned to drift that in about 2weeks behind a warehouse market parking lot. I literally bought a honda civic lxi less than a month later and thought I was going to do the same but nope. Had to learn to drift again (in this type of car)since the civic was almost 1000pounds lighter as well as faster with fuel injection. Same with my vw pasat that had a twin turbo alot faster but heavier than the civic. Drifting is one of the easiest things to do since all it requires is motion memory. The more you do it the easier and more natural it comes. Still, the funniest thing I like to do with new people that ride with me is act like we are hydroplaning or about to crash and really its all fun.
I think the real problem with the glass of water is that it is shown to be less responsive to the car's weight transfer than it is in reality. I imagine it was done with the purpose of making it clear that the car's weight management of takumi is of the highest level
We understand the idea as it relates to the plot but I think anyone who’s actually been on a track could tell you being able to drift or drive fast with a full water cup and not spill is pure fantasy.
I think with the water cup it may limit you unless you remember that it’s fine if it spills out in tiny droplets as it’s showing you that you’re almost at the limit but also don’t fill it up super high
My father was a bus driver for a while, after being a lorry driver. When he was being taught how to drive the bus, the instructor would put his elbow just behind his head, so if he braked too hard, the instructor would hit him in the head. Quite a funny story.
Your reasons are valid but Takami used to water cup for transporting the tofu and didn’t race with it. When he took away the cup to race he had mastered the fundamentals of his cars balance but could really race aggressive. He would 100% have spilled the cup during a race and the point of the cup isn’t to race fast
the watter cup is for the tofu only to help him drive smoothly but he of course didn't go fast when delivering, he went fast when coming back from the hotel he delivered the tofu, he didn't use the cup then
I mean it helped me but you are correct In some of the arguments... i used water cup for nearly 2 years which taught me balance of the car but the thing is it only works on 86 since 86 weight balance is superiour 25% of the weight on each tires and its light weight which is 225kg on each tire which is not a lot anyways back to the topic... knowing balance of your car will make u neither over or under steer and u will teach you maximum speed u can attack a corner so its really helpful but if you are just a beginner i recommend you to not use it Edit: Whats The game? it looked nice so i wanna know it
I'm envisioning an invention... like a ball float on plane instruments... but on your dashboard like a compass. You can see a red line and the water/spirits fluid inside can ride up the edge of the container without making a mess in the car.
It wasn’t really to teach him to be a better driver while yes it can help with that it was mainly for the tofu in the back he was delivering. If he spilled the cup it meant he spilled the water in the trunk and the tofu would be bad.
we have to remember that takuimi managed to drift with cup of water what means he had to learn how to initiate drift with little mass transfer - high speed drift and learn how to transition without excessive forces and thats is unbelievable and why he was able to be so fast is because he learned how to drift at highest possible speeds he used sliding to increase turning radius exactly like with left foot breaking in fwd cars but much more precise there is a point when you start gripping on the exit and thats the point when you can start accelerating but only with perfect balance over the car because car is literally still sliding ITS HARD TO DESCRIBE i doubt that you have experienced that because thats very specific thing and you have to push over the grip limit why do you under steer? because rear wheels push forward when your front tires want to turn so why dont you just change the direction of your rear wheels pushing? that solves the problem of max speed trough the corner and thats the ultimate technique
But we do have to remember, since Takumi had dropped off the tofu after he finished the uphill portion of Mt. Akina, he was free to experiment with going as fast as he could on the downhill. This means he had the discipline of the water cup, and the freedom to test his abilities to the fullest in the same night. That sounds a lot less limiting to me
Fun fact: they actually used this truck on a plane which was about to be crashed because all the electronics failed they used the water cup thing to land the plane safely
Actually it is a good way on first to understand how to be smooth but has soon has you learn to be fast you understand that smooth is not always the fastest way. Look at fernando Alonso in F1 be super agressive in corner entry and it was super fast. Water cup is a good way to learn and as you said very limiting after few hour of practice
Alonso is beast and is an exceptional driver. No one has imitated his style, because he is only one who can do it. Most of the time steering smooth is the best so you use all the grip of the car
smooth is fast. you arent going to get to alonsos level trying to emulate him. drivers like him are extremely adaptable and just have a deeper understanding. and forget about the water cup, its a cartoon.
Actually tried this while daily driving and it’s great because you learn how to smoothly come to a stop and how to accelerate smoothly.but once you get into intensive spirited driving no matter your skill level you will pull more than 0.5G’s spilling your cup :(
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Bunta
The ultimate hydro homie
Can't spill the water if there isn't left.
Meanwhile in Ferrari Garage:
No Kimi, you will not have the drink.
The watercup is a real learning instrument when you learn to drive an ambulance.
Better not damage the --tofu-- patient
@Elliot Leners I bust out laughing once the gravity of what you said set in my mind
My mom is an ambulance driver and I’ve seen her drift it lmao
fujiwara dead body delivery
@@cedricrheaume9185 the smoothest way to kill the patient
Well, I think the only point of the water cup was to learn balance around a corner, but since he had it taken away at a race, he didn't need to worry about spilling so he could go past the limit of the water.
He also doesnt drift when deliver tofu uphill
He just drift after done tofu delivery downhill and takumi already drank the water cup
accel limits
Yeah maybe
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Nobody :
Takumi: *Hold my cup of water*
and the whole stock of tofu in my car
And watch me beating the tofu out of the red suns and night kids
my young mind: I guess he is gonna drink that
lol
I'm thirsty
Stay hydrated!
It's on the tofu make still fine
Sitting there all like
Thanks dad
Beautiful profile pic 😉
Tried this once, water went everywhere because the road was bumpy af
Nice!
Japanese roads are smooth af, lucky takumi
Bro you made my Day that was so funny
I laughed a little to much on that one
You need better suspension
This guy explained a concept that bunta explains on 30s in 7 mins
Yep. That’s the point of the video. To expand on it.
I wanna remind yall, something I DEFINITLY learned from. Smooth doesn't mean slow movements something can be consistent and direct but extremely fast aswell, just depends on how much of that action your car and yourself prefer.
i actually learned a way to get a four wheel drift happen in a game called assetto corsa you can see my newest video if intrested
Coupled with the 86 balance
In other words just become one with the car
@@uphori1484 wait, I know u
@@razorjk5974 how so
How Fujiwara's Ae86 went to Akina ghost is... Takumi want to finish his delivery earlier. So he went faster and faster everyday and return home
Because he want to sleep
And there is the truth.
Yea I just wanted to sleep and I got bored so I would see how close I could get to the guardrail
@@takumifujiwara2674 if you watch Initial D, Takumi isnt really interested into racing in the beginning.. for him, driving fast is just part of family business... after all Bunta never really told Takumi anything while training him into a racer...
if i am in takumi’s pov i would do the same thing… assuming i’m going back home late and all i want is to have more sleep time… for every minute i put more time on the road is every minute i had lesser sleep back at home
i rember watching my dad drive very fast on country roads i remember him being very smooth in corners this vid bassically explains it to me that he is the closest thing to takumi considering hes driven lorries for 20+ years and regular car driving for even longer I want to surpass his level to honour it as cringy as that sounds.
Not closet. I think there are people who drive on mountains with best skills at corners
I want to do the same...
I have a similar respect for my fathers driving who was also a professional driver.
I wish luck for u
god speed brother, pursue your dreams!
Every episode starts with drive safe and follow the road laws
And the episodes do it's parallel 😂
What’s the anime I forgot? And where can I watch?
@@russiancat340 its on funimnation
@@russiancat340 Initial D
I'm pretty sure he had a load/batch of tofu in the back and the cup was a reminder to be smooth and gentle as not to jolt the tofu and break it. The side affect of this, and the fact he'd been driving since he was 14, gave him the ability to be both fast and smooth. He had to deliver the tofu early and be home in time for school.
bunta knew what he was doing
No his dad gave him the cup as to not spill it coz the tofu is in water and if the cup spilled then the water with the tofu would spill that's why
in the anime he mention something about wanting to reach early so he could have more free time or something...
he simply wanted to go fast and the cup was the reminder on how fast he could go. and he mention that he did spill the water lots of times in the beggining
cause he was so scared, but after a while he got over it and drives likes a Angel xD
He started driving since he was 13 because he was already 18 when they discovered he was the one who already did the deliveries. In the anime, Bunta and Takumi said he replaced his dad for 5 years straight.
Like what Bruce Lee once said: _"Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless, like water"_
That martial arts philosophy of his can also be applied with driving theory... damn
The whole purpose of Bunta training Takumi to deliver tofu with a cup of water is for him to learn how to drive smooth, like water
I remember when I was a kid reading the manga. I told my parents about this and they made me do it when learning to drive. Later on I picked up my great grandmother and she told my mom it's more comfortable driving with me than her lmao.
That's actually awesome
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To be fair, Bunta never made Takumi race with a water cup. He only made him use it when he delivers tofu, so basically it had more meaning to protect the tofu and secondary goal was to make him learn the "balance game" which helped him a lot in the development of the story.
bunta: remember son losing is gay so heres this water cup it might teach u how to be a *GOD*
Bunta mastered the art of no homo
in the context of initial d, the water cup training method is perfect because it wasnt 'training' for him *initially*. It was just an intuitive way for him to learn without even knowing he was learning thanks to his racing legend dad. Thats why the show is so genius
Never to fast, never slowdown, no hard braking. Moving like floating.
Float like a butterfly
@@N3onDr1v3 sting like a 2j
@@m8cermit799 dangnu hudson
*remember japan has well maintained roads with nearly 0% potholes, so smooth transitioning is possible but in Rally racing this method goes out the window* 😂
They address this in the show when he travels to another mountain pass. The same stuff applies, you just have to adjust for the holes and bumps
@@suspicioustumbleweed4760 are you joking? You don’t adjust for potholes
@@Jhelil Yeah there’s a few episodes where the roads are bumpier and potholed and Takumi has to learn to adjust to it. But I mean the OPs point was that off-road your water spills either way so idk what the point off my comment was.
The thing about the Takumi with the cup of water, it enhances his sensitivity to the weight distribution of the car, so he can feel more about his car nuances to a fine detail which allows him to drive at his car's limit during racing.
Also about the hard threshold braking, it was noted during the final battle of AE86 vs AE86 in Stage 5 that Takumi didn't have treshold braking as his weapon until Stage 4 when he noticed that Shinji was braking loosely in the corners. This backs up the point made in the video that you can't learn threshold braking with the water cup because Takumi was limited by it.
he needs it because without drinking it he’s not gonna be a drift god.
Holy water
The car be like : you still hate an fr car like me?
@@itznoahkunz8039 w h a t
@@mateuszpaluch344 drift power water
That's what plebs like u wish was the meaning jus so u can make it easy on yourself to do Hhahaha lol
Me: Aight, time to put water on the cup.
My mom's Hyundai eon: Don't think about it.
Better not spill water on the interior while driving at 120+ kilometers per hour
Ah, so you are still alive:)
Yup, I'm not dead yet!
@@projectcar1079 key word, yet
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He was prob just watching all of the TEN STAGES of initial d lol
Omg my grandfather made me do this when he taught me to drive! Mind you I learned on stick. Damn it made me learn fast lol!
Did you learn to drift without spilling the water?
You say it does more harm than good but if you use the skills you learned as a base line and adapt it could work well. For ecample as you said it helps in the understanding of weight transfer. But then you learn the point in which your car is over/under steering. If used simply as a base line to develop further skills and so on it could be very beneficial.
However, as you learn about weight transfer you are subconsciously developing those inhibiting habits. If you wanted to understand weight transfer you can just think critically about how the car behaves differently under acceleration and braking, so you really don't need the water. A cup of water can certainly improve your form, but it's more efficient to just not use the water to begin with.
@@projectcar1079 but still it can be efficient
@@Reinhard_Erlik When you're delivering Tofu
@@tuahsakato17 yes
@@projectcar1079 but in the show he only used the water when delivering the tofu, then he could dump it and drive how he wished coming back down. So it taught balance but because it wasn’t a constant it wouldn’t necessarily lead to bad habits. It’d be more like going out on a track and doing a lap with it and then one without. You’d learn quickly that you could accelerate faster and brake later/harder without the cup of water but because you just drove the track with the cup of water you’d be more aware of the shifting weight (presumably) than you would had you never driven with it
The Drift king himself helped making this series. So it's not surprising that it's so well made when it comes to driving techniques 😃
the drift king himself made a video with hot version/best motoring showing himself spilling water everywhere lmao. the concepts are correct but its still a cartoon.
Who is this drift king lol
@@ericwilliamson263 He also did this tape challange hehee😁 He and his mates are so funny!😆
@@LivingForGodNMW Keiichi Tsuchiya 🙂
@@ericwilliamson263 yep,
Bruce Lee: " Be Water My Friend "
If I remember correctly, Takumi learned aggressive driving during his race with Shingo, but I could be wrong
Just saw the episode and takumi improved himself in that race using the one handed race method
Water cup is good for practicing smoothness but now for setting lap times
Y’all ever seen 1988’s License to Drive, staring Corey Haim and Corey Feldman? There’s a scene when he’s taking his driving test in a 1985 Ford Escort and he can’t spill coffee on the instructor played by James Avery, or he fails. Hilarity ensues.
What I think Takumi did was use the water cup on the delivery uphill to practice control, but on the downhill he no longer has any more Tofu so he speeds down at full speed
downhill is too fast for speed. u need to brake more than gas almost
edit: what im saying makes no contribution to the conversation and is actually not provable or disproveable as akina downhill actually has many straights and sharp corners. i have driven akina on beamng for 1 month since i wrote this comment.
@@yasuo2g775 going full speed just means he doesn't need to be excessively smooth on his inputs, he can be sudden on the brakes and not risk water spilling unlike on the uphill
@@RC-8UNTA but the water cup was there to teach smooth control of the cars suspension, so why shouldnt it always matter?
@@yasuo2g775 It was only there so Takumi wouldn't break the tofu going uphill where he requires smoothness, Takumi couldn't care less for learning car control because he hated driving and probably threw out the water after deliveries so he could drive home faster
And that's why my driving teacher was drinking coffee on the first day
Funny he mentions the cup of water, then shows us a clip of a porsche that has no cupholders.
An equally effective visual que of weight balance would be a small weight hanging from a string on the rear view mirror. It would show where the mass of the car was being transferred and not make a mess during training or advanced sudden movements.
Good idea
Others:going to drifting school
Fujiwara:Water cup
I always wanted to see takumi driving an fd
Takumi be like: I rather drive the Impreza
Keisuke in an 86: It's so slow!!!
@@j-aaxch9658 yeah that impreza gc8 made me fall in love with subaru! Especially the wrx sti version v!
@@phalxmusic5836 Best Subie Along with the 22B
Change my mind
@@j-aaxch9658 you don't like the blob eye?
@@phalxmusic5836 only the GD8 of them
Takumi only drive with water cup when delivering tofu uphill and he doesn't drift. He drive as fast as he can avoid water spill. So that he can feel his car better
He just drift when he going home downhill after deliver the tofu in order to kill boredom and getting home faster, because he have to goes to school soon. He did that without watercup. But one episode takumi ever said "i started to learn to drift with the water cup"
^this
For me it just really helped when teaching to drive around casually in the city.
I sometimes take girls out and don't want to make them feel sketched out. Taught me to take off properly at a red light and stop and make turns smoothly and be much more smooth with upshifting and downshifting, going over speed bumps, and so on. I never really realized how "rough" my driving seemed to passengers, it always seemed smooth from the drivers seat but from the perspective of the water in a cup it helped me realize I needed to become much smoother.
So in essence, more for learning the basics of driving especially if you're carrying a date for example.
But for racing that's something else.
Don't forget the most important thing in fast and furious
Family 😂
Nooooo it's. It doesn't matter if u win by an inch or a mile winning is winning or is it when I'm at that red light all I see for the next 10 seconds is that I'm free Hhahaha that's u pleb LMAO I'm fully cracking up right now I jus want u to know that
Great Video and also one of the very few times i saw someone talking about Inital-D and how realistic it is. Its nice to know that the Mangaka actually put thought into the watercup and didnt just added it to make it cool.
I want to add that like you said it helped Takumi understand his car. Also we know the water levels changed as time we on. So Takumi knowing his car so well when there is no water and he is racing he also knows he can do things he wouldn't do if he were trying to keep it from spilling. Also his has a high level of understanding. Where he knows things but he couldn't tell why or what he's doing it for he just knows what works. I. E. A guitarist who never read music and was self taught and plays by ear can create great riffs and solos but can't tell why he's using the chords he's using or even what chords he using sometimes just knows this is what sounds good. For Takumi he knows what he car responds to and doesn't hence him orginally not wanting to modify it or to change the eninge even after it blown because he didn't want to change the way it feels. He's also a prodigy and the son of a prodigy who pushed him.
Hey this is my first watch on your channel and I wish you can make a video about improving your driving skills as a street driver
Used this method to teach myself smooth clutching and hill starts when I learned standard when 16
Takumi only uses the water cup on the uphill delivering the tofu, but on the downhill he has no tofu and doesn't need the water in the cup, so he's being trained being able to balance the car's weight distribution on the uphill but also being allowed to be free of the limitations of the cup on the downhill, for every single run. Bunta was absolutely genius in the way he was teaching Takumi without him even noticing!
I legit watched all of initial d as a kid and just now figured out this is probably why I always have a glass of water in my cup holder.
You just basically use the water cup for daily driving and remember its fundamentals for racing. Personally, i never drift on the track, but it's 100% useful because I have to work in the morning and my coffee cup never drips.
My mature mind: so Fast and Furious Saga got the inspiration from Initial D? Pretty much🤔
The fact is, I saw Initial D months before watching for the first time Fast & Furious
Nah
Fast and furious: uses nitrous 10 times in a row
Initial D: uses actually strategy
also just listening to this guy talk, i'd love to race any time, pick the track and cars.
real life, forza motorsport 7 or asetto. - Drift school instructor here.
I think the point that the water is limiting was something Takumi learned in the gumtape death match. There, he realized that it was in fact faster to use sharper steering and throttle inputs.
The water cup could be useful for people when they take the driver's licence. Smooth driving is essential to pass the test.
Of course, the water quantity or even the recipient's shape would have to be different.
I might be wrong but it's still a nice thought.
The MC did have a bad habit of excess turns, now that I think about it.
He may have driven in the mountain pass for 5 years, but his technique was very limited in the beginning of the series.
And then, through many races, his bounds were removed bit by bit. He was taught the intuitive aspect of driving first, and everything else followed after.
If you ask me, this is the ideal way of teaching or learning anything. It takes time, but the fruit of such labour is most rewarding.
This was awesome! This also reminded me that I need to buy the new versions where Funimation kept the original music but with english dubs. At least when I last heard a while ago.
I'm am very sure it can be a really good training for some to learn car control, obviously there is a few problems like you said, and unfortunately cup of water on streets is rather ridiculous, because roads aren't smooth, especially in UK. On a good track on other hand it's not as bad of an idea.
great video, wouldnt a G-meter by a far better method for training
Yup, a g-meter would be a better tool than a cup of water that's for sure.
@The Movie Man g meter is like 30 bucks
@@danielwolfe4169 But water is FREE tho.
@@danielwolfe4169 was it 30 bucks 25 years ago when the series was conceived?
No because using a water cup is much tougher
If I was 12 yo takumi I woulda been filling that cup back up before I got back to bunta lol
He probably did but got found out because the carpet was wet.
@@nottobay6768 you use your brain more than me lol I didn't even think of that lol
@@al-dorifto1631 let's just say just after heleaves, he gets out of the car and spills the water on the ground. And when he comes back he fills it again
I accidently did this with a closed lid soda cup on the floorboard of my passenger seat. It teaches smooth movement
"Remember Me" is my favourite initial D song.
the lesson i got from initial d is just 1 thing. and that is stay calm and control ur car smoothly..
My 1st car was a 87 chevy caprice and I learned to drift that in about 2weeks behind a warehouse market parking lot. I literally bought a honda civic lxi less than a month later and thought I was going to do the same but nope. Had to learn to drift again (in this type of car)since the civic was almost 1000pounds lighter as well as faster with fuel injection. Same with my vw pasat that had a twin turbo alot faster but heavier than the civic. Drifting is one of the easiest things to do since all it requires is motion memory. The more you do it the easier and more natural it comes. Still, the funniest thing I like to do with new people that ride with me is act like we are hydroplaning or about to crash and really its all fun.
Forget my confusion but arent both civic and passat FWD? How are you drifting them?
this is why Bunta doesnt give him a water cup the first time he goes to race he just tells him to go as fast as he can.
Bunta: Don’t damage the dru- I mean tofu
Takumi: what’d u say?
I think the real problem with the glass of water is that it is shown to be less responsive to the car's weight transfer than it is in reality. I imagine it was done with the purpose of making it clear that the car's weight management of takumi is of the highest level
I put a cup of water on my sim rig when I do the downhill of Akina
Never spill a drop...
me just doing this by accident because i didnt have any cups with lids
Ferris Buelers day off this old movie shows the same technique with the driving school instructor and his coffee
We understand the idea as it relates to the plot but I think anyone who’s actually been on a track could tell you being able to drift or drive fast with a full water cup and not spill is pure fantasy.
Argentina: *water Spills because every road is full or holes and a great percentage are just dirt roads *
Huh that's why my taxi driver looks at his cup of beer in his cup holder while driving fast in the city nights
The water is only a limit indicator for delivering tofu. And when he returned without any tofu. That's the practice time.
The fast and the furious saga taught me how to rob a police vault and drive backwards in Cuba
Bunta placed a cup of water in the cupholder of the car, so that Takumi could make sure he didn't break any of the tofu,
Thank god for this video my tiny fucking mind has been trying to figure this out for DECADES...
ran into the back of a car trying to not spill the water
I didn't know a paper cup could work at the Takaoka plant to produce an ae86!
I think with the water cup it may limit you unless you remember that it’s fine if it spills out in tiny droplets as it’s showing you that you’re almost at the limit but also don’t fill it up super high
its a challenge takumi is making the water cup not fall
So underrated im glad i got this in my reccomendations
I’d kill for a initial d game on the quest 2
My father was a bus driver for a while, after being a lorry driver. When he was being taught how to drive the bus, the instructor would put his elbow just behind his head, so if he braked too hard, the instructor would hit him in the head. Quite a funny story.
Your reasons are valid but Takami used to water cup for transporting the tofu and didn’t race with it. When he took away the cup to race he had mastered the fundamentals of his cars balance but could really race aggressive. He would 100% have spilled the cup during a race and the point of the cup isn’t to race fast
Thats why takumi felt unleashed in his first battle with fd😂
the watter cup is for the tofu only to help him drive smoothly but he of course didn't go fast when delivering, he went fast when coming back from the hotel he delivered the tofu, he didn't use the cup then
Antagonists: Write that down! Write that down!
Cruise ship Captains do this out of tradition
So the secret to not spill the cup of water is to drink it... Gotcha
I mean it helped me but you are correct
In some of the arguments... i used water cup for nearly 2 years which taught me balance of the car but the thing is it only works on 86 since 86 weight balance is superiour 25% of the weight on each tires and its light weight which is 225kg on each tire which is not a lot anyways back to the topic... knowing balance of your car will make u neither over or under steer and u will teach you maximum speed u can attack a corner so its really helpful but if you are just a beginner i recommend you to not use it
Edit: Whats The game? it looked nice so i wanna know it
Wait, so basically. The cup of water is a G-meter essentially, it indicates to you where the weight of the car is shifting towards.
I'm envisioning an invention... like a ball float on plane instruments... but on your dashboard like a compass.
You can see a red line and the water/spirits fluid inside can ride up the edge of the container without making a mess in the car.
i gonna practice with a water cup wen i grow up !
It wasn’t really to teach him to be a better driver while yes it can help with that it was mainly for the tofu in the back he was delivering. If he spilled the cup it meant he spilled the water in the trunk and the tofu would be bad.
we have to remember that takuimi managed to drift with cup of water
what means he had to learn how to initiate drift with little mass transfer - high speed drift
and learn how to transition without excessive forces
and thats is unbelievable
and why he was able to be so fast is
because he learned how to drift at highest possible speeds
he used sliding to increase turning radius
exactly like with left foot breaking in fwd cars but much more precise
there is a point when you start gripping on the exit and thats the point when you can start accelerating but only with perfect balance over the car because car is literally still sliding
ITS HARD TO DESCRIBE
i doubt that you have experienced that because thats very specific thing and you have to push over the grip limit
why do you under steer? because rear wheels push forward when your front tires want to turn
so why dont you just change the direction of your rear wheels pushing?
that solves the problem of max speed trough the corner
and thats the ultimate technique
I used this technique to learn how to drive stick shift smoother
But we do have to remember, since Takumi had dropped off the tofu after he finished the uphill portion of Mt. Akina, he was free to experiment with going as fast as he could on the downhill. This means he had the discipline of the water cup, and the freedom to test his abilities to the fullest in the same night. That sounds a lot less limiting to me
you said you shouldnt learn on a narrow mountain pass but that is all I have
Fun fact: they actually used this truck on a plane which was about to be crashed because all the electronics failed they used the water cup thing to land the plane safely
2:50
Project car: keeping ur cargo safe
Me : car go road fast
Car no go safe
Remember your delivering a water cup
Nice video !
Can you do a video about one hand racing ?
Actually it is a good way on first to understand how to be smooth but has soon has you learn to be fast you understand that smooth is not always the fastest way. Look at fernando Alonso in F1 be super agressive in corner entry and it was super fast. Water cup is a good way to learn and as you said very limiting after few hour of practice
Alonso is beast and is an exceptional driver. No one has imitated his style, because he is only one who can do it. Most of the time steering smooth is the best so you use all the grip of the car
smooth is fast. you arent going to get to alonsos level trying to emulate him. drivers like him are extremely adaptable and just have a deeper understanding. and forget about the water cup, its a cartoon.
Actually tried this while daily driving and it’s great because you learn how to smoothly come to a stop and how to accelerate smoothly.but once you get into intensive spirited driving no matter your skill level you will pull more than 0.5G’s spilling your cup :(