How I Would Learn Japanese (If I Could Start Over)

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  • I started learning Japanese 10 years ago. If I could start over though, THIS is how I would start learning Japanese. I think I could learn it fast and efficiently while having MORE FUN than I did originally.
    Hopefully, you can find it helpful in your journey to learn Japanese!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:20 Day 1: Kana and Books I'd Pick Up
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    1:59 Beginner Stage: Vocabulary
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    4:42: Beginner Stage: Reading and Listening
    5:04 Our Course
    5:32 Post Study Phase

Комментарии • 838

  • @ToKiniAndy
    @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +321

    I now have my own kanji series here on RUclips!
    I'd recommend THIS (amzn.to/3AI21t7 ) game INSTEAD of 漢検トレーニング2 for Kanji now. I didn't have it when I filmed this video, but it's DEFINITELY better.

    • @callmejobson
      @callmejobson Год назад +5

      Its just hard to get that 250万人の漢検プレミアム outside of Japan. Would you still recommend the 漢検トレーニング2 in the mean time?

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +5

      @@callmejobson I wonder how many of the used versions can be shipped to the USA from Japan. I know it’s definitely possible to order from Japan in the USA, but not positive about used stuff.
      In the mean time, yes, 漢検トレーニング2 was a good time. =)

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +4

      Sorry spaceace1288, I'm not sure what you mean?

    • @majibento
      @majibento Год назад

      Does that game work on NA 3DSs or do I need to buy a JP 3DS?

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +11

      @@majibento Regular DS games will work on any 3ds! ☺️ Only 3ds games are region locked.

  • @battenburg6089
    @battenburg6089 Год назад +2097

    I started learning about a year ago, and haven't made much progress simply because it is very difficult to learn one language when you're surrounded by another. My girlfriend (who happens to be Japanese) also has this issue, she speaks great English, but it overwhelms her on occasions. She does communicate with me in Japanese, and I can more-or-less understand her, which personally I think is strange, as when she messages me in Japanese, I usually have to translate certain words. I'm on a very slow roll, but some of the options presented today may help me slide back into the learning process.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +311

      Isn't it super interesting how you can understand things when you hear them, but it's harder when you read? I think having the context of bodily gestures, eye contact, and natural rhythm of speaking helps. Reading is always going to be slower when learning so that makes it more difficult. But you'll get there!
      I hope some of these ideas can help!

    • @battenburg6089
      @battenburg6089 Год назад +121

      @@ToKiniAndy It certainly is strange. Once, she showed me a video of her dad speaking, they are from Osaka, and her dad speaks in a very heavy Kansai dialect. She asked me what he was saying after, and on a whim I said "he's talking about flavours?"
      And I was right, he was discussing the taste of beer and why he didn't like it. I barely understood a word, yet I somehow was correct in guessing the context!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +26

      ?

    • @battenburg6089
      @battenburg6089 Год назад +16

      @spaceace1288時間_日本語学生 ?

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +86

      That's actually quite a common problem Chris. I definitely hear you, as in the beginning I was the same.
      The trick is surprisingly counter-intuitive. Instead of trying to catch each word or piece of grammar, the trick is actually to physically try to relax, and sort of catch the overall idea. It sounds silly, but this works really really well. You probably won't pick up a TON of new words this way, but you WILL actually be able to have a conversation more comfortably.
      If you notice there was something you didn't understand, you just ignore it, and see if you can pick up the overall idea around it. If, after listening to everything being said to you, you think that that single word has tripped you up, asking someone to repeat themselves, or asking what X means will get you there the rest of the time. =)
      It takes a while to get used to accepting that you're not going to understand every word, but it's worth struggling through that!

  • @ikiyou_
    @ikiyou_ Год назад +945

    “I’m gonna learn Japanese!”
    “I have to learn how to learn Japanese!”
    “I have to learn how to learn a language!”
    “I have to learn how to look for language learning resources!”
    “so… when do I start?”

    • @nihonmaster3147
      @nihonmaster3147 Год назад +77

      You just keep studying, hit walls, improve as you go and eventually you will find out what is a waste of time and what isn't for you. That's it. Good luck!

    • @MarkyNomad
      @MarkyNomad Год назад +60

      Instead of thinking about learning a language you should just do it! Do you think a baby worries about these things when they first start using their mother tongue? No! They just try and fail, take small steps every day and after some months both you and the baby will be able to create basic sentences.
      I never really advise people to use language apps like Duolingo or Babbel, but it's better than nothing, so at least invest 15 minutes a day into that and after a while you'll start to notice how much progress you've made.

    • @Perrirodan1
      @Perrirodan1 Год назад +6

      Pick a good method and stick with.
      You need to get a foundation of the vocab and the kanji.
      For my part I use the Anki flashcard deck made from Japanese core 2k and I removed all the individual words and only kept the phrases.
      Phrases are easier to learn and give you context with words.
      2k words is equivalent to B1 in a European language. It's a solid foundation that allows you to get into native content, then it's just a question of making flashcards with unknown words or just checking the dictionary when you don't get something.
      When you reach around 5k vocab words you know enough to consistently learn from context, at this point studying becomes just an option to speed things up or to polish your skills

    • @retrohipster1060
      @retrohipster1060 Год назад +3

      Your struggle speaks to me. lol I've tried to learn japanese several times and I'm just now starting to feel like I understand how to learn and how to use the tools I have to achieve some results. ^^;; I'm also learning to not push myself to the point where I stop absorbing.. I honestly feel like that point hit's faster than it does for most people, but if I learn 10 words a day using anki, 5 days a week even, that's thousands of vocab words in a year.. so that's what I'm doing. It FEELS slow, but I'm steadily learning more and more.
      But yes, I empathize with the massive amount of time spent just figuring out how to start/learn. One skill I need more work on is figuring out how to change what I'm doing without feeling like I'm starting over in some way. lol

    • @GothicGame
      @GothicGame Год назад

      @Marky on the Go: what would you recommended then for the start learning basics?

  • @nearsightedtanuki
    @nearsightedtanuki Год назад +59

    Been learning it for 2 years now, and the best i can do is memorize common kanji (ex 行 ), write in fluent hiragana/katakana, and understand very very simple phrases. Its been difficult but also fun! Tofugo has been SO helpful for me

    • @poxalmazro3e734
      @poxalmazro3e734 11 месяцев назад +2

      same honestly, I blame it on my lack of consistency and actual method of learning.

  • @sierra2192
    @sierra2192 Год назад +366

    Im nearing the end of Genki 2 and can say that playing games and reading definitely improves your Japanese!! Seeing Japanese in context is just way more beneficial then drilling grammar. I do need waaaay more listening/speaking practice though which is the hard part so Im trying to listen more and write more so I can actually easily speak sentences. Sometimes I still struggle to get words out for basic sentences haha

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +25

      Finding games with voice acting, and reading along with the audiobook are great ways to improve listening while doing what you’re already doing! =)
      But yeah, it definitely takes time!

    • @Alexander-vl1lg
      @Alexander-vl1lg 2 месяца назад

      Try 二ノ国 If you have finished Genki 2 .

    • @user-np9dv2yi2k
      @user-np9dv2yi2k Месяц назад

      Ghost of Tsushima as a Japanese voice acting from the actors​@@ToKiniAndy

  • @CaptainWumbo
    @CaptainWumbo Год назад +193

    The kanji are pretty time consuming but very important to building vocabulary, since so much of Japanese is compound kanji from their Chinese readings. And you feel kinda stupid when you can't read words you know.
    Otherwise it just takes time and consistent interest. The kanji are really what make people learn on again off again over years and years, and without a scheduling program to help you review them gradually over an extended period of time, hard to just chip away at. Otherwise I think more people would succeed, given their strong interest.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +24

      Yeah, kanji is definitely a challenge unique to Japanese and Chinese. I can completely understand the difficulty.
      Speaking of scheduling, I completely forgot to mention combining RTK with Anki or some kind of SRS in this video. I better add that to the pinned comment! Thanks for reminding me (even if you’re talking about scheduling your time, hehe).

    • @ieatpaper
      @ieatpaper Год назад

      CaptainWumbo? From iFunny? On a random Japanese video? ありえない…

  • @hijeffhere
    @hijeffhere Год назад +73

    I agree with these tips!
    One thing I want to emphasize is shadowing! My goal in learning Japanese was to be able to read and listen so I didn't really much pay attention to speaking.
    But if I were to start again, I definitely would, because right now, after two years of learning, I began to appreciate how speaking dramatically improves reading and listening.
    So yeah, speak speak speak, rinse and repeat. Your Japanese brain will thank you. Don't make the same mistakes like I did.

    • @18AnonyMouse
      @18AnonyMouse 6 месяцев назад

      Where would you suggest to learn Japanese? I've been trying Duolingo and Busuu but the only other alternative I can think of is to just google phrases I want to know, but google translate is often wrong

    • @TheGhost-mf1rb
      @TheGhost-mf1rb 3 месяца назад

      Do U still need suggestions on Japanese learning
      I can give u some idea that will help U grasping the whole thing.
      First suggestion would be follow this guy and search playlist videos of this guy
      If U need
      Reply

  • @nickh2053
    @nickh2053 Год назад +36

    Been self studying for 2.5 years. I definitely have weak points because I’ve often switched my method/materials to keep myself engaged. Trust the process. I’m still years away from my desired level.

  • @Linkin-2603
    @Linkin-2603 Год назад +6

    Really lulled me in with that Made in Abyss in the thumbnail

  • @nelsoncho
    @nelsoncho 11 месяцев назад +420

    Tips to learn Japanese more efficiently:
    - Do NOT attempt to learn more than one language at once. If in doubt, learn the one that you're most interested in.
    - Repeat every letter/word/sentence out loud to get a closer pronunciation (tip from Teuida).
    - Avoid trying to learn everything at one sitting to prevent yourself from forgetting words.
    - Try to memorize kana/kanji stroke order for more efficient writing.
    - If you feel unmotivated and/or tired, take a break and proceed your learning after a while and remember: you can do it!
    - Watch anime and practice singing in Japanese. They will help you to increase your vocabulary.
    - Try not to skip the difficult parts of learning. They may be essential.
    - Get yourself a partner conversation or use Teuida!
    - Use your Japanese knowledge in daily occasions (Example: whenever you're going upstairs, count every step in Japanese).
    - After finishing your studying session, write out everything you have learned so far, physically (pencil and paper) or virtually (note pad app on phone/computer)
    - Keep watching this video as many times as possible for days or weeks. It is not possible to learn everything in a few moments.
    Now, I wish you, the reader, a very happy learning, do not give up and give it your all! がんばってください! 💪✌️

    • @fluttzkrieg4392
      @fluttzkrieg4392 10 месяцев назад +5

      In my opinion, do we really need to learn things like stroke order nowadays? Unless you're going to work at a Japanese company that requires you to write things with pen and paper, computers and phones will do the job as long as you can read the kanji.

    • @nelsoncho675
      @nelsoncho675 10 месяцев назад +1

      Teuida!!!!!! YES

    • @cheesejkliop
      @cheesejkliop 10 месяцев назад +14

      Learning stroke order is natural, we learn it in English too. However you end up writing will develop as a byproduct of that plus your natural style. I find it good to learn at least. I suppose if you plan to never handwrite anything then it won't matter sure.

    • @Termenz1
      @Termenz1 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@fluttzkrieg4392 it's not that hard to learn as it is systemized, but if you still don't feel like learning that, it's okay. It really depends on your reasons and goals for learning Japanese, you might as well never need it

    • @koquao
      @koquao 9 месяцев назад

      Idk what to do bcs I’m currently attending an after school club that teaches Korean and I’ve already attended it for a year and I’ve gotten many certificates etc however I’m moving as an exchange to japan next year so I’m not sure what to do because I can’t cancel my exchange and I can’t leave the club

  • @Tedisdeaad
    @Tedisdeaad Год назад +19

    Respect for not underestimating what you did do as a beginner. Many people say they would have just skipped RTK because, imo, they don't know how badly off they'd be without it.

  • @Nilremh
    @Nilremh Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for this information and all the work you put in. Have a great 2023!

  • @katsuyaki7605
    @katsuyaki7605 Год назад +2

    Thanks for this. I'm about to start learning Japanese myself, and I appreciate anything helpful like this.

  • @armandovillamizar9052
    @armandovillamizar9052 Год назад +3

    Thank you so much!
    I’m definitely incorporating the shadowing practice.
    Also I didn’t know about the other books except for GENKI 1 and 2. I’m going to look them up!
    Thank you for the video!

  • @FC-EXTRA.
    @FC-EXTRA. Год назад +2

    Thanks for this video is helped me a lot. I only started studying Japanese at the end of last year and haven't made much progress, but after watching your video I felt like I might be able to get a bit further, more quickly.

  • @ToryTyler
    @ToryTyler Год назад +115

    Hey Andy, loving the direction you're taking the channel. Your early Genki guides helped me start my journey a year back, glad you're still making content!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +11

      Thank you phak! Lots more to come! I hope that the new stuff can help as well. =)

  • @akira_asahi
    @akira_asahi Год назад

    Thank you for the video. I am grateful for your time and contribution. Kind regards, Akira.

  • @CursedKeyblade1
    @CursedKeyblade1 Год назад +37

    I would like to throw in the idea of the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course. The book uses mneomics and radicals, but it also gives you vocab. Each kanji has about 2 vocab words that have an O so you know which one is one of the more important ones to learn. RTK teaches you basically meanings and recognition, but you literally gain no vocab. The KKLC though is supported with the fantastic kanji study app and it has all the graded reading sets in one convenient place.
    Not only that, but learning about 5 kanji a day will be tremendously helpful so long as you can keep up with it.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      I know a lot of people really enjoy KKLC. It’s personally not my style, but I agree that it will be great for some people! =)

  • @jeremyfox7599
    @jeremyfox7599 Год назад

    Superb recommendations. Thank you!

  • @remo_9485
    @remo_9485 Год назад +1

    Thanks this video helped me a lot!

  • @sroura546
    @sroura546 Год назад +5

    I bought Remebering the Kanji 1 and 2 this last month and i'm blasting through kanjis. Enjoyed a lot the way this book gives you directives on how to learn them as a foreigner. Seeing how i have seen recommended the other books from this videos in several other videos i will also get them. Just subscribed too!

  • @chaphisyt
    @chaphisyt Год назад +8

    This is my third time trying to learn hirigana. Tofugu has absolutely changed the game and I'm more comfortable now with it then I've ever been. Thank you so much!

  • @labla8940
    @labla8940 Год назад

    GREAT VIDEO! There's the good content, which I appreciate.

  • @haileymaurer122
    @haileymaurer122 Год назад +9

    The Organic Japanese youtube channel is absolutely mindblowing - I've been studying for five years and the textbooks did not tell us these logical tips to "conjugations". Great suggestions. Subscribed for more great resources!

  • @Llourn
    @Llourn Год назад +36

    Another awesome video! While I'm not looking to start over, I'm pretty early in my Japanese learning journey so it's good to hear what you would have changed if you were to start from the beginning. :)

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +2

      Thank you Llourn! I'm glad to hear it's interesting for you even though your a little ways into learning Japanese! =)

  • @Maceykatie
    @Maceykatie Год назад +41

    This is so helpful! I've just started Genki 2 and I feel like I'm constantly changing up my study routine, I only recently started doing graded listening practice and its been a game changer for me. It's so hard to find effective ways of studying when you're a beginner. I did find a really good app for ipad called Kanji!. It teaches you the stroke order so you drill each kanji by writing it out correctly, and it includes words that contain the kanji you have learned so far. Would definitely recommend it :)

    • @griffvideoman
      @griffvideoman Год назад +4

      What a coincidence! I also use that kanji app as well. It is really helpful. I think the app is a great replacement for the Kanji 3ds game that he talked about in the video.

  • @DRTYDANTV
    @DRTYDANTV 13 дней назад

    nah youre the goat. this is every bit of information i was looking for. Thank You 👑

  • @lij9133
    @lij9133 Год назад

    Thank you for the advice Andy! I've been enjoying your content for about a year and a half now and your content has helped me so much on my Japanese learning journey!! Tank you so much!!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      I'm so happy to hear that the content here has helped! Thank you for watching! =)

  • @uniresearch101
    @uniresearch101 Год назад

    This video is fantastic thank you -found it from Ritchi recommending - I'd never heard of Language Reactor extension and it is blowing my MIND! Thank you!

  • @humanbean3
    @humanbean3 Год назад +16

    It's interesting to see how different everyone approaches Japanese learning. Your Yomichan+Anki guide was the golden ticket for me a while back! Thanks for that ^^

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +2

      Yomichan+Anki is a beast. =)

  • @irrelevanthero7410
    @irrelevanthero7410 Год назад +3

    I've been using Santori Reader for quite awhile now and it's been fantastic. All of the stories are written in a way that supplements their Japanese teaching apps Human Japanese, and Human Japanese Intermediate. These gave me an amazing base understanding of the Japanese language. Great recommendations, cheers!

  • @kurootsuki3326
    @kurootsuki3326 Год назад +1

    such a great resource

  • @gabrielalixsander6920
    @gabrielalixsander6920 4 месяца назад

    Thks for the recommendations 🤝🇯🇵

  • @p1ngu_
    @p1ngu_ Год назад +3

    This showed up on my recommendation. I feel like my phone heard me TT. I told my mother that I'm gonna enroll to some free japanese lesson in my country. Thank you so much for this! I'm now much motivated and know where to start.

  • @revywild
    @revywild Год назад +1

    Awesome stuff

  • @RazorL1ly
    @RazorL1ly Год назад +8

    I see, I shall now start using duolingo

  • @connerpoulsen446
    @connerpoulsen446 Год назад +8

    I won’t be able to take full advantage of everything you laid out here but I’m really thankful for thIs video! I got my mission call three weeks ago and I’m going to tokyo next month so not a lot of time to familiarize myself with the language before I go to the mtc, but this has given me an idea of what I could/should be doing! Thanks again!

    • @PrincessSunshine17
      @PrincessSunshine17 Год назад

      Congratulations on your call! I served my mission In Sapporo, Japan in 2015. It was a wonderful experience and the people are so wonderful. One thing I wished I’d known before was how little “non gospel” vocabulary would be emphasized in the MTC, so by the time I got to Japan it was very difficult being able to build relationships for a while with the people since I couldn’t speak about every topics yet. So if you have a bit more time before you leave, I recommend learning some everyday vocabulary so you don’t feel like you’re completely drowning when you first arrive in Japan. But even if you don’t, it’ll all come eventually through hard work, immersion, and the spirit. Good luck on your mission! I hope it’s a wonderful experience. I’m sure you’ll be an amazing missionary. :)

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 Год назад

    Thanks a million! I just started learning Japanese, since I will visit Japan in about 1½ year from now. This was great!

  • @Hashimoto_Akira
    @Hashimoto_Akira Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      You're welcome! I hope you find it interesting!

  • @mumu32
    @mumu32 2 месяца назад

    I wish i had this when I started! Great video.

  • @h42cal31
    @h42cal31 Год назад

    Great suggestions! Thanks Andy!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      Thank you h42cal! I’m glad to hear you think so. =)

  • @XxHunterlovexX
    @XxHunterlovexX Год назад +2

    I appreciate the videos coming out! Your video games, manga, and this one are solid gold!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      Thank you! I'm glad to hear you are enjoying them! ☺️

  • @imSUPERcereal0
    @imSUPERcereal0 Год назад +1

    This shadowing technique you speak of is what I’ve been trying to do, and it’s so hard at first. I was trying to learn a sentence from one of your other videos, and at first I had to rewind and slow down the video a lot. I would also get certain sounds wrong. Once I tried to listen and speak at the same time it was even harder. But after spending an afternoon practice while I did my chores, I was able to follow what you said while listening. Still hard

  • @Pokeater
    @Pokeater 11 месяцев назад

    thank you so much for this, I took to studying Hiragana last week, just so I can play blue protocol which is region locked in Japan until next year. the guides on youtube helped me understand some of the characters to where I can make out full sentences without having to look up a dictionary or photo translator. but I am glad you reccomended the tofugu book, as I feel I would be able to understand it.

  • @GodChaserzCinema
    @GodChaserzCinema Год назад

    Such a great video

  • @lukefrohling
    @lukefrohling Год назад

    This is great !!

  • @keegan2crow
    @keegan2crow Год назад +3

    I just learned some of the greetings in Japanese and it was so satisfying, and surprisingly I’m having so much fun learning Japanese especially with my learning disability

  • @user-ec2rc3lr7v
    @user-ec2rc3lr7v Год назад

    Moving the goal post was a comforting factoid. ありがとうございました。

  • @justplayinnn
    @justplayinnn Год назад

    It worked love you!

  • @KeiVC
    @KeiVC Год назад +26

    It's been almost 2 years since I personally started learning Japanese and I am looking to take the N2 this december (fingers crossed). And I can relate with many of your points in this video!
    Especially for me speaking has been a huge problem when learning languages (Chinese is my second language but I don't have confidence in speaking it). So in order to avoid that for Japanese, I started making it a point to take conversation lessons this year during summer break.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +4

      Glad to hear you can relate! Good luck on N2!!!

    • @Stargazingbutterfly
      @Stargazingbutterfly Год назад

      how do u take a N5, N4, N3, N2 or a N1 test? like is there some webbsite to test your self because i am so confused 😅

    • @Stargazingbutterfly
      @Stargazingbutterfly Год назад

      @@ToKiniAndy how do u take a N5, N4, N3, N2 or a N1 test? like is there some webbsite to test your self because i am so confused 😅

  • @ibrahimbeats
    @ibrahimbeats Год назад +3

    When I started learning I took a course at school that went through the first Genki textbook without teaching any kanji at all. I picked up Japanese learning again recently after 5 years and while I'm working through Genki II it feels super rough that I never learned any kanji so now I'm super motivated to cover that blind spot.

  • @BlackThaiGai
    @BlackThaiGai 8 месяцев назад

    I am moving to Okinawa soon and this video really helped with my anxiety on how to start learning. I’d love to pick your brain

  • @jakubjankovic4144
    @jakubjankovic4144 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this video. I have very on and off relationship with learning Japanese as thanks to the Kanji I am really struggling to apply immersion concepts I used when learning English and German ( just picking up a novel in target language and enjoying the content, watching movie with target language subs)

  • @quechl2508
    @quechl2508 Год назад

    ive been trying to passively learn the basics (and i mean basics-starting to learn kana on my phone on the way to school) and this has been really helpful and motovational.

  • @Brocollipy
    @Brocollipy Год назад +6

    Really helpful video thanks. I’ve been learning Japanese for a year and honestly was afraid to watch this video in case I’d missed something huge 😂 as you say I’ve also found the key is to get used to being a continual learner cos it’s one of the hardest languages I’ve studied, there really isn’t a ‘quick fix’. I have an online tutor and that has helped me to keep moving forward. Hoping in another year things will be a bit clearer 😂

    • @Brocollipy
      @Brocollipy Год назад +1

      @@8bg201 I use Preply.

  • @WalkingOverHere
    @WalkingOverHere Год назад

    Great intro video for folks and awesome editing andy!

  • @PixelisedPaul
    @PixelisedPaul Год назад +5

    I started a few years ago and was using Memrise as the main source of learning. Although I did take on board a fair bit of vocab I didn’t learn much sentence structure. I then realised that my method of learning was wrong and my motivation took a hit. Problem was I was just doing it for fun and with no clear reason. I still want to get back into it but may have to start from scratch even though I remember a decent amount. I’ve saved this video in my Japanese playlist for when I’m ready. Thanks for the info!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +2

      I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Memrise is the WRONG way to learn. It’s just that learning ONLY vocabulary leaves out so much of a language, so when you actually jump into real sentences, you realize that you don’t know what’s going. It’s still GREAT to have the vocabulary though! =)
      I hope this video can help when you decide to get back into it!

  • @xander7099
    @xander7099 Год назад

    ahh tofugu is great. My daughter started learning Japanese as a grade school language and was struggling so I found that website to try and learn it on my own. Now it is a language I want to learn as well. I would say I am about 85% comfortable with katakana and hiragana with the occasional mess ups in regards to the "silent" characters. Thanks for the vid. I will go pick up these books as well

  • @alucardjp1
    @alucardjp1 Год назад +6

    From my experience living in Japan for 15 years and speaking Japanese , my best tips would be , speak speak speak , learn substitute words and learn how to explain something rather than focus only on subjectives.
    Stuff like , if you don’t know what scissors are , you can explain it and people will fill in the blanks for you and over time your vocabulary will grow.
    A very useful word I recommend is やつ。
    Explanations -> Insert やつ
    People will ohhh you mean scissors ? It’s tedious early on but it’s really helpful.
    Don’t feel discouraged when you sound like a 4 year old for the first half a year.
    Focus on listening Comprehension and speaking.
    Reading later unless it’s your prime focus.
    Find something you enjoy consuming but do it in Japanese . Game reviews , RUclips , etc.
    Obviously you would need to start with regular basic grammar and than apply above.
    People who only sit through books studying kanji in my experience rarly excel later on when you actually get exposed to Japanese in real life

    • @alucardjp1
      @alucardjp1 11 месяцев назад

      @@youknowkbbaby would not recommend google translate , it’s heavily flawed unless your doing hi my name is type of stuff

  • @jjb2655
    @jjb2655 Год назад +1

    Thanks for you great tips. Something else worth noting is that you can use Japanese dictionary app or other furigana apps to scan in Japanese characters and text and then you can easily add to your various lists. Quite helpful and saves lots of look up time when compared to looking up via radical etc. Thanks to your video I have decided to play all of my games in Japanese going forward and also will watch my favorite tv series in Japanese if option is there. I have been studying Japanese on and off for 5 years and now is a good as time as any to switch over.
    Quick edit: you can also open a picture with Google Lens from your phone and select the copy text option and paste into the Japanese dictionary.

  • @SonadamyBiance
    @SonadamyBiance 11 месяцев назад +8

    As a begginer learner, i’m in my ~8th month of learning japanese and I still don’t even feel confident enough to do the JLPT N5 test yet. As I see other people on the internet saying “I passed N1 in just 6 months!” Really makes me feel like I’m just not made for it, and yes, from time to time I do get toughts of wanting to quit, but that’s completely normal! I know that a lot of people learning japanese might feel the same, and I just want to tell you that you’re not alone!

    • @drizz3y913
      @drizz3y913 11 месяцев назад

      What if we practice together I’m pretty new to it so it would help me and probably u if we learn how to together we can push each other. If u would like to just put down your discord.

    • @poxalmazro3e734
      @poxalmazro3e734 11 месяцев назад

      @@drizz3y913 Hey are you still looking for someone to practice - do language updates with?

    • @drizz3y913
      @drizz3y913 11 месяцев назад

      @@poxalmazro3e734 yeah

    • @drizz3y913
      @drizz3y913 10 месяцев назад

      @@Yeetedaway yeah

  • @saludsinfiltros6854
    @saludsinfiltros6854 Год назад

    Thanks for your advise, Andy sensei. Greetings from Perú.

  • @ManarNihonKankou
    @ManarNihonKankou Год назад

    Aweso tutorial bro! I like how you gets down to bus

  • @Shadow83830
    @Shadow83830 10 месяцев назад

    I just started abt a month ago and this has helped a ton so far

  • @TheOriginalSentack
    @TheOriginalSentack Год назад +2

    Good video Andy. I’m feeling a bit stuck in my progress, but maybe it’s because I’m trying too many things. I think this video is gonna be helpful. Thank you.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      I'm glad to hear that Sentack! Yeah, it can be easy to jump around too much and end up not progressing. I've found that the best way for me to progress has always been: Find 1 or 2 things I REALLY enjoy, and then just do it until I can't stand it any more.. haha Well, maybe not THAT much, but hopefully you get the point. =)

  • @JapaneseJourney
    @JapaneseJourney Год назад +5

    Very enjoyable to watch Andy, well done!
    When I first started, I used an audio course called Total Japanese by Michelle Thomas, which I liked and think might have benefited my pronunciation since it encourages some mild shadowing.
    I also used Remembering the Kana by James Heisig, which helped me verify if I liked the method. I did and went with Heisig for the Kanji as well. Today, I’m not sure if I wouldn’t go with Wani Kani instead though.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it. =)
      I also used Remembering the Kana. I really liked it (although not for Katakana).
      WaniKani is a strong contender for sure. There are a few things I don't personally love about it though, which is why I think combining this NEW (old) DS game I found (AFTER filming this video) with RTK is a winner.

  • @brekkoh
    @brekkoh Год назад +3

    I would also use anki, but I would recommend always making your own anki deck, even if you are basically copying an existing one, the mental process of creating the cards themselves is a pretty important overlooked aspect for anchoring memory

  • @zulinhl
    @zulinhl Год назад

    I just started to learn japanese a few months ago, thats how i found this channel. I recomend using memrise to memorize hiragana, katakana and vocabulary. At least i found it really helpfull until now and with other language learning

  • @Siinory
    @Siinory Год назад +1

    One of my 2023 resolution is to learn Japanese and this video will greatly help me! Being fluent in English (because I'm French) already helps to reads Japanese to English book and then translate to French and it can even better my English, I guess it's a win win!

  • @user-wl5ef3sy8z
    @user-wl5ef3sy8z Год назад +2

    英語の勉強をするべくyoutubeを見ていたらこちらのチャンネルに辿り着きました。言語は違えど基本的な学習方法は同じということに改めて気付かされました。

  • @tachibanamei6647
    @tachibanamei6647 9 месяцев назад

    I’m thinking about starting finally…. Subbed :)))

  • @skaikey
    @skaikey Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @melodymo1743
    @melodymo1743 Год назад +2

    I am a Chinese and have been learning Japanese for 1 month already. There is a super friendly Chinese app called 小语大师 which is the most useful Japanese-learning app for me!! So addictive

    • @henriquevasconcelos3441
      @henriquevasconcelos3441 Год назад

      Well, studying Kanji will sure be a lot easier to you, makes me kind of jealous.

  • @jonm3956
    @jonm3956 Год назад +321

    This video is very timely for me considering I am basically starting my Japanese language learning over again. I had studied Japanese many moons ago while I was on Okinawa for a year but got overwhelmed and dropped it once I was back in the states. Recently I became interested in learning Japanese language again to understand the lyrics in Japanese music and possibly attending a Robotic convention in Kyoto in October. I did purchase the Genki 3rd edition book and am finding the Genki Lesson videos and material on ToKini Andy with Andy, Yuki and now Mami very helpful. I will certainly be signing up for the ToKini Andy course which I believe will help greatly in my learning. Also, it looks like I have more books to buy and an another reason to break out the DS again. Any thoughts on the Japanese for Busy People series by AJALT? Thanks for sharing this video.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +10

      I didn’t personally like Japanese for Busy People when I tried it out 9 or 10 years ago, but I do know that some people like it. It doesn’t hurt to give it a shot. I might have to do a full review of it again, regardless, because I don’t remember much from it.
      I think it’s great that your giving it another shot! I hope that, if you jump into the course I hope that you will find it useful in your journey! Thank you for watching. =)

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin Год назад +6

      ​@@ToKiniAndy see I really want to learn to READ Japanese. I'm not as concerned with learning to speak it because I'm American and I live in America. But I really want to learn how to read it because so many of the best classic novels and horror novels are written in Japanese with no English translation 😭😭 and I am obsessed with Asian horror I just think it's so much scarier and better than Western horror is. So I'm more concerned with learning to read it vs getting the pronunciation right

    • @Trynottoblink
      @Trynottoblink Год назад +4

      Example card:
      Front:
      彼女は読書が好きです。
      Back:
      (As for) her, reading like.
      She likes reading.
      彼女 【かの・じょ】- she; her
      読書 【どく・しょ】- reading (book)

  • @8-Frames
    @8-Frames Год назад +1

    Thank you very much for these videos ToKini Andy. I've started the journey to learn Japanese a month ago, and I've been immersed in the language ever since.
    I decided to change everything that I use for entertainment to the Japanese language, and I'm having fun with it. From navigating the menus of the Xbox console to even changing the language on both audio and text of a videogame or reading material when applicable.
    Your videos are an excellent tool for guidance so I appreciate the effort that you put into these. Spanish is my mother tongue, and I've learned English from watching cartoons in the 80's-90''s, and I noticed that the learning was seamless without me putting any effort since I only consumed North American media back then.
    Now than I'm starting to actually focus in learning a 3rd language, this is where I'm noticing that my growth will mostly depend of the effort that I put, and the motivation so thank you very much once again.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      I'm happy to help, and also happy to hear that you are enjoying immersing! =) If you can enjoy it, you'll go a long way!

  • @kairu_b
    @kairu_b Год назад

    Thank you sir

  • @fuQbish
    @fuQbish Год назад +1

    I wish you made this two years ago lol.
    Love your videos, thanks for your hard work!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      I wish I did too! haha
      Thank you! =)

  • @tylerconrad8630
    @tylerconrad8630 Год назад

    I have a language tutor. And he is pretty much taking this approach. I’m only 3 weeks but this is making me so happy.

  • @UltraPoyoColt
    @UltraPoyoColt Год назад +1

    Ahh, some good tips on how to start, and since I have a Japanese 3ds, I’m already 1/5th of the way there!! Might try these someday as how I learn Japanese depends on what I feel like on said day. Sometimes I learn from videos, and sometimes I learn phrases that are related to what I want to do in Japan.

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад +1

      Doing what you feel like to do is fine too I think. Especially if you feel like doing something quite regularly! That's one of the most important things in the end I suppose. Consistency! Even if it's consistently doing many different things!
      I hope you can get some fun out of that 3ds!

  • @michaelboyle7281
    @michaelboyle7281 15 дней назад

    Great video! I started Japanese a little over a month ago on Duolingo just to see if it would stick with me, which it certainly has. It's also good to hear that it might take years to start becoming fluent in the language, makes it easier to have realistic goals and expectations. Also love that just consuming media in Japanese is also a tip. The main reason why I started to learn is because I got super into the video game Elden Ring and the Yakuza series games, I also had started reading my first manga, Inuyasha, and started the anime as well. Once I realized that almost all of the media I was consuming was coming from Japan I felt like I should try to learn the language and more about the culture and history of Japan too.

  • @saulgoodman4451
    @saulgoodman4451 11 месяцев назад

    Wtf this is the best intro the Japanese video I’ve come across after 1.5yrs of studying, I’m gonna get back to the basics ✊

  • @strawberryhimeko6145
    @strawberryhimeko6145 Год назад +68

    Ah I've been studying Japanese for just over a year now and there have been so many days where I doubt myself and feel like I haven't made any progress. I have one friend who lives in Japan and that helps me a lot, but even with only listening to Japanese music, podcasts,shows and playing all of my games in Japanese I still feel like I have barely scratched the surface 🥲 I dedicate a lot of my time to this because it's very important to me. I'm finally getting to a point where I can recognize patterns, hear/tell the difference between similar words and very basic sentences😅 I do have ADHD and learning disabilities so I try to be patient with myself, it takes me a very long time to really learn things🥲 the language makes me very happy and I appreciate studying it☺️ I'll focus more on these tips!😭

    • @Paul-yk7ds
      @Paul-yk7ds Год назад +8

      Japanese is very different from English, so it takes a longgg time, more time than most languages. It sounds like you are making some progress, though. Keep noticing what seems to work best for you and what you enjoy, and just keep it up

    • @TheFaipht
      @TheFaipht Год назад +1

      hey fellow adhd brain!! i, too, am trying to be patient as i learn, but i have merely just started my journey!! i have the mindset that im interested for life, and am trying to be kind to myself with the time involved, confident that eventually it's going to integrate into my daily living and hopefully in a decade or so, i'll be able to take a decent inventory of my growth! Keep moving forward, mate!!

  • @wege8409
    @wege8409 Год назад

    Anki is sick, it seems like it's been getting more love recently too. Glad to see people using this amazing tool.

  • @ducklingscap897
    @ducklingscap897 Год назад +1

    Wanikani is also amazing for learning to read Kanji. And for listening/shadowing I'd recommend the Nihongo con Teppei podcasts.

  • @forgotten4006
    @forgotten4006 Год назад

    Taking a trip to Japan next month, hopefully whatever I learn sticks!

  • @Epicswagskibbidydop
    @Epicswagskibbidydop Год назад +33

    In just a couple months I’m going to meet with my Japanese grandparents and family. And I felt honestly a little embarrassed knowing I might not be able to connect with them as close as I could. So I’m just reading as many books as I can and playing learning games already having a basic understanding. Hoping this helps!

    • @shiroishinko
      @shiroishinko Год назад +2

      My mom's side of the family is Japanese, but I live in America and my dad is African, when my mom called her parents all I could say was "wakarenai" and "gomen" so now I'm trying my best, next time I talk to them I hope I can say a bit more

    • @Antonwas12
      @Antonwas12 10 месяцев назад

      My grandparents are Russian and my Russian is gradually getting worse every day since I live in Germany. Relatable :c

  • @ultimagamer3293
    @ultimagamer3293 Год назад

    I’m going to start learning (I just started today) and this video is useful

  • @CC164
    @CC164 Год назад

    This is so good, and it’s a new post and not a 12 year old vid

  • @toranshaw4029
    @toranshaw4029 Год назад

    I'm certainly gonna have to get those books you mentioned, as I want to get going with my Japanese... as I want to visit Japan within 3 year or so, plus read some of my favourite manga (and watch anime without subs or dub) in Japanese too. :-)

  • @felixlorenz9609
    @felixlorenz9609 Год назад +2

    I started last year with Genki but i wasn’t that thrilled. So I gave up.This year i gave it a chance with Tobira this time and it works fine with me and has better structure and less English.Soon I’ll get the workbook which the publishers will release in less than a month. The only downside of Tobira is the lack of Answer Keys for self learners. But I’m in contact with publishers already seeking for a solution.

  • @retrohipster1060
    @retrohipster1060 Год назад +2

    Thank you again for this video Andy. I have been studying Japanese for about a month with another book and such and decided things just were working as well as I feel like they should/could. I decided I would start over and use Genki for Grammar/Overall language learning, Anki for vocab, that I wouldn't learn words that aren't very useful to me like Secretary, and Remembering the Kanji. I have Anki but just feel like I've finally figured out how I should rate words that I am learning for my purposes. Overall, I think I'm landing on things that work for me and that I really need more repetition on the things I'm learning. In particular, with vocabulary I'm finding that the neural plasticity I had when I tried learning Japanese 10 years ago just isn't there. ^,^;; Regardless though, I think that I'm on a good path now with the recommendations your videos make. :D I've looked at a ton of language learning videos and such over the last decade and I think that your video recommendations work the best for the way my brain functions. lol
    Note: The reason I am not properly learning some of the business related words right now is because my current goal is to just be able to survive in Japan for a week in about 4 months. In terms of usefulness, business terms aren't that useful for me right now.. I figure I can learn those later. My profession has so many terms that me interacting in a professional sense is going to require months of studying just industry terms. It also seems odd to me to learn how to say Newspaper before I learn a word I use, like Latte. lol

  • @NewWorldF00l
    @NewWorldF00l Год назад +1

    Tis the time of the year when the yt algorithm reminds me that i wanna learn the language but constantly get lost during the start and then drop it.
    Great video though!

  • @t0ph3rm4c
    @t0ph3rm4c Год назад +27

    Your point on hiragana and katakana not being taught together is actually why I created my own flashcards, showing them side by side.
    To me, it seemed similar to how we learned the English alphabet as kids. Showing the differences between upper and lower case letters i.e Aa Bb Cc Dd...

    • @Scion141
      @Scion141 Год назад +6

      This is true. When he mentioned that, our small and capital letters immediately came to mind, and I realised that I'd never seen Hiragana and Katakana being taught side by side. They should be taught that way.

  • @quackfaction8371
    @quackfaction8371 Год назад

    こんにちは!Hi I'm learning Japanese and I'm looking for awesome youtubers that helps me out! you got a new subscriber and I look forward to your videos!
    Amazing tips!
    ありがとうございます!
    Thank you!

  • @KevinAbroad
    @KevinAbroad Год назад

    That was a really good video! I really should get into graded readers again!

    • @ToKiniAndy
      @ToKiniAndy  Год назад

      Thanks Kevin! They can be really helpful! =)

  • @SeleneMarilyn
    @SeleneMarilyn Год назад +2

    I've been studying for little over a year and my listening and reading for the most part has improved greatly. Even if I dont understand the majority, I can pick out key things that I know and kind of summarize.
    What has gotten me stuck is responding. Output has been the biggest hurdle for me.
    It has been severely frustrating and demoralizing even. I can listen to someone and know what they're saying, but it's like my brain completely empties any sort of Japanese I've heard or learned over the course of a year.
    I get easy grammar wrong. Particles kick my ass constantly. Remembering both Kunyomi and Onyomi is difficult. My brain still confuses English sentence structures with Japanese and somehow my English has declined since studying! It's so odd that it takes more thought to think of words in my native tongue but I can't even speak somewhat confidently even if it's basic in Japanese.
    I'm sure there's others who have felt this issue themselves, but it really has put a damper in my studies. Not only that, being surrounded by a language other than your target doesn't help aid in using it on a daily basis. I can't fathom the idea of doing immersion for hours a day as my brain would be fried and I'd come to resent the process.

  • @johnkim9642
    @johnkim9642 Год назад

    Amazing

  • @black5000001
    @black5000001 Год назад

    About not rushing, that is true. I rushed for N3 last year and passed but, I still kinda not satisfied with the result. At the same time I was also learning Korean but at the slower pace. I got deeper understanding in Korean rather than Japanese and often understand Japanese grammar after going through Korean grammar with somewhat similar meaning and context. This year I will pursue N2 but, at a slower pace. Already finished the Kanji Master book and Shin Kanzen Goi. This level really pushes me to slow down this time, but I think that's necessary to just take the time and enjoy.

  • @ily1424
    @ily1424 Год назад

    i started learning japanese 4 days ago, i've been watching some jdramas - animes and i did really enjoy the language. i can understand some characters from hiragana & katakana. now i do wanna focus on pronunciation because i think i'm doing some mistakes with sounds "r" and "tsu" feels like i'm saying wrong 😅. at the same time i do study some basic things, "yes, no, thank you, meeting & greeting" etc. after learning these subjects i feel like i'm gonna go with grammar & vocabulary. but i'm in no rush to go with kanji, because ik that when i start to study kanji i'm gonna feel pressure. so whenever i feel ready i'll do that. as you said i'm trying to stay fun while learning, thank you so much for this video! i'm definitely gonna keep an eye on your channel.

  • @wdavis6814
    @wdavis6814 Год назад +2

    I recall when learning Spanish and Polish a while ago to always repeat words and sentences out loud. And then to write if you can. I also used this trick when I was in engineering school and it works. Your brain isn't meant to read everything in your internal monologue to learn. Saying stuff over and over really helps solidify stuff into memory.