@random user its like everyone forgets that you have to already beat HC to farm up that shit to give to a new HC char anyway. so this is absolutely impossible to happen in the first weeks of wow hc official servers. furthermore, Diablo has had the ability to give items to new HC chars for 25 years and no one complains in fact Diablo is referred to as one of the best examples of HC games, so WTF is everyone bitching about it now? absolutely nothing. Narcissists just find any excuse they can to BITCH about anything they have an excuse to start bitching about. thats todays reality.
@@uncletrashero No, you're today's reality. Spouting a bunch of nonsense and then pretending you've made some sort of point. "so this is absolutely impossible to happen in the first weeks of wow hc official servers" Your point?? Do you think that everyone's concern is exclusively what happens during the first few weeks? Honestly, what a stupid argument. Ok, so this doesn't happen during the first few weeks, but then starts to happen immediately after that. So in your mind it's mission accomplished? God damn. I'm actually angry at you for making me read such a stupid argument.
I'm honestly just more impressed by how many items you can actually use to twink out a character more than anything else I didn't know half of these enchants that you can put on low level items were a thing
@@jaredkinneyjr From the night elf starter area, quest giver by the lake south of the first town. You turn in a quest, wait for some rp, and he grows some baby plants to kill that drop the roots.
The amount of ppl in the comments not realizing that's exactly what ruined classic (bots, RMT, gold inflation, depreciation of player's own farm/grind/effort) and can easily ruin HC if there's no trade+AH restrictions. you won't even appreciate a green drop anymore, what's the charm then ? trade at 60 but no AH is the perfect solution
Because right now the addon prevents trading and to get verified you have to have your character reviewed by mods of the addon. So while you may be able to cheat the system it’s difficult to do so and you would certainly get caught if you did everything in this video.
He was PvP flagged at some point. Imagine if some male Orc or Undead Rogue came out of stealth to oneshot grief him and remove all the buffs Would have been a fitting ending as well 😂
i was expecting him to die: when porting to stormwind, when using the goblin boots, when being summoned to stranglethorn vietnam, when heartstoning out of ganking bay and finally due to dc in middle of low lvl mobs. Nothing happening seems weird
@@TheSpartanlaw are you under the false impression that you are save as unflagged low lvl in home city? geez you must be retail only player. Random invite from someone, that someone engages in pvp, bam you are pvp flagged too without doing anything. In orgrimmar the cenarion emmisary can be made to attack you. Warlock can summon infernal or other thing. Hunter can resummon pet with plague from plaguelands or swamp of sorrows... you are really naive if you think you cant die
I'll admit, I was one of those guys that thought some of the hardcore challenge rules were stupid and anti-mmo but this stuff would actually defeat the essense of hardcore. It's not gonna be as much of an issue for the first 2-3 weeks or so but they should probably restrict trading and mailbox use until you reach level 60.
I don't think it will ever be this prevalent. Getting a single character to endgame will be an undertaking on its own. Getting these items will be a huge investment, and giving them to a twink alt will be a huge risk. Yeah, you have an advantage against others your lvl, but one lvl 40 rogue can make you lose it all in an instant. I think the meta will be to always level in groups. As long as dungeon farming is regulated, I think the nature of a HC server will be self regulating and encourage more player interdependence than non-hc, which I'm always for. I would much rather play official HC in a group than unofficial HC solo.
i prefer no trading and AH until level 60 but you are allow to group up with others for quests on your level range and 2-3 run cap per dungeon until level 60 it will be more interested that way
The level range grouping generally solves the repeated dungeoning issue, unless someone find a group of friends that also want to run 5-6 times but, if they wanna do that then why should the rest of us care really? It cheapens their own experience.
@@jonathanrfisher agree but for my HC experience leveling the most fun part was the dungeons even caping it 2clears per dungeon will be still fine and you don't need to grind mobs for exp open world to catch level for next zone 😉
For me if you don't solo HC then its NOT an achievement , anyone who needs help or their hands holding can't seriously be considered Hardcore ..........
This gearing up video reminded me of that scene from commando or any other action movie from the 80s where they gear up for like 5 minutes straight with guns, ammo and armor.
hc in official server and turtlewow are so different. in turtlewow its all about the journey. people congratulate you for reaching lvl 60. you literally beat the game at that point. meanwhile in official server its all about the endgame especially the raid. the game just begin at lvl 60
You won't be able to dungeon boost on HC servers, it'll have the same restrictions SoM has (if a mob is grey to anyone in the group, you get 1xp when it dies).
@@StrangestReality oh you sweet child. as if that stopped people from doing it when it came out. if theres a market, they will boost. and theyve already figured out how to boost even with the anti-boosting mechanics
I'll admit, that did look fun at the end. I do get this problem though. It'll cheapen characters for sure. As much as I might want to say if people wanna try hard, let em. Considering there's some times you can just have as consumables for near get-out-of-jail free cards is definitely too much. The enchants however will get outscaled and they'll have to replace it with new gear. While I wanna say I don't expect people to re-enchant gear so often, considering how long the levelling actually it, that might not actually be unrealistic to have happen. I think that can be where the problem is being a level 1 twink? Who cares, first few levels are obviously gonna be a breeze. But as you get higher and higher level and they take so much longer, all the different buffs and consumables will add up and that major difference will be felt. Funny video as always, keep up the great work!
@@Sonadourge Yeah I was merely talking about the self imposed auction house and mail restrictions of the actual hardcore addon. On official servers if it's just 1 death and you can't be resed people will be trading as much as possible to buff their character, and probably instance leveling.
@@blaket1841 I just really hope they tune down the instance levelling a bunch. I wanna do instances for the gear because that's what feels good. I don't really like the idea of dungeons having some of the best gear and having to get really lucky for the right pieces. I also really like the idea of being a lower level and getting to feel like you're really well geared for your level bracket. Like you've got the current bis dungeon gear for your level
So this is basically just like my diablo 2 online hardcore mode experience. Where I had friends loot the items from my corpse so they could give it to my new character. (And also having overleveled online players carry me until nightmare.... and also having alt accounts I can trade with.... Official Harcore definetly need some restrictions lol...)
naaah just need achivment system, and let the people play like they want, but if u do some extra challenge like if do HC witout trade, witout player 5 level more than u, some like that shits at the end u have a 100% mount plus a tittle
@@hvyarms4496 The thing is, if they keep trading themselves BIS items at every level bracket, or let themselves be carried by others constantly. Then how are they going to get better in the game to have any hopes at surviving the endgame content to begin with? Although maybe that's the point now that I think of it...
Diablo 2 is a lot more about gear while WoW is about gaining levels - there are similarities in the sense that you get boosted but the advantage you get in WoW are incredibly more impactful.
If people want to play like this (and they will), great! They're having fun in classic. This is why classic is awesome, so many different ways to play. For me, I really hope there's a solo-self-found checkbox on character creation. An in-game title for that would be nice too.
i mean it can happen but don't forget that once you die you cannot resurect, so if you trade anything to that character like mooncloth bags, once you die they are lost, you cannot trade them or send them to another alt.
The prophet has spoken, its only been a month since this video was released and its going to be EXACTLY like this video. Unfortunately Blizzard isn't an Azamous viewer so they didn't see this coming.
First couple weeks will be fun on a fresh, but I'm still going back to Blood Sail with the addon. Server will be trashed very quickly if they're allowing trades and AH. There will be GDKP's and other trash that comes with allowing players to buy gold.
Even if you disable trading what’s stopping your main from following your alt around and keep them safe? Since you make it clear you have two accounts in the video.
Not defending the strategy you suggested but at least in that specific case bots & RMT are not a problem. If the issue is "excessive team work", it's not the end of the world but I get people wanting to conserve Solo Self Found.
On turtle wow hc players can only trade with hc players within their lvl range +-1, no mail, no AH. So in order to trade something from a lvl 60 to a lvl 1, you'd need 58 other toons lvl 2-59. This is probably (or SHOULD BE) what blizzard will do.
You would then be creating a 3rd party market for gold sellers and items via bots at every level range. They simply trade the items down the chain for you in exchange for compensation. But it's not a bad idea. I just personally don't have any reason to want to trade. I'm SSF the whole way personally.
@@Calx9 all items become soulbound when traded? I prefer not taking a chance on incentivizing 3rd party stuff but just throwing that out as a possible solution
@@mikko3 like I said. I’d prefer that. The only thing I would see as a potential change would be figuring out how to make enchanting relevant. That goes for any of professions gated by requiring another profession to advance. As it stands now it’s a dead profession because a bs is needed for every runed rod. But if they decide not to do that I won’t complain. I expect blizzard to take whatever approach requires the least amount of work and customer service.
Hilarious. This is why the official hardcore server will be fun for the first couple of months and then become completely pointless afterward. Honestly 'death = delete' is probably the LEAST important aspect of hardcore.. yet that's the only thing implemented.
You guys don’t realize its not gonna be like this lmao. The new hardcore server wont have level 60s. It Will be fresh lol. bots and goldsellers wont be a big problem either. Boosting is not possible with the SoM changes. So people wont be having a ridiculous amount of gold either. This video make not sense.
You know this is 100% what people will do in official HC. Blizzard never cared to monitor and support its playerbase, no way they do it for official HC, if and when it falls down to player hands, this is gonna be the average HC character.
Preparing 5 hour or more with main character ,getting buffs on alt more than a hour,enchanting all the items,and after a 10 hour preparing going to starter zone and getting killed by a random rogue. Cant wait
I think the solution really should be one of the following. 1: They make more than one hardcore mode and have separate realms for them. Modes could be 1: Permadeath only 2: Permadeath, no trading, no mail, no auction house 3: The full current addon ruleset. 2: They could offer the same options as above (or even more) on a single HC realm. An NPC in the start zones allows you to set your mode before you take your first quest OR reach level 2. When selecting a player you will be able to see which mode they are playing. Potentially even splitting trade/non trade modes to their own layer where possible. I think tying the only official HC realm to the current addon rules entirely isn't ideal since there have been other hardcore/ironman rulesets before now. But at the same time if they do not enforce a full ruleset, this will definitely happen for sure. Here's the main problem I think, and why it's most likely all that blizzard will provide is permadeath. They seem to want to do this fast (PTR in weeks), I doubt they have been working on it long. Adding permadeath to a server (and adding some frill to client to supplement that) is easy. Adding rules on trade, auction house, mail, who you can group with, death for the whole group etc. That's a bit more work, which they either won't want to do, or cannot do in the timescale they're aiming for.
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hc hype
I was betting that wen you finished trading you would use the goblin boots, blow up to the sky and die LMFAO.
@random user its like everyone forgets that you have to already beat HC to farm up that shit to give to a new HC char anyway. so this is absolutely impossible to happen in the first weeks of wow hc official servers. furthermore, Diablo has had the ability to give items to new HC chars for 25 years and no one complains in fact Diablo is referred to as one of the best examples of HC games, so WTF is everyone bitching about it now? absolutely nothing. Narcissists just find any excuse they can to BITCH about anything they have an excuse to start bitching about. thats todays reality.
@@uncletrashero No, you're today's reality. Spouting a bunch of nonsense and then pretending you've made some sort of point. "so this is absolutely impossible to happen in the first weeks of wow hc official servers" Your point?? Do you think that everyone's concern is exclusively what happens during the first few weeks? Honestly, what a stupid argument.
Ok, so this doesn't happen during the first few weeks, but then starts to happen immediately after that. So in your mind it's mission accomplished? God damn. I'm actually angry at you for making me read such a stupid argument.
I was fully expecting Isellgold to show up in this one.
The legend did not appear sadly.
He stopped selling gold, now his name is Isellmeth
@@randomrambo2273 I love it when people try to turn their lives around.
I was expecting lvl 60 to come along and 1 shot him.
I'm honestly just more impressed by how many items you can actually use to twink out a character more than anything else I didn't know half of these enchants that you can put on low level items were a thing
That's why wow is such an intresting game aspecially vanilla
i've never even heard of a bogling root
Same lol. I usually send the alt a couple bags and 5g
@@jaredkinneyjr From the night elf starter area, quest giver by the lake south of the first town. You turn in a quest, wait for some rp, and he grows some baby plants to kill that drop the roots.
I'll def level my 2nd and 10th alt with these bis items
Most fair hardcore character:
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There is no way Blizz puts in restrictions. That would require them to actually do something.
Theres no way the community can actually enjoy something without fucking it up
@@maxpowers4436 The last 3 years of Hardcore WoW begs to differ
Exactly. They just see HC as yet another way to make money. F the fanbase.
@@Damaxyz yeah because of the rules lol theres no way to ruin it. and it will be if people can trade/mail
Trial accounts back in the day had trade restrictions. I'm sure they could do it but honestly I think no restrictions is better
I thought rocket boots was gonna throw u up in the air right when you start questing and kill you lmao
is this some retail thing? rocket boots don't ever do that
@@epiccombovideocentral995 its wotlk
Isnt that the belt from wotlk?
Absolutely the same! I miss that %chance of just things going wrong..
The amount of ppl in the comments not realizing that's exactly what ruined classic (bots, RMT, gold inflation, depreciation of player's own farm/grind/effort) and can easily ruin HC if there's no trade+AH restrictions. you won't even appreciate a green drop anymore, what's the charm then ? trade at 60 but no AH is the perfect solution
A little 500 gold is a fair starter amount. He's such s gentleman.
Yea i dunno if 500 is enough but i guess its enough to get you out of elwynn forest alive.
PPC
A small loan of 500 gold,
Casual. You don't even have an army of 60s on follow giving you blessing of might, gift of the wild, thorns and fortitude. Are you even trying?
HSUSHUESHUSHSHAHAHAHAH
And their guild should be named "Trve Hardcore"
Hardcore is all about receiving max lvl loot as soon as you spawn.
Truehardcore is such a generous guy. What a great friend to have!
This is EXACTLY what will happen on a restriction-free HC server, thank you for making this.
I mean isn't the whole hardcore thing basically a trust based system? Why would this not be a problem now but is one later on?
Because right now the addon prevents trading and to get verified you have to have your character reviewed by mods of the addon.
So while you may be able to cheat the system it’s difficult to do so and you would certainly get caught if you did everything in this video.
Just use the addon on the HC servers then, problem solved.
@@sucraloss but you can currently not use the addon..... and you could use the addon on an official HC server. SO who cares?
@@johnnyb3486 the addon usage surely will be enforced or else this would happen.
He was PvP flagged at some point. Imagine if some male Orc or Undead Rogue came out of stealth to oneshot grief him and remove all the buffs
Would have been a fitting ending as well 😂
His character also would never stop being a ghost
Hes doing this on his own private server lmao
That's what I thought was going to happen when he went to Booty Bay lmfao
If I saw some level 1 cheating like this in HC. As a forsaken rogue main it would be my duty.
i was expecting him to die: when porting to stormwind, when using the goblin boots, when being summoned to stranglethorn vietnam, when heartstoning out of ganking bay and finally due to dc in middle of low lvl mobs. Nothing happening seems weird
Are you under the false impression that players in a non-pvp server can just up and attack non-pvp flagged players?
@@TheSpartanlaw are you under the false impression that you are save as unflagged low lvl in home city? geez you must be retail only player. Random invite from someone, that someone engages in pvp, bam you are pvp flagged too without doing anything. In orgrimmar the cenarion emmisary can be made to attack you. Warlock can summon infernal or other thing. Hunter can resummon pet with plague from plaguelands or swamp of sorrows... you are really naive if you think you cant die
@@TheSpartanlaw looks to me like he was pvp flaged while in BB so i was expecting him to die as well
+1 on the rocket boots
@@Rencol666 you don't get flagged by joining a party with someone flagged.
CRAZY how accurate this is becoming
right
Yep, just look at the ridiculous AH prices lol
HC Hype! This was gold!
Hey thanks for the HC Official Server guide, appreciate the content
I'll admit, I was one of those guys that thought some of the hardcore challenge rules were stupid and anti-mmo but this stuff would actually defeat the essense of hardcore. It's not gonna be as much of an issue for the first 2-3 weeks or so but they should probably restrict trading and mailbox use until you reach level 60.
I don't think it will ever be this prevalent. Getting a single character to endgame will be an undertaking on its own. Getting these items will be a huge investment, and giving them to a twink alt will be a huge risk. Yeah, you have an advantage against others your lvl, but one lvl 40 rogue can make you lose it all in an instant.
I think the meta will be to always level in groups. As long as dungeon farming is regulated, I think the nature of a HC server will be self regulating and encourage more player interdependence than non-hc, which I'm always for. I would much rather play official HC in a group than unofficial HC solo.
@@heroclix0rz HEY BUDDY YOU CAN JUST BUY IT FROM SOMEONE USING REAL MONEY???? AND HAVE EVERYTHING TRADED TO YOU????? EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?????
can't wait for part 2 where he dies to the murlocs east of goldshire
Mmo players don't deserve a new mmo. We have destroyed the integrity of the game's entire purpose. We did this to ourselves.
You mean those guys who don't have enough time so they buy anything to play the game. But remember they have no time to play the game.
i prefer no trading and AH until level 60 but you are allow to group up with others for quests on your level range and 2-3 run cap per dungeon until level 60 it will be more interested that way
The level range grouping generally solves the repeated dungeoning issue, unless someone find a group of friends that also want to run 5-6 times but, if they wanna do that then why should the rest of us care really? It cheapens their own experience.
@@jonathanrfisher agree but for my HC experience leveling the most fun part was the dungeons even caping it 2clears per dungeon will be still fine and you don't need to grind mobs for exp open world to catch level for next zone 😉
For me if you don't solo HC then its NOT an achievement , anyone who needs help or their hands holding can't seriously be considered Hardcore ..........
Outer-world grouping would destroy duo-trio gameplay.
@@orkunakman1541 duo-trio gamplay itself destroys hardcore experience lol. Duo-trio IS grouping.
I logged into HC WoW on Defias Pillager and this is exactly what I saw on a 28 rogue with full BiS items and enchants...
Bro forgot to get ported to darny for that bowskill smh
Well, this turned out to be pretty accurate.
This gearing up video reminded me of that scene from commando or any other action movie from the 80s where they gear up for like 5 minutes straight with guns, ammo and armor.
Guess this is a canon event after all
This entire video: "but wait, there's more!"
Coming for Billy Mays' brand
RIP
hc in official server and turtlewow are so different.
in turtlewow its all about the journey. people congratulate you for reaching lvl 60. you literally beat the game at that point.
meanwhile in official server its all about the endgame especially the raid. the game just begin at lvl 60
I secretly hoped the player clicked a horde griefer, got flagged, and all those items/gold got deleted
Same
Spoiler
There should be Hardcore and Ironman options, so you can't trade with anyone. But like usual, it'll probably be pay to win somehow
Oh well back to private servers I guess
10/10 content.
The only thing missing was the dungeon boosting
Probably on next chapter
Ragefire Chasm and Stockades are what, lvl 10-12 to enter?
You won't be able to dungeon boost on HC servers, it'll have the same restrictions SoM has (if a mob is grey to anyone in the group, you get 1xp when it dies).
@@StrangestReality oh you sweet child. as if that stopped people from doing it when it came out. if theres a market, they will boost. and theyve already figured out how to boost even with the anti-boosting mechanics
Dungeons have a 1 day cooldown pre-60
They really need to make trading only available for level 60 characters lol
I’ve never watched more content from a RUclips channel without laughing. I still watch these all the way till the end 😂
HC HYPE HC HYPE
I was hoping after all that, a troll hunter kites a mob to you FDs and u get one shot and have to delete 😂
I'll admit, that did look fun at the end. I do get this problem though. It'll cheapen characters for sure. As much as I might want to say if people wanna try hard, let em. Considering there's some times you can just have as consumables for near get-out-of-jail free cards is definitely too much. The enchants however will get outscaled and they'll have to replace it with new gear. While I wanna say I don't expect people to re-enchant gear so often, considering how long the levelling actually it, that might not actually be unrealistic to have happen. I think that can be where the problem is being a level 1 twink? Who cares, first few levels are obviously gonna be a breeze. But as you get higher and higher level and they take so much longer, all the different buffs and consumables will add up and that major difference will be felt. Funny video as always, keep up the great work!
Considering it's customary to pay for gear these days (token, gdkps, etc) almost no one will be playing hardcore in a self found manner.
@@blaket1841 The thing is with gdkps you need to get to the level to raid in the first place. Token's aren't in classic era but rmt will be a thing
@@Sonadourge Yeah I was merely talking about the self imposed auction house and mail restrictions of the actual hardcore addon. On official servers if it's just 1 death and you can't be resed people will be trading as much as possible to buff their character, and probably instance leveling.
@@blaket1841 I just really hope they tune down the instance levelling a bunch. I wanna do instances for the gear because that's what feels good. I don't really like the idea of dungeons having some of the best gear and having to get really lucky for the right pieces. I also really like the idea of being a lower level and getting to feel like you're really well geared for your level bracket. Like you've got the current bis dungeon gear for your level
This actually looks fun to attempt
AH and trading WILL ruin hc. It’s a certainty
So this is basically just like my diablo 2 online hardcore mode experience. Where I had friends loot the items from my corpse so they could give it to my new character.
(And also having overleveled online players carry me until nightmare.... and also having alt accounts I can trade with.... Official Harcore definetly need some restrictions lol...)
naaah just need achivment system, and let the people play like they want, but if u do some extra challenge like if do HC witout trade, witout player 5 level more than u, some like that shits at the end u have a 100% mount plus a tittle
Most people are gonna die anyways even with the help. If not leveling, then deff while gettin raid ready. Can't get carried forever
@@hvyarms4496 Pretty much.
@@hvyarms4496 The thing is, if they keep trading themselves BIS items at every level bracket, or let themselves be carried by others constantly. Then how are they going to get better in the game to have any hopes at surviving the endgame content to begin with? Although maybe that's the point now that I think of it...
Diablo 2 is a lot more about gear while WoW is about gaining levels - there are similarities in the sense that you get boosted but the advantage you get in WoW are incredibly more impactful.
If people want to play like this (and they will), great! They're having fun in classic. This is why classic is awesome, so many different ways to play.
For me, I really hope there's a solo-self-found checkbox on character creation. An in-game title for that would be nice too.
Yeah go play regular classic wow, HC was created by the community for a reason
THE POINT IS THE SAME RULES FOR EVERYONE, IF THERE IS 9 DIFFERENT RULE SETS WHAT IS THE POINT?????????
i mean it can happen but don't forget that once you die you cannot resurect, so if you trade anything to that character like mooncloth bags, once you die they are lost, you cannot trade them or send them to another alt.
No... REALLLYYYYY????11
I've not even really played HC yet and this still hurt my soul.
The prophet has spoken, its only been a month since this video was released and its going to be EXACTLY like this video. Unfortunately Blizzard isn't an Azamous viewer so they didn't see this coming.
First couple weeks will be fun on a fresh, but I'm still going back to Blood Sail with the addon. Server will be trashed very quickly if they're allowing trades and AH. There will be GDKP's and other trash that comes with allowing players to buy gold.
Sad but true. 100% will happen
Easy enough. Just make it so lvl 60 only can trade with lvl 60.
A better system is probably doing that + allowing everyone else to only trade with ch a racters of roughly their own level.
@@dieuwtjin they'll just pass it down a chain of progressively lower level characters until it's on their new character
@@imjohnfreeman That is a huge hassle though. Also, it is preventable by having only one character on a realm.
COMPLETELY lost it when he was like "oooohh yea, now i got dragonslater. " ffs love these vids so much. 🤣🤣
Now show Teremus being kited onto Hcenjoyer in Goldshire and getting one tapped
Griefers can't hit 60 without dying
@@zhadez10 bold of you to assume they didn’t buy a max level character
Even if you disable trading what’s stopping your main from following your alt around and keep them safe? Since you make it clear you have two accounts in the video.
Not defending the strategy you suggested but at least in that specific case bots & RMT are not a problem. If the issue is "excessive team work", it's not the end of the world but I get people wanting to conserve Solo Self Found.
I mean. That's hardcore, as long as you don't die.
This sounds pretty normal on 1.5 speed
The whole time I was waiting for him to accidentally attack a Hordie masquerading as an NPC and lose everything he just traded.
I was fully expecting you to get ganked or die of something dumb at the end
This will be the reality on blizz hc servers in 5-6 months.
Edit: even less than a month.
This might be one of the best videos I have ever seen. Read my mind like a book.
On turtle wow hc players can only trade with hc players within their lvl range +-1, no mail, no AH. So in order to trade something from a lvl 60 to a lvl 1, you'd need 58 other toons lvl 2-59. This is probably (or SHOULD BE) what blizzard will do.
You would then be creating a 3rd party market for gold sellers and items via bots at every level range. They simply trade the items down the chain for you in exchange for compensation. But it's not a bad idea. I just personally don't have any reason to want to trade. I'm SSF the whole way personally.
@@Calx9 all items become soulbound when traded? I prefer not taking a chance on incentivizing 3rd party stuff but just throwing that out as a possible solution
@@echoesofmalachor3700 Or just remove trade, very easy
@@mikko3 like I said. I’d prefer that.
The only thing I would see as a potential change would be figuring out how to make enchanting relevant. That goes for any of professions gated by requiring another profession to advance. As it stands now it’s a dead profession because a bs is needed for every runed rod. But if they decide not to do that I won’t complain. I expect blizzard to take whatever approach requires the least amount of work and customer service.
@@echoesofmalachor3700 Possibly. Even that would take a lot of manpower as some items would need to remain tradable.
its like going to a hotel when the whole point was going camping XD
I cant believe this is unironically majority of the playerbase
Amazing video man, thanks for putting it together😂
Damn man you get it so perfect you just had my subscription
It might be hard to find a Heart & Head to drop, unless somebody is able to transfer at 60 with world buffs for a bunch of level 1 HC characters.
this aged well
Was nervous for you dying when you got summoned to STV :D
No one will be able to do this when everyone starts at lv 1 at the same time on new server
Hilarious. This is why the official hardcore server will be fun for the first couple of months and then become completely pointless afterward.
Honestly 'death = delete' is probably the LEAST important aspect of hardcore.. yet that's the only thing implemented.
You guys don’t realize its not gonna be like this lmao. The new hardcore server wont have level 60s. It Will be fresh lol. bots and goldsellers wont be a big problem either. Boosting is not possible with the SoM changes. So people wont be having a ridiculous amount of gold either. This video make not sense.
Waiting for this blow up and blizzard to rethink trading pre 60
who is this Truehardcore nobody? GIMME THE MAN, THE LEGEND... ISELLGOLD!!!!!
Oh my god lol I didn’t even know there was so much power you could have at level 1, the true rpg magic and hardcore makes it better! Hc hype Hc hype
This is the first time your vid popped up for me without it being asmon reacting! Subbed. Amazing content! Love your gdkp vid
your foresight is amazing
You know this is 100% what people will do in official HC. Blizzard never cared to monitor and support its playerbase, no way they do it for official HC, if and when it falls down to player hands, this is gonna be the average HC character.
cherry on top would have been after all that prep, he just dies to a griefer after he hearths back to the starting zone.
I was expecting him to run out get cocky and die immediately after all that
Hardcore means hardcore. This is exactly the type of person the server is meant to attract.
my mans out here killing those wolves like hes playing on retail
The popular streamer experience.
That toon was nuts
Preparing 5 hour or more with main character ,getting buffs on alt more than a hour,enchanting all the items,and after a 10 hour preparing going to starter zone and getting killed by a random rogue.
Cant wait
legend says he is still not done yet
How is this not higher voted?
Where’s the part where he dies anyway and loses all of that amazing equipment?
I expected you to die in the first mine to Goldtooth or maybe Hogger
Honestly I'd be down for this those early levels are such a drag
For sure exactly what will happen if there aren't restrictions.
This is the true hardcore experience
I was expecting there to be a high level elite right where he got summoned and just instantly kill him.
This dude was just showing us the future. We all should of listened and not have wasted our time.
I fully expected an appearance of /makgora and endless killing of level one hc toons
i was expecting a insta kill at booty bay
lol
I was waiting for the end where he AFK runs into the lava at IF and wasted all that prep work.
The HC HYPE chant really is icing on the cake
Guess he doesnt die until you drop the 2nd video lmao.
I think the solution really should be one of the following.
1: They make more than one hardcore mode and have separate realms for them. Modes could be 1: Permadeath only 2: Permadeath, no trading, no mail, no auction house 3: The full current addon ruleset.
2: They could offer the same options as above (or even more) on a single HC realm. An NPC in the start zones allows you to set your mode before you take your first quest OR reach level 2. When selecting a player you will be able to see which mode they are playing. Potentially even splitting trade/non trade modes to their own layer where possible.
I think tying the only official HC realm to the current addon rules entirely isn't ideal since there have been other hardcore/ironman rulesets before now. But at the same time if they do not enforce a full ruleset, this will definitely happen for sure.
Here's the main problem I think, and why it's most likely all that blizzard will provide is permadeath. They seem to want to do this fast (PTR in weeks), I doubt they have been working on it long. Adding permadeath to a server (and adding some frill to client to supplement that) is easy. Adding rules on trade, auction house, mail, who you can group with, death for the whole group etc. That's a bit more work, which they either won't want to do, or cannot do in the timescale they're aiming for.
It's not that much work. All of that could be added in a day with 2 competent programmers, maybe even just 1.
you can still use the addon if you want to play SSF
Imagine using RestedXP when the far superior GuideLime is an option xD
I've done plenty of level 1 rogue twinking back in the day and he's almost full Best in Slot. He's just missing the Arena Grand Master trinket.
You've accidently made a guide on level 1 fight club twinks lol. Dueling to the death is gunna be wild.
This is absolute peak degeneracy... and I love it
Here we go it's happening!!!!!! Can't wait for all the trading.
what was the name of the addon towards the end that told you to stay in Elwyn till 11 ? might have to download
RestedXP
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