I've been saving up this video and boy was it worth it. Thank you! I thought it would be worth mentioning (if you haven't already realised) that Peter and Harry sitting in front of Midtown High's football field reminded me of the beginning of the Ultimate Spider-Man game which, ironically, is where Peter faces off against Venom. Additionally, the Speed Demon ride and Coney Island reminds me a lot of the Spider-Man vs Doc Ock episode in Spectacular Spider-Man (a phenomenal episode!), which also involved the roller coaster going off the rails (almost quite literally). One other point that has been on my mind since I saw the trailer (particularly given Mr Negative's appearance) is the possibility of getting Anti-Venom at some point. The combination of Martin Li and "we're going to heal the world" really makes me think Harry could become Anti-Venom, while Eddie becomes Venom. It's a very random thought but I don't think it's totally far-fetched. At the very least, I thought it was very interesting that they decided to show Martin Li and Venom in the same trailer (and will be in the same game) - also considering the relationship between Norman Osborn and Li.
Awesome comment! It actually just occurred to me this morning that we never saw Martin Li's healing powers in the first game, and maybe we will this time...which could very well lead to Anti-Venom. I like that... Thanks for watching, as always!
Not impossible. Could be interesting. At a design level, I do wonder what they would do with all the leveling up you've done for the symbiote if Peter eventually loses it.
5:26 i noticed that that guy next to peter has a cable like pony tail (don't really know the correct term to that type of tail) any idea on who it might be with this detail?
the shot with the symbiont in a firey crater could be a flashback and it shows how the symbiont got to earth maybe norman discorvers its powers and found a way to keep it to attach fully to harry since in the previous games we only saw it was attached by some tendrils maybe im spitballing here but im too exited for this game
one thing about harry being venom is that as many i've always felt like it was a misdirection and after confirming it wasn't eddie brock i thought it could be kraven (because imagine kraven becoming the perfect hunter knowing everything about his prey thanks to the symbiote) but after this trailer i think it is in fact going to be harry but not because the trailer leans heavily into it and not because of the healing the world line said by both harry and venom but because of the music...leithmotivs never lie (it's also how i figured out phin was tinkerer even before playing miles morales at launch) and if you listen the main notes repeated throughout the whole trailer you can hear that they are the same notes present in the final part of the main theme they released weeks ago "greater together" which gave venom vibes
Is it just me or did they change a lot of the character models including the new model they made for Peter he looks a lot older from the one in the remastered version of the first game MJ and everyone else also looks like they either got touchups are there models look different?
@@cbake76 that is true. I guess you’re right. What it’s like I hate the face model for Peter in the first game when it was remastered, but I love it in the sequel I also love MJ and Miles. I think they also look good.
I realized the new trailer is out so I waited then I came here. Not even the Insomniac devs can hide anything from you. You noticed a plant and the exact issue and year it came out. 😂
Ha... That's actually a bit of fake news. I made a comment that I thought it was cool that they showed a dying plant in his apartment as a bit of characterization (he's busy!), but they interpreted that as me noticing the pink pot from the comics. I didn't. But I did track it down afterward!
@@cbake76 no problem. Not being a dick haha, audio balance is rough especially when there’s so many setups. Usually voice at -6 to -12 is good and music at -20 to -30. At least from my experience.
@@cbake76 haha just the decibels. You typically across everything want voice at -6 to -12 db. And from my experience and working under experienced editors -25 to -30 db for music. Ik it’s not the biggest deal you only post so often but occasionally it was hard to hear you or I’d have to adjust sound as I live in an apartment and it would vary. Good luck though. Picking up a ps5 for this game. Can’t wait for it to come out on pc this time
awesome video. In the part where Peter is on the window most assured that was Rio Morales. And now that i'm watching it here, in that shot where MJ's alone, i noticed that you can see someone's head downside, i think that's Peter.
Thanks, Javik! Rio...could be! I always think of her as having longer hair, especially after Spider-Verse (can't even remember how long it was in the Miles game, not that it really matters). Cool observations!
@@cbake76 yes also if you listen to what is been said at that moment you can hear that it's rio talking to peter "all miles talks about is how to be a better spiderman how to help you...GO-HELP-HIM"
0:36 maybe harry came to queens to talk to pete and they decided to go see a nostalgic place from simpler times, the high school, i’d definiteley do that
Yeah, I figure it's something like that. Even if they don't explain it, it's a cool backdrop, so it's not anything to really complain about. I'd just kinda like to know. 😀
@@cbake76update: don’t have a ps5 so haven’t played the game, but on august 4th(about 2 weeks after commenting here) i went out with an old school friend. On a whim he said to visit our old school where we were classmates in primary and gymnasium. We did go on a nostalgia trip, which is pretty common, especially during or after roughers times
I'm still not used to the new face for Peter Parker. I know the voice is the same, but it still feels like a recast. It's like if Tobey Maguire for plastic surgery between Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2.
I think people also forget we've had two Rhodeys in the MCU. 😀 And they tried to fool us into thinking Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney were all the same Batman back in the '90s.
@@cbake76 also a good trick to get over the face change quickly is to start paying attention to peter's expressions because as much as the new face model can be alienating at first (it was for me i felt detached all of a sudden when they announced it) but the more i looked at it the more i started to notice something...the expressions were still familiar and not because of the reused animations they also looked familiar in miles morales which had new animations made from the ground up for the new model they looked familiar because those weren't john bubniak's expressions neither ben jordan's they were yuri lowenthal's and when i noticed that i felt again that connection to peter (goes to show the improtance yuri has in this role and how with his performance alone he can bridge and overcome a complete redesign)
Harry's Mom is Venom theory is pretty out there but totally something they would do to trick us. Plus it just shows the Osborn family is corrupted by power. Harry shooting his cane into the window could be him finding out lol. That would make me want to throw something at a wall after relising my Dad kept that from me. Good idea 💡 - Luke
Big Wheel is actually Venom 🤯
Mind...blown.
In terms of the shot of Peter perched in the window in front of that woman, she is Rio Morales
pretty sure the guy discovering the symbiote is dr. connors since he works for osborn
Very possible. I wonder if the symbiote rips his arm off?...
@@cbake76great minds think a like
I've been saving up this video and boy was it worth it. Thank you! I thought it would be worth mentioning (if you haven't already realised) that Peter and Harry sitting in front of Midtown High's football field reminded me of the beginning of the Ultimate Spider-Man game which, ironically, is where Peter faces off against Venom. Additionally, the Speed Demon ride and Coney Island reminds me a lot of the Spider-Man vs Doc Ock episode in Spectacular Spider-Man (a phenomenal episode!), which also involved the roller coaster going off the rails (almost quite literally).
One other point that has been on my mind since I saw the trailer (particularly given Mr Negative's appearance) is the possibility of getting Anti-Venom at some point. The combination of Martin Li and "we're going to heal the world" really makes me think Harry could become Anti-Venom, while Eddie becomes Venom. It's a very random thought but I don't think it's totally far-fetched. At the very least, I thought it was very interesting that they decided to show Martin Li and Venom in the same trailer (and will be in the same game) - also considering the relationship between Norman Osborn and Li.
Awesome comment! It actually just occurred to me this morning that we never saw Martin Li's healing powers in the first game, and maybe we will this time...which could very well lead to Anti-Venom. I like that... Thanks for watching, as always!
I think the flashback scene with the symbiote being found is curt conners. Maybe his arm got wrecked when he got to close to the symbiote?
Ha... I just suggested that idea in my response to @victorhemerly7999. 😀
@@cbake76 indeed! Could possibly be captain Stacy?
I'm a tad too lazy to go look for curt in the last scene of the first game.
I wonder if Peter and Venom will be both carrying the symbiote simultaneously at some point
Not impossible. Could be interesting. At a design level, I do wonder what they would do with all the leveling up you've done for the symbiote if Peter eventually loses it.
Screwball is Venom.
Until this trailer I thought they were going for a Lab Manufactured symbiote origin, glad it seems their keeping the alien orgins in tact
I can see that. Insomniac shakes things up, but everything ultimately still feels authentic at the end of the day.
5:26 i noticed that that guy next to peter has a cable like pony tail (don't really know the correct term to that type of tail) any idea on who it might be with this detail?
Could be a character like Charles Standish (I think that was his name?) who appeared in trailers but was super-ultra-obscure (or even made up).
When you were describing the ferris wheel going rouge I thought you were gonna reference Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions
I totally forgot about that part! Ha! Sometimes it's the stuff closest to you that's furthest from your mind.
the shot with the symbiont in a firey crater could be a flashback and it shows how the symbiont got to earth
maybe norman discorvers its powers and found a way to keep it to attach fully to harry since in the previous games we only saw it was attached by some tendrils
maybe im spitballing here but im too exited for this game
Yeah, that could very well be the case. Thanks for watching!
one thing about harry being venom is that as many i've always felt like it was a misdirection and after confirming it wasn't eddie brock i thought it could be kraven (because imagine kraven becoming the perfect hunter knowing everything about his prey thanks to the symbiote) but after this trailer i think it is in fact going to be harry but not because the trailer leans heavily into it and not because of the healing the world line said by both harry and venom but because of the music...leithmotivs never lie (it's also how i figured out phin was tinkerer even before playing miles morales at launch) and if you listen the main notes repeated throughout the whole trailer you can hear that they are the same notes present in the final part of the main theme they released weeks ago "greater together" which gave venom vibes
Nice analysis! My prediction was the Tinkerer was Shuri...which I still kinda like... 😀
Pretty sure thats Rio talking to Spiderman when when he is in the window frame.
That seems to be the consensus. Works for me. Thanks for the comment!
Its here!
Your comment? Yes! Thanks for watching! 😀
Is it just me or did they change a lot of the character models including the new model they made for Peter he looks a lot older from the one in the remastered version of the first game MJ and everyone else also looks like they either got touchups are there models look different?
I thought the models looked better imo. A little older. Like stress of like has gotten to them and it starting to show now.
@@andray310 that’s fair like especially after the last game if I was Spider-Man like I’d be getting gray hairs I wouldn’t be doing too Hot mentally
You also have to keep in mind that everything until this game had to be compatible with PS4. Added detail can make things look different.
@@cbake76 that is true. I guess you’re right. What it’s like I hate the face model for Peter in the first game when it was remastered, but I love it in the sequel I also love MJ and Miles. I think they also look good.
That’s actually Rio that’s talking to Spider-Man
Cool, yeah, I'm just too used to her long-haired look in Spider-Verse now for that to dawn on me.
I realized the new trailer is out so I waited then I came here.
Not even the Insomniac devs can hide anything from you. You noticed a plant and the exact issue and year it came out. 😂
Ha... That's actually a bit of fake news. I made a comment that I thought it was cool that they showed a dying plant in his apartment as a bit of characterization (he's busy!), but they interpreted that as me noticing the pink pot from the comics. I didn't. But I did track it down afterward!
Gotta turn down the music
Noted. Thanks for watching.
@@cbake76 no problem. Not being a dick haha, audio balance is rough especially when there’s so many setups. Usually voice at -6 to -12 is good and music at -20 to -30. At least from my experience.
@@bignaaasty5096 I don't even know what those numbers mean. :-)
@@cbake76 haha just the decibels. You typically across everything want voice at -6 to -12 db. And from my experience and working under experienced editors -25 to -30 db for music.
Ik it’s not the biggest deal you only post so often but occasionally it was hard to hear you or I’d have to adjust sound as I live in an apartment and it would vary. Good luck though. Picking up a ps5 for this game. Can’t wait for it to come out on pc this time
awesome video. In the part where Peter is on the window most assured that was Rio Morales. And now that i'm watching it here, in that shot where MJ's alone, i noticed that you can see someone's head downside, i think that's Peter.
Thanks, Javik! Rio...could be! I always think of her as having longer hair, especially after Spider-Verse (can't even remember how long it was in the Miles game, not that it really matters). Cool observations!
Yeah that's definitely Rio talking to Peter in her apartment window. Her hair is the same as it was in Miles Morales, so I'm pretty sure of that
@@cbake76 yes also if you listen to what is been said at that moment you can hear that it's rio talking to peter "all miles talks about is how to be a better spiderman how to help you...GO-HELP-HIM"
October 20th, 2023
Just a few months away. Spider-Man 2 is going to be a wild ride 🕷️🕸️
Can't wait!
0:36 maybe harry came to queens to talk to pete and they decided to go see a nostalgic place from simpler times, the high school, i’d definiteley do that
Yeah, I figure it's something like that. Even if they don't explain it, it's a cool backdrop, so it's not anything to really complain about. I'd just kinda like to know. 😀
@@cbake76update: don’t have a ps5 so haven’t played the game, but on august 4th(about 2 weeks after commenting here) i went out with an old school friend. On a whim he said to visit our old school where we were classmates in primary and gymnasium. We did go on a nostalgia trip, which is pretty common, especially during or after roughers times
I'm still not used to the new face for Peter Parker. I know the voice is the same, but it still feels like a recast. It's like if Tobey Maguire for plastic surgery between Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2.
well tobey almost got recast with jake gyllenhaal for spiderman 2
Yeah and MJ's face also changed for the worse imo.
@@darkknight072 mj's face is the same
I think people also forget we've had two Rhodeys in the MCU. 😀 And they tried to fool us into thinking Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney were all the same Batman back in the '90s.
@@cbake76 also a good trick to get over the face change quickly is to start paying attention to peter's expressions because as much as the new face model can be alienating at first (it was for me i felt detached all of a sudden when they announced it) but the more i looked at it the more i started to notice something...the expressions were still familiar and not because of the reused animations they also looked familiar in miles morales which had new animations made from the ground up for the new model they looked familiar because those weren't john bubniak's expressions neither ben jordan's they were yuri lowenthal's and when i noticed that i felt again that connection to peter (goes to show the improtance yuri has in this role and how with his performance alone he can bridge and overcome a complete redesign)
Harry's Mom is Venom theory is pretty out there but totally something they would do to trick us. Plus it just shows the Osborn family is corrupted by power. Harry shooting his cane into the window could be him finding out lol. That would make me want to throw something at a wall after relising my Dad kept that from me. Good idea 💡 - Luke
I mean, I really don't think it'll be Emily, but I do think there's more to her "death" than meets the eye. Great comment, thanks!
Yeah, totally. Osborn is probably hiding something. Would like to see Big Wheel if possible. 😂