iMachining By SolidCAM. Amazing Machining (Steel)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2011
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As an old school manual machinist with just a little CNC experience,I was impressed and scared to watch this!Not scared for job security,just at the speeds/feeds currently used.I'd hate to imagine being handed that print and a B-Port,as to how long it would take me to do that,if at all,Sure as hell wouldn't be 12 minutes!Thanks for making an old man drool with "endmill envy",lol !
My cnc router cuts almost that fast.
But I'm still stuck with a Bridgeport,Clausing clone,and a 'lil 3-in-1 ;-),but I get by,some folks don't even have that.Wanting to CNC the 3-in-1,maybe someday.........
I love Imachining! I have used it on a Haas VF2, working on some Impax supreme steel. With a 10mm endmill you can go full depth and just plow through! It is super impressive!
I am glad to hear you like iMachining. Before using iMachining I never realized what a happy tool should sound like.
Thanks for the kind words. You are correct this machine is really amazing, and almost all CAM systems have "similar" strategy. I would recommend anyone looking at these strategies gets trial versions and cut metal before making a decision. I would like to mention one stand out feature of iMachining. All these videos (internal and customers)are using cutting conditions generated by iMachining's Technology Wizard. Users really love this feature.
This is high speed machining. The software creates toolpaths which are trochoidal (tiny loops) assuring the tool always engages at small increments to minimize load. The small radial engagement permits using chip thinning techniques. Often, no coolant is used, just a powerful air blast aimed at the tool.
Nice demo. The acc/dec for that mill is impressive.
this is awesome ive never seen any cutter cut so deep so fast and not turn blue without slurry
This type of tool path is not damaging machines. It just running them correctly and to the full capabilities.
Thank you! Other "similar" tool paths are offset driven with many retracts and positioning moves. iMachining varies the width of cut to keep the tool in contact with the material to reduce positioning.
looks incredible would love to see it live
seems like all that jerk from the tiny xy moves when it gets into corners would cause extra wear on the machine. could be wrong but damn that is crazy to accelerate that much weight that quickly
You're right. The reason this never caught on is because after about two weeks of this job your machines ball screws would be absolutely knackered.
@@johnhiller5337 no, not true.
@@kabeladel4530 if you say so
The machine is a Müga German made. The machine has very good acceleration. I was talking to an iMachining user a few weeks back and we talked about the RUclips videos. I tell users you don't have to machine like the RUclips videos but they show what is possible and how the cutting should look and sound. I mentioned this video and he thought this video was sped up. It is not :)
THIS IS AMAZING HOW THE CHOOSE THE SHORT WAY AND THE FAST ONE /
I LOVE SOLIDCAM
I'm using this strategy in my shop but much slower . Thay do this to impress us , by video , but in real time and word you can not doing that all the time . I can just imagine the condition of this CNC machine if you will run like that for mabe 12-14 hours every day and like this a few years . Try and will see what will happen with machine . The optimum is in the middle . But using this strategy will save a lot of programming time and is very nice if you can find some good parametars to save your machine and decrease cycle time . And also depend of materials , what you machining . A 6-7 years ago I did machine a tons of Aluminum ( T-6061) and did use YG1 half inch 3 flute cutter and doing that with one cutter for a weeks some time even 3 month . Now I'm doing S7 ( tool steel) and that is totaly different world .
You can do a very similar toolpath using Delcam's Powermill. Also keep in mind that the machine as a lot to do with it. The machine in this video doesn't starve for information and it must have a really advanced look-ahead.
Is this presented in real-time? If so, then I'm seeing servo reversal speeds like never before. I've never seen anything like this before and I've been around machine shops (including my own) for over 40 years. I'd like to see the servos and servo drive amplifiers for the machine used in this presentation. Either way ... it's mesmerizing to watch. I've viewed it several times. Thanks for posting. gmeast
These rapids seem like 120 000mm/min+
Really ... AMAZING!!!
I LOVE CNC MACHNING!!
I have to keep reminding myself, that this is in GODDAMN STEEL!!
Yea all these noobs show their moves in alu this master dances in steel
I forgot to mention...Amazing video and cutting strategy.
Hi... How strong is this spindel and how much rpm are you millingon at first stage in first part of the video here?
What are the feeds and speeds used, and the ae/ap? Plus what are the material and tooling?
Hi!
It's amazing!
Can you give me the technology parameters?
Which kind of machine, tool type, feeed rate etc.
Thx
What kind of tools are used in iMachining ? Anyone know the manufacuters of the tools which are possible to get in Europe (Slovenia). I tried with normal solid carbid endmills but it doesnt last for long.
how did you erase the line at 2:49 ? is there command for this at solidcam?
The ballscrews will be ok, this is relatively slow. I have ran mag fadals at over 400 ipm in steel on a regular basis with no problems. The cutter path is awesome. This is the future of machining.
Beautiful, Christ is wonderful by given human such knowledge.
Currently Rough, Rest, and Finish are separate operations in the CAM system. One operation was used of each with multiple pockets in the geometry list. If cycle time is a concern, you could make a rough operation for 1 pocket followed by the rest then the finish. Do that for each pocket. This would give more efficient ordering. We have plans to improve this functionality.
That is a really big slice of 80/20 now haha.
sure that's cool and all, but what the finish look like, and how close tolerances?
What type of endmill used in it and what material endmill that
i love solidcam
The material is steel which becomes magnetic being milled. That may explain odd behavior of the chips. Other than that, don't you see the air blower attached next to the tool? Air makes stuff jump.
What is the machining center? That must have a super fast control to keep up with all of those movements and IPM changes,.
holly shit ,that really is a bad ass machine. nice job.
Was the last bit used called a breaking bit?
what machine was this run on? judging by the high spindle speeds and rediculously high feed rates Im seeing, this must be a very expensive and capable machine
Like it , nice video :)
Virtrampage how would you machine this part??? this is pretty impressive!
I WANT TO ASK YOU IN THE I MACHINING WORK TYPE THE SHORTAGE AND THE FASTEST WAY WILL GET ,BUT WHAT ABOUT THE TOOLS ? WITH SMALL ONE
The table feeds of this machine is increbible.. Is it accurate at this small and very fast movements?
Thats what the old conventional machinists said when Mastercam came out. I learned it and made more $ than I could have as a conventional machinist. If we didn't embrace technology we would all be driving Model T Fords and have no running water in our houses
On this type of videos the machine info and tools should be present.
Why? If you're a machinist you could figure it out, if you're not a machinist then you aren't going to make use of that information anyway. The machine is a 3 axis vertical mill and the tool looks like a 4 flute TiN coated solid carbide center cutting endmill. If I had to guess, to achieve this speed you want to run about 800 sfm with a load of .006 per tooth and probably about a 8-10% (of tool diameter) step over.
millakilla Good info..! And sure... useless for a E&I technician like me...hahaha..! Btw, any idea of what the part could be for..? Or it could be just a demo piece?
Whats the name of this machine ? This accelerations are crazy
This is sexy , these mills sound so happy :-) Im using imachining too and its pretty good
Can someone tell me how much is F and S on this process???This is MAHO DECKEL machine and SolidCAM right?
So what's exactly wrong with the tool path?
Have you tried iMachining in 5axis simultan. ? I dont even know if there is something like that^^. We get a new machine this week for 5x sim. and im curious :-)
Brilliant
WHAT MACHINE IS THAT? Amazing control! Simply awesome....In response to varelaarcadio4 , machine damage is more likely to occur with unbalanced tool pressures and machine loads. The speed the machine travels at has nothing to due with damage to it. Note the tool diameters. You are not going to damage a machine that can do this kind of work with 12mm and 6mm tools running at those speeds, loads and coatings. The part material stands no chance at all....Amazing!
Who selects the cutting tools with this software? The user, or the software? How much authority does the software have over forcing efficient and optimized selection of tooling?
really nice work,i use mastercam x6 dynamic milling for things like this,but the toolpath in this video obviously more powerful and efficient
i've seen another video doing the similar workpiece,with Mori Seiki NV5000 machine
and Garant tools(Hoffmann Group)
the title of the video is "I-Machining Vorführteil Hoffmann Göppingen"
that video is much more impressive!
Did you just machine a part in dry run mode? I have witnessed the glory..
Welche Maschine ist das?
what Type of Maschine is it?
The first was Surfcam, and the other only try it ;)
impressive
Is it accurate? Most NC machines can have the speed or rapid turned up to look impressive.
And what is manufacturer of the tool which is used in this process??
What steel exactly?
Konsa tool use hua he
can any one tell me how to calculate RPM and feed and D.O.C.
thanx
I want the machine and the tools
CTX gamma by DMG can do a LOT more, considering axis, and complex part machining, this part is simple, and u need average machine for horisontal milling, complex part is different, requires a LOT more movements... i know that this isnt a lathe, but price is everything.
Yes, you are correct. I was wrong. This is ball screw machine.
What is the name of tools? Mitsubishi, seco...?? what?? :)
mechining ka feed or rpm kitna he
5:02 star wars song :D
Cutting data, machine model pls.
WOW!!!
Please point us all to some videos showing this same tool path using VoluMill. If you would like I can send you the solid model of this part for a direct comparison.
We have since added better sorting for this situation.
Actually it's much better for the cutter. Because of stable temperature, if coolant is used it means the cutter will be hot and cold many times thus you break the cutter from thermal shock. Best lubrication for the cutter is MQL(Minimum quantity lubrication).
This does not applies for all workpiece materials.
even if this machine had linear motors they are attached with screws and internal components so on this kind of machining will in no uncertain terms damage the machine over time. All materials have a fatigue limit why speed up its failure.
after this demo you can buy this machine for 30% discount
I would have to agree with you. iMachining was very nice and easy to use but I felt like it was very hard on my machine. This videos is older but I was using the 2014 version of solidcam. I have since switched to NX with the volumill addon and have had great results. I must admit that the roughing process seems to be a little bit slower but my machine sounds better and my tools are lasting a LOT longer. Furthermore NX has become a lot more user friendly over the years. Just my 2 cents.
The load on your machine is almost none when you are trochoidal milling. you will do a lot more damage to your bearings and ways by maxing out your spindle load than by using HSM tool paths. Also tools last longer when the chip load is normalized.
We have since added better sorting in this situation.
Is the perimeter being climb milled?
+Steven James Yes
+DeathTrooperA001 Why?
+Steven James the tool path is clockwise around the part
it was a good video but I'd like to see what your just milled out showing it's purpose
those are some really bizzare movements,
Cant believe the cutter survived wo coolant.
that was pretty fuckin cool, thats all i have to say.
@varelaarcadio4 Actually iMachining makes sure the machine live longer!
Is true , but making a path like this in Solid Cam is realy easy and fast. Rough,Rest, and finish the program calculate the fast tool path and make it, and the best is the program calculate the speed for each tool.
does that not beat the shit of the ball screws running that machine like that?
Looks like someone needs to do a tap test. There is some chatter on the bottom edge of the cuts
Holex (by Hoffmann group)
Volumill is not the same technology, iMachining is another world.
Please, take more information about it
Air blowing
Because this machine has linear motors not ball screws :)
The Müga machines has ballscrews.
DATRON?
sure not!
Is the new, and u cant fight with this
This is not sped up. Actual time.
yeah Jimmy tell em... lmao
Milling mch on steroids
I dont know what the hell everyones talking about it looks great for certain things
not real time
video was sped up
I do this live....
many other CAM programs can create this tool path
they buy the strategy of VoluMill!!
They call it something else
Peps - Camtek can do it
Mastercam can do it
One Cnc can do it
Hypermill can do it
Delcam can do it ........
Goelan can do it
Reading the comments for this video is like bashing your head against a wall. The last excuse for armchair machinists' refusal to machine aggressively is always that the "ballscrews" and "servos" wear out. Even when watching a video of a machine that doesn't have them.
I disagree. Take a look at the small tool towards the end of the video. If you take the same speed, feed, depth and full slot the tool will brake. What the CAM system is doing is accurately controlling the load on the tool during the cut allowing for high material removal rates. If you can provide a similar example without a CAM system please do so.
MasterCAM does not buy the strategy of VoluMIll. They invested and built their own strategy. (it's much better than VoluMill)