When you first meet her “and I have never known defeat” almost every player’s response is “until now” After a few hours, the response tends to be “yeah I can see why”
Everyone: "Malenia is the hardest boss in Elden Ring." Replies in this comment section: "I beat her bare handed, underlevelled and blindfolded.. super easy, i don't know why everyone says she's difficult."
@@IchorColdBlood Bro, using the mechanics and abilities the game gives you doesnt make you dogshit. Don't listen to those Souls purists that think having ANY sort of aid in these games makes you trash! Play your own way brother 🤜🤛
Mind you, this is the person Radahn fought to a standstill. She had to be carried all the way back to the Haligtree by one of her knights. Which goes to show what a giga chad Radahn was in his prime.
Radahn technically didnt even get downed by the scarlet rott bomb. Couldnt be killed or even signifigantly damaged by it (physically speaking) If she had tried to continue fighting him in his deranged madness she would have for sure died. She had to be carried away from Caelid while Radahn just continues to rampage around. Albeit obviously he's insane now. But still, having to drive him mad just to not completely lose and still having to retreat and be carried all the way north and having to sleep to recover for who knows how long while Radahn still couldnt be put down is insane. He really is the most powerful. The madness thing is unfortunately just a magical chemical bio-self destruct attack. Melania herself was affected by it. And at point blank it couldnt kill Radahn or stop him. Just drive him insane as the only way to get around his excessive power
Fought this boss for about 2 days straight, filled out a job application hours after 100 or so odd attempts and the interviewer called and asked “ Hello is this Mr. Malenia, Blade of Miquella? “
There’s actually some lore in this fight that’s kinda important. It’s hard to tell, but if you listen closely, you’ll be able to hear it. She says a very interesting line that explains a lot of the elden ring lore. Here, I’ll just explain everything she says You see, her name is Malenia the Blade of Miquella, and she’s never known defeat. Along with that, it is very important that you know that your flesh will be consumed by the scarlet rot
This is the most reactive I’ve ever seen Charlie be in a boss fight. Usually he keeps cool and calm even into 20 attempts but that really shows how fucking insane Melenia is to break Charlie’s sanity
@@QuantumFeldspar Running backwards for the first part, dodging into the next two parts, then dodging away from the final part is the most consistent way without bloodhound step.
The moment i beat her phase one, only to be greeted by a cutscene and another full bar of health, is the moment i truly understand why people say she's "the hardest boss"
midir has fucking nothing on her man. i'd rather do midir sl1 than this boss. I think i might switch to doing that now just so I feel good at souls games again
Malenia is an amazingly ridiculous boss. You have to parry her 3 times before she staggers. She heals on hit and on block. She can apply scarlet rot (although you'll probably die before it applies). Obscene damage. Your best bet is to ditch any shield and learn to roll well or parry like a god because she won't stagger on every hit. Quite the boss
Yeah I've been cheesing most bosses through the game with the 5 tower shield guy ashes because they are basically immune to damage and keep aggro. Can't do that with Malenia, she just stays at full health from all the blocked hits lol.
She stumbles from every jump hit if it's a katana or anything heavier. Staggers harder than Morgott and is possible to knockdown like a NPC/player. Of course, this applies mostly to phase 1. Phase 2, she just has a little bit more poise
"The mark... of a True Lord..." says Malenia. Cr1tical: " I got really lucky on that rotation, she didn't do the giant combo. I think that was round 31 or 33."
@@KratosisGod ikr, my bro tried to show me that you can dodge waterfowl and apparently I just have terrible rng bc she did it so much more often on my save than his
Well fought by Charlie. Me personally though, I beat her on the first try, blindfolded, with the controller turned off, as a level 1 wretch with no buffs and a club, while performing open heart surgery. Soldier of Gorick though, has had me stuck for 32 days. Hope I can eventually beat him. Currently level 713 with + 10 moonveil, +25 cold uchigatana and +10 mimic tear. I still haven’t landed a hit on him though. He’s been whooping my ass. Charlies gonna be in a for a rude awakening when he faces him.
try rivers of blood as replacement for moonveil after nerf and tiche the blackknife assassin as summon and you might win against that monstrosity of a bossfight. I think soldier of godrick is the son of sister friede and orphan of kos who was teached in the ways of the sword by isshin the swordsaint
I really love Malenia's characters design. How her hair is mended into her wings with the butterflies and leaves, she is one of my favorite souls bosses. Her design is very beautiful.
@@guywilliems6578 A pixel perfect method of avoiding it is too punishing to be called consistent. Annoyingly, it also does a huge amount of damage and regen to any spirits you summon, since they cant dodge any of the attacks.
@@thegreatfitzgerald2660 there is actually the way just use bloodhound step then you good to go, & the perfect summon spirit for her was the black knife assassins, it took me 5 tries & it works really well ... even tough her waterflow attack is still bs tough but her character design is amazing
Edit: I made a mistake. Vergil's actor did voice work for DSII. Dante's actor was a motion capture producer on the game. Earlier text below to be preserved for later. Vergil's actor did some motion capture for Dark Souls II. With how FromSoftware reuses animations, it's quite plausible that some of those are found in Elden Ring in some capacity.
@@DS_DoggerX @DoggerX Correction: Southworth did voice work for Dark Souls II. IMDB doesn't list a specific character, but in an interview he mentioned voicing a dragon without specifying which title it was is, so it may have been the Ancient Dragon. Reuben Langdon (Dante) was the motion capture producer from Just Cause Productions for the game. The stunts were done by Roberto Gutierrez and Lauren Mary Kim.
I have never raged at a From boss as hard as I have raged over Malenia. It took me something like 60 tries to finally take down Orphan and the entire time I was studying him like it's the week before finals. On Gael, I was quiet as a mouse, and calm af save for my shaking hands when I entered the last third of his health bar. But Malenia had me slamming my fist down and shouting at the screen. I have never been so enraged by a video game in my life. I felt like crap, like I was some kind of demon-possessed weirdo or something. But, seeing Charlie fidget around in his chair and visibly lose his cool when almost every boss I have seen him play didn't do a thing, I suddenly don't feel so bad for losing it.
It's because it was a badly designed boss. Every other boss when you got hit you was like "oh that's why, yeah that's my fault I was greedy, I rolled wrong etc. and you gradually improved" this fight is like "cool, so she has opening but the opening may not be an opening depending on what she chooses to do next and sometimes she does stagger but sometimes she doesn't". There's only 1 attack (the slam down) that has an actual opening so your basically forced to attack knowing you might be hit back and then on top of that those hits heal her. Much like watching this video, and many others I didn't get better at this fight, I was just waiting to get the right RNG to win, literally just trying to attack my way through and pray she picks the right moves for me to win. This fight is more RNG-Based than it is Skill-Based, which is why everyone gets mad doing it.
@@Fitsuuu I think they designed her around spirit ash summon. 1st phase solo was doable but 2nd is just disaster with blade flurry spam I summoned black knife tiche on later attempts and spam blasphemous blade skill. I won under 3-5 minutes
@@Fitsuuu I beat hear using a katana and dashes only when she does her flurry attack, and I can say it's a bad take. All her attacks can be dodged with no spirit ash if you do it the right way, but it needs research and hard work. The fact that a no hit run is possible is already a proof. Basically if you got hit is because either you didn't react fast/well enough or you just didn't find the right way. It's actually a very well designed boss because : 1) All her attacks can be dodged 2) story-telling-wise, the fact that she needs all that training is perfectly fit for someone known as "undefeated".
@@velienne1319 All no hit runs I know of are using parry, which yes you can parry her and that aleviates 99% of the problems but a boss shouldn't be designed around being parried, this isn't Sekiro. I also killed her without summons/parries but as I said it wasn't because I got better at the fight it was just "keep pulling until I get lucky with the movesets". She has got a couple punishable attacks but 80% of her attacks are 50/50 on if she'll just hyper armour into an attack mid-opening and hit you. So your left with 3 options with this boss - Roll the dice on what should be her opening and pray you get lucky. Dodge around for for 10min waiting for that 1 attack which has an actual reliable opening or or use parry/summons. None of which IMO lead to a good experience, hence I feel this is a poorly designed boss. To just flat out tell me I am not reacting "fast" enough. I would literally roll her attack, mash R1 to swing straight out of the roll then mash roll to roll straight out of the R1 and she'd start a new attack and hit me before that roll began. You can't physically go faster.
Biggest tip i learned with her and maliketh, as crazy as it sounds, roll at them when they do their sword combo if youre already too close. As you can see here, speed wise and accuracy, shes on a completely different level. So when you back up and roll, youre giving her an opening. If you roll towards them, it almost puts you behind them. Hope this sorta helps
@@ScrodumHat No need to get stubborn and try to messy dodge her extremely long combos and pray you have enough s. Just use a combination of block and dodge as needed. There is a guy that beat her with just a longsword and brass shield.
Imagine if you had to run through the area leading up to the boss after every death like other souls games. Shit would be the most painful experience ever.
@@gabrielsantana6161 I completely forgot about the rats, but the other bosses were a real pain since i've played as an undead since my first death and my health bar was less than half of what it should've been.
Dark souls 1 does this too usually, you basically make a shortcut right before ornstein and smough, you unlock an elevator inside sen’s fortress, you get a bonfire right before queelagg, most of them have either shortcuts you unlock or shortcuts you discover yourself
I had been running his swords every since I got the ability to use them but once I got to malenia I couldn’t beat her and gave into changing my whole build into a blood build and going for the black knife and mimic ashes you got my respect for beating her with those frfr
For how hard this boss was, I was surprisingly calm through the whole ordeal which was probably due to my low expectations of beating her. Most of my rage came out fighting Beast Clergyman and Mohg (specidically when he splatters the whole arena with bloodflame)
the only boss i’ve ever actually raged at in the entire game was godfrey. i beat maliketh pretty easy my 2nd try bc if summons but godfrey j kept getting me with those full arena smashes
Elden Beast was the only boss that really made me upset. NG+2 Elden Beast has made me vow to never finish this game again now that I have the platinum trophy.
New game+ even. Some in a twitch chat I was in said mimic sucked cause their build sucked. It can legit solo a boss on new game+ with Charlie's meme build haha
@@salmon3669minecraft that's bullshit lol. the only way it can solo a boss is on ng+ and that's only if it's an early one. It's really strong, but it's not THAT busted.
Me with my battlemage character: "Malenia was easy... I don't know why everyone says she's so difficult." Me with my melee character: "I'm going to need another hundred levels before I can beat this one."
Killed her in an hour and a half on my melee character using blood frost and fire. Along with mimic tear. Also I was only like level 60, since then I’ve beat the game and put my summon sign down at her entrance to help others 💯
@@mike5978 Greatsword has the upside of staggering her a lot. Her poise isn't great so you can posture break her. My problem was that I didn't have much that did huge posture damage but still had to be up in her face for most of the fight.
Took me 3 days to beat her, probably spent over 4 1/2 hours in total of straight fighting. My Xbox achievement says only 6.73% of people on Xbox have beaten her, safe to say I am satisfied. I feel like I can defeat anything and anyone now, Elden Lord here we come
@@anshuuu9708 Isshin barely an hour for me. The demon of hatred was harder. Took me 4 or so hours to beat. Malenia however took me 10 hours. Although I only used Bloodhounds Fang and was using the Carian Chestplate and Blaids legs and gloves with no helmet. I felt like I should go with this despite having the Radahn set because Malenia had a move set that I could respect heavily. Really reminded me of Sekiro with how fast she was and that insane combo made me remember Genichiro(my favorite Sekiro boss). Genichiro is to date my favorite Sekiro boss with Sekiro being one of my all time favorites.
Can't believe that Malenia beat Charlie, Lord of Dung just over 30 times. Too bad her streak ended, though, would've been cool to see her get the world record for most Lord of Dung runs
I beat her with my feet and hands tied behind my back, my eyes gouged out, and using a steering wheel instead of a controller. Shes hella easy to beat idk why everyone is labeling her "The hardest boss".
For anyone feeling bad because you spent a lot more time on this boss, the build he is playing with during this is probably the most overpowered build you could do without summons and magic. The flashstep makes her combos much easier to dodge, the duel katanas are really quick with high damage output and stagger + the bleed makes them do even more damage. The flashstep makes you able to also wear a lot more and heavier armor making her hits not hit as hard either. Clarifying to anyone who spent hours on this boss.
Yeah Charlie had the most op build in the game, and this boss is weak to it. The fact that it took him 34 tries or something is pretty telling of how ridiculous Malenia is.
yup.. to boot: one of the best weapons to abuse the fact she can be staggered (thanks to high attack speed and decent hitting power), Iframes that last an eternity, and cold AND bleed combined for the nastiest procs ever on a boss that doesn't have that much health (since she compensates by healing on hit). My one successful attemps was made with a summoned player, both of us going with bleeding. (me with a shield and pike buffed with blood as I'm a strengh build, and the otehr player with a big pair of sickles) Trying to beat her with heavy, slow weapons though... pretty sure it flat out CANNOT be done.
Radahn really isn't that hard. His attacks are easy to read, and with enough health, you can actually survive them. He's harder than a lot of Elden Ring bosses, but he doesn't even come close to Malenia. People overhype him way too much, especially since you can come back at much later levels. Malenia is ridiculously hard at all levels.
Watching Charlie fight these bosses makes me think I can do it too and motivates me to play the game and now that I have a handle of the dodge timings and just combat in general, I can’t stop playing the game. It’s so good.
I cheesed the hell out of this boss. I spammed the blasphemous blade weapon art, it constantly staggers her in phase one. I was so tired of being murdered so I said fuck it and cheesed her. And yet she still obliterated me. What a hard boss man.
How did you even hit her with it, everytime i did it she dodged it or attacked me. With mimic is a crazy cheese but without it i couldn't get a single hit in
@empreus damn that's the move i dislike the least tbh. Her other moves have insane reach which makes me think i'm at a safe distance at times when i'm not. Also her quick succession of hits (not the flurry) is dodgeable for sure but it's quite quick so it can catch you off guard. Then the flurry of course is her worst attack, can only dodge it with bloodhound step if you're not far enough (which is very far), or with a shield but she also heals if you use one, there is another way but ongbal himself said it's very hard so yeah. But yeah the fact that i literally can't hit a blasphemous blade weapon art because she dodges it still stands, i genuinely don't understand how you can hit her with it, unless of course you use a mimic tear
@@Pinocchio29Learn how to really use bloodhound step, it basically trivializes her whole fight once you learn how to evade her bullshit bc without her vampirism life steal, she’s actually a lot like Maliketh (very squishy)
This shit is giving me PTSD, this was the boss that broke me. Like 3 days trying to beat her, when I finally did I thought I was gonna cry. Never have I raged on any boss until her, I'll never fight her again in any playthrough
Personally I loved it, I didn't encounter any bosses that really made me smack my head against a wall until Malenia and a couple other end game bosses. So satisfying to finally win.
I heard "I am Malenia blade of Miquella" so many times from her . that when I finally got her I my self became malenia at the end . and my god her weapon is op .
@@slycooper2bandofthieves116 still, if you can outpace the first one you'll be fine, if you roll at the right time you'll also be fine. Or if your in a really bad scenario as long as you can take the first one you'll be fine.
@@hamboningmaster he only really was nerfed because of the power of the scarlet rot, and how it weakened him. He probably forgot a ton of Gravity magic from that, and it probably weakened his physical capabilities.
@@CleanVGC Yeah, in terms of lore, most of the demigods were nerfed. Rennala = went insane after husband left Radahn = scarlet rot go vroom vroom Rykard = victim of vore fetish Godrick = minecrafted Godfrey = lost grace I don't think Mohg and Morgott were lore-nerfed... and Malenia was born w/ the rot so she was used to it even though it took her limbs. (I think OP is talking about gameplay nerfs though... people complained about Radahn so FromSoft made him easier)
@@Attacksloth_32 That's dumb FromSoft compensating for the casuals is something I've never heard of. They have failed everyone by making the almighty badass Radahn easier.
Listening to his words, watching his movements, your definitely the calmest gamers ive seen fighting her, but at the same time, knowing this is the hardest fight in the game makes each death feel more of a learning experience then an attempt.
I figured out how to 100% dodge her large combo, at first you dodge back then dodge forward, then dodge forward again. Once she goes in the air you dodge under her then back as many times as you can and it dodges the whole thing.
I do that except, for the last fury of blades, I stand still for a bit, when she runs behind you roll away twice, and then punish with a jumping attack.
That roll attack is the most hilarious shit I've seen in ages, it's the least intimidating charge ever that literally rolls people over. I mean, just look at this guy: 20:12 Dude was probably having an epic RP session, looking out over the hill like some anime protagonist. Funniest shit is they probably saw Charlie coming, saw he didn't look as cool as them, and thought "Peh, rolling at me? Do you think you can harm me with such a paltry- OW, FUCK! What the hell? How is it doing so much dam- AGHGHGH!" Definitely a moment to be carved into a wall of granite, forever marked in history as the saddest way to go, killed by an electric roly poly.
i've been stuck on the Malenia fight for 2 days, switched to Charlie's build and killed her first try. Charlie is without a doubt the greatest gamer of the modern age.
@@xDbrad Can't you only do one ending for every playthrough tho? Because while planning on trying to get the ending achievements I couldn't fight the final boss again.
@@jatinmarcob2128 so once you beat the final boss you can quit the game, copy the folder somewhere, and do the ending, then quit the game and paste the copied folder back and it acts as a save, so as long as you do all the right quests you can do every ending in one play through
Some tips (I've noticed from fighting her. 1. 04v) (Did this solo btw.) 1.) she's got low ass poise, go ham and stagger her. Tactical staggering. 👌 Can even interrupt her sometimes. 2.) Any melee weapon that has long range or a long ash of war range, go in there and start bashing when she just starts walking and staring at you. Remember, she got low ass poise. You can put some combo moves out there. 3.) Her waterfowl dance... I ain't no veteran, so just Bloodhound step it. You'll figure it out. 4.) know that she is the one and only Malenia, blade of Miquella. 5.) Also when you get to the boss for the very first time, after the cut scene, have your finger at the ready at the dodge button. Because she, after the cut scene, immediately attacks you. It's fcking quick as well.
Some more tips For her first attack in phase 2, wait for her to slightly hover up, then dodge. You know once you see it. To dodge waterfowl, just as far as you can and then roll into her once she tries her 3rd wave of attacks. You can also predict when she'll use it. She will usually use it once she gets to 3/4 health so try and create distance when you are approaching that. She will also slow down how long her attacks go for. So if she does 1-3 attacks and then goes back to idle a couple of times, expect she will most likely use Water Fowl sometime soon. Take breaks if you get a bit too heated. Take some time off to reflect on what you are doing wrong and how to fix it. Once you are mad, you will only do worse and have a worse time. Change your loadout. I used a sword and shield for most of my playthrough but I abandoned the shield for this fight. I also changed a lot of my tailsmens to see what one gave me more defense or did more attack. BEST TIP: Do not get mad. Think that every attack CAN be dodged and that none are unfair. If you just accept that this is the hardest boss that FS has made, you'll have a lot more fun than frustrating.
Malenia has a 8,3% trophy acquirance at the ps5. I did think, too, it was the hardest boss by far. Required me to up my soul level about 50 levels to finally beat it after over 80 trys
@@anthonymorales5815 You can simply respec to like 30 END, throw on heavy ass armor and a weapon with Hoarfrost Stomp, summon your mimic and pray she doesn't use her anime move. Should be pretty easy sailing for the most part perma staggering her with Hoarfrost and the disgusting Frost proc %hp damage Edit: call it cheese, call it strategy, some people just don't care enough and simply want the soul
@empreus Grow up. She didn’t take me that long either, but I can understand that everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. A boss that might seem easy to you can be hard for someone else. That’s what’s amazing about souls games. Everyone has a different experience. Don’t make other people feel bad about having a hard time with her.
@empreus Oh thats why. Every boss in the game is easy if you use rotting breath, even the godskin duo, malekith, and the one before the last boss. Godskin duo is justified since thats literally an unfair ass fight. Shits gay.
Another favourite of mine: “Says doesn’t use summons but uses estoc” “What is this weird gatekeeping? What did you use, nothing but a frying pan? What are you talking about? I really like the souls community but it’s the weird fucking twitch viewers that gatekeep like you’re not allowed to use a useful weapon. It makes no fucking sense”
I was summoned for malenia and the person who summoned me was spamming the laser beam on the night and flame sword, stun locking her because she was knocked by it. Suffice to say she died easily
Yeah she's not that hard, just really punishing if you didn't build right. She's a dps check, she has a smaller health pool than most bosses but can heal on hit. If you didn't balance your damage with your tank stats you're gonna get your shit pushed in.
I've been in a LOT of other people's games where they used that stray, sometimes even two of them were using it, but not a single one beat her, she either dodged or the sword wasn't upgraded enough to actually hurt her. There was only 2 games where they did a good amount of damage but they neither had enough health to survive the grab attack.
That's kinda the feeling I've been having with a lot of Elden Ring bosses, no satisfaction just frustration. Instead of being like "wow that boss was amazing" it's "I'm glad that bullshit is over. I never want to fight that thing again."
I used Cleanrot Knight Finlay, had to use a summon in the end just couldn’t survive her second phase. Finlay was very fitting for the job and he’s a tank
If anyone's struggling with the flurry, waterfowl dance, run away from the first (two if you're far enough), and dodge into her on the 3rd. You can somewhat bait it, if you stand close enough for her to use it (about 10m) but not close enough that you can't get away, she'll usually use it at 25% intervals (or at least unlocks it) ESPECIALLY when getting up from a stagger.
I actually found dodging INTO her last two flurries very helpful. I would run away from the first one and dodge away with flash step and then get hit a bit but then dodge into her last two flurries with no damage with it.
@@darksteelmenace595 lmao, if you bait her into using it it's almost guaranteed (at least in my 100 deaths fighting her) that she won't use it again for a minute or two, so you can with more confidence stay close. It's good if you need some control, like keeping that distance so you can see her jump up and just book it.
it must be really hard to figure out the grace lines on your map, they literally point towards important bosses/areas. I played through this game completely blind and had no issues with finding where to go at all.
@@arthoormoorgen9492 Honestly, fair enough. I did manage to get the moonlight quest done blind, but I think I missed some other big ones. They should have done a journal for the open world part
@@arthoormoorgen9492 That is what i ment, you literally can skip so much without even knowing. There is no way someone can do EVERYTHING blindly in the first playthrough
I got to her way underleveled and my ego wouldn't allow me to retreat so that was 5 hours and probably days of my life cut short but I won, my win with my + 19 bastard sword!
It better be game of the year or imma riot. No open world game or any game this year has had as much care and content as this game. The amount of exploration, customization and replay ability is unparalleled
For my second playthrough (still ongoing) I committed to not using Summons unless absolutely necessary. After several dozen deaths to Malenia I cracked and went for the Mimic. Honestly, pretty useless, since she heals off of it. So eventually I just abandoned that idea and (finally) beat her. It was brutal.
3:22 It is only because of that move that makes her difficult. If Malenia didnt have that move, after like 10-15 attempts, most people would be able to beat her
I think a good tip for people who are having a hard time dodging her Waterfowl Dance is to have a shield in your left hand, and when she’s about to do that move, double-hand the shield. You negate the damage taken, and because the shield is two-handed, it doesn’t take up too much stamina to block it. Just block the first combo, dodge the second one, then block the third one to conserve stamina so your guard doesn’t get broken.
Took me over 100 attempts to beat her without summons or any cheese. I wasnt even using Bleed either, just straight up beat the shit outta her. Hardest boss in Elden ring in my opinion, after you beat her nothing compares.
Had 2 first good solo attempts, brought her very low in phase 1 both times Decided to use the mimic for the third one Poor thing died immediately, I had like 10 or 9 estus left Mimic is a bit strong
I loved that boss. She was really difficult and definitely took me the longest to beat out of any boss I fought in any souls game. But it was mostly my fault. I never learned from what she did and just kept doing the same stuff. It took me three and a half hours
Bruh almost beat her on 10th try because i had some good rng with the flurry attack then every run afterwards she would troll me and use it in the worst times. Then 4 hours in she jumped and did the attack right before she was going to be killed.
@@lilzp9106 the struggle is real haha. I had her down to one hit left a few times before beating her. Got really greedy and paid the price. Man it felt good to finally beat her though
@@HuevosAzules I thought I was bad at it too(dark souls and blood borne veteran, love parrying in all of them) until I realized you want to parry the arm/hand in elden ring. Don’t parry the weapon.
Souls fans try not to get mad when streamer doesn't beat Malenia at RL1, no ashes of war, no spells, no armor, no dodging, and no bitches challenge (impossible)
The only real hard part about Malenia is that flurry attack The time I first beat her she never used the flurry attack And then on new game + 2 I beat her again when she never used the flurry attack
@@AJ_Ol Well it is possible to dodge it without getting hit once(I think there's a RUclips video about it) but yeah it does look pretty RNG without outside help(YT videos or other media)
@@ihavenolife1295 what you do is start running away asoon as she's gets up in the air, then after the 2nd wave of slashes, unlock off her and roll towards her direction she was coming from
"Melee only" actually makes this fight easier. She's often too fast to properly punish her with spells, a pure melee build will allow you to use good weapons to interrupt her and you'll likely have more HP and heals.
As with any boss, there's a few ways to cheese. If anyone's having trouble, here's one way: Fingerprint Greatshield and Greatshield Talisman can reach 100 guard boost; her grab and the flower are the only attacks that can get through. She'll heal, but with any decent weapon and regular attacks, not as quickly as you're damaging her.
Another good one if you have the stats for it and don't care about summons: Blasphemous Blade on mimic. Rivers of Blood for yourself. Mimic can spam the ash of war for BB, which knocks her over almost every time. Then you can come in with RoB and deal massive bleed damage without retaliation.
He got so lucky in the end when I fight her she just spams her wombo ultra slash triple combo over and over and in second phase if you fuck up the spacing/dodge even slightly its instant death.
I’m always really shocked when people who have Charlie’s audience size are using an AT2020 or a Blue Yeti lol Edit: to clarify there’s nothing wrong with it I’m just surprised when they aren’t using fancier stuff
Nothing quite like hearing "I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella" 500 times in a single day
Guys My parents said if I get 10k Likes on my *"Easy on Me"* Cover, Theyd buy me a better camera for recording, begging you guys, literally begging..
somehow it's 1000 times more irritating than "Hesitation is defeat"
and watching every cooperator die to same attack
@@MbitaChizi Word of advice don’t ever beg anyone for anything.
@@smoke14PB It’s just another fucking bot
When you first meet her “and I have never known defeat” almost every player’s response is “until now”
After a few hours, the response tends to be “yeah I can see why”
I personaly said "let me introduce you"
Guys My parents said if I get 10k Likes on my *"Easy on Me"* Cover, Theyd buy me a better camera for recording, begging you guys, literally begging..
Well, the Souls series has beaten me down a lot so my response was “I’ll beat you, but your win totals are gonna be inflated by beating me a lot”
In my head I said "there's a first for everything" then I proceeded to get my ass handed to me
I saw a video of a streamer saying exactly that and got one-shotted from the get go lol
Everyone: "Malenia is the hardest boss in Elden Ring."
Replies in this comment section: "I beat her bare handed, underlevelled and blindfolded.. super easy, i don't know why everyone says she's difficult."
Yeah major cap, people love talking their shit though
You used your hands? Might as well have used spirit ashes and sorcery
@@IchorColdBlood Bro, using the mechanics and abilities the game gives you doesnt make you dogshit. Don't listen to those Souls purists that think having ANY sort of aid in these games makes you trash! Play your own way brother 🤜🤛
im trying so hard to fight the urge to cheese her, i wanna beat this boss legitimately but she is a fucking problem
@@specifikmc So true.
Important to note, he fought Radahn underleveled, meanwhile he fought Malenia after finishing the game.
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Definitely shows. He has way easier time than I did with her. She has to land way more to do some damage.
You knows he big bias person right
Charlie cheesed radahn
He used help to defeat radahn
Mind you, this is the person Radahn fought to a standstill. She had to be carried all the way back to the Haligtree by one of her knights. Which goes to show what a giga chad Radahn was in his prime.
also dragon lord placidusax had 4-5 heads in his prime. probably the most insane boss lore wise
Before you know, he abused the freak outta that horse
Radahn technically didnt even get downed by the scarlet rott bomb. Couldnt be killed or even signifigantly damaged by it (physically speaking)
If she had tried to continue fighting him in his deranged madness she would have for sure died. She had to be carried away from Caelid while Radahn just continues to rampage around. Albeit obviously he's insane now.
But still, having to drive him mad just to not completely lose and still having to retreat and be carried all the way north and having to sleep to recover for who knows how long while Radahn still couldnt be put down is insane.
He really is the most powerful. The madness thing is unfortunately just a magical chemical bio-self destruct attack. Melania herself was affected by it. And at point blank it couldnt kill Radahn or stop him. Just drive him insane as the only way to get around his excessive power
@@DDDff400 didnt he learn gravitational magic specifically so he could ride his horse into battle?
@@toothclon yes. Then like strange. He mastered the fuck out of it just to say "fuck your cheese."
Fought this boss for about 2 days straight, filled out a job application hours after 100 or so odd attempts and the interviewer called and asked “ Hello is this Mr. Malenia, Blade of Miquella? “
underrated
Sick one bruv
Only took me an hour and a half at like level 60 but nice man
HELPPP LMAOO
@@libertyprime2852 SHIT BAIT IS SHIT
This is showing Malenia, proving he hasn’t yet beat the hardest boss in the game, Soldier of Godrick.
Few have lol. You should check out doodhandvlee he kills soldier of godrick no roll no hit level 1 fists only
wrong, the mfers with just a regular torch are unrivaled
@@kingdrool thats facts
You mean Soldier of God, rick
@@conde3915 Of course. My mistake. Such a fool I was, throwing dirt at the name of the hardest challenge in video gaming.
There’s actually some lore in this fight that’s kinda important. It’s hard to tell, but if you listen closely, you’ll be able to hear it. She says a very interesting line that explains a lot of the elden ring lore. Here, I’ll just explain everything she says
You see, her name is Malenia the Blade of Miquella, and she’s never known defeat. Along with that, it is very important that you know that your flesh will be consumed by the scarlet rot
WE KNOW DAMN
Oh wow, I didn't catch that.
She's trash tier compared to the Valkyrie Queen Sigrún in God Of War.
Putting Vatti to shame out here sheeeeesh
@@pl3459 What's ur build?
This is the most reactive I’ve ever seen Charlie be in a boss fight. Usually he keeps cool and calm even into 20 attempts but that really shows how fucking insane Melenia is to break Charlie’s sanity
Poetic isnt it?
🏃🏾♂️
I think something about a boss that heals from hitting you auto-tilts most souls players
@@lilmeatball4404 Also the boss having an effectively undodgeable move lmao
@@Txx00xic it is dodgeable?
@@QuantumFeldspar Running backwards for the first part, dodging into the next two parts, then dodging away from the final part is the most consistent way without bloodhound step.
Fighting this boss, you will learn two things
1. Her name is Malenia
2. She's the blade of Miquella
To beat her is also two steps
1.Git
2.Gud
She's never known defeat
By the Scarlet Rot
@@D3ViiNG
3. Use Mimic Tear
4. Or Scarlet Rot
5. Or Bleed
@@wr5488 mimic heals her a fuck ton and pretty sure she’s immune to rot
The moment i beat her phase one, only to be greeted by a cutscene and another full bar of health, is the moment i truly understand why people say she's "the hardest boss"
midir has fucking nothing on her man. i'd rather do midir sl1 than this boss. I think i might switch to doing that now just so I feel good at souls games again
@@jooot_6850 at least all of his attacks are fair for the most part.
@@Red-nl4lk that's what im sayin! you can learn and dodge them!
@@jooot_6850 Agreed…Midir was actually doable after about 30 tries. This bitch is just straight up insanity
Never before have so many souls been crushed by the utterance of a single word, "wait".
"Imagine if I beat her first try"
No Charlie, that's not how it works
Yea lol this isn’t a boss you’d get lucky on and win first try either, you must learn
I beat her first try but with me and my mimic spamming nihil
@@zigzag3720 summons are easy mode though
@@Itamar536. well thats like your opinion man
@@zigzag3720 not an opinion 🤷🏿♂️
Malenia: “And I’ve never known defeat.”
*gets hit by the 1000 hit flurry combo*
Oh, that’s why.
more insta-kill than death blight buildup
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@@MbitaChizi i hope they buy u it and u accidentally break it no one cares
Funny she said that after needing to be carried back after failing to kill Radahn lol
1000 hitcombo when she performs a single action.
Malenia is an amazingly ridiculous boss. You have to parry her 3 times before she staggers. She heals on hit and on block. She can apply scarlet rot (although you'll probably die before it applies). Obscene damage. Your best bet is to ditch any shield and learn to roll well or parry like a god because she won't stagger on every hit. Quite the boss
Malekith also only staggers from 3 parries. Him and Malenia are hard but fun bosses
Yeah I've been cheesing most bosses through the game with the 5 tower shield guy ashes because they are basically immune to damage and keep aggro. Can't do that with Malenia, she just stays at full health from all the blocked hits lol.
Who parries in the souls games lol
She stumbles from every jump hit if it's a katana or anything heavier. Staggers harder than Morgott and is possible to knockdown like a NPC/player. Of course, this applies mostly to phase 1. Phase 2, she just has a little bit more poise
@@modernwarhero8447 parrying in this game is actually a great tactic, most bosses you can parry
"The mark... of a True Lord..." says Malenia. Cr1tical: " I got really lucky on that rotation, she didn't do the giant combo. I think that was round 31 or 33."
The mark of a True Lord is good RNG thank you fromsoft very cool
@@jooot_6850 Ngl this boss requires good RNG cause sometimes she goes down easy and other times she just keeps spamming stupid grabs and anime slashes
@@KratosisGod ikr, my bro tried to show me that you can dodge waterfowl and apparently I just have terrible rng bc she did it so much more often on my save than his
@@ozyssah at least it's dodgeable, still pretty tedious to have to learn how to cuz it's a one shot if you don't
@@minitech5238 yeah I had to dodge it twice in my final victory run, and that felt so satisfying
Well fought by Charlie. Me personally though, I beat her on the first try, blindfolded, with the controller turned off, as a level 1 wretch with no buffs and a club, while performing open heart surgery. Soldier of Gorick though, has had me stuck for 32 days. Hope I can eventually beat him. Currently level 713 with + 10 moonveil, +25 cold uchigatana and +10 mimic tear. I still haven’t landed a hit on him though. He’s been whooping my ass. Charlies gonna be in a for a rude awakening when he faces him.
try rivers of blood as replacement for moonveil after nerf and tiche the blackknife assassin as summon and you might win against that monstrosity of a bossfight. I think soldier of godrick is the son of sister friede and orphan of kos who was teached in the ways of the sword by isshin the swordsaint
fr. Soldier of Godrick once killed me when I wasn't even in his arena.
Video or it didn’t happen.
@@KingCasual1986 your dense
@@Yul_B_Awrightafter countless hours of research into the bible of blades I can confirm that isshin was trained by soldier of godrick.
I really love Malenia's characters design. How her hair is mended into her wings with the butterflies and leaves, she is one of my favorite souls bosses. Her design is very beautiful.
The wirlwhind attack is badly designed, since there is no consistent way to dodge it, but shes pretty interesting as a boss aside from that.
@@thegreatfitzgerald2660 On the contrary, there is a youtube video that shows how to dodge it consistently
@@guywilliems6578 A pixel perfect method of avoiding it is too punishing to be called consistent.
Annoyingly, it also does a huge amount of damage and regen to any spirits you summon, since they cant dodge any of the attacks.
@@thegreatfitzgerald2660 there is actually the way just use bloodhound step then you good to go, & the perfect summon spirit for her was the black knife assassins, it took me 5 tries & it works really well ... even tough her waterflow attack is still bs tough but her character design is amazing
Yeah especially the second phase. I had hard times to focus on the battle
I fought malenia literally over 200 times in the span of a day and beat her twice , definitely not an overstatement to call her the hardest boss :(
its not a mistake its a masterpiece!
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and then there's this guy that beat her as lvl 1 wretch with a buckler and a stick while taking no damage
@@yes7352 don't feed the troll
46 times on my first try for malenia and that was with tear summon she legit a bad bitch.
Her Weapon Art makes you feel like the NPCs going up against Vergil in a DMC game
Edit: I made a mistake. Vergil's actor did voice work for DSII. Dante's actor was a motion capture producer on the game. Earlier text below to be preserved for later.
Vergil's actor did some motion capture for Dark Souls II. With how FromSoftware reuses animations, it's quite plausible that some of those are found in Elden Ring in some capacity.
@@OrigamiPhoenix I love Dan Southworth but come on man no way he did that
@@DS_DoggerX @DoggerX Correction: Southworth did voice work for Dark Souls II. IMDB doesn't list a specific character, but in an interview he mentioned voicing a dragon without specifying which title it was is, so it may have been the Ancient Dragon.
Reuben Langdon (Dante) was the motion capture producer from Just Cause Productions for the game.
The stunts were done by Roberto Gutierrez and Lauren Mary Kim.
I have never raged at a From boss as hard as I have raged over Malenia. It took me something like 60 tries to finally take down Orphan and the entire time I was studying him like it's the week before finals. On Gael, I was quiet as a mouse, and calm af save for my shaking hands when I entered the last third of his health bar. But Malenia had me slamming my fist down and shouting at the screen. I have never been so enraged by a video game in my life. I felt like crap, like I was some kind of demon-possessed weirdo or something. But, seeing Charlie fidget around in his chair and visibly lose his cool when almost every boss I have seen him play didn't do a thing, I suddenly don't feel so bad for losing it.
It's because it was a badly designed boss. Every other boss when you got hit you was like "oh that's why, yeah that's my fault I was greedy, I rolled wrong etc. and you gradually improved" this fight is like "cool, so she has opening but the opening may not be an opening depending on what she chooses to do next and sometimes she does stagger but sometimes she doesn't". There's only 1 attack (the slam down) that has an actual opening so your basically forced to attack knowing you might be hit back and then on top of that those hits heal her.
Much like watching this video, and many others I didn't get better at this fight, I was just waiting to get the right RNG to win, literally just trying to attack my way through and pray she picks the right moves for me to win. This fight is more RNG-Based than it is Skill-Based, which is why everyone gets mad doing it.
@@Fitsuuu I think they designed her around spirit ash summon. 1st phase solo was doable but 2nd is just disaster with blade flurry spam
I summoned black knife tiche on later attempts and spam blasphemous blade skill. I won under 3-5 minutes
Bruh i fought her after patch 1.03 NG+1, and she became even worse🤦, everytime her health down to
@@Fitsuuu I beat hear using a katana and dashes only when she does her flurry attack, and I can say it's a bad take. All her attacks can be dodged with no spirit ash if you do it the right way, but it needs research and hard work. The fact that a no hit run is possible is already a proof. Basically if you got hit is because either you didn't react fast/well enough or you just didn't find the right way.
It's actually a very well designed boss because : 1) All her attacks can be dodged 2) story-telling-wise, the fact that she needs all that training is perfectly fit for someone known as "undefeated".
@@velienne1319 All no hit runs I know of are using parry, which yes you can parry her and that aleviates 99% of the problems but a boss shouldn't be designed around being parried, this isn't Sekiro.
I also killed her without summons/parries but as I said it wasn't because I got better at the fight it was just "keep pulling until I get lucky with the movesets". She has got a couple punishable attacks but 80% of her attacks are 50/50 on if she'll just hyper armour into an attack mid-opening and hit you.
So your left with 3 options with this boss - Roll the dice on what should be her opening and pray you get lucky. Dodge around for for 10min waiting for that 1 attack which has an actual reliable opening or or use parry/summons. None of which IMO lead to a good experience, hence I feel this is a poorly designed boss.
To just flat out tell me I am not reacting "fast" enough. I would literally roll her attack, mash R1 to swing straight out of the roll then mash roll to roll straight out of the R1 and she'd start a new attack and hit me before that roll began. You can't physically go faster.
Biggest tip i learned with her and maliketh, as crazy as it sounds, roll at them when they do their sword combo if youre already too close. As you can see here, speed wise and accuracy, shes on a completely different level. So when you back up and roll, youre giving her an opening. If you roll towards them, it almost puts you behind them. Hope this sorta helps
except for her flurry, cos that hits you no matter what
@@ScrodumHat time for turtle barricade shield baby
@@ScrodumHat No need to get stubborn and try to messy dodge her extremely long combos and pray you have enough s. Just use a combination of block and dodge as needed. There is a guy that beat her with just a longsword and brass shield.
@@Leonhart_93 bloodhound step works too, just dont useit while locked on like charlie did and she wont be able to touch you.
@@Leonhart_93 there is a guy that beat her with just a club
Imagine if you had to run through the area leading up to the boss after every death like other souls games. Shit would be the most painful experience ever.
DS3 would have a shortcut right before it. Hell, Elden Ring still pulls that shit plenty. Like the Academy and Castle Sol.
All the bosses in Dark Souls 2 are like that.
@@justsomerandomguy9547 the only ones who aren't are royal rats and a dlc boss
@@gabrielsantana6161 I completely forgot about the rats, but the other bosses were a real pain since i've played as an undead since my first death and my health bar was less than half of what it should've been.
Dark souls 1 does this too usually, you basically make a shortcut right before ornstein and smough, you unlock an elevator inside sen’s fortress, you get a bonfire right before queelagg, most of them have either shortcuts you unlock or shortcuts you discover yourself
It was painful as all hell, but I killed her with radahn's armour and the starscourage great swords. I felt like I owed it to the king 👑
Yes. He was the good guy and this bitch Poisoned him with rot when he was about to win
I had been running his swords every since I got the ability to use them but once I got to malenia I couldn’t beat her and gave into changing my whole build into a blood build and going for the black knife and mimic ashes you got my respect for beating her with those frfr
Well done 👏👏
SAME
@@MrGrimz4 legit did the same with the scourge swords but had to use bloodhound fang with applying frost grease and still took me like 50 tries
For how hard this boss was, I was surprisingly calm through the whole ordeal which was probably due to my low expectations of beating her. Most of my rage came out fighting Beast Clergyman and Mohg (specidically when he splatters the whole arena with bloodflame)
the only boss i’ve ever actually raged at in the entire game was godfrey. i beat maliketh pretty easy my 2nd try bc if summons but godfrey j kept getting me with those full arena smashes
Elden Beast was the only boss that really made me upset. NG+2 Elden Beast has made me vow to never finish this game again now that I have the platinum trophy.
I was alternating between calm and low-key having fun and pissed off during the fights
Mohg my first playthrough was kinda underwhelming because mage game play is busted but my 2nd made me Mald my eyes out for some weird reason
We all know that the final boss of Elden Ring is Charlie himself, you still have to unlock him.
its not a mistake its a masterpiece!
My content is better
You must sacrifice a 6'0 man to summon Charlie and challenge him.
Geez i just realized that there were only bot comments here
I'm paige better than heat Charlie I got on my
“oMg ChArLiEeEeEe 🤤🥴🤤🥴”
It’s beautiful to see the boss I struggled hours with defeated by Sonic the Hedgehog’s doppelgänger, Shadow the Hedgehog.
New game+ even. Some in a twitch chat I was in said mimic sucked cause their build sucked. It can legit solo a boss on new game+ with Charlie's meme build haha
@@MrNightmaresinner i’m pretty sure there’s even a video of Mimic +10 soloing Melania. Mimic is wild.
@@salmon3669minecraft Jesus that's op
@@salmon3669minecraft that's bullshit lol. the only way it can solo a boss is on ng+ and that's only if it's an early one. It's really strong, but it's not THAT busted.
@@jamiealexandermiller trust me it is
Me with my battlemage character: "Malenia was easy... I don't know why everyone says she's so difficult."
Me with my melee character: "I'm going to need another hundred levels before I can beat this one."
bro i sTILL struggled on my battlemage took me fucking 4 DAYS i am TERRIFIED of her on my dex build
@@michaeljohnlee8036 just started a full quality build, I'm not looking forward to fighting her with a greatsword.
Killed her in an hour and a half on my melee character using blood frost and fire. Along with mimic tear. Also I was only like level 60, since then I’ve beat the game and put my summon sign down at her entrance to help others 💯
@@mike5978 Greatsword has the upside of staggering her a lot. Her poise isn't great so you can posture break her. My problem was that I didn't have much that did huge posture damage but still had to be up in her face for most of the fight.
@@rhaegarelctm7994 Malenia has hyper armor on most of her attacks so you can really stagger her when she isn't attacking
Took me 3 days to beat her, probably spent over 4 1/2 hours in total of straight fighting. My Xbox achievement says only 6.73% of people on Xbox have beaten her, safe to say I am satisfied. I feel like I can defeat anything and anyone now, Elden Lord here we come
@@IchorColdBlood Did you mean to make your comment a reply?
I felt this way after I almost got a no-hit parry run on her and then I started playing Sekiro. Needless to say, I've been humbled lol
@@IchorColdBlood Woohoo, good for you…
Try Isshin
@@anshuuu9708 Isshin barely an hour for me. The demon of hatred was harder. Took me 4 or so hours to beat. Malenia however took me 10 hours. Although I only used Bloodhounds Fang and was using the Carian Chestplate and Blaids legs and gloves with no helmet. I felt like I should go with this despite having the Radahn set because Malenia had a move set that I could respect heavily. Really reminded me of Sekiro with how fast she was and that insane combo made me remember Genichiro(my favorite Sekiro boss). Genichiro is to date my favorite Sekiro boss with Sekiro being one of my all time favorites.
Can't believe that Malenia beat Charlie, Lord of Dung just over 30 times. Too bad her streak ended, though, would've been cool to see her get the world record for most Lord of Dung runs
I almost choked while reading this
@@comradegab3344 I'm glad my stupid joke could make you laugh, tbh, kekekekek
I completelly lost when he went from doing a low level side boss to imediately invade a 4 players world with the rolling build
“This boss made me madder than EDP when he found out Netflix was removing cuties from its platform.”
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Read that in the Charlie voice the other Charlie’s do.
@@MbitaChizi shut up stop copy and pasting the same message if you are a human then say smthin else literally begging
This boss is more frustrating to deal with than the kids in my basement
@@solarbear7017 that’s where my head was at lol
I beat her with my feet and hands tied behind my back, my eyes gouged out, and using a steering wheel instead of a controller. Shes hella easy to beat idk why everyone is labeling her "The hardest boss".
King 👑
Fuckjng chad
How the hell did you move the steering wheel with your hands and feet tied behind your back ?👀
N00p, a steering wheel? Thats easy mode, I did it on a banana.
Bro grow up my guy I beat maleina with a lightbulb by controlling it in my ass
For anyone feeling bad because you spent a lot more time on this boss, the build he is playing with during this is probably the most overpowered build you could do without summons and magic. The flashstep makes her combos much easier to dodge, the duel katanas are really quick with high damage output and stagger + the bleed makes them do even more damage. The flashstep makes you able to also wear a lot more and heavier armor making her hits not hit as hard either. Clarifying to anyone who spent hours on this boss.
Afaik status effect katanas are literally like the best possible weapon against her
Yeah Charlie had the most op build in the game, and this boss is weak to it. The fact that it took him 34 tries or something is pretty telling of how ridiculous Malenia is.
yup.. to boot: one of the best weapons to abuse the fact she can be staggered (thanks to high attack speed and decent hitting power), Iframes that last an eternity, and cold AND bleed combined for the nastiest procs ever on a boss that doesn't have that much health (since she compensates by healing on hit). My one successful attemps was made with a summoned player, both of us going with bleeding. (me with a shield and pike buffed with blood as I'm a strengh build, and the otehr player with a big pair of sickles)
Trying to beat her with heavy, slow weapons though... pretty sure it flat out CANNOT be done.
@@thorveim1174 rtgame did it XD with radahns giant swords
@@thorveim1174 blastphamous blade is pretty strong against her you can if you are lucky chain weapon arts on her to keep knocking her over
I was like “there is no way this boss is on equal terms to Radan”
Sees it second phase
“Yup badass as him”
radahn is still more badass
i thought this one was alot easier
Radahn really isn't that hard. His attacks are easy to read, and with enough health, you can actually survive them. He's harder than a lot of Elden Ring bosses, but he doesn't even come close to Malenia. People overhype him way too much, especially since you can come back at much later levels. Malenia is ridiculously hard at all levels.
@@keane6 to me he was
@@keane6 Malenia is literally only "hard" because of the waterfowl dance attack, if it hadn't been for that she'd be mid-tier in difficulty.
Watching Charlie fight these bosses makes me think I can do it too and motivates me to play the game and now that I have a handle of the dodge timings and just combat in general, I can’t stop playing the game. It’s so good.
And this is the story of how InfernoForce got gud
It's actually insane how effective Charlie's Sonic the Hedgehog build is in PVP because nobody seems to know how to fucking jump over the roll.
I cheesed the hell out of this boss. I spammed the blasphemous blade weapon art, it constantly staggers her in phase one. I was so tired of being murdered so I said fuck it and cheesed her. And yet she still obliterated me. What a hard boss man.
How did you even hit her with it, everytime i did it she dodged it or attacked me. With mimic is a crazy cheese but without it i couldn't get a single hit in
Same. After hours of barely even getting close to phase 2, I just opted for the Blasphemous GS art. She didn't have a 5 seconds of uptime lmao
@empreus damn that's the move i dislike the least tbh. Her other moves have insane reach which makes me think i'm at a safe distance at times when i'm not. Also her quick succession of hits (not the flurry) is dodgeable for sure but it's quite quick so it can catch you off guard. Then the flurry of course is her worst attack, can only dodge it with bloodhound step if you're not far enough (which is very far), or with a shield but she also heals if you use one, there is another way but ongbal himself said it's very hard so yeah. But yeah the fact that i literally can't hit a blasphemous blade weapon art because she dodges it still stands, i genuinely don't understand how you can hit her with it, unless of course you use a mimic tear
I gave and used +10 mimic tear and it still took me about 15 attempts
@@Pinocchio29Learn how to really use bloodhound step, it basically trivializes her whole fight once you learn how to evade her bullshit bc without her vampirism life steal, she’s actually a lot like Maliketh (very squishy)
Now we just need a elden ring boss tierlist (Including mini bosses)
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The true final boss is the friends we made along the way.
where are they and how do i kill them?
It's actually the friends we LOST along the way, no lifing the game and ignoring your social life.
@@onesime.t you need the sword of night and flame
no worries I defeated them in the tutorial.
@@stillnotchill2560 I got Gideon the all knowing to try finding who asked, still hasn't popped into his mind
This shit is giving me PTSD, this was the boss that broke me. Like 3 days trying to beat her, when I finally did I thought I was gonna cry. Never have I raged on any boss until her, I'll never fight her again in any playthrough
I just beat her only using 3 flasks. Used a bubble tear to increase stance break and got it in 3 tries after that.
uhh- this makes me wanna not play the game 😳 that is fucking crazy
@@Phoenix_9902 nah you should still play she's not a mandatory boss
Phoenix 99 great game, hardest boss by far., at least for me but I know I’m not alone on this one
Lol
Personally I loved it, I didn't encounter any bosses that really made me smack my head against a wall until Malenia and a couple other end game bosses. So satisfying to finally win.
When charlie’s biggest concern was the flower attack at first, I knew he would be in for quite a surprise
I heard "I am Malenia blade of Miquella" so many times from her . that when I finally got her I my self became malenia at the end .
and my god her weapon is op .
No, I am Malenia, blade of Miquella.
48 dex or whatever just to use it is insane tho
Yeah the waterfowl dance is a death sentence for anything with low poise
I wound up beating this boss using only the starfists. Agony.
@@SupernalWanderer thats my weapon of choice, but I use bloodhounds step on it so it wasn't as bad
She really be like “Let me get you with my shadow clones real quick” in her second phase.
13:10 that “nO” from Charlie was full of uncharacteristic despair
Her waterfowl dance legit had me ready to dolphin dive out my window . If you can dodge that you’re the true Elden Lord .
If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge waterfowl dance!
Try bloodhounds step, jump back twice and for the last hit jump forward and you'll be okay 80% of the time.
@@darthdoggie0031 i think he meant without bloodhound step, since with it it’s quite easy to dodge.
@@slycooper2bandofthieves116 still, if you can outpace the first one you'll be fine, if you roll at the right time you'll also be fine. Or if your in a really bad scenario as long as you can take the first one you'll be fine.
maybe I'm just a masochist but I loved how hard malenia was. same with radahn. really made them feel like the amazing warriors they were foretold as.
Radahn might as well be child’s play compared to malenia
@@tsavage4337 it's very sad really, especially since radahn was the stronger combatant. definitely didn't deserve the nerfs
@@hamboningmaster he only really was nerfed because of the power of the scarlet rot, and how it weakened him. He probably forgot a ton of Gravity magic from that, and it probably weakened his physical capabilities.
@@CleanVGC Yeah, in terms of lore, most of the demigods were nerfed.
Rennala = went insane after husband left
Radahn = scarlet rot go vroom vroom
Rykard = victim of vore fetish
Godrick = minecrafted
Godfrey = lost grace
I don't think Mohg and Morgott were lore-nerfed... and Malenia was born w/ the rot so she was used to it even though it took her limbs.
(I think OP is talking about gameplay nerfs though... people complained about Radahn so FromSoft made him easier)
@@Attacksloth_32 That's dumb FromSoft compensating for the casuals is something I've never heard of. They have failed everyone by making the almighty badass Radahn easier.
Listening to his words, watching his movements, your definitely the calmest gamers ive seen fighting her, but at the same time, knowing this is the hardest fight in the game makes each death feel more of a learning experience then an attempt.
I figured out how to 100% dodge her large combo, at first you dodge back then dodge forward, then dodge forward again. Once she goes in the air you dodge under her then back as many times as you can and it dodges the whole thing.
I do that except, for the last fury of blades, I stand still for a bit, when she runs behind you roll away twice, and then punish with a jumping attack.
i love how after killing all the bosses charlies first thought is bullying other players
That roll attack is the most hilarious shit I've seen in ages, it's the least intimidating charge ever that literally rolls people over. I mean, just look at this guy: 20:12 Dude was probably having an epic RP session, looking out over the hill like some anime protagonist.
Funniest shit is they probably saw Charlie coming, saw he didn't look as cool as them, and thought "Peh, rolling at me? Do you think you can harm me with such a paltry- OW, FUCK! What the hell? How is it doing so much dam- AGHGHGH!" Definitely a moment to be carved into a wall of granite, forever marked in history as the saddest way to go, killed by an electric roly poly.
Yeah my man's Charlie is like a car and some of those fellas were dear
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Oh my fucking god that is one of the most hilarious things ever
The fact that it has a sheep sound effect as it’s starter💀
The only weakness this boss has is how much she staggers and after dying 500+ times you know all of her combos and abilities
You shouldn’t hit women
nice pfp
@@GardenGuy1942 i see a beta
@@GardenGuy1942 The hammer of justice is unisex
@@GardenGuy1942 In Elden ring these hands are for everyone man, women, animal, beat or child
They all bouta get this smoke
i've been stuck on the Malenia fight for 2 days, switched to Charlie's build and killed her first try. Charlie is without a doubt the greatest gamer of the modern age.
I think Charles should totally go for a 100% achievements on this game, such a worthy game for the effort.
It's not very hard at all, like it literally takes a couple hours to get once you've made it to where he's at
Fortunately it's the easiest from game to 100% at least
@@xDbrad Can't you only do one ending for every playthrough tho? Because while planning on trying to get the ending achievements I couldn't fight the final boss again.
@@jatinmarcob2128 so once you beat the final boss you can quit the game, copy the folder somewhere, and do the ending, then quit the game and paste the copied folder back and it acts as a save, so as long as you do all the right quests you can do every ending in one play through
@@jatinmarcob2128 look up a video to make sure you do it right and it can also be done on both consoles
Most impressive thing is how patient this man is
Some tips (I've noticed from fighting her. 1. 04v) (Did this solo btw.)
1.) she's got low ass poise, go ham and stagger her. Tactical staggering. 👌 Can even interrupt her sometimes.
2.) Any melee weapon that has long range or a long ash of war range, go in there and start bashing when she just starts walking and staring at you. Remember, she got low ass poise. You can put some combo moves out there.
3.) Her waterfowl dance... I ain't no veteran, so just Bloodhound step it. You'll figure it out.
4.) know that she is the one and only Malenia, blade of Miquella.
5.) Also when you get to the boss for the very first time, after the cut scene, have your finger at the ready at the dodge button. Because she, after the cut scene, immediately attacks you. It's fcking quick as well.
Some more tips
For her first attack in phase 2, wait for her to slightly hover up, then dodge. You know once you see it.
To dodge waterfowl, just as far as you can and then roll into her once she tries her 3rd wave of attacks. You can also predict when she'll use it. She will usually use it once she gets to 3/4 health so try and create distance when you are approaching that. She will also slow down how long her attacks go for. So if she does 1-3 attacks and then goes back to idle a couple of times, expect she will most likely use Water Fowl sometime soon.
Take breaks if you get a bit too heated. Take some time off to reflect on what you are doing wrong and how to fix it. Once you are mad, you will only do worse and have a worse time.
Change your loadout. I used a sword and shield for most of my playthrough but I abandoned the shield for this fight. I also changed a lot of my tailsmens to see what one gave me more defense or did more attack.
BEST TIP: Do not get mad. Think that every attack CAN be dodged and that none are unfair. If you just accept that this is the hardest boss that FS has made, you'll have a lot more fun than frustrating.
"Imagine if I get this boss first try"
That did not age well
Malenia has a 8,3% trophy acquirance at the ps5. I did think, too, it was the hardest boss by far. Required me to up my soul level about 50 levels to finally beat it after over 80 trys
that’s actually higher than i would’ve thought being that she’s so difficult and also in a hidden area
lvl 50?? I was around lvl 100 at least. Did it after the fire giant and nokron + deeproot
@@MilkJugA_ he said "up my soul level about 50 levels" not that he was lvl 50
@@anthonymorales5815 You can simply respec to like 30 END, throw on heavy ass armor and a weapon with Hoarfrost Stomp, summon your mimic and pray she doesn't use her anime move. Should be pretty easy sailing for the most part perma staggering her with Hoarfrost and the disgusting Frost proc %hp damage
Edit: call it cheese, call it strategy, some people just don't care enough and simply want the soul
@@anthonymorales5815 +10 mimic and stagger weapon or bleed very easy to cheese especially if you fight her first phase 1 on 1 and summon in second
I’m convinced a significant percentage of my time playing this game was spent on this boss fight alone
Pretty sure the dying cutescene takes 50% of the in game time
@empreus We can say the same thing to you, how did you lose on Radahn so much, hes pretty easy. Lol
@empreus Grow up. She didn’t take me that long either, but I can understand that everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. A boss that might seem easy to you can be hard for someone else. That’s what’s amazing about souls games. Everyone has a different experience. Don’t make other people feel bad about having a hard time with her.
@empreus lemme guess, ur a mage.
@empreus Oh thats why. Every boss in the game is easy if you use rotting breath, even the godskin duo, malekith, and the one before the last boss. Godskin duo is justified since thats literally an unfair ass fight. Shits gay.
I can only imagine what a level 1 play through of this game would be like.
Very very short
Tedious and boring they would just use hoarfrost stomp.
I would have to assume that most level 1 runs wouldn't bother with most of the option stuff. You'd just be going straight for critical path.
Lobos just put out a video of him beating Melania at level 1. No bleed, frost, or summons
Check the youtuber named ONGBAL
“‘Bloodhound step + frost + bleed but no summons lol’… what did you use? A frying pan?”
I love the way Charlie deals with backseaters
At least it’s nice to see that Charlie doesn’t take any shit from his chat and will shit on them for gatekeeping his experience
Another favourite of mine:
“Says doesn’t use summons but uses estoc”
“What is this weird gatekeeping? What did you use, nothing but a frying pan? What are you talking about? I really like the souls community but it’s the weird fucking twitch viewers that gatekeep like you’re not allowed to use a useful weapon. It makes no fucking sense”
I was summoned for malenia and the person who summoned me was spamming the laser beam on the night and flame sword, stun locking her because she was knocked by it. Suffice to say she died easily
Yeah I did that with my mimic tear. Just want my first playthrough to be sorta story focused. Other playthrough I’m gonna not cheese bosses
Yeah she's not that hard, just really punishing if you didn't build right. She's a dps check, she has a smaller health pool than most bosses but can heal on hit. If you didn't balance your damage with your tank stats you're gonna get your shit pushed in.
@@dragonwaz How does Mimic Tear + Moonveil do against her?
i bullied her with blasphemous blade weapon art just knocking her down over and over again
I've been in a LOT of other people's games where they used that stray, sometimes even two of them were using it, but not a single one beat her, she either dodged or the sword wasn't upgraded enough to actually hurt her. There was only 2 games where they did a good amount of damage but they neither had enough health to survive the grab attack.
I wasn’t even satisfied when I beat her. I was just slight frustrated. But I got that Dxmn katana & she will never see my face again
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new game plus
ik u wanna use that katano on her
@@onesime.t ahhh cmon, don’t do me like that lol! I mean…I should huh?
@@zxeuss361 ik ima do it just so she feels the pain i went through
That's kinda the feeling I've been having with a lot of Elden Ring bosses, no satisfaction just frustration. Instead of being like "wow that boss was amazing" it's "I'm glad that bullshit is over. I never want to fight that thing again."
I fought Malenia using Radahn's Soldiers summon. It felt like the right thing to do. I wish I had Radahn's armor set as well.
you can buy the armor at the boss weapon lady, after beating radahn
Would've been cool if there was a Fume/Velstad like interaction with her and Radahn's armor.
I used Cleanrot Knight Finlay, had to use a summon in the end just couldn’t survive her second phase. Finlay was very fitting for the job and he’s a tank
In my opinion radagon is pure Madness i still have flashbacks
"I'm gonna knock him off the ledge OUTPLAYED!"
*dies instantly*
If anyone's struggling with the flurry, waterfowl dance, run away from the first (two if you're far enough), and dodge into her on the 3rd.
You can somewhat bait it, if you stand close enough for her to use it (about 10m) but not close enough that you can't get away, she'll usually use it at 25% intervals (or at least unlocks it) ESPECIALLY when getting up from a stagger.
Wait would you EVER want to bait that move?
I actually found dodging INTO her last two flurries very helpful. I would run away from the first one and dodge away with flash step and then get hit a bit but then dodge into her last two flurries with no damage with it.
@@darksteelmenace595 lmao, if you bait her into using it it's almost guaranteed (at least in my 100 deaths fighting her) that she won't use it again for a minute or two, so you can with more confidence stay close. It's good if you need some control, like keeping that distance so you can see her jump up and just book it.
@@Rise7 not to mention she stays open for a pretty good punish after that attack ends
The Hardest Boss for me was finding out where to go next lol
it must be really hard to figure out the grace lines on your map, they literally point towards important bosses/areas. I played through this game completely blind and had no issues with finding where to go at all.
@@deathsacomin the thing is there are many good questlines to skip if I play this game blindly.
@@arthoormoorgen9492 Honestly, fair enough. I did manage to get the moonlight quest done blind, but I think I missed some other big ones. They should have done a journal for the open world part
@@arthoormoorgen9492 That is what i ment, you literally can skip so much without even knowing.
There is no way someone can do EVERYTHING blindly in the first playthrough
That has been true for me on souls games.
You know, watching this made me feel better about my run, knowing that even people who are really good at these games struggle
Took me 2 days to beat her
Man the devs went hard in the paint for her design 🔥
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I got to her way underleveled and my ego wouldn't allow me to retreat so that was 5 hours and probably days of my life cut short but I won, my win with my + 19 bastard sword!
I was nearly 150 with max weapons when I fought her and it still took days.
I am amazed with how he beat the boss, but I'm even more amazed with how he's relatively calm besides monotone complaints
Agreed. I raged hard at this boss for around 20-25 tries, lost my voice for a day.
That blade rush is quite possibly the most difficult attack to perfectly dodge in souls
isshin
I’ve been really loving Elden Ring. I would be shocked if it isn’t A game of the year contender
@YeaMan you don’t even know how to spell page😂😂😂
It better be game of the year or imma riot. No open world game or any game this year has had as much care and content as this game. The amount of exploration, customization and replay ability is unparalleled
for some reason i thought eleden ring was dark souls LOL
I'm paige better than heat Charlie I got on my
@@wubblefett4980 It's made by the same people, and uses the same gameplay mechanics. so i don't blame you
17:37 the dude's right though, bloodhound step+frost+bleed is just as op as mimic tear. Hell, any of those alone is comparable.
I think bloodhound step alone is better than all of those combined.
Mimic tear with bleed build melts her health.
@@dandan3045 tiche can do that but also doesn't feed
Real gamers use all 4 😎
@@pikminfantheory9238 this was always allowed
Charlie is such a good gamer. I couldn’t beat second phase without mimic tear
Same, honestly
For my second playthrough (still ongoing) I committed to not using Summons unless absolutely necessary. After several dozen deaths to Malenia I cracked and went for the Mimic. Honestly, pretty useless, since she heals off of it. So eventually I just abandoned that idea and (finally) beat her. It was brutal.
I found it harder with mimic tear
She would heal tremendously from him
It took me 357 deaths to beat her
Skill issue
I couldn't even get to phase 2 without mimic tear ngl
I love how perfectly timed the attack at 9:56 is with the music
For anyone having trouble with this boss: Hoarfrost Stomp. Just spam it. Get a mimic to spam it. It's hilariously strong
Good ol stomp.
Bloody Slash works wonders as well.
Stomp is heavily nerfed
^
@@Shyftus it got nerfed literally today. Was a valid strat at the time of my comment
15:07 ran a whole counter build for her. “lock her down” man knew what he got himself into 💀
3:22
It is only because of that move that makes her difficult. If Malenia didnt have that move, after like 10-15 attempts, most people would be able to beat her
Yup
@Live from the boot
For Radahn, that one hit ko attack where he throws rocks at u. If he didnt have that, woulda had him in like 10-15 attempts too
"If the boss was easier it'd be easier."
There's also those 2 other attacks in phase 2 that are pretty hard too
@Live from the boot
You right. I made Radahn extra hard for myself by not using any of the summons. So I do enjoy the challenge
that move she does is regarded as the single hardest to dodge move in the entire souls franchise
And it's her only difficult move to deal with. Terrible design
Melania is like as if Sephiroth, Vergil, and a hint of Yoko Taro's madness was sprinkled in. I am here for it!
I mean Charlie never bothered to deflect and counter attack. Which is one of the things the game higly encourages to do
I think a good tip for people who are having a hard time dodging her Waterfowl Dance is to have a shield in your left hand, and when she’s about to do that move, double-hand the shield. You negate the damage taken, and because the shield is two-handed, it doesn’t take up too much stamina to block it. Just block the first combo, dodge the second one, then block the third one to conserve stamina so your guard doesn’t get broken.
except she heals off of that stupid shit
@@peterk.2108 Giving her 5-10% of her healthbar back is a small price to pay for being able to survive the attack.
Mimic Tear is truly the hardest boss to beat. Everytime you do, you realize you have failed.
6:14 gotta love that scarlet rot timing.
Took me over 100 attempts to beat her without summons or any cheese. I wasnt even using Bleed either, just straight up beat the shit outta her. Hardest boss in Elden ring in my opinion, after you beat her nothing compares.
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@@MbitaChizi 💀
Had 2 first good solo attempts, brought her very low in phase 1 both times
Decided to use the mimic for the third one
Poor thing died immediately, I had like 10 or 9 estus left
Mimic is a bit strong
Summons do nothing for this fight except heal her back to full of the damage you've done to her. I had better luck with soloing.
@@eldenctlhulhu7278 what weapon were you using?
I loved that boss. She was really difficult and definitely took me the longest to beat out of any boss I fought in any souls game. But it was mostly my fault. I never learned from what she did and just kept doing the same stuff. It took me three and a half hours
Bruh almost beat her on 10th try because i had some good rng with the flurry attack then every run afterwards she would troll me and use it in the worst times. Then 4 hours in she jumped and did the attack right before she was going to be killed.
@@lilzp9106 the struggle is real haha. I had her down to one hit left a few times before beating her. Got really greedy and paid the price. Man it felt good to finally beat her though
The trick is to parry. That’s the real cheese for all the bosses
@@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686 haha, that takes a different breed of person. I couldn't parry if it told me when to
@@HuevosAzules I thought I was bad at it too(dark souls and blood borne veteran, love parrying in all of them) until I realized you want to parry the arm/hand in elden ring. Don’t parry the weapon.
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die"
has the same energy as
"i am Malenia, Blade of Miquella"
Holy shit. I really thought I was the first person to come up with that one as a response. Great minds I guess.
@@adamwest8711 Great quote too, its just that rememberable
everytime he dies he says its unlucky but he's really just getting greedy
Nothing beats standing over her body saying “I am Tarnished, the Elden Lord.”
I love how he shows how OP mimic tear is by making it fight against margit with max weapons and a max level mimic lmao
Souls fans try not to get mad when streamer doesn't beat Malenia at RL1, no ashes of war, no spells, no armor, no dodging, and no bitches challenge (impossible)
Souls fans when people use the game’s built in mechanics to beat the game
The little moan his character does when he does the rolling attack cracks me up every time!
You can really tell that George R R Martin played a major role in designing this boss fight just by how little clothing Melania has in phase 2
The only real hard part about Malenia is that flurry attack
The time I first beat her she never used the flurry attack
And then on new game + 2 I beat her again when she never used the flurry attack
That’s what I’m saying. You literally just have to pray to RNG that she doesn’t pull that shit.
@@AJ_Ol Well it is possible to dodge it without getting hit once(I think there's a RUclips video about it) but yeah it does look pretty RNG without outside help(YT videos or other media)
@@ihavenolife1295 what you do is start running away asoon as she's gets up in the air, then after the 2nd wave of slashes, unlock off her and roll towards her direction she was coming from
@@AJ_Ol or you can you know just learn how to dodge her and stop blaming rng?
@@AJ_Ol they give you like a full second to recognize she's going to do it, run away
Malenia’s second phase reminds me a tiny bit of God of War’s Valkaries, though she’s obviously significantly tougher than them
Ng+ give me God of war valkyrie queen is a lot harder than ng+7 malenia I say
"Melee only" actually makes this fight easier. She's often too fast to properly punish her with spells, a pure melee build will allow you to use good weapons to interrupt her and you'll likely have more HP and heals.
As with any boss, there's a few ways to cheese. If anyone's having trouble, here's one way: Fingerprint Greatshield and Greatshield Talisman can reach 100 guard boost; her grab and the flower are the only attacks that can get through. She'll heal, but with any decent weapon and regular attacks, not as quickly as you're damaging her.
Another good one if you have the stats for it and don't care about summons:
Blasphemous Blade on mimic. Rivers of Blood for yourself. Mimic can spam the ash of war for BB, which knocks her over almost every time. Then you can come in with RoB and deal massive bleed damage without retaliation.
He got so lucky in the end when I fight her she just spams her wombo ultra slash triple combo over and over and in second phase if you fuck up the spacing/dodge even slightly its instant death.
I’m always really shocked when people who have Charlie’s audience size are using an AT2020 or a Blue Yeti lol
Edit: to clarify there’s nothing wrong with it I’m just surprised when they aren’t using fancier stuff
Why would you spend more when something works perfectly fine? If it ain't broke don't fix it
why would u add an edit when literally one person responded just reply LOL
Sometimes less is more, I get what you mean tho
this fancy gear is mostly a scam - even if there is some difference, nobody will really care
Charlie: Malenia is the hardest boss in Elden Ring
Gravity: Am i a joke to you?