*I accidentally cut a part of Mimir stating he needs his other eye to open the door to Jotunheim and Brok/Sindri saying that his other eye may be in the statue of Thor which the World Serpent swallowed. Yup... that's what I get for editing late when i'm exhausted... Sorry about that!* WOW! Everytime this game gets to a deep part of the story, I am BLOWN AWAY. This whole episode was SO much fun and so tense and emotional! I legitimately almost lost it 😂! Just soooo well done! *READ AFTER WATCHING* I truly felt like there were so many layers to pull back during this whole episode. We get to see this amazing bond between Kratos and Atreus and it honestly makes me so emotional to see how far they've come together. Kratos being so closed off and strict in the beginning and Atreus just being young and wreckless. Santa Monica Studios did SO well in making this father and son bond feel real that it sheds light on what it would feel like to be a parent to even me who has no experience or others who don't either. It really makes you realize how far a parent would go to protect their child and why. They also show this through Freya's pain and unconditional love. She is willing to give her life to her child who has clearly lost humanity just to see him live. I still feel bad that Baldurs life was more than a little bit destroyed but, Kratos gave him a choice to be better and he refused in the end (he also hurt the World Serpent and you know how I feel about that!😜). It's interesting to me that in the very last moments of his life he acknowledged and felt the snow.. like the only way he could ever have been happy in the end is by dieing and truly feeling what it feels like to lose it all in that moment. I'd love to see everyones thoughts on this episode! So GOOD. I can't wait for the final journey and what it has in store! Sorry for the paragraph but, I couldn't help myself!
For me, it was Danielle's performance during that scene. (Freya.) Got smoke in my eye. >.> Remember when Atreus was sick, she told Kratos that the runes foretold a needless death for her baby. So, she was only trying to protect him, as a mother would. So tragic.
It's so funny, the World Serpent sounds all epic and thunderous but all he's really saying is "yeah man it's probably still in my stomach. You're welcome to check." 😂
It's another of the inversions/subversions of Norse mythology that this game often makes. In myth Jormungandr is the most terrible of monsters, but here he's a chill dude who just happens to be a really, really big snake. ;-)
@Crab in A Top Hat This is a great short-form analysis of the series mythology. Tyr is usually a minor god, but here he is the most beloved, and significant for his travels and compassion. The Jotuns are seen as warlike beastly giant-barbarians, to be fought and defeated - here they are a people, just wanting to be left alone. The Aesir's deeds and tasks are seen as heroic and legendary - but here, they are the acts of a toxic family of petty, sociopathic bullies. What a beauteous take on the old, well-tread grounds of Norse myth.
TitanGT66 -- True. A couple of differences in this case, though. CIPA sufferers can't experience pain, heat, or cold. Baldur couldn't experience any sensation: taste, smell, touch. No pleasure from food, drink, sex. CIPA also affects people from birth, so that's what they consider normal. Baldur had normal feelings, but then had them taken away. So he knew very well what he was missing.
Exactly. Every day he had to think about his favorite things that he'll never be able to do again. This means he also had to keep his distance from other gods most of the time because he obviously wouldn't wanna be near them while they're enjoying things he can't. What would you even do with yourself for so many years like that, it's the worst curse ever.
@@TitanGT66 I think the length of how long he was cursed made him even crazier. In the mythology I don't think he was like that for very long. He probably wouldn't forgive her because she knew the whole time what could have cured him. She lied to him to his face.
@@lovesnesh6688 Nope...Freya put that spell on him since birth to mainly protect him from Thor ..Its just been 100 years Baldur has been looking for a cure
Tim's Witan during the scene in Hel he had said something like “feasting, women it’s all gone” and then he told her to take it back. It sounds like he was able to experience those things before she cursed him.
Remember when Atreus killed Modi? Kratos had told him, "He is beaten. Not worth killing." Now Atreus said almost the same thing to his father. Reversing those roles shows how much Atreus has grown.
The irony of Baldur being a "horrible person," making the wrong choices, obsessed with revenge... is that Kratos used to be the same way. He followed the path of rage and hatred, killing anyone who got in his way, guilty or innocent. In the end he got his vengeance, but it cost him everyone and everything that ever mattered to him. I've a feeling Kratos's late Norse wife had a big hand in changing him. Their story is one I'd love to see told one day.
Daniel Dickson I agree about Faye being a huge reason for his change. The way he speaks of her with such respect and admiration, the look of sadness on his face at the beginning(before cutting down the tree and when he's gathering her ashes) I feel like she taught him a lot about tempering his rage, maybe even kicking his ass since he said she was a great warrior.
Suzaku oh..its almost... Its almost like you people dont know how kratos was always like this and that you didnt play the previous games! Wow. Im so surprised! He didnt want to sacrifice Pandora for his own revenge and went even madder when she died as she was one of the last things left he cared for and she reminded him of his daughter Calliope. He sacrificed all his lust for revenge and all of his weapons and power just to see Calliope in the elysian fields. But to stop Persephone whose plan was gonna destroy the world, he sacrifices him being with his daughter forever to save humanity and in doing so he regains all of his power, weapons and lust for revenge. The woman had nothing to do with him being how he is. He is just being more carefull so he wont lose another child. He is being so carefull that he was alone by himself hunting the majority of the time avoiding both faye and atreus until faye's death. He wouldnt even kill wild animals unless it was for food, defending only from wolves until they would just get too tired and give up (comic book). Now its just in your face so casuals can go "omg! kratos is sooo different and more complicated now" while its totally inaccurate.
kato093 nah... I have played all the games and I know he wasn't a rage fueled monster 100% of the time. But he sure was quick to anger and murder more than he is in the new game. I liked his character in the previous games and find it really annoying how most game journalists selectively remember the past games. I do believe that after losing everything at the end of 3, and probably not wanting to live anyone even though he couldn't die, Faye gave him a reason to continue AND temper his rage. Regardless of the good moments he had.. he still has anger management issues. Lol
34:43 this line is actually a call back to God of War 2, Zeus actually says this line to Kratos after he attempts to kill Kratos, in reference to the cycle of offspring killing their parents. (The same way Kratos kills Zeus)
@@ceaselessdischarge1026 don't you think so? If you don't, then go to the bed in god of war as you beat the game with BOI to take some rest and you'll see the surprise. If you've done that already, then why don't you think so?
I can sort of understand one aspect of Baldur's anger. Watch all of Freya and Baldur's interactions (here and the memories in Hel) and you'll notice something. Freya never apologizes to him. She makes excuses and justifications for what she did but never says "I'm sorry." Hearing that may not have reduced Baldur's desire to kill her but her finally taking ownership of her actions might've meant something, even for a moment.
yeah it wouldve been nice of her to apologize but she had a very specific reason to keep baldur alive forever and it wasnt just because he was her son. Ragnarok begins with the death of baldur. Notice how he says "snow" right before he dies. thats the catalyst for the end of the 9 realms. Just like the giant freya was controlling, when he died he let a dying breath that froze everything. Baldur let out a dying breath that will bring about the apocalypse. Kratos even says it to a pyschotic Atreus when he kills Magni that there are consequences to killing a god. I mean, kratos kind of had to kill baldur but it was a bad move. shows that he hasnt quite learned from his past mistakes. The next game is gonna be crazy and itll be interesting to see all of these story lines play out.
Freya has to accept that a big part of what Baldur became, and what led to his death, was her fault. If she can't the cycle of vengeance will just go on.
She’s a reflection of Kratos and how he treated his son. He never apologized, made excuses, never explained himself, and never took responsibility for his mistakes. Seeing Baldur in his blood lust, and Freya make her flawed decisions allowed Kratos to examine himself objectively and “end the cycle.”
Good and bad are not so simple, there is no black and white. Baldur has been through a lot, he's not just a straight up bad guy. If you feel nothing for hundreds of years, can you imagine what you would become? He's done bad things in the game, but it's not so simple. Look at Kratos, he was pretty much the same. Even Joel did some horrible things in TLOU. Perspective is very important, if we were playing this game from Baldur's perspective, we wouldn't call him a horrible person. Don't get me wrong though, he's definitely not decent by any means. But I love storytelling like this, this is brilliant writing, I love when characters are not your typical good and bad characters in games, movies or shows and actually have depth to them, shows how mature as a writer you are, because that's how real life is. Everyone may seem good to you IRL, but there's no telling what all those people actually think and what all those people would do in harsh conditions.
Oh yes, I totally agree but, I think in the end Kratos gave him the choice to forgive/let go and Baldur continued on the path of vengence and maybe in Kratos' eyes, knowing where that leads someone and how many people will be harmed wasn't worth letting Baldur live. A lot of depth in this storytelling. It's fantastic.
Marz there’s also the fact that regardless of whether or not Freya survived, Baldur would still have come after Kratos and Atreus, forcing them to kill him in self defense. He had his orders after all. Really it was just a sucky situation all around.
The way I see Baldur is that he is what Atreus could have potentially became, and Freya is the parent (just like Kratos) that has made this mistake and it has cost her. She tries to protect her son without any regard to the consequences and it backfires horribly. Kratos also tries to protect his son, (although it's from the emotional and mental trauma he associates with godhood) by hiding the truth from him, as opposed to Freya trying to protect Baldur physically because of a prophecy foretelling his needless death. Kratos basically ALMOST makes the same mistake Freya makes, and Atreus ALMOST becomes this egotistical psychopath that doesn't care about anything, just like Baldur. In my eyes, the Freya and Baldur story is the same as Kratos and Atreus's story, just taken to its most extreme conclusion.
When Atreus said to Modi, "But we're gods, we can do whatever we want," that was exactly the attitude of Modi and the other Aesir. Ironically, Atreus was on the path to becoming just like them.
Baldur's last line is so simple yet great, "snow". In the prophecies, Ragnarök(end of the world/end of the gods) starts with Baldur's death immediately followed by Fimbulwinter, a time where snow falls for three straight years. His line can be construed as him finally feeling snow on his skin after a hundred years and also realizing the prophecy is fulfilling itself and all his fellow gods are going to die soon.
Jason Stark yeah, just because he is the main character in the game protecting his kid he gets a pass. kratos to me has always been the real villian of the series.
If it makes a difference, Kratos would probably agree with you. He's clearly guilty and ashamed over his past in this game, which is why he hides it from Atreus for so long. Part of his journey is learning that he has a second chance to do something good by doing right by his son, but it takes Kratos a long time to accept that the only way to keep Atreus from following his former dark path is to tell him everything.
bingo. seem a lot of people missed this very key and very important info. it was more than just the love of her son. Freya was a god but she was one of the good ones. she was willing to let baldur kill her in order to protect the 9 realms from destruction. unfortunately for her and baldur, they crossed paths with kratos lol
Yeah, that's common with the final fight with Baldur. There were so many particle effects in play that it's usually missed that Spartan Rage mode is still active.
It was so funny that you were so angry about that world serpent "death" xD Baldur tried to kill you so many times but when he hurt big snake its time to die lol
I never thought Baldur killed the World Serpent. Only Thor is strong enough to do that. Even Baldur said he had "hurt" the "big snake," not killed it. I believe Baldur sucker-punched the Serpent, who feared fighting back would hurt Atreus and Kratos inside its stomach.
@@squidwardtortellini6577 Yeah, lol. It was specially funny to me too, since I don't think Kratos wouldn't be nearly as pissed as Marz was. Makes you think Baldur did it specially to bring forth Marz anger hahahaha
This is one of the rare occasions where I agree with at least part of Kratos' usual attitude. An excess of empathy is very dangerous and allowing yourself to feel sorry for people who wrong you will leave you vulnerable. If you must shed tears, shed them for Baldur's victims. Reach out a hand to people like him and they'll show you what a bleeding heart really is. A cold heart loves nobody, but a soft heart loves too freely. Both are equally dangerous.
Atreus was sooooooo badass in this fight, making some Legolas plays. The teamwork was god-tier. All the shit they went through together, the ups and downs, the lessons they learned from each other, culminating in this fight. They were going full Goku/Gohan on Baldur. Especially loved the part where they were alternating hits on Baldur, and Atreus put in that roundhouse kick. Oof. So good.
If you remember when Kratos and Atreus fought the sons of Thor Kratos told Atreus the same thing. They are beaten. Not a threat. Kratos trying to teach his son to be better than he was and now Atreus has come full circle in telling his father the same thing
Hey Marz, just wanted to let you know I started watching you play this a few months ago, and truly enjoyed every moment! You are a very entertaining let's player, love your commentary, your curiosity and your reactions. I'll definitely be watching your future content, cheers!
Have you been playing through the side missions? You learn a good amount of important information about the characters through Mimir while you're traveling by boat. There's some stuff that he tells you about Freya that really fleshes out her character more and explains some of her actions.
Was watching your reactions more than the gameplay...and it was immensly satisfying. Your appreciation of the story and characters and how they relate to each other is so...relatable i was right there with you lol.
Loved the part when the Boi called in the world serpent to kick that giants A$$. But really the whole scene was written to perfection! Lovin the play Chris your awesome!
this game is just so good, but what makes it even better for me is that im Icelandic. So seeing these words and having it all happen in the mythology ive grown up learning about is amazing. Ps. Im watching the final battle now and freya keeps conjuring these enemies from the giants hand and she does it by saying "þrífa" which means clean... dont really get it lol
Dope this connects us as Germanics. Im Dutch and we call her Vrija and her son Balder. Wednesday (Woensdag) is named after Wodan (Odin) and Thursday (Donderdag aka Thunderday) is named after Donar (Thor)
Great episode. I finished this part more than a month ago, so it was interesting to see it and appreciate it even more than being caught up in the moment, trying to kick Baldur's head in. I love how the more Freya tried to protect Baldur, the more Kratos treated Atreus like a fellow soldier. He literally sent the kid ahead of him to stop Baldur from getting to Freya! Even knowing the story of Baldur, Freya, and the mistletoe (best told by Druth in Hellblade, and Alan More in Top Ten), Santa Monica made this event their own.
You really got to hand it to Santa Monica Studios. It's one thing to make an incredible memorable and involving game like this but when you stick the landing and crush the ending, that's when you really nailed it!
You were so freaked out for the Serpent during the fight xD I love your reactions to the game, also make sure you go back to your home after the game, just making sure you don't forget :D
Man kratos really flexed his working and healthy relationship with his son on Freya like the whole time they were having a heart felt conversation she was there like “Bruh”
Bless your heart for sticking to the end of this game, hope you continue to tie up loose ends. You're playstyle and reactions are very relatable. Happy gaming and hope for more fun times ahead. Any chance of finishing farcry 5 and horizon zero dawn? Also...any chance for a reaction video to the last of us 2 trailer?
I don't think he's just a bad guy. I actually say in my pinned thread I feel bad for him because his life has been destroyed by Freya's blindness in thinking she was protecting him. I felt bad for him in the episode where we were in Helheim also. He's been through something that totally scarred him but, in the end, he punched Atreus and fought everything in his path to get his revenge on Freya (even innocents) which I think would not have sufficed him in the end. Kratos gave him the choice to let it go and Baldur chose not to.
Marz thats what kratos did. Except he succeeded and in doing so destroyed the world. Now by killing baldur he brought ragnarok destroying yet another world. Cant wait to see baldur lead ragnarok .oooohhh... Holy hel!! I just realized... Why odin trapped the valkyries and made hel go to hell. In norse mythology Ragnarok starts with baldr's death and with baldr having dreams of his death. So he goes to odin and frigg and tell them about the dreams. So odin goes to hel and sees that everything was ready for baldr's arrival so frigg calls upon her everything of the world like plants, animals, rocks, elements, making them vow that nothing will ever hurt baldr. But the blind hodor gets tricked by loki into shooting mistletoe arrows and kills baldur. Mistletoe which was deemed safe and not a danger by frigg (frigg in the game is freya.unclear but a possibility in norse mythology). Could it be that odin in gow knew that baldr was going to die and to postpone ragnarok he trapped the valkyries so when baldr died he would never reach the city of hel so cant start ragnarok? But... Baldr died fighting... He must have went to valhalla not hel. Maybe thats why ragnarok began a hundred years early before atreus has a chance to grow up and cause ragnarok the right way? Omg... So many questions.. Might be overthinking. (Read everything as mimir since i wrote it with his way of speaking in my mind lol).
Actually it does. The Prose Edda at any rate, which is what the game is mostly based on. The Prose Edda is basically the "real" Norse Myth. It basically states the mythos we got are romanticized versions of what really happened. That the Aesir are actually the true enemy and that the gods are nothing but monsters.
Well 3 points, one, if Baldur ended up as a bad guy, Kratos was 1 million times worst. In this game Kratos got to redeem himself somewhat, but Baldur will never have this chance. Two, myths have various versions but the most famous one is that his death was an accident not purposely killed like this. The game developers force the narrative to fit Kratos in. Finally, yes Odin could be behind all this. So, the *real* bad guy is Odin... Just things to think about...
Mythic Baldur was almost the antithesis of the one appearing here. In fact many of the attributes of Tyr in this game were Baldur's in the old poems. But the change really suited the tragedy the devs wanted Baldur to embody. But in myth almost all the Norse gods were reprehensible by modern standards. They were violent, ruthless, and frequently deceitful and treacherous. What mattered in their stories was that they won, by whatever means necessary. Yet they were doomed to ultimate failure.
The real reason kratos killed baldur is because if he killed freya baldur would never stop doing bad things and he would never let go of his hate and rage
This was probably my favorite episode from your GOW gameplays. This is why I love your channel so much. You get so deeply invested in the characters and the story that you have real emotional responses when things happen. I thought you did fine in the last battle. You don't know how many people don't know to match the weapon to his power set or just die a bunch. I knew you'd get a kick out of the world serpent stuff too. Looking forward to the final episode.
Yes, he's cured. In mythology, at Baldr's birth Freya asked every man, creature, being and plant in exitence to spare her son, to swear an oath not to harm him, but forgot to ask the mistletoe. And so, Loki one day decides to get up to mischief, as he does in mythology, and got Baldr killed. Kind of like Boy did on accident :)
*He does need help but only for using bad emotes. The rest of you need real help for being as sensitive as feminists to the point that you are actually mad at Baldur.
+BumFluffer1999 You don't feel any pity for Baldur at all? The dude became indestructible at the cost of all feeling taken away from him. He couldn't taste food or drinks. He couldn't feel any wind hitting his body nor the snow around him. He couldn't even have sex properly. You're telling me you wouldn't go crazy after being stuck like that for a century?
the Freya actress is on Point Very well done, the emotion of how a Mother would feel, regardless of almost being killed by her son and the hatred for the one that killed him She was Spectacular
Agreed, Cinematics are great, i recently finnished the game , and shed a tear as Kratos promotes the ankle biter with a Mature responsibility, fist bump and good vids btw
Honestly Baldur's hate for his mother was justified. And so was her being angry at Kratos after he killed him. She might aswell have killed him when she cast the spell on him, just imagine not being able to feel anything, not the food or even the breeze on your face. And that's for over a 100 years. Anyone would go insane, not to mention Odin would've brainwashed him with lies. He's not really evil. Thor on the other hand...
There are some momments in this game that made me put the controller down and just applaud, alone in my room there I was applauding a television screen, thats how amazing this game is.
That boss fight sequence is just incredible. One of the most powerful and breathtaking scene from my gamer's, and competing with the best scene i could see in a movie.
If you really want to blame someone, it’s Odin. He is responsible for every bad thing in this game. Also, Kratos should’ve just killed Freya right then and there.
Atreus would be dead if it weren't for Freya. Kratos wouldn't dare kill her unless she were able to attack him. That would ruin the whole lesson he was trying to teach Atreus and just feel pointless.
Balder was an “horrible person” but only through being a tragic figure who, through his mothers love and desire to protect him, was tortured for over a century. He was unable to feel anything, taste anything, experience anything of worth. Thet was a fate worse than death; the very thing from which she was trying to protect him.
When Jormungandr came to save Atreus and Kratos.. I lost it! Damn near broke my controller in the process!!! That moment was EPIC! And for me, ranks right up there in the top 5 most excellent scenes from any game!!!!
No it's not lol. Look at it's Metacritic score. Exactly like GoW4's. It might be boring to YOU, but alot of people say it's their favourite and the best one (mine is obviously GoW4). And you cannot deny the impact it made, the innovation it brought and the amazing Greek Tragedy it told.
And ignoring someones crimes makes you just as much of a murderer as the bad person doing all the killing and hurting of others lives Being a bitch doesn't make you better. Being better is standing up for what's right, and that includes eliminating evil people who do nothing but sow hatred and death. That quote is cute and all, but hardly practical in the real world when there are people who don't care about your philosphy, they only care about getting what they want and will kill you without batting an "Eye" as you would like to say.
You keep saying Baldur is a horrible person but he’s basically Kratos from the original trilogy. Also, did he really deserve to die? Remember what Kratos said to Atreus earlier, there are always consequences to killing a God.
TitanGT66 Not likely, Kratos was tricked by Ares and it cost him his family, the gods took his brother and told that he is dead where the reality was that he was tortured for decades untill Kratos saves him but shortly die, also Zeus, his father, put a curse on his mother where she would transform into a monster if she reveal his name, which she did and Kratos was forced to kill her, and also Zeus killed him where it was the final straw that put him in a war against Zeus. In conclusion, the gods, especially Zeus and Ares, are the main reason that drove Kratos to wage a war against them and ended the greek pantheon.
Yet Kratos was the one who called on Ares in the first place. Nobody tricked or forced him into doing that, his own bloodthirsty ambition is what cost him everything. He even admits that in this game "I made a deal with a god that cost me my soul." I called Kratos selfish because that's what he was. Innocent people were killed just because he cared more about his vengeance than anything else, another thing he admits. The gods were dicks, but Kratos is also reason the gods became full-on evil since Kratos was the one that opened Pandora's box to fight Ares, which released the evils that infected the gods. He finally learned that he couldn't just blame them for everything and that he was to blame as well.
TitanGT66 In one of the cut scenes it says clearly that he was destined to kill his father Zeus, as was Zeus destined to survive and kill his own father: Kronos. It was a prophecy, it was the same with Baldur he was destined to die that's why Freya was obsessed with the idea of protecting him from all harm.
I can sympathize with Baldur. I had my prefrontal cortex turned off for most of my life because of my parents. This completely closed the door for me for experiencing human contact and relationships.
This really was the perfect way to end the struggle between Kratos and Baldur. And I absolutely love the story-writing for Baldur's character, how he's exactly the way Kratos used to be, which is why Kratos knows the necessity of ending the cycle of violence. He knows Baldur wouldn't just stop at Freya, and that anger of his would wash over the world itself, as his own once did. I actually kind of want to use the God of War games in the classroom, to show how beautifully a character's growth and development can be presented, and how themes repeat themselves over time and even across cultural mythologies.
*I accidentally cut a part of Mimir stating he needs his other eye to open the door to Jotunheim and Brok/Sindri saying that his other eye may be in the statue of Thor which the World Serpent swallowed. Yup... that's what I get for editing late when i'm exhausted... Sorry about that!*
WOW! Everytime this game gets to a deep part of the story, I am BLOWN AWAY. This whole episode was SO much fun and so tense and emotional! I legitimately almost lost it 😂! Just soooo well done!
*READ AFTER WATCHING*
I truly felt like there were so many layers to pull back during this whole episode. We get to see this amazing bond between Kratos and Atreus and it honestly makes me so emotional to see how far they've come together. Kratos being so closed off and strict in the beginning and Atreus just being young and wreckless. Santa Monica Studios did SO well in making this father and son bond feel real that it sheds light on what it would feel like to be a parent to even me who has no experience or others who don't either. It really makes you realize how far a parent would go to protect their child and why. They also show this through Freya's pain and unconditional love. She is willing to give her life to her child who has clearly lost humanity just to see him live. I still feel bad that Baldurs life was more than a little bit destroyed but, Kratos gave him a choice to be better and he refused in the end (he also hurt the World Serpent and you know how I feel about that!😜). It's interesting to me that in the very last moments of his life he acknowledged and felt the snow.. like the only way he could ever have been happy in the end is by dieing and truly feeling what it feels like to lose it all in that moment. I'd love to see everyones thoughts on this episode! So GOOD. I can't wait for the final journey and what it has in store! Sorry for the paragraph but, I couldn't help myself!
Marz when this playthough is over, can you play god of war 3 remastered ps4? So you can see kratos past
Marz I read the whole paragraph; could possibly be a PHD Thesis about how games would effect people’s way of thinking. I see what you did there
For me, it was Danielle's performance during that scene. (Freya.) Got smoke in my eye. >.> Remember when Atreus was sick, she told Kratos that the runes foretold a needless death for her baby. So, she was only trying to protect him, as a mother would. So tragic.
The part with the snow has a deeper meaning, but you will find that out soon. Great video!
Please play god of war 3 remastered
Baldur: *Experiences happiness for once*
Freya: Nooooo!!
Alucard 😂😭💀
@Cooper lol .. they're all the same aren't they 😤
@Cooper was joking bro
It's so funny, the World Serpent sounds all epic and thunderous but all he's really saying is "yeah man it's probably still in my stomach. You're welcome to check." 😂
Turtle Kosea Why do I hear this in korgs voice from marvel Thor 🤣
Lmao bro you ruined it for me
It's another of the inversions/subversions of Norse mythology that this game often makes. In myth Jormungandr is the most terrible of monsters, but here he's a chill dude who just happens to be a really, really big snake. ;-)
@Crab in A Top Hat This is a great short-form analysis of the series mythology. Tyr is usually a minor god, but here he is the most beloved, and significant for his travels and compassion. The Jotuns are seen as warlike beastly giant-barbarians, to be fought and defeated - here they are a people, just wanting to be left alone. The Aesir's deeds and tasks are seen as heroic and legendary - but here, they are the acts of a toxic family of petty, sociopathic bullies. What a beauteous take on the old, well-tread grounds of Norse myth.
Big snake's actually a really extroverted and talkative being. Idk why he seems so cute
Always felt bad for Baldur. Imagine living over 100 years without being able to feel literally anything. That would drive anyone insane.
TitanGT66 -- True. A couple of differences in this case, though. CIPA sufferers can't experience pain, heat, or cold. Baldur couldn't experience any sensation: taste, smell, touch. No pleasure from food, drink, sex. CIPA also affects people from birth, so that's what they consider normal. Baldur had normal feelings, but then had them taken away. So he knew very well what he was missing.
Exactly. Every day he had to think about his favorite things that he'll never be able to do again. This means he also had to keep his distance from other gods most of the time because he obviously wouldn't wanna be near them while they're enjoying things he can't. What would you even do with yourself for so many years like that, it's the worst curse ever.
@@TitanGT66 I think the length of how long he was cursed made him even crazier. In the mythology I don't think he was like that for very long. He probably wouldn't forgive her because she knew the whole time what could have cured him. She lied to him to his face.
@@lovesnesh6688 Nope...Freya put that spell on him since birth to mainly protect him from Thor ..Its just been 100 years Baldur has been looking for a cure
Tim's Witan during the scene in Hel he had said something like “feasting, women it’s all gone” and then he told her to take it back. It sounds like he was able to experience those things before she cursed him.
Remember when Atreus killed Modi? Kratos had told him, "He is beaten. Not worth killing." Now Atreus said almost the same thing to his father. Reversing those roles shows how much Atreus has grown.
Kratos wants Atreus to be better than how he was growing up.
She’s to slow to figure that
well well well how the turntables
If baldur lived he woudlve been called a coward in asgard because he has a cost of something when they fell out of the serpents mouth
The irony of Baldur being a "horrible person," making the wrong choices, obsessed with revenge... is that Kratos used to be the same way. He followed the path of rage and hatred, killing anyone who got in his way, guilty or innocent. In the end he got his vengeance, but it cost him everyone and everything that ever mattered to him.
I've a feeling Kratos's late Norse wife had a big hand in changing him. Their story is one I'd love to see told one day.
Also the reason why he is white, is because of the ashes of his former wife and child from Sparta he murdered, is cursed to his skin.
Daniel Dickson I agree about Faye being a huge reason for his change. The way he speaks of her with such respect and admiration, the look of sadness on his face at the beginning(before cutting down the tree and when he's gathering her ashes) I feel like she taught him a lot about tempering his rage, maybe even kicking his ass since he said she was a great warrior.
Suzaku oh..its almost... Its almost like you people dont know how kratos was always like this and that you didnt play the previous games! Wow. Im so surprised! He didnt want to sacrifice Pandora for his own revenge and went even madder when she died as she was one of the last things left he cared for and she reminded him of his daughter Calliope. He sacrificed all his lust for revenge and all of his weapons and power just to see Calliope in the elysian fields. But to stop Persephone whose plan was gonna destroy the world, he sacrifices him being with his daughter forever to save humanity and in doing so he regains all of his power, weapons and lust for revenge.
The woman had nothing to do with him being how he is. He is just being more carefull so he wont lose another child. He is being so carefull that he was alone by himself hunting the majority of the time avoiding both faye and atreus until faye's death. He wouldnt even kill wild animals unless it was for food, defending only from wolves until they would just get too tired and give up (comic book).
Now its just in your face so casuals can go "omg! kratos is sooo different and more complicated now" while its totally inaccurate.
kato093 nah... I have played all the games and I know he wasn't a rage fueled monster 100% of the time. But he sure was quick to anger and murder more than he is in the new game. I liked his character in the previous games and find it really annoying how most game journalists selectively remember the past games.
I do believe that after losing everything at the end of 3, and probably not wanting to live anyone even though he couldn't die, Faye gave him a reason to continue AND temper his rage. Regardless of the good moments he had.. he still has anger management issues. Lol
Dam kato no need to be pretentious about it but thats a cool bit of knowledge about why he wasnt there very much so thanks for that.
I laughed when she thought the World Serpent was dead. Thor couldn't even beat him.
true
In Norse Mythology, Thor and the Serpent kill each other at Ragnarok.
Gareth Nicol WOMEN
Johnny Shore what? 😂
I beleve that Thor will kill world serpent and survive. Kratos will be one to kill Thor and Thor to Kill Kratos in my theory
34:43 this line is actually a call back to God of War 2, Zeus actually says this line to Kratos after he attempts to kill Kratos, in reference to the cycle of offspring killing their parents. (The same way Kratos kills Zeus)
I was just about to say that
It is????? You are not the only to beat the old games and get the references.
A bit less self-serving than when Zeus said it though.
Thats exactly what i thought the moment he said it. "The cycle must ends here". It shows how much Kratos has grown from the original games.
Balder is coming back to life just like kratos haha
Baldur is the most savage character ever. I know you hate him, but you gotta admit he was a great villain.
If balder is this savage what about Thor and Odin I can’t wait for god of war 5 it’s going to be exciting
@@majedmohmed7868 who said there will be one?
@@ceaselessdischarge1026 There is going to be one no doubt about it. Definetly on the PS5.
@@ceaselessdischarge1026 don't you think so? If you don't, then go to the bed in god of war as you beat the game with BOI to take some rest and you'll see the surprise.
If you've done that already, then why don't you think so?
he was the stupidest villain ever, but very well written
I can sort of understand one aspect of Baldur's anger. Watch all of Freya and Baldur's interactions (here and the memories in Hel) and you'll notice something. Freya never apologizes to him. She makes excuses and justifications for what she did but never says "I'm sorry." Hearing that may not have reduced Baldur's desire to kill her but her finally taking ownership of her actions might've meant something, even for a moment.
yeah it wouldve been nice of her to apologize but she had a very specific reason to keep baldur alive forever and it wasnt just because he was her son. Ragnarok begins with the death of baldur. Notice how he says "snow" right before he dies. thats the catalyst for the end of the 9 realms. Just like the giant freya was controlling, when he died he let a dying breath that froze everything. Baldur let out a dying breath that will bring about the apocalypse. Kratos even says it to a pyschotic Atreus when he kills Magni that there are consequences to killing a god. I mean, kratos kind of had to kill baldur but it was a bad move. shows that he hasnt quite learned from his past mistakes. The next game is gonna be crazy and itll be interesting to see all of these story lines play out.
She wasn't sorry. Thats why she didnt say it.
Freya has to accept that a big part of what Baldur became, and what led to his death, was her fault. If she can't the cycle of vengeance will just go on.
She didn't do it for Balder's sake. She did it for her own. That's why she never says sorry.
She’s a reflection of Kratos and how he treated his son. He never apologized, made excuses, never explained himself, and never took responsibility for his mistakes. Seeing Baldur in his blood lust, and Freya make her flawed decisions allowed Kratos to examine himself objectively and “end the cycle.”
Good and bad are not so simple, there is no black and white. Baldur has been through a lot, he's not just a straight up bad guy. If you feel nothing for hundreds of years, can you imagine what you would become? He's done bad things in the game, but it's not so simple. Look at Kratos, he was pretty much the same. Even Joel did some horrible things in TLOU. Perspective is very important, if we were playing this game from Baldur's perspective, we wouldn't call him a horrible person. Don't get me wrong though, he's definitely not decent by any means. But I love storytelling like this, this is brilliant writing, I love when characters are not your typical good and bad characters in games, movies or shows and actually have depth to them, shows how mature as a writer you are, because that's how real life is. Everyone may seem good to you IRL, but there's no telling what all those people actually think and what all those people would do in harsh conditions.
Oh yes, I totally agree but, I think in the end Kratos gave him the choice to forgive/let go and Baldur continued on the path of vengence and maybe in Kratos' eyes, knowing where that leads someone and how many people will be harmed wasn't worth letting Baldur live. A lot of depth in this storytelling. It's fantastic.
I agree with that too! Baldur brought that on himself.
You mean like kratos?
Marz there’s also the fact that regardless of whether or not Freya survived, Baldur would still have come after Kratos and Atreus, forcing them to kill him in self defense. He had his orders after all. Really it was just a sucky situation all around.
kratos is the real villian not baldur.
The way I see Baldur is that he is what Atreus could have potentially became, and Freya is the parent (just like Kratos) that has made this mistake and it has cost her. She tries to protect her son without any regard to the consequences and it backfires horribly. Kratos also tries to protect his son, (although it's from the emotional and mental trauma he associates with godhood) by hiding the truth from him, as opposed to Freya trying to protect Baldur physically because of a prophecy foretelling his needless death. Kratos basically ALMOST makes the same mistake Freya makes, and Atreus ALMOST becomes this egotistical psychopath that doesn't care about anything, just like Baldur. In my eyes, the Freya and Baldur story is the same as Kratos and Atreus's story, just taken to its most extreme conclusion.
Thats a really interesting thought and I can actually see that! So many similarities
When Atreus said to Modi, "But we're gods, we can do whatever we want," that was exactly the attitude of Modi and the other Aesir. Ironically, Atreus was on the path to becoming just like them.
If Atreus is to be taken seriously, he is Loki and Loki was the mastermind behind Baldur’s death in Norse Mythology. Awesome twist in the tale.
Atrues even looks like Baldr.
Baldur's last line is so simple yet great, "snow". In the prophecies, Ragnarök(end of the world/end of the gods) starts with Baldur's death immediately followed by Fimbulwinter, a time where snow falls for three straight years. His line can be construed as him finally feeling snow on his skin after a hundred years and also realizing the prophecy is fulfilling itself and all his fellow gods are going to die soon.
"I know how you feel." Poor choice of words freya.
Hahaha for reaaal
Jacksepticeye said the same thing!
odin robbed freya of everything, she kinda does knows what it feels like. just saying
@@monspeet4287 bruh the “poor choice of words” was obviously because Baldur couldn’t feel anything, not because Freya didn’t experience tragedy
@@monspeet4287 Except that Baldur literally couldn’t feel anything.
Like, she could at least enjoy an apple or some shit. He can’t.
Freya : "no no.. No... My dear sweet boy"
Marz : "he is not sweet"
He is also not a boy.
Kratos was much worse than baldur in previous god of wars tbh
Which is why Kratos knew better
Which is why Kratos killed Baldur. In his words, "the cycle ends here" Meaning he has learned from his mistakes.
Jason Stark yeah, just because he is the main character in the game protecting his kid he gets a pass. kratos to me has always been the real villian of the series.
If it makes a difference, Kratos would probably agree with you. He's clearly guilty and ashamed over his past in this game, which is why he hides it from Atreus for so long. Part of his journey is learning that he has a second chance to do something good by doing right by his son, but it takes Kratos a long time to accept that the only way to keep Atreus from following his former dark path is to tell him everything.
Jason Stark chill your sacks there Jason 😂😂 you sound like a little girl 💀
Baldur's death will cause ragnarok. This is why Freya made him immortal
bingo. seem a lot of people missed this very key and very important info. it was more than just the love of her son. Freya was a god but she was one of the good ones. she was willing to let baldur kill her in order to protect the 9 realms from destruction. unfortunately for her and baldur, they crossed paths with kratos lol
Yeah, we can notice that no snow drops until the moment Balder dies...
Reclusive Sloth maybe because they are adapting to the game??? Is Kratos a actually son of Zeus? Of course not
they already said frigg and freya are the same person -_-
Reclusive Sloth Mimir said that when you are exploring on a boat frigg is freya
Yeah, that's common with the final fight with Baldur. There were so many particle effects in play that it's usually missed that Spartan Rage mode is still active.
Yeah, I feel kinda sad I missed that beat down moment in Rage mode. I really couldn't tell it was still on until it was gone. :(
Hey, you and the boy still laid him out like champs.
@@Marzz it's ok. You did well in first fight with Baldy (Baldur) at the beginning of the game
It was so funny that you were so angry about that world serpent "death" xD
Baldur tried to kill you so many times but when he hurt big snake its time to die lol
I never thought Baldur killed the World Serpent. Only Thor is strong enough to do that. Even Baldur said he had "hurt" the "big snake," not killed it. I believe Baldur sucker-punched the Serpent, who feared fighting back would hurt Atreus and Kratos inside its stomach.
Daniel Dickson yeah , i never said he died. I was just laughing because marz thought he did
@@squidwardtortellini6577 Yeah, lol. It was specially funny to me too, since I don't think Kratos wouldn't be nearly as pissed as Marz was. Makes you think Baldur did it specially to bring forth Marz anger hahahaha
This is one of the rare occasions where I agree with at least part of Kratos' usual attitude. An excess of empathy is very dangerous and allowing yourself to feel sorry for people who wrong you will leave you vulnerable. If you must shed tears, shed them for Baldur's victims. Reach out a hand to people like him and they'll show you what a bleeding heart really is.
A cold heart loves nobody, but a soft heart loves too freely. Both are equally dangerous.
If Baldur didn't have that curse, none of this would have happened.
I think you did well in the battle against Baldur :) be sure to go back home after you finish the story!
Atreus was sooooooo badass in this fight, making some Legolas plays. The teamwork was god-tier. All the shit they went through together, the ups and downs, the lessons they learned from each other, culminating in this fight. They were going full Goku/Gohan on Baldur. Especially loved the part where they were alternating hits on Baldur, and Atreus put in that roundhouse kick. Oof. So good.
15:47 I’ve never seen Kratos speak like this. Trying to avoid conflict. Trying to truly help. It shows how much he’s changed for the better.
World Serpent is very Adorable. He is just chilling and sleeping, gazing at the beautiful views around him😁👍
Damn your almost done. This has been amazing to watch u connect with the characters. Cant wait for u to finish the game!! 😁😁😁😁😁
If you remember when Kratos and Atreus fought the sons of Thor
Kratos told Atreus the same thing. They are beaten. Not a threat.
Kratos trying to teach his son to be better than he was and now Atreus has come full circle in telling his father the same thing
*Only meaning modi* He is beaten not worth killing* Get it right ffs
The World Serpent is fine. Baldur just stunned him. Jormungandr has to survive to fight in Ragnarok.
In the last episode can you try fighting one of the valkary's? Think we would enjoy that haha
Freya : My dear sweet boy!!!
Marz : He is not sweet😂😂
Hey Marz, just wanted to let you know I started watching you play this a few months ago, and truly enjoyed every moment! You are a very entertaining let's player, love your commentary, your curiosity and your reactions. I'll definitely be watching your future content, cheers!
12:36
The way he just popped out of the snow is so cute
31:00 "This is brutal." Haha you should've seen Zeus and Hercules back in God of War 3 :'D
Mostly Zeus. Like, jesus christ.
@@TheBadassTonberry or Helios
@@Christian22365 Yeah. Poor sod.
Atreus "dad its dark here, we need some light"
Kratos "well i do have one thing....."
shouldve seen when he ripped hermes legs off
Have you been playing through the side missions? You learn a good amount of important information about the characters through Mimir while you're traveling by boat. There's some stuff that he tells you about Freya that really fleshes out her character more and explains some of her actions.
Was watching your reactions more than the gameplay...and it was immensly satisfying. Your appreciation of the story and characters and how they relate to each other is so...relatable i was right there with you lol.
GodDAMN I love this game.
Kratos started Fimbulwinter by killing Baldur, which wasn't supposed to happy so soon. But, killing him made an early start for Ragnarök.
I feel bad for baldur his personality is amazing reminds me of tai lung!
This game was amazing, and I especially love how in sync Kratos and Boi are at 26:55
Loved the part when the Boi called in the world serpent to kick that giants A$$. But really the whole scene was written to perfection!
Lovin the play Chris your awesome!
34:56 snow lands on his cheek then melts when he dies. games are art.
this game is just so good, but what makes it even better for me is that im Icelandic. So seeing these words and having it all happen in the mythology ive grown up learning about is amazing.
Ps. Im watching the final battle now and freya keeps conjuring these enemies from the giants hand and she does it by saying "þrífa" which means clean... dont really get it lol
Perhaps the word has other meanings or implications that give it an appropriate context?
Dope this connects us as Germanics. Im Dutch and we call her Vrija and her son Balder. Wednesday (Woensdag) is named after Wodan (Odin) and Thursday (Donderdag aka Thunderday) is named after Donar (Thor)
Great episode. I finished this part more than a month ago, so it was interesting to see it and appreciate it even more than being caught up in the moment, trying to kick Baldur's head in. I love how the more Freya tried to protect Baldur, the more Kratos treated Atreus like a fellow soldier. He literally sent the kid ahead of him to stop Baldur from getting to Freya!
Even knowing the story of Baldur, Freya, and the mistletoe (best told by Druth in Hellblade, and Alan More in Top Ten), Santa Monica made this event their own.
I come back and watch gow ending every now and then. Love the performance and the passion of every cast
i get chills when that grim badass theme plays and he says "i killed many who were deserving.....and many who were not....."
I sorta teared up a second when I thought you were gonna cry. lol
This was a fun episode. Look forward to the next.
You really got to hand it to Santa Monica Studios. It's one thing to make an incredible memorable and involving game like this but when you stick the landing and crush the ending, that's when you really nailed it!
You were so freaked out for the Serpent during the fight xD I love your reactions to the game, also make sure you go back to your home after the game, just making sure you don't forget :D
Hi Marz ! Thanks for more GoW gameplay !
‘Is that Odin?’ 😂😂😂 that’s cute
Great job Marz on the fight with Baldur. That fight scene was amazing! Cannot wait till you get to the end!
14:09 I actually laughed at that part because it looked like Friday The 13th
34:35 the old kratos would of let him kill her I’m glad Kratos changed his ways
The old Kratos would kill Baldur
Brandon Treviño But he would of let him kill freya first
20:53 Baldur: I FEEL
Marz: You like that?!
lulz
Man kratos really flexed his working and healthy relationship with his son on Freya like the whole time they were having a heart felt conversation she was there like “Bruh”
Bless your heart for sticking to the end of this game, hope you continue to tie up loose ends.
You're playstyle and reactions are very relatable.
Happy gaming and hope for more fun times ahead.
Any chance of finishing farcry 5 and horizon zero dawn?
Also...any chance for a reaction video to the last of us 2 trailer?
18:55 That's Thamur, the stonemason that got killed by Thor. She's using his corpse as a puppet by her magic.
That armor looks LEGIT!
JaimeHabets I think it's the incomplete valkyrie armour.
Geralt of Rivia it said at the beginning the world serpent armor
Don't forget to go to sleep once you are done with the game :P
DV I wanted to let her figure it out on her own haha.
Instructions not clear, dick got stuck in toaster. Am I right or am I right, lads? ;))
Hedoespie Shut up you freak.
@@whenyounutinhermouthandshe it's a meme
You totally missed the point if you think Baulder is just a bad guy... (Also this doesn't really follow Norse myth character of Baulder, not really)
I don't think he's just a bad guy. I actually say in my pinned thread I feel bad for him because his life has been destroyed by Freya's blindness in thinking she was protecting him. I felt bad for him in the episode where we were in Helheim also. He's been through something that totally scarred him but, in the end, he punched Atreus and fought everything in his path to get his revenge on Freya (even innocents) which I think would not have sufficed him in the end. Kratos gave him the choice to let it go and Baldur chose not to.
Marz thats what kratos did. Except he succeeded and in doing so destroyed the world. Now by killing baldur he brought ragnarok destroying yet another world.
Cant wait to see baldur lead ragnarok
.oooohhh... Holy hel!! I just realized... Why odin trapped the valkyries and made hel go to hell. In norse mythology Ragnarok starts with baldr's death and with baldr having dreams of his death. So he goes to odin and frigg and tell them about the dreams. So odin goes to hel and sees that everything was ready for baldr's arrival so frigg calls upon her everything of the world like plants, animals, rocks, elements, making them vow that nothing will ever hurt baldr. But the blind hodor gets tricked by loki into shooting mistletoe arrows and kills baldur. Mistletoe which was deemed safe and not a danger by frigg (frigg in the game is freya.unclear but a possibility in norse mythology). Could it be that odin in gow knew that baldr was going to die and to postpone ragnarok he trapped the valkyries so when baldr died he would never reach the city of hel so cant start ragnarok? But... Baldr died fighting... He must have went to valhalla not hel. Maybe thats why ragnarok began a hundred years early before atreus has a chance to grow up and cause ragnarok the right way? Omg... So many questions.. Might be overthinking. (Read everything as mimir since i wrote it with his way of speaking in my mind lol).
Actually it does. The Prose Edda at any rate, which is what the game is mostly based on. The Prose Edda is basically the "real" Norse Myth. It basically states the mythos we got are romanticized versions of what really happened. That the Aesir are actually the true enemy and that the gods are nothing but monsters.
Well 3 points, one, if Baldur ended up as a bad guy, Kratos was 1 million times worst. In this game Kratos got to redeem himself somewhat, but Baldur will never have this chance. Two, myths have various versions but the most famous one is that his death was an accident not purposely killed like this. The game developers force the narrative to fit Kratos in. Finally, yes Odin could be behind all this. So, the *real* bad guy is Odin... Just things to think about...
Mythic Baldur was almost the antithesis of the one appearing here. In fact many of the attributes of Tyr in this game were Baldur's in the old poems. But the change really suited the tragedy the devs wanted Baldur to embody.
But in myth almost all the Norse gods were reprehensible by modern standards. They were violent, ruthless, and frequently deceitful and treacherous. What mattered in their stories was that they won, by whatever means necessary. Yet they were doomed to ultimate failure.
The real reason kratos killed baldur is because if he killed freya baldur would never stop doing bad things and he would never let go of his hate and rage
woo god of war from marz
34:51 "oh my gone"😂😂
Love you marz 🤘😛
You haven't had a breakdown until you've played this on the hardest difficulty
Nah it was easy
This was probably my favorite episode from your GOW gameplays. This is why I love your channel so much. You get so deeply invested in the characters and the story that you have real emotional responses when things happen. I thought you did fine in the last battle. You don't know how many people don't know to match the weapon to his power set or just die a bunch. I knew you'd get a kick out of the world serpent stuff too. Looking forward to the final episode.
18:50 "Is that supposed to be Odin?" I was laughing my ass off so hard!" JK, girl. That just gave me a good laugh.
That was some low iq logic. holy shit
Yes, he's cured. In mythology, at Baldr's birth Freya asked every man, creature, being and plant in exitence to spare her son, to swear an oath not to harm him, but forgot to ask the mistletoe. And so, Loki one day decides to get up to mischief, as he does in mythology, and got Baldr killed. Kind of like Boy did on accident :)
I might be the only one who understands Baldur lol All for revenge 😠
Homer Jay Simpson you need help son.
BumFluffer1999 Why? He said he understands. Not that he sympathises with Baldur.
*He does need help but only for using bad emotes. The rest of you need real help for being as sensitive as feminists to the point that you are actually mad at Baldur.
+BumFluffer1999 You don't feel any pity for Baldur at all? The dude became indestructible at the cost of all feeling taken away from him. He couldn't taste food or drinks. He couldn't feel any wind hitting his body nor the snow around him. He couldn't even have sex properly. You're telling me you wouldn't go crazy after being stuck like that for a century?
he literally said "All for revenge 😠", he does sympathize with Baldur
Another well done job marz narration is brilliant
One of the only girlstreamers that I respected, really love ur emotion here.
The sound guys did a really good job on that snap/crunch Baldur's neck makes
"Is that... Supposed to be Odin?"
Yes goodbye and have a nice day
👋
Quite idiot to leace a video because of that
the Freya actress is on Point
Very well done, the emotion of how a Mother would feel, regardless of almost being killed by her son and the hatred for the one that killed him
She was Spectacular
35:10 that was my exact statement lol
The giant was Thamur, freya used her magic to control his corpse. He's the stone mason guy you get the chisel from
Close your eyes listen and let your imagination guide you
27:15
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agreed, Cinematics are great, i recently finnished the game , and shed a tear as Kratos promotes the ankle biter with a Mature responsibility, fist bump and good vids btw
"is that Odin?"
did she even play the game? Thats the dead giant. There was an entire level centered around him
Woman, the dead giant can’t surely be confused with Odin 😂😂
Honestly Baldur's hate for his mother was justified. And so was her being angry at Kratos after he killed him. She might aswell have killed him when she cast the spell on him, just imagine not being able to feel anything, not the food or even the breeze on your face. And that's for over a 100 years. Anyone would go insane, not to mention Odin would've brainwashed him with lies. He's not really evil. Thor on the other hand...
There are some momments in this game that made me put the controller down and just applaud, alone in my room there I was applauding a television screen, thats how amazing this game is.
You’re minutes away from the ending! And don’t forget to return home when you’re done ;)
That boss fight sequence is just incredible. One of the most powerful and breathtaking scene from my gamer's, and competing with the best scene i could see in a movie.
If you really want to blame someone, it’s Odin. He is responsible for every bad thing in this game.
Also, Kratos should’ve just killed Freya right then and there.
Atreus would be dead if it weren't for Freya. Kratos wouldn't dare kill her unless she were able to attack him. That would ruin the whole lesson he was trying to teach Atreus and just feel pointless.
brok in every goddamn walkthrough :
"so uhh about that alchemist....."
Almost at the end now!
Balder was an “horrible person” but only through being a tragic figure who, through his mothers love and desire to protect him, was tortured for over a century. He was unable to feel anything, taste anything, experience anything of worth.
Thet was a fate worse than death; the very thing from which she was trying to protect him.
17:37
Most beautiful moment by far, so far
When Jormungandr came to save Atreus and Kratos.. I lost it! Damn near broke my controller in the process!!! That moment was EPIC! And for me, ranks right up there in the top 5 most excellent scenes from any game!!!!
Do you think when this playthough is over, can you play god of war 3 remastered ps4? So you can see kratos past
DV yea but she would need a ps2 so 3 would be fine because they some up the previous games in some flash backs
yeah but GOW 1 is one of the most boring ones. 3 is the best one, story- and combat-wise.
Jafar Noroozi Agreed
No it's not lol. Look at it's Metacritic score. Exactly like GoW4's. It might be boring to YOU, but alot of people say it's their favourite and the best one (mine is obviously GoW4). And you cannot deny the impact it made, the innovation it brought and the amazing Greek Tragedy it told.
vlinnstone 69 she doesn’t have a ps2 so it’d be fine to just play go3 because it’s remastered for the ps4
saying that this game is epic is just an understatement
The red runes across the back of Baldr's shoulders read 'KURSED', or cursed, in the old nordic rune alphabet. Nice touch.
Murder is not justified because someone is bad, an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
Quoting Markus, I like it! xD
How very human ;)
And ignoring someones crimes makes you just as much of a murderer as the bad person doing all the killing and hurting of others lives
Being a bitch doesn't make you better. Being better is standing up for what's right, and that includes eliminating evil people who do nothing but sow hatred and death.
That quote is cute and all, but hardly practical in the real world when there are people who don't care about your philosphy, they only care about getting what they want and will kill you without batting an "Eye" as you would like to say.
Alex Boneless did you play detroit recently? :)
SmartAss4123 Thank you for your creative criticism have a good day.
Yeah, that last battle with Baldur is so epic. I've seen it multiple times, but it still gives me goosebumps.
You keep saying Baldur is a horrible person but he’s basically Kratos from the original trilogy. Also, did he really deserve to die? Remember what Kratos said to Atreus earlier, there are always consequences to killing a God.
Kratos was actually worse. Baldur at least had a reason for his insanity which wasn't his fault. Kratos was just a selfish moron lol.
TitanGT66 Not likely, Kratos was tricked by Ares and it cost him his family, the gods took his brother and told that he is dead where the reality was that he was tortured for decades untill Kratos saves him but shortly die, also Zeus, his father, put a curse on his mother where she would transform into a monster if she reveal his name, which she did and Kratos was forced to kill her, and also Zeus killed him where it was the final straw that put him in a war against Zeus. In conclusion, the gods, especially Zeus and Ares, are the main reason that drove Kratos to wage a war against them and ended the greek pantheon.
Yet Kratos was the one who called on Ares in the first place. Nobody tricked or forced him into doing that, his own bloodthirsty ambition is what cost him everything. He even admits that in this game "I made a deal with a god that cost me my soul." I called Kratos selfish because that's what he was. Innocent people were killed just because he cared more about his vengeance than anything else, another thing he admits. The gods were dicks, but Kratos is also reason the gods became full-on evil since Kratos was the one that opened Pandora's box to fight Ares, which released the evils that infected the gods. He finally learned that he couldn't just blame them for everything and that he was to blame as well.
TitanGT66 In one of the cut scenes it says clearly that he was destined to kill his father Zeus, as was Zeus destined to survive and kill his own father: Kronos. It was a prophecy, it was the same with Baldur he was destined to die that's why Freya was obsessed with the idea of protecting him from all harm.
I can sympathize with Baldur. I had my prefrontal cortex turned off for most of my life because of my parents. This completely closed the door for me for experiencing human contact and relationships.
you are so beautiful
Jeez your reactions to the events are so wholesome and jarring. I felt sad that you felt sad that a game character was hurt.
Your squandering of the Spartan Rage almost put me into a Spartan Rage. ^^
When Kratos said "The Cycle ends here" You can see Baldurs face going from anger to fear and realization. Awesome.
This really was the perfect way to end the struggle between Kratos and Baldur. And I absolutely love the story-writing for Baldur's character, how he's exactly the way Kratos used to be, which is why Kratos knows the necessity of ending the cycle of violence. He knows Baldur wouldn't just stop at Freya, and that anger of his would wash over the world itself, as his own once did. I actually kind of want to use the God of War games in the classroom, to show how beautifully a character's growth and development can be presented, and how themes repeat themselves over time and even across cultural mythologies.