May I suggest trying the USMC rifle qualification course. Give it a try with just the iron sights like we did in the 80s.. You will find it quite challenging. Thank you for sharing your content.
Been reading the Marine Corps Marksmanship handbook to learn how to use my AR15 better. Sadly I can't realistically try anything in it at the moment since I live in Crook county, Hellinois, but I look forward to utilizing the skills contained within when I move to Indiana next year.
@@dashcammer4322 Silly me I did it with and M16A1 with a simple Marine Sponsorship which lacked many of the finer comforts of home,, ended up with a new haircut :)......but still qualified expert. :)
Practice and practice some more! I remember being the armory Sargeant teaching air force personnel to hit 300 yard targets with open sights! Us army guys take it for granted. Knowing your weapon is 90%. My 6.5 PRC is (5×25x56mm scope) zeroed at 500 yards which allows me to strike 6' sheet metal targets at 2000 yards. I even amaze myself. In those cases it isn't about speed just consistency! Great training vid. More people can learn from these. Duplicate that sight picture!😊✌️👍🇺🇲
When in the Navy, some gunners mates took me to the range while they were qualifying, or in some cases re-qualifying. They assumed I didn't know crap about how to shoot since I was a Fire Control Tech (Missile Radar Tech). I think we were at the 100 or maybe 150 range shooting open sights on M60's. They got pissed when I was shooting as well as they were. LOL. I didn't tell them I grew up shooting with my dad. He took me to the junk yard when I was 6 with a 22lr, and moved on from there.
Wait! Hold on!! When I got into a fire fight, my weapon was on me!! Not on the floor waiting for me! 😅 but that is good training. We didn't have a mat on the floor either!! Knee pads and elbow pads are helpful!
@vicdiaz5180 I know... that's why I said it's good training. Before my unit and I went to Iraq, we trained like that, but we had our weapons on us, then we got on ground, suppress fire, get up move. That was our training. When we got into Iraq, it became a little different..
I think this would apply more to snipers waiting for a target. But the indexing and practice of how it should feel is good none the less. The doubles is the impressive thing to me.
@matthewriegner5180 nah, not this type of training. Snipers are sneaky and stealthy, hidden inside of a unit. The enemy doesn't even see a sniper. His weapon is even broken down, made to look like just another piece of equipment. This kind of training is for e-gressing out of vics under some fire and you see where the fire is coming from. It sucks when it's the real thing.
So when learning to shoot prone. My Drill Sergeant being Cavalry Scout, taught us process stand to prone then shoot. Mildly uncomfortable, but its basically learning to fall reliably. This drill here reminds me of similar process though with some steps not included sort of cutting process short. That said if you have rifle set up and observation like say hunting season. This probably is a very good drill to get good at. Not sure how useful it is otherwise. What I do like is he created a process that is not belly flopping onto the ground. I plan on giving it a try to smooth out what I was taught. What I am curious about is the shoulder process, seems like it moves rifle round a lot. I guess time to try it out to see. My range its a challenge to get freedom to do stuff like this unfortunately.
Idea is that with your thumb out of the way the rifle will recoil straight back and lead to better and more consistent follow through. More consistent follow through tends to lead to more accuracy. Watch most long range shooters and either their thumb will be to the side of a pistol grip or rested on top of a bolt action stock.
Ok, bipod and bagged? I give you the win but the weapon is waiting for you to mount and there. I watched a guy (SWAT shoot-off) flat out impress every shooter present. 100yrd run uphill, 10% Grade. Go prone and yes he had a bipod but we had a 10 second window to fire at 500. Rem 700, launched 2 (308 boat tail hollow points, Federal Match Grade) He nailed it! Betting started when he claimed he could do it again. I put my money on him. He did it.
"This one trick proven to shrink your prone times in half!" BTDT Worst was from friendly fire at night from guys with an M2 .50 BMG in the turret, open desert terrain. Tracers were flying past our faces and over our heads, with the ones you couldn't see in-between.
@@paulis7319 I knew I was going to die and everything went into slow motion, because I couldn't hit the ground fast enough even laden with Interceptor Body Armor and all my gear. We just laid down in the open as the rounds kept skimming by, and I got on my ICOM Radio to try to pull up someone who had comms with the adjacent unit to tell them to stop shooting in our direction. My CO told me to get off the net, stop taking up traffic.
This looks like a solution waiting for a problem, at least outside of some prs circle jerk. That red dot is useless in this situation and many others as well. Like he said "im keeping eyes on my target." Exactly. Then overlay the images as you look through the scope. Even a 1 MOA dot covers nearly half a 12 inch target at that distance.
Great video, quality and content. Keep up the grind brother. Anyways, this is why the scar 20s needs to stay reciprocal. When you are prone and out of ammunition, the charging handle will reciprocate back, thus letting the shooter know they are out of ammo. Saves time when in prone, all you need to do is look at the charging handle and change the mag. It has a purpose. It wasn’t til all you RUclips wuss boys starting howling about your thumbs 👍 then fn changes a good thing. Thanks bro
@@SandorWetterhan what do you think of yours? I’ve been a little disappointed in glass clarity in mine for the money..msrp of $2.5k(illuminated)..personally I prefer the brightness/clarity/contrast of the Nightforce glass..plus the feature set is better with NF for equal money or less
@pilotincommand85 I haven't had time to take mine out yet. Picked it up about 2 weeks ago for my Daniel Defense Ar10. It was definitely pricey. Hopefully I get a chance to take it out next weekend
Alright, I see this video as internet fodder. The bi pod and you are already in position. When you hear the beep you drop like a gazelle and let it rip. Get out of yer truck, drop the bi pod, acquire the target and wait for the impact.
Have to walk before he can run. If he doesn't have the basics getting behind the gun, then throw in all variables of uneven ground etc. it's only going to add to the list of things than can be affecting his shot he has to diagnose. He gets this down, then add in setting up rifle from a carry position, braking distance on his truck, being hung up on his seat belt, if he has to go from his handgun to his rifle when he exits, if Cobra Commander is sending the Dreadnoks after him, etc.
What's the twist rate for 70grain at 500yards? That's gonna be an instable Trans bullet at that range.... I am really curious on that twist rate to keep it stable...
5.56 is usually 1/7 twist, which is more than plenty for 70gr. 1/8 and even 1/9 work fine with it. I've been shooting 69gr, 75gr, and 77gr for decades now, mostly through 1/7 & 1/8.
*_"instable Trans bullet at that range....."_* You cant be serious!!!! That exact Nosler ammo he's using out of an 18" barrel (what the rifle likely has from the looks of it and from what DD's MK12 rifles are listed to have) will be at minimum, 2650fps MV (but more likely at or into low 2700's) and even with the worst case of 2650, that bullet will be supersonic out to about 975 yards and the typically use Mach 1.2 ( or about 1340fps) for the start of "transonic" is at about 800yards (give or take 25 yards or so depending on atmospherics and elevation), so not hardly transonic at 500. And just so that you know where I'm coming from with regards to those MV numbers, I have recently shot the exact Nosler ammo he's using from a 16" barrel and was getting an average MV of 2640fps and hence the reason I say 2650 at minimum. *EDIT:* oh and if that barrel matches the regular barrel DD uses for their MK12's, then its a 1:7 twist but really, for 500 and still being well in supersonic range at that point, anything 9 and faster will be perfectly fine.
My platoon just got new dmrs. Hk 110a1s. I've never used them before. Never held them before. Sniper section was playing with them before recon got there hands on them so I knew it was zeroed but I didn't know what distance to. Figured they used the mil dot reticle as intended because why wouldn't they. My first shot was out out to 400m. First round impact. Shot out to 700m first round impacts no spotter. After that I could no longer hear the steel and a spotter was required to confirm hits. Long story short, it's absolutely possible because that's its intended use. It seems you don't know what you're talking about.
whatta impractical drill lmao. this kind of scenario would never occur for any civilian, even in a shtf situation. just having a DMR positioned perfectly with a bipod, set up directly at the target ... LMAO this does nothing. no wonder this only has 30k views lol
Anyone named Buck Doyle automatically gets my respect. Great video, and beautiful rifle!
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Dude is awesome!
That’s a cowboy name if I ever heard one!
No BS, I am envious of you ability to get to fire weapons of all configurations
May I suggest trying the USMC rifle qualification course. Give it a try with just the iron sights like we did in the 80s.. You will find it quite challenging. Thank you for sharing your content.
No you must use various sponsors' pricey optics, bipod, rifle etc etc. No stock M16A2 with iron sights and an issued sling. That's too hard! 8^D
Been reading the Marine Corps Marksmanship handbook to learn how to use my AR15 better. Sadly I can't realistically try anything in it at the moment since I live in Crook county, Hellinois, but I look forward to utilizing the skills contained within when I move to Indiana next year.
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@@dashcammer4322 Silly me I did it with and M16A1 with a simple Marine Sponsorship which lacked many of the finer comforts of home,, ended up with a new haircut :)......but still qualified expert. :)
Practice and practice some more! I remember being the armory Sargeant teaching air force personnel to hit 300 yard targets with open sights! Us army guys take it for granted. Knowing your weapon is 90%. My 6.5 PRC is (5×25x56mm scope) zeroed at 500 yards which allows me to strike 6' sheet metal targets at 2000 yards. I even amaze myself. In those cases it isn't about speed just consistency! Great training vid. More people can learn from these. Duplicate that sight picture!😊✌️👍🇺🇲
When in the Navy, some gunners mates took me to the range while they were qualifying, or in some cases re-qualifying. They assumed I didn't know crap about how to shoot since I was a Fire Control Tech (Missile Radar Tech). I think we were at the 100 or maybe 150 range shooting open sights on M60's. They got pissed when I was shooting as well as they were. LOL. I didn't tell them I grew up shooting with my dad. He took me to the junk yard when I was 6 with a 22lr, and moved on from there.
Wait! Hold on!! When I got into a fire fight, my weapon was on me!! Not on the floor waiting for me! 😅 but that is good training. We didn't have a mat on the floor either!! Knee pads and elbow pads are helpful!
Bro relax, this is just a demonstration. Obviously in the real world there won’t be no mat.
@vicdiaz5180 I know... that's why I said it's good training. Before my unit and I went to Iraq, we trained like that, but we had our weapons on us, then we got on ground, suppress fire, get up move.
That was our training. When we got into Iraq, it became a little different..
@@nitromax5150I thought the same thing. I’m gonna take the skills taught in the video but practice dropping with the rifle.
I think this would apply more to snipers waiting for a target. But the indexing and practice of how it should feel is good none the less.
The doubles is the impressive thing to me.
@matthewriegner5180 nah, not this type of training. Snipers are sneaky and stealthy, hidden inside of a unit. The enemy doesn't even see a sniper. His weapon is even broken down, made to look like just another piece of equipment.
This kind of training is for e-gressing out of vics under some fire and you see where the fire is coming from. It sucks when it's the real thing.
Great video, always informative!
Reminds me of Basic Rifle Marksmanship in the early 90’s but we used iron sights… I remember being in shock when I hit that 300m target
I really hope to see more long range vids with Buck . I swear these vids are always the best .
Good info
Really? It hasn't even played yet and it's good? One minute into it and you know this? What is the secret?
@@JSFGuy it’s called ff
@@rocksteady13 really? Just like that?
Hell yes Colion!
Keep up the good training 👍🏻
The brass that hit the camera at 6:58 was a rad moment
Music queieter, please.
Marksmanship Matters classes teaches how to get into the prone position from standing up. Great classes, I recommend them.
Love your videos, but the back round music is too loud. I would like to hear what's being said.
Background music while someone talking is not a good choice
Dude fr I'm just trying to gain some knowledge from buck, music should be half as loud as voices
Go from standing to prone rifle in hand - the pre-staging takes all the challenge out of it
That’s quite the back-stop😍
Thanks for showing real world scenario
Your sarcasm is apt.
How often do you go see Dr.Long range or DR.Lr for short?
That was awesome.
Loving these skills and drills
So when learning to shoot prone. My Drill Sergeant being Cavalry Scout, taught us process stand to prone then shoot. Mildly uncomfortable, but its basically learning to fall reliably. This drill here reminds me of similar process though with some steps not included sort of cutting process short.
That said if you have rifle set up and observation like say hunting season. This probably is a very good drill to get good at. Not sure how useful it is otherwise.
What I do like is he created a process that is not belly flopping onto the ground. I plan on giving it a try to smooth out what I was taught. What I am curious about is the shoulder process, seems like it moves rifle round a lot. I guess time to try it out to see. My range its a challenge to get freedom to do stuff like this unfortunately.
Awesomevideo.i was 7 min in without knowing it.
Nice training drill
Let's go with it.
Thanks Colion
What ear protection are you using in this video?
Can you do a video on why you don't grip the rifle using your thumb?
Not sure how I missed that.
Idea is that with your thumb out of the way the rifle will recoil straight back and lead to better and more consistent follow through. More consistent follow through tends to lead to more accuracy. Watch most long range shooters and either their thumb will be to the side of a pistol grip or rested on top of a bolt action stock.
@@gerardboles1124 Interesting.
Oh its some hip new way the kids do it, got it. Thanks @@gerardboles1124
What kinda stock do you have on the mk12⁉️
Does this move to standing with the rifle and going prone?
Totally awesome! Could have done without the background noise, would be much better.
Totally agree with you. The background noise is so annoying and uncivilized.
Ok, bipod and bagged? I give you the win but the weapon is waiting for you to mount and there. I watched a guy (SWAT shoot-off) flat out impress every shooter present.
100yrd run uphill, 10% Grade. Go prone and yes he had a bipod but we had a 10 second window to fire at 500. Rem 700, launched 2 (308 boat tail hollow points, Federal Match Grade) He nailed it!
Betting started when he claimed he could do it again. I put my money on him. He did it.
I saw a guy shoot a human head size target while upside down from a rooftop at a downward angle in 2011. 😎
You’re not wrapping thumb around the pistol grip is that on purpose or is that preference?
Where was the incoming fire? Small arms? Mortar rounds?
Bad ass video 🤙🏼
Helpful!
Nice video. 😊
Whoa, whoa, whoa, were you walking on your ‘knees’ with your weapon at the ready? I thought Colion, you trained as you would to Be Ready?
Any update on the brace ban?
*Fastest way to get in the prone position:*
Get shot at.
"This one trick proven to shrink your prone times in half!" BTDT
Worst was from friendly fire at night from guys with an M2 .50 BMG in the turret, open desert terrain. Tracers were flying past our faces and over our heads, with the ones you couldn't see in-between.
@@LRRPFco52 😮that had to be scary af!
@@paulis7319 I knew I was going to die and everything went into slow motion, because I couldn't hit the ground fast enough even laden with Interceptor Body Armor and all my gear. We just laid down in the open as the rounds kept skimming by, and I got on my ICOM Radio to try to pull up someone who had comms with the adjacent unit to tell them to stop shooting in our direction. My CO told me to get off the net, stop taking up traffic.
US Marine here. Nice pad lol.
Commenting for the algorithm
@colion noir you make a video on what you can and cant do with a potential stalker dont know if you did one like that yet
Depends a lot on which state, and how sensible local LE and prosecutors are.
Oh didn't see you there... let me talk about my guns 😂
But if you watch the video, he’s not talking about his guns. You need to drink a little bit more of that salty Haterade 👍🏽
@@vicdiaz5180 was a joke
In my uniform days, you would be on your feet, no bipod, and no optics, and you won't know exactly when you have to drop and shoot.
Howdy , for the rhythm
Colion, you've got to get rid of that background crap you're playing. Thanks for your channel 👍
I could t even hear a lot of the important dialog. Arg. 😬
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You gotta crawl before you can walk.
Now, start from your feet. Then pick up your rifle and start again.
Then I'll be impressed.
I want to see you train long range with nickolas Irving “the reaper “
That's the safest backdrop I've ever seen😂
Love your vids, man. But, please cut that awful distracting background elevator music
I like the video but I personally find the background music to be distracting from what is actually being taught. Just my opinion.
Can’t even hear much of what is being said. 🤦♂️
leupold mk5 2-10 is the scope bro
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The foreground music and those notification noises way too loud… distracting.
Content was good… I stopped at 6 minutes due to music.
Music while the instructor speaks was silly
This looks like a solution waiting for a problem, at least outside of some prs circle jerk. That red dot is useless in this situation and many others as well. Like he said "im keeping eyes on my target." Exactly. Then overlay the images as you look through the scope. Even a 1 MOA dot covers nearly half a 12 inch target at that distance.
Great video, quality and content. Keep up the grind brother. Anyways, this is why the scar 20s needs to stay reciprocal. When you are prone and out of ammunition, the charging handle will reciprocate back, thus letting the shooter know they are out of ammo. Saves time when in prone, all you need to do is look at the charging handle and change the mag. It has a purpose. It wasn’t til all you RUclips wuss boys starting howling about your thumbs 👍 then fn changes a good thing. Thanks bro
The music over lay is so irritating and disruptive. I Can hardly understand what's being said?
Colion Remove the annoying music in the background! Buck Doyle is speaking/teaching.
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That definitely looked like a 2-10 mark5 not a 3-18
I was thinking the same. I have the 3×18 and that was definitely not it
@@SandorWetterhan what do you think of yours? I’ve been a little disappointed in glass clarity in mine for the money..msrp of $2.5k(illuminated)..personally I prefer the brightness/clarity/contrast of the Nightforce glass..plus the feature set is better with NF for equal money or less
@pilotincommand85 I haven't had time to take mine out yet. Picked it up about 2 weeks ago for my Daniel Defense Ar10. It was definitely pricey. Hopefully I get a chance to take it out next weekend
What the heck is that bloody background noise.. I have great difficulty hearing you guys talking
Yeah, but it's "edgy!"
Alright, I see this video as internet fodder. The bi pod and you are already in position. When you hear the beep you drop like a gazelle and let it rip.
Get out of yer truck, drop the bi pod, acquire the target and wait for the impact.
Have to walk before he can run. If he doesn't have the basics getting behind the gun, then throw in all variables of uneven ground etc. it's only going to add to the list of things than can be affecting his shot he has to diagnose. He gets this down, then add in setting up rifle from a carry position, braking distance on his truck, being hung up on his seat belt, if he has to go from his handgun to his rifle when he exits, if Cobra Commander is sending the Dreadnoks after him, etc.
You can waste a lot of time doing scenario-based training, or focus on some compartmentalized fundamentals and get value in trigger time.
Can you go over your grip style? Why don't you wrap your thumb?
This instructor has a YT channel?
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I'm getting messages from a secondary profile of your content.
I’ll show you how to shoot I take my Mark 18 out there shoot 500 yards
What's the twist rate for 70grain at 500yards?
That's gonna be an instable Trans bullet at that range....
I am really curious on that twist rate to keep it stable...
5.56 is usually 1/7 twist, which is more than plenty for 70gr. 1/8 and even 1/9 work fine with it. I've been shooting 69gr, 75gr, and 77gr for decades now, mostly through 1/7 & 1/8.
*_"instable Trans bullet at that range....."_*
You cant be serious!!!! That exact Nosler ammo he's using out of an 18" barrel (what the rifle likely has from the looks of it and from what DD's MK12 rifles are listed to have) will be at minimum, 2650fps MV (but more likely at or into low 2700's) and even with the worst case of 2650, that bullet will be supersonic out to about 975 yards and the typically use Mach 1.2 ( or about 1340fps) for the start of "transonic" is at about 800yards (give or take 25 yards or so depending on atmospherics and elevation), so not hardly transonic at 500.
And just so that you know where I'm coming from with regards to those MV numbers, I have recently shot the exact Nosler ammo he's using from a 16" barrel and was getting an average MV of 2640fps and hence the reason I say 2650 at minimum.
*EDIT:* oh and if that barrel matches the regular barrel DD uses for their MK12's, then its a 1:7 twist but really, for 500 and still being well in supersonic range at that point, anything 9 and faster will be perfectly fine.
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I would have liked to enjoy the video, l could not stand the music.
Not his best choice in almost always well done videos
Why add music? It’s not necessary, it adds nothing to the context, it only serves as a desecration and overpowers the dialog.
The rifle and scope alone are $4,500.
You must be super rich, I can’t even afford to shoot anymore much less spend 1000’s on guns. Got priced out of my favorite hobby.
Why the stupid music that makes it harder to understand the voices?
Needless to say, your weapon HAS to be zeroed at that distance, or you're just missing quickly...
Mil reticle and a known distance....holdovers are your friend.
@@scottrousseau297 again, impossible to pull off, if you don't know your zero and rifle.... yes?
@@JohnTBlock if you have a mildot sighted at 100 yards, you can use the dots if you know the distance.
My platoon just got new dmrs. Hk 110a1s. I've never used them before. Never held them before. Sniper section was playing with them before recon got there hands on them so I knew it was zeroed but I didn't know what distance to. Figured they used the mil dot reticle as intended because why wouldn't they. My first shot was out out to 400m. First round impact. Shot out to 700m first round impacts no spotter. After that I could no longer hear the steel and a spotter was required to confirm hits.
Long story short, it's absolutely possible because that's its intended use. It seems you don't know what you're talking about.
So, advocating for a binary? No? Too bad, i'm keeping that as my take away.
whatta impractical drill lmao.
this kind of scenario would never occur for any civilian, even in a shtf situation.
just having a DMR positioned perfectly with a bipod, set up directly at the target ... LMAO
this does nothing. no wonder this only has 30k views lol
Colin "Mass Shooter Tutor" Noir
Was that a Geissele Super Dynamic trigger on that rifle? Awesome trigger if it was. I have it too.
The music
Was not smart